Finding the Ultimate Gain Tone by Stacking Overdrive Pedals - Is More Always Better?

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👆 Stacking overdrive pedals can be a major part in creating your unique tone but can go wrong if not done correctly. Today, the Captain & Chappers test out some of Andertons most popular overdrive & distortions to find out which pedal combinations stack best! ➡️ tinyurl.com/y5tf6fns
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In the shootout of all shootouts, Rob & The Captain put some of Andertons' favourite pedal brands to the test to find the best combination of gain pedals! Will more pedals equal more tone? How do you stack overdrive pedals?
Find out as the guys test out different combinations from BOSS, JHS Pedals, Way Huge & more so you know exactly how to create the perfect gain tone!
↪️ Episode Guide ↩️
» 0:00 Stacking Overdrives with Rob Chapman
» 0:41 How to Stack Overdrive Pedals
» 1:51 Which Gain Pedals Did We Choose?
» 4:08 Russian Pickle & Tube Screamer
» 4:50 Jam Pedals & Tube Screamer
» 5:47 Tube Screamer & EP Booster
» 6:49 Tube Screamer & Looking Glass
» 7:29 Let's Add 3 Pedals...
» 8:49 How Does It Sound With Fuzz?
» 10:25 Blackbox, Jam Pedals & Tube Screamer
» 13:00 Jam Pedals & Centura
» 14:41 BOSS Metal Zone With 4 Extra Pedals
» 20:14 Stacking 5 Overdrive Pedals
» 27:30 Which Pedals Would Rob & Lee Choose?
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[@Unexplained_Bacon]

You know what would've stacked amazingly well here? A tuner. 😉

[@guitarsimon1]

Head Room That’ll be Rob smacking the strings like they spat in his coffee

[@nickm.9474]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard robs guitar be in tune. No matter what he’s playing. Haha.

[@TheComedyGuitarGuy]

All of the demo guitars are set up with 9s or 10s and Rob usually uses 4mm picks and 12s I think. He really twats the strings hard.

[@Glamosapien]

Nick M. Maybe your ear isnt trained enough

[@gdasilva]

right? it's awful sonics. Everything in this video sounds like a minor II. ugh.

[@rasputinsbeard3899]

Chappers:"How about the metal zone, into...." Lee: *grabs anything other than the metal zone, until he realises Rob isn't going to let it go*

[@deutschmanxspike]

Rob - Can we try the Metal Zone? Lee - (avoiding the subject) let's just try this one......

[@Aokitadamitsu]

lol

[@christurner2398]

I like Rob's opening statement "so shall I talk about my expectations?" I think I'm going to start all conversations with that from now on

[@gooby1648]

Chappers: Metalzone! Lee: Pls no...

[@benleese7297]

Thanks for this video guys! I've been looking at loads of stacking videos but this is by far the best for me. I'm not as knowledgeable about stacking as if like to be and this has really helped. Thank you so much.

[@dafud77]

Who is this imposter?? He said “less gain.”

[@ryanspencerlauderdale687]

ALL THE GAINNNN!!!

[@petereardley8800]

SLAYERRR

[@johnnybrown9581]

NO MIDS

[@gprz843]

You could tell the Captain didn’t want none of the Metal Zone. Chaps said “let me try the metal zone “ at least 4 times before Lee run out of options.

[@matttreacy4068]

Once upon a time Rob learned to bend a note.... he's been bending it ever since...

[@daniquewesterveld]

When I saw the thumbnail for this video, I honestly thought it was Lee and Dan Steinhard. 😂🤣

[@theparttimepunk]

The reason you are having trouble with the Rattler is that you are using a crunchy amp. The Rat was designed with clean amp in mind. Just my take.

[@EliseoCaporale]

But wasn't The Rat used for boosting already cranked Marshall's in the 80s?

[@gloreano]

The Part Time Punk I agree with you. I own a vintage RAT and it sounds great through a high headroom clean amp. When used with an already crunchy amp, it in my experience tends to lose some of its definition. Just my two cents.

