Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right!

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With the return of The Mandalorian season 2 to Disney+, I felt it was about time to also return to a Star Wars theory. In a previous theory, I talked about how the Jedi could be construed as an 'evil' order. Today, I'm taking that kind of idea and flipping it to talk about the Empire itself! I think The Mandalorian provides us with even more clues that the Empire may not be as wrong in it's philosophy as we thought! How? Why? Well Theorists, make sure you Baby Yoda is somewhere safe because this is about to take a turn to the dark side...
0:38 - This is referencing two different studies citing two different percentages. It is not between 31% and 58%, it is both 31% and 58% percent results from the two studies.
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[@bensfanclubpresident2614]

I once saw “The empire did nothing wrong” written on a bathroom ceiling

[@darlasteindler3539]

@Fnaf fox Fan Why tho

[@liker-qd4fz]

Me who wrote that on the ceeling of my former school's bathroom : *Odin is with us!*

[@RandomGuy0400]

I once saw an image of a bathroom stall with "you look nice today" written on the inside of the door.

[@liker-qd4fz]

@Christian Salluce Maybe a minecraft mod that replaces Mob spawners with Toilets and all mobs are Skletons disguised as stormtroopers , with arrows being lazers and blasters as bows.

[@KetaminePizzaGhost]

@Corn Peyton like having both a swastika, and a hammer and sickle next to each other

[@jaimelannister1797]

They even reduced crime rate on Alderaan to zero

[@ct183]

yeah thanks sheev!

[@HotCoals]

Too soon

[@Master_Skywalker09]

Yes my master

[@HotCoals]

@Lord Waluigi TOO. SOON.

[@haicoai6269]

Gyes ohkzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@colinivey1546]

Fun fact, Alderaan had an extremely powerful private military, that if it had survived, would have been a huge thorn in the empires side.

[@jameswalker199]

Alderaan was also separatist. Granted, that could just be a 51% attack on every other political view on the planet, but at least 51% of the people voted in a separatist government and were not innocent in the Empire's eyes. Also, Alderaan had a small population, Obi-Wan only says that "millions of voices" were silenced. It depends on how you're counting, but earth currently has billions of inhabitants.

[@shelldie8523]

​@@jameswalker199I don't remember which episode but Cara dune mentiones a number when talking to the Chinese pilot guy.

[@philv2529]

Well then it was a good thing for the Empire that they blew Alderan up

[@ttry1152]

Lets not forget in legends they beat the sith in a fist fight.

[@NanashiAkai]

About the empire and the ewoks, I'm not sure about current canon, but in legends the ewoks and the empire were certainly not on good terms by the time the rebels got there. This one elderly ex-stormtrooper even recounts the events like a survival horror story, slowly losing more and more members of his platoon to the dreaded ewoks. In the end when he was captured, he begged for the rebels to take him instead of leaving him to the ewoks.

[@ttry1152]

Yeah. They sorta ate them alivr and hjng them. Not "friendly"

[@aaronburkeen6409]

Well that might explain why the stormtroopers were leaving them alone. They wanted no part of that.

[@Woopor]

I think that Ex Stormtrooper musta played too much Ewok Hunt

[@shaydowsith348]

This is true. Ewoks were known to eat sapient beings.

[@koharumi1]

They did want to cook the rebels when they first met. They probably just wanted to have chicken again.

[@christianmarshal6117]

In Luke’s defense the Ewoks were planning to cook and eat him and his friends...

[@AndOnliCar]

I mean.. they did invade their place, didn't they?

[@JimBoi8437]

I mean he didn't have to drag them into the war he could of just mind trick them into letting them go and that's it

[@christianmarshal6117]

@@AndOnliCar the Ewoks were working with the Rebellion before that. A lot of them died bringing the information about the second Death Star to the Rebellion in the third movie.

[@korey8180]

@@JimBoi8437 he didn't know how to do that yet did they????? I'm not sure lol

[@shallbric6160]

Yeah

[@EvanJTao]

“I promise I won’t get all political” Me three drinks later:

[@nabeelfarooq3573]

I’m wondering what is the red thing on your profile pic can you tell me?

[@pcdog7027]

@@nabeelfarooq3573a broken heart I think

[@nabeelfarooq3573]

@@pcdog7027 k thanks

[@alexandrothealright9818]

@@nabeelfarooq3573 it’s a variant of the logo for Green Day’s American Idiot. A symbol for Rage and Love or something like that if I remember correctly.

[@nabeelfarooq3573]

@@alexandrothealright9818 nice

[@raccoonsarecool9888]

I think I also read somewhere that while jedi aren't allowed to have connections or communicate to friends of family after they have been "taken in for training", stormtroopers of the empire only aren't allowed to communicate to others when they are in the death star because it has to stay hidden.

[@jeremiahsnelson5644]

I mean. The difference is that one is a military organization, the other is a religious one.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

Also, Anakin went and visited his mother, remember? While the jedi teach detachment, they clearly do not force it and nobody is prohibited from leaving the order for good if they want. Anakin and his mom both wanted him to become a jedi.

[@loafstudios8811]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel yeah, he wasnt allowed to, he was meant to stay on Naboo

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@loafstudios8811 He was supposed to stay on Naboo, because that was his assignment. That doesn't necessarily mean that he was forbidden from visiting his family, though. Granted, it certainly looks that way, but I don't think they ever explicitly mentioned it in any piece of media that's canon.

[@greenmountainhistory7335]

Yeah, I mean Gary even has a daughter that he brings to work with him sometimes.

[@Archfiend_Sushi7746]

Also, most of the stormtroopers were relatively harmless, just doing their duty as soldiers. They’re either normal conscripted people from the Galaxy, or clones that are loyal to the empire’s cause of social order. It’s not like they’re hostile in every encounter, like pointed out with the Ewoks or how they are on Lothal in Rebels.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

Yes, Stormtroopers would never do horrible things like... you know.... Murdering an entire sand crawler of jawas because they *might* have seen something. Or burning an elderly farmer couple alive for the same reason. You know, if you ignore all the war crimes stormtroopers do, they are basically harmless, it's true.

[@BookDefender777]

​@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegelHe said most. "I was just following orders" never stopped being an excuse even in our amazing democracy and unfortunately as the video stated we need boots on the ground to keep people safe otherwise they fall victim to violent crime even more

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@BookDefender777 The point is that it doesn't matter if they are not murdering civilians *every* day, what matters is that they are all going to do it, when ordered to. And they will be, because the Empire is as evil as it gets. "We need the stormtroopers" makes no sense, because Tattooine was still a hive of scum and villainy even with, and probably especially, with the Empire there, because they did nothing to stop crime lords like Jabba, while burning civilians alive the moment they *might* become a problem. Tattooine looked way nicer in the prequels before the Empire took over, in fact.

[@BookDefender777]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel That’s not what the video said. Did you even watch it? You get any authoritarian party going on the offensive and you’ll find they end up committing some atrocities The Rebels included.

[@midgetydeath]

They’re not conscripted. In fact, if I remember correctly the Empire never used conscription.

