"Metalcore is generic trash"

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

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[@lello7136]

ya

[@Crazytomm]

Next week. Metal core is back!

[@goam5354]

The St. Anger snare was recreated and perfected on the final Artificial Brain album.

[@HockeyNutt44]

So how to make clickbait videos?

[@boredgamer1149]

I'm just giving you crap lol you didn't have to change the title Crazytom -

[@JHAN1212]

People say "It's too compressed" when they don't know anything about production, but pretend that they do so people will care about their opinion.

[@wyattcole5452]

As in dense? I love dense music but I can’t stand today’s heavy core, metalcore, hardcore, whatever other names they’re giving to subgenres that might have slight differences

[@gtabro1337]

@@wyattcole5452Not dense in the sense of lots of sounds right after each other, compression cuts the dynamics to make all sound sources sound more “even” in terms of level (loudness). Done tastefully you get a professional-sounding record, but overdone and the song becomes a cacophony with barely any ups and downs. Of course as with everything in music it’s a subject of taste and intent and also varies from genre to genre.

[@goner.9989]

@@wyattcole5452no, compression in mixing is very different. It doesn’t make the music dense, rather makes the sound of the music leveled out and slightly reducing dynamics.

[@wyattcole5452]

@@goner.9989 ah yes, when metal got so heavy they had to organize the heaviness

[@GallowayJesse]

I saw some guy on the Rig Talk Facebook group say he'd never use a compressor on his guitar because he doesn't want to turn his guitar signal into "square waves" Guess nobody told him that sweet cranked toob amp tone & speaker breakup is literally compression. muh pure signal!

[@ZackSeifMusic]

The problem I find, is that the majority of new bands will start off with a pretty cool unique kind of sound and style, and then by the second or third album they just sound like every other band on Octane. Which I totally get. It's nice to get paid for your music, and it's awesome to be a part of bigger festivals and packages, and it's great to have a bigger fan because you have a more accessible sound. It's a give and take.

[@gasmaskestore8018]

I've been a professional mix/master engineer for almost a decade now and even I have a hard time telling whenever a rock band mix is "TOO COMPRESSED" or not, people just love talking shit

[@mattwhite399]

I think you’re spot on that people have no idea what they’re talking about when they say “over compressed.” They’ve heard it said, and they repeat it. I think the phrase they’re reaching for would be, “overproduced.” That’s a generic term, but people who aren’t audio engineers don’t have the words to really describe what they don’t like about a production. That’s me giving the massive benefit of the doubt that the people who are complaining about “too compressed are actually hearing something in the audio production they don’t like. Many probably are being little b******. 😂

[@triplesixmafia]

just like how people say "remastered" when they actually mean remixed 💀 "remastering" is a compression process that happens after everything is already mixed, mixing refers to the act of re-arranging the dynamic/volume of the tracks themselves. Yet so many still use these terms interchangeably. Everyone is a record production expert in the youtube comment section

[@gasmaskestore8018]

@@triplesixmafia exactly, 98% of the dynamics are in the mix itself, rest on mastering

[@gasmaskestore8018]

@@mattwhite399 nothing will be ever overproduced, mixes, masters and songs are just abandoned, never finished, so IMO there is no such thing as "overproduced" my 2 cents anyway

[@AmiliaCaraMia]

@@triplesixmafiaThis is true. To further that, mastering is generally very broad strokes processing over the whole mix or specific stems (all drums, vocals, etc). That processing could be compression, eq, volume boosts, or widening of each section of the song. It's a final polish to make sure it's listenable on as many sound systems as possible. The more you know 🙌

[@graymind]

Finn, what you're saying about Metalcore definitely has validity. I think it's possible that because you may not listen to modern metalcore as much as some of your viewers (understandable), it's hard to pick out different bands' distinct sounds. For example, when I hear Invent Animate or Currents, I know it's them because I personally feel they've created their own distinct voicing of the genre. Whether the genre is played out or not is a separate topic, and I actually don't feel it really matters that much...because there's still people like me out there who will be in the mood to hear that style of music throughout my week. I actually feel as though Metalcore was burnt out between 2015-2021 or so (which is when I was listening to other genres significantly more), with a lot of Metalcore bands going the Nu Metal direction or Octane-core direction, and now I feel like a lot of them are actually coming back to their roots. Architect's new single is a great example of that, and people love that shit. I think because the prime of Metalcore for people in their late 20s/early 30s (such as myself), where a lot of us were introduced to and engrossed in the genre was over a decade ago at this point (Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack, TDWP, ABR, and many more), there's actually a nostalgic draw to have a NEWER version of that era NOW. Bands like Dying Wish are a great example of that as well. I think they're doing well because they have a modern version of the mid 2000s sound, and people in their late 20s/early 30s miss that sound. If they came out with their most recent album in 2014-2015, I don't think it would have been received nearly as well. In other words, Nostalgia is a helluva drug (particularly for millennials), and artists who capitalize on that are smart, in my opinion. Overall, I don't think Invent Animate or Currents are doing anything groundbreaking with Metalcore necessarily (AND I agree that Metalcore is a bit stale overall), but I do feel there are some bands like these 2 I mentioned who have established themselves now as staples in the genre, especially because neither really made a huge deviation from Metalcore to experiment with other genres since their inceptions. I also genuinely enjoy that sound and like to mix it in with other things I listen to, and I think there's a lot of people out there who feel the same. Everyone knows that Metalcore will likely never be mainstream, but I think there will always be some semblance of a demand for it. Great video as always, appreciate all the thoughts and conversation starters!

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

I feel like the scene is more stale now than it was in that 2015 - 2018 era.

[@feynlandnoize]

man can't agree more since I'm also from the same time period, it actually doesn't matter if metalcore reaches same level of signeficant as it did in the 2010's , but if we only talking about numbers and streams, metalcore is at its best state than ever - on one hand we have bands like BMTH, Bad Omens, Sleep Token, knocked loose breaking out of the circle to reach a wider audience, on the other hand we have bands like Silent Planet, IA, Currents, who constantly offering bangers for audiences like us. Finn was coming from the punk/hardcore scene, it's understandable for him to not get that "unique sound" you mentioned, just like in my ear pretty much all the hardcore/punk bands sound the same lol if I made a video about punk/hardcore I will trigger even more angers in their circle that's for sure. that's why even if me and my favorite bands were included in multiple of his jokes I still respect this channel like a lot,

[@Jwrll]

Yea I agree. IA has some super interesting music, but he always comes back to their slow boring songs to highlight. They’ve been doing their thing for like 10 years and it’s always been unique.

