Firearms Expert Reacts To Escape From Tarkov’s Guns PART 5

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@SnowiestAngeman
@SnowiestAngeman 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that at some point the Tarkov devs will add so much customisation to their guns that you can turn a pistol into Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK
@Crazcosmopwnu
@Crazcosmopwnu 2 жыл бұрын
Or put a nod to him in a Mechanic quest where he says "My friend Jonathan is an avid gun nut and needs x gun for his collection, go find it."
@Ouverture121
@Ouverture121 2 жыл бұрын
It'll be a piece of paper slapped on a gun
@brodiewilliams2993
@brodiewilliams2993 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the same museum that houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history?
@CarmineProspectus
@CarmineProspectus 2 жыл бұрын
Which houses thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
@dillonc7955
@dillonc7955 2 жыл бұрын
Just add him along with Garand Thumb as the traders in that game, simple.
@Woolie
@Woolie 2 жыл бұрын
"It has too much recoil" doesn't even need to play to pinpoint one of the playerbases' largest greivances with the game atm
@Greeev
@Greeev 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the excessive recoil is one of the reasons I've been playing Single Player Tarkov instead of the live game lately.
@welkijken
@welkijken 2 жыл бұрын
The irony is that its done for the sake of realism. Many fans will complain when its set to realistic settings and will bash anyone who says it's too much. I dont think any of these fans have shot a real gun before, let alone a modern service rifle.
@Josh-mk7ok
@Josh-mk7ok 2 жыл бұрын
@@welkijken what’s done for the sake of realism? 556 in tarn has a ridiculous amount of recoil
@kevinfitzpatrick5949
@kevinfitzpatrick5949 2 жыл бұрын
@@welkijken I own 4 AR variants. Can confirm in game recoil is too high.
@Braap420
@Braap420 2 жыл бұрын
@@welkijken The first time I fired a shotgun was at a friends house in a real home defense scenario had barely any clue on how to work the shotty, 10/10 did not kick like the shotguns in eft, and remember I am an untrained civilian under stress in that situation. Not a trained former special operations soldier working for a now disbanded security contract firm. so yeah realism is far from what tarkov is focusing on. (about 780 hs in eft too so I know what im saying.)
@hood18ful
@hood18ful 2 жыл бұрын
yes finally an expert said what all players think in tarkov the guns have too much recoil.
@Kraakesolv
@Kraakesolv 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, experts have said that before, he's not the first. That aside, it's to give mods and skills more usefulness and it won't go away.
@robdun6137
@robdun6137 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i'm tired of people saying it's fine when an MP9 has more Recoil than a 7.62 rifle. Hope they adress it
@Y10HK29
@Y10HK29 2 жыл бұрын
Especially for the 5.56
@Llamanator_
@Llamanator_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@caswesstein It's easy to tell who actively played the game during the 556 meta when you could magdump 60 rounds of 995 at 100m while hitting most of your shots. They could add a new 556 round that has -recoil modifier but worse pen so you'd have to make the tradeoff for armor pen or controllability, much like the current 4.6 and 5.7 rounds.
@christophkogler6220
@christophkogler6220 2 жыл бұрын
@@Llamanator_ That was because they had mods that took recoil down to
@thegraytemplar2548
@thegraytemplar2548 2 жыл бұрын
If you do another Tarkov episode with Jonathan you should show him the giant spreadsheet of the different bullet types and their effectiveness in different situations showing how important bullet types are in Tarkov
@slonismo
@slonismo 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that aspect of Tarkov is wildly exaggerated from real life, actually, so I think he might comment on that
@kenz2756
@kenz2756 2 жыл бұрын
It might be too niche for him. There's all the material of the armor, what the bullets do to the durability, repairibillity of the armor, etcetera.
@DeFens1993
@DeFens1993 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenz2756 the guys job is in that area of expertise, if anything he will find it interesting at the least
@adenkyramud5005
@adenkyramud5005 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeFens1993 exactly. Give the nerd brain nerd things to think about and you will get happy nerd noises. I gotta go find that thing and spend a few hours looking at it now...
@kenz2756
@kenz2756 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeFens1993 His job is curating guns, not sure if armor ballistics is his filed of expertise at all.
