Find all x ( square-root equation)

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@m.h.6470
@m.h.6470 Ай бұрын
Solution: √(x²) = |x| As such, the equation can be written as: |x + 3| + |x - 2| + |2x - 8| = 9 The critical points of this equation are: x < -3, because all terms will be negative x < 2, because the second and third term will be negative x < 4, because the third term will be negative as soon as x ≥ 4, all terms will be positive case x < -3: -(x + 3) + -(x - 2) + -(2x - 8) = 9 -x - 3 - x + 2 - 2x + 8 = 9 -4x + 7 = 9 |-7 -4x = 2 |:-4 x = -1/2 → not in valid region, therefore no solutions case -3 ≤ x < 2: x + 3 + -(x - 2) + -(2x - 8) = 9 x + 3 - x + 2 - 2x + 8 = 9 -2x + 13 = 9 |-13 -2x = -4 |:-2 x = 2 → not in valid region, therefore no solutions case 2 ≤ x < 4: x + 3 + x - 2 + -(2x - 8) = 9 2x + 1 - 2x + 8 = 9 9 = 9 → valid, so any value 2 ≤ x < 4 is a solution case x ≥ 4: x + 3 + x - 2 + 2x - 8 = 9 4x - 7 = 9 |+7 4x = 16 |:4 x = 4 → valid So the valid solutions are x = [2, 4]
@platypi_otbs
@platypi_otbs Ай бұрын
I set the equation up wrong so I watched the video instead of finding the answer.
@Grecks75
@Grecks75 Ай бұрын
Solution: The equation with radicals can be equivalently written in terms of absolute values: |x + 3| + |x - 2| + 2|x - 4| = 9. I suppose we're solving for real numbers x. Then we have 4 cases to consider in total, related to the branches of the absolute value function: (A) x < -3, (B) -3
@larswilms8275
@larswilms8275 Ай бұрын
If we suppose that x is a complex number, that would mean that x = a + bi. For the real part of the equation the critical points are the same and the solution are the same. for the imaginary part (+bi) for all the radicals the critical point is b = 0. there for either all the radicals are positive, negative or 0. So they either all ad up subtract or do not exist. In the first two cases we will always be left with a imaginary residual. Therefore only the case where b = 0 will give valid solutions and we can reduce the problem to the real numbers.
@Grecks75
@Grecks75 Ай бұрын
@@larswilms8275 Sorry, but this is not correct. I was pretty sure there exist complex solutions with a non-zero imaginary part, and it turned out to be true on further analysis. Here's one: x = 2 + i. If we take the usual definition of the single-valued complex square root function (as the principal branch with non-negative real part), we have: sqrt((x + 3)^2) = x + 3 = 5 + i, sqrt((x - 2)^2) = x - 2 = i, sqrt((2x - 8)^2) = -(2x - 8) = 4 - 2i. Their sum is exactly 9 + 0i as needed for the equation to hold. Of course, there are many other solutions with non-zero imaginary part, and what makes it worse is that the solution set isn't even bounded, contrary to the real numbers case! (Because the imaginary part of a solution can grow without bounds.) The situation in the complex plane is a lot more complicated: The sqrt() function takes on complex values (by the way, it is well-defined for _all_ complex numbers), we have to decide on a branch to make it single-valued, the relation sqrt(x^2) = |x| does not hold anymore (for the complex modulus), we cannot make a case-by-case analysis as easy as in the real numbers situation, because complex numbers cannot be ordered, etc. etc.
@Grecks75
@Grecks75 Ай бұрын
@@larswilms8275 I now have a description of the full solution set in the complex plane: Solutions have the form x = a + ib with the real part a taking values from the closed interval [2, 4] (as in the real numbers case) and the imaginary part b being any real number if 2 < a < 4, or any non-negative real number (b >= 0) if a = 2, or any non-positive real number (b
@nothingbutmathproofs7150
@nothingbutmathproofs7150 Ай бұрын
Once you get a possible answer for x, if it is in region that you are working in then that x value will be a solution. If the x value you got is not in the the interval that you are working in, then that x-value is not a solution. For region A, you got x=-4. Since x is region A, then x=-4 will work. Since it didn't work you need to go back and find your mistake. Remember, doing arithmetic in public is not a good move!
@MikeGz92
@MikeGz92 Ай бұрын
In A region, there is a sign error. The reduced equation is not -4x-7=9, but -4x+7=9 that gives x=-2/4=-1/2, which don't belong to the interval x
@shmuelzehavi4940
@shmuelzehavi4940 7 күн бұрын
That's right. There are actualy two errors and the second error cancels the first one (x = - 4 would be a valid value if it were arithmetically correct).