[@annaharrington8397]

In season two, mayfield says something along the lines of “It doesn’t matter who rules to these people. Empire, republic, they’re all just people taking over their homes”

[@knightbot23]

Man i love that episode so much mayfield in season 2 was so good

[@iszox2973]

Also Mayfield in this episode: Remembers Operation Cinder and just shoots an imperial for beeing pure evil

[@horatioyen256]

yes thankyou for mentioning this

[@edgemaxxer1573]

It's true. Colonized countries don't care who's ruling them bad guys or good guys they just see them as invaders taking their stuff

[@Lord-Inquisitor]

@@edgemaxxer1573 Don't care? No wonder they don't have spines enough to defend their stuff in the first place. That's their first mistake, right there.

[@Banana-ip7hr]

"Yo dude the empire is pretty chill , maybe you can like , join it or something." so Darth Vader is telling the truth

[@i3igbro667]

Underrated.

[@AndrewAce.]

*Later Vader:* _"I LIED. As I have from the beginning..."_

[@thomashaeyen6942]

[[3:32]] **shows the flag of the galactic republic when discussing the empire and shows some random monstrosity when discussing the republic**

[@ryandunham1047]

I literally just read that in Beavis and Butthead's voices! XD

[@smartfrenandromax6651]

He gave an option, like he did to Obi-Wan. A censored plot is, he also gave an option to the Jedi Younglings. See My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic's "School Raze".

[@arcticsky2991]

My take away is this Star wars is a war. No different from real life, there's no good guys or bad guys, there is only 2 sides fighting for control of something

[@deviousalemanni4235]

@@rosealynn learning history i found that most people were colonisers to someone and the people usually fighting for their freedome are often elites that want to return to their ruling privileges. More often than not that fight for freedome ends in a worse situation than the one before ( see the soviet union & co). Even the Nazis, who were the closest we have to a truly evil regime, saw themselves as a victim and their fight to be righteous and to a degree they were right. The treaty of versailes, the occupation of the rhineland and parts of eastern germany, the marginalisation of germans in said regions and the threat that the soviet union posed to europe were all very real.

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

​@Rosealynn even then, it can depend. Like rebel groups in France during WW2. Officially, they were fighting to free France from German occupation. But, after a bit, the allies stopped giving them weapons, because they weren't using them to fight, they were hoarding them to fight the other rebel groups for control once the Germans were kicked out.

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

​@Rosealynn even then, it can depend. Like rebel groups in France during WW2. Officially, they were fighting to free France from German occupation. But, after a bit, the allies stopped giving them weapons, because they weren't using them to fight, they were hoarding them to fight the other rebel groups for control once the Germans were kicked out.

[@Thrush-flight]

@@kharnthebetrayer8251why did you put that twice?

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

@@Thrush-flight probably Internet nbeing weird when I sent it, lol

[@slynthrax5067]

I think a vital thing he forgot to mention with the Jedi that if you didnt get picked as someones padawan they forced you into child labor camps to produce food for the Jedi temple Obi-Wan was forced into one of those camps for a little while till Qui-Gon decided to train him so even the Jedi you know the good guys enforced slave labor/child labor instead of just sending the kids back to the families they stole them from which reminds me of my favorite quote involving the Jedi and Sith which I cant remember where its from "The Sith are just as bad as the Jedi they are just honest about it"

[@midgetydeath]

The food was for charity, not the Temple, but otherwise basically yes.

[@kaisermaximal8123]

Reminds me of a quote from Genghis Khan: "Conquering the world on horseback is easy, it is dismounting and governing it that is difficult"

[@hiesisme907]

Also Hamilton the musical said wining is easy governing is harder

[@erenjaeger4669]

True that was what happened to gengesh Khan empire

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

What were your thoughts on Season 2 Episode 7?

[@rashidahmed3527]

The empire is like the russian federation of today and putin is seen as the ultimate leader and tsar.if you don,t believe me just look at palpatine and putin more properly,both are trying their best to bring order and peace to the galaxy and russia which the jedi,s and western leader never wanted.they are only interested in collecting resources from weak and helpless people and alien for their own personal gain and nothing else.so when the empire was fallen the native alien of their planets were being robbed,hunted,raped,murdered and their resources taken from them and that,s why the first order was form to try to bring order and peace to the galaxy by removing the republic who are the real monsters and not the first order

[@kodaxmax]

Counter argument; ghengis just sucked at governing and basically just delegated everything to his children and generals

[@lakewoodbball]

“Sure, him and his mother live in slavery but they’re getting along just fine” -MatPat 2020

[@MacDaddyBlack546]

what a tone deaf thing for em to say

[@jabanyoclaus391]

LOL

[@chunkyMunky329]

Having a non-violent slave master is better than living in an area where a war lord might murder you and your family at any moment

[@stevenstevenson5501]

MatPat: But what if space Nazis we’re ACTUALLY the good guys?!?!

[@rosemali3022]

I hope you don't defend prison slavery then. Which is baked into the constitution and why the prison industrial complex exists.

[@GalaxyFoxx418]

When watching the prequels, my dad was saying Anakin joining the dark side *was* binging balance to the force. For a balance you need an equal amount on each side, and there was a whole lot more Jedi than sith, the force was imbalanced, so Anakin joining the dark side and Sideous initiating order 66 equalized the amount of good and evil, there was 2 Sith and 2 Jedi compared to 2 Sith and Hundreds of Jedi.

[@kaitlynhiggins3993]

This is the same argument my dad used...

[@GalaxyFoxx418]

@@kaitlynhiggins3993 Great minds think alike, either that or all dads have a hive mind

[@bladeknightmaster1]

Except that's not what Balance means in relation to the Force.

[@shark899138]

That's not the way the force works lore wise unfortunately. Not to mention the fact of Survivors of Order 66 also outliving the empire. Either way the force is usually just boiled down to for the mainstreamers: "Light side is about being peaceful. Dark Side is about being angry." When Jedi Light side users move with the force like more water in a stream. While Dark Side users work more like a Dam and steal from the force. The actively draw from and diminish the force which is always a net negative.

[@williamblazkowicz5587]

But at the end (not counting sequels) there's only 2 jedi no sith (going down to 1 jedi when vader bites bullet.

[@shaydowsith348]

would be curious to see your perspective on this after you see what life under the Empire was like in "Andor".

[@charlierock000]

Andor is just Jedi propaganda

[@InsideYourClosetRn69]

@@charlierock000 as a former actor on andor that escaped, yes, andor is indeed propaganda

[@benjaminkelly2733]

Honestly I think most of the empire is still better than the republic

[@A_random_iron_warrior]

@@InsideYourClosetRn69agreed being a imperial storm trooper it is rebel propaganda

[@centuriosupernumerarius1625]

Andor must be the propagandistic answer of the new republic to videos such as this.

[@raptorzeraora2632]

About alderann, palpatine got pretty mad when it blew up, he said that tarkin was lucky he died on the death star, I wonder what palpatine was planning on doing to tarkin if he survived

[@eatonkuntz]

Also, alderaan had a very low population and yes, some were innocent but it was also a military target that was hosting, funding, and leading a violent rebellion. The USA nuked two entire manufacturing cities in WW2, firebombed helpless puppet countries, invaded the Middle East for decades, etc. All in the name of peace and order to minimize the loss of life. So "millions of voices silenced" on alderaan seems like the price to save an entire galaxy from further violence.

