Fine, I'll Watch LOKI

Full Spoilers ahead. After a lot of you told me to watch Loki in spite of the MCU's consistent failings... I did. Did it suck? Or was Loki season 2 just as good as some of the best of the MCU? Was it a satisfying conclusion to the god of stories?
I talk about the failing of the Marvels vs Loki Season 2, and why one is what the future of the franchise must be.
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[@jamesgatward1985]

I think it was a good move to not focus on romantic love in season 2. Loki’s learning to love and care for people was wider than that.

[@teraxe]

There was a lot of backlash after season one about the romance, and about a "female" Loki even being in the show, so many cries of "Go Woke Go Broke"

[@fartbutt7831]

Yeah I wish they would've at least talked about it more but I know that's tough when you have to fit everything into six episodes

[@phoearwenien4355]

​​​​@@teraxe Which is shame, because she was important to the story and we are dealing with multiverse and a norse god that took all kind of shapes, including opposite gender. There are aslo different versions of female Loki in the comics. I really dislike this fake outrage. We got way past simple crritique into a realm of grifting. This channel is an exception obviously and I can't be more happy those still exist, but it's a dying bred that still values honesty.

[@nalday2534]

Pandering to morons on internet is anti-art. Also, this season does jackshit with Loki's so called friends. Eric Martin cannot develop relationships.

[@Pinakiprime910]

@@nalday2534 what do you mean jackshit? mobius got a fitting end with watching over how his life transpired and being at peace, silvie free to roam the multiverse this time being sure no one will chase after her but determined to protect lokis sacrifice, the TVA being non corrupt. it is literally the perfect development

[@bloodyneptune]

I love that the time loop stuff _didnt_ work. He used it to do everything possible to save the lume, but it didnt work. Using it to try and stop Silvie didnt work. The only time it did is when he used it to get advice, and to go back to the point where he could take the 3rd option. Even the big bad was just a dude who wanted to retire, nothing was what youd expect.

[@maiku5723]

that retire part is questionable because Kang during that finale is pure evil I wouldn't pass him to manipulate Loki into killing Slyvie to save him self.

[@phoearwenien4355]

​​@@maiku5723 I wouldn't pass him to manipulate Loki to create a new loom XD He Who Remains was taired and bored, so what better entertainment than having a multiverse that doesn't end the same? More places to conquer and manipupate XD

[@kylemccormack1785]

loom*

[@Andre-vt4np]

​@@phoearwenien4355this! Thats why I love the theory about He who remains already planned loki to be God of stories

[@yohanesbobbysanjaya3541]

​@@maiku5723 it is totally in character tho.. Kang created the sacred timeline by deleting his variants, its understandable he expected Loki to do the same. "i made the hard decision, that is why i got the big chair" . also Kang didn't do any manipulation, he didn't even tried to save himself... he presented them a trolley problem - keep the sacred timeline but keep pruning or choose the multiverse and risk it with total assured destruction. Sylvie action is wrong, you cant defeat Kang by killing him. Kang literally said that if the authority got overthrown, someone will take its place.. and other Kang wont be as nice as HWR. she just dead set on killing Kang, that is why at the end of the day Kang made Loki choose to Kill Sylvie... let think this way, if Kang wanted to save himself then he would manipulate Sylvie instead of Loki... Kang didn't want to save himself... *he wanted to be proven right* , he wanted to show that his ideology is the correct one.. this is why i think the end of Loki is amazing, Loki didn't defeat Kang by fighting him, he defeated him by doing the exact thing that Kang did - became the He Who Remains, holding everything at the end of time, but this time with the other side of the trolley problem. I think this is the ultimate redemption, Loki started his journey with the same mindset as Kang - that he was the chosen one, he had a glorious purpose, he is a god that is above everybody, that a weaker being should follow the strong- In a way Loki fought against Kang is the same as him fighting the prefect version of his old-self and now he choose to be selfless and sacrifice himself for others... i truly believe that this is the prefect end for Loki

[@hiccuphufflepuff176]

If the Groundhog's Day looping had successfully repaired the Loom this episode would have been the most Whovian Who that ever Who-ed. When Loki was running around tapping buttons and spouting techno-babble at a mile a minute, the only thought on my mind was "He's the Doctor. I am literally just watching the Doctor now." But then the show said "Absolutely not. You are watching the origin story of a NORSE GOD" and chucked all the machinery into space to plant the roots of Yggdrasil.

