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[@brandonmccaskey3971]

I think Titan should do a show like Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares but with shops lol...

[@Tkb135]

This

[@Tnj8228]

He should come to my works shop it's a joke lol

[@CVBigTex]

Brandon McCaskey outstanding idea

[@tollcollector164]

@@Tnj8228 get a job else where if it's a joke. If you stay, the joke's on you.

[@Jack.of.all.learning]

Yes! School shops as well!

[@MrPlusses]

Sometimes as an employee you have to fire your employer. If they are not willing to listen and don't give 110% to make the business thrive, let them go. Walk out the door, don't look back. Be polite, don't burn your bridges but leave. In my case new owners came in, said run the machines harder, longer. They said quality might suffer but productivity will make up for it. They still think the machines were the money makers. When, after years of proven/documented work history and glowing testimonials from the past owners, they refused my annual increase. Hell, they even cancelled the Christmas party because where they came from they didn't celebrate Christmas. I offered to take an early retirement buy-out and work for them on a contract basis. They accepted. I got my buy-out. I've never returned their calls to negotiate a contract. I left two weeks before Christmas 2 years ago. I started a small furniture refinishing business in my shop at home. Life is good.

[@dukenukem1877]

This. Fire low quality employers. Document your reason(s): Poor employer performance over an extended period of time. Don't worry about burning any bridges. Don't even give notice unless it benefits you specifically. Why not? Because if they EVER gain a lick of sense, that will be no barrier to your return. I have packed up and left poor employers without saying a word, only to have them call me later to offer me a job when they gained some wisdom. Sometimes it's time to stop running away and start pushing back. Give these idiots their hard knocks and they'll be better for it in the long run. Just remember: you work WITH them, not under them. It's a partnership or nothing at all.

[@brettbernhardt7608]

Man this video makes me both proud and feel very unappreciated. I'm an beginner programmer but I'm the only programmer at my work and take pride in everything I do but since I'm young I get looked down on and taken advantage of even know I'm making everything I can as efficient and simple as I can for everyone. Didn't expect this from this video but man it just makes me want to send it to my boss.

[@garethgrandfather]

im only 2 min into the vid and this is my whole day in work

[@scotterwin3162]

I have seen it so many times, people with that very same mindset of, we've been doing it that way for years so why should we change? I actually worked at a place that went out of business because of that attitude. They made 3 parts for the oilfield industry, and had a couple of others that they modified. When times got slow, the programmer/president of the company had no clue how to do anything else, much less any knowledge on how to adapt. He wouldn't listen to me, and tooling was my life, nor would he listen to the reps I brought over to attempt to sway him into more modern machining techniques, so the company couldn't adapt and overcome and just folded. He was always so worried that someone would " show him up" that he destroyed a company of over forty years just to save face. The saddest part is that he got to walk away with the title of president for his resume, so he continues to be rewarded....

[@robertfuentes3968]

Titan you are so right! God bless you !

[@fuxluck1]

I used to get frustrated about this, but now I work for a HUGE company in Denver and management is so convoluted that it is imposible to change so I just collect my check and laugh. Pays the same. I really don't care anymore if it is the best method of machining. As long as my check doesn't bounce.

[@ianlockwood7842]

Hi Titan, having the right people and having positive relationships between everyone in a business is definitely the way to go. If you can find the right person you can teach them the skills, if someone even with the right skills is the wrong person for your business they can be very destructive. Read a book called Fish about Toxic workplaces. Thanks for continued great content. It would be great to see something about broaching, cutting internal keyways etc. I am looking at something that requires an internal 90 degree V slot cutting. Thanks again.

[@jirizhanel795]

You just spoke to me. I worked for my company for 13 years. I worked my way from operator, through set up tech, now to designing fixture, improving process. I got zero training. Everything i learn, i learned myself. I made company lot of money, and my company cannot even guarantee me 40 hours a week. Maybe its time for me to move on.

[@curt149k]

It is.

[@advil000]

Move now, while you are young enough to make the move. Based purely on what you just said, if you walked into an interview at a different company for a much higher paying job, you would be able to speak to them with knowledge of operating, setup AND design. If you have the skills accumulated you claim, you will be hired for a job with real hours.

[@TheAefril]

God Bless to you brother. Hang in there, keep your eyes on the long term future. Stay there for after-hours work. get to the factory earlier than everyone else. Do more, Learn more, Stay up to date. Take note of all your achievements, have the list ready at your next review. If they don't listen to you, comply and negotiate with you for your real - worth, then move - on!

[@rufusleers]

Do it!

[@Ryan_1997]

Apply with titan. I know the feelin

[@iexcedo6918]

Took machining and programming in highschool, afterwards I worked at my local machine shop an worked from operator to programmer. There was a time where I was doing so much more then the people around me. So what I did was once they denied me of a raise. I took all of the old programs and set ups before me reinstall them into all the machines. Did a time study for each one, as well as tooling cost to performance. Then went back to the way I did things. Created a massive spread sheet comparing then to now in regards to cost, production and even training time. I got my raise but on the same day put in my two weeks. If company can't identify efficient employees, or game changers. Move on. Know your skill set, and hone in your uniqueness that you bring to machining and probably the most important factor when it comes to this trade. Surround yourself with knowledgeable and like-minded people. Continuous improvement takes continuous dedication

[@franciscoibarra8026]

Simple words you stole programs from the company #Illegal!!!!

[@heroicprecision]

@@franciscoibarra8026 go re-read his comment. He was making improvements, and then reverted back to the old programs, to showcase how much better they were.

[@meandthemrs7403]

@@franciscoibarra8026 He didn't steal anything. Re-read what he wrote.

[@meandthemrs7403]

Very good decision. They should have given you the raise AND a bonus to compensate for their ignorance and as an apology. When companies make you give them an ultimatum, and give you a raise to keep you. Then they have just admitted that they have been taking advantage of you and keeping YOUR money.

[@varmint243davev7]

When you are "that guy" make your own dreams come true, not someone else's. The best move I ever made was leaving the first small shop I worked at. My only regret was not leaving sooner. Don't ever be afraid to leave a shop and make things better for yourself. You may have to jump a couple times, but you will find the place where you fit and belong.

[@qklmike]

I agree with what your saying. Seems like where I have been the company's do not want you thinking and being efficient, they want you to listen to them and don't do anything to bring the company to a higher level. They wanna keep their thumb on you. I'm not a programmer, I'm a rig welder. If we're on a job, the welder pretty much determines the speed of the job. Ya get yelled at for going to fast or slow or not fast enough even with a 0% repair rate. I got tired of it and started a business.

[@EyebrowsMahoney]

On point. This has been my experience as well. My profession is Information Technology, I've worked from the very bottom at technical support to System Administration and the overall tone in most companies is the same. You clock in, do your job exactly how THEY want you to do your job. No more, or no less. In System Administration, downtime is huge. You do everything you can to prevent it. But the problem is, they hardly ever want to invest in upgrading their aging infrastructure and improve their system stability. The likeness amongs all our fields is astounding. We set the pace for the day to day work environment, if systems are slow, unavailable, or unreliable, we slow down the production in the company as well as our customers. The worst part is we get boned on both ends as well as you do. With 100% uptime they don't want to pay you more because "Why do we even need you?" when their antiquated hardware has a fault or an aging system clogs up or crashes, they don't want to pay you more because "Why do we even have you?" No matter how well you maintain the systems, no matter how quickly you resolve an issue, the fact that any issue arises or does not arise results in the same attitude to the employee... "Why should we pay you more if we don't have you fixing things/the system is continually failing and you have to scramble to fix it?" - They don't see the amount of time you spend at work trying to make sure the systems don't fail. The work you spend implementing mitigations for possible failures. The extra time we spend in our free time learning how to streamline resolution processes and coding/automating tasks to reduce and avoid downtime... It's usually not the employee in most cases. It's usually the company's attitude. (And let me be clear to Titan - obviously you give a crap about your employees and company. It's just most companies don't give a crap like you do. The message they see in this video is fire their experienced programmer, and hire a replacement at 1/2 the cost and still ask them to do the very things you outlined in this video.)

