Filter Options for the Sigma 14-24mm F2.8 DN: Review | 4K

[@fashi0nf0ward]

I purchased the sigma 14-24mm after your very detailed reviews. I was waiting for a type of filter and had not liked the 150mm mount. Thank you so much for putting up such in depth review. I’m quite happy with this lens and now going to order the Haida Filter.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Enjoy. It makes for a great combination.

[@SigmaArtisans]

Great review Dustin! Look forward to trying these options out :)

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

You want me to send them over your way?

[@cindyemilton]

May I ask a question. I do real estate photography. I need purchase a circular polarized filter for my Sigma 14-24 mm F2.8 lens. Can you guide me to a good option?

[@HoneyTwee]

I'm in the same situation. Did you find a solution?

[@ArminHirmer]

I just dont like to expose my sensor too often out and about and I change (if) my NDs quite often. but still better then nothing

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

That's fair.

[@KetansaCreatesArt]

You are the first on youtube to review, and bring these filters for 14-24mm Sigma into our notice. 😎 I was thinking about cutting and shaping the square Cokin filters, with the help of the stencil that is provided along with this lens.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Interesting.

[@gkhnbyzt]

Hi Dustin you have really lots of perfect reviews, and this is one of them. You are the only Reviewer that you caused me to buy many products 😊

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

That's either a good or a bad thing

[@gkhnbyzt]

@@DustinAbbottTWI That is good thing :) by the way your banknote resolution chart is very good also better than roger cigala mtf or dxomark test... I appriciate you

[@Carbonisation]

Hi Dustin. If you should choose one of these kits, which one would you choose, taking architecture- (mainly outdoor, sometimes interior) and landscape photography in to consideration? I will use the a7R IV. Don’t bother about other zooms or telephotos, as I will cover that at some other point. But I’m mainly a prime user. 1. Batis 18mm, Loxia 25mm, Batis 40mm 2. Laowa 15mm, Loxia 21mm, Batis 40mm 3. Sigma 14-24mm, Loxia 21mm, Batis 40mm I currently own both the Sigma 14-24mm DN and Zeiss Batis 18mm, but I’m not really satisfied with either. Taking my tests in to consideration, the Sigma seems decentered, whereas both of the bottom corners are softer than the upper corners and that of the Batis. They are relatively soft, while the upper corners are slightly sharper than that of the Batis. The Sigma is just as sharp in the middle, but the Batis’ corners are very even and very sharp most of the time at f/5.6, whereas the bottom corners of the Sigma don’t sharpen up at f/5.6, and I’m not going to stop more down. I wanted to settle down with the Sigma, as the majority of users of this lens state that this wide angle pretty much has the most even performance for any wide angle lens, extremely sharp and well-corrected and generally versatile. And the fact that I will get 14mm with very even sharpness was just another bonus. I can work with 18mm, but if I could get a bit wider with a bit more even sharpness across the frame, that would be nice. But the rendering of the Zeiss, weight, design and access to more filters might make it more attractive to me. The design is unique and attractive to me like most of their lenses. I wonder how they all compare on the a7R IV. It will at least be more noticeable.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

If your Sigma 14-24 is decentered, get it replaced. It's too new a lens to deal with that. I would have recommended your trio of lenses #3 anyway.

[@Carbonisation]

Dustin Abbott Good choice. I will either resell it or return it within next week. But I would be bored only using a zoom, so I thought that it would be nice to settle down with the phenomenal Zeiss Loxia 21mm. I also like the manual focus experience in some aspects, and this Zeiss is really the best one can achieve with wide angles when it comes to the Sony FE mount. And I’m all about true color and contrast when it comes to natural scenes. For architecture, I simply want something wide with edge to edge sharpness. I’m not so worried about distortion, as I’m not right up the buildings, and it’s usually not too big problem with high quality modern wide angles and a bit editting. Thank you as usual, Dustin!

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

A great architecture choice on Sony (the one I use) is the Laowa 12mm F2.8 (Canon EF version) combined with their MSC which gives you a 17mm F4 lens on Sony with 10 degrees of shift in any direction. It makes getting straight lines a breeze...and with great detail and no vignette.

[@Carbonisation]

Dustin Abbott That sounds like a very good option as well. Which adapter would you recommend from EF to FE with the Laowa when wanting 12mm? If I will buy this combination, I’ll use a normal adapter and the one you mentioned. I’ll get a Loxia 21mm with it or keep my Batis 18mm and get a Loxia 25mm. I tested the Sigma again and it is surely decentered. The bottom corners never get as sharp as the upper corners. While the upper corners are just slightly sharper than that of the Batis, the lower corners are a good bit softer. I think my Batis is a good copy, and I kind of want to keep it, even though I would love a Loxia 21mm. If I would get the 21mm, I would want something between 21mm and 40mm, say a 28mm, but I don’t like the 28mm options. But the Loxia 25mm is just as good, and I think this kit would be more versatile for me. I will have to think a bit more. Even though the Sigma could substitute some primes, I just don’t think it’s for me. 25mm would also be nice for some street photography beside my 40mm.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

@@Carbonisation I use the Sigma MC-11. They keep it updated and it seems to deliver a fairly consistent performance.

