Film Theory: Shrek's Donkey was SECRETLY a Human! (Shrek Movie)

[@blinxtheredone6844]

Lets also keep in mind that Donkey fakes being unable to talk in the first Shrek movie... so he absolutely could have done the same thing to get off the island.

[@zacharykerns7834]

In that case, how many talking donkeys are just roaming around????

[@anthonyfart6528]

I feel like my mind can’t handle this anymore

[@daikatarokamegawa542]

@@zacharykerns7834 Realistically speaking? Not that many. Remember, these are spoiled rotten children, used to get away with anything they do, and facing no consequences ever. Bullies also learn to play the victim as their defence mechanism, so quietly hiding is not something many of them would even think of. Victims, such as Donkey, on the other hand, know to hide and wait for an opportunity, which is a pretty logical thing to do in his situation.

[@shanti4853]

Triple 6 likes can’t ruin

[@aisuru6273]

get rekt I just made the likes go from 666 to 667

[@laserching2547]

Director: Lets just make a talking donkey Film Theory:

[@asemui8629]

Lol

[@Nugcon]

Producers: Donkey doesn't have a backstory Matpat: "Fine, I'll do it myself"

[@yeetus_reetus_deeleetus]

Author: the donkey speaker English teacher: what the heck is a donkey

[@orbiter277]

My teachers in a sentence

[@breakthecode4634]

I could swear I remember donkey saying he was turned into one...

[@JohnNoirSmith]

Are you seriously not going to bring up the whole "I can't feel my toes...I don't have any toes!!!" which Donkey says in the first movie here?

[@briansaleemberry2686]

Lol ikr

[@JohnNoirSmith]

@@joseferdinandguarino1488 I reckon it is too. Seems logical. I was pondering more about why it wasn't mentioned as a clue as to how he'd once been a boy, because how come he'd otherwise ever known of the feeling of having toes

[@madebybroovy]

Or his *crazy trip* since *COLLEGE*

[@briansaleemberry2686]

@@madebybroovy oof

[@ItsLelingTime]

Oh and one thing. Why does he turn into a horse in Shrek 2 and not a boy?

[@martinedwards2123]

You're forgetting something MatPat. The Pinocchio from Shrek is based on the one from the book not the Disney film. In the book, he's not left with a donkey tail and ears before becoming a real boy. Rather, he becomes a full donkey but then gets changed back into his full puppet before having several more adventures. with this in mind, it's still possible that Shrek's Pinocchio has already been to Pleasure Island.

[@shmoovincrab7464]

That's what I was thinking 🤔 like maybe before he saved geppetto from the whale?

[@Paidnotspaid420]

Also if the original grimms fairy tale “the donkey” was the donkey from shrek that would mean the movie was following the brothers grimm lore but it obviously doesn’t since pinocchio dies in the book but not in shrek so that’s another reason why it cant be that one

[@martinedwards2123]

@@Paidnotspaid420 Pinocchio doesn't di in the book.

[@Paidnotspaid420]

@@martinedwards2123 ? I couldve sworn he drowned or was hung or something

[@andrewtime2994]

@@Paidnotspaid420 Pinocchio was not from the brothers Grimm but from an Italian writer. It wasn't even a folk tale but a magazine serial. The Shrek writers were not being sticklers about these things.

[@veeistiredasf]

Creators of Shrek: W-we just wanted a talking donkey... MatPat: *NO*

[@Pootie_Tan]

I farted 💨 then 💩 came out instead. I have diarrhea today ;(

[@vanessang7210]

K-pop fan lol so true 😂

[@foxyfox6184]

just like with the cat from rick and morty XD

[@galaxyweirdo1018]

@@Pootie_Tan TOO MUCH INFORMATION TMI DUDE TMI

[@___DeVille___]

666 likes!

[@anothercarttogo1819]

When there was debate over a Puss In Boots movie, or a Donkey movie, the directors admitted that Donkey's backstory was gonna be quite depressing.

[@TorraShinjiro17]

You know I think that just proves this theory more truthful

[@hatcellucard599]

His home island was taken over by the mafia and when he made a real friend who could control time, the friend refused to use those powers to free the island. He later on stole the artefacts that his friend used to control time, turned the whole planet into his lava castle and then got beat up by that friend and all the artefacts were taken back by the friend

[@RuteL]

@@hatcellucard599 Uh...what?

[@RuteL]

@Samantha Craft Thank you! I was totally lost, but also kinda curious as to where that was even from. xD

[@hatcellucard599]

Samantha Craft I’m surprised anyone got the reference

[@cantiloup580]

I know this is really late, and you’ve already proved the theory but donkey also says: “I can’t feel my toes, wait I don’t have toes” in the movie. Which implies that he knows what having toes is like.

[@goofyregulartrue]

Good addition to the information

[@thevampirematrix816]

600th like :)

[@QuickDraw-e7k]

@@thevampirematrix816 good job no one cares

[@thevampirematrix816]

@@QuickDraw-e7k I know no one cares, that's why I said it XD

[@rosikun]

@@QuickDraw-e7k I care

[@sagesamuelson7221]

As a trauma survivor I will say even after four years some of the people closest to me still don't know it happened because it is terrifying to say something - I don't blame him

[@veryfancyfruit]

Nobody should blame any trauma survivor

[@twintyara6330]

Take care

[@macestarlet]

See that's completely understandable in your case, but in this situation Donkey is condemning potentially hundreds of children by not speaking up

[@sagesamuelson7221]

But in my not speaking up somebody else did get hurt. She was strong enough to say something, I wish I had been as strong as she was. No matter what it's a double edged sword - if you don't say anything somebody else could get hurt, if you do say something- then everybody knows and then that's all they know

[@lifeinnirvana4810]

We also have to remember that if donkey is a treasure island boy than he would have suddenly gone from a normal (in my opinon) 13 year old kid to likely being stuck on the streets being treated by humans, animals, and fairytale beings as a donkey. No idea how to get home and constantly scared you'll be found out and brought back. Let's not forget that not only does trauma change how you mature but so does suddenly not having and being made to grow up without parental guidance. Donkey isn't exactly mature. He gets the basics but he's very childlike. I wouldn't be surprised if he's stunted and repressing all the trauma to live in a "no I've always been a talking doneky" mindset.

[@noahcalder4279]

Maybe he did tell and shut it all down, that's why pinnochio is still just a toy.

[@yuiayano3365]

OOHH YAS A PARALLEL UNIVERSEEEE

[@shirdellanderson5464]

I like this Theory better

[@ThePkmnYPerson]

If that's the case, Donkey deserved a prequel movie way more than Puss in Boots did.

[@yuiayano3365]

@@ThePkmnYPerson AGREED

[@amandalorian7694]

That is why they had a price for when the old woman brings him to be sold. They had to have known about talking donkeys to have a price to pay for one. So perhaps, donkey wasn't the first talking donkey to escape from pleasure island or he became known because he had it shut down.

[@Grace-og2wq]

I’ve never realized how creepy donkeys face is until it’s staring into my soul

[@marabasilone3642]

He has the eyes of a broken man

[@geekycraft]

Ikr

[@lettucemaster6832]

Lol so true

[@ameliaredman4564]

Im'ma not sleep tonight

[@Csc23]

Mara Basilone aww

[@To_Ruby_Love_GENIE]

the old woman giving donkey away tells him to speak and he doesn’t, he plays dumb. This would explain how he got away from pleasure island and got sold to that woman even though he can talk and he has no clothes 🤷🏼‍♀️ I worded that badly I think but it’s late and I can’t be bothered to change it xx

[@bobertorobweeto6836]

Yet you can be bothered to write "I worded that badly I think but it’s late and I can’t be bothered to change it xx" instead of writing it nicely?