[@phoearwenien4355]

Hahaha, definitely and I loved that so much :D He is now a gardener of yggdrasil :D

[@Natta44]

Yes I think that caught everyone by surprise that they threw the science out the window. It's like in ep 5, I was shocked that the time slipping could be controlled as since s1, I thought it was a glitch. That's when the story got immediately more godly than just being a Dr who character.

[@nalublackwater9729]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who caught how Whovian Loki was at the start of the episode!

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

Absolutely well said! XD

[@zachanikwano]

Have not watched the show but I was getting that Doctor Who vibe.

[@christopherramsey7027]

I love how the only thing that changes plot-wise for the first 45 minutes of the finale is Loki's character. He isn't able to change anything about the actual situation, but he does get valuable advice and perspectives, and he uses it to make decision at the end of the episode.

[@virginiaf4117]

That's actually really cool. I didn't realize. The effort they put into character and plot over CGI battles really paid off into a gorgeous and love-made show.

[@profpigeon5441]

Loki is just a good show that happens to be an MCU show, and it's also anchored by some excellent actors.

[@kylemccormack1785]

This is how I always explained Daredevil to people when they didn't watch it because "mcu bad"

[@Chimera723]

@@kylemccormack1785 Actually Loki and Daredevil are my top favorite Marvel shows! 😊

[@SilvaaVitor]

@@kylemccormack1785 for real, I've always been saying that you can hate Marvel stuff or superhero stuff and still love Daredevil. It's just that good.

[@septemberstarlight9362]

it has the exact same condition andor has then as well! ahah.

[@ibaxterrwoof]

@@kylemccormack1785literally the same with moonknight

[@AJ-xc4qe]

Season 2 might just be the best thing to come out of the Multiverse Saga! The acting, the VFX, the action sequences, the consistent character writing! My only complaint is that I would've wanted to see his variants again. Especially Kid Loki since every single member of the Young Avengers are all introduced! Also, Loki and What If make me wonder what other alternate reality spinoffs we could get from different franchises!

[@RandomPerson-tz7wk]

lol no, the whole reason why there inconsistent character writing is because of the multiverse. writer dont know how the character is going to be in future movie. so their growth is not "permanent". and why loki character writing consistent (relatively) is because they dont need to care how it will fit into future movie. God loki and tva is out of (main) universe and time. they wont play any role in any conflict due to how op they are. loki can stop time and redo everything whenever without any limitation at all.

[@btafbm]

NWH is way better

[@Benji_LL]

I felt that the romantic aspect of the show didn't disappear, but had shifted to more of a breakup tone. Awkward to be around, struggling to have a conversation that doesn't end in an argument, it was to me a very natural subversion of my expectations, and really fit in with the tone and theme Season 2, longing for the former days, wishing we could go back. Lovely stuff.

[@HishamA.N_Comicbroe]

Loki is what happens you give great writers & directors creative freedom to take a story where they see fit. Some of the things they did in the final few eps left me in awe.

[@MrSneakSneak]

You could just shorten your sentence to "Loki is what happens when you get great writers-"

[@phoearwenien4355]

​​@@MrSneakSneak Nah, creative freedom is as much important. Higher ups at Marvel thend to mess with the plot and that's a problem too, because that unplanned messiness is then seen on screen. For example writers didn't plan for Kang to be defeated in Quantum Mania. Imagine how differently that show would have been viewed by fans (although I didn't had a problem with this personally, knowing it's a multiversum with no shortage of Kangs XD)

[@nalday2534]

​@@MrSneakSneak go back to playing games loser

[@RandomPerson-tz7wk]

@@MrSneakSneak no, great writers exist and work on movies all the time. but all that effort is wasted when they're fired and studio hire someone else to rewrite the script. just look at marval and DC movie. they change directors and main writers way to many times.

[@MrSneakSneak]

How sure are you on the Kang being defeated? I remember a vocal writer for quantumania who was fired from Kang dynasty for being so open about how he wanted the movie to be (light hearted, comedy). It honestly feels like they are giving lots of creative freedom to the writers and directors. Look at shows and movies like secret invasion, the Marvels, Moon Knight, Wandavision, she hulk, Thor Love and thunder... All have distinct styles and with confirmation of the commentary from the directors, they got to explore their vision of the characters as either stupid and pandering or well written and performed in the final product with marvel just kind of letting the failure happen.

