Firearms Expert Reacts To BattleBit Remastered’s Guns PART 2

[@jocax188723]

We absolutely need to see Jonathan talk to the devs directly. It’s just the logical conclusion to this series, now.

[@zwenkwiel816]

yeah, I mean he's already doing free consulting here XD

[@tbotalpha8133]

@@LostHope84 It does look like a game.

[@mltmatt9153]

totally agree

[@michaelbannan9972]

​@@LostHope84Stay mad at the gfx

[@timsmith618]

​@LostHope84 I'd rather have simplistic graphics that run buttery smooth than hyper-realism that takes millions of dollars and thousands of work hours and dozens of gigabytes. This game is more fun for $15 than any big name shooter I've played for $60

[@MatthaisUK]

The inclusion of the conversation between David & Jonathan was a great addition to an already brilliant series. Hope it continues.

[@Cheesepuff8]

Yeah I really really like seeing more of what goes on in the videos They just feel more natural and genuine and complete

[@IrregularDave]

You can call me Dave ❤️

[@JoeS-pm3ys]

Agreed

[@Flohhupper]

I actually disliked that part. It slowed down the videos quite a lot and feels more unstructured, unpolished in a way.

[@iamReddington]

@@Flohhupper You'd be incorrect.

[@qwerty4685]

Devs of battle bit actuality reacted to the first episode. Very wholesome to see their hard work appreciated by experts.

[@warp1174]

​@@Cheesepuff8kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6umiJ1jqdqYsK8

[@rdowg]

​@@Cheesepuff8there's a search bar right at the top

[@IrregularDave]

They sent me that clip. Was really heartwarming to watch!

[@royliber3824]

Not only that, but they are taking notes in everything Jonathan says in order to improve player experience! I think they should take notes with the Kriss Vector tho. Even with it being an actual life laser-beam, they can balance it out by making it single or burst only which does exist in real life like Jonathan said.

[@MrPesht]

@@royliber3824 Except it isn't a laser beam. I seriously wonder if they ever actually fired one or just read the marketing hype and decided it was like that. Jonathan even said it still has significant recoil.

[@joshuapowell2675]

A part 2? Man he must like what he's seeing from this game!

[@itrisia]

Or the videos on Battlebit just get a lot of views

[@hoodiekid8439]

PART 3 INCOMING!!!

[@zwenkwiel816]

@@itrisia also the game just has a ton of guns, more than you could cover in a single video.

[@Chrius]

@@LostHope84 You're here too...

[@hokuhikene]

​@@LostHope84 And there we have the one hater that only plays games that set his grafic card on fire while running it. Always a classic😂

[@the7observer]

AK5C: Is not an Kalash for those wondering, the name comes from Swedish Automatkarbin (automatic carbine), hence the Ak abreviation. The gun itself is the FN FNC

[@osynlighetsmantel]

To add to this: What Ferguson says about the C denoting the AK5C as a carbine is incorrect, as @the7observer notes, the K in AK does this. the AK5C is just a modernized version of the AK5 with added features such as picatinny rails for optics and accessories, last round bolt hold open and an adjustable stock.

[@TehFrenchy29]

@@osynlighetsmantel Yeah the "C" is just to denote it's the next iterative variant of the weapon, like how many companies will use a number or year. The Ak5 was the original adoption, the Ak5B had an optical sight as standard, the Ak5C is fairly modular and takes a bunch of different optional accessories. There's also an Ak5D that's a compact version of the weapon for greater mobility and easier vehicle access while still using a rifle caliber but even that's not really the "carbine version" it's more like turning an M4 into a Mk18.

[@cherenkov_blue]

Funnily enough, the operating system is still similar

[@the7observer]

@@osynlighetsmantel ah yes well pointed, I forgot that the C is a version designation like the Ak 5B (marksman) and Ak 5D (shortened barrel, most likely an 10 inch). So C is not carbine but like verion A, B, C, D

[@dark2023-1lovesoni]

In most other gun nomenclature, the C or K suffix USUALLY indicates a shortened version of a longer gun. C most often stands for Carbine/Compact (or equivalent words in other languages, which are usually cognates). K is more of a Germanic language suffix, usually standing for the term Kurz (short). The AK5c DOES have a shorter barrel than the traditional AK5, so it's an extremely common mistake to make. Especially since in most other standard gun terminology a shorter variant will usually have a C suffix on the name. Even the C in FNC stands for Carbine, because it was a shorter and updated version of the FN CAL (which is a lightened and simplified FAL with a new bolt locking system).

