Finding What's Wrong With Our $10,000 Piper Cherokee 180 During Annual...

[@michaelhurst506]

Given the ferry flight, the passing of the annual with relatively low expenses, you didn't get at good deal, you got a FANTASTIC deal!!! I once bought a 1969 Arrow 28R201 in 1984 with its engine pulled to pieces (only 1200 hrs though), non-working radios, VFR avionics, trash paint and interior, etc., abandoned and bought on a mechanic's and airport lien (same entity). Eventually got the engine rebuilt including accessories, prop recertified, avionics updated and certified to IFR, interior upholstery redone, full stripping and repainting, and finally airworthy and signed off on everything. I think you and the viewers know where this is going.........Totally jealous.....I had NO idea of what I was getting into.....anyone thinking of getting into this kind of thing needs to see your channel..... My initial $10K required $15K for the makeover or $25K in 1984-85 which would be the same as $25K in 2024 blowing up to $73K in today's dollars.

[@JeanSchermerhorn]

I began my career in aviation in Syracuse, N.Y. in 1966 flying all makes of new pipers. The Piper-180 was a favorite to fly. The aircraft shown looks more like a Cherokee -160 (160 hp). There all very good Pipers and I liked them all. (86 year old ATP, CFI, 15000 hours)

[@AlexIsModded]

I really like the style of the current paint job, and would love to see this exact paint job stripped and redone because with fresh paint it will look so nice. The stripes are so iconic of all the Cherokee planes, and this one's stripes are so good. Perfect color balance and in general very pretty.

[@michaelb.8953]

Any opportunity to poke some fun at Greta should never be wasted. The clip that keeps on giving.

[@DonRobinson-le6qp]

I'm so glad I found your channel about a month ago. This is so refreshing and exciting to watch. I'm a retired Army UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter pilot as I've said before. I'm retiring for good in two years at 62 and I plan on having my pilots license by then and the Cherokee seems like a good but fairly basic aircraft to fly and maintain on a budget. I've never been in or flown in a small aircraft but I'm so hyped to make this a reality. Not sure how the transition from a Blackhawk to a Cherokee will be, but I'm looking forward to the challenge!! Thanks guys for this amazing channel you have created

[@JRAviation]

Wow, thank you for the nice comment. That is so cool that you fly Blackhawks, I’m sure the transition for you will not be difficult. Really appreciate you watching all our videos!

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

The plane looks like it was really well taken care of. That's a great find.. what a joy to do an owner annual as well, so much to learn AND get to know your aircraft as well. Now you are truly one with your machine. Great!!

[@dadlovestofish]

Love the process with this plane. I'm not a pilot but my son is, and we fly as much as possible when he's home from USAFA. His dream after flying for the AF is to own his own plane for recreational use. You guy's prove he can do that sooner than later. Great job! Can't wait till the next video!

[@Ryanmason96]

I think it’s so cool you & your brother are into this & go into this together

[@reyesben]

Nice haircut. I was praying for you to get one. Love the videos thanks

[@LockinProfits]

Thought the same 😂

[@vincentsterring5265]

Great seeing Larry again in this vid. Love it how he shares his expertise: very educational all

[@djwilliams4714]

YES Two videos one week!!!

[@duanekauffman1818]

I stop looking at barnstormers for one month and you found the plane I was looking for!!!! Ugh……….good job!!!!!!

[@DocPRSGuitarBlues]

Another very enjoyable video. You guys got a smoking deal on that Cherokee and what a great platform for training. Keep up the great work with the “garage” and “aviation” channels.

[@JRAviation]

Thank you!!

[@smokingspitfire1197]

Thanks for the shout on EarthX batteries, I’m going to be adding one to my PA-24-260B next annual. With so many electrical systems on my airplane I never look over electrical upgrades!

[@djwashx]

That delivery was great!!!!!!!!!!

[@JRGarage]

YOU GOT ME AGAIN. I just spilled coffee all over my iPad 😡

[@dadlovestofish]

Me too!

