This New CNC laser is amazing! - The cost effective LONGER RAY5 10W - New!August 2022

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Watch Joshua De lisle AWCB walk you through the creation process with his welded and hand forged works of Art and Luxury items.
In this episode we take a close look at the LONGER RAY5 10W desktop cnc laser. I'm testing its WIFI function and offline controls as well as its abillity to engrave stainless steel, cut fine complex shapes and thick hard wood ply. The results are amazing!
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[@joshuadelisle]

As my valued subscriber enjoy these discount Codes: $409.99 (lowest price ever) Coupon code(reduce $30 more): R510WSAVE30 Discount: $10 OFF over $100 $40 OFF over $300 $80 OFF over $600 Promo time: 20th Nov - 30th Nov : www.longer3d.com/pages/big-sale 110v (US) Laser engraver: s.zbanx.com/r/aC1rxbHsOWMu 240v (UK/EU) Laser engraver: s.zbanx.com/r/u5o1bLeWujNu Air assist/accessories : s.zbanx.com/r/U4RIOdsWbpxi For latest news and insights visit our instagram page here: instagram.com/delisledesign

[@samikh7795]

I mean the design of the wooden box, I want to design the shapes of the wooden box configuration

[@joshuadelisle]

@@samikh7795 the box I designed myself. I can make that available for download if you like? I was going to make a set of many sizes for download. Cheers J

[@berjackson614]

@@joshuadelisle please, i love it too.

[@biomorphic]

Now it is $200.

[@oldstory8763]

Can you explain in hindi

[@enricomayers]

When producing your files to engrave/cut, its best to cut inner shapes first and then the final shape last. If you cut out the external perimeter first, there is a chance the piece will shift, since it's no longer attached to the source wood. Inner to outer will ensure the alignment remains the same. Doesn't seem to be an issue on this particular project, but there may be some designs where it'll come in to play.

[@SensibleCreeper]

Great editing, great product trials, great music... and a realistic outlook on making things. Subbed!

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. Cheers J

[@truth7416]

You are an absolutely awesome presenter and your video is perfectly edited. To the point. But thanks a lot! I didn't even know I needed a laser cnc! LOL

[@OneRiff]

Joshua this was an amazing video.. those companies need to pay you much more. Happy New year 🎉

[@thewizardsofthezoo5376]

It's crazy how these machines have evolved in a couple of years, before only industrial actors could afford this kind of technology, very impressive, thanks for the vid! Great job. People underestimate the work that goes in a video. Mainstream has teams working around the clock, but they do such a poor job that people like you have to carry the burden of their topics single handedly, the good thing is that you don't have to report to the man, well almost. Again big thumbs up!!

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much for your support and encouragement. It's good to know that you understand the work involved. hopefully I'll be able to keep a balance of being valuable to both my subscribers and sponsors and so continue to produce more videos like this. All the very best. Cheers J

[@Dickdeath]

Simply amazing content...ONE of the best channels I love to watch and learn from. Everything you can possibly want to know about these machines along with business advice and real world scenarios....SIMPLY a top ten channel for all of us who live in the real world and want/need to create awesome and practical things to use or sell...OK ill stop now but you get it if you get it..!! THX MAN pls don't stop EVER..!

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much you're very kind. Lots more coming soon and should have good ideas for business in the next video. Cheers J

[@paulstandley600]

Superb video, your style of presentation is spot on.

[@michaelbishton9439]

This cut through the fog of "what can I really do with this?" Thank you.

[@GRAHAMAUS]

Didn't even know I wanted one of these, but now I do! Very good presentation style, have a new sub.

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. Lots more to come. Cheers J

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Very nice job explaining and review this beautiful tool. Congrats. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years to come my friend Joshua. Can't wait to see more videos soon Joshua. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God bless.

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. I've got a few blacksmithing videos on the horizon coming. Got few more lasers to review and other big tools for the workshop including a jib hoist, hydraulic table, hydraulic power unit and an electric power bank for welding on site. Thank you always for your support and encouragement. Cheers J

[@SchysCraftCo.]

@@joshuadelisle your very welcome. Awesome. Congrats. Can't wait. Always great learning and watching your videos.

[@heardashot]

As usual, a most enjoyable and well delivered video! This is incredibly exciting technology and very well explained with a super & very fair review. Thank you very much Josh, this is super helpful. Very much looking forward diving into this at some stage when the few bob allows.

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. I've got more to review so save your pennies until you see the rest 😉 cheers J

[@heardashot]

@@joshuadelisle 😆👊...Will do Josh! Thanks!!

[@ignatiusreilly8280]

Oh you cheerleading ninny.