[@theparttimepunk]

@@EliseoCaporale But Rob wasn't using the rat as a boost into an amp. He has using it As a gain stage into a gain stage into a gain stage. I find that distortion pedals react like and amp more than overdrive pedals do.

[@RealGingerTea]

2nd this. The only thing you should stack into a fuzz or distortion is a boost. If you're going to stack, don't gun every pedal, turn all the gains down or you miss the point. USE THE VOLUME CONTROLS. I use Boost>"transparent drives">Fuzz>Distortion(Rat)>Pre amps/Amp, but the fuzz and Rat are never on together. Only stack a fuzz if you want to sound like you've broken something \m/

[@EliseoCaporale]

@@theparttimepunk yup, It's obvious that a Rat, which is a pretty trebley distortion pedal is gonna sound bad used as a gain stage to another pedal. But I actually think the Rat can be used as a boost for Marshall style amps by itself, just maybe turn down the treble knob on the amp, using humbuckers and the bridge pickup.

[@Bjornandhisguitar]

I have to congratulate you on this video. A perfect demonstration of how NOT to use overdrives

[@VintageRadius]

Well that was brave. For our 600k subscribers let’s just plug in random pedals and twist knobs whichever way and see what happens. How about three gain pedals stacked in whatever random order; sure why not? Most established YT channels wouldn’t have the balls to fail this hard 😂 But I did stay to the end and will be back 🤘🎸

[@chuddleywindston]

yeah, rob and lee aren't the best at finding good tones during these videos lmao

[@nickm.9474]

Stack low gain into a higher gain pedal. Also, don’t use so much drive from each pedal.

[@imacashew.]

Yep 👍🏻

[@ijahtom4129]

Genau

[@stanislavmigra]

There are lot of ways how to do this. Some pedals with low gain can give you nice volume lift or EQ shape, when putted after high gain pedals. Klon or TS pedals excels at that.

[@ithemba]

@@stanislavmigra precisely. overall the last pedal in the chain will shape the sound the most. I use TS to tame fuzz / distortion highs and for the mid-boost in the band-setting more often than not.

[@scottwinning7484]

Yup, I have actually have thatlooking glass last in the drive chain, it doesn't make any noise and shapes the drive like a pre amp, awesome always on pedal - definitely not for metal though😁

[@AaronJCourtney]

SUPER insightful. Thank you!

[@timothymckane6362]

It's been a while since that mug finally gets to disappear on 4:04. Thanks, Rory.

[@cchavez248]

This was a very interesting episode but it was like watching someone doing a cooking show while they were trying to come up with a new recipe! I loved this but I would also love to see a follow-up where you show us any favorite combinations you come up with through experimentation you do before the next installment of stacking....

[@hutchfromba]

Thanks for dropping that knowledge on me. Blues On....💙

[@moyingling]

Ahh...Chappers and The Captain together again! Roll the appropriate RnB song in your head and enjoy!

[@simonedstrom9109]

This episode should be called: "Randomly turning on and off pedals"

[@nekoroms]

Basically the video in one sentence "Lee dodging the metal zone and ultimately failing"

[@Aokitadamitsu]

LOL Lee at his happiest when pushing the buttons, no metal zone.. Great video guys

[@BounceBoomBounce]

I don't know about an album, but Robert Smith from The Cure used four Line 6 Spiders for his sound during a concert not long before covid hit. It seemed to sound pretty good. Creativity can find a place for pretty much any piece of gear. That's the great thing about having it all to choose from. Enjoyed the video as always.

[@guitarist100]

I have my Wampler mini tumnus into the Fulltone OCD into Hall of Fame reverb into Marshall DSL 15h and cab,hard rock heaven !!!!

[@moo3992]

Ok just what i was looking for again. Time to settle in for a good one. Got my pipe, mug, pedals, amp, a/b box n guitar. Thanx y'all

[@russbradshawmusic]

I might have to use that tone on a record. Thank you guys.