[@dizzy_human]

@@bobertorobweeto6836 why is that important to you

[@korridarkheart2342]

Ruby Gaughran bruh Thankyou I was screaming this! I was like,” HE DIDNT ESCAPE! Donkey is smart he pretended not to talk so he could get off the island!” Gosh Thankyou! Glad I’m not the only one!

[@To_Ruby_Love_GENIE]

Robbie MacGregor yes, because I didn’t want to go back and check it, I have dyslexia and can’t read well so it’s just easier to write more than go back and make other stuff make sense

[@vinnie906]

@@bobertorobweeto6836 you don't need to be an asshole just because you have the capability to do so.

[@Draconic.]

In defense of Donkey, it is also possible that he already acted against Pleasure Island. Maybe the reason Pinocchio never went there is that Donkey already reported it to the authorities and had it shut down.

[@dangdao8068]

Pretty sure donkey was not brave enough to tell somebody (mostly because his trauma) but if he did, I feel like the people will treat him like he’s idiot or doesn’t believe him since he donkey

[@zakosist]

I kinda hope that's the case. Although knowing it is fiction anyway. Even if he seems too much of a coward to talk about it normally, there is a chance he could still push himself to do it when there is enough of a reason and motivation behind. If he didnt mention it at all, but could remember enough to give important detail, he IS a coward and a bad person regardless of trauma. Sometimes you just have to do what you're uncomfortable with and take conversations you're scared to take, I have done it. Especially when there are so many others who would suffer WAY more from being abused every single day, while he only suffers on occasion. If he genuinely cant remember enough to give information, then he cant really be blamed for that. But that is if he genuinely cant

[@jadalynnunger5819]

He was a child when it happened, he probably is so traumatised that he can't even think of his past. Plus, Pinnocio himself wasn't a bad kid, just caught up. Donkey could be a good kid in a bad place with heavy trauma.

[@bogwinkled]

that’s really sad to think about

[@dragonboyxyz2308]

like he could be that one good kid being peer pressured and bullied into coming to what he might’ve thought was shady/sketchy only for him to unfortunately be horrifically right about it all and it might explain why he doesn’t tell Shrek he watched those probably bigger and stronger and meaner also be turned to donkeys powerless to their captors and wants to protect Shrek and his other friends by keeping them far away from those who hurt him so no one he cares for ends up like him

[@ahhhhhh124]

More like, he just doesnt want to look back at what happened, doesnt want to get involved and decides its better to just leave what happened in treasure island in treasure island.

[@bellaknightR597]

its so sad

[@bellaknightR597]

@@ahhhhhh124 firstly it Pleasure Island and secondly of course he wants to leave it behind and try to forget going through such horrific body horror that left him horribly traumatized not mention the fact that he's stuck being a donkey for the rest of his life, I'm sure he wants to keep it from happening to other kids but doesn't know how to stop it and is too scared and traumatized to talk about it to anyone

[@SchaffrillasProductions]

Thanks so much for the shoutout! (and for pronouncing my name right!)

[@Higongeous]

Schaffrillas Productions bruh do shrek 4 review

[@shrikey9192]

Hi shacshafriola

[@matthewmiles6799]

That's how you say it lol

[@whatthefridge1o1]

I was SHOOK when I saw your pfp like sometimes I'm like "oh cool people know this youtuber" but like I consider you as more obscure so like yea I was shook

[@pmiles363]

All hail the mighty Mr Shiny

[@kayleighdaniels5827]

Are we not gonna talk about how in the first movie when the old lady tried to sell him he pretended that he couldn’t talk? Maybe that was because he thought that someone would send him back to pleasure Island if they knew

[@SnickersEatsCookies]

Or he actually didnt want to be “magic” And be put in a cage with the other fairytale characters

[@rosyowl0391]

That was my first thought when I first saw this video, It actually stung my heart because it made so much sense. On pleasure island the donkeys that can still talk are kept on the island until they fully transform, so donkey would have learned that if he wanted to get off the island he would have to remain silent. It makes sense that he would think the guards would send him back if he spoke. He has an idea what certain types of people may or may not associated with the island. As far as he's concerned well dressed people could be connected to the island as the guy running it was a rich man while people like shrek and the old lady aren't which is why he's comfortable talking around shrek. I'm not entirley sure about fiona as she is a royal and he's comfortable speaking around her, but even still the idea that he refrains from talking to avoid going back is pretty solid, and maybe after the first movie since he was friends with shrek and literally went everywhere with him he would feel safer and more comfortable talking around people. this was way longer than it needed to be but i digress.

[@bellaknightR597]

He was probably too scared and traumatized to talk about it meaning he could stop it from happening to other kids

[@northernnugget]

tf is pleasure island

[@bellaknightR597]

@@northernnugget it what the place is called in Pinnochio

[@tgbluewolf]

Concerning whether Donkey alerted anyone about Pleasure Island, consider the fact that in all the time Donkey was with Shrek, Pinocchio never disappeared or turned into a donkey. Maybe Donkey couldn't shut the whole operation down but saved who he could.

[@sarahberkner]

I'm wondering if he would even know where the island is?

[@nekolu]

They definitely know, Stromboli is there in the poison apple tavern.

[@kandybinator6787]

He might've been their first experiment, and thats why he's not helping other children, he might not even know there are more than him

[@yxw6528]

true and he's grown into an "adult" (because of eddie murphy voicing him) while pinocchio is still a kid

[@TheRealWoopSlap]

Man these classic movies are dark

[@matthewdoherty803]

Matpat: naw naw

[@1e9l7s6]

Yes...thank you for not RUINING my childhood by having Donky be EVIL....thank you

[@klunk4683]

But he was given that donkey pants nickname by the other boys

[@mindyauron]

Donkey: I think I need a hug Me: *cries at the idea this theory actually sounds plausible*

[@muffmuffn1167]

No he doesn't

[@DannyGamerXD48]

Muff Muffn Do you need a hug to for that saltiness?

[@mindyauron]

@@muffmuffn1167 you need a hug though

[@vaco9183]

Shrek good,. I love donkey, donkey Donny what pausable mean

[@amandaberry7822]

667th like, yes

[@godot8694]

That's actually a great idea for Shrek 5. Shrek and donkey go on an adventure to stop the enterprise at pleasure island

[@thejokestersquad3686]

I like the way this man thinks

[@grantonator3884]

Is anyone else picturing Pleasure Island burning to the ground in dragonfire?

[@God-ch8lq]

i think donkey had PTSD from pleasure island, he hides this with a cheerful facade, making him a candidate to r/im14andthisisdeep posts

[@God-ch8lq]

it could be an action film

[@FlixWithBricks]

Disney: no no I don’t I will

[@jackiedoherty1716]

That's a bold take on Donkey being a bad person for not stepping up to expose the kidnapping ring. He was a kid at the time when he escaped. The whole ordeal was clearly traumatizing and going to the authorities could have easily backfired on him and got him caught by the very people he escaped from. He instead decided it was best to put all that behind him, and proceeded to repress these troubling memories from his past.

[@blainesutliff2648]

MatPat: "Where have we ever seen a talking donkey?" Me, immediately: "Pinocchio...."

[@ayamisdelicious3600]

@Ayan Mao rude much.

[@btonyh5878]

@@ayamisdelicious3600 no

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

Me: "The Bremen Town Musicians..."

[@indigo3032]

HEY, thats Illegal to be said.

[@Mael_Str0M]

Yup

[@37shadowwolf15]

Not to mention the very first scene we meet donkey hes being turned in/sold by the old woman. And upon being turned in he HID THE FACT HE COULD TALK. That was probably how he escaped pleasure island. By pretending he was fully donkey and staying mute out of fear. Then was bought by the old lady who later turned him in when magical creatures became outlawed. Thats probably also why he didnt mention anything. He was afterall a slave and the old lady didnt seem to be the compassionate type and probably wouldnt listen of care if hed said anything. Plus people tend to not take doney that seriously he probably feels powerless and just wants to forget the whole thing happened. Even though theoretically he could out pleasure island i cant blame him for keeping his mouth shut. Hes been traumatized and just wants to forget.