[@Truzo]

Your videos are top notch. Keep up the good work !

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. Cheers J

[@your1servant]

Thank You, You educated me and you made me laugh, what more can I ask.

[@tlx4868]

Great stuff, I just got my first small scale cnc (with laser and spinner)and I'm totally amazed what I can make with that. Thank you for the video, I wish you a great and productive year 2023 !

[@runi5413]

Which one did you get? (I'm thinking of getting one but I don't know where to start)

[@tlx4868]

@@runi5413 I got Vevor 3018 Pro with 500mW laser, easy to set up and works great with routing soft materials (max aluminum) Cutting anything else but cardboad with that laser needs to be forgotten though. Im running it with linux and did not even require too much a headache ;) For laser work I would recommend paid version of lightburn. For router I have used UGS, importing milling and routing work from any cad is easy. For laser in my version of the machine I need to set the laser mode on manually on the cli.

[@runi5413]

@@tlx4868 Oh cool, I was actually considering a Vevor but I couldn't find much about it on youtube or anything, so thx a lot for the tip 👍They got a sale on one model with a 7W laser so that should be beefy enough for what I'm planning to do with it. Will definitely check out Lightburn, too, thx for the info and happy lasering 😎

[@slatey2609]

Well worth 16 minutes of my life and you made my brain itch with ideas🤩👌👍ps I subscribed...

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. Cheers J

[@skydivekrazy76]

This is the first time I've done across this kind of device. But I can already imagine businesses spring up, using these with special mounts on the Cybertruck from Tesla. Making full body art for the vehicles...

[@bubba6945]

i like that puzzle you made. this is good video thanks for sharing it

[@iq0099]

I agree with the height adjust + air assist + limit switches + safety need imporvement

[@zachtish5479]

This is fascinating and seems to be an easy transition from my 3D printing. Nice work!

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you. Yes I know what you mean. I have an ender 3 and setting up was just as simple. Cheers J

[@CyberBobCity]

I also enjoy 3D printing and have been looking into lasers. Great video!

[@joshuadelisle]

@@CyberBobCity thank you. Yes they are very similar to operate. A great addition to the workshop I think. Cheers J

[@0Logan05]

Digging the Channel.. Lots of well documented information.. Rad🤙🏻

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. Cheers J

[@WKSperformance]

amazing. congrats buddy

[@trollobite1629]

3D printers, eat your hearts out. That is an outstanding model.

[@bnf3t]

Hi just come across you for the first time, now you've got me thinking what can I make one of these !!

[@Tarbard]

Good video. That box is awesome, I also enjoyed the music.

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. I try my best with every video. Cheers J

[@bbasmdc]

Ordered the 10W package with your discount code - thank you! I've just discovered "layered mandala" wall art and I can't wait to have a go. Thank you for the review.

[@joshuadelisle]

Well done. Those are awesome designs, I'll be doing a few of those too. Also doing inlays with different coloured woods are great to do on these. All the very best. Cheers J

[@russtecauto]

That box is really nice!!

[@iandonkin6762]

Nice haircut (and you’ve had a shave)! Love your videos and as always, thanks for making / sharing this excellent content.

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you Ian. I am all about inconsistency 😅. Cheers J

[@iandonkin6762]

@@joshuadelisle I'd counter that you're all about creativity and excellent workmanship, with a healthy dose of highly watchable content and well-informed commentary sprinkled in! That intricate box is just so cool!

[@joshuadelisle]

@@iandonkin6762 thank you so much. I appreciate your encouragement. Your very kind. Cheers J

[@fatbastard.]

Your videos are so cool and well presented. Well done 👍

[@accuratealloys]

Thank you. Liked and subscribed.

[@luckystar4779]

Hi Joshua, COOL! Another great video. Thanks! 👍

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. Cheers J

[@zsavage1820]

SUPER VIDEO.... thank you for sharing..!!!

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you for watching. cheers J

[@neurofiber2406]

This tech is on my bucket list so I subscribed... 😀

[@joshuadelisle]

Awesome thank you. Lots more to come. Cheers J

[@deaththekid0yt814]

Bị nghiện bài này từ thời Bảo Thy, ko ngờ lại có ngày được nghe idol mới trong lòng mình Đức Phúc cover lại. Cảm ơn em ĐP vì đã cover lại lắng đọng cảm xúc như vậy

[@FatChanceTheCouchDog]

@ Joshua De Lisle: DUUUDE! That box you made had me way more amazed than probably was reasonable. I really liked that. Sure, the puzzle box was really interesting too but the box at the end is utilitarian and the concept can be adapted to many uses and applications, in my mind anyway. That last part, where you said to get out there and forge a life worth living... Solid titanium advice there man. Loved it. Stick that slogan on a shirt and sell it to us. This vid got the like&sub combo.

