FINALLY YZ250X E-START!

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Trailbound co

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4 жыл бұрын

The biggest pitfall of the Yamaha 2stroke has been the lack of e-start and there’s finally an option! Do you think it’s worth the upgrade and does this put the YZX on KTM’s level?
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@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think it’s worth the price and does this put the YZX on KTM’s level?
@drewbdew
@drewbdew 4 жыл бұрын
No hydraulic clutch, smaller gas tank, have to add the e start. Seems like ktm is still the winner.
@brandongardner3073
@brandongardner3073 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a well made Good quality product, I reckon it's worth it, you know if money is a issue it's still way cheaper than the KTM.
@goatheads147
@goatheads147 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see an e start option for current yz250x owners. Imo Yamaha has a following. They need to raise the bare and make their own e start version and geared more to hard enduro. Ultimately a 250 and 300 that would compete against the KTM market. Riders would be happy !! Until then, the KTM will have the most bang for the buck imo.
@marcopomponi8482
@marcopomponi8482 4 жыл бұрын
Ive seen a lot of guys over the years try to convert any year YZ250 to a enduro/HS race bike but I would still would take my trusty 08 250xc-w over one. A decent used KTM 250/300 goes for about $3k and most have a title already too, which is a really big deal if you want to register/plate any bike these days just to do a turkey run, enduro, or ride local legal riding area. Long ago before KTM had the current rep it does, I converted/registered a 98 CR250 for off road/enduro use and loved it for many years but you cant convert the MSO to a title on the Jap bikes anymore in most states. Imagine how good that CR would be today if Honda still made and developed it. Kinda hard tounderstand why Yamaha took so long just to get the 250x where it is now.
@stevenllewellyn8906
@stevenllewellyn8906 4 жыл бұрын
brandon gardner or if your into Yamaha more and it’s not really a money issue..I ride with plenty of husaberg and KTM guys, they break a lot...
@justonpreble4083
@justonpreble4083 4 жыл бұрын
Was I the only guy that clicked thinking Yamaha added a factory e-start?
@orijinalgamesta9738
@orijinalgamesta9738 4 жыл бұрын
Juston Preble lol nope..
@mvukkaz4899
@mvukkaz4899 4 жыл бұрын
Click bait brother :p
@Madtigertv
@Madtigertv 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Kyle-pl6rl
@Kyle-pl6rl 4 жыл бұрын
Click bait
@catmanflorida8545
@catmanflorida8545 4 жыл бұрын
yeah I thought it was factory, bummer
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad there's finally an option. But it would be great if Yamaha put on their game face and go a proper e-start, sixth gear, hydraulic clutch, and lights for those countries where you can register two strokes for road use. I know many of us riding eurotrash would change over in a heart beat. 😢
@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 4 жыл бұрын
So true. I bet there’s people at the company that would love to work on the 2 strokes but probably company politics or revenue growth elsewhere that just have the yzx 2 strokes on the back burner
@the_azzard4921
@the_azzard4921 4 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic clutches are discussing
@michaelschuppe7769
@michaelschuppe7769 4 жыл бұрын
All this tec and no how is sitting on Yamaha shelves right now, they admitted to it 20 years ago already, clean burning 2 strokes, e- start, hyd. clutch,..etc. I'd drrop the money in a minute. Hey throw on the WR lighting kit as well, I'll take it off to race motocross my self. YAMAHA WAKE UP!!!! SALES PROVE IT!!! YOU KIND OF ADMITTED TO IT BY THROWING US A BONE WITH THE YZ125X, SCREW THAT OVER PRICED KTM STUFF.
@infidelmat
@infidelmat 3 жыл бұрын
And then pay as much as a euro bike because RnD and more bits. But with a super stiff aluminum frame instead. Oh wait, we were in fantasy land weren't we? 🤔
@glenngertz9429
@glenngertz9429 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a yz125x and YZ250x woods rider. I prefer kick start only bikes for the simplicity and reliability . I'm a weekend warrior and not an Erzberg candidate. I work a lot and travel and time is precious. I also own multiple street bikes that add to the motorcycle maintenance time suck. With my yz's they're always ready to go. Just gas n go. I like that. No chasing corroded grounds or replacing batteries or starters or any parts like that for the life of the bike. I tend to keep my bikes 3-5 years sometimes a lot longer . I do all of my maintenance and keep the bikes in good condition. Now I know someone is going to say how reliable their Euro bike is and I totally get it. If I just owned 1 or 2 bikes and rode hard Enduro exclusively then I definitely would get a European bike. But I am so thankful that Yamaha offers a high quality plain old dirt bike without bells and whistles. I am VERY thankful that the YZ 2t bikes are exactly like they are. My bikes run flawlessly and I need nothing more than what they are. Carburators and Kayaba and I don't want anything else . My 2 cents. Great Channel TrailBound 👍 p.s. I like all bikes and all brands, were I to get say a KTM I'd go for a SX model and modify for woods for the same reasons that I stated above. If that makes sense.