[@Juiceontheloose76]

That sounds more like a union problem than a job problem

[@qklmike]

@@Juiceontheloose76 I'm not union...

[@consciouscool]

The motivation pushed you to go where you needed to be, self employed. Good job.

[@qklmike]

@@consciouscool exactly and I am in control of quality rather than having someone tell me "it's good enough"

[@Harys]

I am that type of programer you are talking about, I live for this job, I literally count every second I can save on our repeated jobs and I constantly trying to find new aproaches to problems so our machines could run as effectively as possible. Luckily my boss is also my friend, who understands all of this and has a same mindset, and I make easily 3 times the average salary in my country :)

[@TheAefril]

God Bless to you, my friend. You are the type of employee that is the 'LINCHPIN' that holds the whole operation together. Cheers from Syndey/Australia.

[@LubomirPotocki]

What country is this?

[@danarrington2224]

After 25 years in manufacturing here's my advice. If you are in a position to fix problems but you don't because it gets you in trouble, you need to quit that job today. You should always be the one who fixes problems without being asked to do so. That is what leaders do. Don't waste another day in a company that wants to hold you back. 100% of companies that operate in that manner fail. They fail because they have no desire to innovate. You may find that eventually you will need to own your own business because you need the ability to dictate how a company is run. When you get to that position don't forget where you came from. Understand that you are not the only one who feels this way. Look for highly motivated people and give them the nurturing environment that you sought out. The only way to win in American manufacturing is to outsmart the rest of the world. Highly intelligent, highly motivated people will gravitate to your company and when they do make sure that you give them the tools and the freedom to make your company successful. And always remember that you could not get there without them.

[@slitaitana6212]

This is the way.

[@sgtstedanko7186]

There's too much selfish behavior in today's society and that's why modern American work culture sucks. I've worked in places where the company could grow in leaps and bounds but the owners pride gets in the way.

[@davelewis2174]

So true in 35 years of cnc machining there is nothing worse than a bad Manufacturing Engineer / Programmer , The great ones made work less stressful and more productive and would listen to the machinists issues and fix them

[@jesseblanchard9609]

Oh there's plenty worse...like bosses that don't want to pay people what they are worth it pay for training or willing to fire crappy employees, or buy tooling and fixtures.

[@jesseblanchard9609]

@TakeDeadAim you are correct...different position

[@chrisrokz9005]

@@jesseblanchard9609 Correct, Management is always the boat anchor when it comes to Manufacturing. With Engineering / Programming it is an experience issue and usually can be fixed with communication and training.

[@rallen7660]

My dad just retired after over 50 years as a CNC programmer. He always told me that the most satisfying tasks he ever had was teaching other programmers and operators new techniques and seeing their eyes light up. He gave away knowledge like that his entire career. During a 15 minutes interview, he made some observations that made that company over a million dollars in increased revenue that year. Yes, they hired him. :)

[@TheAefril]

Yes, a truly inspirational story. That should encourage everyone to do that little bit more. Yes- I understand some bosses don't recognise or reward effort. But give them a fair chance to come around. And if there is still nothing, then move on! Hold your head up with pride, because you know where those improvements or work efficiency came from. Walk across the street to their competitor or someone who will reward your talent.

[@dominic6634]

What a cool guy! My first boss was like that. Second wasn't he kept info secret.

[@ISILENTNINJAI]

My previous boss had no vision. I offered suggestions for improving programs. Making them faster and more efficient. I could program but never gave me a shot at it. I left that shop and now im at a shop that said im exactly the type of person they want in their shop. I practice cad/cam on my own time. When i showed them my programs and projects they were amazed.

[@iPACKgoldDOTS]

We have a two op part in my shop that was programmed using conversational. We've made thousands of parts using the same method. A couple weeks ago myself and another programmer decided to use camworks and reprogram the operations and took 25 minutes out of two ops that used to be 1 hour 15 min.

[@jesseblanchard9609]

Did you get a bonus? A raise? Praise from the bossman?

[@theworkshopmechanicchannel3296]

The business owner was the problem at my previous place of employment. For years I kept recommending changes to make the place more efficient and for years I was ignored till one day I decided to put those positive changes towards owning my own shop. If you want to succeed in anything you have to think outside the box and move with the times. If you work for a boss that still thinks it’s 1990 you better run for the hills

[@Trancelebration]

So true. It is still 80's time in many shops.

[@metallicadead]

I feel you man. I started an apprenticeship last september, i'm a 26 year old guy with a few professionnal experiences under my belt (not bragging or anything, just to say that ain't absolutely green to work). The shop i currently work in uses Fagor lathes and num mills. ALL the machines are rusty, old and simply disgusting due to a severe lack of maintenance and care. Every single security has been bypassed on all the machines, so the doors are basically acting as glorified umbrellas. The machine i operate on is 30 years old, and has many defects due to age and wear (not my word, i noticed it at first but the guy who operated the same machine for the last 6 years confirmed it all) I keep scraping pieces due to both inexperience and the machine sometimes acting like an ass, even when my program and positionning are down to a T. I told my boss about the problems i encountered (in a civil and professionnal way of course, i'm not a child and i understand that fixing a machine costs a ton of money) to try and find solutions. His response? " This company has run for years like that. If you don't like it here the door's always open". Talk about thinking outside the box. Coincidentally they are also losing money and contracts at an alarming rate, mh, i wonder what could be the cause of it?

[@HITTAGAME]

Right try the midwest in my old job it was so dirty and greaser i found stuff that hasnt been cleaned since 2005

[@Aendi12]

It's just too bad when you are the one that tries to rise the company by running jobs more efficient and your boss keeps you down, but at the same time wants more productivity..

[@ISILENTNINJAI]

I feel this. I just left a shop because of that. My issue was with a coworker that had been there at the company for 10 years. I had a lot of ideas to make the process of machining/deburring parts easier for the machinist. I could write programs and make them nore efficient. This guy did not like me and always gave me busy work to keep me down. What was worst is that he was related to the shop owner so i had no one to go to about this problem. Needles to say the only inspector in the shop also quit. i start my new job monday. I dont see that place surviving 10 more years

[@ISILENTNINJAI]

@@John-ik2eg sometimes your boss is youre worst nightmare. Ive had bosses purposely keep me down and reject my ideas. 6 months later they would propose my ideas to the owner as their own. Bosses are not stupid some of them are incompetent and only hire people who are less knowledgeble than they are.

[@TheAefril]

Keep a diary of the ideas you have proposed to your boss, 6months down the track ask for a pay-rise. If he does listen to you, how you saved the company money, your ideas fixed the organisation, then you take your new self worth with pride across the street to the competition. And you compete against his sorry ass.