@taylorwrigley829
@taylorwrigley829 2 жыл бұрын
“Seems to be a bit to much recoil for a 5.56 weapon platform.” Shots fired Jonathon, shots fired.
@MSRichardson1993
@MSRichardson1993 2 жыл бұрын
but only the first one came close to the target
@TheStiggggg
@TheStiggggg 2 жыл бұрын
The devs clearly have a bias towards Russian calibers.
@temba92
@temba92 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStiggggg or they want the game to be balanced, just like getting hit by 7.62x39 once would most likely make you unable to continue fighting, and i dont think we want that kind of realism in tarkov.
@TALONZYT2
@TALONZYT2 2 жыл бұрын
@@temba92 it's not even the recoil that's the issue the rise isn't that bad it's the "floatiness" of the muzzle it's as if your operator's left arm is asleep and he has to use his right hand entirely to level off the sights.
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStiggggg Nah, 5.45 and 7.62x39 tend to recoil too much in this game as well. I imagine this was done on purpose to sort of balance out the otherwise objectively superior intermediate rifle calibers.
@keatonwastaken
@keatonwastaken 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes Jonathan, all guns in Tarkov have a ridiculous amount of recoil for "balancing" reasons, the realism of the game is great and all but they're really picky about what they portray accurately for whatever reason. Every 5.56 in the game feels like a 7.62, and every 7.62 feels like a .338 semi auto gun, it's crazy to think our characters are supposed to be trained PMC's yet hold guns like they have arms made out of cooked spaghetti.
@Squishrug
@Squishrug 2 жыл бұрын
psst, put the MOE handguard on AK platforms, it changes the handling a ridiculous amount, much more than it actually says, both of them
@keatonwastaken
@keatonwastaken 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Squishrug Ah Tarkov and the absolutely arbitrary recoil system. I actually use it a decent bit because it has the C-Clamp grip when used with no underbarrel attachment.
@vankraken5490
@vankraken5490 2 жыл бұрын
Feel like its a product of them making the the upgrade parts reduce the recoil/increase ergo to a fairly unrealistic degree that they made recoil stupidly high on stock guns to mitigate some of the meta builds being lasers in full auto.
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget how they reload a gun so slowly, like they're out at a firing range (and even people at firing ranges reload faster then the soldiers in tarkov do)
@christophkogler6220
@christophkogler6220 2 жыл бұрын
@@vankraken5490 That feels like a significant part of the problem, yeah. The fully kitted guns have to be basically lasers because tacticool gear has to be useful, so the default guns HAVE to be dogshit. Or something? It really does frustrate when your PMC handles an unmodified M4A1 in single fire like a literal child would. My FIRST time firing a pistol I had more control of the recoil than these 'trained operators'.
@froggo921
@froggo921 2 жыл бұрын
As addressed at around 01:45-02:23, recoil overall in Tarkov is unrealistically strong. A lot of weapons which have low recoil in real life (5.45mm/5.56mm ARs and SMGs) tend to kick very hard. I'm not so sure how accurate the recoil of 7.62mm rifles is tho.
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 2 жыл бұрын
The 762 AK is also recoiling way more than irl
@Kraakesolv
@Kraakesolv 2 жыл бұрын
It's to make the leveling of skills useful, although I'd prefer more realistic recoil over that.
@atsuchiya624
@atsuchiya624 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kraakesolv I think it's mostly used for balancing the meta, but yeah. It has to start out kind of bad so it can improve.
@Kraakesolv
@Kraakesolv 2 жыл бұрын
@@atsuchiya624 I was a bit quick but I agree with you. I'd use the word gameplay next time!
@alecrochon3531
@alecrochon3531 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a way of balancing the game i guess?
@7evYT
@7evYT 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, he doesn't even play Tarkov, but he can still recognize the recoil being scuffed. Good man.
@Oritaku1
@Oritaku1 2 жыл бұрын
Petition to have Jonathan made into a NPC in EFT who comments on your loadout when you interact with him
@guanocrazy6802
@guanocrazy6802 2 жыл бұрын
or use his likeness for mechanic?
@deezboyeed6764
@deezboyeed6764 2 жыл бұрын
@@guanocrazy6802 this
@Tigermoto
@Tigermoto 2 ай бұрын
Jonathan and Zach Hazard
@Darlexis
@Darlexis 2 жыл бұрын
I love how everyone in Tarkov basically says the recoil is too high and you notice that immediately.