[@Badmunky64]

Loki actually felt like a main character again.

[@BrandonWhatTheF]

The problem with Loki is that it's tied to the MCU.

[@HishamA.N_Comicbroe]

Honestly that's what makes it better.

[@cliveroberts8760]

Bang on 100 percent . Not tied to good MCU tied to the current terrible writing MCU

[@jasongreen6826]

@@cliveroberts8760he says… about a good show… written in the current Mcu😂😂💀

[@BrandonWhatTheF]

@@jasongreen6826 he means that good shows in the MCU are the exception rather than the norm these days.

[@UncleJemima]

how is that a problem with Loki?

[@CaseyYam]

Legion and Loki are probably my two favourite 'weird' Marvel properties... it's a shame there was never a crossover.

[@WigantX]

...yet

[@CaseyYam]

🙏@@WigantX

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I need the actors for legion and polaris from FX to come to the MCU during mutant properties. Emma Dumont is literally my favorite actress ever

[@Gomank]

Legion was sooo good

[@Natta44]

I loved Legion! That was amazing and so artsy!

[@Xezian]

I think the best part about Loki is when you realize by saving the multiverse Loki isn't just saving his friends at the TVA, but he is infact saving everyone he's ever loved or cared for, including Thor. More than just ensuring their lives will go on, Loki is ensuring they would've ever existed in the first place, if Loki hadn't saved the multiverse, not only would everyone he loved be dead, but Thor, Odin, Frigga, would have never existed in the first place since there would've been no realities for them to exist within. Loki didn't just save his new friends, he saved all those he ever cared for, past, present, and future.

[@ClairDeLume]

im so thankful they dropped the romance between Sylvie and Loki. at the end of episode 2 of S2, i think he has a realization, and just lets Sylvie go, and moves on from that. and im happy about it. sure, i guess Loki can fall in love with someone. but more importantly, he needs friends. he needs people to love and care for, but not romantically. which is why i thought Mobius's and Loki's little friendship was so sweet, same with his other friends. Mobius saw something in him that no one else did. he gave him the chance to be a good person. and it really worked out. honestly, the entire concept of this show, like the TVA, and every single character in it, i just absolutely love. the writers, composers, actors, just everyone, did an amazing job. in my opinion, LOKI is the best thing since Endgame, and no one can change my mind otherwise

[@rstollenwerk]

Why has no one mentioned Brad Wolfe = BAD WOLF? This is 100% a Doctor Who inspired show

[@MingJianYap]

*gasp*.. Dang!

[@L33Reacts]

Holy shit you're totally right 😂😂

[@FullFatVideos]

Damn!!!!

[@CrankyGrandma]

Ohmigosh. I hadn’t seen that. 😄

[@AirQuotes]

How did I miss that

[@FeelMyFerret]

Whilst there were a couple of episodes that did nothing to move the plot forward. I feel Loki S2 was some of the best MCU since Endgame. It's finale was great, but shows that the series as a whole should have been at this level. But I believe that the fact has been that most MCU entries since Endgame have been subpar. But I also have to note that there has been interference from Marvel executives. I saw a pirated version of The Marvel's. My god did that suck more than a Dyson. The only thing that was remotely decent was Ms Marvel, her family and the cats.

[@williamheller1362]

I've seen a lot of people say that Ep6 retroactively made the middle episodes a lot better. There were definitely lulls, and there wasnt always a focused direction about where the series was going, until episode 6 wrapped everything up so well.

[@MichaelDeNicola]

ok I'll admit it, when you said Loki s2 was awful... I fell for it 😂😂😂

[@spacero953]

bro same

[@O5-council_12]

I was SO angry😂

[@MichaelDeNicola]

@@O5-council_12 I was about to start writing in the comments 🤣

[@pordawg]

One of my favorite parts of this show is that it looks good. It has a fresh and unique style that doesn't look like every other bland churned out mcu movie after endgame.

[@prestonhoffman811]

Loki was so good that I almost forgot I was watching a marvel show

[@alrycaaeveahexendias1236]

It is in my opinion that Loki had what it takes to be a prime candidate as the backbone of MCU after Iron Man. Especially with phase 4/5 being about multiverse and timelines and stuff. Just him doing small cameos in post credits doing TVA shenanigans would have a nice narrative tool to connect the shows together.