@canadaycouriers
@canadaycouriers 4 жыл бұрын
I think all they would need to do with the 250x is add a e-start, counter balance and a heavier flywheel and Yamaha would easily be able to go head to head with the European bikes. I would be all over the 250x if it came with an e-start.
@aspirinchung1363
@aspirinchung1363 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Canaday yes ,but Yamaha hate to do what you said,I think.
@chrispotter2948
@chrispotter2948 4 жыл бұрын
What's with 2 stroke bikes that aren't counter balanced these days? Hell my 1992 yamaha WR200 was counter balanced. Get with the program. Years ago I bought a cheap broken 1999 250exc and once I got it going I sold it after 3 rides due to all the vibration.
@Madtigertv
@Madtigertv 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrispotter2948 maybe you should try golf lol
@carlatamanczyk3891
@carlatamanczyk3891 4 жыл бұрын
Then switch to a case Reed motor too.
@alexward3007
@alexward3007 4 жыл бұрын
the YZ is already a smooth bike, i would not add the weight of a counter balancer.
@NICKDOG154
@NICKDOG154 4 жыл бұрын
1200 bucks I'll stick with my leg!👍🏻
@urbanadventurer5
@urbanadventurer5 4 жыл бұрын
NICKDOG154 😂
@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 4 жыл бұрын
Hahah ol trusty. That’s free gym time
@aspirinchung1363
@aspirinchung1363 4 жыл бұрын
NICKDOG154 hahahhaha
@stevenllewellyn8906
@stevenllewellyn8906 4 жыл бұрын
NICKDOG154 I do get salty hearing that estart on my buddies rides. Especially when it stalls in awkward spots. I think a auto recluse will solve most of my problems
@NICKDOG154
@NICKDOG154 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenllewellyn8906 When I hear that e-start I look and think what a Princess😂than I kick and think now that's Manly shit
@MichaelAbramo
@MichaelAbramo 4 жыл бұрын
I love the YZ250X. Estart would be a boon but I'm not itching for it. They should put the old WR 1st and 2nd gears in. Give us a true granny gear. Install an aftermarket head like from Apex Technical Innovations. I got mine for $4500 last year super clean and 60+ hours and I'm not looking back. I have put on about 90 hours this year so far
@MrDan1509
@MrDan1509 4 жыл бұрын
A 4Th gear from a 2000 YZ250 fits a 2019 250X and the WR400 and WR426 from 1998 and up. Might get lucky.. Iv been wanting to do the DR gear swap in my 2006 RM250.. The RMX trans wont work and the DR is not compatible anymore I don't think. Some day tho! Lol
@SANDS78
@SANDS78 4 жыл бұрын
For guys with an old yz or buying a cheap used one this is a great option. I love the unlimited places to get parts for these bikes. Love to see one for the 125 as well.
@MotoFamMayhem
@MotoFamMayhem 4 жыл бұрын
That is a sweet kit for the 500's.... Thanks for sharing!!!
@roo450
@roo450 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha needs a 2 stroke enduro with light,e start,hydro clutch.....I would have one straight away 💙
@jamesg5059
@jamesg5059 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s awesome we can go out and buy $2500 yz250s all day long. Spend $1200 to get the estart and now you’ve got a bike you can really go out and thrash in the nasty stuff and not feel bad about it. Just buy another $2500 yz and transfer the estart. It’s brilliant!
@kirkthepimp1
@kirkthepimp1 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a review on the hydra force dent remover I feel like this could benefit all of us and especially you haha! 😂
@dirtbikeenthusiast9494
@dirtbikeenthusiast9494 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video man.