[@ISILENTNINJAI]

@@TheAefril im already there. I start at an R&D shop tomorrow morning. Shop i just left was a production shop with 30% scrap rate. I just see this company shutting down soon. I give it 5 years.

[@dukenukem1877]

@@John-ik2eg Sure. As soon as I have a mechanism to force him to be a rational, mature adult so he doesn't fire me when he gets his period.

[@rankmonkey84]

Titan you are right. My current and last programmer/ manager positions I made around 50 an HR with profit sharing bonuses. The shop I work for now just gave me another 5k bonus today and told me they were happy to give it to me. I work and study constantly about new and better ways to run all of our CNC machines especially our 5 axis machines. Great post!

[@TheAefril]

rankmonkey84- I love your personal story. That is the sort of thing which inspires me to try harder. God Bless from Syndey Australia.

[@TWISTEDSTRINGS69]

YOU DICK !! YOU JUST GOT ME FIRED !!!!. Just kidding but I bet someone out there is going to get fired over this video... You`r doing great work keep it up..

[@thenetwerx]

LOL

[@xdygmnyrdf]

If firing someone increases productivity of your business, then just do it. It's gonna be better for everyone in the long run, including the fired person

[@pancakeempire7763]

Titan set a fire under my ass with this. i went out after watching and knocked 23 hours off a job we are currently running

[@285625417]

agree with you but most of time in me expirience... no one want to pay even if you made the company efficient more that 50%... no one care...

[@dabooge]

Yup true, that's why I started my own shop 25 yrs ago.

[@jonnyenough1531]

That's true, I've had leads sandbag me for speeding up programs just by upping surface feet for the inserts we use. Running the correct sfm

[@MA-jx6in]

This field is garbage...worked in so many good places and also dumps as machine shops go. They are all the same.. it's a challenge enough to make parts for the company and put up with egos or power trips from lousy managers or back stabbing workers who want u gone because they fear they going to get let go or some kind of complex. And all I'm there for is to make a living and go home..instead have to entangle with some of the most low lives anyone could come across...I don't think it's just me speaking about this scenario... I've read a many online where people dealt with same kind of thing either about personality issues or company owners being cheap bastards..greed is King , mentality of not taking care of the people who keep your company up afloat or running. One has to wonder why we're so short of machinist or manufacturing people I have a tendency to think that perhaps you know manufacturing and machinist haven't been treated well that we have a shortage because people just don't have the stomach to go and become these occupations. I for one tell anybody don't decide to become a machinist don't don't do it because you get more respect being a plumber electrician you know Union welder and you make a lot more money have a lot more benefits and you have retirement machinist don't have any of that we're not organized with your should be organized but we're not. It might be fun to play with all this high-tech you know have the you'll have that feeling that all I did a job well done you know I got this part done it's you know it's a personal goal or a Personal Achievement but you know at the end of the day it's just making a living anyway you know. Frankly I think a lot of people who desire to you know Make a Better Living should stay away from being a machinist you know with all the stress and expectations and you know the greedy owners or managers or even the drama in the shop I mean who who needs all that really who needs all that none of my kids are going to be a machinist, one of them's a mechanical engineer but that's that's all good but hell no never be out in the shop.

[@dfpolitowski2]

For the most part true. But the work place has a lot to do with it. Some businesses are great places with decent wages, and have a good camaraderie between workers. I've worked at layed back places were people do not abuse you and as long as you did your work people let you alone. You can even be your own boss a little and take charge of your aria making things run better. Then again I worked at German outfits and the like who's spirit and general attitude seems to be that of Nazi Germany . No one smiling, Everyone standing, No one talking. No one sitting. Issuing out warnings if you stepped out of line in some way. I loathe this type of work culture and will try to avoid employment is such a place if I can. But most places are somewhere in between.

[@wethenorth3695]

Each machinist programs for themselves where I work

[@wethenorth3695]

@@mannycalavera121 I dont find that at all, one guy takes care of his/her certain job start to finish

[@sideshow1911]

@@mannycalavera121 in prototype shops this is actually the most efficient way to get things done sometimes. When you're only doing 1's and 2's having one programmer trying to write 25-30 programs a week is inefficient

[@wethenorth3695]

@@mannycalavera121 your right about that I get you but I'm an automotive shop and a lot of times 2d programming is rather quick so there isn't much down time

[@ISILENTNINJAI]

@@mannycalavera121 macro programming my friend. I do it at the control. Once a solid macro program is written, one can make literally any part. All that is needed is to change some variables. Also most of the time i write a program i do it while running another job. Some cnc machines allow for background editing. I hear what you are sayinv about being inefficient in some shops that do complex parts, but in a job shop tgat is mainly 3 axis milling and 2 axis lathe i find it quicker to do it in G code as opposed to cad/cam.

[@marcst-aubin3809]

@@mannycalavera121 I also work in a place where each machinist program for themselves, and when a part is running, we just program the next one. There is barely any downtime.

[@zacharybickham6423]

I'm new to machining I got super lucky and got hired as a helper but they're fully training me to be a machinist. CNC and conventional mills and lathes. I'm a welder also. Pretty sweet deal.

[@alexandersoricelli3891]

I'm literally in the same position. I also feel truly luck to be getting training in CNC with just my welding certificate. Good luck bro🖒

[@paultoti8517]

I've worked in 14 machine/fabrication shops... Half no longer exist. Do you want to know when you are right and the owner is wrong???? Leave.... Six months or a year later... The company is out of business.

[@dukenukem1877]

Bingo 😉

[@CyberlightFG]

I just got a job offer cancelled because of that attitude. Too much change is not what the boss wants, even if it saves a ton of time with almost no investment.

[@CyberlightFG]

@@John-ik2eg A step from analog to digital. It's necessary to survive. Paper is outdated and obsolete.

[@chris-tg6ki]

Sometimes its not is this the right candidate for the job but is this the right job for the candidate! Meaning you would end up board after 2weeks and prob leave before 2months up. Some places just want loaders with out a brain.

[@lucst-germain52]

Good Luck finding that person buddy! The company I work for offers up to 92000$ a year for good machinists and can't find any. The trade schools are enpty. What we need to do is get Kids interested at a young age

[@Malledeus86]

Thanks Titan, years ago when I was just starting out in aerospace l’ll never forget the arguments I had with my boss. We would have all these jobs where the cycle time was 3min and to change the parts out was about 3 min on this 5 axis water jet I used to run. My boss couldn’t understand when I told him no matter what I do I can only run 50% efficient with that setup. He looked at me like how dare you challenge what we’ve been doing for 10 years. I took the time to set up 6 fixtures and link 6 programs together in a batch. Now I’m running almost a half hour straight giving me actual time I can walk away gather fixtures and drawings for the next jobs. An yea it takes a little more time to change out 6 parts, but I only have to pick up the hose 1 time, open the door 1 time, Jump up onto the machine 1 time. I was trying to save them money and they would’ve rather argued with me because I challenged the process.

[@nicocastillo500]

What if the company doesn't want to spend money for better tooling and equipment. 🤔🤔🤔

[@jesseblanchard9609]

Or training for programmers, or others, or fire people that can't get out of the way? Yeah people suck, and people in charge can suck too

[@renerodriguez2940]

That's half the prob the pay is the main prob ... in CA since the minimum wage is 12 they tryin pay that like wtf... for an ide degree they tryin pay 12a why go get degrees and get paid that crap...