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much that's very kind. Yep got lots more boxes to make for all my other tools with slots for bits and engrave size numbers on it. Cheers J

[@hornetboy3694]

Awesome video thank you Joshua

[@joshuadelisle]

Your very welcome. Cheers J

[@jamiecook3966]

Great Job buddy!

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you James. Cheers J

[@dizzlefshizzle]

I love your makers mark!! My name is JD and I almost used to draw the same symbol of my initials the same way back in middle school 25 years ago 😆 🤣

[@fathead1968]

Great video, awesome machine. I've just ordered one, and found a new channel to subscribe to!😃

[@joshuadelisle]

Well done. I like it too. cheers J

[@SawdustCreationsbyMike]

Rengue has the laser adjustment exactly as you suggested

[@BarHRanch]

“Hmm, how can I tap these delicate pieces together? Ah, sledge hammer.” 😂

[@joshuadelisle]

It's the blacksmith in me... Every problem can be solved with a hammer 😅

[@slatey2609]

I used to hit my TV back in the late 60s with a hammer as it had valves inside and that worked just fine as to why I have no idea but it worked👍

[@johnrhodes3350]

You might know how a starter motor can stick and requires a gentle tap. Well I'd actually never come across this until, there we all were sitting in a helicopter. immediately before take-off the Pilot hopped out with a little hammer.

[@mjolnirswrath23]

@@joshuadelisleA carpenter thinks the same way ...

[@thomasherrin6798]

It's more like a lump hammer!?!

[@benth162]

For a second there I thought it was cutting out parts for a "Antikythera" mechanism. Wow great machine !

[@ChinJazz]

Hey Joshua, over the last few days I've been checking out your reviews of CNC Lasers... Thanks so much!!! I'm in that downward spiral/rabbit hole researching these 10W lasers, but I think your reviews is helping me dial in what would work for me. 10W, and a longer bet like 400m x 850mm, so a Ortur LM3 Laser w/extension kit would work, but of course a more costly entry point. Anyway, carry on your awesome reviews :)

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. I uave a 20w LONGER module to test soon and 50w co2 laser coming up next month. Cheers J

[@ChinJazz]

@@joshuadelisle Awesome, looking forward to it!

[@TheSaltyLunatics]

We are getting the longer 30 watt and I am so excited. It will be a lot better than the xtool we were using. Thanks for the review❤🥰💯

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much and all the very best. Cheers J

[@patriotvet5569]

Outstanding video!

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you. Cheers J

[@stephenmcangus1981]

Fantastic video! Appreciate this showing off the capability of these systems. As much as I'd love to invest in one of these open air CNC lasers, my biggest apprehension is safety around using one of these. 10W DC lasers can easily blind someone, and the shield on these systems does not account for reflection, which can arise from Metal engraving. (Might be an excuse for me to build some robust shroud).

[@joshuadelisle]

Definitely a box of a fire retardant description is needed as well as extraction . I'm currently testing a 50w co2 laser that has an enclosure and extraction. Honestly the diode laser are still looking good in comparison especially in marking stainless steel. Cheers J

[@davey3765]

Great review

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you Davey. Cheers J

[@kojomensah7474]

Greetings this could be used on internal doors/ yr own individual desingns for your home

[@garystevenson1356]

Thanks

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much, that's very kind. Cheers J

[@P1stola86]

Great video. 👍. Also, what is the name of the company that sells the files to make the box? Would love to see what else they offer too

[@justmakeit2616]

Im thinking about to buy such a machine for the same reason. Plasma cutting. Also a bezinning blacksmith

[@smithjohn3080]

Would be interesting to see if you get the temper colors with an argon flood for the laser area 🤔

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

Cheers Josh, nice machine. I got the old Chinese workhorse, the 40-watt K40, about 10 years ago. Great for cutting acrylic, engraving wood and metal but can't cut metal since it's a CO2 laser. Looking forward to your oxyacetylene vid :))

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you Gary. Lots to come. Cheers J

[@jutkafarkascatchthef]

What is that incredible box thank you❤

[@McGutschy2]

Thanks for the entertaining. Hope you will get good deals.

[@joshuadelisle]

Some great things on the horizon. Hopefully I'll negotiate good deals for you guys to benefit from. Cheers J

[@earlsauls.7510]

Outstanding Job

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you. Cheers J

[@mrkooze]

Your voice is premier league worthy.

[@joshuadelisle]

You're very kind. Thank you. Cheers J

[@terryeason4319]

👍👍 thank you

[@DeliberateNRandom]

Excellent video! Very interested in buying one after this!