[@iceman20013]

Not funny lol

[@myomy2009]

I spilled some hot tea on that one...but...that was cool. 😄

[@alexmikhael5061]

I got a ''chill'' ....cuz the other night literally like 3 nights ago, I SQUISHED A BROWN RECLUSE THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT ONE and the one in the pic all spread out like not curled up all skared cuz the RAID IS NEAR.... :) I gotta get some squiretyerer spider go by by juice now!!! we have a T S C like 10 mins walk away.... dangerious....

[@brandonbman5921]

Maximize your ROI. Paint correct it, re-pinstripe it and spruce up the interior a bit. Then move that sucker down the road for what? 3x, 4x what you have in it.

[@CRFHONDARIDER100]

Probably starts faster with the mags timed correctly as well nice deal for 10k

[@stevenflattum156]

So much fun watching your adventures!

[@MarkSnop]

that was a great video you guys! I feel like I’m right there alongside of you. Thanks for bringing me along.

[@WazzaOz]

That was an awesome buy... well done...

[@aviationkphx2599]

I saw the Cherokee at KSDL May 27th looked pretty good for the price!

[@TacosTuesdays]

Its time for a repaint! She deserves it!

[@jerryn8333]

Love it. I swear every new video makes me want to go buy a plane LOL. I think I won't be able to resist the urge to buy a Bonanza much longer ive watched that build series probably a dozen times.

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

You should always have an ELT on every flight, however I am pretty sure there is an exemption of 90 days (meaning you have 90 days from the time of removal to still fly) if it's taken out for inspection, repair, modification or replacement. That would most likely include replacement of the expired battery. But, better safe than sorry.

[@tedstriker754]

Great buy. And it seems in great condition. ELT battery, those 406mhz ELT's are a can of worms. They all have expensive, proprietary batteries, and they have to be inspected by someone who has the test box every year. Usually an avionics shop. The FCC somehow stopped avionics companies from making the 121.5 ELTs, although they are still legal. And some of them use off the shelf batteries. And you can test them yourself. I collected a few of those older ones before they were all gone.

[@cassbiz]

You just won the Lotto with this one. Congrats!

[@SimonAmazingClarke]

Remove the stickers and red trim. Buff up the paint, reapply new stickers and red trim. She'll look amazing. Does sound like a good aircraft and great engine

[@trumote]

What a great find! I am curious what got you interested in restoring planes. It seems quite unpredictable with neglect and unknown maintenance records. Really cool to see you guys systematically inspect the aircraft and regain the airworthiness cert.

[@jakereil4027]

Yes Jeff thank you! Love this channel!

[@grantmurrell3296]

An absolute steal. Love it!

[@LockinProfits]

Haircut looks better 🤩💯

[@Durandalski]

Polished aluminum is a bear to maintain, strip and repaint is the way to go. A snazzy modern paint job could really boost the sales appeal.

[@ericbitzer5247]

No, paint it exactly the way it is. I don't like (snazzy) paint jobs on planes. I love the classic look when they looked cool.

[@adriennefoley2906]

Great video ….always awesome to see Christian ☺️

[@charlietabone6162]

That plane is a beauty. If that was mine I’d wash it polish it touch it up where it needs and that’s it mate. Keep it a cheap plane. Well done boys

[@jonfelty6063]

Great video adventure! You make great buys! I admire your judgement! Look forward to the flight home!

[@zenvairpilot]

The plane has some amazing hidden performance mods (all STC'd). Keep following.

[@antonioportelli1002]

Excellent video as always!! Glad to see everything went well!!

[@JRAviation]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@claydog6422]

Re-Paint!!! And do a massive interior makeover

[@ericsd55]

Glad to see you didn't use an electric impact driver on a camloc again!!

[@nitroneal414]

That was a great score

[@johnmajane3731]

I switched to 20W 50 Phillips and my oil leaks were significantly reduced over the Aeroshell 15W 50. I also add camguard with each change.

[@bobkinney7913]

My Grandmother worked at Lycoming in Williamsport during WW 2.