[@jesseblanchard9609]

@@renerodriguez2940 we have the same issue in NC, man. People want $15 an hour work but only want to pay $10/hr for it. And if you have a BS or any kind of certs they want you to have that's just the cost of getting the job, they ain't gonna pay extra for it. It's crap and will have to change but in the mean time these companies seem pretty content to sit where they are. There are hardly any companies I have seen that are interested in being number one...they are fine with being number 12 as long as the CEO is making his boat payment

[@renerodriguez2940]

@@jesseblanchard9609 I wanna b the best the future and take all the work.... have a small team so theres fair pay AnD nothing but profits... nut even that's hard too cant trust anyone w ur designs And work plus they can copy ur parts which is a bitch

[@iamthepeterman54]

It really is a lifestyle! I liked that comment. I totally come home and watch KZbin videos with my 6 year old. Lol!

[@fryer05maverick31]

But what gets me, when a guy programs a 1000-500pc job as if he was doing 10pcs. Doesn't change a thing. Doesn't try to shave a time off the parts at all. There's a big difference if you end the job before lunch or end the job on a Friday afternoon. Instead of coming Monday morning to run a few.

[@xdygmnyrdf]

A lot of people gonna get fired after this video haha

[@Deneteus]

I have seen where helping your team rise goes against your best interest and helps everyone else make money but yourself. I have also seen where a CEO that made millions off single peoples fixes and requests to make everything more efficient tell employees that while they have been helping everyone they aren't willing to pay them to be trainers, to increase sales, or to help clients because they had a vested interest in allowing certain specific employees to ride the clock and literally filibuster any advances in quality so then those people that want to see the company advance become the enemy. Then if that person leaves and they try to get a job somewhere else no one believes anything that they did was that important. It's not very hard to make enemies by having an excellent work ethic and customer centric service skills. When you know about marketing, sales, training, customer service, management, development, troubleshooting you then anywhere you go people will fear your skills and prevent you from even getting jobs because they don't want to have to work any harder. So be careful trying to bring people up with you because after they get there there is no guarantee that they will back you once you become a target for that glass ceiling. When management uses that bell curve against you it doesn't matter how efficient you are or how many machines you can run.

[@OldtimeIronman]

Deneteus Spent most of my life working under guys like that -- guys who didn't give a single fuck, but they collected the money that I was making for the company. Brown nosers. I walked away finally. I didn't put myself thru 30 yrs and 3 trade schools in order to be held down and live on 15 an hour.

[@gladiatorboxer8140]

Im a mechanical engineer technologist and a Machinist and I run 3 cnc machines and alot of the guys say slow down dont work hard dont make things nice and easy we need overtime so dont work hard I get it man people dont want to work nothing wrong with taking pride in what you do but people just get mad when you try to raise the bar.

[@OldtimeIronman]

@@gladiatorboxer8140 In my case I wasn't even raising the bar. I was coming in and doing my job instead of sitting on my ass and brown nosing.

[@DaRoach5882]

It's cases like the ones you just described where new competition rises from your old employees.

[@sosaltysereezy]

*what if the programmer is good but the machinist is lousy?*

[@jirizhanel795]

I improve a process and run it myself. If its doable, operator should comply or is demoted to lower paying position.

[@TheAefril]

Then the programmer has to learn to multi-task. He has to stay back later, start earlier get the work out of the door. If you are not recognised for your efforts, then it is time to move on!

[@CincyPlasmaTech]

I wouldn't fire anyone today just because I saw this video and the reasons outlined in the video justifying said firing. I believe in second chances. If the company has a new vision about how they want to run then invite those working there into the new vision. Set up the pilot for the change before changing the entire shop. One lead programmer? One of anything means little room for negotiation of anything unless a replacement is easily found. Managers should know as much as the lead programmer, and communicate the expectation of part file quality, such as how efficient do you want to go? I guess I don't understand. I'm the CNC programmer and operator with the most experience. There is no lead programmer. I check other programmer's part files for errors that would crash the machine first, then look for inefficiencies to improve run time or surface quality. We are not running a shop. You guys are the experts!! If you have one lead CNC programmer, and you can't bring them along to the new company vision, then you should have a second CNC programmer to take lead.

[@josemartinez-tx7xd]

At 22 years young I may not be the most experienced machinist around but I definitely know my way around CNC machines. And I completely agree with you on this, one of the programmers at my job has been programming 46 years and is dead set on his ways even when there are clear ways to make improvements he forbids it. Good video.

[@sirgergorymmmc2231]

I disagree here.. As a programmer, I am bound by my superiors,(supervisor, foreman,owner) and their decisions. When they say no tooling, no fixturing, figure out how to do it with what we got.. It gets frustrating.. They want the machines to run fast, but refuse to get the things I need to run them fast..

[@Zkkr429]

I’ve bought my own tooling in the past. Knocked 50% off a cycle time, the boss ‘rewarded’ me by saying he’d pay me back for the tool! I agree with everything this guy says, but I’ve seldom been rewarded for working at a higher level than my peers.

[@barrysetzer]

This video should be required training for any machine shop owner/manager/supervisor/director

[@PerezAutomated]

What if you make a video that is in a similar fashion but it's about a shift (LEAD) who makes work difficult for everyone else. Instead of working together and listening to the machinist and there daily problems. He wants to do all setups, tool fixturing, an old school way instead of true quick change. A video about a (LEAD) who hinders the shop all around.

[@chaskenaruto9326]

So true, but sometimes no matter how good your skill level is or what you do for the company if upper management doesn't support you and give you what you are deserved then there's nothing you can do. Especially if u live in a city where there is not alot of jobs. You can't just quit. Wish everyone had your mindset Titan

[@TheAefril]

God Bless to you brother. Hang in there, keep your eyes on the long term future. Stay there for after-hours work. get to the factory earlier than everyone else. Do more, Learn more, Stay up to date. Take note of all your achievements, have the list ready at your next review. If they don't listen to you, comply and negotiate with you for your real - worth, then move - on!

[@willyouwright]

A pivotal role should have a stable person. You cant make a corner stone any better by proping it up.. or paying its bills or stabalizing its emotional issues.. If your building is comprimised you best start again In a seperate space and use what you can from the old structure..

[@frostbitevinnie]

Nothing worse than a bad/lazy programmer! A good programmer is usually a good machinist IMO!

[@johntunnard7328]

Without a doubt, the best video you’ve ever made. Truly brought a tear to my eye.

[@junkdubious]

I'm not a big fan of taking a bore axis from one machine and put features concentric onto it from another. We do this, and I tell'em your gonna chase that G10 all day. Trying to replicate a bore using two pins and a flat is an exercise in diminishing returns.

[@15DjjC13]

As a lead programmer i totally agree with this. If I'm off my game there is a host of problems down the line. Automation is key, and using the best technology is a true asset to every company. I like to think im one of the good programmers he is talking about, and owners please know, we are head hunted left and right. Also owners, please know that the software is much less important than the programmer. When hiring, dont just hire someone because they know the software you use, hire the person that offers the best vision, and provide them the tools they ask for. A programmers first pet peeve is a lack of support from management. If we cant get our aoftware maintenance paid, or have no tooling allowance to test new tool paths, get ready to find a new programmer, because we will walk. We are tinkerers, and if you support us, we will make you a lot of money, because we love seeing the machines humming, and parts flying! Nothing is more satisfying to see then the clock of our vision not miss a tick.