[@nigelxd3735]

Actually wasn't Palpatine from Alderan, maybe I'm confusing it with Nabu or Corosant

[@knightofblackfyre7950]

@@nigelxd3735 Palpatine was from Naboo I think

[@nigelxd3735]

@@knightofblackfyre7950 oh, nevermind then

[@Revan-293]

@@eatonkuntz Alderaan had a massive population, sure is wasn’t on coruscaunt levels of population but still a lot

[@IN_ari]

Film theorys new theory: order 66 was secretly a good thing

[@BrotherTheory]

That would be mind blowing, awesome and weird at the same time.

[@baronvondarkltd5183]

Wouldn’t be surprised if he did one at this point lmao

[@Blue-mr7fe]

It brought balance to the force

[@ColdDoomOfficial]

It got rid of the non-secular branch of government controlling the rest of the government for its own religious beliefs, it absolutely was a good thing Edit: meant non-secular, accidentally said secular

[@Josiahdacoolest]

True it did bring balance

[@mikethegamer8492]

I think the reasoning behind the sequels failiure with the empire is bc they acted like the main characters were still rebels when they weren’t

[@Raven333W]

I watched the prequel for the first time a couple days ago and I couldn’t stop thinking about how anakin and emperor Palpatine we’re a textbook pairing of NPD (narcissistic personality disorder, Palpatine) and BPD. It’s cool to hear that someone officially came out and gave a anakin the bpd diagnosis because I was like this is a near textbook example of how narcissistic grooming and bpd often coincide. I wonder if the author did it on purpose or accident. Had Palpatine not groomed anakin since the day he met him, he would have turned out a lot different. As well as if the Jedi hadn’t constantly trivialized anakins emotions and experiences, they really Villianized him for existing which put him in a position that allowed the empower to swoop in. It was so hard to watch because bpd is such a stigmatized and misunderstood disorder, it’s hard to look at someone like anakin and recognize that he was really a victim since childhood as well as a villain.

[@noahperley318]

Teacher: What have you learned in this video? Me: MatPat is a sith lord

[@neadst]

A Sith Lord?

[@noahperley318]

@@neadst Yes, the one we’ve been looking for..

[@astaroth_sasazaki_yt]

DarthPat is real

[@richardthemilkman3011]

That is a good thing

[@Mike_Dubo]

But is he the master, or the apprentice?

[@Xwii610]

Leia: I'm on a diplomatic mission to alderan Vader *having just watched rogue one*: 🤨

[@m.c.martin]

Vader: Then why are you in the Outer Rim in the opposite of the Galaxy from Alderaan?

[@LegoBob4123]

@@m.c.martin she is taking the scenic route

[@Order-si7nd]

Vader I know it’s sus but we can always use the truth gas to get the truth

[@aroberuto]

That's one of many things that why rogue one doesn't work

[@aaronfidelis3188]

Vader (in Palpatine's voice): "How unfortunate it is that you are attempting to deceive me..."

[@majestic_defalt]

I took transformers and explained a similar take to this with the autobots and decpeticons, I really like flipping the script sometimes and showing just how evil the good side really is to show there’s more than meets the eye to a side

[@russelladkins8854]

You don't even have to flip the narrative, look at the old IDW continuity. Many Cybertronians were constructed cold into a predetermined class system guaranteeing them zero rights and no hope. In that continuity Megatron starts the Decpeticons as a philosophical opposition movements towards the predetermined functionalist perspective.

[@constantinb4592]

@@russelladkins8854 Doesn't help than a certain scientist who time travelled by accident ensured history repeated itself in such a way

[@theepicgoosedude]

Matpat: Yo dudes the empire is pretty chill maybe you should join it or something

[@morganszymanski9006]

So what you're saying is... Winning was easy, governing's harder?

[@kh2b573]

Communism moment

[@iaculat3133]

𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙙𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪, 𝙞 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙜𝙤𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙨𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙢𝙮 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙙.

[@theamericanbrotha]

Agreed

[@patrickcurtis642]

Cough cough (French revolution) cough cough

[@akunlama89]

Mongol moment

[@Quasimodo-mq8tw]

The Empire improves every land it touches: Every British colonial officer ever....

[@nitrokat7597]

True

[@amelist8123]

well it kind of did in a way. It brought modern medicine, education and infrastructure and philosophy. A lot of the stories of Aztecs being murderous war culture that eat people, which for many years people did not believe. Now archeologist and historians have proven a lot of the tall tails to be true. Like a giant wall build only out of human skulls that the Spaniards tore down. They found reminds of it under the grounds because it wasn't just extremely tall but went deep into the earth. The Spaniards could not have defeated the Aztec with out the help of the people they oppressed and ruled over as second class citizens and lambs for sacrifice. But of course this makes people who have the mind of a child angry because they think the world actually works like a star wars movie or a harry potter film, so this means one is saying that empire rule is correct. When nothing in life is so simple as a child's story.

[@WickedKnightAlbel]

@@amelist8123 Right, right, and that _totally_ justifies the Conquistadors slaughtering every last one of them for gold Get over yourself

[@Ragehaven]

Heroes one and all

[@lordchickenhawk]

@@WickedKnightAlbel Ummm... No. I don't think Ame was justifying it. I got the impression that he/she was asking "Which evil do you find least egregious?" slash "Are you a victim of your own child-like idealism?" P.S. Sorry for all the edits... I just realised that I have no idea whether Ame is a bloke/sheila/personal pronoun.

[@SovTheCherub]

Also there’s the possibility of the old Republic having the idea for the death star and wanting to create it. In the prequels we see chancellor palpatine hastily close blueprints of something that resembles the death star as anakin walks in.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

I take it you missed the part then, where the Geonosians gave Dooku the plans for the Death Star in the movie before that? Yeah, Palpatine definitely ordered those plans to be made for him. They weren't some secret Republic superweapon.

[@SovTheCherub]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel ohhhh Forgot about that, I haven’t watched the movies in a few years

[@frankjennings4489]

In the Obi Wan series, you also see this regular salt-of-the-earth driver talk about how the people around there are good empire-loving folk, meaning he saw the empire as a good stabilizing force, not an oppressive threat.

[@haroldmemphisjr1809]

Yea guys, the empire helped make Alderaan's unemployment rate to 0%.

[@ninjaneb9109]

Though the flip side of that is that Alderaan's employment rate is also 0%

[@tbnrrenagade9507]

the empire also prevented over-population on Alderaan.

[@MargoMayhem]

@@tbnrrenagade9507 also solved world hunger

[@emperorvader283]

@@ninjaneb9109 can’t have unemployment if you don’t have a population

[@ninjaneb9109]

@@emperorvader283 same goes for the original comment, you can't have employment either if you don't have a population

[@curiouslamp2841]

Matpat: Let's not take the Empire's promises at face value. Also Matpat: *Takes the Empire's promises at face value*

[@SalumarLP]

Tarkin: I have never done anything wrong in my entire life. Matpat: I know this, and I love you.

[@taxevasiongaming]

@@SalumarLP accurate 😂

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s vgrg

[@AAZ-yu5ss]

@@SalumarLP *TRUE!*

[@BreadTeleporter1968]

Matpat putting up first order troops when talking about the empire or the republic shows you just about how much he knows about this franchise…

[@jasonrobertson1284]

I think pre disney cannon displayed this a lot more. They clearly discuss the destruction of the deathstar in low orbit killed the ewoks gave them all cancer except 2 stuffed and outside the senate. The nogiri have almost identical situation and Vader legit saves as much if the species as humanly possible

[@ryderfletcher8670]

If you’ve read the book “lost stars” it shows multiple planets exploited for all its resources, entire species put into slavery and a complete disregard for all life including their own officers while the galaxy was under imperial rule.