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you. Lots more to come. Cheers J

[@paladrous]

Dude, you are the hairiest man I've ever seen, that is amazing

[@joshuadelisle]

Real man 👊😎👍

[@FC-eo9tn]

..........THANK YOU! ....where do i find free patterns for printing?

[@Steve.Garrison]

Great review! I'm getting the 10 watt version soon. Your home-made air assist nozzle is just pointed at the laser spot? How effective is that at keeping the lens clean if it's not under positive pressure? Subscribed.

[@joshuadelisle]

It blows away the debri away from the lense keeping it clean. Its not a permanant solution and maybe 3D printing one would be much better. cheers J

[@007JHS]

I thought you were making a birch ply model of the antikythera machine.

[@newmonengineering]

for cutting every laser, diode or co2 works better with air assist for a few reasons. it adds oxygen to the fire as it's burning, as well as clears the line of sight for the laser to the material. I'm surprised that these LED lasers haven't had air assist from the very beginning to be honest. but I guess few people thought they would cut at that time? not sure but it should be standard on every machine

[@joshuadelisle]

I totally agree. Cheers J

[@schnizzyfizz7832]

These are just the bare basics, no air assist, no safety enclosure. Like buying a car that is just the frame, wheels and engine with no chassis. Is it cheap? Yes! Will it drive? Yes! Is it safe to use? Hell no!

[@lusiscus]

Nice video and machine. Where do you get the patterns from, do you have to buy them?

[@nnanc]

Have you ever tried cutting glass?

[@pauljarine]

How well can the lasers cut Delrin?

[@jannejohansson3383]

Vacuum table to wood panels etc could be good too.. there's so many opportunities to make things more superior. That vacuum gives max ~1kg/cm2 force maximize to keep workpiece stay in place. It keeps piece in level for sure..

[@NaingLinnhtun-wh3rc]

Very useful career

[@MysticBlue64]

More amazing video's. Thank you. Have I watched your recent tests on low cost desktop lasers. which would you choose based on value for money not just lowest cost.

[@joshuadelisle]

I have 9 lasers now. Several haven't made the cut (figuratively and literally). I think this one is actually my favourite of the 10w models. I like the screen and using it without a computer and the laser has been consistent and reliable. They're giving me a 20w module for it next year to try out which is exciting. I'm also testing a 50w co2 laser shortly but that's 10x the price. Cheers J

[@michailmishytin3342]

hi Joshua. it is very funny to watch how the model that I developed is cut out in the review of the laser machine. You should have taken a safe, this model is much more interesting in terms of functionality 😄

[@michaelarnold4148]

😀 Hi. They have added Air Assist to thier product Line now. Nice review. Not a user just interested in technology.

[@joashango6541]

Hello there. How does one acquire the file for the geared and keyed box?

[@SquintedVisions]

Interested in the patens. Where did you get them for the puzzle box?

[@WdyWP]

Titanium is great for getting colors!!!

[@robmills4709]

Hi Joshua, great video. I have the Ortur Laser Master Pro 2, for this you can get a z axis adjuster, around 50 quid,, the fire detection can be turn off in the settings via console. Love both boxes.

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you. Nice one 👍. I'm reviewing the Ortur 3 coming up soon. Cheers J

[@robmills4709]

@@joshuadelisle look forward to seeing your review, looks agood laser. I added the 10w module to my LM 2, good results and quick.

[@joshuadelisle]

@@robmills4709 yeah I like it. I believe LM3 is the same laser module just a more robust gantry with an app controller. Cheers J

[@samrix5793]

Interested in what patterns there are, did you have a private download for this at all?

[@gamemissions8057]

hi Is there any laser source that runs out after a lot of work and need to replace it?

[@beverlyhillscop90210]

The cool thing: You can make it LONGER

[@user-qy9rg3nt2l]

Dude over here summoning Cenobites, and we just go along for the ride.

[@joshuadelisle]

Lol. Cheers J

[@oldstory8763]

Lock vala boksh bna skte he kta

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

i am wondering if the resolution is good enough to write text and logos on a chip package. that would be nice for some low volume production where you buy empty microcontrollers or fpgas, program them, remove the original writing and apply the new product name. usually the manufacturers can do this as well but with volumes lower than 10.000 pieces they don't even have time to speak with you. and of course it costs extra.

[@russellvalence2456]

Just a heads up, if you mask off the wood with wide format masking tape, the wood will stay looking clean on the face. You’ll just have to remove the tape that is leftover.

[@joshuadelisle]

Great tip. Thank you

[@leticiagonzalez3073]

Can you tape on top of modge podge by chance?