[@jeffreysamazinglyfantastic165]

Completely agree... yes it's stale, but fuck me I just love it and always will. Plus right now there are literally dozens of bands that may sound the same but they are executing the genre at a 100% perfection level (Invent Animate, Silent Planet, Currents, Thousand Below, Secrets, The Plot In You, Dayseeker, Architects, Johnny Booth, Polaris, etc ad infinitum.) I think I've made my point LoLs

[@Trembled]

100% agree that metalcore has become pretty recycled and LP inspired choruses run a bit wild in genre. But I’m trying to understand how Invent Animate fit that criteria. Even without the vocals you would immediately recognise them. They’ve been doing their thing for over 10 years. IMO an argument that they’re copying other bands is a reach, sure they have influences creeping in, but I don’t think they’re ripping off anyone.

[@itsWAHOO2012]

Just djent

[@aylinespino]

Its easy to hate on IA cause all they do is mind their business and make music they put more than 2 days of thought into. Its easy to shit in em and say theyre trash. But bands like FIR we have to defend and leave alone cause Ronnie is just “speaking his mind”. Makes no sense

[@kage6613]

Come on bro. The only reason people ever even liked them was cause their first two records sound exactly like Discoveries/Singularity era Northlane.

[@kage6613]

​@@aylinespinowtf are you even talking about? Who said anything is 'trash'? Huh??

[@carterpatterson9975]

I love Finn, but it’s known and he has said he doesn’t like Progressive Metalcore. Which is fine. I disagree with this opinion as like you said both ERRA and IA is not recycled and both bands have a very distinct sound.

[@about7grams]

Speaking of liking Creed now, i went to a cover show last week with bands covering Rage Against the Machine, Creed and the headliner was Alice in Chains. The Creed cover band had everyone in the room going absolutely buck. When With Arms Wide Open came on half the people started crying and all i could think was "damn....scott stapp would love this"

[@cjmitch91]

Sounds like a fun time. I'd be telling those Rage boys they better be playing in the parking lot for free tho 😂

[@josephevans6293]

Gay

[@wjackter]

I can't stand Creed, i felt all the riffs were too similar. Alter Bridge had more freedom, not my favorite but better

[@morningstar577]

When you are with meeeeeeee I'm freeeeeeee

[@BanGachaVideos]

@@wjackterIf you think the riffs are all similar, check out the less popular stuff. Would recommend “One” or “Torn”.

[@hulluporo9067]

Fun fact: The founders of Adidas and Puma were brothers.

[@PORTALIAN_Makes_Bass]

YES. This story is fascinating. After reading everything, I think Adi Dassler was a butthole, but his son seems like a decent dude with better marketing skills than his father. For example, did you know that Adidas was introduced to America in secret because Adi Dassler didn't think America could handle his products? They missed a huge opportunity in the 70's and allowed Nike to thrive because of bad choices.

[@bdc995]

They were also big supporters of the German Nazi party

[@lewisb85]

And they were both nazis!

[@sharkmilkyway]

@@PORTALIAN_Makes_Bassadidas fumbled to nike so many times

[@BerlinKlub-SAV187]

idegaf..only saw the title but metalcore is life hardcore metalcore *shrug*

[@Schellnino1994]

Thanks for the Invent Anime recc, they are FIRE!!

[@Vixfor_]

Dude, have you heard the Heavener album after all?

[@junaidmoody8342]

What is unique about that album...sounds like an album from 2013/14

[@Vixfor_]

@@junaidmoody8342 It seems like my comment have been auto-removed for several times already. You should che c k m y x p a g e, i pinned my overall thoughts about this album and why it's genre-defining, there. I won't post here because too much text and too much to explain while i also removed the original text and now it's basically a screenshot, too lazy to convert into text.

[@WoWMinGM]

@@junaidmoody8342 which one?

[@darealalia9408]

@@junaidmoody8342yeah definitely not

[@Vixfor_]

@@darealalia9408 My comment explaining why it's genre-defining was removed several times. I won't post too much text and anything but this album combines: Progressive Metalcore, Shoegaze, Thall and Ambient into perfection. Also it has the most unique vocal melodies and choruses, especially on songs like Purity Weeps and Shade Astray, it has interesting structural fusion in some songs and sometimes it feels like a completely different structure which is not originally a metalcore. They're not anywhere generic. Since they have thall, you can't compare them to none of the bands like Architects and Currents, IA are a thousand heads above. Also unique breakdowns like the one on False Meridian and so on... In general it feels like this album boosts some of the different types of Progressive Metalcore and it's very diverse. The reason why it may seem samey is because the first four songs have the same key but it doesn't damage the album in terms of it's diversity. This is only some part of explanation, i'm not speaking of emotional impact, ambient-directed production and so on. Sadly i cannot publish the link to a document where i explain everything because it gets auto-removed it seems

[@HaleThePanda]

I can understand that people wouldn't think that a band like Invent Animate isn't an example of "the future of metalcore." In my opinion, it doesn't have to be. I personally like music that makes me feel something strong or some kind of emotion that i often feel disconnected from generally in life, and that happens while listening to Invent Animate and other bands along the same trajectory. Sometimes innovation isn't necessary to make a really good song that invokes emotion. Just my take though 🫡

[@alejandroxan]

You were spot on with the metalcore take. I'm glad there are bands like August Burns Red who keep their formula but tweak it just enough to keep it fresh. Familiar yet engaging.

[@mattpennell4243]

I think Invent is doing great stuff for the scene. I first saw them 3 years ago as the second band on a lineup with Alpha Wolf, Like Moths to Flames and Polaris and they wrapped up their first headlining tour a few months ago. I think the song in the video (Without a Whisper) is super accessible for people who aren’t fans of the genre to get exposed to them and listen to more of their music and other bands in the scene. They’re all cool guys too

[@feynlandnoize]

that tour was crazy, I was there too, that's my first time seeing alphawolf and I was shocked. but still, IA got the best performance even without the vocal in the Toronto show

[@a1ansxe]

Agreed.

[@derekbastien2181]

Invent animate is amazing I’ll die on the hill

[@isaacdruin]

Ye

[@METALBIRB]

Invent Animate fans are coming for you Finn. One of the most intense fan bases I’ve dealt with

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Yeah they’re absolute pain!

[@jdestrada6281]

I have met 0 Invent, Animate fans besides myself :( where are they all hiding?

[@Vixfor_]

​@@jdestrada6281 Dude keeps saying that IA fans are intense and annoying while none of them care lmao

[@GallowayJesse]

oh lawd they comin'

[@2xRainb0w]

Why are you two fighting ghosts? Acting like people disagreeing with you is them coming for you is soybean behaviour.