[@ichfertigaus2723]

If I recall correctly, the longest possible shot currently should be around 2.8 km. Also, the tape and sling of the AK15 are just a skin.

[@1gcm]

I'm so glad you mentioned the svd damage, all the dmrs need a buff they're so nicely modelled it's a shame no one uses them because they hit like a wet napkin.

[@maceosikes]

They also do not reset to your initial point of aim, the muzzle climb stays so you have to manually drag back down on target instead of just waiting which makes follow up shots a nightmare

[@blameitonnutella2293]

Yeah exactly every dmr is just useless they get over shadowed by the scar and ak12

[@fritzwilhelm1062]

They should buff the rate of fire as well while they are at it. Waiting on the next bullet to ship takes ages. Mb some controll debuffs could come in handy to balance this since "dmrs" might be heavier than the normal infantry rifles...

[@Saint-8]

They use to 2 tap to the body, they got justifiably nerfed but all the other guns stayed incredibly strong

[@olivialambert4124]

This is great. The dev reacting to part 1 was so heartwarming. He really seems to have a ton of passion for the game so the fact that so much had such a good report really surprised him in a positive way.

[@Liam.Lacoste]

I can't wait to watch the dev react pt 2.

[@hokuhikene]

This is odd is this acc a bot or not? I am rlly not sure

[@Wendelvendel]

​@@Liam.Lacostefirst thing I thought when I saw the vid was up!

[@quantumimmortality551]

@@hokuhikene i'm saying bot, or guy larping

[@hokuhikene]

​@@quantumimmortality551who has 1700 subscribers but no content on they acc plus only 3 comments on such a popular channel like GS? Rlly odd^^

[@rdowg]

Kinda crazy that the only real inconsistencies with the real guns come down to balancing

[@GiggleBlizzard]

I really enjoy the parts where Dave is part of the vid and talking to Jonathan, it adds some character to have a bit of dialogue here and there instead of only Jonathans monologue commentary - which I still obviously love, that's what I'm here for!

[@Dunkopf]

Agreed it improves the context

[@oohhboy-funhouse]

Only if Jonathan is lost due to really weird, unique gameplay specific context. John has played more than enough games to not need a lead in. If Dave is interrupting with real gun knowledge or gamer obvious comment (Lowest common denominator shouldn't be randos), that takes away from John. Basically, no co-hosting, which Dave has done well staying out.

[@BalmLabs]

@@oohhboy-funhouse What this guy said, stop fishing for likes, Dave isn't going to give you a place on the channel @dunkopf. Ridiculous. It's so dumb having Dave in

[@davechongle]

@@BalmLabslol.. what? dave guides jonathan through the game. jonathan, while he does play video games, i would trust dave more when it comes to pointing out interesting game mechanics and such. at worst dave doesnt add anything. in no way does he take away from the video, for christsakes, he helps make the videos. whats with the hate for him?

[@cj292]

Another thing to note about the emergency reload is that you can also do it with a full mag and your teammate can actually pick it up if they are using the same weapon. so if neither of you are a class with an ammo pack but someone has spare mags, you can give a mag to them which has actually happened a few times with my friends. Haven't tested if you can do it with weapons that share ammunition and mag types but still a cool detail.

[@TehFrenchy29]

I believe it has been dev-confirmed that picking up dropped magazines only works if the player picking up the magazine uses the exact same weapon as the player who dropped the magazine -- can't pick up M4A1 magazines for your HK416, they have to both be M4s or 416s for it to work. Simplified and "nerfed" compared to real life, and something they may possibly add in the future, but also even more complicated for a game that's surprisingly deep considering the team size and budget.

[@SilentAdventurerNumber02]

Yup, as far as I know you need the exact same guns. Doesn't work with mag that's supposed to be exactly the same.