[@mowman28]

Totally agree man. Im a programmer that thinks outside the box. My shop for some reason acts like buying new tooling is a sin. I have been getting our tooling vendor to loan us tools or give us free trial inserts. Been improving cycle times and less insert changes. Its annoying to get denied on trial tooling just because our boss who dosent run or program lathes thinks i dont "need" it.

[@jd52wtf]

I wish more companies in all sectors thought like this. Sadly most American industries just want to milk their highly skilled help while paying as little as possible.

[@mafamillemonamie1584]

This can and should be applied to anything that you do to earn a living. If you are helping customers order a big mac or coding the programs for the next mission to Mars, taking pride in your work and putting in the "extra" effort not only brings great success for you, it brings success to the whole company and everyone around you.

[@mikeingram3186]

What about if your trying to improving a company and the owner won’t let you. Example: profiling parts at .110 step down with a face mill. I suggested we buy a 1 inch carbide endmill 3 inches long and profile with it (we typically only do 2.75 thick parts). I explained how we could go full depth and take a 45 min program to less than 5 min. My boss said its to much money. I’m confused because it would save a half an hour

[@laurieagnew6706]

If he means he doesnt want to invest in tooling then that is major alarm bells... a lot of guys that came up with manual machining are very set in their ways regarding depth of cut, feeds speeds etc and are either unwilling or unable to grasp how much things have changed in the industry. Full depth adaptive programs were unheard of 20 years ago

[@fredrikl2594]

Can you make a video showing how to program toolpath for a 3d model as a crankshaft? I have not been able to solve that question Sincerely, Fredrik

[@villavan]

Don't they use CAM software for that?

[@piercer4882]

@@villavan yeah, they use fusion 360, but setting up a tool path for a 3d 5axis cut is not as simple as clicking "create tool path"

[@OrangeGuyBlows]

Great stuff! Companies also need to challenge their workers instead of just having a bunch of sheep on the shop floor. Whether it's by offering training programs, contests or including them in production decisions so they can see what goes on and what's required to make a shop function.

[@TheAefril]

I totally agree, get them involved with the tendering process to win the work. They then become commercially aware and realise how difficult it can be to win tenders. When they 'switch-on' commercially they can see through the 'fog of war' and realise every action taken on the shop floor- either helps or hinders you from winning the next tender in the open market place.

[@OrangeGuyBlows]

@@TheAefril exactly!

[@chaddanylak8706]

if you want to get better and improve, use your own time to get better, by going research and learning new skill, in my free time I current building a 5 axis from scratch using my low-end hobby grade machine because it hard to learn 5 axis machine during work as we always to busy and not many people know how to use the 5 axis very well at my work place

[@dopihead]

You just described my ex boss. He once told us he didn't pay us to think LOL

[@Shershivrajhai]

Titan, I have never thought. Of it this way. But you are 100% rite!!

[@igloo54]

He's also "right." :-)

[@shawnkilpatrick9713]

I would love to learn all the programming aspects, be efficient, and takeover our current programmers position when he retires.

[@TheAefril]

Go for it Shawn, if you have the passion, you will work harder, start everyday earlier, stay back later, concentrate / focus on the job at hand...... See nothing can hold you back, with time the obstacles will be eroded away. Next time you are in the shop, look to your left and ask yourself, can I work harder and smarter than that guy? The look to your right, ask yourself the same thing. Focus on the goal, With time the obstacles will erode away. You cannot lose!! God Bless.

[@CincyPlasmaTech]

No need to wait for the other to retire.

[@shawnkilpatrick9713]

@@CincyPlasmaTech , you are correct and I have been picking up some good information.

[@aaronhenderson4359]

This guy you are speaking of is my boss, advice on how to work under a guy like that.

[@icabod3374]

I have the same problem. I am the lead machinist/programmer/maintenance at a small shop for the past 8 years. The owners attitude is "We've been doing it this way for 20 years don't mess with it." For example, we have been using the same face mills (not the same brand, the SAME face mills for 15 years) and I just now got him to get a tooling specialist to come out to the shop to demo a modern face mill. I've gone from having to index the inserts twice a day with the old face mill to once a week with the modern face mill and I had to twist his arm long and hard to even get him to agree to try it out. Very frustrating to say the least. My next trick is to get him to let me try out an indexable endmill instead of a solid carbide endmill, wish me luck! (BTW, I'm making parts for our own stock, not a part shop where we are making parts for customers)

[@aaronhenderson4359]

I as well make parts for our own stock, been here three years now, spend most of my time on CNC lathes, we still run 90% hss and brazed carbide tooling. And he is not open to anything new

[@Pleasestopthat]

There are more opportunities out there than you would think. If you’re working somewhere like that then you can tell that they’re falling behind and they are eventually going to go down, taking you with them. You’re doing yourself a disservice by not finding a better job with a company that wants to innovate and grow.

[@aaronhenderson4359]

Walker Shumaker I 100% agree, but I live in small town America, nearest machine shop other than the one I work for is 60 miles away. It's not that simple to pack up your life and move elsewhere. Eventually I'll make it to a different shop but that's going to a while from now.

[@TheAefril]

@@icabod3374 Keep the faith brother. Fight the good fight. Your day will come. Be proud in the knowledge that you 'know' what is going on around you. If you have no support, the others must be asleep in the shop. Your opportunity is coming, and you have to grab it with both hands. Even if it doesn't work out, they reject your ideas or new ways of doing things, just hold your head high with confidence, and go to the opposition!

[@romariocoelho5813]

Well said sir! True respect from India. You are a super personality and a good leader 😊😊😊

[@lucasniesciur4620]

Congrats Titan & team, inspirational video. Some time ago i started a project which involves a small cnc router, every day I going to Titans of cnc academy to learn more and improve my skills with my little cnc router hobby, so i want to thanks for all support and content you make available to us... 🇧🇷🤝🇺🇸

[@Audiomainia2310]

After running 3 shops, I've found one thing to be a constant - if you have a programmer that does not have a minimum 2 years of shop floor experience, you'll have a problem. Theoretical and practical machining experience are two different animals.

[@rjhassam2607]

It will be owner to me to see u and meet u. Realy i work cnc just 2 yrs. But u give me new ideas.. 👌👌👌👌👌

[@TritonTv69420]

You should talk about standard operating procedure. Like labeling your operations in Mastercam. I know so many "programmers" who don't label their operations. It's obnoxious. In software companies they fire programmers that don't properly label their functions. Why? because it's a huge waste of time and money to pay someone to figure out a function (computer programming) or an operation (cnc programming) and have the next guy have to waste time trying to figure out what it does. It drives me nuts. It takes less than 2 seconds to type a comment like "roughing profile" or "finishing boss". Those comments allow the next guy to not have to click on the parameters page and look through all these numbers just to know what an already programmed op does. Planes should be labeled in a way that you know which operation they are used on. Levels should be sorted in a way that shows you which level is for which ops as well. It blows my mind that the military has specifications for computer programs that MANDATES that each function is labeled yet machine shops don't enforce the same thing. Nobody should have to click on a toolpath just to see what it does. It's way more mental effort to look at toolpaths and open the parameters page than it is to just read a comment.

[@MantismanTM]

9:26 - Ironic, it's exactly what I've said for so long I can't recall... it's not a job, it's a Lifestyle.