[@Stiksta]

There's zero cohesiveness in expanded universe content honestly. One author can be brainwashed by the movie's with the propaganda that the empire is this evil malevolent force. So they'll write their stories as such. The other author can see the movies for what they are and pay more attention to create consistent narratives. I can see why Disney wanted to just throw it all out into the trash even though I completely disagree with how they did it.

[@sonnic1995]

@@Stiksta That's the thing. From just the movies, as it should be, he made this theory, and it fits. Not saying comics and all that shouldn't exist, but from the context of the movies all of them, Lucas, "modern Lucas" and Disney did a shitty job portraying the empire as being pure evil (in terms of how this video was able to put the theory) except for the Tarkin speech or wathever, pretty much everything was just from the movies. Long story short, my point is he has a valid point for this theory saying the good guys are the one you see thru certain point of view.

[@ZulatobariGreatforge]

@@sonnic1995 I think the Genosha massacre and slavery stuff was remade canon? Or at least the massacre bit in a comic line.

[@haicoai6269]

Goh yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@boof606]

I mean so did most countries on earth but we don’t really talk about that

[@prakashrawat8734]

A Young Child being whisked away from his parents to a place where a values are forcefully pressed upon and emotional needs are suppressed. Me: Sounds like school to me

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

School = The empire in disguise

[@SiddharthShenoy]

Holy shi-

[@albertjackinson]

Another reason why we need to fix the education system!

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@albertjackinson how? Won’t ever happen until another half century

[@albertjackinson]

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 A lot of work will need to be done; that's for sure. I'll think on how implementing them can be done. There are a lot of ideas on how to improve the system, but implementing them will be a challenge.

[@Towdi_]

One of your leading sources for why the empire isn't all that bad is Grand Moff Tarkin, on of the most powerful members of the empire

[@InitialPC]

and the leading sources for why the empire is bad come from rebels, whats your point?

[@GrahamWarzywo]

Youre actually wrong at one thing - "Tarkin" novel is canon, Tarkins invisible ship appears later in comics where it serves First Order (and is destroyed sadly)

[@arthurgrayson3968]

MatPat: The empire was not bad. KZbin comments: Begun The Comment Wars have.

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s eff

[@TheLastNewYorker]

So this is how Democratic conversation ends, with thunderous outrage.

[@arealisticbeautystandard8920]

I'm kinda scared to press the link i don't want to get rick rolled

[@jayvhoncalma3458]

Matpat should have started and stuck with food theory because he doesn't sound like a madman in a tinfoil hat in food theory

[@jaynguyen1573]

@@jayvhoncalma3458 so pointing out that an organization that wanted order may have been right on some things and the group that wants to overthrow the system may have caused a mess is considered tin foil hat stuff? Would it have pleased you if he said that everyone should get free stuff and not have to work?

[@QuixoteX]

I find it hilarious that people "discover" that there are problems with the republic and the Jedi order in the prequels, when that was literally the point of the prequels.

[@baconeater4133]

I think it's because people irrationally hated the prequels and didn't pay attention, or they only watched them as kids and didn't pick up on all the details until they rewatch them now

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

It's even there in the original trilogy: Luke had to turn against the advice of his Jedi mentors in order to face his father and defeat the Sith.

[@Avenger85438]

And how even worse people who don't care about others, can use these relatively minor problems to create scapegoats for their own agenda.

[@Avenger85438]

@@eyesofthecervino3366 It's a bit more nuanced then that. Since the first time he did that he was defeated and just got in the way of his friends saving Han. The message seems to be that your motives matter just as much as your actions. He wanted to save them because of how their pain affected him and ended badly. Luke wanted to save his father for his sake not his own and it worked out. In comparison. While Anakin wanted to save his loved ones as well he motives and actions where just so selfish and terrible it resulted in disaster. For the galaxy as well as himself.

[@fl00fydragon]

Yes, but the point of the prequels is that stagnating to a status quo of capitalism and ignoring the constant political and economic problems it creates and not moving forward to a better system when your technological advancement allows you to do so creates the conflicts that allow for fascism to take over. The best way to describe the prequels is "why socialists criticize centrist liberals: the trilogy"

[@jessestanford3261]

there was alot of scenes showing Tatooine, but Tatooine is not under the empire, its under Hutt space, and a bunch of other planets to go with it. plus the reason why the jedi didnt want anakin to be trained is because he was too old and already had attachments to his mother(which is why they take them as young children so they dont remember where they came from) and made friends with padme. the jedi have these rules because the dark side calls on negative emotions. which is why anakin turned to the darkside, because his mother was dead and he wanted to protect padme from dying as well. the jedi do it to grow the order to bring balance to the force.

[@Opr8rKaz]

the way i see it, the Empire reduced world hunger, no jobs, crime rates, all that when they got rid of aldeeran

[@LilMissMorpho]

MatPat next week: The Illuminati is a necessary evil.

[@LilMissMorpho]

@Don Shrek You know it.

[@pestylucas7406]

I mean, what did the Illuminati ever do to you

[@CartaplexUS]

Hey guys pack that is a A dictator sympathizer

[@LilMissMorpho]

@@pestylucas7406 how about putting their symbols in movies and games of all kinds? you could legit pull together a mega theory of the movies that are connected by that symbolism. For a secret society, their symbolism has gotten so popular movies now add it in on purpose as a cheap trick to rake in viewers.

[@RobocopStealerOfFridges]

@Ba Doai no.

[@MattF1337]

Outer Rim worlds: “This is outrageous it’s unfair!” Core worlds: “Take a seat!”

[@dingo7016]

Idk if ur comment is a lol or a sad thing to cry about

[@lordlaughypants5889]

And as Clerks points out, everyone on the second Death Star knew the risks and had to know that they were building a planet destroying non-moon. Also, let's not forget that the reason Alderaan was destroyed was because the planet Leia said their base was on was not important enough to make a statement. It wasn't even because they believed it was a Rebel base.

[@HolyknightVader999]

Alderaan supported the Rebels. For all Tarkin knew, it was another Geonosis, and we all know how hard it was for the Republic to take those Geonosian bastards down.

[@ttry1152]

Dantoine. Was actually investigated by imperials and did have a base on it. Buujt it was abandoned.

[@LanMandragon1720]

The risks aren't even relevant a naval base has always and will always be a legitimate target. The size of said base is entirely irrelevant to the question the whole idea it was a war crime is absurd.

[@midgetydeath]

Why did they have to know? It’s a secret. The crew and workers have no reason at all to be told what it is. And the Empire chose a highly visible Rebel base over a low visibility Rebel base. It was still due to their support of the rebellion.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@midgetydeath Alderaan was not in open rebellion, though. If it had been, Leia wouldn't have been able to pretend that she was on a diplomatic mission. And even with Alderaan's current government potentially planning to join the rebellion, heck, even if Alderaan HAD rebelled, this still wouldn't have justified this. This is like, if the Senator of Texas supported rebels planning to take over the US and as a response, they nuked every single square mile of the state and then sank the entire landmass into the ocean, killing every single living being there and ensuring that nothing could ever live there, again. It's not a warranted response by any metric. Also: the workers definitely knew what they were working on. There had already been a Deathstar and it had blown up a planet.