[@gameknight504]

Dang if it's like that I'm surprised they didn't have like passing a spare mag to your teammate as a feature

[@SilentAdventurerNumber02]

@@gameknight504 well, the current system is already more immersive than most. Maybe in the future they'll implement somekind of standarized mag sharing.

[@MrDarkSidius]

Ramirez! Last mag, make it count!

[@CmdrGamagosk]

Please do more with the devs! They aren't super aware of guns like Jonathan! They also seem very open to learning and would love to see them interact!

[@jakebrown8745]

I really really really liked the conversation segments between Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Jewitt, the group dynamic of both of them discussing visual elements was very entertaining

[@inoob26]

Can't wait for devs react to Jonathan Ferguson reacting to BattleBit Remastered's Guns Part 2 Part 2

[@wile123456]

Vector is already a laser beam in the game. But what makes it unbalanced is that the devs made the mag have 4x more bullets than irl

[@someweeb3650]

Meanwhile every other gun gets less than irl, including the guns whose only advantage is having a big magazine.

[@XenoSpyro]

If the Kriss is the weakest SMG in the game (the original MW2 did this), then it's fine to have a large mag.

[@Nightshade31401]

​​​@@XenoSpyros actually the best SMG in the game and outshoots most other full size weapons. Tarkov levels of broken.

[@kingcaesar3693]

​@@XenoSpyrogonna throw my 2 cents in and also add it's got AR range too. It's kinda broken, and 99% of the player base want it toned down in some aspect.

[@yobson]

@@XenoSpyro it's the most OP weapon in the game

[@ComissarYarrick]

I love this series. I belive I watched all episodes, and they are still just enjoybable as 2 years ago.

[@IrregularDave]

Glad you're still enjoying them! Now go watch them all again 😐

[@ComissarYarrick]

In time due, dave, in time due ;)

[@sandnoodles]

"There's no way to not die when you're shot" not sure why but that made me laugh. Jonathan is a treasure. Also great seeing some of the interactions between you guys, wouldn't mind seeing a little bit of that in each video where appropriate.

[@valence_drive]

I'm outside the whole PvP shooter genre, mostly because I'm more of a PvE guy, but I do like the sense of camaraderie going in with the BattleBit community that I've seen so far. I also appreciate the narrative BattleBit supports that you don't need stellar presentation if your game flow and detail is good enough.

[@gravibusgabe]

If you like PvE I must suggest Deep Rock Galactic.

[@ExecutorArtaris]

i'd like to ask to get Jonathan to talk about the weapons of Deu Ex Human Revollution and Mankind Divided, me mentioned a couple times that he played DE and would be interesting to hear what he thinks about those weapons

[@brodiewilliams8191]

Yeah, it got some really, really interesting ones in it too. Dardick trounds, Helical-feed machine guns with liquid cooling, and what ever on gods green earth that flechette assault rifle is supposed to be.

[@ltdessdu2503]

The C in AK5C doesn't actually stand for Carbine as the name AK in swedish already stants for Automatic Carbine. The C is just a designation for it being the third variant of the AK5.

[@kleinerprinz99]

8:00 As far as I know . Military History (Not) Visualized found documents about the doctrine of the Sturmgewehr and they were supposed to advance in semi-automatic firemode. 30 bullets are gone quite fast in full auto. In Semi Auto this thing can still outfire any old standard bolt action rifle or even the 10 shot american semi automatic one.

[@Klovaneer]

That was extensively covered by FW - germans liked that StG picked up the slack for MGs when they had to move, essentially using it as high volume rifles. It was the russians that went for AK as SMGs doctrinally before they realized it could easily be both and SKS was superfluous.

[@mrpats112]

Love the banter and conversations between Mr. Ferguson and the venerable Dave himself. Would like to see that more for sure.

[@MegadethTillDeth]

Johnathan is just a cheerful, endearing fellow. Never get enough of the man.

[@PsychicBeetle]

I think having someone who plays the game and explain game stuff with Jonathan, is a great idea! Would love to see more of that in the future.

[@zwenkwiel816]

we need a cooling tower expert reacts now

[@TheFirstCurse1]

Please have Dave and a cooling tower expert do Cooling Tower Expert Reacts. That'd be an amazing series.

[@thatextraguy21]

The Kriss Vector in Insurgency:Sandstorm has both the recoil system and the 2-round burst mode implemented. It's still a piece of work to get used to though.