@mylespenney1898
@mylespenney1898 2 жыл бұрын
It would be fun to watch Johnathan actually play tarkov
@MrMattThor
@MrMattThor 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing him mess around in the gunsmith or the single player mod would also be interesting
@DriszanderHoul
@DriszanderHoul Жыл бұрын
@@MrMattThor Single player mod is not official thing from BSG so that not possible
@wishmaster98
@wishmaster98 2 жыл бұрын
i love how the first thing he mentions about how a guns act is the recoil and every tarkov player is like "WE KNOW!!!"
@trenhex
@trenhex 2 жыл бұрын
"The recoil seems a little too high" if only you knew Jonathan, if only you knew.
@flubber8795
@flubber8795 8 ай бұрын
Jonathan needs to see this game again with the new recoil
@SpoonsYT
@SpoonsYT 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad Jonathan was very easily able to see how awful the recoil in tarkov is. Like another comment has already said, it's as though these "trained PMCs" have cooked noodles for arms with how much they're allowing the rear to rise when firing.
@aaronsmith4940
@aaronsmith4940 2 жыл бұрын
How does it feel to be single handedly keeping this channel alive?
@zingy1811
@zingy1811 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan for mentioning the ridiculous recoil of intermediate calibers such as the 5.56
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 2 жыл бұрын
Its a balancing act on the devs part.
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee 11 ай бұрын
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Indeed. I think people forget the good ol days of laser M4s/HK416s that had virtually no recoil whatsoever.
@blackm4niac
@blackm4niac 2 жыл бұрын
The G28 comes as depicted in the game. That is the "Base model" of that gun if you will. Of course you can take off all those bits and put your own stuff on it, but when you find it in game or buy it from a trader, this configuration is what you'll be getting.
@ДмитрийБычков-ъ1ч
@ДмитрийБычков-ъ1ч 2 жыл бұрын
quite a usable config. You can swap the handles and it'll woks just fine for woods or lighthouse. Optics of this rifle, by itself, is a magnificient combo.
@skush9146
@skush9146 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always so happy when I see Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK in my KZbin subscription feed
@JamesOfKS
@JamesOfKS 10 ай бұрын
5:18 you can 'quick reload' the cylinder with double tapping R. The slow reload is so you can only pull out the expended casings and preserve ammo.
@Bobgriffon
@Bobgriffon 2 жыл бұрын
The recoil is one thing I'll never get about Tarkov. For a game that embraces and clearly cares about realism in so many other facets, they really dropped the ball on the recoil mechanics. As it is now, you are punished for using semi-auto, and are rewarded for just going full auto all the time. It unfortunately makes all the cool semi-auto guns they add basically useless at late game pvp, and ensures its just AR's with the biggest mags you can fit.
@y0h0p38
@y0h0p38 2 жыл бұрын
They just changed it because so many peple cried about pre 12.12 recoil where M4s and HKs were meta because you could beam people from 100+ meters on full auto. Pretty much the recoil right now is like your PMC doesn't control recoil at all, while pre-12.12 was your PMC controling most of the recoil. Its a weird mix of almost like CS:GO where the character doesn't control recoil at all, and like CoD where the character controls a lot of the recoil
@nade7242
@nade7242 2 жыл бұрын
it used to be more accurate, but then everything was a laser beam and people complained dunno what you're talking about with the semi auto though, most semi auto guns are great for recoil, like the sr25 and m1a, that's why they removed them from the flea recently burst is the problem, since they still have the initial burst of recoil from fully automatic it makes burst fire absolutely useless I'd also expect pretty much all recoil values to be changed on full release as they did mention that they'll be rebalancing EVERYTHING
@Bobgriffon
@Bobgriffon 2 жыл бұрын
@@nade7242 I'm just talking about like you said, that initial burst of recoil that you get on every first shot of semi, so its more accurate to just ride the recoil of full auto after that first kick. Glad to hear that the semi guns are still useful though, its been a few wipes since I last played.
@nade7242
@nade7242 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bobgriffon oh you meant semi on full auto guns, yeah, it's still mostly like that
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla 2 жыл бұрын
@@nade7242 To be fair, burst fire has been steadily going away from modern firearms because it’s not that useful in real life. It existed solely as a training crutch because they couldn’t train soldiers not to control their shots in full auto.