[@catholiccontriversy]

12:27 but MatPat, you're missing the critical second half of that Clerks scene, and that is when the roofer joins the conversation talking about the time he was offered a job by Babyface Bambino the gangster, and how he just didn't feel right doing the job, and so he referred it to a friend and the next day the Scappeli family put a hit on Bambino, killing the friend in the crossfire, and how all those contractors knew what they were risking.

[@metrophidon]

Star Wars: "Matpat, Chancellor Palpatine is evil!" Matpat: "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!"

[@Yasuda9000]

Well then you are lost.

[@lincolnjames3917]

Oh well, Hello there.

[@DanielTubeHQ-DTHQ]

All are evil

[@superfire6463]

“It was pretty good for the farmers” Luke’s aunt and uncle:

[@portobellomushroom5764]

@Deadpoppin well, until they were burned to a crisp

[@an8strengthkobold360]

They were good for *human* farmers. They were real bad for non humans.

[@redeye4516]

*there's a theory Auto correct

[@benshorr7980]

@@portobellomushroom5764 that was by boba Fett so technically not the empire

[@sharilshahed6106]

@@benshorr7980 that was by the Empire.

[@sanccex313]

Bro palpatine is just chillin in a chair, he doesn't has a luxurious life

[@mattyking1053]

Emperor palpatine: the dark side of the force has abilities that some to be unnatural Mat pat: I don’t need the force for that :) (This is a joke I love this channel :>)

[@MrJ567]

"The Empire may be autocratic and heavy-handed in enforcing the law, but they keep the transports running." -Some dude in the Empire.

[@ThemindofOZIII]

Chad dude

[@rhov-anion]

I wonder how many even get that reference.

[@kingcrab7837]

@@rhov-anion ;)

[@coffeedust6837]

And keeps them running on time too!

[@smartfrenandromax6651]

And the economy going. Imperial Credits are good in Tatooine.

[@potatoqueen5248]

This whole theory is basically “Ah yes, young man, winning was easy, governing is much harder.”

[@settheshallow8913]

"Which is why I need to keep slaves, hamilton, I need to keep them."

[@btarik.maulana4199]

found a fellow hamiltonian

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s yjyjyn

[@btarik.maulana4199]

What is with all these linked comments?

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

@Btari k. maulana Bots.

[@isfrenchjei]

Big brain Vader don't exits, he can't rule you or bring order to galaxy. Big brain Vader that can rule you and bring order to the galaxy:

[@UnknownOps]

Reminds me of Somalia, after fighting off the government, all the factions began opposing and killing each others for control, the rebellion is no different from this.

[@yoshifan33]

"Only a Sith theorizes in absolutes. I will do what I must." _draws lightsaber_

[@silverblade357]

Gotta wonder how it feels to be part of a thousands strong group that keeps getting curbstomped across the millennia by only two dudes.

[@elegantmonkey6111]

"You will try"

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes" -A Jedi dealing in absolutes

[@craftysmithkeith3653]

@@dontmisunderstand6041 only now have i realized that that statement was an absolute

[@krel7160]

@@craftysmithkeith3653 Have you heard of the tragedy of Darth Kenobi the feeble? He could save himself from death, but not those around him.. not even his most favored apprentice.

[@SystemZ3RO]

When the client says the Empire improves every system it touches, he's not wrong. Just doesn't state who benefits from it. I wouldn't say Mimban, Kashyyyk, Lothal, Mustafar, Geonosis, Ryloth, Mon Cala, or Mandalore where improved by the Empire so much as they improved the Empire of the backs of the inhabitants.

[@SlashCraftJack]

The Empire itself benefits, just not the locals.

[@bowenjudd1028]

What about Coruscant.

[@davidfrazier8320]

Don't forget Illum, Kamino, MonCala, Mandalore, Dantooine, Tattooine.Basically ever planet they've touched. And the fact that the Empire would send scouts looking for any force sensitive child they could to corrupt them to the Dark Side. Sorry this theory still doesn't hold too much water. But hey its from a certain point of view.

[@SystemZ3RO]

​@@bowenjudd1028 There isn't enough content from either Canon or Legends to see how the day to day for the typical Coruscant citizen post Clone Wars/Pre-Endor, though I would imagine it'd still be the same as it was before the Empire for anyone living in the lower levels. AKA Still pretty crappy. Any "good" the Empire brought to a system was only for the best interest of the Empire itself. whether or nor the locals benefited from that was of little interest to the Empire.

[@haicoai6269]

Goh yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@Dreamcasttime]

"Yo, dudes, the empire is pretty chill, maybe you should join it or smt" - Dart Vaider and MatPat

[@moviesandtv6014]

I always thought the quote from Vader at 9:10 mentioned ruling the galaxy... The dark side is power hungry. Consumed by their greed.

[@Jack-is-here]

“The empire improves every system it touches” All the Wookies who were forced into salt mines on Kessel: Am I a joke to you?

[@Zula_The_Squid]

The Empire was pro human and discriminated aliens. Humanity still hasn't even ended racism, in even our highly sophisticated, peaceful and undisputably awesome society so I think you may be putting the bar a little high here. _Wookies are as slave-able big foot kind of animal beings you can get after all. At least, there was no racism within the human species in Star Wars. Something not all sentient beings managed to do in the expanded universe._

[@w0t3rdog]

Well, reports of savages attacking peaceful prospectors dropped on kashykk(cant be bothered to check the spelling) after the nasty hairy things were deported. Perfect for Czerka corp to go in and utilize the planet's neglected resources and turn the planet into a productive member of the galactic community. Seems like improvement to me.

[@spaghettiman970]

Only if your human

[@liamwarner5749]

@Hayden Baker I assure you the wookies and Twileks are getting along just fine.

[@DangNguyen-ph4sg]

aSinloveyunz.link

[@followthewhiterabbit1089]

When i was a kid in the 90s , i didnt understand English, and i thought the Empire was the good guys.

[@archosnachos4937]

Woah must have been a completely different movie

[@followthewhiterabbit1089]

@@archosnachos4937 The rebels act like terrorists... And the empire is, just trying to keep the peace....

[@melvinvanhaperen9555]

lol i really feel what your saying man

[@theconnotationofmemedealer3795]

@Billy Oak Without Palpatine the CIS would have been based as.

[@-RuleBritannia-]

@Billy Oak....

[@homie37]

Yeah and the whole “avoid the outer rim thing” was done by both republics, however the empire put a new job opportunities on (noted several time to be backwater) planets, since there’s a flight academy at least close to mos eisley

[@Rockegg-zu9vk]

At the start of every theory he get music from the game/movie and idk how even does it sound nothing like it but close to it at the same time

[@bassboi02]

Something that wasn't mentioned that is actually integral: the second Death Star was purposely made to look unfinished to trick the rebels. When the battle of endor happened the second Death Star was in fact finished, which is why they had to disable the shield and why Sidious was present in the battle station

[@AzraelThanatos]

Not finished, but the majority of its systems were online. They just delayed the completion of the superstructure in order to complete the trap. It was planned to be finished later on.