[@harperthegoblin]

Remember when it could have negative recoil?

[@myang245]

Any plans for another Loadout series? Seeing you and Johnathan talk back and forth is awesome to watch.

[@pagancrew]

Another great episode; enjoyed the inclusion of more conversation between you, Dave and Jonathan. would enjoy more of that. Thank you!

[@xGamermonkeyx]

Really good ep as always! I actually really like David's interjections in conversations I think it gives a lot more context to the things Johnathan says in his comments, especially in knowing what has been done or not done in a game's rendition of X Y or Z weapon. And I'm still here saying you've gotta show Johnathan the weapons of the Killzone series! I'd personally say Killzone 1's weapons in particular because I think he'd have an absolute field day with them!

[@hunsbrottv9696]

Nice video with cooling tower expert Jonathan Ferguson!

[@egorpanteleev6804]

Jonathan should see all the thermals in Tarkov, I think he will like both the thermal NVG and all 4 thermal sights tarkov has rn

[@Dr3bb2]

This style of conversation in the video was amazing.

[@atheosxgaming]

4:45 The FPV footage of drones swooping into foxholes, trenches and even APC and tank hatches with C4 strapped to the top of them and detonating says otherwise. Its a weird new world we live in.

[@virtuallyreal5849]

There’s a difference between a mine and an ied.

[@StriderPF]

the legend did it again what a guy

[@suhg4317]

whats up funny red cube guy

[@WolfoftheAurora]

17:00 Maybe another option for the Vector is to add some "screen shake" or "vibration" of sorts when it fire. InRangeTV or Forgotten Weapons (I think) mentioned that full auto Vectors shoot with very little muzzle climb but there's a lot of vibration that causes some disorientation to the user. (I think he mentioned it when comparing full auto between the FAL and G3.

[@Cheesepuff8]

17:40 imagine if Dave and Jonathon and the Devs did a video playing it together

[@kennethnoble6481]

The "Cooling Tower Expert Reacts" thumbnail is freaking hilarious. "Part 14" sent me

[@Typhooon342]

6:45 brother you killed me at range with a honey badger i feel ashamed

[@CrispyGFX]

I loved watching the reaction of the developers of the game to Jonathan's video. Very wholesome.

[@mrpurple2943]

I would love to see more Cooling Tower Expert reacts!

[@StratosMoth]

I think my favorite part of the video is when he got to the Ultimax100, I was wondering what the LMG was behind him, then i saw the next firearm in the line up

[@turtl3h3rm1t]

That Groza is pretty interesting, would love to see a video on that particular model!

[@Far1988]

@Jonathan: The Vector is actually likely chambered in 9mm because the Osprey suppressor that can be attached is the Osprey 9. Unlike the Osprey 45, the 9 model is not compatible with .45, but only 9mm and .300 BLK

[@randompanda876]

i would love to know the story of how those Groza's made their way into his collection.

[@william3791]

you only need 1 explanation . "british museum" that's it.

[@Lattidude]

​@@william3791 The Royal Armouries is not the British Museum

[@william3791]

@@Lattidude its a museum in britain, so it is a british museum. if its in ireland its called irish museum

[@sonspork]

I would absolutely love to see Jonathan have a look at the guns from DayZ, there's some interesting civilian/hunting weaponry

[@Patriiiiick]

11:50 that's one thing I liked about the ARMA series, that you had to equip batteries for your laser designators, though I don't recall that being necessary for thermal sights.

[@TheFacelessStoryMaker]

I'd like to see him do the weapons of Combat Master, Enlisted, and Verdun.

[@filli2429]

i just love jonathan he so friendly and happy❤

[@deejaydragon8909]

Would love to see Jonathan's take on the weapons of Perfect Dark, especially those alternate fire modes!

[@JGabrielRonkainen]

I really enjoyed the interaction between Jonathan and Dave. :)

[@Sarutaru06]

I don't know that anyone else in the Army ever did this with their sling so I might be entirely out to lunch, but I always wrapped the sling on my m16 around my left hand when steadying it to take out any slack, which let the weight of my rifle transfer to my shoulders more. I don't know that it helped with recoil as much as a grip would have, but then I didn't fire it much anyway so that never really mattered.