[@Ty2595]

Ive never been attacked so hard by a KZbinr and it's hilarious 🤣 I got bk last night I ordered it off my S23 ultra and picked it up wearing my Adidas sweatpants

[@benjaminwatt2436]

the only problem with Finn's second place rant is his take on android. I'm mean sure andriod isn't great, but Iphones suck. like they were awesome 15 years ago, but when is the last time you saw iphone come out with a new feature or any improvement that we haven't seen since 2015?

[@DrDipsh1t]

​@@benjaminwatt2436they weren't even awesome 15 years ago. I had one 15 years ago lol. And you couldn't send pictures messages on them without jailbreaking them until they released a patch for the 3G (1st gen had no MMS, 2nd with jail break) when the 3GS was released. That's right, the first 3 generations of iPhone couldn't send picture messages stock

[@Ruddline]

BK has its moments man, a well cooked Whopper is the best fast food burger but 9 times out of 10 its mid

[@kage6613]

@@benjaminwatt2436 my man's living in 2030

[@prophetsatirical8946]

@@benjaminwatt2436iPhones don’t suck. They do exactly what they should do and don’t try to upsell you on useless features. It’s a black rectangle that needs to make calls, send texts, and cruise a handful of apps. Android has a new gimmick every year that I used to fall for and I don’t miss it at all.

[@macdmacd7896]

every one has musics and foods and fashions that fit their memory. every one hates what hurts their memories. and then god created the internet. all hells broke loose. freedom of hurt speech.

[@limesplays2420]

I think at this point Finn purposely says "here's the thing" so the BVB clip can be cut in and I'm all for it

[@elaceyb]

It always makes my day

[@Lucaeus]

as you know, metal is like an apple: everything's good but the core.

[@RobbCorp]

Ok how tf do you go from 311 to goregrind?!?!? Thanks for that made me smile.

[@Jasonmakesvideo]

the snare sir

[@empiyrr2133]

I’m confused about the Invent Animate take since Invent Animate have a unique sound and choosing heavener as the song for the example I think is the wrong song it’s meant to be soft and ambient but still is recognisable however I do understand if he has something wrong with the singing as a lot of metalcore involves maybe a bit too much singing at times

[@Vixfor_]

Don't waste your time bro, they will never understand this. They still call Progressive Metalcore bands a Djentcore

[@airsicklowlander7756]

“Anything that is hated now will be loved in 10 years” I think a lot of this is survivorship bias. A lot of things just end up getting hated into obscurity, never to be remembered again.

[@nu-metalfan2654]

@airsicklowlander7756. Yep that’s true, most music scenes and genres fade into obscurity or is looked bad upon in the future with regret. Dubstep is the prime example here, it was a fad from 2010 to 2014, and now 10 to 14 years later its aged extremely bad. And Dubstep was fucking ridiculed at the time as well. Trap/Mumble Rap and KPoP I think in 10 to 15 years time will be looked upon like Dubstep is looked at today, a time people want to forget ever happened. Very few genres are looked at positively 10/15/20 years after they are gone. The most hated genre of music ever in Disco is a long story that you could write a book on, it was loved in the 70’s, until everyone hated it, and people hated it so much it coined the term ‘deader than Disco’. Bands have tried to revive Disco and have been ridiculed and hated because of that *Cough The Scissor Sisters Cough*.

[@Requilith]

​@@nu-metalfan2654i completely disagree on mumble rap, I actually think it was really hated on and made fun of when it was popular but I see a lot more people praising it now than when it was at its peak, like lil pump for example, well maybe not the best example but it's real.

[@Bl4k3.]

the concert thing is interesting. plenty of these new fans are teens who are going to their first concert post covid and have skipped multiple years of normal social skill building, so maybe thats got something to do with it. i had many friends when i was young and went to shows who would "teach" me things like dont cross ur arms and all the regular concert et.

[@Okla_Soft]

I’m proud of you for bringing up 311 when you talked about the beat snare sounds. I was like “he better mention 311 😂” They’re one of my favorite bands of all time and they put on ridiculous live shows, still to this day

[@subparnaturedocumentary]

for real though besides having an S tier name chad sexton is an S tier drummer

[@Jasper-Holland]

Invent Animate hate is undeserved

[@XRP2Arkansas]

I grew up on AC/DC and I still fall into a stint of listening to Flogging Molly and Dropkick Murferys every few years. I feel like this video hit me in some many ways lol

[@billygreenbean7119]

About the pit. I wanna stick up for the young crowd as a guy near 40. I haven’t been in a pit since before Covid but December 10th in Sac at a Microwave/Menzingers show, the pit was awesome. The young dudes were doing it exactly right. Rough but also looking out properly if anyone went down. Depends on the scene I think and mid town Sacramento passes the vibe check

[@jayscaping]

I guess the reason I like invent animate is because I've consciously not paid attention to djentcore since like 2013 so didnt even realize its been the same since then, and discovered invent animate in 2022 and it reignited my interest in the genre for the first time since like Number[s]

[@lea.christine.]

IA is amazing and idc who says otherwise. They had my AOTY in 2023, and their headlining tour was insanely good. ☺️

[@jayscaping]

@@lea.christine. they had my album of 2023 too and i have been out of metal for like 8 years. The ambience, the catchy riffs and hooks, the epic atmosphere, everything is just incredibly well done. Reminds me of what I loved about both Woe, Is Me and Tesseract in the early 2010s. I've skimmed through other bands' catalogs that are big in the scene at the moment and idk how anyone can say their music sounds the same

[@lea.christine.]

@@jayscaping Awesome, so glad to hear. I’m fine if someone doesn’t like them, but to specifically call them out seems low in my opinion. Considering they are literally top tier metal core right now. The ambience is next level! 🤌✨

[@jasonsandoval9435]

For some reason with certain bands it's like Finn hates on them for being popular, he plays 10 seconds of a video and just hates on it without giving it a chance. Doesn't even give much of a reason like with Chevelle, Deftones, and Mudvayne.

[@kage6613]

@@lea.christine. lol...this comment is EXACTLY what Finn is talking about. he's not picking on them, he even says he feels bad about it cause they're just his go-to example. but you are here proving his point that they are a hype band people praise. and why? ~the ambience~. okay...but does that do anything to push metalcore forward as a style? no, it's just them developing a sound. the fact that that is "top tier metalcore" is DEPRESSING and that is EXACTLY FINN'S POINT. but y'all just hate that he doesn't like your favorite bands so you miss the forest for the trees every time and don't listen to what he says. you just react to how it made you feel

[@mattkraig]

Every time I like a band (DGD, Invent Animate, Sleep Token), Finn destroys me and my character 😭😂

[@Frederick0220]

He also hates I Prevail and SOAD for some bizarre reason

[@HTJason_S12]

​@@Frederick0220 I get I prevail, I never found them interesting. Still don't get the dislike for SOAD, though.