[@f-jayplayz6236]

@@AzraelThanatos yeah the weapons were what weren’t supposed to be finished but they ended up being “fully operational” the station itself wasn’t done

[@gangzhu9932]

palpatine did have a fleet of star destroyers jump in later... and he had tons of imperial forces capturing the rebel ground team... and he also did seem to know the rebels were going to comme attack the death star

[@bassboi02]

@@gangzhu9932 Exactly. So he lured them him tricking them into thinking the death star was still being constructed

[@ultimate_capper3643]

This makes literally zero since if you remember HOW they destroyed the second Death Star. They literally went INSIDE an exhaust port that brought them to the core. You would think that if the station was actually finished or if it was made to LOOK like it was unfinished that they would at least remove the problem that destroyed the first Death Star. But no they didn’t, which indicates that it WASN’T finished. Plus do you seriously expect me to believe that they likely would’ve finished the Death Star when the first one took 19 years to build, and that one was significantly smaller than the second one???

[@bierrollerful]

"Fear will keep the local systems in line." - your friendly, freedom loving commander of the -death- 'love & friendship' star

[@morningstar3997]

Well it did so he isn't wrong there.

[@chris999999999999]

So you're saying they should have called it the Health Star?

[@FatheredPuma81]

​@Robert Allan It blowing up wasn't apart of the plan though.

[@Animalace3]

Don't quote me on this, but IIRC that line that Tarkin stated that you quoted was after Tarkin had lost his son and become far more cruel in keeping order than he was before the death of his son.

[@Animalace3]

@Robert Allan Hmm, I guess I'll have to explain more. Before the death of his son, he was actually well liked and didn't really beat down civilians through fear. I said what I did to state that Tarkin went off the deep end after his son died. Does it justify anything? Of fucking course not. It's rather hard to justify suppressing the people through sheer power without very good reasons (which is nigh impossible). Just stating the cause for why he did what he did.

[@alexs1771]

I was always on sith and empire side when I watched these videos u just made me more on their side

[@RazorGaming2570]

I should also mention that leía had less support for the resistance because when it was revealed that darth Vader was her father a lot of people turned their backs on her

[@midgetydeath]

Which is ironically the opposite of how people would have reacted other than a vocal handful. Who would have then been shocked at her being elected in a landslide victory.

[@Shadowreaper5]

Id like to point out that Luke used his "you'll get angry and use your magic" trick not to convince them to join the war, but to stop the Ewoks from killing them all. The Ewoks joined after C3PO did his dramatic reenactment of the events so far.

[@Mike_Dubo]

Was thinking the same myself. This video feels too much like Matt was wanting to make a contrarian video just to get the views.

[@RayShadow278]

@@Mike_Dubo Because it is

[@Enixon869]

@@cryfly1 my favorite is always the "Mario is a Sociopath" Game Theory where he uses a passage from the American instructions manual saying how Bowser turned the people of the Mushroom Kingdom into blocks to say Mario's a mass murderer for smashing all the blocks you do in the game, thing is the very next paragraph in the manual not only says that breaking the blocks frees them but that the powerups you get are "gifts from the grateful mushroom people"

[@karolisg4385]

@@cryfly1 dude stfu atliest he has a unlike you . Plus hes human hes made so many theiries he has to go trought so many things like movies comics , games. Hes allowed to make mistakes

[@CrackedPropane]

@@cryfly1 Well disney being evil isn’t necessarily an unpopular opinion

[@Sakaki98]

“I’m not the only one applying real-world diagnostics to works of fiction.” Been sitting on that one for a while, eh, MatPat? Tell us how you really feel.

[@craiven3527]

Like a proud fascist as everyone should

[@slemmels6362]

@@craiven3527 your joking right?

[@RhineStone46]

What does fascism have to do with it?

[@noelblack8159]

But that’s just a Theory A History Movie Theory Aaand Cut

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

Since you're using the Disney stuff here, you can take one good look at how things go in Rebels and find the empire subjugating, exploiting, enslaving, and murdering innocent civilians several times, and you don't even have to look too closely to see it. There are also a lot of instances of Vader doing totally evil stuff for decades, mostly in comic material, and based on his stated political view of "they should be made to" as Anakin, I seriously doubt how effective he could have been as a ruler. There are also several different stories of the empire suppressing free speech, manipulating trade in shady ways, exploiting the outer rim exactly like the republic it came from, and using a lot of slave labor, especially aliens. It did crack down on pirates more and put down bad rulers on some worlds, but it also destroyed a lot of small governments that were already effective on their own worlds, and for most who didn't live wealthy in the core, it was a very harsh and oppressive regime. The amount of stories of imperial rule subjugating and greedily controlling local people far outweighs all the good stuff it did.

[@carlosriverajr5604]

So I'm kinda understanding the empire feeling toward the republic. So I work in a warehouse. I hand out the equipment needed through out the day as well as other tasks. I just got promoted. So our chain of command is structured with of course the front of the house. Where they deal with customers/order issues/etc. The command structure is broken down by 1 head boss and then 2 guys under him. I'm one of the 2 now(from what I was told I was already at that spot 2 months ago). Then 4-6 supervisor that run 2-1 departments each them self. So obviously I needed training and for a point I did have to listen to them. They did everything they could to see me fail. They resisted change. Helped with nothing and never directly made effort to improve the overall cohesiveness for the worker. Even if I offered up an idea they would say then you do it. In the beginning I did but then I realized they take credit and my rank would fall. So I started saying no. They disrespected me and mainly our company. So now that I just got phased in last week I will take control and in force change to make things overall easier for everyone. I also have to watch my back cause I know they will do what they can to see me fail. It's sad that we had to go to this type of dictoratorship but really they act/are that stupid to govern themselves. Now they look at me like I'm a villain. They (the supervisor w/o a overall boss/over seer) ran it and allowed the place to go 14mill USD debt. Now I'm the bad guy. It makes me sad that they see me like that. I'm a product of there failures and I'm here to help. They see me as an asshole. I try to talk to them and work with them. They don't work with me and tell me do this or do that. Drive me to my breaking and yelling at them point to flinch. I guess one of two things are gonna happen. 1 I get demoted or 2 the company overall will do better. Time will tell. I wish we could all work together but we'll see.

[@MARCUSK298]

They had slavery under the empire.. they committed genocide on geonosis to build the death star

[@an8strengthkobold360]

and the wookies

[@wariorjimenez7306]

Also they never beat the huts there criminals. Order i dont see.

[@anonymousapproximation8549]

@@wariorjimenez7306 Because taking down the mafia in a single city didn't cause any problems _whatsoever,_ much less the interstellar mafia.

[@greenskittles8028]

I don’t see a problem

[@ericposey4124]

They had slavery under the republic too. Maybe not institutionalized slavery, but so widespread that nothing was really done about it. And that's ignoring Droids which I would argue is slavery too. Really what needs to be explored was how the CIS were the good guys in the prequel trilogy.

[@gabrielegenota1480]

"The Weimar Republic was a failure!" - MatPat probably, circa 1939

[@sion8]

"Ooooh!"

[@rickgreenberg1872]

That’s a little redundant. Circa means approximately

[@quackenbloke7871]

True though

[@sion8]

@@rickgreenberg1872 They are referring to MatPat, as he would probably have said had he been in Germany circa 1939.

[@gabrielegenota1480]

@@rickgreenberg1872 Oh wow- I think I used to know what that meant but the endless amount of "fake history' memes since then has made me forget lmao Thanks for the refresher

[@Dwoogos]

Actually the war between the empire and the ewoks started before the rebels even knew about the death star 2 because an ewoks brought some flowers as a peace offering and placed it into the barrel of a stormtroopers blaster, which caused him to think it was trying to jam his gun so it could attack and he killed it which caused the other ewoks to have the empire

[@meprivate6923]

To be fair, it has only been 5 years since the Empire fell. It takes time to rebuild a government and military. Also, this came out before MatPat probably watched Andor.