@MajimaCop
@MajimaCop 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite series on KZbin, keep doing tarkov! Much love
@tryharderpls
@tryharderpls 2 жыл бұрын
1:45 this has been my complaint with tarkov for a long time, i have shot 556 and i felt like i can control it better than the pmc in game, and now i have a testimony from the man himself, ive had so many people tell me "oh u must have never shot a real 556 before if u think tarkov has too much recoil"
@DMTEntity88
@DMTEntity88 20 күн бұрын
It’s honestly ridiculous
@stellle_
@stellle_ 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Jonathan check out Titanfall 2 as a kind of sequel to the Apex video. It's got odd sci-fi guns, energy weapons, and huge robots with just as huge weapons. Jonathan is the keeper of artillery too, after all.
@assburgers9953
@assburgers9953 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that in the latest TarkovTV, what the creators of tarkov calls the streams that they use to let people in on what they're working on, the game director said that they are gonna do a large overhaul and rebalance of all the recoil, at least before 1.0, it's just hard to do that for everything when they're still in the process of adding more things. The game isn't done and it just isn't the highest priority currently, considering that they would have to do it again later
@seanwallcroft6272
@seanwallcroft6272 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue recoil in an FPS is definitely one of the most important aspects of the game, and the fact they still haven’t addressed it is mind boggling
@jibberjabberstepback612
@jibberjabberstepback612 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanwallcroft6272 ''the fact they still haven’t addressed it is mind boggling'' one could say this about 200 other issues when it comes to Tarkov, and therein lies the problem.
@avengedsevenfold998
@avengedsevenfold998 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanwallcroft6272 the joys of a small indie developers.
@seanwallcroft6272
@seanwallcroft6272 2 жыл бұрын
@@jibberjabberstepback612 well, I would understand fixing audio and such, that’s tricky, but ffs, recoil is literally about tweaking values and some testing, you don’t have to rebuild an engine for that
@galacticupfan7386
@galacticupfan7386 2 жыл бұрын
@@avengedsevenfold998 they are not small at all, and recoil is such an easy fix it’s not like they need a publisher to find them. It’s literally just messing around with values
@khaos298
@khaos298 7 ай бұрын
Coming back after a year and the ADAR review is spot on with how the recoil system is now.
@otopugpug
@otopugpug 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan is correct, currentl patch tarkov has absurdly high recoil for the first 1-5 shots of each burst, and then basically no recoil for the rest of the magazine. Everyone is complaining for the devs to change it.
@ogirkutsk
@ogirkutsk 2 жыл бұрын
14:32 it’s a player change, the stock scar-l comes with an fde or black a2 pistol grip depending on the colour.
@PitFriend1
@PitFriend1 2 жыл бұрын
There are still two reasons to use a revolver over a magazine fed pistol. Revolvers still work better or are easier to handle with large caliber rounds as they don’t have to worry about moving slides and such being big enough to eject the large rounds, particularly rimmed ones. Revolvers also are very difficult to jam, which may be a factor in a scenario like that game.
@dlk339
@dlk339 2 жыл бұрын
So on the subject of Tarkov Recoil. There's two types: Visual and Actual recoil based on what your FOV is set at. Presumably to encourage people not to just crank fov because additional vision is an advantage. If you play at 63 fov it should be a more authentic experience. Cheers.
@Kralledd
@Kralledd 2 жыл бұрын
If thats the case i think thats kinda awful. A FOV of anything under 80 makes me personally quite dizzy and i usually play my games at 90 or 95, being punished for playing on settings that dont make me physically sick is quite unreasonable :/ (not to mention you are already at a disadvantage for doing long distance shots at high fov but gain more spatial awarenes, it already has its pros and cons, so why add more)
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kralledd Tarkov uses horizontal rather than most games vertical. So 75 fov is more like 105
@GrippeeTV
@GrippeeTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kralledd because it gives you a gameplay advantage. The game isn’t personally tailored to people with motion sickness; just because it affects you, doesn’t mean it should be balanced around that. More often than not people crank the FoV to be able to see more around them, not to avoid sickness.