[@atomicpunk2360]

4:40 Limp Bizkit has always been great. I’m glad people appreciate them more now than they did years ago. Fantastic musicians, especially Wes Borland and his badass guitar work. I’ve always loved them.

[@gigidygigidy6078]

The reason some genres get stuck in time is because if there's a slight change it will be called something else. I think there are too many subgenres because of this.

[@feynlandnoize]

that's why we had the KSE core era, the Asking Alexandria core era, the BMTH sempiternal era, the Periphery era, and the Doomsday era. they all had their all unique beauty in it

[@knightartorias374]

haven't watched the video yet but saying metalcore is generic trash is a pretty cold take, i'm not gonna lie

[@davu9027]

Cold take but Hot Garbage

[@Nestorglass]

generic, yes. trash, no. mostly

[@jdestrada6281]

It's an entire genre of one really cool riff. And we love it.

[@Vivi_9]

It's the only decent modern type of metal lol

[@OneTapKap]

Bro is offering “coaching” all he does is drama and thinks he randomly “figured out the way to get millions of views” yawnnn

[@jeffreysamazinglyfantastic165]

I personally disagree with this take about metalcore... yes, there are a million bands who sound the same… however it's not always about evolving the sound. Sometimes you just love the way a genre sounds and right now there are literally dozens of bands doing metalcore at a God tier level. The genre has matured and is now really really good at what it does. Just another viewpoint on the subject!

[@blackcatfancy]

Metalcore is popular still because it's honestly not bad. It's fine if people don't like it but it makes sense.

[@caseyjones5145]

Its hard to judge ac/dc because they are so old. they didnt need a dynamic, varied sound because rock music was for getting drunk & parties back then. Get the beer, get the ac/dc album, get your jean jacket on etc...

[@benjaminwatt2436]

true. like most legacy bands, they were great for a reason, but you either like that sound or you don't. no getting around it

[@DJ-pp4mt]

Invent Animate is metalcore perfection.

[@Vixfor_]

Invent Animate and Killswitch Engage are my favorite metalcore bands of all time so far

[@DJ-pp4mt]

@@Vixfor_ good shit man.

[@christianm1989]

I love Invent Animate. Don’t understand the hate lol.

[@DJ-pp4mt]

@@christianm1989 I didn't even know there was hate tbh. They are melodic, and are very unique which sets them apart from other metalcore. Heavaner was my top album of last year 100%

[@lea.christine.]

They are amazing 🙌

[@stateofclarity-official9311]

I hardly think “heavener” single is a good example of how invent animate typically sounds. 😂 It’s a good song, but that’s like the only song they have that sounds like that. Try “immolation of night” or “cloud cascade.” - literally nothing generic about it

[@happybeejv]

I knew metalcore was on its Way out when bands started getting on the radio by putting out singles that sound like every rock song on the radio. Because radio rock is its own genre of music. The sound of radio rock comes from a mixture of 70s arena rock ballads, 80s hair metal ballads, 90s/00s post grunge/nu metal ballads, and 00s/10s emo ballads. Until ever rock song that normies know about are down tempo wall of distortion. Even though the songs i listen to by myself are all up tempo or dynamic. And rhythmically complex

[@SP-mf9sh]

My line number at the DMV today was 311. I thought of your channel 😂 I waited more than one hour Amber was not the color of my energy.

[@queensofthedthrone8267]

The song St. Anger itself is exempt from any and all wrongdoings the community throws at the album as a whole. The snare fits perfectly there (but is troddingly, and too-punishingly, present throughout the album). The verses being a reaction to post-grunge, and the lightning in a bottle timing of the themes of the song being about a prison, is perfect. The chorus “clear… fear” genuinely sound like a 1980 proto-hardcore band reading from a lurics sheet ripped out of their wide ruled notebook, with ridges and all. Perfect song, goes on just as long you would want a song like that to last (not longer or shorter) and I am here to say my 11 year old self was CORRECT to choose to listen to this song. One of Metallica’s best, top 10 if not top 5.

[@nolovedrjones9668]

This is amazing parody

[@danielbecerra2230]

they needed a producer that understood that those songs needed to be 3 minutes max. and someone like Albini to record the "filth era swans" snare they were going for.

[@Leave_The_Hall_69]

Lol thats a take

[@kage6613]

@@danielbecerra2230 lmfao @ metallica recorded by Albini. think he'd do it? 😂

[@danielbecerra2230]

Who knows

[@BretSilverberg]

Here's a take: I love Erra and Invent Animate but I ALSO agree with everything said here

[@bl4ckLlama]

Metalcore has always had a bit of a place, I think the hate comes from the fact that it splays over so many of the metal genre lines. Not saying I was a pioneer, but was in a local band in New England when Overcast, 100 Demons, Killswitch, etc. were just starting. We were all "90's music" kids who just happened to lean into metal more than anything else. We'd open rehearsals with Anthrax and then listen to Whitney Houston while on a beer break and then blast Run-DMC or the Beasties on the way to D'angelos for food. Long story short, we were all music fans that were into metal and always wanted it heavier. So band members would bring bits and pieces. I was the OSDM fan in our band, and remember adding in the death metal growls to one of our earliest songs. Genre purists and pretentious "name thee song" neckbeards are the worst offenders.

[@ph03beuwu]

link ur music if its anywhere :>

[@perlundgren7797]

I'd say you also have to add the mainstream appeal for this to make sense. Genre purists are a breed of their own, but crossing genre lines in itself wasn't/isn't necessarily a road to ostracism. Opeth was highly respected in metal circles around the time you're talking about, just to take an obvious example.

[@b33ft0n6]

​@perlundgren7797 I love Opeth, but I find that incorrect. Tons of death metal boards joke about how soft and not death metal they are now while always acknowledging how good blackwater part is/was. I love their newer prog stuff but it definitely DOES get some hate. Death Metal fans tend to have a good portion not fond of clean singing and heavy leans into lots of long soft breaks in my experience.

[@perlundgren7797]

@@b33ft0n6 He talked about when bands like Killswitch Engage were just starting, and I said Opeth _were_ highly respected _around that time_ - in other words pretty much exactly when they released Blackwater Park. If people still acknowledge how good it is, it sounds more like you confirmed what I said than proved it incorrect.