[@Kenjineering]

They seem to be a solid option for Canon mirrorless users with EF Mount versions of this lens that want to be able to stop down as well as have a polariser (polariser in the EFxRF adapter with drop in filter)

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Fair enough.

[@ianzhao5693]

I think at 6 stop and 10 stop, the green color cast in the skin especially is distinct. When comparing the nd's affect on sharpness, it is the quality of the glass the major factor. At 10 stop the sharpness of the entire photo is reduced because the trees were moving. The effect of reduced sharpness among the nds should be the identical. The thicker coating of the 10 stop should not matter as much. At least I think.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

It's true that it is hard to determine sharpness in long exposures. Too many variables.

[@daveslovenec9770]

This answered all my questions. Thank you so much!

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I'm glad to help out.

[@AC-in3ml]

Do these filters fit with the cheeper sigma 12-24 f4.5/5.0 hsm?

[@larryalboher7448]

Could you describe how you would focus using the Haida 10 stop ND filter for still photos? The image would be too dark to focus with the filter inserted first. But if one focuses without the filter first and then removes the lens to insert the filter, wouldn't you lose the focus?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Surprisingly you can still autofocus in many scenes. Modern cameras are pretty impressive in that regard. If not, magnifying the image is still possible even with the filter attached.

[@gattsgodai3]

Thank you for the review! I’ve been wondering if these were worth buying!

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I'm glad this helps.

[@zevsaint1248]

instablaster

[@barbaraolk749]

Thank you for this review. Did you have a preference between the Haida and Aurora systems? Would you say the sharpness/color cast was better in one of the systems?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

It's hard to comment much on this particular version of the Aurora since it is in prototype form, but I will say this for Haida: the price is cheaper per filter, though you are locked into getting all four.

[@DavisInDuval]

I also did a quick video on the Haida filters. Of course, yours are always better! Love those filters...

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

LOL. I'm really glad these exist, as they are a valid way to filter a great lens.

[@efferoconsultingabprojects3500]

Interesting to see a loss of details. Do you think that there is a difference in this regard when using front vs rear mounted filters?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

It's been my experience that it is hard to put a major ND filter on a lens without some loss of clarity.

[@andreaspetershtc]

I see the biggest issue with this type of lens filter with using the 10 stop filter as AF is typically not working any longer and even MF can be difficult (when not having the possibility to temporarily remove the filter for accurate focusing)

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

That's actually very much lighting specific. In all my test shots I used AF successfully even with the 10 stop filter in place. Modern mirrorless cameras actually are pretty amazing in getting AF in low light conditions. This obviously wouldn't be true if you were in lighting conditions where you are getting a 5 minute exposure or something.

[@Fleet42]

Great review, will these work on the Sony 12-24?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I don't know, though I doubt it. If they did, I suspect they would be advertising that.

[@denoefkes]

Great info and examples!

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Thank you.

[@dr.sommer5069]

Great review Mr Abbott. Hopefully this lens is coming soon for Canon RF.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

So far none of my Sigma contacts have made any noises about RF. But yes, it would certainly be welcome.

[@KetansaCreatesArt]

Sigma can make best performing lenses for Sony than for any other body brand, because Sony has officially given them the E mount technology. For Canon and Nikon, Sigma is still doing it by reverse engineering the mounts unofficially.

[@dr.sommer5069]

@@KetansaCreatesArt Since the sigma art series, all sigma lenses are like a native lens on a canon body, all in camery corrections support included.

[@halvorevensen1840]

Do you have any suggestions of where you can get these but as a polarizer instead of nds

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

A rear polarizing filter is relatively unheard of. Proper polarization requires rotation to the correct angle, and I just don't see how that could happen here.

[@halvorevensen1840]

@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for info and your quick response

[@patriciadortch9136]

I have a Sigma14-24 mm lens for Nikon. After watching your review, I realized the lens back opening on my lens is not squared shape but round. What is the option than? 4/23/22

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I'm not sure that the DSLR version was designed with a filter holder.

[@marklawson3141]

Thanks Dustin. These filters look great on this lens which I am considering. What CPL options would you suggest? Thanks

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

It would probably have to be a square filter system. I'm not sure CP-L is even a great idea, as you tend to get uneven polarization effect with wide angle lenses.