[@bluustreak6578]

Our boss don't want to change anything because it's always worked in the past, and thus is the way it should be done. But I secretly optimized some programs while boss was away, so that they run 4 times faster with a higher tolerance. Gotta dare to utilize the tool's capacity for those roughing passes, and not only do finishing passes :)

[@paulkwiatkowski2929]

after being vocationally trained, starting in the early 80's, i spent my first 18 working years doing nothing but cnc and loved the challenge of the work. unfortunately shop owners like titan are a rare breed (or at least were in my time). i remember shop politics being brutal and the number one demise of shops that caused me to have 15 jobs in my 18 years. my passion was unparalleled but very unwanted amungst the "top dogs" of the shop. my innovations were often stolen as their own or sabotaged all together. the few shops i worked in that had titan-like leaders were unfortunately the ones that had laid me off for economic reasons. the majority i left on my own accord or was asked to leave. and i'm old school g&m code at the controller nodding my head up and down and left to right simulating the tool path. co-workers would be amused watching me. i did have the pleasure of working at 2 amazing shops and i learned from some amazing old timers that were doing advanced fixturing and nested programming way back when. every time i think i should write a book i see titan carrying the torch and telling it straight. after cnc i went into engineering and now for the last 12 years i'm an industrial arts teacher finding it very very hard to find motivated kids. even though i am also a nys certified machine shop instructor, i have never been able to find a job to share my original passion. i watch these videos and dream all the time. i love telling stories.....maybe i should write that book. peace.

[@jonnyenough1531]

Oh boy... My brother has been there, he was ready to quit.. Then he was made programmer. Then parts came off complete instead of reloading and production went up. I work at a different place so I've seen different issues in regards to training.. That's my biggest frustration.

[@173roberto]

Titan, you never talk about sellers or selling techniques. Don't you think that is important?

[@jaymachines7587]

I agree with you but there are not many shops that will pay any more than going rate in the area for a programmer or machinist, whether they can do all these things or not. I’m lucky I work for a company that does pay well but I hear all the time about all the other shops in town that do not. I still argue that there are few companies that pay very well for the required knowledge to do all these things your talking about. We have several big shops in our area that want guys to program and machine large expensive parts for $25/hr that is ridiculously low in my opinion. Aerospace definitely pays the best but the hours are usually insane. I think many people get discouraged because they hit a wall in their career and aren’t getting paid for the results they provide, and it’s not always so easy to just quit and find another shop. I think you get to a point where you don’t want to start all over at another place for another buck and find out it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. Sometimes it’s not just about chasing the money but more that you are satisfied with the work, the people and atmosphere. I do see very few people that are willing to go above and beyond to learn and push their skills to the next level. You just really have to have a passion for this business or you won’t go far period, because otherwise you wouldn’t put up with the low pay and all the crap you have to deal with. Machining is the lowest paying of the skilled trades, unless you work gobs of hours.

[@dillaboo16]

49👎 from all of the guys that got fired from this 🤣

[@quintusengineering-madlabc780]

I agree with so many aspects. A simple example a bush which is machined OD and Id and parted off. In the past I was told to always programme the roughing and finishing tool to X-1.6 if it was running a 0.8 radius. But why if your drilling a 18mm hole for example why not just go to 16,4 the drill will take the rest away. Yes no doubt you might only save a minor second but add those seconds togther! 300 seconds is 5 minutes. Take that according to the hourly rate ($60 per hour ~ $1 per minute) and your saving $$ non the less. 300 ($5) x 300 ($1500) = $$$ $$$ $$$. Every second counts !!

[@teo60hz]

Gold words dude.. Seriously! The only thing that I think is that you have to dadicate your life on you job ONLY if your project is to someday BE the work, creating your own company! If you're one of this kind of programmer you inevitably will create your company. This, at least, is my objective. I am a 25 years old programmer from Italy 🇮🇹 sorry for the English

[@hughobrien4139]

I’ve been in shops that had the worst programmers. Piss poor process priority. Zero understanding of references and allowable deviations. Slow as Christmas cycle times. We the machinist- operators fixed it. Talking to the programmer? Haha! That guy didn’t even put his pants on the same way as everyone else. You could try to talk to him. Just don’t be bothered by the blatant disrespect and do not expect to treat him the way he treated others. That would get you in serious trouble or fired. We worked around him. He’d at least get us a basic program written. This was not ISO compliant by any stretch. The company did extremely well in 99% of the other areas. Keeping tooling highly organized and inspected. More often than not, a tooling cart with a complete filled out inventory list, all the tooling and parts required for the subsequent set up, would be waiting for you when you finalized your last part for a run. You were expected to complete any given setup in under 2 hours and that was very reasonable. Next shop I worked at. Lightening fast programming. Very little error if any on post process side. Always maintained excellent recognition of reference and deviations between operations. Tooling and parts organizations were what I’d call about a F at about 50% of the time. You went into setup after a parts run. Good luck finding your tooling. Giant tombstones missing were like finding a needle in a haystack in that large facility. Then getting a forklift operator who had time to get to what you needed. It was common to be on a setup for 6 hours and nothing would be said to you what so ever. It was just a long frustrating night. Especially knowing that I was lacking on the production side and inspections. I kept track of my deficiencies between cycles during my inspections making sure that I kept that machine operating above all else. My deficiencies while operating fell within acceptable. I was by no way the slowest. Middle of the pack(never liked living there in production). Not the fastest. Set up times ...........My word was that a flop. This shop just would not address that what so ever and supervisors would just kinda laugh when I would voice my frustrations about it. I made my path way out of that company when the Circor group bought it out. The new President came in the first morning and held a conference. Chastised the machinists for their production deficits. Promising termination if it was not improved. Not once was the elephant in the room addressed concerning set up times. This was also an ISO company. The paper work was clear as spring water. Across the board. Set up was killing that company. Yet nothing said or done about it. I can do the math. Your overall productivity is the bottom line. I knew if I could minimize my setup times I could move to the front of the pack rapidly. There was no reason for it at all. They would never stage tooling consistently. Parts were for the most part in stock. Just the tooling side was horrible coupled with the material handling when large tooling was located. The final straw came to me when I came into my work cell one evening and noticed the previous shift machinist grinding on castings before machining them. He was a Vietnamese man who spoke little English. Very good at his job. Helped me out quite a bit. I was in shock when I noticed what he was doing. Grinding the words “Made in China” off of the castings. Being a ISO inspector for a couple of years I knew this was illegal on some kind of level. The shift worker explained to me how the company wanted it done before the parts went into lathe operations. Supervisor briefly stopped by to confirm and walked off before I could even object. I was not about to do that. I ran the parts that night and didn’t grind anything off of the parts I ran. I had already lined out another job and my 2 weeks notice was about to be filed. The next night I walked in the supervisor was standing there waiting to tell me that I had to grind that off of those castings before I machined them. I told him that US customs could seize those parts for that alone. His response was that they weren’t going anywhere over seas just to a Union company that reject castings made over seas. Get it done. Again I did not do it. Supervisor noticed I was not running the grinder and came by telling me to get after it. Then I noticed him with a forklift and a larger already ran pallet of those parts headed toward my work area. Those parts had already been assembled and sent out and rejected. He hopped off the forklift, grabbed a grinder and swiftly removed the letters off the castings,” See? There’s no problem doing that what so ever and nobody is going to arrest me for it either!” I put in my two week notice right then and there. He was frustrated with me at that point and walked off. I never touched that grinder. They never pushed it any further. I worked out my two weeks and moved along. My next job was a better fit. Life was much more enjoyable for it. Missed nothing about the last job. Missed the people from that last job. Great group of workers. Still keep up with some to this day. Several months later that prior company made the nightly news. US Customs had paid them a visit. Seems they were running a grinder across parts and removing the made in China off of the parts and stamping made in America over them. What’s worse is not only did the company pay. They charged the workers in the process of doing it a fine as well. So in my book of nothings that is seemingly contradictory to Titans testimony, I’d say that it all still as to work together for the common goal of efficiency and accuracy. Otherwise the ship is drifting ever near the rocks.