[@kage6613]

wow, this is cool. not a lot of the kids know Overcast but they should. same with bands like Fall Silent...very curious what band you played in, did you record anything? it really was cool how metalcore used to be very diverse for a while, even through the 2000s, it was still just kids all trying stuff and combining things that "weren't allowed" lol. there were still countless copies of cookie cutter bands but it still felt like overall it was going somewhere, pushing boundaries and doing new things with music...doesn't feel like that any more. even the fact that there's a "metalcore revival" in the hardcore scene right now is something of a death flag for the whole thing...maybe he's right about it having reached its final form...I sure hope not. would be mad depressing if metalcore went out on watered down nü-djentcore. lol

[@bolillo5013]

Half metalcore bands are boring, half are pretty cool

[@brandonharris9160]

Metalcore is an important genre but it has been done to death. Bands could learn a thing or two from Between the Buried and Me and spice it up and add some variety

[@phaaaze9984]

No one knows how to right actual songs. Bands like BTBAM and Protest the Hero were skilled as fuck but also had hooks. And hooks doesn’t mean a big chorus with bad clean vocals like 90% of the bands think it does.

[@AmiliaCaraMia]

Yeah it's not that the production in metalcore is bad but there's a larger problem where it seems like all of it is produced by the same 4 people. So everything ends up sounding the same.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

@@AmiliaCaraMia This is the exact problem I have with most music today, especially within the core genres.

[@narwhaljenkem347]

while i agree that 90% of metalcore bands these days are a dime a dozen, there are still a handful of gems that are buried in the noise. it’s hard to hear about bands like END or dying wish or stuff like that when all you hear about is the last faux-djent-butt-rock-“mydemonswilldrownme”-metalcore bands

[@PatrickWolfChannel]

In Newcastle this week BMTH tour Ollie stopped the show literally 5 times because people were dropping like flies.

[@oyepvokadub6522]

If Invent animate were bigger band (they are getting there with a steady growth) like spiritbox or bad omens, finn would talk in very different way about them but its ok. Dude likes pop but dont even wait for the hook of a song. He just wants to wind up a some poeple. I like his content but sometimes his takes are lazy.

[@oyepvokadub6522]

Oh, and one more thing about your take on metalcore, Finn... OK, BOOMER!!!

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

They don’t have hooks at all tbh

[@Idontevenknowanymore8254]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBAthat’s wild

[@raymondhernandez2935]

Dying Wish is the best example of evolving the metalcore sound. A great mash of metalcore/hardcore/death metal.

[@ayylmao8691]

Agree

[@xBongWater]

dying wish is one of the best in the game rn

[@D0ffy]

Okay I love Dying Wish as much as the next guy but let’s not get it twisted - it’s literally how metalcore sounded in the mid 2000s with the melodeath tinge and not an evolution of the genre at all. Sick band but to say they’re pushing the genre forward is ridiculous.

[@tfwnoyandere]

saw them open for acacia strain yesterday, vouch

[@raymondhernandez2935]

@D0ffy I disagree. They have implemented a good amount hardcore sound compared to the bands in the past.

[@Vixfor_]

Yes, there are many generic modern metalcore bands for sure, but you gotta remember that there are different types and genres of metalcore right-now: 1. Metallic Hardcore (which is the origin of Metalcore with bands like Earth Crisis, Converge) 2. Melodic Metalcore (which is Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying and the last Dying Wish album) 3. Progressive Metalcore (which is more experimental, technical/ambient side of metalcore with a lot of genre-bending and styles combined together that include Djent or Thall or some genres including Deathcore and Mathcore, these are: Invent Animate, Oceans Ate Alaska, Northlane, Loathe, Reflections, Veil of Maya, After The Burial, Erra and so on... The reason why some bands sound so different is because they have different roots and combinations of different genres/subgenres, but their general genre is Progressive Metalcore) Invent Animate(Heavener album) combined: Progressive Metalcore, Shoegaze, some parts of Thall and Ambient into perfection. They're not anywhere generic. Oceans Ate Alaska(Hikari album) combined: Progressive Metalcore, Deathcore, Mathcore, Lofi and probably the best ever technical drumming by Chris Turner. As far as i know Chris also used different types of traditional Japanese musical instruments and the whole album felt so unique and so fresh because of it. Northlane with their Obsidian album which absolutely redefines the Metalcore/EDM style and sounds like the best current mix of both, especially songs like: Cypher, Obsidian, Dark Solitaire. Last Loathe album which combined A LOT of stuff including Progressive Metalcore, Shoegaze, Alt Metal, Blackgaze. Allt which is basically a Progressive Metalcore with Thall elements. And so on... There are actually many unique bands, but also there are many generic bands as well. There's no Djentcore, Djent is not a genre, there's a Progressive Metalcore or Progressive Metal, that's it. Thall is not a genre as well, Vildhjarta is basically a Progressive Metal/Math Metal/Thall(which is the element) band. 4. Progressive Metallic Hardcore (Moments Elsewhere by Johnny Booth which sounds like a progressive and redefined version of Metallic Hardcore with interesting experimentation and Mathcore elements included, also last Knocked Loose feels progressive) 5. Nu-Metalcore (which is stuff by Alpha Wolf or Diamond Construct...) 6. Modern Metalcore (which is Pop-influenced, like: Spiritbox, Bad Omens and so on) 7. Post-Metalcore (Personally i don't know as much about this term myself but it seems like it was an alternative term to Deftonescore or Shoegazecore bands, especially Loathe, Holding Absence(they were always a Post-Hardcore band though) and so on... I'm not sure where it's all going now so i will just leave this term here) 8. Metalcore/Alt Rock/Post-Hardcore. There are bands that combined Metalcore and Post-Hardcore, for example: early If I Were You, early Secrets, Woe is Me and similar bands in general. Also current Bring Me The Horizon is basically Alternative Rock/Metal with Metalcore influence. Moreover, there's no shit like Baddiecore or Thallcore or Crabcore, none of those terms sound convincing, yall dreaming mate.

[@Woostock13]

I like Post Metalcore to describe bands like Holding absence. I like them a lot, but they sound like the soft parts of Metalcore to me. I don't really hear a Hardcore influence there.

[@Vixfor_]

@@Woostock13 One of my most favorite bands, Wilt is one of the best songs i've ever heard in my life :)

[@Vixfor_]

@@Woostock13 I would say Post-Hardcore influence, but it's more of their current material with songs like: Death Nonetheless, Her Wings and so on. I mean so many people described their early stuff as "Modern Post-Hardcore" or "Atmospheric Post-Hardcore" and i was absolutely confused and maybe i'm wrong here.