[@thenexgamer5608]

Matpat: the mainstream movies never talk about how the empire rules Tarkin in episode 4: the senate (democracy) has been disbanded, fear will keep them in line, and to make them even more scared to disobey us let’s destroy a planet

[@haicoai6269]

Goh yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@reubenm.d.5218]

Sourcing Tarkin Doctrine from outside canon is also faulty logic - canon Tarkin is committed to the Death Star (a centralised project) rather than the dispersed use of resources that Krennic advocates for with his TIE defenders

[@sebastianjoseph9628]

I saw this video called “Th Empire Was Right” and the guy showed the clip telling us that the senate was disbanded and power would be given to the local governor’s and that Alderaan was a suspected rebel planet and only had a population of about 2 million, which Obi Wan Kenobi confirmed.

[@JoeBjork]

@@reubenm.d.5218 close, but not quite... Krennic also wanted ONLY the Death Star, no other projects. Tarkin wanted to steal the Death Star project credit/command from him (which he proceeds to do in Rouge One) and so, on the surface at least, supports other projects. Thrawn was the one who thought that the Death Star was a stupid idea and was pushing for the TIE Defenders

[@reubenm.d.5218]

@@JoeBjork Thanks for the clarification. You are, of course, correct

[@benjamindury6580]

You should do a theory on how much the imperial credits are worth.

[@masterjbt]

That’s be nice

[@TheInspirationalMind]

Oooh... I'd totally watch that!

[@LaserBeem]

Yus

[@passarovoador6662]

People spread make this

[@kunyu673]

ya like everyone knows the jedi are bad

[@FRLCA-qc3fc]

I love this episode, and I LOVE THE MEME AT THE END 😂

[@Gen-ZChristian]

Hey Matt, looking back on this video, I’d like to point out the various TV shows that take place during the time of the Empire. Shows like The Bad Batch, Kenobi, and Rebels show the true cruelty that the empire enforces on regular civilians.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

Even though some of those came out before this video, those would be inconvenient for the contrarian opinion he wants to push, so he ignored them in true Matt style :P

[@derpyduck5088]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Oops, your bias is showing. They're all non-canon so including them would be like writing a biography about Blackbeard and including the events of Assassin's Creed 4.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@derpyduck5088 Every single show he mentioned was and still is canon.

[@mikocreer9556]

“You’re sounding like a seperatist”

[@docrofreborn7497]

@@dislikethismusicvideoleave3421 I mean, it is. But why not comment something more meaningful?

[@spider-capgaming1487]

It's Treason then

[@derpmaster2713]

If you discount their military actions, the Speratists were better than the Republic.

[@Nothing2CHere4U]

Plot twist: all yootoobers are cyclons

[@redhood7650]

@@docrofreborn7497 it's a bot spam

[@TitanEaterOfCrayons]

Jedi Requirements Don't give into the darkness: Okay that's fair A clear mind: A little tough for me but okay No family: Hold up

[@rockyseverino9230]

you get to use magic though

[@HambaAllah-ch9so]

@@rockyseverino9230 and laser sticks

[@angelb1318]

Mental illness: Wait a minute -

[@Theunfriendlyneighborhoodman]

I see this as an absolute win

[@daftwulli6145]

if you want a family simply leave the order. Not like that is forbidden or something.

[@hellman403]

All the movies never focused on those details, makes alot of sense

[@cameronholt8240]

Also in Star Wars, rebels are shown as being the good guys BUT in the real world, here on Earth, any kind of rebellion against a government is seen as evil and has to be ended quickly

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

Not really, no. The USA literally started as a rebellion. In fact. almost every single western country right now, has formed its current government through some kind of rebellion or another. Rebellions in Africa and the Middle-east, places where such things still happen today, are usually very morally complex and the rebels are very rarely portrayed as flat out evil, unless they're something like ISIS. Unless you mean: the rebels are portrayed as evil by the government they are trying to overthrow. In which case: well yeah, of course they would.

[@lukecrittell]

Matpat: The ewoks and the empire coexisted in peace! *battlefront 2 ewok hunt flashbacks*

[@alexvazquez2871]

Underrated comment. Only true BF2 fans will understand.

[@mengquensiew3140]

The old PSP ones?

[@leviticusart123]

Holly crap that's exactly what I thought of.

[@randomguythatexists2244]

I guess Matpat is referring to their relationship before the battle of Endor. I think Ewok hunt is after the battle.

[@midgetydeath]

That was just because the Ewoks attacked thanks to Luke.

[@Afflix_]

5:05 To be fair, we never see the Old Republic, prequels Republic, Empire or The New Republic do anything to help the outer rim. The Client clearly hasn’t been living there for long, giving him a sharp contrast to the peace of the Core Worlds.

[@kyleolsen9987]

Although I agree that in general, the empire were the good guys, from the perspective of the mandalorians, they were definitely not. The mandalorians fought the empire not because it was the empire, but rather because they wanted independence. They wanted it since before the prequels, but never really got it. All they wanted was to govern themselves, and because of this, their homeland was massacred and their culture nearly wiped out.

[@marthatsme]

I don’t know man..... sounds like Dark Side propaganda

[@scottypeacock2483]

Nice

[@TheDark1903]

Matt Pat is Sith, confirmed?

[@haicoai6269]

Goh yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@WildEngineerGamer]

I will not be brainwashed by matpats propaganda.

[@muslimpanda5688]

XD

[@katiehelms8903]

In other words, the galaxy needed an Empire that WASN'T ruled by Sith.

[@natoneill3278]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe this was thrawns goal in legends, a government without the influence of the sith, but with a strong chain of command

[@coilledragon279]

Which, ironically, is pretty much what the Empire became in Legends a few years after Thrawn.

[@ghuttsmckenzie4269]

Or Jedi for that matter.

[@jarrodritter489]

@@natoneill3278 yeah in the books even admitted that he was trying to rise to high enough rank that when Palpatine died he would be able to influence who the next leader would be. (He didn't understand that since Palpatine was a Sith Lord he wouldn't die of old age)

[@ZGuy0fSci]

idk, The Sith were kinda right about a lot of stuff in the end, lol.... But yeah, maybe not having those in general corrupted by the use of The Force in charge maybe isn't sucha bad idea but to have it restricted to One or Two people who understand power? yee

[@areebislam2097]

I mean there are more examples of the empire committing atrocities. In Jedi Fallen Order you can see that they're extracting natural resources from Zeffo and Ihum.

[@OwenSimmons-tq9gm]

the vr game star wars tales of the galaxy’s“edge, imperial mission also says the same thing. “what is freedom? to walk to the store and be gunned down by gangsters over a few credits

[@davidlastname1599]

"Alderaan wasn't real tarkinism" the bad guys would never lie.

[@RoXas4878]

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[@davidlastname1599]

@@RoXas4878 wow that really changed my mind thank you RoXas4878

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

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[@davidlastname1599]

@@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 this some trick to get your video more ad cents?