[@michaelguzzi1]

I have a person in mind that deserves to be fired... not in the usual way mind you, but in the way reserved for sordid individuals like him... kicking them in the nuts with a steel toed boot is mandatory lol (but seriously, he fills EVERY criteria in this video and many more, he genuinely enjoys when things go wrong, he revels in the suffering of his colleagues, actively cuts down "competition" by blaming all mishaps on others (even the heat treat guys, (OMG, this part was .5mm oversize before heat treat I swear! they screwed up AGAIN! (yea bud sure)). Arrrgh I'll go now....

[@Holey_Moley]

Damn it! Why do programmers get such a bad name? My boss asked me to replace this programmer because he’s so hard to work with. And I get it. I’ve met my share of bad programmers. But I never hear this about the hr lady that brings down everyone’s moral by being a complete pain in the ass every time you ask a simple question. Or the middle management that always tries to make you do a lot of work but in a way that will never outshine that manager. Making people waste their time so that upper management does not appreciate them ($); driving away good talent from the company. There’s so many people that should be fired. They say 10% of the employees do 90% of the work.. Maybe this is a little bit of a stretch but you know these aren’t the ones constantly brown nosing the boss. The problem with most companies is the upper management rarely talks to the people actually getting work done. So middle management ends up running the place, manipulating upper management sheeple into thinking the workers are so mean and aggressive and dangerous. Too many Napoleons in the work place creating conflict and cliques to distract you from who actually gets work done. Then the boss ends up surrounded by the yes-men who are manipulating him. “Nobody wants to be left behind”.. but some deal with that issue by trying to slow down your best worker. @10:30 I thought I wanted to be that person straight out of college: work my ass off, get good experience, always help my coworkers... and you know what that got me? 3% raises with everybody piling work on me. I had 2 cubicles to myself with both desks filled with about 20 years worth of work at 1 point (I wish I was lying). So in that situation, I decided to focus on me. Give 40 hours but fuck the company beyond that! Any overtime I spent was on improving my own skills and when I moved to a different company, I got a 25% raise because they tested me and recognized my ability. And even at the new job I really listened to the way middle management acted. I’ve been there a little over a year, but I can already tell it’s the same deal. So I continue my personal development and continue waiting for that next door to open. I’m always helpful to everyone, but the moment my generosity gets taken advantage of.. well I did say I’m continuing to look.. My advice to every hard worker: find a ceo to work for that has passion for his product like this channel. Get in where you fit in. Keep movin til you find it! Good luck! Also remember what he said^ nobody is surprised by success.

[@NicosM51]

I often think about this vlog. The company i currently work with, since covid19 crisis let me no other choice, is just ... stingy. At the top level, the policy is to cut into every corner possible, whithout any regard for productivity. They see the pennies they "win" on suppliers bills. They don't (want to) see the thousands of dollars they loose in productivity because of old, unreliable, obsolete machines, because of crappy tooling, and cheap tools. They could cut in ten the time it take to make some parts. They don't. They only think about how to reduce the input cost. I have spent just 9 months in this company. I can't go talk to the boss and say : hey, you run your business as well as a blind monkey would. I often wish somebody like Titan Gilroy would pass by and open their eyes.

[@AshersVids]

This is why you need to really understand G Code. I see so many videos of programs generated by Fusion 360 cutting air. New programmers run CAM software like it's a video game. No clue how to cut out the wasted moves out. I stall machines out pushing the limits sometimes. You need to know what tools are best for the job. Adaptive toolpaths are not always the fastest. However, the idea that you "put in time with the wife and kids" is a recipe for regret. If you equate money with success, you are missing out on life. Wealthy people are not the happiest. If you let your job run your life, you are missing the point to life. Ask older people what is most important. Ask them what they regret. Ask them what they wish they had done. Give your job your best, but keep it in its place. Work to live, don't live to work.

[@Bandeeforlife]

The shop I work at, we manufacture medical products. Mainly in the chromatography realm. We don’t have many dedicated mills, but we have a ton of lathes. Between myself and another co worker, we run, set up and everything 9 citizen Swiss lathes. We don’t have a dedicated programmer, we all do our own programming. But it is very obvious who is interested in making the company money, and who is not when it comes to “thinking outside the box.” There’s a guy who refusing to accept new technology and use proven methods and such. Why is it the other guy and I can run 9 machines while another guy there only runs one lathe, and thinks he is top notch just because hes been there 18 years, and I’ve only been there 4. I hear what your saying Titan. God bless sir.

[@saintsplays8453]

I've been waken of your words sir. may be my efforts are not enough to earn that. maybe I should look outside the box and change every little thing whatever it takes. I would try ones again and gonna see things gonna show them what I really worth to them. ill let them pay the price and if that thing goes other way then my life sucks here for almost 10 years giving my service. (Philippines) and i also dreaming to work with you sir. thank you NOTICE this MR. TITAN.

[@truthwatche6939]

Hey Titan, what about taking a oem planetary gear and making the parts stronger? Are you guys able to take a gear and reproduce it out of stronger Material? I build and race Mitsubishi Eclipses , more specifically the 1992 awd auto. There is very limited support in our community. The guys that do have difficulty getting things machined. It seems like it takes a year for a small run of parts. I know it comes down to $$$ , it would be neat to see something like that.

[@BuildAProWorkShop]

I walked into an old Honeywell shop taken over by another company and after a month I couldn't get the programmer/engineer to do anything because that's the way it has been running for 20 years. So I said fuck it and rewrote the entire program in pieces and stopped a couple common crash problems and a stupid inverter error from happening saving about 6 parts per day on top of 150 we make but theres 2 machines so 12. Now it's been 1 month and I only did half of the changes I wanted and cut run time from 3 mins 40 secs to 2 mins and 28 secs. Today was a big change that saves 40 seconds and I have yet to tell management but we have half our parts outsourced because we cant make them fast enough in the 2 machines and they dont want to invest in new equipment. I face palm when I think about all the old equipment they have not updated. They still have 80% if the shop in mechanical 50 year old machines. They don't understand the capabilities they could take advantage of on newer machines

[@garygriffin3114]

I wish you ran the company I work for, your perspective is so refreshing. Over 20 years as a CNC machinist that did the programming for the machines I ran I am sincere when I say I loved it and my attitude was I wanted to do more and do it better. Sadly I work for a company that failed to appreciate it. GOOD message Titan.

[@tonyloosa9500]

I love the programming aspect of being a CNC machinist. I'm not the lead machinist/programmer in my company, but I have analyzed the tool paths and have taken as much as 4 hours off the total run time of some parts. I'm still trying to figure out the speeds and feeds of the tooling. If I can lock that down, then I will just be limited on the workload. Learning Mastercam now thanks to the Titan Academy. But like the software I have at my shop, does it run the most efficient tool path?

[@adamsblanchard836]

Yeah, they would make out if everyone was on the same page with accepting or rejecting and machinist coming into qc that realize the actual work and knowledge involved should be more common and vice versa. I say it that way cuz that's the experience ive first handedly witnessed and was involved with fully, of course it take more dedication to run "machines" but, not one layout same layout time after time....