[@Red-S-267]

That conversation about the drone bomb just… oof. Made me realize how crazy things are that something we did for fun in a video game is now possible and is leading to the deaths of soldiers and civilians. I mean I know predator drones and such have existed for a while but these quad rotor bombs are just terrifying in a completely different way.

[@BallisticTech]

Please get in contact with the BattleBit devs. They reacted to the first video. They seem really open to feedback. I really enjoyed some of the videos you guys did with Jonathan and the Hunt Showdown devs. Perhaps you guys could do something where the Devs visit the Royal Armouries and Jonathan lets them hold, inspect, and work some of the mechanisms of the weapons. Since the game is doing so well maybe they could offer a donation to the Museum. Just a thought. Would love to see more.

[@the_redpyro4906]

I've recently tried SCP 5K and found the weapon system quite interesting. It has press checks and mag checks (one is done when hitting the reload button with full ammunition and the other is done by holding it regardless of ammo count), a low ready button, a large number of sights, an equippable IR laser to go with your night vision (which illuminates specific portions of guard uniforms) and even a revolver capable of switching between single and double action. Also magazines removed early stay in inventory with their specific number of rounds left inside. The devs take into account the rounds used by each weapon and reflect that in stopping power and recoil. A customized MP5 might be fun, but a SCAR 17 hits significantly harder.

[@leedsin3043]

Can’t wait for the dev reaction from this review part 2

[@hestan723]

Just remember that battlebit started as a game aiming for realism before turning into a better battlefield

[@igkinatsu]

A realism mode is plan

[@elijazfrazelsassafraz3100]

Loving the battlebit videos!

[@jowerpac]

Is that an ultimax 100 with it's drum magazine?! Those were a dream to shoot live rounds while blanks made it semi automatic. Spent almost a year carrying that beauty with me almost everywhere.

[@nikolainilssen9404]

You should show him «into the radius», it has very special guns like the AS VAL, VSS and the groza with the granade launcher and many more. It also have realistic cleaning mechanic.

[@william2599]

I held a AK5 yesterday at the army museum in Stockholm, Kinda funny how thats the first weapon i see Jonathan holding.

[@Swangmich]

I'm just happy to see an OTs-14 Groza on video.

[@BPKPhoenix]

idk but its always a joy for me to see the OTs-14 Groza in a game. A strange attraction to the gun, I have.

[@FookFish]

just visited the royal armouries in leeds today and had a blast!

[@CaptCoe1]

Love all the Dave in this one! Keep this level of Dave steady in future videos!

[@IrregularDave]

OH SHUCKS

[@thermionicemission6355]

WOW, I didn't know about such Groza variant, very interesting! I really want to see a giant x20 scope on that mount, lol!

[@Rossen42]

I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886

[@benjamintoro1443]

:)

[@blankityblankblank2321]

The inclusion of David and the talk back and forth is a nice addition to these videos imo.

[@Rozes_xi9]

Added note for not 1 shot headshots is there are helmets in the game, 1 time use per life. The game also has different levels of durability in the armor/helmets as well, based on the classes. Love the level of detail in the design of gameplay.

[@davidd4893]

Even without the recoil system the vector is already an unbalanced laser beam

[@Morgaen_Rei]

7:14 As a matter of fact it's actually how you put the sling around gun when you are moving in laying position - In RAF training you are supposed to hold it with your right hand only in laying position, so you either grab the gab by the end of a sling or wrap it around to only grab the middle section. The latter is more beneficial since there are less chanes that sling will be grabbed or might stuck on a branch or something. Plus I definitely saw people doing it with the organic belt, just because it's no really that adjustable and gets in the way of shooting and moving. So yeah, they aren't supposed to do so, but some situations are demanding that.

[@orionriftclan2727]

Something I have thought about as a BF4 player is that, people in the game sorta prodicted how bombs and drones work well together, take your regular old drone and send it with explosives at a target and you get a good effect for you, or put anti tank explosive on it and have it kamikaze a tank

[@MrLove2shoot]

Love the chat at the 6:00 mark, ''I was crazy once'', ''they put me in a cage full of rats'', ''I will come in your sock''. lol

[@universe7708]

I would pay good money to watch my man host 'Cooling Tower Expert Reacts'

[@Ishmaille]

I would still love to see Jonathan react to the weird guns of Bloodborne. It would give him a chance to bring out some interesting old weapons, I'm sure. The Royale Armories has one of those weird sword-pistol combination weapons, right?