[@homeworldmusic]

Made me smile to hear you say "one ring to rule them all" before introducing the Metal Zone. I bought one back in the day and was able to cop a great imitation of the intro tone to "Sorrow" by Gilmour/Floyd, but I remember also being very frustrated with it, never seemed to rise above the mud. Will have to pull it out of storage and give it another listen.

[@adamskold6395]

Note that they use a Waza Metal Zone here using the Custom mode which is a very much improved version of the original Metal Zpne circuit. If you want Gilmour tones à Sorrow I would go for an EHX Green Russian Big Muff. It's cheap and totally awesome!

[@mattvanmantgem8600]

Something I have been doing forever, now have permanent of the board ( custom pedal) is DOD 250, MXR Distortion +, and Tonebender mk III. The deal is: the DOD and MXR are two halves of the same whole - Op Amp gain, while the Tonebender sits right in the middle of Fuzz Face and Big Muff, so by feeding the right amount of the right kind of Op Amp gain with it it can go either way. Hence- I can approximate a massive number of signature tones with a wide variety of conditions ( different amps, different rooms, etc) with one pedalboard.

[@billtice5057]

You guys are loved and adored! But…. I found myself screaming at my IPad watching this video, because pedal order is so important. You guy’s were so close to achieving pedal nirvana many times. 🤭🤣

[@gtiman67]

Welcome back!!! It's like Batman and Robin Ying &Yang ☯️ Tweddle Dee & Tweedle Dumb Pretzels & Mountain Dew Rejoice😄

[@anthonydoyle367]

With a bunch of pedals in front of him, Lee is like hyperactive kid without his Ritalin. I found myself shouting "stop messing with the knobs for fuck's sake!"

[@fraenkiboii]

Klon(e) into BlackBox will never leave my board. Except when I get on top of the KoT waiting list, by the end of 2050-ish.

[@charlesb7831]

I gain stack a Zakk Wylde overdrive and the Ibanez Nu-tube screamer. They work well together. Something I personally noticed in the video (and it makes a difference) was the order the pedals were placed ie. The tube screamer before or after a different O.D. pedal. It changes as to what pedal is driving what pedal.

[@normf9020]

"The Metal Zone sounds really good." -The Captain, 2020 I'll take "Things I Thought I'd Never Hear The Captain Say" for $1000, Alex.

[@dainhamilton7746]

8:20 rob looking for his tubescreamer on the floor oh wait-

[@monroequinn7546]

Cue Sammy Davis Jr. “That is one heavy video man.”

[@gregsacks8720]

Random show idea: get Mr Steinhardt on and feature a discussion between him and Lee about their respective tastes in gear and why they seem to differ - no right answers of course, but this seems like a conversation that could illuminate many better questions for all of us. Or alternatively start a youtube war with TPS!

[@RubyRoks]

808 into Klon into Metal Zone was golden!!

[@duke_pgh3420]

Nice to see Chappers back. I really enjoy his playing

[@darrenc8776]

Sarcasm?

[@metalpuppet5798]

@@darrenc8776 he is an awesome player. Period

[@darrenc8776]

@@metalpuppet5798 his wife still fights his corner. That's nice

[@metalpuppet5798]

@@darrenc8776 just look at the ratio of supporters and bullies and you know whats up. Hes a great musician.

[@darrenc8776]

@@metalpuppet5798 really. Stop 50 people in the street and ask if the know him

[@DMNKLR_official]

My fave OD is the Klazo Drive, from Greenchild Amplification. No other OD has ever sounded so beautiful to my ears, even my old fave - the old Boss OS2.

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

I think Boss needs to make a Blues Zone, and that will be Lee's Signature pedal.

[@jfo3000]

Lol! You win best comment.

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

Thank you!

[@scottwinning7484]

Haha your right mate, all subjective, Lee wanted the looking glass in there too... I'm a blues guy and have a looking glass and it sounds awesome as an always on pre-amp with od before it, use mine into my blues Jr and it totally livens it up at low volumes.....