[@aud2d2]

And since they're selling all the magical creatures, he could be scared of being caught and turned in if he went to anyone for help

[@ronyorobio7096]

I thought of that way of him escaping Pleasure Island. That makes sense since he is a slave at the begining of Shrek.

[@nadeezn]

Yanno I kinda always just figured he was one of the kids who got turned into donkeys in Pinocchio for all these reasons :,) Oh nevermind I didn't finish the video. At least I was right lol

[@mattevans4377]

Would be cool if a Shrek film used this, and made their own version of the story, but with Shrek saving everyone.

[@dionettaeon]

He also said in Shrek 2 that he was traded for some magic beans, so apparently he was in "Jack and the Beanstalk" at one point, and "Old McDonald" in Shrek Forever After. But there is one small problem with your theory: "keeping his mouth shut...learned that staying quiet is safe", this about a character for whom being a chatterbox is a well-known character trait. Traumatized and refusing to talk about that event, sure, but clearly "it's getting him to shut up that's the trick".

[@crisis4415]

Okay but does that mean Grimm’s donkey was just a real dedicated furry?

[@Tyrin448]

😂 Yes

[@LooDoesStuff]

r/cursedcomments

[@Deneberus]

Or at some point, someone saw an opportunity, killed/kidnapped the king's son, and replaced him in a suit to gain the thrones

[@braylin5003]

Furries exist from legendary times

[@dresdenwarlock7978]

That's JUST a furry, a GRIMM Furry. Thanks for reading.

[@LadyGwynn]

I'd like to point out that Donkey never escaped from Pleasure Island... yes, he perhaps hid the fact that he could still talk and was shipped out prematurely, but he was still bound in an abusive life of servitude at the beginning of the first Shrek movie. (Remember, the old woman threatened to beat him if he didn't stop pleading with her, and again when he refused to talk to the guards.) He doesn't actually escape his trauma until he gets sprinkled with Tink's fairy dust. A lifetime of slavery doesn't offer much opportunity to expose the truth about Pleasure Island. Plus as many others have said, once he was finally free, it would have been hard for him to talk about what he went through. Let's not victim-shame here.

[@quangamershyguyyz7166]

Nobody is victim shaming. It’s just a theory that was never confirmed at any point.

[@GlitcherBot]

That makes sense actually

[@iwuthere.7198]

"Donkey is secretly a human" Yeah and his name is Eddie Murphy

[@chaosmastermind]

I thought the exact same thing. LOL

[@untamedartist1861]

That's the same thing I said

[@darth_meme_lord2980]

Oh my god you just made my day today Iwut Here

[@storymaster21]

doesnt that mean that pixar took a young black boy, turned him into a donkey, and then sold him into slavery in a salt mine?

[@darkamora5123]

@@storymaster21 DreamWorks not Pixar.

[@samfoord943]

Technically donkey could've already had tried to tell people about, it just didn't happen in the movies because its irrelevant to them.

[@noodle9149]

Also sadly sometimes victims don't report stuff like abuse or you know turning children into donkeys trafficking because they just want to forget.

[@zanzaklaus912]

He has a dragon gf, he could perfectly just go there with her and destroy the place, freeing all the kids

[@Orto-jj2di]

@@zanzaklaus912 good idea so hopefully he one day will if he already didn't behind our backs

[@irvdante]

It's also possible he tried to tell people but just either nobody believed him or cared. We see him with that old lady who tries to sell him off, Donkey probably kept telling her and she eventually got fed up with hearing about it... just like people in real life.

[@Orto-jj2di]

@@irvdante indeed maybe

[@Theycallmetomu]

What if it's an alternate timeline where Donkey already shutdown the smuggling ring, and therefore Pinnochio never got the character development that came from that event and that's why Pinnochio is still in form 2?

[@nanakojo6441]

I think in this story Pinnochio hadn't gotten to the smuggling ring

[@TheGangsterFrog]

Blew my mind

[@therandomgirl5590]

Hi! Can you sub to me? I wanna get to 270 subs. Ps. I subbed to you

[@amazingslab]

@@therandomgirl5590 no

[@OhayoPippy]

Theycallmetomu This makes so much sense

[@THEROOFDE]

MatPat, I love your analysis saying how donkey is from the Grim brothers story or from Pleasure Island (and I wouldn’t want to ruin it) but if you noticed in Shrek Forever After; when Donkey and the witches are taking Shrek to Rumpelstiltskin, Donkey says to Shrek "I am not going back to wok for Old MacDonald" revealing Donkeys backstory and Fairytale/Nursery Rhyme he’s actually from. Old MacDonald Had A Farm.

[@KDluvR23]

I don't agree with that because, for one, it's not like it was ever mentioned in the other movies. The 4th movie was meant to show what life would have been like had Shrek not been there. Donkey never met Shrek, but he was about to be caught and sold off to Lord Farquad. In this, it would show that likely, since Shrek wasn't there to scare the soldiers away, Donkey likely hit his head on the tree Shrek was putting warning signs up on instead of running into Shrek, and knocked himself out, getting himself caught in the end, and lord Farquad forced him to work for old Mcdonald. If he was always a donkey on the old McDonald's farm, he wouldn't have known what it was like to have toes or wear clothes, both things he has said in the movies. Plus, the donkey in the old McDonalds rhyme makes a donkey sound, it doesn't talk, but Donkey learned to control that same sound.

[@writelyY67777]

Maybe Donkey got sold to Old McDonald but then escaped and that’s why he doesn’t want to work for him anymore

[@yousef9063]

The clips from pinnochio of Alexander crying for his mum is so sad

[@rebeccaanderson4933]

Yeah sad

[@lepetitmort1150]

i totally forgot how disturbing that movie was. i always felt uneasy watching that kid scream and turn into a donkey...

[@leo.solosv]

@@lepetitmort1150 for real

[@onebullet2689]

@@lepetitmort1150 yeah it was really creepy and quite scary for me when I was younger

[@itzmewolfie1826]

i know right i feel so bad for thoose children

[@Bob-ys3hs]

*MatPat makes a theory* My ChildHood: *Ight imma head out*

[@farmuryt4996]

Lol

[@allforonetv7176]

This theory had holes because when Donkey drunk the potion thingy why did he turn into a horse instead a human

[@tadhgknight3484]

All For One TV The whole point of the ‘Happily ever after potion’ is that it doesn’t truly make you happy, because a potion can’t do that

[@juanvenegas5253]

He was a human with a horse fetish.... Wait

[@sexilatinoboi69]

That meme is so overused

[@logicandcrazy]

I didn't realize donkey's eyes were so freaky until now...

[@turtleykam6182]

logicandcrazy in one of the clips he has no pupils 😱

[@laytonpro8655]

Me neither

[@angelwings6019]

Same with Farquadds eyes :)

[@SybilRoyal]

Hi

[@pynkskiii]

exactly but personally i think matpat just makes every childhood movie creepy as shit

[@melbell0865]

There’s just something missing from that theory though: in the second Shrek movie, when donkey drank the potion, he turned into a majestic stallion. Why didn’t the potion turn him back into a human? It’s called “Happily Ever After” potion with the added condition of “beauty divine”. If it truly was that, then shouldn’t donkey’s “happily ever after” be-according to your theory-turning back into a human?

[@Elhastezy888]

It's really too bad this comment wasn't made when the vid was uploaded because I think it wouldve been voted near the top I it had👍🏻

[@danilomancuso4681]

It turns in Who you want to be, probably he Is to traumatized to accept a human form

[@burn3627]

It’s not like an ogre is a deformed human, it’s a completely different species. So therefore whether donkey was originally human, him turning into a horse is just his personal preference.