@AsapCodeine
@AsapCodeine 2 жыл бұрын
Even someone who does not play the game can easily spot the worst problem plaguing it at the moment. The recoil on most guns is atrociously high, especially when you consider the games main focus is realism. Why does a 5.56 semi auto rifle have the recoil of a .308 battle rifle? Its the main reason that stopped me from playing the game
@Darkendvoid
@Darkendvoid 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you guys keep coming back to Tarkov, one of my favorite games and this is one of my favorite youtube series.
@fuufuu1080
@fuufuu1080 2 жыл бұрын
2 videos on tarkov in 1 month? COOL! I hope you are able to get SPT AKI and setup an account for him on it. It would be so entertaining to watch him build guns in his little hideout.
@delldavinci
@delldavinci 2 жыл бұрын
Tarkov reviews are the absolute gem of this series. Wouldn't love much more to come in the future.
@sabre013
@sabre013 2 жыл бұрын
The recoil in Tarkov has been messed up for a while. It has been raised significantly because people complained about meta loadouts basically being flat. If I remember correctly they plan to rebalance it.
@brylythhighlights4335
@brylythhighlights4335 7 ай бұрын
There was a bit too much recoil on everything in the game until just recently - they had guns pivoting at the pistol grip instead of the stock.
@janpesek4862
@janpesek4862 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome series and I'm always overjoyed when new episode, especially Tarkov one, drops. Keep up the good work!
@stormshadow5382
@stormshadow5382 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Jonathan check out Generation Zero guns, since they are like Swedish variants of some iconic weapons. You can also have him react to the DLC weapons from generation zero, since those include Russian, American, and some other gun versions too.
@SaulTink
@SaulTink 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Same with their other game, Second Extinction. Not exactly real weapons, but they would definitely be based on real ones! (plus artillery!)
@tapirlover1005
@tapirlover1005 2 жыл бұрын
There are western guns in Tarkov because one of the main factions is western PMCs from USEC! So spot on on noticing that it was specifically a western variant.
@thechaoscraftcamtcc3770
@thechaoscraftcamtcc3770 3 ай бұрын
Aw... I was hoping to see the player torture poor Jonathan more like Episode 3. It's both amusing to see his reactions to these 'cursed' weapon builds but also very nice and informative to see and hear his honest commentary and analysis of just how these odd, cursed guns would work in real life.
@enb3810
@enb3810 2 жыл бұрын
Also the suppressors and guns heating too quickly is also an issue. 1-2 mags of full auto with an M16 variant and your gun starts to experience stoppages.
@izaacthebeatchef
@izaacthebeatchef 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see Jonathan let it rip in the Tarkov Gunsmith, like show him the market, traders + most importantly different parts/how to build guns and see what he makes! Dave could always test them out in the game afterwards and show Jonathan how he did :)
@ironsevs
@ironsevs 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the 556 situation was mentioned
@BloodDraco122
@BloodDraco122 2 жыл бұрын
Just when you think he ain't done with Tarkov, there's MOAR!
@Caannnnoonn
@Caannnnoonn 2 жыл бұрын
In Tarkov, there's a merchant who goes by "Peacekeeper" and he's an arms dealer for the UN who's set up on the border on the conflict zone. He can get his hand on basically any western weapon. This is a huge simplification, but it's a quick explanation to how the PMCs are getting these Gucci guns.
@mikeemous1410
@mikeemous1410 7 ай бұрын
I hope by part 6 they explain to Jonathan some of the lore abt the contract wars and pmcs in the near future environment and thus explains the presence of new weapons ie sig spear they just added
@wubnoxious
@wubnoxious 2 жыл бұрын
even without playing Johnathon can recognize the recoil is super exaggerated lol
@soanti
@soanti 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is the only reason i even follow this channel tbh, love it =)
@CBananaW
@CBananaW 2 жыл бұрын
Just a bit of tarkov lore explanation for those wondering. The reason there is such an interesting variety of weapons and equipment available in tarkov is that people are shipping it in to keep the conflict going. The chaos in tarkov and the sensitive nature of the information and technology left behind during the evacuation means there is a lot of money to be made in shady dealings, so there's a lot of fingers in the pie. The traders have access to outside channels to get gear and stuff so they can get you all kinds of new fangled tacticry. One of the traders is literally a dude from the U.N. who sells lots of western style kit.