[@unlondonbobby3336]

Alderaan is Aldergone Because it was alderwrong So now it’s alderdone

[@shaketpepper4899]

The latest episode also proved the British colonized the entire universe. Not only does nearly every character speak English, one of the Mandalorians said to "put on some tea"

[@baronvonbork2856]

Fun Fact: UK isn't the country that consumes to most tea it is Turkey

[@sk1ttl3svevo52]

I guess the sun really does never set on the British Empire

[@command_unit7792]

Its galactic basic and other languages are commonly spoken in the Mandalorian.

[@darthcactusthewise4238]

Actually whenever you hear somebody speaking English in Star Wars they are actually speaking a language called Galactic Basic. Galactic Basic is the Lingua Franca of the Galaxy, that's why so many people speak it. You never see any English writing in Star Wars either, just a pattern of symbols called aurebesh that serves as the written language for Galactic Basic.

[@Kartoffel3]

@@darthcactusthewise4238 my question is, why are they called x-wings?

[@d33pblu3]

Fun fact: creating an empire with order as its core value seems to be the main goal of the sith. We see an empire very similar in the MMO, SWTOR, although there the main problem is that the sith order and the actual empire are separate and don’t like each other very much. Palpatine solved that issue by making the sith and the empire one body.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

I mean... clearly not. The Galaxy had a lot of order. It had 1000 years of peace with the Republic. Then Palpie/the Empire orchestrated a war and there has been almost non-stop war and oppression ever since. The Empire has caused more chaos than anything else.

[@jare3459]

Using death star was smart idea in the end. If rebellion did not undermine power of Death Star by cheap shotting it through an exhaust port with the force (like point out a small exhaust port for a huge station amazing because that thing would of hath made a lot of exhaust back to the point) the Death star would have scared of large scale pirating or criminals from controlling a world if risk of controlling a world through crime is punish by the world be blow up would stomp almost all crime empires.

[@retro8696]

I read somewhere that hitting the exhaust port was not the cause of it blowing up it was from it over heating and melting down from trying to fire at the moon.

[@monopoman]

Matpat: "At least the Empire was more competent, that means they are the best option."

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

Bahahahahaha hahaha Boy the Death Star was such a joke ain’t it?

[@sasimitra5871]

Competent at their agenda. Issue is their agenda

[@miguelzurita3216]

The New Republic was bad (in the movies) because of bad writing.

[@haicoai6269]

Gyes ohkzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@georgehackett5187]

Matpat: Now I don't want to take the word of this guy, he's clearly biased Also Matpat: completely believes the word of the literal Grand Moff of the Empire, one of the most powerful people in the galaxy

[@retosius7962]

why lie about how the world was before the empire was? if anything at least that part would be good evidence that the place was complete chaos.

[@levrawonline]

@@retosius7962 Plus it was shown in the Clone Wars that he like Anakin used to be a Republic man, until the system also seemed to force his hand in war to make moves he disagreed on and that in his opinion risked more lives. Anakin and him saw eye to eye in this regard during the war. Something about the way the senate directed them just didnt sit right with him. He is a witness of both systems.

[@daefaron]

@@levrawonline IIRC The Tarkin Doctrine/his extreme views came about after Palpatine manipulated events to have a rebelling system event cause the death of his son, which drove Tarkin into a more extreme stance on order and crushing rebellions through making them scared.

[@Starbunni.]

Lo l ^_^

[@Mrblob100]

@@retosius7962 > why lie about how the world was before the empire was? Cann you not comprehend why he would lie?

[@jeremiahpimentel7561]

Id like to also bring up just how vicious the ewoks became after brought into the rebel war effort, in one of the books a stormtrooper talks about how they ate the stormtroopers and herded them into death traps, luke essential turns them into radical extremists

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

Yes, because they used to be so peaceful, killing and eating everything they find, before Luke radicalized them by... convincing them to not eat his friends. And telling them his story. He didn't even ask them for help, they just did it.

[@music_and_other_random_thi1330]

I think the best thing to happen would have been if Vader was made Emperor. The bad things that were happening under the Empire (blowing up planets and such) were enabled by corrupt guys like Palpatine and Tarkin. Vader, although he was a Sith, still wanted peace and security, as he told Luke in ESB. Planets that were mainly ignored by the Empire (such as Tatooine) wouldn't be ignored, because Vader knows what it's like to be one of the little guys living under people like the Hutts. Also, we know that Vader wouldn't enable anything like the Death Star. So yeah, best system would be Vader as Emperor.

[@fabbe856]

Palatine is one of the most gracious and best leaders the galaxy has ever had

[@moonblaze2713]

Matpat: Of course, we cant just take his word for it, he's clearly with the Empire. Also Matpat: Take Tarkin's propaganda, I mean word, for it

[@falling_vega1257]

Is this not the same doctrine that said the empire should keep everyone in line by using sooo much unnecessary violence that people are too afraid to rebel?

[@NPCMimic]

I love how he also makes sure to talk about extended cannon, but then completely ignores the Rebels cartoon which shows a lot of the issues that normal citizens faced under empire rule on an outer rim planet

[@onlyaraku]

@@NPCMimic yup

[@zaya234]

I think his point is that Tarkin speaks about the goals of the Empire. That in conjunction with the testimony given by The Client makes it more believable, if multiple people say the same thing then that aids in its plausibility

[@thecuredivision]

@@NPCMimic or how the Empire enslaved entire non-human races like the Wookies.

[@mrbaldy1665]

One major thing Matt Pat didnt touch on was Luke's call to adventure was the empire vaporizing his aunt and uncle

[@Charlie94781]

Ben Kenobi would have definitely been extreme enough to murder Owen and Beru in order to deceive Luke into becoming his agent by destroying his family and the Jawas. the Lars Homestead looks as though it was demolished by anarchists most likely Jabba’s thugs who got mind tricked into believing the farmers never paid their water tribute

[@aidanithink4596]

@@Charlie94781 That is just baseless speculation though

[@EGRJ]

@@aidanithink4596 So you're saying it's just a theory?

[@dynawesome]

They had evidence that the droids could be there The Empire is extremely cruel and oppressive, but most often only to those suspected of rebellion

[@aidanithink4596]

@@EGRJ A game theory

[@bbbutter]

Tarkin is actually part of the canon continuity, not legends and The Guns of Kelrodo-Ai IS part of Legends, same for The Essential Guide to Warfare. Also the state of the new republic is very different depending on which continuity you look at, in legends (the continuity you claim Tarkin is part of), the republic actually ended up going really well. In canon, you could say otherwise.

[@inspectorbutters166]

The Death Star 2 was still a military target. When a weapons factory is blown up during wartime, civilians likely died, but these deaths saved countless more lives. (The Emperor had planned to destroy all systems in open Rebellion by the way, which included Mon Cala, a planet with around 28 billion sentient beings on it) Also, Luke didn't tell the Ewoks to fight the Empire, he was about to be eaten by neanderthal teddy bears and wished to prevent that. The Ewoks later volunteered.

[@omnitroph1501]

Matpat: "when talking to Luke, Vader didn't say anything about power or control" Vader: "Together we can RULE THE GALAXY AS FATHER AND SON!"

[@ItsRileyYT]

Unless you look at starkiller What Luke’s training would have had to been

[@Davenzoid]

@@ItsRileyYT what?

[@ItsRileyYT]

@@Davenzoid look it up

[@Davenzoid]

@@ItsRileyYT naw, having trouble understanding your comment

[@ItsRileyYT]

@@Davenzoid it’s deep Star Wars lore You wouldn’t understand