[@epic_mario]

Like how Shrek has always been an ogre, but turned into a human, it wasn't his original form or anything, and if it just makes you beautiful, he would just be a handsome ogre.

[@lasercraft32]

I mean he fell in love with (and you know... had kids with) a literal DRAGON so I dunno maybe Donkey just has weird preferences on what a "Happily Ever After" is.

[@peppermink2200]

Matpat: this is it, everything connects. Video: *has 5 minutes left*

[@Enderia01]

Yeah, I was expecting a "but, wait a minute..." Coming up

[@madkirk7431]

"they're going to be suspicious that we're not trying to make our own characters" "just throw in a donkey, that'll throw them off"

[@briansaleemberry2686]

Might be true lol

[@kristaherrin4527]

But Matt was like :No there is a meaning 🤣

[@undertalejunkie]

Am I the only one who finds Donkey's eyes a bit unsettling when viewed up close?

[@commanderdodo1806]

The image of him smiling that they used is just really creepy imo

[@TyphonNZ]

Especially when they were edited to be really red

[@ethanbuttimer6438]

Lotsa uncanny valley in shrek

[@lri828]

it’s creepy cuz donkey eyes dont go there 🐴 😖

[@jacquelinemn5718]

Omg me so weird

[@ProGamerAndSussyBaka]

13:23 I think he WAS sold out! An old lady purchased him and when she was done, she wanted to sell him to farquad (sorry if I spelled wrong)

[@sofe6451]

The donkey scene in Pinocchio is so sad. I had nightmares because of that movie..

[@supershepherd]

Same

[@compherut]

Sof E ya that movie is pretty fucked up for a kids movie and it scared the hell out of me

[@Xot3789]

What scene?

[@desmondferguson7550]

Ashley Pineda the donkey scene

[@jackson5802]

I don't think I've ever seen the full duration of the movie, but the parts that I have retained are still enough to give a teenager nightmares.

[@shoukry1616]

Man... Hearing the donkeys in Pinocchio screaming “Mommy” is just very depressing and sad it makes my heart drop. I know the donkeys misbehaved but still they’re still little kids 😢

[@quirkofchance924]

same I never watched the movie and that hit too hard for me

[@kizoomtite4779]

It's like the ultimate cautionary tale

[@shoukry1616]

It just makes me very sad and the fact that they forget to talk and can’t tell anyone what happend is just.. I just can’t handle it

[@kizoomtite4779]

@@shoukry1616 oof

[@LemonadeSandwich]

Mummy*

[@swagstergaming7548]

god you really dont realize how dark pinnochio is when your a child

[@Evancore-u6v]

because your distracted by "Wish Upon A Star" fantasy "nonsense"

[@elisabethdiaz8031]

I did man that movie scarred me

[@availanila]

@@elisabethdiaz8031 I refused to go to an amusement park after that forcing my parents to seek an alternative which so happened to be museums and that's how I got to my love of history 😂

[@alionlover40]

That was one very grim tale. Then again, that's life before Disney

[@generalkuros56]

Its about a creepy puppet coming to life with a nose that can turn into a sword if he lies enough he always kinda creeped me out (even if I never watched the movie)

[@Comiczzz]

I just always assumed he was a human turned donkey from the Pinocchio story

[@maitev.5511]

Finally some recognition for Schaffrillas, and from no less than Matpat :)

[@sam_the_kid_4220]

Bruh I didn’t not see that shout out of Schaffrillas coming

[@alexander_bone]

Shoutouts to Schaffrillas

[@thepaultato3243]

Camila S. Legit had to check if I was still watching a film theory video and it didn’t somehow skip to a schraffillas video lol

[@aitipsea3909]

Even tho most of us know him from ytp's

[@wafabasbous5654]

People : raiding area 51 Matpat: SHREK'S DONKEY IS SECRETLY A HUMAN.

[@jollyholly106]

It wasn't a raid

[@wafabasbous5654]

@@jollyholly106 Yeah.....

[@umyokyi1493]

It was jut people wearing costoms and showing up at the entence

[@nowone_bruh]

click leave

[@joestop2364]

Author: I want a cool donkey in my story for no reason English teachers:

[@briansaleemberry2686]

So true XD

[@galacticramen8032]

Joestop2 ikr?!

[@reversehq8806]

Lol congrats for 300+ likes

[@joestop2364]

@@reversehq8806 holy WHAT. last i checked this had 4 likes......

[@peppa5482]

yessir english teachers actually give me cancer

[@mareyt84]

Mattpat, you forgot to deep dive into the Bremen musicians! It's a story about animal friends, each of them have a backstory. HOWEVER THE DONKEY CAN SING AND WAS ABONDED BY THEIR OWNER. I'd like to see this theory with the Bremen musicans.

[@bryanf9573]

Also in shrek 4 when shrek goes back in time he find donkey literally being a slave. It wasn’t for a mine but it was for the witches I’m pretty sure so that might also be a clue as to where donkey came from

[@briansaleemberry2686]

Maybe the creators were like "The people who work there are witches, so let me turn them into one" XD

[@flameshot4606]

No he doesn’t travel back in time he is in the same time period. Donkey is a slave there because he never met Shrek. But yes he was a slave so that helps.

[@lacytaylor1501]

He probably pretended to be full transformed and was shipped off before eventually escaping whoever bought him and ending up with the old lady trying to sell him off.

[@tylerpurselley563]

Imagine if they made a movie about confronting pleasure island in the Shrek universe. I would definitely watch that

[@DivineChaos204]

It's like in ruins because of the boys

[@nathanieldiaz5254]

That should be the fifth movie

[@capncake8837]

@@DivineChaos204 I mean, the Coachman probably has his minions repair it after each boatload of boys comes to the island.

[@melkerahtagadatsoin-tsoin6016]

I had never even thought of this idea, but now I miss this movie that doesn't exist... Thank you 😥😭

[@TripWagstaff5213]

army of Far Far Away liberates pleasure island

[@tegandumpleton3360]

Hmmm. Does Donkey even know how to get back to Pleasure Island? This deserves some research! *1 research montage later* Okay, so this is what I got, without watching the whole two movies: The "law" apparently know something about Pleasure Island. Enough to scare Honest John. Whether they know about the donkey thing is another story. The boys get there first by coach, and then by boat, from a pretty secret looking dock. And it's all pretty young boys, no teens. When the donkeys stop talking, they get shipped out on another boat. There are a lot of boys on pleasure island, and a very small amount of donkeys that can still talk, so it must not take long for them to go full donkey. Which also begs the question... why can Donkey from Shrek still talk? Now Donkey from Shrek is an adult. And I believe donkeys take 2 years to get to "mating age". So let's suppose donkey ages at the same rate as a real donkey. So it could be anywhere from 1-2 years since Donkey was on pleasure island. He also couldn't just swim by himself. He wouldn't be able to make it without a boat. In all that time, Donkey has 1) not lost the ability to speak, 2) has not shown any interest in becoming human again, 3)is so FREAKING CHEERFUL! Sincerely cheerful, not the "laughing to hide the pain" cheerful. When he's upset, makes sure you know! In fact, talking too much is one of his big character traits. 4) proves that he knows his directions 5)obviously doesn't have amnesia about being human With this, I think I can spin another story here: Donkey is indeed special. He's one of the few pleasure island boys that never stopped talking. EVER. So in true Shrek fashion, the slavers on the island just sold him off out of pure annoyance. To a land far, FAR away (fairytale pun!) where he could never trace back to his original home. over that time, Donkey adopts his laid back personality (or always had it and that's what got him to P-Island in the first place) in order to cope. So the Donkey we see now is one that has given up trying to get home. Perhaps he tried a few times, and THAT'S why he knows how to get to Farquad's castle. He was searching for a way home! But now he's an adult, and he's given up. Maybe Donkey thinks he's too far to ever find the way home. But since we see Pinocchio, we KNOW that Pleasure island must be closer then Donkey thinks. Donkey just doesn't know da wae! All he can do is make waffles, keep talking and enjoy what life he has now... Which is super depressing! But that's just a theory. A This-is-so-long-why-didn't-I-just-make-a-video-i-should-be-cleaning THEORY! Edit: OMG my comment was liked and pinned by the theory crew! Thank you so much! Edit again: Dudes, I know the pin was taken off. Didn't know that happens when you edit. but I'm just happy I was noticed in the first place.