@DirtBikingwithDonnie
@DirtBikingwithDonnie 4 жыл бұрын
If I already owned a YZ250X I would be very interested in this e-start kit. It looks like a good option where there was previously no option, but on it's own, not a reason to buy a YZ250X in my opinion. Now Panthera needs to get to work on a counter balancer kit.
@ponydown4189
@ponydown4189 4 жыл бұрын
It's always nice to have options. :)
@rodneystewart4312
@rodneystewart4312 4 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking Beta , probably the best value
@matthewkantola8638
@matthewkantola8638 4 жыл бұрын
Love my 250RR
@Madtigertv
@Madtigertv 4 жыл бұрын
Beta have a good mechanic
@MrKenaroo
@MrKenaroo 4 жыл бұрын
love the beta 300rr injection..
@nothanks2994
@nothanks2994 4 жыл бұрын
@Egbert Wadman that's probably a good thing😂
@BarnStangz
@BarnStangz 4 жыл бұрын
Lot of butt hurt comments. Check my channel for a HONEST 2018 Beta 300RR review. I really like mine. I think it was a good buy and I have not had any major issues with it.
@hoosierdaddy2468
@hoosierdaddy2468 4 жыл бұрын
I see myself destroying that expensive, exposed unit first drop. I still think Beta or a left over KTM is a better deal overall that is built for what I do. It would be nice to see Yamaha give birth to a bike that doesn’t have MX in its gene pool.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 4 жыл бұрын
Really dying to see a Yamaha 300 2T setup for Enduro.
@ghuether0
@ghuether0 4 жыл бұрын
You probably have nothing to live for
@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 4 жыл бұрын
Got an update the kit does not come with a battery because they cant ship International. "The kit comes with a battery box made to receive the antigravity ag-801 battery"
@Dropsix
@Dropsix 4 жыл бұрын
So another 300$ Canadian lol. Ouch. That’s close to 2000$ Canadian after shipping. Even more after brokerage if you get tagged with em
@benruether8294
@benruether8294 4 жыл бұрын
That pipe on the background bike in the intro has some stories to tell. If metal could scream, lol
@Cheesy_Garlic_Bread
@Cheesy_Garlic_Bread 4 жыл бұрын
Look at the klx250s starter motor placement .The aluminum housing is similar, however clocked back a bit, and the starter motor is rotated 90 degrees so it sits over the crank case tucked behind the cylinder, i think its something they could consider doing that would provide more protection to the starter motor.
@bradl45
@bradl45 3 жыл бұрын
this winter Im looking to buy a used 2019 KTM 300 XC(fingers are crossed for a lectron, lol). They hold their value well, and Im tempted when I see a 250x for sale at much less, yammys rock too!
@BarnStangz
@BarnStangz 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2018 Beta 300RR back in April of '18. It's a great bike for the most part. I love the fact that it has the magic button. I was TOTALLY on the YZX camp, but man, the button is REALLY good to have, just like you mentioned. I'd probably dump my Beta for an FACTORY YZX if it had the button, and more of a engine like my Beta. My Beta is like a tractor when you need it, but can explode with power on top. Also, the adjustable power valve is icing on the cake.
@DanielS784
@DanielS784 7 ай бұрын
Have you had any problems with the electric start since this post?
@BarnStangz
@BarnStangz 7 ай бұрын
The button was flakey a couple of times, but it always would fire up. I have since sold the bike however. @@DanielS784
@endurotruckererniedesjardins
@endurotruckererniedesjardins 4 жыл бұрын
I dont ride a yz250x but I do hard enduro my 2018 yz250, E-start would be nice, 1300 usd is a bit much. I think it would be awesome if we got the Australian version of the yz250xR , they get a road legal version that comes with on-off lights, yup signals and high low beam horn and key switch, BUT IT STILL NEEDS A 6 SPEED, theres times I wish I could crawl a bit slower and go way faster up top. My suspension would be stiff if I was lighter, (I'm 230lbs) so that part I find ok. Counter balancer to smooth out the vibrations would also be lovely, as for the power, I wouldn't ever change that. I love my yz250 s power. It's nice when you gotta grab 2nd gear n get up a gnarly slippery hill where ktm guys are taking off in 3rd.