@soup7694
@soup7694 2 жыл бұрын
i would love it if yall do another episode, that you show a cursed gun made by BNBaku i belive on YT. it's basically a shotgun with the max amount of rails or hexagon scope fitters or something, (as you can see i don't really have a lot of Tarakov knowledge) and you place a flashlight on every individual one of them and then a scope at the top essentially making you see like 6m into the sky and making the enemy blind in the process :)
@semitrock4214
@semitrock4214 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: One of the M4 handguards that is manufactured by colt actually has in game the real number you can call .
@instantnoodles2678
@instantnoodles2678 2 жыл бұрын
New streamer items, Jonathon's blue gloves or the emotional support stg-44
@haste953
@haste953 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with tarkov is that you have skills that you have to level up like Assault Rifles and Recoil Control which both give you better handling of any assault rifle. In real life anyone could hold an AR 15 or any 556 based weapon and hold it steadier than we see in the videos but once you level up those skills it's very realistic and guns behave just like they do IRL, for full auto you see like an initial kick then with your strength you can make it steady.
@jwarden
@jwarden 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that you guys are on part 5 of Tarkov when H3VR has over 400 guns in it that are all masterfully created and faithfully reproduced. From modern to musket. I am pretty much over this series because of stuff like that.
@channelname5477
@channelname5477 2 жыл бұрын
never heard of it
@Talkren
@Talkren 2 жыл бұрын
@@channelname5477 H3VR = hotdogs, horseshoes, and handgrenades VR. It's a vr game that has hundreds of gun and well know for its accuracy in reproducing them.
@MrSadisty
@MrSadisty 2 жыл бұрын
MORE TARKOV, thanks Johnathan for the video, always a pleasure
@charmisyoung
@charmisyoung 2 жыл бұрын
“There seems to be a bit too much recoil going on” Oh you have no idea
@MrGutty117
@MrGutty117 2 жыл бұрын
Huge fan of Jonathan and these videos. I always come away learning something new from each one. Would love to see you guys take a look at Red Orchestra 2's guns. It's the WWII predecessor to Rising Storm 2, and I'd love to hear Jonathan's thoughts on the weapons Tripwire put so much time and effort into.
@kinotsu3017
@kinotsu3017 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan, really love all the insight on how all of these guns could/should/do work. Appreciate you taking your time to make these videos for us!
@smug880
@smug880 2 жыл бұрын
it would be really cool to see a part 2 for hunt showdown's guns
@heibk-2019
@heibk-2019 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they really didnt show many of the really cool models in the first video
@Noobyara1337
@Noobyara1337 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, all Tarkov guns have excessive amount of recoil, for " "gaming" " reasons apparently...
@Etho_7
@Etho_7 2 жыл бұрын
What makes you say that? I'd say it isn't too far off if you actually take into account secondary factors like fatigue, gear weight and adrenalin. It's not like shooting at a range in perfect conditions. Which guns recoil too much in your opinion, I know the AR's are a little excessive stock but the meta builds are effectively lasers.
@justsomeplantcells-
@justsomeplantcells- 2 жыл бұрын
Poor chiappa rhino got a load of recoil even though the gun is designed to have low muzzle rise
@Tom-ol5zz
@Tom-ol5zz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Etho_7 it is definitely far off. if you watch any gun enthusiast youtuber shooting their ar15, the gun doesn’t even move while mag dumping. your head might shake like crazy but it wont aim 15m in the air after 2 bullets. tarkov is an art for gun lovers, but doesn’t reproduce the most important part which is the real handle of the gun
@Scrap_Goblin
@Scrap_Goblin 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-ol5zz I suppose it would be accurate if the ya know trained mercenaries fighting in the game are 100 pound toothpicks who've never used a gun
@y0h0p38
@y0h0p38 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Etho_7 It is def way too much. Its like your PMC isn't controling recoil, you have to, but after a couple shots the PMC starts controling recoil.