[@samcochran8203]

Honestly, Loki acting as the new Nick Fury gathering heroes from across the multiverse to fight the kang war coming up sounds dope

[@acegardianarocrat]

​@@samcochran8203 imagine Nick Fury's "Let me tell you about the Avengers Initiative" line is Loki's "This is gonna sound strange" lol

[@cuegert9895]

​@@acegardianarocratdude, thats actual gold!

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

@@acegardianarocrat OH my god I WISH it was! 😮

[@TheJadedJames]

I instantly thought of Doctor Who and this channel when the final episode hit, Loki's final adventure was the most Doctor Who thing ever and I absolutely loved it. But unlike Doctor Who, since Loki is a serialized miniseries, it could jump around the timeline of the entire show rather than the kind of isolated timey-wimey scenario you'd see in something like Heaven Sent or Big Bang/Pandorica Opens. As for the MCU as a whole, if there is a "problem" with it right now it is just that there is too much of it. Avengers 4 felt like a proper ending for a lot of people and there is no gimmick that will make people care about the MCU as a collective thing again like we did before 2019. The initial Disney+ shows benefited from the fact that the world went a FULL YEAR WITH ZERO MCU CONTENT. And I think in the short term, that is the only thing that could make people stop saying the MCU is in a slump. Marvel didn't release anything for a while people would be starved for content instead of complaining about it.

[@Jtrent]

No EXACTLY!!! Episodes 5 and 6 went so hard, and I thought that they felt like some of the better Doctor Who episodes

[@williamburnett3660]

When it comes to the doctor who, thing I agree with you. But it comes to the other Marvel stuff, I don't. For me, Marvel's primary problem is just a lack of quality control. Same thing for Star Wars. Disney is so adamant about making a buck. It's actively shooting itself in the foot in the long run.

[@TheJadedJames]

@@williamburnett3660 I think if you cut the amount of Marvel/Star Wars shows in half the perception of their quality would increase with no actual changes to the content. This is especially true for the MCU. So many MCU shows drop on Disney+ that you can feel caught up with the movies without ever going to the theater. But what if we only got a max of two each year rather than them being churned out to keep people subscribed.

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

I love the idea of a Thor and Loki final movie that ends the story of both Odinsons

[@diegosalazaralvarado7988]

God damn you scared me with that intro lol.

[@pugman9672]

The more he started ragging on it the more I started to realize it was probably gonna be a joke. I was like “no way he saw all the good character work and didn’t like it” am sure enough I was right.

[@2Horrible]

This is the perfect ending for Loki. Best Marvel Show made.

[@DrippiBean]

A Thor & Loki project is #1 on my marvel wish list

[@ZyliceLiddell]

I want them to reunite! Let the ‘sun on them!’ ☀️

[@haezche]

Ke Huy Quan'a was definitely one of my favorite performance in Loki and maybe one of the best in Marvel as a whole

[@AndrewThoesen]

When Full Fat is going this hard on the MCU you know you’re in trouble. He’s been waaaaay more forgiving than Drinker, Mauler, etc. I’ll be honest, I put Loki on as background chatter and was surprised it had as much heart as it did.

[@HishamA.N_Comicbroe]

Well FFV is just more constructive in his criticisms than the other two who're known for that.

[@IvanMoncure]

If they do a Thor and Loki movie, I really want to see them finally commit to a more mythic, bloody, old-Norse aesthetic and world. Jason Aaron’s God of Thunder worked so well (so much better than a lot of his later work, even) because it so adeptly conveyed the titanic scale and poetic world of these characters. Virtually all of our sources on the Norse gods are poetry and they really do have a lot of beautiful material to mine for these characters.

[@moonwhooper]

This is not just a good marvel show, but a good show

[@Natta44]

I would love a thor and loki movie but i just know that would be a massive risk. Not only because loki has overshadowed Thor for long to the point where in Ragnorok they downplayed lokis role in order for thor to shine. Chris H would never agree to a movie of them two knowing Tom could outshine him because hes the better actor. I think next Thor movie with be him vs Hercules and then they team up. Loki will.appear in Secret wars, maybe mentioned in Kang Dynasty if thats still happening. Mobius has to come back, hes such a good character and clearly the multiversal version of Coulson.

[@rachelespiritu4215]

I was so ready to be mad.