[@Lea-ww9hf]

Hey!!! Thank you for the video!! Really interesting! I got the Ortur LM2 10W do you know if it's the same as that one?

[@joshuadelisle]

Hi. The Ortur 10w is a great machine and can cut just like this one. This one has its own built in offline controller which is very handy. I've got more machines to review also. Cheers J

[@MIchad231]

bummer.. not available in US? Enjoyed video thanks!

[@user-zp2pf2xi8t]

love the videos, just had my first laser cutter/engraver so its good to watch any helpful tips, i love the locking jewelry box, where would i find the pattern for that if anyone can help please

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you so much. You'll have to try and get in touch with Longer as that's who gave it to me. All the very best. Cheers J

[@StephenBoyd21]

A 10W laser can cut 9mm plywood!! I am blown away.

[@joshuadelisle]

It's slow (100-200mm per minute) but it does it all by it's self. Cheers J

[@alwayscensored6871]

Wow, these things seem useful. No longer toys. And that box tickles my Steampunk acquisition sensors.

[@wle_ir]

in longer ray5 , how many millimeters is the length of the following profiles? 1 - x-axis frame profile 2 - left and right frame profile 3 - rear and front frame profile Thank you for telling me the exact size of these profiles

[@junnyq23]

I ran the demo and the results were awesome. What type of software and computer do I need to start doing my custom designs? Thanks again

[@joshuadelisle]

Hi. Well done. If you can download lightburn you can design and cut most things from there. Cheers J

[@skipke002]

hi joshua where can i find the jewelery box can i buy this one thx thx

[@randomtux1234]

12:11 one pass, many passes fill the cut with soot, which the laser cant penetrate??

[@joshuaplank883]

If it can engrave steel, does that mean it can cut it too? Could it cut other metals?

[@prestonian1066]

Looks like a decent machine for the money. I don't suppose anyone knows if there would be any import fees to the UK and what they are likely to be (roughly)?

[@Sebabs32Unbox]

Hello Joshua. Thanks for all the detailed explanations. A question. If you were a beginner and had to pick only 1 btw a creality falcon 10w, a longer ray5 10w a sclpfun 10w and a comgrow x1, which eould you.pick?

[@joshuadelisle]

I would probably pick the comgrow because it's cheap, works fine, can be extended and they do a 20w upgrade module. The Longer Ray5 has the offline controller which is great but now that I use Lightburn for most projects it's simple enough just to keep it linked to the computer. Cheers J

[@j00bs]

do you think this would be suitable for making aluminum injection molds? thank you for the highly detailed and informative video

[@joshuadelisle]

no this won't touch aluminium at all. cheers J

[@dprojects.woodworking]

+1, this wooden box is epic ;-)

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you. Cheers J

[@GaryMcNeill]

I have a 10w laser... I didnt know I could engrave stainless steel :o

[@ghaljfas]

Hi Josh, What industry/businesses did you hit up for the scrap plywood and which ones would you suggest looking into for nice offcuts? Cheers, Peter

[@joshuadelisle]

Hi Peter. So I found by chance a small shed making factory. I was picking up shavings from them for animal bedding and they had stacks of off cuts available. I also found that the large DIY stores who supply cutting services for their sheet material also give away off cuts for a charity donation. I think googling a local wood working business and popping over on the off chance you're likely to find some. Hope that helps. Cheers J

[@cybernetrix]

Love the laser videos. Finally decided to get one after watching your last video. A good tip for reducing burning on the face of wooden parts is to cover the piece in masking tape before cutting. When it's peeled off it takes the soot with it and your left with a clean piece.

[@joshuadelisle]

Thank you David. That's a great tip. I'll use that in the next review, well done on your purchase they're great tools and I think I'm going to set up another channel dedicated to them with my own designs for cutting. Cheers J

[@cybernetrix]

Yes I'm so pleased I went for it. I originally planned to convert it to a CNC plasma but am having so much fun with it as is I may have to get another for that project.

[@joshuadelisle]

@@cybernetrix nice! There are cheap ones on Banggood again now at the £150 mark. I'm loving them too. Cheers J

[@davidorf3921]

Also if doing a lot of laser cutting get hold of the widest tape that will fit your laser bed, for example 3M do tape up to 1450 mm wide. Another tip is that if you are cutting say very thing card or wood sheets and want to laminate them together for a sculptural type effect, buy sheets of douple sided tape (like double sided sticky tape but in large sheets) and apply before cutting, the laser will go straight through the tape along with the material creating the perfect shaped pre applied stick on backing

[@joshuadelisle]

@@davidorf3921 good tip thank you. Cheers J