[@danmcburney3247]

I wouldn't paint it.... you got a great deal on it but it's just a Cherokee !! You're absolutely right about 50 of them or one 182 👍 The haircut looks soo much better 😁 I'm 62 from Iowa and have been flying 46 year's.... I still think you should sell me the Zenith 😅

[@garthtagge3526]

Well done boys!!

[@Metabo1950]

The Cherokee with the Hershey Bar wing is one of the safest planes you can fly.

[@DaveWrightKB9MNM]

I'm sure the timing being off didnt help with starting, but the battery really spins that prop!

[@sarahdell4042]

Rocking 87 octane in that poor v12 😂

[@malps420]

i was looking for a comment about this LOL

[@Pantherjonvideos]

You got a steal!!! A plane for 10k with a fairly minimal annual to get it back airworthy? Deal of the decade!! If that paint buffs out, it will be the deal of the century!

[@FreedomfixerFlying]

You could have put the ELT on a 90 day deferral. 91.207(f)(10) states an entry in the log of the date the ELT was removed/inoperable and a placard on the instrument panel in view of the pilot " ELT not Installed ".

[@rvrnnr987]

Good stuff! I'm liking your aviation videos more and more. One of these days I need to find a deal like this Cherokee to give to the high school aviation club I'm running and building at the school where I teach. It would be so cool to have our own plane, or access to our own plane like that! ...if the district would allow it... But that's another topic... Keep up the good work!

[@gregoryclifft7398]

Get an oil udder, will catch all that overflow when changing the filter.

[@grahammcewan2059]

Hello from NZ. Found your site a few weeks ago, and enjoy it immensely. Please enlighten me: what does the JR stand for?

[@davidlee4576]

That’s the deal all (us) new pilots are looking for. Nice find!

[@michaelgill7248]

Love it guys, from jets to props. Keep em coming. Maybe J3 Cub next?

[@fishhead90]

14:17 again?!😂 I legit had to look away 😂

[@terryschima4964]

You guys are so lucky 🍀!

[@petesheppard1709]

Is the prop pitched for climb or cruise? The way it jumped off the runway on a hot day makes me think 'climb', which will cost you a bit of speed. PLEASE, keep and refresh the current paint job; the money saved can go to the interior.

[@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday]

Great video! So what did it cost to get it airworthy? What's the all-in cost? (is that in Part 3?)

[@vivianrotunda1587]

You might also check into the "F" modification for Marvel Schebler carburetors. The "F" modification replaces any fragile copper, composite or plastic float with a bullet proof "blue epoxy" float having stainless steel arms and pin. I have personally experienced two sunken floats in two different airplanes, which nearly caused off-airport landings in both cases. I'm an A&P IA but not sure why more A&P's don't understand how important the "F" carburetor revision is to flight safety.

[@rjbishop12]

Great deal, looks like it really panned out for you. And that old Jeep Cherokee sticker on the side... hilarious!

[@kmg501]

Woohoo! Video time.

[@bobmoyer8864]

I love this airplane.... will you share how much the annual cost you.... may I ask, how many hours left on the engine before major overhaul? How much time on the airframe? Maybe you guys can come up withofficial JR Aviation paint colors or scheme or something. That would be kinda cool and you wouldn't have to do whole new paint jobs.... just have them all kinda close.... enjoy

[@FeltonZackery-gm8yl]

Cherokee 180 She’s a winner🏆

[@michaelsmith2017]

Did you have to update the weight & balance when you lost 25lbs with the lithium battery?

[@CDB1952]

With two people up front Pa28s are notoriously forward CG limited. May need to hall some thing(s) around just for ballest.

[@Nicholas-f5]

​@@CDB1952haul

[@BenjaminRamos-t4y]

Oh cool so you guys are the ones keeping my IA from finishing my plane sweet lol.

[@cs0986]

Probably needs a repaint but I would it if you kept that same paint scheme! Love it! It’s old school cool!