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

I agree completely. That said, my original comment was actually a Metal Zone joke. Make a Blues Zone, and that will be Lee's Siganture pedal.

[@scottwinning7484]

@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy I get it dude, I know what you meant 👍

[@glenproctor1999]

Emphasise with you Cap, Metalzone on a blues players board? Wah!!! Missed the Dane out though. Klon into the Dane is a beautiful sound and it's got the boost too.

[@jobiy1999]

I read the thumbnail without the colon and saw "pedal stacking is more always better". Then I thought "yes".

[@Neil-Aspinall]

Things can never be as they were.

[@eyalnaor6967]

Allways fun to see you play together

[@RealGingerTea]

The best thing about this video, is that I just got all my drives out and had a lot of fun. Thanks Chappers and El Capitan Today's lesson = Buy more boost pedals

[@Clafrance1971]

I thought it was buy more Wah pedals.....

[@RealGingerTea]

@@Clafrance1971 Wah you on about

[@CyleRedCloud]

This is actually a really interesting perspective. I think a good idea would be to use amp inspired pedals like the plexi, 5150, or friedman pedals and pair them with boost pedals like the ts9, ds1, ep....etc. See if it would be cheap good alternative for people who cant afford the amps.

[@intoxicatedparanoia8746]

4:22 I love how the first thing he plays when going into the fuzz by itself was QUIET by Smashing pumpkins!!

[@ToddTheJoker]

Lately I have been using my BOSS DS-1 black anniversary pedal with an added boost of my JOYO Vintage OverDrive and it sounds great. Like Chappers said, horses for courses.

[@AllanGildea]

That was just a snad short of being top class. Cheers lads.

[@fredmarquis1105]

Happy to see rob at andertons :)

[@JoelK]

So good to see the Looking Glass back. It’s my fav pedal to pair with others - bass cut and presence make it very versatile. Andertons were the reason I got one!

[@trfgod3095]

You seriously missed a trick not putting a fuzzface into the klon 😉

[@e.g.systems6146]

I've missed that coffee cup disappearing in a puff of smoke :O) Was it just me who thought the whole time that there was a strange low-mid almost cocked wah thing to the sound? Maybe the amp, maybe the Ibanez, but....?

[@wibblewabblewoo6249]

Fun video - need to take into account the sound of the guitar in a full mix, with the rest of the band.

[@matzer8846]

So its "quot libet" ... Thanks a lot for sharing these great little boxes of tone.

[@yashdaware2458]

Throughout the video Rob just wanted to dial more gain until he plays a note with Metalzone. Truly a classic.

[@BobLHedd]

More isn't always better, but it IS always more. Pretty sound demonstration of why Tube Screamer and EP Boost are classic pedals.

[@guitarsimon1]

The magic combo is the Klon (or Klone) into or after literally anything, that pedal makes everything sound better in my experience.

[@DasDhaza]

Normal klon kills to much low end imho.

[@camai75]

@@DasDhaza Not the MXR sugar drive...or EHX Soul Food..

[@2ndEditionBryce]

@@camai75 The MXR sugar drive is awesome! One of my favorites.

[@mootsym]

@@DasDhaza you don't need low end when playing with a band. you want to be heard and the Klon gets you heard : )

[@Marcmcilroy]

The captain looked like a DJ when he was messing with the pedals

[@jfo3000]

Lol! He always does. And he keeps talking, barely listens for nuance so it seems.

[@jakubSwaps]

Ola Englund did a great video on the Metalzone, running it into the effects loop sounds incredible. Made me wanna get one. You guys should really try to do that some time to let the mighty MZ redeem itself.

[@AlexMullerSA]

Think it really depends on so many factors just like all music is subjective, but I personally enjoy my MT2 in front of my amp over the fx loop. The loop makes it muddy IMO

[@BrandonOutside]

I've been using an OCD clone into a Klon clone and have been pretty happy with them. I'm thinking of adding a compressor and/or clean boost to see what else I can coax out of them.