[@Thedude-gc5vu]

Tegan Dumpleton I’m not reading all that but I’ll pretend it was crazy. BRUHHHHH

[@papyrusthegreatpainter3550]

Hey nice, you got a heart!

[@nothomebutnotreally3782]

It makes more sense

[@DrDrao]

Perhaps it's not time that stops them from talking, but time on pleasure island. That's why talking donkeys are sent back to pleasure island. What if the donkey simply pretended to not know how to talk, got shipped off, and subsequently escaped? As far as telling people about pleasure island, perhaps he did? In fact, that could be how he escaped. There's no real evidence he didn't before the events of the movie, and the movie's clearly in an alternate timeline from the events in pinnochio. I mean, I don't remember that classic scene from pinnochio when he tried to raid a castle to rescue an ogre... That could be why pinnochio is still a wood boy. He didn't become a donkey, ever. He was never kidnapped. Finally, donkey's probably an orphan. He had nowhere to go anyway. So, he was let free to wander the world, and eventually, he got over the events of his early life. It makes more sense in context, and makes for a much more light-hearted story. But I guess he just wanted to make another dark theory?

[@tegandumpleton3360]

​@@papyrusthegreatpainter3550 Eeeeh...I don't know. I turned Donkey from a traumatized little boy to an old man in denial who's given up Potato-Patato

[@mistermadness677]

I honestly think Donkey has his priorities straight. He probably thinks he’ll be sent back if he tells anyone about his origin story. Also, banging Dragons FTW.

[@420roachdoggjr]

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that this theory implies a human child in the form of a donkey conceived children with a dragon?

[@maxyb3914]

Furries man

[@NachtAsile]

like humans aren't? lol, nature is wonderful

[@Flama741]

The events of Shrek could have happened many years after the events of Pinocchio. There is no guarantee that Pinocchio will ever turn into a real boy, I.E there is no need for all the fairy tales to be complete. This means that the exploitation of donkey children could have gone on forever, or that our Donkey could have set them free off camera (maybe with his dragon wife? who knows).

[@LemonadeSandwich]

Yes

[@Akriashi]

you spelled "adorable" wrong..

[@pilot1117]

Film Theory: *not a donkey* Me: His name is still Donkey either way, so he will always be donkey

[@eriyed_miradasanuestravida6424]

This is why grammar is important kids.

[@amazingslab]

@@therandomgirl5590 no

[@wrath745]

Real donkey no in name alone, come on dont be stupid, stupid

[@bootyfly5456]

The Random Girl your content isn’t worth subbing to

[@TabbyVee]

Donkay*

[@ohrats731]

Daaaaang I never watched Pinocchio as a kid. No one told me it was so dark!

[@esayem7746]

I remember being scared shitless of that movie as a kid 😭😭 actually most of those old timey cartoons were horrifying to me lmaoo

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Still my favourite movie though. The whale part is the scariest one for me.

[@ohrats731]

Sam DelaRosa yeah I bet! I didn’t see a lot of Disney movies as a kid but I was afraid of E.T. and The Dark Crystal lol

[@L16htW4rr10r]

@@ohrats731 I sadly (?) never watch any of this movies. X,D

[@laemmeelagi]

lol the original Pinocchio gets hanged from a tree and nearly kills a kid with a thick book, talk about darkness

[@solar_9878]

seeing matpat arrest Prince Charming with Russian subtitles genuinely made me laugh

[@TylerTMG]

it needed english for deaf people

[@solar_9878]

@@TylerTMG deaf people who know russian: i have no such weakness

[@TylerTMG]

@@solar_9878 also translate i forgot about translate its horribe but you can use it

[@solar_9878]

@@TylerTMG i might lol

[@user-qz4pc]

The name of... pleasure island is uh.... disturbing

[@swordaka]

In the original book series the disney movie is based of of, the island is called Toyland. Why Disney changes it to that...no clue o0

[@takoihina4731]

h e n t a i

[@sophielouisemusic8715]

There used to be an actual theme park called Pleasure Island in the UK 😂

[@StaindTunic]

E p s e e n ????,;";;,

[@lachanclap3758]

Chick fil A workers be living there

[@tayloradams3993]

You: Donkey's a traumatized child. You: He's evil for not wanting to tell anyone about this trauma lol

[@Eemazz]

Lol, right? I was thinking the same thing.

[@FatherAndrew-Scarlet-Priest]

Nice double standards matpat. smh.

[@philscott1445]

Oh crap I’m evil?

[@munafruit]

right

[@jessedrawsstuff1402]

literally like if he was a kid he doesn’t know, he’d probably be still kinda fucked up and scared that if he told anyone the people running it would find him and take him back. like ik this is just a dumb film but like? dude??? can’t paint him as evil for having trauma???

[@shinyumbreongirl2965]

I think the reason Donkey had never said anything about the Donkey Scheme was because he might’ve thought nobody would believe him. That’s why he goes by just... Donkey. After all, especially if the scheme is still a big secret, nobody would have any reason to believe him. And clearly through the movies nobody takes Donkey seriously because not only is he a donkey, but because of his jokester personality. Many victims of abuse may not come out either because someone may find them and discredit them, or just not believe them. He’s gone through trauma. He doesn’t want to talk about it, because he may be scared someone is going to come and find him. He’s a victim and he was abused on the island to make him feel like he had no power. That’s just my own personal theory. As to not just demonize a victim of course akdhsjf

[@makayla2831]

i agree. and maybe the only way they WOULD believe him is if he took them there and he’s afraid of being re-captured if he did.

[@bynnyn]

@@makayla2831 What if word about him drifts to the island and he's taken back! They would follow, of course, because he is Donkey, but still. It'd be a whole Shrek war arc.

[@cantmakeacreativename2072]

While this is very, VERY late, I feel like I should mention that Donkey wouldn’t need much proof or reasoning to get people to believe him…. I mean, he IS the proof. You don’t just see talking Donkey’s regularly. There are likely other reasons for him keeping quiet. Maybe he doesn’t know how to save them, maybe he’d rather let it be in the past, or maybe he doesn’t even wanna save them because any attempt to do so will bring attention to him and possibly force him back to Pleasure Island.

[@minecraft6829]

Talking animals seems to be pretty normal in the shrek universe thought

[@TailwagAnimation]

I agree with this!

[@מעייןעשירי]

13:53 Maybe he did tell about it, which is why Pinocchio never got there in the first place

[@eightyeighttwenty-five8799]

In Shrek 2 donkey says he was sold for magic beans. Usually Jack from Jack in the beanstalk sells a cow but it's not hard to imagine in Shrek universe he sold a donkey instead.

[@alexricky87]

Donkey's been around for awhile so I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow ended up at Jack's farm then got sold because he wouldn't shut up

[@Deneberus]

Or he got rejected once on pleasure island, and stayed silent the second time around so he could just get off the island, even though he didn't fully transform, so he never really directly escaped from the island. He was *sold* to Jack, and maybe that's Jack's mother or grandmother that's bringing the donkey to the guardsmen at the beginning of the movie.

[@laffy7204]

That doesn't contradict the idea that Donkey use to be human. Jack's mom could have bought him from the salt mines

[@asaadbobby1]

@@Deneberus This is good

[@MFAwps]

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[@ravynme8975]

He was a "bad" kid because he had an awful childhood. He talks about getting beaten and berated, so all of that trauma changed him; as well as getting transformed into a donkey. Him talking so much and needing to cling to even Shrek (who's also super mean), are two signs of mental issues. So him escaping the donkey people, and still being a child/irresponsible into his adulthood are very clearly connected. He (like most of the other characters) would very much benefit from therapy.