[@Squirel]

I think the aeroplane was a fantastic deal. In terms of what to do with the exterior, I think you first have to decide what you're going to do with it. Clearly the plane is in pretty good nick but if you are going to sell it, it really needs a spruce up - first impressions count. If you're keeping it to log your own hours etc, you can afford to leave it (for now).

[@wayne9638]

awesome video, you guys are my heroes

[@clarencewiles963]

1 2 3 New paint, is in the back of my mind. Thumbs up 👍

[@itsdaniyaal]

Great video JR. Would love if part 3 has more flying included actually wouldn't mind uncut flight back :D

[@jeffwalker7640]

Great video as usual!

[@dhouse-d5l]

When I see mechanics working a critical component on a dirty ole packing case...I start asking questions. Anyway that original stripe will look great re done.

[@wlbrobinson]

Big Cherokee Fan, own a 66 180 in west phoenix, they go down hill fast if not flown, keep them Flying.

[@letsfly72x]

Another nice video ✈️

[@miloswanson9646]

I WANT IT!!! When can I pick it up??? :D I logged ~25 hrs in a Cessna 150 back in the mid-70s, but as they say, Life Happens. I'd love to finish my PPL. I did the AOPA 'Rusty Pilot' course, and have recently updated my Medical, and got a new Student license, Ground School course bought (believe it or not, some things have changed in 50 years, LOL). Now to pass my Written and get the rest of my PIC time logged...

[@davidnelson4707]

earth X batteries are totally unbelievable. i have one in my 180hp cessna and it’s really helped in cold starts, can’t recommend them enough.

[@ericbitzer5247]

YES! REPAINT FRESH EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS!!!

[@johnwight6041]

I love my Cherokee 180. It’s such an awesome plane! Congrats I can’t believe how cheap it was. My airplane I paid $89,900 so still can’t believe how cheap yours was

[@amtpdb1]

The link for Larry's channel did not work! Thanks for the video.

[@ohiyesa2328]

2:23 Love the sticker

[@fanelli57]

You guys are rockstars in your field, keep it up. By the way, you did amend the weight and balance numbers after installing that light weight battery, right?

[@MegaFluxcapacitor]

Damn that’s cool with old mate bringing the battery.

[@brookesenfrance3852]

You have encouraged me to get my PPL. Come on!!!!!!!!!

[@DR-jq9bg]

You guys are AMAZING in what you accomplish! 10k for a 180 is so awesome. Please enter me in the giveaway when it happens (yes, I'll keep a lookout for it)!

[@benjigault9043]

Camguard, great for Lycoming, not needed for continental engines. Also, I am not a fan of multiweight oils, straight 50 for me but that has a lot to do with the heat in Texas.

[@williamnaler3366]

Hey rusty pilot here . Had to stop due to finances but anxious to get back in the air. If you ever give away an airplane please throw my name into the hat . Thanks. BTW, I really enjoy your videos

[@AUav8r05]

Please repaint the plane! I can’t wait to see it restored to glory!

[@Aviatorpeck1957]

Great plane!!! I love my Cherokee 140/150hp I really like your channel keep it up!!! Safe flying

[@indytripacer7390]

Great video

[@JRAviation]

Thanks for the visit

[@RandomDude989]

Rust-Oleum Turbo Can the plane?

[@TakeFlightGarage]

You guys have no idea how bad I want that Cherokee lol.

[@charlesdiehl5707]

Congratulations. What year is the Cherokee? Keep the paint job.very nostalgic

[@jonclassical2024]

OMG...so glad you got a haircut!!!!

[@alrad5686]

What a sweet deal. Always pays to have the cash in hand to jump on these deals when they come up. It should provide many fun flying hours.

[@mecanicodejetski]

I was ready to deal for a 1960 210 that are in somerton, i need a time builder plane and was a good option for my future, but i will search more as need something easy to resale not as a 210 1960.

[@radams009]

YOU GOT ME.

[@JRAviation]

I warned you though!

[@planeflyer21]

Repaint it in a nice desert camouflage!

[@wjthehomebuilder]

15:09 Well.. you got me.

[@dstout9913]

You need to get the Annual done and let me worry about the paint after I buy it.