[@Clafrance1971]

do you want Stormtroopers? I'm pretty sure that's how you get stormtroopers......

[@hawedehre]

In the last blindfold shootout Rob liked the Fender Pugilist. Try that one.

[@russhicksart]

I missed these!

[@Sashan2012]

I love that SFM Ibanez .... mainly as it is the same model I own :) Also it is good that you are using a different guitar to the usual parade of Fender, Gibson or Chapman (less so, as you know the problem here ;) ) guitars for these vids

[@minimini4276]

layered gain with more volume than gain makes for a cleaner cut through crunch without being muddy

[@Potatoast]

It's funny. RAT's have existed for decades now, and I just never bought one, until recently, and now it's instantly one of my favorite pedals. I've stacked it with a driven amp and it sounds great, I've run it into a clean channel and an SD-1 before it, and it sounds great. I also like it on its own too.

[@willstocks4916]

it seems their approach is 'the blind leading the blind' and they're not applying any logic as to why they're making certain choices. an example, at 9:30, rob say's "thats the high end" from the rattler, they then move to the black box for the mids and lows. if they were doing this in a parallel setting, that approach would be great. it's as if they're missing the point / not understanding how the shelving eq works. in having the rattler set bright, "that's the high end" trying to boost bass from there is tricky. you'd need a higher gain pedal that's got the desired rhythm eq curve, then add something that shelves bottom end and boosts mids for a boost. probably the rat or blues breaker, then kick on the ts or klon for the boost.

[@n3rdg4m3r]

Well said, couldnt agree more!

[@darrenc8776]

Well i think you should do a channel. You clearly no more than rob and lee basee on this farce

[@bryantwalley]

I believe that was what they were going for. Just grab some pedals, hook them up in random configurations, then start pushing the knobs and turning the buttons. That is what Lee does.

[@imacashew.]

Bryant Walley It’s exactly what they do. Sometimes it’s a bit insufferable. Hahah

[@REVVINGRODNEY]

What he said 😂😂

[@Marcmcilroy]

Fantastic to have chappers and the captain back making videos. Great vid boys 🎸 👍🏻

[@nizodizo9549]

I do the same thing with a Boss SD-1 and an Arion MTE-1 Tubulator when I am playing a single coil guitar.

[@ryanspencerlauderdale687]

What a perfect time to have a GigRig G2. (Shameless plug for That Pedal Show, I know) (Namedrop horn blast for Chris Buck)

[@robertprice5039]

You guys seem to be digging the Tube Sreamer into the Black Box. My go to combination is a Wampler Euphoria into a Wampler Pantheon for a sustained lead tone, which are in the same ballpark.

[@AndrewCCM]

How many Metal Zone’s did you just sell? Lmao

[@orlock20]

Some people run their Metal Zone through the FX loop. Running distortion and fuzz pedals through the FX loop create a different sound.

[@ithemba]

@@orlock20 literally everyone who has accessed the internet over the last year and has ever read the words metal and zone in any combination knows this by now dude. but yeah the custom setting of the waza metal zone is quite good, it basically flattens the quite extreme EQ settings of the metal zone and makes it far easier to put in front of the amp. Its eq curve looks more like a DS-1, 2 or a HM-2, while the original metal zone was so over the top with its spikes that it basically only works as a preamp. Most preamps sound like ass if you run them into anything but a very neutral amp precisely because of the frequency overkill.

[@TheBigburcie]

@@ithemba I think you're right that the Waza mods make that far more versatile than the 80s tone you normally associate with it.

[@AD-kv9kj]

However you run it, it's still extremely MEHtal ZZZone.

[@enengkon]

@@TheBigburcie I agree. The custom mode is very usable. More mids than the classic MZ.

[@TheBigburcie]

Did anyone else hear Lee devolve into Mr. Bean in that brief outtake at the end?