[@bangthehankers1985]

I am this person because no one else wants to do it. They don’t want responsibility. That’s fine, because I couldn’t stand the way other people wasted money and time. They not only remain inside the box, they refuse to change anything for fear of reprisal from the 2IC above us, irrational as that is. There is a major clash of cultures, such that it’s useless to try and fix. Where they come from, work is just for survival, close enough is good enough, and extra effort is not rewarded. It’s decades of baked-in habit and work ethic and I’m done trying to change them, so I’m just waiting for them to retire or lose employment.

[@Inok_-]

haha, i do program some parts, but the other guy just trown the tools on the parts, killing them, random speeds and feeds, i can just watch, because i did said some things, showing we can improve, but they dont care at all, and the tools are Always the same, to every material, and all kinds of operations, so how can i improve the programs..... when i dont have support about the tools i have to use, like what they can do, how much material they can dig out of the parts, also the cooling lololol, 2 years with the same one inside the machine, the tools just burn, machining AISI 304 with an 8mm end mill from iscar at 1500rpm and it still dont survive to much. and yes it is a considerable size company that can make improvements . but they just ask if the part is done. sorry for my bad english :D

[@jameswillingham5536]

in the end...rarely if ever do most Customers visit. Usually its someone who knows someone, and its a Purchasing Agent that does the deal. Stay current absolutely. I love a great feel good and stating the obvious story as anyone. There is so much more to snapping your fingers and making everything efficient. Even cutting edge companies have holes in their boat. Amazing pep talk none the less, takes more to it than firing the Programmer....

[@vpmexpress1457]

There lots of people always in a fog or DGF attitude out there act like they’re smart and don’t know shit, work easy earning try to get all the credit BS. And they get away with it. Always wanting to get over, What a joke. I hate working around people like that. I don’t want to be near them. Losses morale. That’s how business fall apart...

[@stevebell1128]

Big big thing is allowing people make genuine mistakes (hopefully small mistakes) without repercussions if they're trying new things to make it better. Obv someone who makes more mistakes than right calls ain't good, but culture in a company is also key. Basically avoid egos.

[@Radoslaw1986xx]

Omg, it's just like in a company where I work. Everything like you said. Programmer says it's been like that for years and I should not change anything. I've modified his program and it allowed me to do the same part in 20 minutes instead of 60. And technology he is writing is old also..

[@julioalvarez6294]

Unfortunately many places don’t think like you do titan they think I’m ways of saving $ instead of taking care of their employees which will yield a bigger rate in return. Most people will work their ass off if they had an employer like you it’s just in our nature . To have a common goal and work towards that goal and being part of something means a lot . I will definitely gift “ the dichotomy of leadership “ to all my ex-bosses!

[@rufusleers]

Here's my advice. If you actually want to learn machining, then go to a smaller machine shop. You will learn. If you want to be treated like dirt, stepped on, and underpaid. Go to a bigger manufacturing company.

[@jwvica01]

You have to have profit sharing, this is how you motivate, otherwise what is my incentive to make the company more profitable? That's why I like working for myself. Without profit sharing you get the "punch in punch out" factory mentality. When I see the owner with new boat, new truck, etc. and everybody else is working for a flat wage? No thanks my friend. Everyone has to be working toward a common goal with shared rewards. Rare and difficult to achieve.

[@hiredgoon242]

after 20 years of CNC machining and programming I have to say the largest barrier to improvement has 90% of the time been the owner/president. cheapness, ignorance and narcissism seem to be a pre-requisite.

[@adamsblanchard836]

Companies fire people they know most of the team is on board and talking up said persons reputation, weigh out the present situation as a whole, make sudden uninformed decisions based on the power and pride of all individuals amongst himself without any real choice or challenge, your or whoever's fate is in the boiling waters.... comes to be....

[@1993Burner]

I cannot tell you how correct you are in this. The company that I worked for was set up for massive success and a brilliant future but because the stupid programmer refused to fix things or listen to people who knew better we lost $10 million of contracts over a weekend and were out of business a couple of months later. Tolerance what's tolerance? If the company doesn't like the product we produce it won't raise the price of tea in China. These are the things this guy would say and management always backed him up. Because of an incompetent and arrogant programmer I lost the best job I ever had with a company with the most potential that I have ever been a part of. Thank you for this video.

[@MrJTJINX]

I totally agree with this perspective. I do however have one caveat, if you have that one fantastic machinist who is lifting the company and taking it forward its not necessarily the case that that person or the management will bring the rest of the team up and up skill where required. They are terrified of allowing low level employees unused spindle time to perfect skills etc, in case they break the machines. Its just as easy to break a machine running a scheduled job as a button pusher as it is towards the end of the day in a period of slack time. The modern business model has forgotten they have a responsibility to teach skills to their employees. The UK has a particular issue where Universities and colleges have got rid of their machine shops due to the cost of keeping them running and the unlikelihood of being donated machines from manufacturers. The students leave education having hardly used a machine. The degree as a minimum entry to the workforce thing has killed skills to the point employers complain that there is a skills shortage and yet if an employee isn’t slaving to their tune they don’t see advancing staffs skills as a priority. You can only fix the skills shortage by teaching skills, 20 years now and still the penny hasn’t dropped. This education degree thing was driven by the universities to get bums on seats in order for them to make money. Industry jumped on the bandwagon as they deceived themselves that having a highly educated workforce made them stand out from other companies in an attempt to put themselves ahead of the competition. That’s fine but who was teaching the skills. Your programs Titan are fantastic and are empowering people but its still at a stage where the vast majority of your subscribers are self-teaching for either self-employment or to substitute the lack of skills training on the shop floor. Sadly neither will make them the go to guy until the employers/management take a big wake up pill.

[@demang0405]

I think we’re assuming that owners actually pass on some, even a very small portion of the profit of a programmers efficiency back to the deserving programmer. More often than not a company keeps all and any profit from a modern and dynamic programmer. This fact alone kills any real drive to do better for the company. From what I’ve experienced and seen in the industry for my short 20 years of being in this industry, the only great programmers do it for self pride and not from any real motivation from a company leadership above the programmers position. I love what I do. I live what I do. My life even outside of work is about seeing and recognizing dynamic ways of circumstances. Still no real recognition in terms of financial benefit for this said programmers or this type of employee is usually seen. Very rare. For me. I do it because it’s a perfect career for my personality and that’s why I’m great at it.

[@adammcallister9675]

As a guy who has been the under-appreciated workhorse as well as the boss, you have staff that are always leveling up and those who are not. It is that simple. Those who level themselves up usually are leveling other people up. I am the type of guy who will go outside the box, burn it down, build the next best one just to do something better for its own sake. But I am always looking for the right place that will give it a proper home.

[@Smash_Moore]

Firstly i love your content and youve really opened my eyes to whats possible in the CNC world. I agree with you if you want to really succeed then yes all that you say is true, but is there not a place for being content with a small amount of money and leaving work at work. is there not a place for 40hour weeks that means you can spend more quality time with your family. the two main resources in life are Time and Energy, dont waste them building someone elses dreams at a huge cost to you. i know we probly wont see eye to eye but thats fine. i guess CNC isnt my main passion, currently im building up my youtube channel and making sure i get the most out of every minute. hope you read this titan! BOOOOOM