@justinmathews6630
@justinmathews6630 4 жыл бұрын
enduro trucker Ernie Desjardins the X gearbox is pretty good. 1st and 2nd are exactly the same as your YZ but third is lower which sounds weird but makes that gear of choice through most single track. I’ve clocked the top end at 90MPH. If you need more than that I can’t help you lol. 4th-5th gap is big but really it’s just for cruising.
@Yz_768
@Yz_768 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all should review an apex technical innovations cylinder head
@markhotta9576
@markhotta9576 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a weight comparison? How much would the 250X weigh after all the aftermarket parts?
@MrKenaroo
@MrKenaroo 4 жыл бұрын
At 51 years old.. an estart would be nice.. but the X is so light and easy to ride. I'm not dying for one.. at almost $1300 I'll keep kicking but cool kit.. and I think could be a good addition for some riders.. but I'd love to have that 80 watt stator for lights..
@seanwahl1000
@seanwahl1000 4 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally Chris, I was looking at these again today to see if there was any reviews yet, and nope. I'm just not sure I want to be the $1250 guinea pig. It says the complete kit with the battery weighs 5,7 lbs. but I'm not sure that it comes with the battery either.
@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 4 жыл бұрын
Rizzo44 Rizzo yeah they only told me the weight didn’t answer when I asked about battery 🧐 I haven’t heard anything bad from the CR and KX guys so might be solid??
@gilgarza2903
@gilgarza2903 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely need an E start and hydro clutch. The gearbox should be just like the FX model.
@DJsGarage
@DJsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Can you still have a fww with that starter motor?
@MichaelTucker
@MichaelTucker 4 жыл бұрын
For the same money, you can buy a Sherco SE 250 that is already setup, goes hard and is fitted with similar running gear.
@MXJEFF94
@MXJEFF94 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Tucker agree. If you want something cheaper than just buy a Sherco that has almost all of the same parts. The YZ is just so far behind the times.
@freebikepost
@freebikepost 4 жыл бұрын
First, at 1:43 you have video of my KX500, so I may have a unique perspective. Do I think it’s worth the upgrade and does this put the YZX on KTM’s level? It depends on how much you love your X as to if it's worth it. The X's are well made, comfortable, and reliable. That said they are outdated when compared to a KTM. Bolting a E-Start on the X will not make it perform like a KTM. You will still have a bike stuck at a Y2K level. If you want a Yamaha that performs on the level of a KTM, buy a KTM, Put blue, white, or black plastics on it, have a custom Yamaha graphics kit made and go confuse people with it, it's fun. But if your a true Yamaha fan and love your X, it's worth every penny.
@liamheinzel8213
@liamheinzel8213 4 жыл бұрын
From factory, hydro clutch, e-start, heavier flywheel, skidplate. Would be sweet
@Madtigertv
@Madtigertv 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Sherco
@liamheinzel8213
@liamheinzel8213 4 жыл бұрын
@@Madtigertv except good!😁😂
@Madtigertv
@Madtigertv 4 жыл бұрын
@@liamheinzel8213 lmao Go back to 2005 and take your shitty YZ with you!
@mike300406
@mike300406 4 жыл бұрын
now your back at 1o grand compared to 7250.00
@liamheinzel8213
@liamheinzel8213 4 жыл бұрын
@@Madtigertv Imagine having a bike which hasn't changed since 05 and still hooning past some late model sherco bling! 😂✌
@tannergietzen9539
@tannergietzen9539 3 жыл бұрын
I can get a beta 200 race model and it’s gonna be more reliable starting and proper gearing for hard enduro for just a little bit more
@brock6286
@brock6286 4 жыл бұрын
Cr500 yeah many of us have a cr500 we need to put a E-start on 😂, would like to have one tho 😬👍
@BUZZB8Z
@BUZZB8Z 4 жыл бұрын
Totally appreciate the effort this company is making but Yamaha should take serious note! With this add on, your nearing the cost of an Austrian bike, maybe more after brakes and hydro clutch. Adjustable power valve is a plus as well. I’m a big Yamaha fan but until they step up, most riding Singletrack or enduro will look elsewhere. Come on, Yamaha, step up!!! Ca emissions BS may put the brakes on any potential remodel too. Bummer.