[@tristenwells7762]

@@Vixfor_you really confused me lol I like the descriptive analysis! I just know when a song is metalcore or not! But oh my goodness when I hear Nu-Metal in Metalcore or deathcore I’m like a kid in a candy store

[@ghostrider_414]

The st anger snare sounds like he's banging on a trash can 😂

[@fatefatefate]

How in tf are u gonna use "millennial" as an insult when all Gen Z artists literally rip off ideas straight from millennials? 😆 Gen Z comes up with nothing original, it's all rehashed stuff Millenials did. thats not even to mention, how come Gen X was never used pejoratively? youre skipping an entire demographic cohort as an insult?

[@Eazyrun]

I've always liked the snare on St. Anger and was surprised to hear people don't like it lmaoo I had no internet back in the days, and St. Anger didn't really affect me or my friends. They were neutral towards it. And all of the sudden, like 8 years later, I hear about people who hate the snare with a passion, even the entire album lol

[@J_Swing]

Bro what the actual fuck? Watching on my Android, look to my left, Pepsi in hand... Xbox Series X staring at me under my entertainment center...

[@alphared4655]

Metalcore used to be defined as a blend of hardcore punk and thrash. Hatebreed is an obvious example. Now it's become such a convoluted genre idk wtf metalcore is supposed to be anymore. Most of the modern "metalcore" bands suck anyways so who cares. And St Anger is absolute garbage. The transitions in tempo are terrible. The snare doesn't work for the style. You can't hear the bass guitar. Load and Reload, however, are actually good albums but no one will admit it.

[@ryanross3824]

Metalcore just needs that one group of teenagers or a older dad friend group to shake things up, the in between are too busy working,

[@josephevans6293]

Check out Make Them Suffer...they slam hard yo

[@spongeybob100]

xNomadx, Balmora, A Mourning Star, Adrienne, Serration

[@anoxia999]

Type O Negative worked (Brooklyn parks and rec) while still shaking things up…even now, nobody like TON

[@Kotsoros37]

I think the metalcore take might be abit to generalized, so many awesome albums coming out the last few years, maybe grouping in deathcore and hardcore in general. Most innovation these days is just the mixing of genres. But there's definitely some stuff that is played out like the IA genre, however I find they do that style really well and I personally like them

[@kosio0808]

I love how Finn reads hot takes from other people so reddit can hate them as much as Reddit hates him and comes with the biggest hot take that iPhone is better than Android. He just got talent 😂😂😂

[@nikolailien6167]

Seriously. It's not 2007, iPhone is overpriced trash. My work pays for my cellphone and there's no world where I'd prefer an iPhone to the high end Samsungs. Even when it's literally free.

[@Hobcore]

Android is for nerds and incels, not really a hot take.

[@nikolailien6167]

@@Hobcore guess I should tell my wife that we're both incels. My 50 something mom who uses an iPhone is clearly one of the cool kids

[@kage6613]

I know lol...never change Finn 😂 my favorite is that I feel his #1 type irl usually is an Xbox stan and hates Sony/PS, but Finn is too much of a JRPG weeb for that ish 🤣

[@QQ-qz5ft]

I heard iPhones have a calculator app.

[@isaacdruin]

I think that its also worth mentioning that the bar for what's not "generic" has been significantly lifted over the last decade. There are very experimental bands like Periphery or Sleep Token who, by contrast, make everyone else sound generic when that's not the case at all. Invent Animate has a great blend of vocal variation on top of droning distorted riffage that I can't directly compare to many other bands. Compared to Periphery I might call them generic. Compared to many more popular metalcore bands they might as well be the Salvador Dali of the genre.

[@LasTortugasAzules]

I generally agree with your take on the state of metalcore, but I don't think we'll end up stuck in the current iteration of the genre. The Invent Animate stuff is still everywhere, but there are growing bands that are more akin to the metalcore of the mid 2000s. The best example is probably Counterparts. They grew a lot with their new album last year, and they sound more like Misery Signals than Bad Omen. I'm noticing more and more 2000s throwback metalcore out there. It may not get as big as bands like Bad Omens, but it's still out there and not hard to find

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

Doing throwbacks isn’t going to help move a genre forward. It just shows it has run low on ideas.

[@LasTortugasAzules]

@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 taking old ideas and building on them isn't stale. There are multiple bands combining some of the old metalcore sound and melodic hardcore sound and turning it into something that's still fresh. If they just sounded like Killswitch Engage covers that would be stale, but I don't see bands doing that

[@FuneraryDirge]

I'd actually take the generic crabcore bands over newer Metalcore acts, even if the band was awful you could laugh at the funny stage moves and get some sort of kick out of it, now everything is boring, moody and serious. The genre used to be so much fun, but bands stopped having fun and started listening to indie/shoegaze.

[@Gummibri]

If you've ever heard the live DVD paired with the album... Those rehearsal sessions make these songs listenable. I've always liked St. Anger because I listen to the rehearsal versions.

[@Isdezenaambezet]

Very true about new bad omens fans. Saw them last weekend and it has brought people who don´t know the pit rules and such. But yeah they´ll learn. How else are you supposed to get new people in.

[@With__Humor]

Why are you so pissed about modern metalcore just living and thriving thanks to the bands like "Invent, Animate". If you don't like them, then just leave them the hell alone. It's your opinion... sure, but you didn't need to show "Invent, Animate" in such a bad light, to the community that's already suffering from gatekeeping, unpopularity and other problems. Stay hard and positive)

[@Retro-2-now]

When you were talking about the “10 year” thing and mentioned it took longer for LB , I’m just trying to figure out , to who? Is that a metal elite club who determines who is “g*y” or who isn’t at the time? The only reason I ask is, LB really started to get a little traction in 1996, they played at least the Jacksonville date of Warped. Next thing you know, they were everywhere. By 1998 or 99 they were playing colosseums and arenas. I think that group who thought they were “g*y” was a very small group. Being from Jacksonville and being involved in the music scene, not as a band member, but as someone who’s best friends were in one of the biggest local bands in Jacksonville in the late 90’s/early 2000’s we had a lot of issues with Fred, but I can’t take away what that band did back then

[@nc4739]

Ha, you picked one of Invent animates more tame songs to make that comment towards, casual.

[@HTJason_S12]

Wow, you surely got him there!

[@diesel3333]

*Yeaaah Disney could give us a Metalcore reboot with a GIRL BOSS MARY SUE playing fuckin guitar e screaming!!* LOL

[@ding1r]

13:00 Wtf was that sound, i thought something was falling apart in my house lol

[@deihiroshi9686]

St’ anger was my first album of metallica. And i still love them. Never put me down even then i found out that that no one loves it

[@senditkevin]

Snare is good, it works, just mixed a bit too loud.