[@TheMaskedJedi999]

I really love the idea of a proper Thor n Loki film

[@Best_Username777]

Two fun facts, Hiddleston rewatched all of his scenes as Loki from the movies and the first season to prep for the role. Fact two: the team consulted McDonald itself to make sure that it was “authentic” the uniforms esthetic and building are accurate to the time.

[@jackbrassil5318]

Commenting before I even watch the video... Loki season 2 is MUCH watch. It's just a solid show and a great continuation from season 1. Don't think about the rest of the MCU being mid as of recent. This is its own show, elevating at a level clear above anything else on Disney+ and is a benchmark for what a marvel show needs to be going forward. Similar to Andor for Star Wars.

[@stephanluclarose]

It's pretty, but it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Kang is still out there, Loki is now Thanos, but even worse, but we're supposed to think he's redeemed as he extinguishes countless lives on a complete whim? OK.

[@saucevc8353]

@@stephanluclarose He didn’t kill anyone? What are you talking about?

[@AllMightyKingBowser]

@@saucevc8353 mate didnt understand anything of the show lol

[@saucevc8353]

@@AllMightyKingBowser Allowing the other timelines to exist doesn’t kill anyone because the TVA is still around to prevent multiversal war.

[@frfras7]

Andor is better though

[@purplehax1091]

loki is what marvel could’ve should’ve and can still be

[@ebonysoldier]

Show was decent up a till that last episode which catapulted it into amazing. What a visual and narrative spectacle. Amazing work. It saddens me that it really helps puts the K dynasty into perspective and Disney may end up scrapping it anyway.

[@anthonyt219]

Ditching the romance plot is probably the reason why the original director from season 1 left the show. I don't blame her. Marvel is one of those think tanks that try to appeal to everybody yet still fuck up somehow

[@VincentAmadeus]

Bro loki finale the best finale ever 🎉

[@douglashenry4006]

Probably should add: apparently it required no reshoots.... a novelty these days for Marvel/Disney

[@GeneralTaco155555a]

Glad to see you covering it, and all the people who agreed with me on the last video about Loki being so great 👍

[@JH-jw7pu]

The Doctor Who influences are very clear and strong in the show, and in regards to Thor and Loki, I would even take just a short movie/feature. I just need to see Thor realize that Loki managed to live up to his potential, as he always believed he could.

[@IHunterF1]

Personally loved this season, haven’t enjoyed much over the past few years but this was very refreshing. I think it’d be dope to see Thor n loki reunite but with that loki ending I think it would difficult to make that work anytime soon

[@cleebe823]

Great review. I also appreciate the design on this one. some real sets, costume design that isn't over done... The cinematography was refreshing too.

[@LikeTheNumeral]

The fact that you used good ole Sloss as reactions made me happy

[@LordSeth-hf8ew]

it just felt good watching a story that they actually spent at least a day or two thinking about, most things were cleared up and connected

[@zacbergart6840]

I agree about the Who feel to Loki.

[@LeMonkeyDaSucc]

The practicality/production is what makes the show so much more than what Marvel normally does. It just all feels tangible, sure there's still CGI but its a additive over a main focus, this is the same thing that sells Andor as well. Its crazy that two unlikely shows are the best things weve gotten out of two of the biggest franchises ever.

[@atomicvinylreviews3420]

I agree, Loki gave me full on Doctor Who vibes at times, and those were typically some of the best parts of the show! Tom Hiddleston has proven time and again that he would be perfectly cast as the Doctor ! I hope it happens one day...

[@samcochran8203]

I wanted him so badly to be announced as the next doctor after David Tennent's brief reprisal, but here's hoping they give him the chance after Ncuti is done

[@atomicvinylreviews3420]

@@samcochran8203 same here

[@TheJoviLovi]

Loki is still better than 95% of the MCU and the Sonyverse combined.