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

Putting the responsibility of a perpetrator's crimes into victims, is victim-blaming. It's not fair to put all that extra pressure onto an incredibly traumatized person. I was deeply upset that Matpat victim-blamed donkey. Both because it TRIGGERED THE FUCK OUT OF ME, and because it suggests the prevalence of this kind of view point. The only person responsible for the actions of evil people, are those evil people themselves. Being heroic, and being a good person aren't always synonymous; And telling victims that they are villains unless they are heroic, is nightmare fuel for survivors, 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@andrew_h6]

Raven Godwin Satire?

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

@@andrew_h6 All art comes with a message, and presumptions made about how the world works. If satire presumes the same worldview as what it is mocking, then it inherently reinforces the position of what it's mocking. Like, a satire could be made about the nazis taking charge and giving the jews, but unless the satire mocks those racist views as being wrong, then it inherently supports the position. An example of this would be mocking how inefficient the nazis were at genocide, but NEVER addressing the racist perspective as anything bad or wrong. Also, this video is light comedy, not satire. Satire criticizes an artistic piece through mockery. Theories about worldbuiling, are not criticism. And finally, Matpat spoke the language of victim blaming without ANY indication that he believed such language, terminology, and philosophy to BE wrong. In fact, Matpat attacked Donkey's character for not "speaking out", and he did so like it was the DEFACTO behavior we should expect from a victim like Donkey. Moreover, can we really claim that comedy, satire, and jokes are immune from criticism when jokes can cause PANIC ATTACKS, NERVOUS BREAKDOWNS, and SUICIDE(bullying mainly consists of "jokes")

[@andrew_h6]

Raven Godwin I wasn’t saying this video was satire, I was hoping your outrage over this cartoon donkey being blamed for not speaking out was satire. It isn’t that deep. It’s shrek.

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

@@andrew_h6 All art is deep, because art is a description of how we see the world, what we feel about what we see, and about the quintessential conundrums of existence, 😁 All art has the power to change people's minds, and for that reason alone, we should respect art. Besides that, should I feel bad about being moved by a person's message? Should I feel bad for getting excited over theories and world building of fantasy worlds? I didn't have a real father, so I identified with Luke Skywalker; And vicariously came to terms with my dad through Luke's story(Star Wars OT). People can get very attached to "fictional" characters, and we can even wrap up our identities in their stories(usually unconsciously). Not to mention how stories can resonate with the audience's own experiences. The truth is, fictional characters and stories are EVERY bit as real as the conversation we're having right now, 😉 The words I'm speaking are written, the written language is spoken only in a person's imagination, the symbols and words of language rely on imagination to "picture"/"illustrate" it's significance and meaning, and the imagination is only a distortion of sensory information we've cataloged into memory. This conversation is SOOOOOO far divorced from present breathing, sensing, and feeling, reality, that to engage and read the wording, is to "day-dream". These stories, fantasies, and daydreams, inform our present realities, and give our lives purpose, context, and meaning. Fiction, is as important as a person needs it to be.

[@truanalain4266]

I think it's as simply explained as the following conversation: "what would be a good sidekick?" "a talking ass" "give that man a raise"

[@jackpadz6079]

"a talking ass" *Boss throws employee off the building* "That was a great idea but I'm taking the credit for that."

[@meganerrea5609]

wisest comment of all.

[@princessazulaofthefirenati5870]

560th like

[@MrErockman]

Oh found this on the Shrek Wiki under Donkey's page, "Though it is never stated which fairytale creature Donkey is based on if any, it is possible he is based at least partly on the Aesop Fable of the stubborn donkey who ran off a cliff out of stubbornness against his master. This is supported by his first scene in the original Shrek, where he is pleading with his former owner that he won't be stubborn again." I guess Matt does these theories for fun now, either way it is entertaining XD

[@44SHOTS]

Idk why but this theory oddly disturbs me like it’s kinda creepy

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

You shouldn't be, because the theory is totally wrong down to it core. Shrek the movie is just based on Shrek the kid's book, and Shrek the kid's book actually did have a talking donkey in it. Not some human that was horrifically transformed into a donkey, just a regular everyday real donkey who magically gained the ability of human speech. This is just a very classic case of MatPat not doing his homework, and not double checking all of his facts.

[@formerlyjellosworld6685]

Same

[@TheFullmastee]

the donkey scene in Pinocchio was disturbing for me :(

[@fischaventine8313]

Same

[@madkirk7431]

whats new?

[@philipcollier4883]

If Donkey is an escapee of pleasure island he would have been 8-10 years old. Assuming he is around the same age as Shrek and Fiona(25-30) he would have been on the run from them 15-20 years, bouncing from place to place as his secret us discovered and he had to run again. He probably repressed his pre donkey childhood as a defense mechanism. I believe 10yo donkey tried to explain his situation to anyone who would listen but most likely met with beatings or being chased off so no Donkey is not a fault for not going back to pleasure island to rescue any kids trapped there. For all we know he and Dragon liberated them off screen during Shrek and Fiona's honeymoon.

[@darth_meme_lord2980]

You know that's not really bad and it makes sense on why donkey decided to shut up and say nothing about pleasure island because of your following reasons I mean put yourself in donkeys childhood shoes or hooves what would you do if no one believed you about a island turning children into donkeys

[@manicmax7909]

"For all we know he and Dragon liberated them off-screen during Shrek and Fiona's honeymoon." Now THAT is a movie I want to see.

[@darth_meme_lord2980]

@@manicmax7909 yeah that would be nice to know that donkey went back to end all the hell he and those children he was with and the children that are going to be the next victims

[@nickmoeller1686]

epicgamer for Life yes because donkey "shuts up" lol in all actuality you do make a good point my friend

[@darth_meme_lord2980]

@@nickmoeller1686 thanks

[@greatpondsfm727]

Matpat: *refers to Schaffrillas Productions* Me: Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

[@karthekaiju]

According to Shrek 3, Donkey is from Old Mac Donald’s farm

[@stanletters]

When I was little, I just figured the main characters would be original while famous characters are cameos

[@LooDoesStuff]

same

[@thejazzy6012]

Makes sense to me

[@alminhelex]

Ahh but then explain puss in boots. Technically a main character I would argue

[@yukido42]

@@alminhelex and he has his own spin off series puss in boots and movies.

[@P4rz1va1]

@@alminhelex that's an excellent point

[@annaliseph]

matpat releases a theory my childhood *ight imma head out*

[@turbopros1430]

Your not alone

[@moinkallo689]

annasaurus He didnt releasen a theory... He copyd this theory by another

[@atua9969]

Imagine matpat being funny

[@lukelcs8934]

Honestly, most of the evidence is kinda coincidence sounding, but the part about learning to control his donkey noises is actually pretty solid.

[@starling1226]

I think Donkey just felt that there was nothing he could do about it. It just felt so hopeless that he just became apathetic to it.

[@TA-pw9zs]

Donkey is meant to be from a book only, not a very known one, but it’s called ‘Sylvester and the Magic Pebble’. It’s by William Steig, who also wrote the book Shrek!

[@hvmvideos2494]

Oh yeah. I’ve read that when I was younger.

[@pastel-mochii4415]

👏under👏rated👏comment👏

[@davetoms1]

+

[@AmeliaOak]

I searched this. It wasn’t hard to find it and this single comment discredits the entire video. This comment needs more attention. Sorry MatPat, I love your videos but this was lazy research on your part

[@maxthefool]

T A oof

[@superjare23]

I think Donkey just didn't talk so they would sell him before he went full donkey. That's why at the beginning of Shrek he didn't talk when the old women asked him to. It was symbolizing how he escaped with his voice. And once he was set free (The pixie dust) he was free to talk because he didn't feel like he was in trouble. He had a way out. He is just smarter than he looks!