[@wendelinspegel2842]

The AK5 is one of the most beautiful guns in games ever, had me confused alot at start with that name. Love it in Stalker GAMMA

[@otbc1999]

I'd love to see him react to the Thunder Gun from Black Ops 1

[@martinleland3969]

I knew there was gonna be a part 2, cant wait for new guns to drop and they do a part 3

[@The_Glockenator]

It would be entertaining to see Jonathan break down the weapons from metal gear solid 4.

[@ollieduracell]

Jonathan is a legend

[@Regenicss]

Interestingly enough relating the 7.62x54R round to head theres a documentary about the war in Afghanistan a Marine was shot in the helmet by it and he got laid out but it ricocheted out of his helmet and out the padding. Very insane.

[@Eugene13579]

Infrared sensor depicted in Battlebit seems like uncooled microbolometer, which has relatively low resolution and fps IRL than sensors in (commonly known) thermal sights such as products of FLIR.

[@CturiX.IREALLY]

If you guys havent already, i'd love to see the takes on Boundary's guns, considering they're all near-future themed space guns

[@iamReddington]

We need more Dave in these videos! The dynamic between him and Jonathan is GREAT!

[@huunhanle3809]

4:17. I have a feeling that Jonathan will absolutely try this with Dave if he has sparetime for gaming, lol

[@percyj220]

So I know johnathan doesn't really subscribe to the idea of battle rifles, but I think there's a case to be made for the role supported by its obsolescence. The sks and the m14 were both made to fill the role I think, and the concept was only discarded after they discovered that a select-fire rifle at a lower power could fill both roles simultaneously. Maybe that idea is what inspired the experiment of burst fire

[@cjpan4138]

You can actually zero your gun's sights to various ranges, so with the rangefinder you can use the scope to account for drop!

[@stevemc6010]

Can Jon take a look at Boundary? It has a neat mix of real world guns modified for space use, and fictional modular guns.

[@Dene181]

Part 2? NICE love it!

[@Tekdruid]

The real treasure of the Royal Armouries Museum was Jonathan all along.

[@Strait_Raider]

You guys aught to show Jonathan the new updates to SOG: Prairie Fire. CAR-15s, 18 rounds loaded into 20-round magazines to reduce likelihood of jamming the new M16 rifles, sawn-off M79, rifle grenades, Sterling SMG, 1910 Maxims, slam-firing M1897s...

[@Reletr]

Jonathan saying that you could give the Vector a 2 round minimal recoil mode, and just thinking "So you're saying it's gonna become a short AN-94 full of angry bees"

[@HebuTheLoneWolf]

11:02 im pretty sure its like that for balance reasons. so far the snipers seem to be the only ones that drops u on one round to the dome and the marksman rifles would overpower them if they had the power to drop players on one round to the dome

[@bigpuffa]

Great idea to help make the vector more balanced

[@neonhvit]

Would love to see some of the Fallout NV unique guns or even Fallout 76 guns on here

[@IrregularDave]

We've done a couple of Fallout episodes already if you want to check the back catalogue!

[@neonhvit]

@@IrregularDave i know i've seen em, just so many cool guns u guys missed 😭

[@Dragongaga]

I think Jonathan would very much appreciate the ability in this game to use LMGs both for suppression and long range marksmanship. The bipods in this game really do exactly what they're supposed to

[@Eijiken]

Lol I don't think theres ever been an episode where Johnathan in a roundabout way, called for buffs to a gun What a gamer

[@marcellosilva9286]

17th week pushing for a Resistance, Darkwatch or E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy episode.

[@under-chonker]

I would like to see Jonathan reacting to the wacky weapons of Warframe, he should also look at the drones and other robots that the different factions use

[@JoachimElmesioo]

AK means Automat Karbin (Automatic Carbine if that wasn't too hard to figure out) in Swedish. so the C doesn't mean Carbine, just a model designation that happens to be shorter barrel and coincide with carbine.