[@MoneyGist]

Lol. Take it easy 😂

[@noobmasterruben5167]

Yeah Sony has no idea how to get us excited for their universe. Cuz its so weird that in Spiderman trilogy they can do just fine but in their villain movies they just wont try harder

[@StarMarine1084]

Not a high bar for sonyverse to be fair lmao

[@RensStoryteller]

FUCK that intro was rough

[@stamatiskon3049]

I haven't watched The Marvels yet so I don't know how bad it is or isn't but I feel that the "MCU is dead" thing is kinda funny. I mean, the one note villain is the MCU's bread and butter, everyone loves the first Iron Man but if the villain was played by any actor that wasn't in the Jeff Bridges category would he be considered a great villain? I understand that with the passing of the more popular heroes the "problems" that this kind of movies have stand out more but it's not like these problems never existed. Sure, there were some movies that could be considered really good outside of the genre but the same could be said for some of the phase 4 and 5 content only, somehow, these good shows or movies are considered now the exception. For me Loki and The Marvels (or Love & Thunder, since I've watched it) are equa parts of the same universe, if you want the good one you'll have to have the bad one too. Is that a bad deal? As long as the bad is entertaining enough and not corrupting our minds no, that's a good deal!

[@BEGSHOPPINGMZANSIZA]

Awesome video. Loki was incredible to watch!

[@yohanesbobbysanjaya3541]

after watching The Marvels and Loki i am sure.... Marvel Released The Marvels right before Loki Finale to lessen the damage it will get lmao.. seriously The Marvels feel like half-baked movie that chopped and re-assembled in post production while Loki genuinely felt as a fully fleshed fully realized show

[@jonathandoering6499]

I'm so glad you watched it. It's a real hope for the future of Marvel.

[@bendixanderson4882]

Love what you said about the Time Loom. For me, the Time Loom started out as a kind of meaningless challenge... but by the time I saw that last show, it was kind of great. It helped once I understood that the Time Loom was a giant meat grinder.

[@swocsims198]

With all the Doctor Who commentary here I do feel its worth mentioning that Loki s1 director Kate Herron has been scooped up to be writing an episode of the upcoming DW season, so definitely on the same page with the similar vibes between the shows.

[@ben-tendo]

I finally got around to watching Season 2 of Loki after giving myself a Marvel break for about a year, and I'm glad I did, some of the best work in the whole franchise and gives an original MCU character get a worthwhile conclusion. However I did feel a lot of Who in Season 2 as you implied yourself.

[@Snuzzled]

I really respect your opinion so I was just very curious when you said Loki was bad and wanted to know why you felt that way. Because while I loved it, I know it wasn't without its flaws and it's always good to hear other perspectives.

[@namor2x2x]

am i the only one to realize this is finally the first d+ show without a rushed finale, well actually this and andor

[@TheJadedJames]

Andor was clearly going for a second season though. It’s final episode wasn’t rushed because it wasn’t actually trying to wrap up any overarching storylines. Loki had to bring itself to a definitive end

[@ryankwon8785]

Loki is the only MCU story worth watching after Endgame since it perfectly ties to the Infinity Saga and now the Multiversal Saga. Overall, Loki, Mobius, and Ouroborus are the MVPs of the Loki show because of how fun, funny, and interesting they are as characters.

[@MikchNick]

Years ago, when I read the Esad Ribic Thor comics, I really wanted to see something akin to them realized cinematically, unfortunately the fourth thor movie by taika which was heavily influenced by those comics, at least on the surface, failed at(or rather did not even attempt)recreating even a fraction of their atmosphere or tone, instead that property was sadly wasted on a junk comedy. But I think the last episode of loki came close to capturing that strange eerie folkloric scope in a classic sci-fi setting. it was surprisingly touching and melancholic without feeling cold or unfulfilling, which can often happen in stories dealing with time travel or free will or other head scratcher themes. The project felt like it was handled with care and effort. thumbs up from me

[@irksam7752]

The initial Loki takedown completely got me and then the Palpatine monologue was hilarious - phenomenal XD

[@FullFatVideos]

Hahaha! Goooood

[@boopadoop385]

I ended up binging season 2 of loki, after not really being happy with Disney and the way they treated animators, and not really gelling with the tv shows. It was last Sunday, I was bored and thought "I'll try one episode" and ended up emotionally destroyed by the end of the day. At first some of the science with the loom didn't feel super well explained but the characters and chemistry carried me through to episode 4 and jsut wow. Ten years with this character, and I forgot that Tom Hiddleston actually helped produced the show, and I can't but help feel that's why it worked so well. He understood the character and put that connection back to Avengers, and Thor like UGHHHH. He finally got the throne he wanted but had to face with his ultimate fear

[@ginam.6787]

I was gonna come for you so hard😂. I was doing chores and listening and yelled NO NO NO 😂😂

[@jetcarddude]

Masterpiece, best finish that I can remember and I am ancient. The whole show is a gem.