[@pankace3296]

You’re right that there’s always a new hated gateway (hot topic, TikTok, etc) but TikTok is definitely the worst ever. It’s the first time that most of the big new metal bands (plus Deftones) somehow got big off of alt girls making thirst traps.

[@most_displeased_customer1209]

Tik tok will be the (deserved) downfall of our civilisation lol

[@Frederick0220]

TikTok is diarrhea in social media form. A far left hate platform

[@jorockish]

I dunno man, these new bands sound nothing like Killswitch Engage and the early 00s era… The genre has evolved more so than most others imo.

[@caseyjones5145]

Killswitch is sooooo good!

[@duffmcclintock6199]

Tell me you’ve never watched a Critical Drinker video without telling me you’ve never watched a Critical Drinker video.

[@benjaminwatt2436]

Critical Drinker makes me laugh even though it gets old. especially now that you have 100 uploads a day from people trying to kick rich trash talking disney or the MCU

[@danielayaquica7120]

he has a hate boner for youtubers that do criquite analisis, specially of popular media

[@AlligatorArms]

I went hard into Metalcore when the OG’s (A7X, Atreyu, 18V, Bleeding Through) when they were on the rise. But within 5 years, all of them either moved onto other things or just moved on period. All the subsequent generations of metalcore contributed a whole lot of nothing to the scene other than making me feel old. The best thing that could’ve happened to metalcore was for it to fade as fast as 90’s swing revival music so that it could come back 20 years later and be cool again. That 20 year mark would’ve been right about now.

[@kage6613]

yeah and that revival already happened/is still happening and arguably peaked around 5 years ago when bands like .tourniquet. and a needle under the nail were active. now Dying Wish have been doing numbers and there a million melodic metalcore /melodeathcore revival bands all over the place like it's the early 00s and every band is aping Tribunal, Trustkill, and Ferret bands from that era. just check out Foreign Hands, Cauldron, A Mourning Star, or the Upon Stone record that just dropped today featuring Shadows Fall. I'm honestly not complaining though it's fun

[@kage6613]

also if you haven't heard the new 18V comeback stuff...you need to change that quickly

[@atvena]

The dark wave orange country sound

[@dancastleZRTHS]

Nik nocturnal has entered the chat

[@stinkyouija]

I'd love to see more cover tier lists. They have an album out there called "pop punk goes reggae" which I think would be fascinating to see you rank

[@phaaaze9984]

As someone who listens to a good amount of metalcore I think metalcore fans are easily my least favorite music fanbase Only thing that come close in annoyance level are people who think there hasn’t been a good song released since 1989 or some shit

[@wyattcole5452]

There hasn’t been that much good music since 2005 or so, around my birth. Maybe I’m one of those people but you can’t pretend music hasn’t actively been getting worse, with streaming bringing a pretty big change to the way people listen and even think about music. It’s to the point where it’s effected my generation’s subconscious ability to listen to music, and if you don’t know what I mean then idk how to help

[@phaaaze9984]

@@wyattcole5452there’s literally more music out there to listen to then ever before. If I named my top 100 albums ever probably over half would be post 2005. There’s literally too much to even listen to If people listen differently than before that’s their own problem

[@wyattcole5452]

@@phaaaze9984 maybe you haven’t listen to enough old stuff 😂 I I’ve listen to over 100 albums and my favorites are 90s, 70s or early 2000s. Music has changed, in almost every way. So even being 18 I much prefer older music, even the production is better to my listening taste but that ofc doesn’t make music made now bad, I like a lot of new stuff. There’s only one band I’m looking forward to this year, though, and that’s a new Flagman album. I look for unique music, so I kinda have to look mostly in the 970s to 90s…

[@CodyCockyote7046]

​@@wyattcole5452 But young people like us (im 22) listening to the same bands our uncles and old friends listened to in the 80s and 90s will just be a rehash even if the music is OG. Like most people who say music died after the 90s listen to King Crimson Radiohead and some other classic group thats been done to death.

[@wyattcole5452]

@@CodyCockyote7046 but there are plenty of bands and genres, including subgenres, that haven’t been milked as much as others, like the subgenre were talking about, which has been around considerably longer than Nü metal stayed relevant. Genre mixes, experimentation, and Just plain difference in inspiration (which is closer to stealing for many bands). My point is instead of trying to sound like the band, especially if the band has tons of others who sound like it, try to mix that band’s sound in with other bands you like or your band likes. It’s not always easy or profitable so i understand bands who don’t, but that’s how most bands came up with their own sound. Korn’s first album is a mix of grunge, especially Alice In Chains, funk metal, especially Mr Bungle, and heavier metal in the late 80s, which influenced their down-tuned guitar. Mr Bungle itself is one of the most influential and barely heard of bands/album from the 90s, and yet there’s not many bands that sound like them at all. The various fans who were inspired by them went on to sound nothing like them, and bands who claim to just have similar inspiration as them come out sounding not quite similar but definitely close. The bands I can think of who remind me of Bungle’s first album are Nuclear Rabbit, Dureforsog (all three developing their sound separately supposedly), Flagman who was inspired heavily but comes across more as a Primus and metalcore inspired band in ways, and then the band that purposefully sounds like them still mixes it up considerably in their only album, and that’d be the Alter Boys, with their 2006 album. Same singer as the Mushroomhead singer in the 90s. So there’s one inspiration that not only can lead you to a different direction, but can lead you into many

[@nimhard]

For real: wtf is metalcore nowadays? Any current bands that have screaming vocals and some form of downtuning are called metalcore but they do not sound the same at all. The current bands people call metalcore are way more of a djent pop thing than what was called Metalcore 18 years ago. Metalcore used to have this Gothemburg sound influence mixed with hardcore. Currently It's probably the dumbest ever label invented to categorize a form of metal. Everything from KsE to Spiritbox to even BMTH has been called metalcore at one point. If it fits everything, it means nothing.

[@gasmaskestore8018]

What about the St Anger snare on a HYPERPOP kinda song?

[@IRLtrolls]

I’m a metalcore Stan but I fucking hate Invent Animate. It’s so unbelievably bad and i don’t understand why r/metalcore praises them so much.

[@richardsager842]

2000s metalcore is what I will always expect metalcore to sound like.

[@TJ_Shredder]

Melodic metalcore 🔛🔝

[@maverick4255]

Maybe cause melodic metalcore doesn’t really have any core in it. Triviums Shogun, AILD Shadows, KSE As Daylight Dies. This issue is that the vocal style is closer to hardcore in comparison to death metal or any extreme metal. But in a vacuum it’s not hardcore, and is nothing like hardcore.