@JokerChany
@JokerChany 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should really tell him that the un is heavily involved in this game plus bear and usec are both private military contractors with access to an absurd amount of arms dealers
@kim98677
@kim98677 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh that thumbnail is hella criminal 🤣🤣 Dudes just standing there smiling with a decked out handgun and surgical gloves looking like he's the hitman and disposal guy all in one 2 for 1 package 😂
@Dragongaga
@Dragongaga Жыл бұрын
DayZ actually has the feature to operate a gun based on what kind of parts you can find for it. If you find a fun as a random spawn, there's a chance it doesn't have a magazine and you have to manually load each round
@BlackKnigth323
@BlackKnigth323 2 жыл бұрын
At this point Jonathan should always have on his lap his emotional support STG because at least once per video he needs it
@Killerpixel11
@Killerpixel11 2 жыл бұрын
They turned the recoil (for everything) to 11 to try and combat the ridiculous run-and-gun, spray&pray playstyle. The AR-15 used to be much more authentic.
@lyylski
@lyylski 2 жыл бұрын
You should do Verdun, Tannenberg & Isonzo (which is coming out pretty soon). They have some pretty good WW1 representation.
@djarbeebo6023
@djarbeebo6023 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely!!
@GenericFiredemon
@GenericFiredemon 2 жыл бұрын
"bit too much recoil on the automatic rifles" Oh Jon, you don't even know the half of it.
@Marshman220
@Marshman220 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, even John sees tarkovs recoil problem.
@deevee5327
@deevee5327 2 жыл бұрын
Even Jonathan, who's never played the game in his life, knows the AR15s have way too much recoil. Please, devs, this is my poorly disguised cry for help.
@blakemoreno776
@blakemoreno776 2 жыл бұрын
When a Dragunov and an M16 love each other very much…
@Kokaiinikarhuu
@Kokaiinikarhuu 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the over analyzing of the weapons and the possible availability of them in this type of region!
@leptyga
@leptyga Жыл бұрын
Should do an episode dedicated to the different AK models within the game!
@the_jones528
@the_jones528 Жыл бұрын
1:55 I'm not the only one anymore; even a GUN EXPERT thinks that the recoil is too much. They need to bring it back down to how it was before; I was starting to have fun with this game.
@AstolfoCh
@AstolfoCh Жыл бұрын
At 10:10 when Jonathan points out that it's odd that a Rifle Dynamics variant of the AK is present in Eastern Europe... It's actually not, well in the game that is. It fits very nicely with the lore and in-game storytelling. With a whole lot of shady happenings and dealers with diverse connections, it wouldn't come to a big surprise to see such weaponry featured in Tarkov.
@salvagedude625
@salvagedude625 2 жыл бұрын
i think i speak for a lot of us when i say that I'd love to see Jonathan play tarkov
@totallynottoaster1114
@totallynottoaster1114 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to the mention if the Rifle Dynamics AK at 10:23, there is a trader named Peacekeeper who will sell you UN/Western issued weapons, most others in the game aside for therapist will sell you Russian/Eastern weapons one being Mechanic a trader who will sell customized versions of weapons, he actually sells the RD-704 at his highest level
@__8120
@__8120 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see him take a look at some guns from synthetik. It also has a jam system, with the quite unique reload mechanics, as well as some very interesting weapons
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a SCAR L in my lap, as you do. Hilarious.
@yuri_andropov6973
@yuri_andropov6973 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the rare series that I watch all of especially one the updates so frequently and it’s so different to what I normally watch
@jester4323
@jester4323 2 жыл бұрын
“Set in present day, or the near future at least” *glances at in-game Tarkov 2016 calendar”
@WubzyPenguin
@WubzyPenguin 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get a livestream or a video of Jonathan playing or just using guns in tarkov? Would be so much fun.
@SlavicGold
@SlavicGold 2 жыл бұрын
estimating range is not too bad in Tarkov, Once you have some gauge of 100m its easy to then multiply that for distance appraisal or sighting your scope can use landmarks or player model size as well
@TommiSRP
@TommiSRP 2 жыл бұрын
The headquarters of Battlestate Games is located in London. Im sure you could get a good video out of Jonathan visiting the HQ and chatting to the devs about modeling guns and creating mechanics for them in the game.
@opaak
@opaak 2 жыл бұрын
The studio is in saint petersburg the london hq is just a cold office
@Neo1232123
@Neo1232123 5 ай бұрын
Another Episode of Tarkov guns woud be very nice :) Still some interesting guns left (PKM/P, Spear, SR25/RSASS, AK12, S/AVT, Kedr, STM)
@gendoslice5971
@gendoslice5971 2 жыл бұрын
he should look into the lore of tarkov, which guns are present is pretty irrellevant in this fictional future, but I love his knowledge.