@jefgroff8998
@jefgroff8998 4 жыл бұрын
Not until counter balanced motor and factory e start for me! 👊🏽😉😜
@mecalpsha4473
@mecalpsha4473 4 жыл бұрын
They are in the 20+ year YZ250 club where MORE VIBRATION is better they still believe the myths KTM is not reliable bla bla bla. Meanwhile KTM is #1 in all of the Enduro events with Husky/Beta/ and all of the other EURO bikes.
@arthurkineard7356
@arthurkineard7356 4 жыл бұрын
Beta 250 RR is 8800 retail, Last years model 250 gas gas go for under 8k. So yea I would look elsewhere.
@matthewkantola8638
@matthewkantola8638 4 жыл бұрын
You can get a left over for $1000 less. Got my Beta for 7k
@timmymccheee7213
@timmymccheee7213 Жыл бұрын
For the riding I do, a kicker works just fine for 1300. If/when I get harder into riding, I’ll look for a 300 of sorts.
@eladgabay8543
@eladgabay8543 4 жыл бұрын
If you want hard enduro weapon that have kyb suspension, e start, and a great motor you should got sherco factory..
@nsacco208
@nsacco208 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 21' yz250x. I put a hydraulic clutch on it. I've done alot, but I'd love to have estart. Yes it's more maintanace with a battery but idk if over 1000 dollars is worth it. I'd really like a 6 speed like the yz125x, and a headlight and estart. Same Bike with a 6 speed and headlight would be perfect for me
@user-vs9ju2yt9i
@user-vs9ju2yt9i 4 жыл бұрын
Do a little research. Panthera doesn't have a great name. Also they are using a PVL ignition. I had one on a kx500. they are great until you get them wet, then the next time they get hot they will die. trust me on this. I failed two. kept a spare one ready to go at the truck at all times. if you can keep your coolant temp under 175F you will be ok.
@musicbox4022
@musicbox4022 4 жыл бұрын
Do you run the aer forks?
@canammx125
@canammx125 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 250X and will keep on kicking for that price.
@robertlaube574
@robertlaube574 4 жыл бұрын
I need one for my 2003 yz250 after a leg injury.
@user-zv2fu4um4w
@user-zv2fu4um4w 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Chinese player how to buy this electric dynamic modification kit... Is there any specific details of the supported model year?
@Wolfdog370
@Wolfdog370 3 жыл бұрын
A mate of mine bought one for his new YZ250X and had to wait 6 months for it to get to Australia .. then after fitting it up, the spark is so week with the replacement stator that it won't start .. and its not like he can just take it back to the shop to exchange the faulty item for a working one, cos it comes from Canada .. its a total debacle
@TevisC
@TevisC 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha NEEDS to make us a 2 stroke WR. I really want a Yamaha trail bike. WR 200, electric start, fuel and oil injected. Take my money! I have a hard on for the TE 150. The Beta 200rr is not Fi (oil injected tho) and has a crap turning radius.
@ra64mike29
@ra64mike29 4 жыл бұрын
I think it depends how cheap you can get a 250x for. I just bought a 2017 yz250x up in Canada two weeks ago for $3700 and brought it back down to Washington State. I don't need an e start that bad so im not buying one but i did get a 250x for cheap. They are great bikes for the money.
@curayagmma
@curayagmma 4 жыл бұрын
Is there an E-Start for a 2002 Yamaha YZ250F?
@backyardmoto5556
@backyardmoto5556 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s a mental note with ktm parts... KTM Doesn’t change too much parts between different size bikes... for just 1 example.. my radiator was $300 for my XCW well I ended up ordering the radiator for a 125 spent $114 and fit like a glove same exact measurements.
@jaceyrondeau8133
@jaceyrondeau8133 4 жыл бұрын
It seems like Yamaha is waiting for more riders to buy their "X" series bikes before they really go after that market. Instead of pulling all the stops and making a Yamaha that gives nothing to the KTM. If they would just go for it and use the KTM recipe maybe the sales would be surprising,IMO.
@noypidirtrider3555
@noypidirtrider3555 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they still don’t have e start on this yz2stroke...they been doing estart on there 2stroke like Yamaha dt125 re..
@cesarramos4
@cesarramos4 3 жыл бұрын
Question it’s this kit fits my 2005 yz250??
@tonycarreon4518
@tonycarreon4518 4 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty tough pill to swallow. I'd love to buy one, but at $1200+ then purchase the battery and finally install it yourself. I can see spending $1200 installed with battery, even that seems a bit excessive. I'll keep an eye open for price cuts, would be nice to have, unfortunately too high a price tag.