[@spongeybob100]

A Mourning Star, xNomadx, Balmora, Serration

[@Ghoulboy000]

Use IA to talk shit about metalcore it's just crazy. These are the worst takes i heard this week about anything

[@ryanbollinger1759]

I honestly think most of the best and most unique bands releasing music today are in the Metalcore genre.

[@wyattcole5452]

Lmao any names? I hope I’m getting metalcore mixed up with hardcore but I bet they’re pretty close

[@gustavohp3439]

​@@wyattcole5452its because a lot of modern bands today have a bit of metalcore in it, and its very confusing

[@wyattcole5452]

@@gustavohp3439 that’s true, and I get that people like the heaviness, I do too, but there’s so little creativity in vocals and most of the time in my experience the music itself. It’s fairly similar to me to bands like Linkin Park, who I mostly can’t stand bc of vocals and just something about the music, I can’t exactly place it beyond possibly tone

[@Vixfor_]

​@@wyattcole5452 For me from modern bands: Invent Animate, Johnny Booth, Northlane, Oceans Ate Alaska, Veil of Maya, Reflections, Volumes, Loathe, The Devil Wears Prada, even the last Thornhill album lol... All of these bands are unique and include unique elements. Yes, i think that there are a lot of generic bands as well, but there are some really interesting experiments. I'm so excited about Fromjoy, i think this band needs a better production and mix overall because they have some REALLY good ideas.

[@wyattcole5452]

@@Vixfor_ interesting, I’d look into them but it’s just not my thing, even though the bands that got me into metal were metalcore or adjacent for the most part. I’m more of a Flagman, Dureforsog, System of a Down and, obviously, Mike Patton guy

[@Eirik36]

The clip of invent animate you played sounded like dayshell. This is also coming from someone who’s never listed to invent animate lol

[@JuanHernandez-mu6og]

Aint no way yall actually listening to this boomers takes lol

[@DustyDigits]

I always enjoyed the St. Anger snare, and I'm not that big of a Metallica fan. That snare just goes so hard!

[@DaryllRambo]

You wanna talk snare? One word...... SNAPCASE

[@christopherkimber7679]

Dude! Progression through unlearning! I remember the first time I heard Caboose. I freaking fell in love with them when I heard the opening drum fill. One of the best 90’s hardcore bands.

[@DaryllRambo]

That entire album blew me away. Priceless and Zombie prescription are my go to@@christopherkimber7679

[@gasmaskestore8018]

Top 5 snares in the history of snares IMO

[@spongeybob100]

Yo if you like Snapcase listen to Excide… their lp is amazing

[@jeffreysamazinglyfantastic165]

Haven't thought about Snapcase in forever... LoLs

[@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385]

I agree and disagree. I'm mostly into Technical Death Metal, Progressive Metal and Black Metal. I love Metalcore too. I'm mostly into bands like, Periphery, Ice Nine Kills, Currents, Parkway Drive, The Human Abstract, I See Stars, Veil of maya (Old&New), Asking Alexandria, Invent Animate, Escape The Fate, Attack Attack! And many more.. if anything i feel like this video title belongs on Deathcore rather than Metalcore. I believe that majority of deathcore sounds boringly boring and generic.. there are only like 10 deathcore bands that I truly like, some are og bands

[@1know4gho5t]

Invent Animate doesn’t belong on this, actually an insanely cool band. Not a lot of bands create an atmosphere like them. A front man replacement is tough for most bands but they’re even better now. Pretty impressive.

[@kage6613]

proving his point

[@Gatesofgehennax]

I couldn't finish a single Invent Animate song, sh*t's so boring and generic, just awful. I'd rather listen to Sanction, Boundaries, or Chamber for the 100th time

[@dankewurst]

"Metalcore is played out" with Heavener as the argument is strange. That particular song is more "fresh" than any song from latest Spiritbox EP (except Ultraviolet maybe), who made slightly watered down Eternal Blue. Heavener at least goes in Loathe direction which is still kinda new and niche and have enough space for experiments. Any song from IA's latest album would be more suitable argument

[@ben.bogdan]

The future of metalcore is the bands getting back to the roots like Balmora

[@spongeybob100]

YES AND A MOURNING STAR, XNOMADX, SERRATION, ADRIENNE

[@EddieSparxx]

I am of the opinion that metal mixes from the early 90s (1988 - 1994) were the absolute perfect middle ground with crispness and definition but also space and dynamics. Many of those albums still hold up now and take me to another world while many modern metal mixes lack the ambience that makes me feel that way. Like I’m hyper aware that I am listening to a digital studio recording. There’s loads of great bands out now, but the more mainstream ‘core’ bands sound kinda samey to my ears. But, that’s just my ears I guess, I like what I like.

[@robertholston4708]

Eddie Sparxxx what's up?

[@EddieSparxx]

@@robertholston4708 nothin much, dude! Been focusing on my TikTok lately…

[@StephenIC]

9:40 i am seeing BMTH and Bad Omens on Tuesday, and i have heard lots of horror stories about the crowds on this tour. Also, almost every night the shows have been stopped for injuries. Maybe another symptom of "TikTok" fans who dont know how it works? I'll see in a few days!

[@ryandicksen8377]

In St. Anger's defense, that was the album that saved Metallica. I always liked the snare too. PING PING PING PING PING PING PING

[@donniedixon7412]

Some good metalcore right now is the new Unprocessed album. It's basically Polyphiacore, but it's awesome. Definitely an interesting and refreshing take on metalcore.

[@FyrFytr998]

Korn taking the bag from Adidas is the biggest sellout of all time. Great for business. Bad for integrity. Imagine being told “no thank you” at the height of your popularity, only to be brought on board a ship that is full of leaks now that Captain Kanye has run it aground. Also a slap in the face to Puma who accepted them with open arms. I guess Adolph gets one more “W” over his brother Rudolph one last time, lol

[@williamdixon-gk2sk]

Finn, your 'poster child for 2nd place' analogy IS one of my lifelong friends. Adidas, B.K., everything it cracks me up everytime.

[@paalkyrkjeboe1191]

What a hilarious episode “flaming hot takes” and your comments on metalcore, so so funny. Also good point on pop music on being the evolving genre

[@MikeSingSing]

Disagree on the "10 years" comment. I guess it's part nostalgia and part "people that hated it in 2002, simply don't give a shit anymore about it". I still dislike Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit or Creed, but I'm just not that vocal about it. Enjoy your shit, I'll enjoy mine.

[@mockep]

Critical Drinker catching strays is so out of pocket 😂

[@elaceyb]

The St Anger snare sounds like they did it as a joke