[@dreamcanvas5321]

And she probably *knew* because maybe he thought he could trust her. Which would've made him even more hesitant to tell anyone about his past. I mean hell, the only motive for for the Pleasure Island goons was money & maybe the evilz.

[@Daniel_B79]

"living it up, banging dragons" Hah! Honestly laughed out loud.

[@cyrus3236]

Yourf a bunnNa me 1t drnk

[@dragonkitties4life]

I’d argue that Donkey might have tried to tell someone but whoever he went to didn’t believed him, or at the very least was willing to help (Especially seeing how fairytale creatures are treated in Shrek). Since it probably took a lot of effort and courage to tell someone only to get rejected, he decides that it was pointless to try and tell people and instead wants to push past his trauma and live his life now as a donkey.

[@liv1522]

I think he probably just has PTSD and doesn't feel safe to talk about it

[@purplecatloverrandompizza]

Or he unconsciously blocked it out

[@vanessang7210]

that's what i was thinking

[@Funtwistedthings]

Vanessa Ng but that’s just a improvement, A better improvement! Thanks for reading.

[@crinsombone5380]

Or he already told people. Why do you think Pinochio isn't a donkey?

[@poyo4169]

Spinel in a nutshell

[@LadyOnikara]

So, did he start having a physical attraction to dragons before, or after.........

[@sadsworth4605]

What's the difference

[@sweetestvee777]

I think after because, let's just be honest, who would want to date a donkey? If the only person (or creature) that loves him is a dragon, then he'll go for it.

[@XItaSasux4ever12]

They got together because Donkey realized how badly he hurt Dragon when he rejected her out of fear for his own life.

[@yoda2495]

Before that's why he was considered a naughty boy

[@OmagaProject]

I mean in a world of talking sapient and intelligent animals , it’s not that weird tbh

[@beefcakesmchunkerson9079]

Can’t believe I’m doing this. Donkey deserves some leeway, because he’s a survivor and it’s likely that nobody would ever believe him. Would you believe a talking donkey that he was turned into a donkey by an island?

[@redstripedsocks5245]

considering the donkey is talking probably.

[@maem7462]

Maybe he thought that if he told anyone they would send him back and he could get killed or the people he told might just kill him

[@Starlitsoul0359]

My thoughts exactly, I can imagine above all else Donkey more or less has to have an ingrained fear of pleasure island and the people who were his captors. Sure, he could try and speak up. But I’m sure in his mind... There is no stopping them, sure he can face down a dragon and win them over. But... The guys running pleasure island? Not a chance, because of his experiences with them, they’re likely seen as.. Well... Unstoppable... A huge evil that he cannot overcome, and one he’d never risk his newfound friends with.

[@formerlyjellosworld6685]

Red Striped Socks when i first read your reply, i thought yeah. But keep in mind they’re in a place that fairy tale characters exist. (Also im sorry if im wrong, i’ve never seen shrek)

[@terrisplash7045]

yeah, cause it talks.

[@jadeangelofficial3096]

I always thought the spell that fell on him in the first movie was how he could talk. Does that mean he talk before that?

[@styrishfernando1849]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m57HhoWaqNKaq7M Before the spell itself he talks with the lady before being rounded up

[@IcyDiamond]

He was faking

[@siobhancadogan9836]

Donkey: I can't feel my toes I don't have any toes Donkey: I'm making waffles Donkey: I'm having memories of wedgies and swirlies Donkey: your days of little donkey dumpy drawers are over Donkey: somethings are better left unsiad

[@DivineChaos204]

Shrek: 🤨🤔

[@JoelGarcia-wg3zd]

unsaid*

[@xandan1668]

@@JoelGarcia-wg3zd Shrek: hold the phone?!

[@reenabobeena]

Me, reads title: "Yeah sure Matpat." Me, after video ends: "Aight, who's next?"

[@ThomasTiberio-qf9wd]

When Matpat makes a theory: Well, there goes my childhood

[@land2d322]

Wow it said that it was 68 likes so I like but then it turns into 71 :/

[@HellfireEx]

There goes your childhood?? Man, Pinocchio was the creepiest movie ever!

[@Slushy_maker]

I actually wanna propose a theory of my own. Precisely on how donkey escaped... Perhaps the reason why he's not talking about the other boys on pleasure island is that he made a deal to escape and still keep a portion of his humanity left. Maybe the trade offer was to keep quite and they may let him go with some of humanity.

[@quasar5563]

In Donkey's defense, the reason he isn't telling anyone about sugarcandy island is probably because he's afraid that the criminals will try to get revenge (most likely via murdering him). It's a lot how like rape victims will be nervous to tell anyone that they have been raped because of the repercussions. Also trauma. Trauma is a powerful thing.

[@superdude11235]

Honestly, if I was turned into a donkey I would be seriously traumatized

[@bogwinkled]

that’s what i was saying

[@irvdante]

Also there is a good chance that nobody believed him either

[@PineappleLiar]

I find it odd how the video doesn’t point out how the very first scene of Donkey in the movies shows that he’s learned to not talk when prompted by people. I figure the more likely outcome is that Donkey pretended to not know how to talk anymore to get off the island. He was eventually sold to the old lady, who caught him possibly talking to himself and brought him in during the round-up.

[@danaturinova944]

@@PineappleLiar that's really good theory

[@CCartman69]

Hey come on Matt. Donkey is a victim, clearly still suffering trauma from his transformation. You can't blame him for not coming forward. Besides, you saw how afraid he was of talking in the first movie when he was being sold-he knew if he spoke, the criminals might find him and take him back to Pleasure Island. Besides, it's not like Pinocchio ever did anything about Pleasure Island either.

[@cruiser_b9779]

Core Brute Don’t forget this is a cartoon with fictional characters.

[@mopsssw]

@@cruiser_b9779 Don't you ever disrespect shrek like that again

[@mwcshk113]

@@cruiser_b9779 @Cruiser_B 97 it may be just fictional but what happened to pleasure island had its inspirations from histories of child trafficking and slavery which is very much true. And if donkey was inspired from a child trafficking survivor then the video indirectly implies that all survivors of the crime is an accomplice for "not speaking up" which is a horrible accusation to a child that was also a victim. Hence, victim-blaming is greatly criticized by the public for being immoral and insensitive to what the victim had gone through.

[@cruiser_b9779]

Eidrian Christian This is a KZbin channel that reviews theories, nothing more. Stop looking too much into it. He’s not running a PSA, and you shouldn’t expect to find that kind of content on here. I don’t expect to find morality from comedians in their comedy shows and won’t bring up about how their comedy is hurtful to certain victims because it’s a comedy show and they’re nothing but comedians.

[@mwcshk113]

@@cruiser_b9779 you said it yourself, he just "reviews theories, nothing more". He couldve just ended the video with the conclusion that donkey was in fact from pleasure island and stopped there. Honestly, what a clown you are.

[@Poopydoopysxoopy]

Maybe he’s scared that if he blabs about the operation they’ll find him I’d be scared too

[@dildobaggins069]

He has info on the clintons and epstein, he is staying quiet to stay alive

[@Poopydoopysxoopy]

mike judge yes

[@FOGRedemption]

Except he is married to a dragon and has friends who are royalty. Could you know... go all fantasy medieval and put an end to that?

[@sheaonthirteen5742]

He was just a kid when this happened. Its not like he was an adult or anything. He didn't really know who to turn to either. I mean any kid in donkeys position would feel the same.

[@Poopydoopysxoopy]

FOGRedemption he’s still traumatized u saw how’d they talked he was sent back and tortured even more that was how he knew to survive staying silent

[@justincase3230]

I always figured he'd escaped from pleasure island. Kept Wondering if he was gonna be like "aye, Pinocchio, how ya doing man?"