@davedesmon9470
@davedesmon9470 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna wait until the new model comes out, Honda is supposed to be working on a 2 stroke also. Patience...
@CRAZYEXTREMEENDURO
@CRAZYEXTREMEENDURO 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@catmanflorida8545
@catmanflorida8545 4 жыл бұрын
And to think- that I thought that Yamaha finally moved up into the 21 century, not. Guess I have to stick with my 2013 Husky TXC 310R, e start and kick start, EFI 4 stroke, mapped for unrestricted power, KYB suspension, Excell rimes rims, Brembo brakes, hydraulic clutch, 6 speed wr tranny and it was only $2500.
@trentcarter616
@trentcarter616 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha needs to put a wide ratio gearbox and and e-start and I would buy one that week but until then, ktm/husky is the king.
@urbanadventurer5
@urbanadventurer5 4 жыл бұрын
MotoMadMan 45 it looks like they accomplished something like that with the new 125X. Let’s see if those changes make their way to the 250X in the future.
@seanwahl1000
@seanwahl1000 4 жыл бұрын
Wide ratio gearbox? The x does have one. No problem 85 mph.
@trentcarter616
@trentcarter616 4 жыл бұрын
It doesnt have a wide ratio gearbox 1st, 2nd and 3rd are the same as the moto version, 4th and 5th are wider but going fast doesn't matter when your in the thick technical stuff. If I want or need to go that fast I'll buy a street bike.
@seanwahl1000
@seanwahl1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@trentcarter616 3rd is not the same as the moto. It's closer to second. My point is, fifth is so damn tall you can gear it down to get your granny gear and fifth is still tall enough for the straights. I know this because I own one, I'm not just speculating like the rest of you.
@tomlynn2873
@tomlynn2873 4 жыл бұрын
Going to add another option, Rekluse clutch.
@johnnydangerously9426
@johnnydangerously9426 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy a yz250x . Then I discovered the GPX250 . I love my gpx😃
@JustinTwilley
@JustinTwilley 4 жыл бұрын
Itd be nice to have for sure, but for what it is its way to expensive imo. I own an x with a lectron carb, She kicks sooo easy and honestly with the right fly wheel weight set up, if your stalling the bike you should probably turn around and go home. Lectron carb + FWW = no need for electric start on this bike, because you wont be stalling. Unless they can get the price down around the 400.00 range.
@prestonthomas9406
@prestonthomas9406 2 жыл бұрын
From what I’m hearing there are some issues with the e-starter. It appears to be a fairly complex install also and it’s the first generation, so myself, I’d stay clear of the first iteration. I own a KTM 300xc-w and haven’t ridden anything that compares (including Yamaha). If your concerned about price then by all means go with the Yamaha, but if you want a true expert bike for tight trails then you need the KTM. My 2 cents.
@brianmorrison9066
@brianmorrison9066 4 жыл бұрын
Make it a integrated starter/alternator that is better than 250 watts.
@orijinalgamesta9738
@orijinalgamesta9738 4 жыл бұрын
I got a little stoked when you said e-start for the CR500. Then i saw the photo 🥴. Uh, think I’ll pass
@keffjames2747
@keffjames2747 4 жыл бұрын
Beta in 2013 was the first to design and put the compact starter under the motor and then KTM copied there design a few years later. For almost the same money as the Yamaha you can get a Beta and it's ready to go race.
@rocketj7449
@rocketj7449 4 жыл бұрын
Not worth it for me! I would much rather own a lightly used 250 xcw tpi than pay that kind of scratch! If Yamaha doesnt get with the program, I will be forced to go with KTM just for the e start. Getting stuck on a steep hill, while trying to kickstart.....getting too old for that mess.
@bcj_2265
@bcj_2265 3 жыл бұрын
How are u going to feel the compression if it’s electric start u won’t know roughly how long your piston got left
@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 3 жыл бұрын
Bcj _22 I mean, on ktm I just do them every 150 h and they never look bad but just do it to be safe and consistent
@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 3 жыл бұрын
Bcj _22 I guess I had never thought of that downside to no kick start though
@stanleykania7184
@stanleykania7184 4 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with kick starting ? Never had any trouble !! I don't want the battery tender hook up and the extra weight.. $1200 forget about it..