@StaR-uw3dc
@StaR-uw3dc Ай бұрын
While Testing A we get -4x+7=9 i.e. x=-1/2 which is out of region A (x
@georgesbv1
@georgesbv1 Ай бұрын
actually the absolute value is contiguous in 0 as well. So he can bend the rules on those intervals.
@StaR-uw3dc
@StaR-uw3dc Ай бұрын
@@georgesbv1 I agree, but it would be more clear when the regions be disjoint but covering the whole axis.
@fredesch3158
@fredesch3158 Ай бұрын
How's your handwriting so beautiful?? Dude, congrats, I find it so cool when people have good handwriting in blackboards, it's so hard, and you make it seam so easy!
@tanguc007
@tanguc007 Ай бұрын
THere is a typo in Testing A solution. Can we check it again..
@keithrobinson2941
@keithrobinson2941 Ай бұрын
+7, I think, on the top line for region A. So we test -½, which comes to 14, not 9; so it doesn't work anyway.
@Mrcasgoldfinch
@Mrcasgoldfinch Ай бұрын
I made the same error too before watching the video, there must be some active spots on the Sun today:-) Or a quantum entaglement...
@davidgagen9856
@davidgagen9856 Ай бұрын
It's +7
@ibrahimkonefilsdiarrassoub5736
@ibrahimkonefilsdiarrassoub5736 Ай бұрын
❤ you make me fall in love with math, everyday I watch your videos ❤...Thanks ❤
@hacerkayal1740
@hacerkayal1740 Ай бұрын
Sir, your solution style is so cool❤ thanks❤
@Psykolord1989
@Psykolord1989 Ай бұрын
Before watching: So, we have to test 6 cases. See, √(a+b)^2 can be either a+b or -a-b. It's probably easiest for us to write this using piecewise functions. First, let's find the spots where any term equals 0. We do this because these will be our critical points. For √(x+3)^2, this point is at x=-3. We will have -x-3, x< -3, or x+3, x≥-3. We will see similar piecewise functions for √(x-2)^2, giving us (-x+2, x
@0lympy
@0lympy Ай бұрын
Normally you don't need to validate solution by putting it into the original equation. As all transformation were equivalent within the regions given, there is no way to get any side roots. So you only need to check, if the solution fits the current region. Thus, solution A is wrong as it doesn't fit (-INF; -3) region due to sign mistake (+7 / -7). Or else, for consistency, you had to check the whole [2;4] region. It was a challenge for me to get, where did the side root -4 in region A came from :D
@tezeralorisso4823
@tezeralorisso4823 Ай бұрын
The solution A is wrong twice. 1st: instead of -7 you used +7 2nd: the solution x=-4 fits the condition . ie, you were testing the region where x≤-3 Hence -4≤-3 so that it was a good sign to check.
@carterhyde908
@carterhyde908 Ай бұрын
As nice as it is watching a more edited channel's flow, it feels more impactful having all the little mistakes left it. Makes my errors seem that much more reasonable.
@jay_sensz
@jay_sensz Ай бұрын
-x-3-x+2-2x+8 is -4x+7, not -4x-7. The solution of -4x+7 = 9 is x=-1/2, which is outside the interval A (x
@maxvangulik1988
@maxvangulik1988 Ай бұрын
|x+3|+|x-2|+2|x-4|=9 case 1: x>=4 4x-7=9 4x=16 x=4 case 2: 2
@BartBuzz
@BartBuzz Ай бұрын
Such a straight forward solution.
@pierreneau5869
@pierreneau5869 27 күн бұрын
Thanks to share such exercise. I'm surprised by the writing x = [2;4]. Should be more correct x € [2;4]
@shmuelzehavi4940
@shmuelzehavi4940 7 күн бұрын
That's right. Or, {x} = [2 , 4].
@srisaishravan5512
@srisaishravan5512 Ай бұрын
Sir could you please start uploading videos on integration, your videos got me into calculus and i am unable to find such amazibg videos so please start uploading calculus
@dan-florinchereches4892
@dan-florinchereches4892 Ай бұрын
A modulus question. Not bad. I X
@ryhorabramovich1457
@ryhorabramovich1457 Ай бұрын
I have shorter solution. |x+3|+|x-2|+|2x-8|=9 Since |x|=|-x|, then |x+3|+|x-2|+|8-2x|=9 Further, |a|+|b|+|c|=a+b+c a>=0, b>=0 and c>=0 (vectors' property). Because x+3+x-2+8-2x=9, then x+3>=0 AND x-2>=0 AND 8-2x>=0, and answer is x in [2; 4]
@shmuelzehavi4940
@shmuelzehavi4940 4 күн бұрын
You still have to prove uniqueness.