@nots1mple306
@nots1mple306 2 жыл бұрын
This is Johnatan Ferguson, the reason why our channel is still alive
@zacksurratt8088
@zacksurratt8088 8 ай бұрын
Now that they changed the recoil I’d like a redo
@TheEightfoldPath_
@TheEightfoldPath_ Жыл бұрын
The only argument I can see for a revolver is reliability, mechanically I don't see any more reliable firearm than maybe a well machined/forged slamfire shotgun. I don't think I've ever seen a revolver malfunction in the "normal" way, as in, shells not ejecting on a pistol causing a jam etc. Grime and dirt would impact a revolver far less I would think as well.
@hummel6364
@hummel6364 Жыл бұрын
Which is why revolvers are commonly used as a kind of self-defense/survival weapon for hiking trips, in rough climates like the arctic, and of course a backup for large game hunting. Basically anywhere where you aren't really concerned about using it all the time, but when you need it it ABSOLUTELY has to work flawlessly. That's also why some people carry revolvers over automatic pistols in day to day life.
@insertname3977
@insertname3977 Жыл бұрын
​@@hummel6364Also in those situations where you're bringing a backup, it's going to be in a larger calibre than the usual handgun lot, which fits more comfortably in your hand as a revolver than as one of the few magnum handguns.
@stevbe1723
@stevbe1723 2 жыл бұрын
Once more, I'm requesting an episode on Titanfall (2). I know he looked at Apex already, but Titanfall still has more weapons (plus all the titan weapons)
@stellle_
@stellle_ 2 жыл бұрын
It could be a kind of sequel to the Apex video. I'd love to see him break down the designs of some of the the odd weapons like the SMR or the Alternator.
@BoltonGaming
@BoltonGaming 9 ай бұрын
wait until the next wipe when they add the sig spear all the as val variants and the rpd
@TheElegantEpitome
@TheElegantEpitome 2 жыл бұрын
Even Jonathan can see there's too much recoil on 5.56 and he doesn't even play the game! Been an ongoing issue in the community since their December update
@Thunderking01
@Thunderking01 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see more Hunt: showdown videos. I know they did the 1 but there are alot more weapons to touch on.
@cam2786
@cam2786 2 жыл бұрын
In this video a man who doesn't even play tarkov can tell us exactly what is wrong with the recoil in tarkov, yet somehow the devs struggle with that.
@rautamiekka
@rautamiekka 2 жыл бұрын
If all the other commenters are right, they had to jack up the recoil for balance. If they wouldn't, they might as well drop most of the guns and customization options cuz there would be 0 point in many other guns due to inferiority.
@Reniu87
@Reniu87 2 жыл бұрын
I love these series! that guy is spot on for a host! Shoutout to Jonathan! - i admire your knowledge sir!
@iignoremywife4this869
@iignoremywife4this869 2 жыл бұрын
Tarkov is my favorite game and I love when you do these videos man!
@jacobl6714
@jacobl6714 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh man I friggin love a Scar : ) Former navy seal "Coch" has an awesome youtube channel tactical hyve I believe, and on it he has a video where he talks about being involved with the development, and that for example the scar being able to have its grips changed for any that fit on a regular ar15 was his idea. Great stuff Also thank you so much for having more "normal" weapons this time lol I mean the crazy glock and the revolver shotgun thing are neat, but they're not weapons a lot of us are super interested in? Could be wrong. Plus I love that this channel helps get some of our fellow nerds into firearms, teaches them more about them, and maybe makes them seem less "scary" or intimidating. They're just cool objects : )
@bradfin12
@bradfin12 2 жыл бұрын
in the game the scar comes with the standard ar-15 pistol grip and the magpull grip is an upgrade
@jasonofa3633
@jasonofa3633 2 жыл бұрын
Tarkov actually had realistic recoil in its early days, but BSG had to change it so mods and skills made sense in the game. Back then, it's hard to differentiate a stock M4's recoil to a fully-modded M4.
@wireless-winter6186
@wireless-winter6186 2 жыл бұрын
0:59 finna take out Cesar’s legion with this 💪
@TheFirstCurse1
@TheFirstCurse1 Жыл бұрын
Holy bejeezers! Is that Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Arms Museum in the UK???
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