@damolux3388
@damolux3388 4 жыл бұрын
You obviously don't do anything hard........kicking sucks for the 1000th time stuck on the side of an off camber hill.
@MrBe787
@MrBe787 4 жыл бұрын
You obviously don’t have experience with e start. I used to say the same thing until i rode a bike with e start.
@oldmanmtb1443
@oldmanmtb1443 4 жыл бұрын
A 35 inch seat height and e start...for either the 125x or 250x
@CrimsomSkies
@CrimsomSkies 4 жыл бұрын
The YZ really needs a 6th. I wouldn't ever consider buying an off-road bike without one. For me, it's more important than an electric start.
@adambatchelder4121
@adambatchelder4121 6 ай бұрын
I think its still better off to buy a 12 to 16 ktm W than a newer Yamaha and try to make something its not out of it . Especially if you like the hard stuff. I've got a friend that rides a Yamaha X and it's not a bad bike but way more mx than our ktm ws
@MXUnion
@MXUnion 4 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@tylerwallis5961
@tylerwallis5961 4 жыл бұрын
these still arnt out??
@mihaidobrescu7430
@mihaidobrescu7430 4 жыл бұрын
You also need bigger flywheel, and position of the e.start is badd. 90 angle like the old 2010-2016 ktm. Not good.
@craigdavies8099
@craigdavies8099 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Panthera starter on my CR500, if their system can reliably start a 500 starting a 250 will be a doddle... I'll be the first to admit the Panthera kit is far from perfect, but the ktm failed because it was very poorly designed/built, not the layout. (Think cheapest option on the most expensive bike, WP suspension anyone...) Have you looked at a YZ250? Where else do you think Panthera could put a starter and gear reduction? Putting a starter underneath, or anywhere else requires a complete engine case redesign. Then a new YZ would be the same price as a KTM as they recoup the developement costs.
@spacejaime
@spacejaime 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely has to come with the battery for that price. I wouldn't want a separate purchase. As for the YZ250X, Yamaha is not going to add a sixth gear, but they can lower 1st and 2nd gear and replace the rear sprocket with one or two extra teeth, so that 5th is closer to a 6th gear, while maintaining 1 & 2 gears churning down low.
@spacejaime
@spacejaime 4 жыл бұрын
I meant to say one or two LESS teeth on the rear sprocket.
@seanwahl1000
@seanwahl1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@spacejaime Have you ridden an x? 5th gear is very tall.
@spacejaime
@spacejaime 4 жыл бұрын
@@seanwahl1000 - No, but thanks! That was my best recommendation to spread out the gears.
@carlatamanczyk3891
@carlatamanczyk3891 4 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with Euro 2 strokes.
@SeatTime
@SeatTime 2 жыл бұрын
How has this evolved? Still available? Riders love 'em, hate 'em or want more of 'em?!?!?
@krazykozey2259
@krazykozey2259 2 жыл бұрын
I spun my right leg around on my 1991 cr500. I unfortunately will never Kickstart anything again. Want to buy a 250r atc or tri250 and no electric start.
@GoneRidingPartsCom
@GoneRidingPartsCom 4 жыл бұрын
That's amazing engineering from this company, so why can't Yamaha do it ?? They knew years ago KTM had these features.
@lenbong1234
@lenbong1234 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that Yamaha was finally putting e -start on the bike not an aftermarket option. Doesn't surprise me tho. As much money as KTM makes in the Enduro market you'd think Yamaha would invest in some R&D to have a E-Start ,hydrolic clutch, better gearing. I know the frame and suspension feels right so it wouldn't take much they have a good foundation. Just doesn't make sense to me guess they just love there motorcross which KTM kicks there ass most the time there too
@01AceAlpha
@01AceAlpha 4 жыл бұрын
Forget the estart and get a new pipe for the KTM! LOL
@user-zv2fu4um4w
@user-zv2fu4um4w 4 жыл бұрын
How much do I want to buy there?
@Jacare1973
@Jacare1973 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a great idea but the quality isn’t there using a Chinese starter motor off a Chinese quad. Also the gears coming off the motor wear out quick. Unfortunately all round poor engineering at a high cost.
@martyscossabaggi7118
@martyscossabaggi7118 4 жыл бұрын
for that price i go with the auto clutch from rekluse.