[@gagglegames]

Just the fact that Loki just bothers to end makes it utterly superb compared to most MCU properties.

[@gagglegames]

Also damn I reckon Tom Hiddleston would make a great Doctor

[@samcochran8203]

@@gagglegames Indeed he would, he's already a prime candidate simply because of how well he handles the technobabble

[@samcochran8203]

Also yeah, the fact that they were that confident in how they were ending his story tells you all you need to know about the quality put into this show

[@Chimera723]

Loki is one of my favorite TV shows ever, it's just too short... I'm happy other people like it too 😊

[@Gamingchairenthusiast122]

My favorite part is when odin shows up and says are you the god of knives or loki god of stories, I cried so much.

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

Honestly if they had leaned into more of Loki's actual relationships instead of just the new ones in the show I would've enjoyed it way more. Let him get closure with his father and brother, this is a Loki who is JUST recovering from being manipulated by an infinity stone and learning his whole life and everything his father told him was a lie. let him have a tearful reunion with thor and apologize for everything. Let him see Odin and have Odin tell him some of what he said in Ragnarok, tell him he was a true Asgardian and Odinson, tell him that he doesn't need to be defined by what he once was. Have Odin tell him what a lie really is. Tell him that the god of mischief is free to break free from the chains the universe is putting on him That legitimately would've made me love the series way more. I enjoy tom hiddleston, but it's not really "Loki" we see in this show, it's "original godlike character who is humbled #6," and it doesnt even seem interested in exploring his roots.

[@YZee-ij1uv]

ok this legit made me lol 🤣

[@YZee-ij1uv]

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 I also completely agree with this, BUT I think they'll save the Odinson family arc for the films. There's no way we're not getting a Loki / Thor reunion at some point. But I do agree - I loved how Loki's family dynamics tied in with Season 1 Episode 1, and would have been nice to have a few more nods to it, although there were a few sprinkled throughout the series.

[@overheatedeskim054]

Loki is the new Tony Stark in so many ways

[@cowmaster3603]

a fun theory is that the time slipping was planed from avengers 1 if you look at the fight between Thor and Loki in avengers 1 there is a brief moment at which Loki looks around with pity and confusion

[@nescaffier1524]

It's interesting how time travel in End Game felt like a troupe played to resolve an impossible set up and played for fan service and cheap fourth wall laughs. But in Loki it feels organic, natural to the universe. It's almost like world building matters!

[@therockphilosopher1678]

I have to admit you did get me with that fake out

[@zacbergart6840]

suggestion for a title: Thor and Loki: Brothers Found

[@bornassassin2111]

Loki especially season 2 was amazing in my opinion. We got to see something that never happened in either of the films Loki has been in,actual growth of his character.And we now understand why he didn't change all this time,it was because he wasn't allowed/meant to.We saw Loki in a new light,making the ultimate sacrifice for everyone,so they could live their lives,breeding life into every other timeline etc. In my opinion Thor the Dark World and this series are the best showings of Loki as a character. In the film we get to see how much he actually cared about and loved his mother and in the series we get to see him first watching it all transpire,his mother's death,his father's and brother's love for him,his own death.His growth began from Ep 1 of Season 1 and I was glued to my monitor. Great work from everyone involved in this series.

[@trevturp6891]

Both this show and Wandavision don't feel like they could only be told in The Television medium.

[@shed117]

Would love to know what Morffet thought of this show and RTD. Bet they would have loved to write some of the eps if they had a chance. This show really did out Doctor Who in many ways. This really is top tier Marvel writing 👏 well done indeed 👌🏽

[@Seatly372]

Random thing but the pie thing is probably a reference to MIB 3 another movie about time traveling

[@ddwow566]

My biggest complaint about Loki was how his development could’ve been fleshed out more naturally throughout the 2 seasons. Still the finale was gold

[@nalday2534]

What's your opinion on OG Loki in films?