[@npinero1]

You should have tried a compressor like the UNIT67 into the other high end distortion pedals. Raising the gain/boost on the compressor increases the harmonics on the pedal that follows it REALLY well.

[@JohnnyReading]

LOL at the beachball.

[@ces7515]

That's a first, chappers struggling to get a word in over the captain 😂 must be that plastic screen 😂You guys are the best 👍cool video, cheers

[@Apfelsau]

I would like to see that Video idea with the captain in the guitar

[@VMX12k]

In the 80's I wasn't aware that others may have been stacking gain pedals and my 'secret weapon' was a Tokia Overdrive into a Pearl Distortion and then into a CE2 and a Marshall Plexi. (Haha, Reverb and Delay wasn't in the budget at that stage).

[@Bcwilderness]

was doing this last night and found a tube pedal into an overdrive hit the spot through the captor x, chewie juice man

[@lupo10]

Lee stop fiddling with the knobs! Lol

[@proteus2103]

Oi, Rob! Got some of these pedals knockin about, be back in a tick

[@npinero1]

ah the beachball at 28:43, love it.

[@ledhendrix5054]

I always thought stacking more than two can get muddy , and I noticed when you gave the sound of the dry amp it sounded a little crunchy to my ears.

[@lilivi4301]

Man that centura sounds great! *looks at price tag* Oh.

[@johnlee85]

Love the sound of the AZ

[@kentonschroer2347]

I can feel Dan and Mick cringe watching this video. Now they will have to do another pedal order and stacking video because people will be confused.

[@darrenc8776]

I could just see Dan and Mick wince every time Rob missed a note or played out of tune

[@christophersuggs8487]

I view my pedalboard like an artist's paint pallette - 3 shades of yellow, 4 shades of blue, etc.... no artist uses only one shade and they're always mixing colors. I often have three different OD pedals on at the same time, none of them turned up very much, but in the end the tone earns compliments. Its a sonic paintbrush and people's ears are the canvas.

[@muaddib667]

Do your farts smell good as well?

[@jtyoung706]

Wow tone from a can of bees ! That's freaking amazing!

[@pCeLobster]

Great to see Rob back!

[@DerekHartley]

Is it? Really?

[@darrenc8776]

@@DerekHartley yeah .... erm

[@metalpuppet5798]

@@DerekHartley YES. Hes a great guy. Certainly a better human than you

[@DerekHartley]

@@metalpuppet5798 Lies? What lies? The things he's even said himself in his so-called 'apology' videos? I don't think so.

[@metalpuppet5798]

@@DerekHartley He never admitted anything because he doesnt have to. NO ONE ever actually proved just one thing

[@minimini4276]

dont forget the EP booster has dip switches inside for a colored gain boost or clean boost

[@djlane74]

I enjoy Rob being back. Takes me back to the time when I discovered these videos for the first time about 3 years ago... Happy days 😊

[@grahamtinkler4562]

Thank god that I am not the only one struggling to get the right tone!!!!!!!!!!

[@garrett1188]

The shattered glass scared the bonkers out of me

[@michaelgarcia2050]

Lee and Rob, this combination, is the reason I watch this channel. Oh, and that Metal Zone sounded pretty good ..

[@dannymoisan4956]

ThorpyFX Gunshot into MXR sugar drive...... perfection

[@StringsOfCrossroads]

Is that danish Petes klon?😜 welcome back Chappers!

[@cirjames2540]

The Metal Zone wins! \m/

[@andremackay8565]

There it is, I’ve been waiting for years, 24:15, lock in the archives. As per the Captain, “...the metal zone sounds really good”

[@DeadmanRides]

Really helpful. AND IM SO HAPPY YALL ARE TOGETHER AGAIN. Captain looks agitated or Hammered I can’t tell

[@darrenc8776]

Fed up, pissed off, thinking hes done the wrong thing

[@DeadmanRides]

Darren C for real