@Madtigertv
@Madtigertv 4 жыл бұрын
For that price you could buy a whole moped
@Burner-Adventure-Chronicles
@Burner-Adventure-Chronicles 4 жыл бұрын
almost got excited. Thought that Yamaha got off their bums and brought the bike into modern tech....'as I am about to move from my WR450 to a Husky 300TX....would have preferred to stay team Blue, but...looks like it isn't going to happen.
@risingeagle915
@risingeagle915 4 жыл бұрын
I got a bad right knee but for $1200 I’d rather kick! Kinda takes away from the price advantage of the YZ!
@enduronorthnz6437
@enduronorthnz6437 4 жыл бұрын
in 2016 the south africans had e start on the yz250x , can be found on the net
@MichaelAbramo
@MichaelAbramo 4 жыл бұрын
It was a dealer that designed and installed them. Not Yamaha
@endurotruckererniedesjardins
@endurotruckererniedesjardins 4 жыл бұрын
Yup he's right. They were hoping YAMAHA would buy the design. Very expensive
@greg657
@greg657 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha has to give me incentive to buy a new X. Gonna keep riding my 16 till its worn out. Get asked all the time what I'll buy next, gonna stick with the YZX.
@TimberTrainer
@TimberTrainer 4 жыл бұрын
Cool concept, but I would rather have a used KTM 300XC-W for the same price.
@tomlynn2873
@tomlynn2873 4 жыл бұрын
After reading all the comments, sounds like everyone wants a ktm or husky. Seems to me counter balance and e-start from the factory I going to the price tag right up there with the Euro bikes. So I say pick your poison.
@jaredthompson8188
@jaredthompson8188 4 жыл бұрын
What it needs is the right rider
@offroadtrailrider77
@offroadtrailrider77 4 жыл бұрын
Add estart and a counter balancer and I will be interested.
@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 4 жыл бұрын
KTM Trailrider ugh I know they’re falling behind more and more. I hope they see the 2t comeback and get on it! I want more options
@offroadtrailrider77
@offroadtrailrider77 4 жыл бұрын
Trailbound co my 2 05 YZ 250’s just got replaced with 2 18 KTM 250 xc’s. I got tired of waiting on Yamaha.
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 4 жыл бұрын
Starter looks like it came off a truck 😳 How much does that baby weigh??? 5kg?
@noControl556
@noControl556 4 жыл бұрын
For that I would just buy a 250 XC and do a SSS swap on the forks. You can buy used KTM's too so not really fair to compare that way
@TrailBoundco
@TrailBoundco 4 жыл бұрын
noControl I meant the yz250x were 5500 new in the shop, just older model. I haven’t seen a new back year ktm for that low. Closest would be the SX and you’re still out am e start
@noControl556
@noControl556 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrailBoundco ahh my math is off.
@chrispotter2948
@chrispotter2948 4 жыл бұрын
Best I found sticker price 2019 250xc in sept was 7500.
@noControl556
@noControl556 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrispotter2948 Yes my math was off, too many beers, meant to say that if I were to spend an extra $1,200 to get e-start and SSS forks, I would rather put the money into the KTM and have a better e-start system
@MrBe787
@MrBe787 4 жыл бұрын
I was all about excited for a minute. Expensive aftermarket crap.
@cliffanderson7544
@cliffanderson7544 2 жыл бұрын
Ive heard nothing but problems. I would wait until they get it dialed.
@eddiebelly5534
@eddiebelly5534 4 жыл бұрын
2020 YZ250X in Australia $12 999 😝ouch. Then to add decent size fuel tank, and this e-start kit ( with the price conversion to U.S. dollars for us Aussies and shipping) definitely not worth it for me👎 when you can get a 2020 KTM 300EXC for $15 500 in Australia. Also no registration availability in Australia for the YZ's or YZX's 👎👎👎
@scottfast03
@scottfast03 4 жыл бұрын
Now it will be another 2 years before they give it a juice clutch and another 2 after that for counter balanced. And I’ll be dead before they have a 300. 😂😂 Yamaha just isn’t investing in these bikes like KTM, Husky, Beta, Sherco.
@henrydruz1946
@henrydruz1946 4 жыл бұрын
I won’t get one, great idea but way over priced still. I think the YZ is still just a motor cross bike and a all around good one at it
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