[@vojtechdurkovicphotography2583]

Hi Dustin, is there polarized filter option for these lens?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Polarizing is almost impossible to do from the rear. It requires everything being at the correct angle, and that's not possible with this kind of application.

[@vojtechdurkovicphotography2583]

@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you ✌️

[@rMr.big13]

Hi... love your videos... I just received the Sony 12-24 g f2.8 master , thinking about buying the Haida filters ... but there’s one review at Bh photo for the F4 version- says it’s a hassle to change the Haida filter out and there light leak... did you experience this?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

No light leak, but I can see people finding changing the filters a hassle. Unfortunately it isn't any less hassle to use a front filter system.

[@rMr.big13]

Dustin Abbott did you get to review the new Sony 12-24 f2.8 gmaster?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I haven't yet, but I will.

[@firpofutbol]

Would the RevoRing work on this lens?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I don't know the answer to that.

[@cheeholim2084]

Can you compare this lens to Sigma 14mm F1.8 Sony E mount ?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I'm afraid not. I've got very high demand for new reviews without going back to older products.

[@MuahMan]

How do you focus with a 10 stop rear filter on there?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I was actually able to autofocus in the situations I was in. That may not be possible in very low light conditions, so you may want to prefocus.

[@srivathsak496]

Hi is this rare filter works for Nikon mount as well ?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

This particular setup is for the DN version...which doesn't exist for Nikon Z or Canon RF yet.

[@srivathsak496]

Dustin Abbott thank you so much !! For the info

[@giuseppeamoruso7220]

Hi which polarized filter you suggest for this sigma ? Thanks

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

None. Polarization on wide angle lenses is rarely recommended, as the polarization effect is inconsistent on lenses with such a wide angle of view. Beyond that you would also have to buy a front mount filter adapter to even use one. I'd forget about that idea.

[@giuseppeamoruso7220]

@@DustinAbbottTWI For information . I saw that from 17 mm is ok to use the polarize can you confirm? Otherwise from which focal lengt is ok to use it ? Thanks

[@guillermolopez1356]

Great review, what about CPL filter options?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

CPL is not possible in a rear filter system. You have no access to rotate it.

[@collinstebbins2598]

@@DustinAbbottTWI unless you shoot canon r series. Drop in options are available for cpl and variable ND.

[@GronnOnland]

Hi! Thanks for video! Any option for astro polution removal filter for this sigma lens?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

There is a "haze removal" filter available from Aurora Aperture (powerdusk). I've used one, but it might have been a prototype as I haven't seen it distributed yet.

[@ClatchetAndRank]

Haida recently released a rear lens Clear Night filter

[@Saburai868]

Thank you for all the reviews you do...so helpful! I have just bought this lens, and I am interested to hear your opinion of optical performance comparison to a 150mm front system like the one that Haida makes for this lens. Size, weight and cost aside, just optical pros and cons. Thanks.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

The advantage of a front filter system is to use graduated ND filters or to stack filters. The disadvantages are size, price, and more challenges related to transporting them.

[@invi_carlos]

Great review. Thank you!!

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

My pleasure!

[@steveschnetzler5471]

Looks cool. I wish all the sigma's of that size supported that system. Also wish the lens would read the filter type, and send it to the camera to put in the picture metadata. Also would be cool if the camera warned you that the filter was there, in case you forget.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

That would be cool, though that would require some kind of electronic communication there...and there isn't any tech that supports that at this time.

[@TrevorMcGrathPhotography]

I noticed that you showed the fitting of the filters indoors. I have no doubt of the quality but to remove the lens and fit these filters in the field is asking for trouble. Dust, dirt and water can easily get on the rear of the lens and filter never mind the sensor of the camera. Particularly with mirrorless, I shoot Sony A7's and the sensor is like a magnet for dust. To remove the lens fit a filter is a no go for landscape shooting. Only my opinion, thanks as always for the video

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

There's always a risk with that in the field. The EOS R is the safer bet for rear filters because it has that sensor covering mechanism

[@gopalakrishnnagooty5203]

What about CPL filters. How to solve that

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Doing rear CPL filters is near impossible, You need access to them to rotate them to the proper position.

[@gopalakrishnnagooty5203]

@@DustinAbbottTWI Reason i asked is i did get Sigma 14-24 for canon along with Haida rear filter. But later thought did i make a mistake buying rear nd filter since if i had to use CPL then either go for M15 or get rear adapter which canon sells (which supports only ef lens).

[@partypie1977]

Any rumblings about canon EF lenses?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

They do offer a version for: Compatible with Canon EF 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye USM, EF 11-24mm f/4L USM, EF 14mm f/2.8L USM, EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM, EF 17-35mm f/2.8L USM, and EF 17-40mm f/4L USM Lenses. You can find that here: bhpho.to/2tUh1F0

[@skymakai]

Any rear mount polarizing options?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Not that I'm aware of. You would need to rotate a polarizer to the correct position to get the proper effect, which isn't an option in a system like this.