[@-cinnamnlikesrolls-4614]

And also in Shrek the Third, when Donkey and Puss switch bodies Donkey says: “I haven’t been on a trip like that since College.” It’s an adult joke indicating that Donkey went on a drug trip one time- Probably why he went to Pleasure Island

[@n8latham]

That sounds like improv from Eddie Murphy lol

[@katiestevenson7742]

@@n8latham Can't believe I didn't know Eddie Murphy was donkey.

[@preshuzmelody]

that line actually kinda ruins the “donkey from pinnochio” theory since they only threw kids on the island.. if he had gone to college then he wasn’t a kid

[@alica023]

@@preshuzmelody that actually depends. There have been case of children 14 and even younger going to college. Especially those from wealthy families. For example, Michael Kevin Kearney graduate from college at age 10.

[@kaylalynn701]

College in the us is higher learning. College in the uk is 17-18. So still technically a kid.

[@redmondproductions7030]

donkey might not want to say anything because he's traumatised, people who experience trauma like to stay as far away from the cause of it. also, if donkey were to tell others about pleasure Island, he would be revealing himself to the guys that run the island and have a bounty put on his head or something. as selfish as it may seem, hes just a trauma victim trying to protect himself

[@EGRJ]

Also, maybe he tried to tell people and they didn't believe him, so he just gave up. Or maybe they couldn't find the island.

[@hegone3290]

EGRJ true but if a talking donkey came to me telling me about the island I would most likely believe them, or I’d go see a psychiatrist.

[@redmondproductions7030]

@@hegone3290 would u honestly believe a story like that though? and say if someone did believe donkey what could they do? most would say its not my problem or they would do nothing just to stay out of trouble. remember how dangerous the pleasure island people could be

[@toastandbutter7367]

Redmond Productions I might believe it considering I’m in a land of fairytales and stuff like that can happen. I do agree with you though, on him being traumatized from it.

[@ghostofuchiha3807]

Or maybe he even told somebody and they freed the kids and donkey just doesnt want to remember it? Why is nobody thinking about that?

[@Emajenus]

Why are you pinning this on Donkey? He's a child who escaped slavery. Of course he'll be scared to talk and he won't trust anyone not to send him back to the island. He's traumatized and obviously has a severe need to feel protected. Just look at who he married. He can't take responsibility for Pleasure Island. Give the guy a break.

[@christopherw8654]

Emajenus it’s not real

[@faresalsayed9005]

Christopher w so what? It’s still sending a bad message to the millions who watch him and take what he says to heart (even though they shouldn’t)

[@mwcshk113]

@@christopherw8654 its implications of victim-blaming affects more people than you could possibly think.

[@christopherw8654]

Eidrian Christian it’s a theory. And it’s all made up. It’s not victim blaming to point out the obvious. If the theory is true donkey could have spoke out and saved all those kids. It’s not donkeys fault tho as the video pointed out.

[@gafanhotogamer5993]

I don't believe any trauma victims had the help of a dragon to deal with its slavers

[@megmalins]

Let’s keep in mind that donkey might have been used to living as a donkey long enough that he forgot. Or he forcefully blocked it from his memory and in the shriek movies did not think to tell about it

[@zacharylee1995]

Maybe DreamWorks should make a Shrek Prequel movie about Donkey Story

[@LonkTho]

Zachary Lee epic

[@Darkstormsun9865]

Yes!!! They should donkey is the best character in the film.

[@toebrother]

Or a prequel about the onions

[@Temzy]

I'd watch

[@funkyfun9226]

@@LonkTho are you just commenting on random comments? I saw you earlier XD

[@LeoStaley]

Donkey told the world about the island, which interrupted the story of Pinocchio, which is why Shrek's Pinocchio never turned into a real boy. It's hard to beleive that the several years of the Shrek stories occurred during that one relatively short period of time where Pinocchio was a living toy, before becoming a living toy donkey. No, he told the world, they shut they whole thing down, and now it's just a part of his dark past. Pinocchio never went through that experience, and that why he had never turned into a Real boy.

[@DoraG99]

Apart from two minutes accidentally in shrek 2 ;P

[@christianthornton7688]

Oh shit that adds up

[@moarmy6779]

I really liked your theory. It makes a whole lot of sense!

[@G3Onaut]

Alternate timeline? Nice. 👍

[@KymBB95]

It also makes sense as far as the fact that in the Shrek movies, Pinocchio acts a lot more like an adult than a child. I don't recall if his age was ever mentioned...but I'd bet that he grew into an "adult" after so many years, but still never learned his lesson so never became a human

[@TtJ5555]

At the begining of shrek when the lady is trying to sell him donkey acts like he cant speak most likely in fear of getting put back on the island

[@HyperMushroomYT]

Maybe the reason he's not telling anyone about Pleaser Island is because it was so traumatizing that he can't.

[@randomweeb9179]

Also about Shrek. My high school marching band theme is Shrek this year. It never dies

[@nghtspawn651]

I wanna see that

[@pikachugirl15]

Random Weeb I wanna see 2

[@zokidd1379]

Last year shrek was the musical at my school

[@cantseefuji]

My old high school is doing Shrek The Musical this year and I have to design the poster

[@Paola-hd1tm]

@@zokidd1379 Lucky

[@vinhbean_]

When Film Theory watches a movie Movie: Here's a little story Film Theory: actually...

[@reportsoldier1636]

Use Well yes but actually no

[@zinebznouba6216]

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[@naxshawaryx4000]

Could it be a PTSD thing? Maybe he's not able to remember all of what he went through, he just knows it was horrible somewhere in his past and he doesn't want to go there again. It hurts to much to even think about. He can't bring himself to admit what happened, let alone the fact that it's still happening to others.

[@NikkiDarkMatter]

Especially as a kid? Something like that you'd have to block out of your memory if you wanted to function at all.

[@kusaisama]

But he can remember the name bullys called him.

[@fightinggamegeek9238]

Or he’s too traumatized to tell anyone. It’s common in trauma victims.

[@vclentines5557]

donkey probably repressed it tbh

[@ccherry.berryy]

I am so happy that this introduced me to James, now he’s one of my favourite creators

[@nbabackcourtmedia]

*Reads title* Me: I knew there was a reason Eddie Murphy was in the credits instead of donkey

[@jayebrasi]

😂

[@victorygamer713]

I don't get it

[@doggo_woo]

@@victorygamer713 The joke is that Eddie Murphy was the human donkey XD

[@ArchVileManica]

@@victorygamer713 Eddie was the voice actor for donkey

[@fangsoffuego]

Today I learned that there are 140 species of donkeys (Fun fact: dunkey is the best donkey ever)

[@parker0216]

you mean dönkey?

[@ye1386]

Knack 2 baby

[@projectaspect2906]

Bay2bayboy DUNKEY

[@moosecampbell]

Fangs of Fuego M0áR Dûndeę!

[@titantrum3352]

How about the drunkey?

[@yoparms3150]

Just imagine if Shrek and Donkey went on a quest to free all the Boys on Pleasure Island how awesome would that be

[@mantis5500]

shrek 5 plot

[@tobiswanaudios]

@@mantis5500 i wish but since illumination is behind it...be ready for it to be 60 minuets of fart jokes and like 40 minuets of filler and like 20 minuets of minions

[@banksy7376]

@@tobiswanaudios THEY ARE?! DAMN IT

[@MelanieUz]

Right! One where we get more info on donkeys background. They could start their mission when pinocchio goes missing and the have to find him. Maybe that will make donkey start talking.

[@Noah-lo9vb]

The true ending they always believed.

[@edevonne]

He's an adult in the movie. We can see he was abused by more than one of his "owners". The old lady beat him and he was scared shitless of the old keepers place. He probably tried to tell many people and no one believed him. He was even punished for it. That why he doesn't even bother bringing it up anymore.