@allanmarder456
@allanmarder456 Ай бұрын
Rewrite the equation as abs(x+3) +abs(x-2) +2*abs(x-4) - 9=0. For x=>4 the equation becomes x+3 +x-2 +2x-8 -9 =0 or 4x=16 So x=4 is the only solution and no solution for x>4. For x>=0 and x==0 and x=-3 and x
@alansun70
@alansun70 Ай бұрын
It cancels if the square is outside the radical.
@Metaverse-d9f
@Metaverse-d9f Ай бұрын
Use triangle inequality. abs(x)+abs(y)+abs(z)≧abs(x+y+z),when taking the equal sign, every term has the same sign. The answer will appear very quickly.
@Pigemerzofficial14949
@Pigemerzofficial14949 Ай бұрын
There is no need to testing after drawing line just place iniquities on A,B,C,D, after this coman area is answered
@RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
@RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs Ай бұрын
Sqrt[(x+3)^2]+Sqrt[(x-2)^2]+Sqrt[(2x-8)^2]=9 2≤x≤4 x=[2,4] final answer
@jakehobrath7721
@jakehobrath7721 Ай бұрын
This would be simpler and easier to follow if you took the pivot points and arranged them as such: x
@tcmxiyw
@tcmxiyw 29 күн бұрын
The solution when solving over region A is x=-1/2, which you can throw out without testing because -1/2 is not in region A.
@eowmob
@eowmob Ай бұрын
Like your videos, your explanations and presentation. But, do me as a mathematician a favor: Don't write x=[2,4] x is a scalar, a real number and [2,4] an interval or a set. Write sth. x element in [2,4] (does this work: x &isin; [2,4]) or the set of the solutions is [2,4]. Thx ;-)
@bhagyashrigadekar8618
@bhagyashrigadekar8618 Ай бұрын
I liked and commented video first 😎 And that point 2.0000001 made me laugh 😂😂
@surendrakverma555
@surendrakverma555 Ай бұрын
Thanks Sir 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@michaelkeffer504
@michaelkeffer504 Ай бұрын
I get -4x +7=9. That gives us -4x=2, and finally x=(-1/2).
@ThePayner11
@ThePayner11 Ай бұрын
Am I right in thinking the solutions are an inequality where 2 ≤ x ≤ 4?
@ruchirgupta610
@ruchirgupta610 Ай бұрын
I am a big fan of you, brother!
@hervesergegbeto3352
@hervesergegbeto3352 Ай бұрын
Merci professeur
@ssaalktbi2970
@ssaalktbi2970 Ай бұрын
You teach algebra?
@shikigranbell1780
@shikigranbell1780 Ай бұрын
I think I’m in love with math
@Rednodge_9
@Rednodge_9 Ай бұрын
me too
@dieuwer5370
@dieuwer5370 Ай бұрын
Why x = [2,4] and not x = [2...4]?
@d.yousefsobh7010
@d.yousefsobh7010 Ай бұрын
7-4x=9 then x=-0.5
@mdashrafulahmed2820
@mdashrafulahmed2820 Ай бұрын
isnt this a reupload
@georgesbv1
@georgesbv1 Ай бұрын
problem yes, solution is different since he ordered the switch points and obtained fewer intervals.
@akumahgideon9585
@akumahgideon9585 Ай бұрын
Reconsider how to write the final answer. X is an element of the interval [2,4] may be more correct instead of x=[2,4]. The interval is a set.
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 Ай бұрын
Do not write a capital ex. X and x are different variables.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Ай бұрын
In some parts of the world, the comma can mean the same thing as an ellipsis, i.e. x=[2,4] is x = [2..4].
@RkMaliksNewtonClasses
@RkMaliksNewtonClasses Ай бұрын
Can be done just by looking only without doing so much calculation
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons Ай бұрын
Explain
@Straight_Talk
@Straight_Talk Ай бұрын
What’s the point of having a squared term inside a square root sign? You won’t win the Fields Medal for appreciating they cancel each other out.
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 Ай бұрын
They *don't* cancel each other out! Square root(x^2) is not equal to x. Suppose x is negative.
@Straight_Talk
@Straight_Talk Ай бұрын
@@robertveith6383 Petty point scoring in the extreme.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Ай бұрын
@@Straight_TalkThis video is too advanced for you.
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