[@scottster8858]

Are we out of luck for polarizers?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Yes, in real applications. Polarizers rely on being rotated to the correct position, which is basically impossible in this application.

[@scottster8858]

@@DustinAbbottTWI Yes that's true, but it would be nice to have a horizontal polarizer for water, and a vertical polarizer for window glare.

[@TheGottkaiserin]

Some infrared filters would be nice.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

That's true. That could be fun.

[@VictorChu-n4d]

is this a fingerprint magnet?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

not if you primary grab them on the edges.

[@vpr5562]

Thank you! May i ask - what would be the way for saving the front glass of the lens?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

You don't really have any options there. It does have a built-in lens hood that protects the glass along with a special coating on the glass.

[@diatomsaus]

I see a very small amount of blue tint with the filters, nothing scary. It's pretty neutral.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Interesting. That's not what I saw, per se. I saw mostly color neutral

[@diatomsaus]

@@DustinAbbottTWI It's likely a colour space issue, my monitor is calibrated for argb.

[@DerPhiL]

@@DustinAbbottTWI yeah its pretty neutral

[@Robertobinetti70]

Thanks

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

You're welcome.

[@crem.agency]

Hi! One question guys... do you know of any polarizing filters that can be used with this lens?

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Polarizing is tough to do with a rear filter, as they need to rotated to work properly.

[@alexands1]

I've heard reports of field curvature being introduced by these filters (fredmiranda.com) because of their thickness. Did you notice increased field curvature? Apparently, the upcoming Aurora filters are thinner and avoid this issue.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I didn't find a big difference in performance in this test, but the Aurora filters are very good, for sure.

[@alexands1]

@@DustinAbbottTWI Ok, thanks. I am considering the Haida filters despite hearing claims of induced field curvature because the Aurora filters may not be out for a while. I'm glad you did not notice anything major. I believe that Aurora will also offer graduated filters although they may be of limited use since they will be at a fixed level in the frame.

[@piotrknapczyk700]

Nic to nie warte. Przy gęstym filtrze nie da się ustawić ostrości. Mając holder haida, ustawiam ostrość i dopiero zakładam filtr

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I actually haven't found that to be true. I can autofocus in most situations even with an ND1000 attached with modern cameras.

[@MaximPodbereznyy]

I would personally prefer to have CPL filter than NDs, because I can make long exposure without filters, but making polarized image is impossible without a dedicated filter. Anyway, Dustin, thanks for great review! I was really looking after the color cast and thankfully it did not show up

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

You're welcome. Unfortunately polarizing is very, very difficult to accomplish in a rear filter situation.

[@ala-bp9lj]

LOL YOU STILL HAVE THE "INSERT TITLE" stamp on your intro template!

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Yeah - that was a mistake, but unfortunately it will stay that way. I can't go back and fix it now.

[@tfm2934]

To be completely honest, I see quite a significant loss of both colour / contrast and detail, much more significant than the different between a decent and a great lens. I am not very familiar with filters as to judge this loss of quality compared to other filters, but found it quite notable none the less.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

It’s not unusual to have some loss of detail, particularly if there is any risk of movement during a long exposure.

[@mikezupancic2182]

Darn, only for the Sony lenses.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

There is also a Canon kit at the link.

[@mikezupancic2182]

@@DustinAbbottTWI the kit only fits the Sony and L mount version of the 14-24 and not the Canon. The canon kit you mention only works on some of the EF lenses. That is what I meant by only fits the Sony.

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

There's another Canon kit there for other types of lenses. I'm not sure if it fits the Sigma EF mount lens, however.

[@Elgsdyr]

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[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Uggg! I hate when that happens!

[@Elgsdyr]

@@DustinAbbottTWI Templates are great. When you remember to use them. ;)

[@L.Nyquist]

There is better options

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Like?

[@L.Nyquist]

Nisi 150mm s5

[@L.Nyquist]

S5 is a great system i for lenses without filter thread, like Sigma 14-24. .. 20mm.. 14mm.. Sony 12-24 And polfilter :) Best one to you Dustin and Thanks for great videos!!

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

Hmmm, comparing a front filter solution is not really comparable. It's much larger and more cumbersome along with being much more expensive. Many photographers will NOT deal with all that comes with a front filter solution. They do have certain advantages, but also some major disadvantages.

[@L.Nyquist]

Well, does that have the S5 system just need to get the holder for Sigma 14-24 art f2.8. Instead of buying a new system that is not the easy to handel in some situvation...

[@benbrodsky9122]

Do they make this for the Canon EF version??

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

I believe they do now.

[@elastvd7503]

Great review , thank you!!

[@DustinAbbottTWI]

You're welcome.