[@joshdunne8792]

5:20 that quote, that desire from the writer to the develop characters is what makes great movies for me. It's why Iron Man, Captain America and Thor are the holy trinity of the Infinity saga, it's why Loki is the shining light from Thor 2011 to this post Endgame mess. Loki is the stand out alongside the Guardians of the galaxy. When characters are prioritised over spectacle and money we get Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War, the Gaurdians of the Galaxy trilogy, (Shang Chi an honourable mention post endgame of a great movie for me), Tobeys Spiderman, James Gunns Suicide Squad, The Batman and The Dark Knight Trilogy. When movies are rushed and micro managed for studio interests we get Josstice League, Captain Marvel, She Hulk, Suicide Squad and so many more duds

[@Jordan-pm1vf]

Bro the clickbait has a crazy, because it’s definitely not stale

[@joshhiroti]

Loved it.

[@golden0rose]

ngl you had me on the first half

[@MadamInsanity88]

I can imagine it now. Thor and Loki: Thunder and Time.

[@Xemnii]

Got me in the first half ngl 😂😂

[@DarkKnightBatman420]

I think Sesskasays, The Stars Themselves, and Funnylilgalreacts all mentioned Dr. Who during their Loki viewing. 2 of 3 for sure.

[@Fourmath]

Getting the Marvels and Loki Season 2 finale on the same day was amazing as the MCU gave us two great things in one day

[@a.noriega-gonzalez6801]

amazing, imo… that the mythical trickster manages to complete the arc (e.g.: Prometheus, Shiva, Odin…)

[@acecarwell471]

Lmao i was cleaning .y desk and phone with bleach wipes, when you trolled on it beingawful. My head cocked sideways so quickly. lmao 😂

[@papercrowe8772]

God I loved this series, we had a great time watching it. When he spent a century learning physics just to realize it didn’t work, we laughed so hard

[@owenjolley351]

*What are your thoughts on the Doctor Who 60th anniversary episode?*

[@datguy3581]

As far as The Marvels go, I think the quantity of accusations of misogyny is overblown. I think most people are criticizing that vocal minority of misogynistic anti fans. From what I've seen, most people are fine with criticism as long as it isn't rooted in misogyny.

[@MichaelSD91]

Thor & Loki would be a wonderful epilog to these characters. I'd want Kenneth Branagh to direct or James Gunn as director.

[@ZyliceLiddell]

Kenneth Branagh! He’s classy and brought us Thor & Loki in the first place!

[@nalday2534]

Neither of them are interested

[@tk24life]

I don't assume someone is a bigot if they disliked The Marvels. But I am suspicious of people who claim it's the worst film ever. Most people will acknowledge it wasn't a great film, but let's not pretend there isn't a significant portion of the fandom who decries the movie for being woke despite zero socio-political messaging just because it has female leads. People who use terms like M-SHE-U. "Fine, I'll watch Loki," is my sentiment exactly. The multiverse stuff feels too un-grounded to be engaging, and the Loki heel-face arc has gotten old. Loki's sacrifice at the hands of Thanos felt like a satisfying conclusion to Loki's character arc. But I keep hearing that Loki is the savior of the MCU, so it may be worth a watch.

[@ZyliceLiddell]

But he quite literally becomes the ‘saviour of the MCU’ by the end of this show!

[@frfras7]

Stfu lil bro it fucking sucks

[@ceso_5228]

was that warningless the marvels spoilering at the start?

[@orangeapples]

I forgot who said it, but they didn’t see things as comparing the strengths and weaknesses of Season 1 vs Season 2, but rather Season 2 is the 2nd half of the show. Loki as a 12 episode show is Amazing with 2 great halves.

[@LaLa-oj5ct]

Weird that Vod from fresh meat was the villain in this. Can't wait for Will from the inbetweeners to be the next villain.

[@Natta44]

😭 I don't know why but I think Will would kill it

[@PuzzleManPuzzleOlogy.]

ok so I might just be high as fuck on 2CB but that part around 1:22 absolutely fucking killed me "when u look at the world thru a window, it makes it AWESOME, like tv!" what is that from please don't tell me that's from an actual Marvel show? Shit almost made me pee my pants I was not expecting that.

[@JustaKeven]

I’m just glad that the show gave an out for kang I just never felt him being as menacing as thanos. All other iterations of him handled his character far better than the mcu so it’s best to just look forward.

[@BlazingWings03]

You caught me I was rushing to the comments

[@uCruz_]

I agree with Thor & Loki, cuz they are both loveble characters, that if write with love, would make a great billion dollar movie

[@BushmasterH]

I was hoping by the end of loki we would get sylvie to finally become enchantress