Firearms Expert Reacts to Payday 3’s Guns

[@DrBluefire59]

im happy to see that they finally gave jonathan a new cage at the museum. poor guy has been locked in the old one for so long

[@GG_MYDAWG]

Yes

[@TheSundayShooter]

Looks like Jonathan is at the indoor shooting range where all the live fire footage gets recorded

[@kayagorzan]

They gave him a new camera, so a new room makes sense

[@terry7907]

But the old one had such atmosphere…plus fabulous decorations.

[@michalsniadala1667]

personally think he locked himself in em if anything

[@catrionasloanei6847]

The reason it adds to the pool is from a skill that causes it to feed directly into the magazine instead of the reserve. It doesn't happen normally.

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

Aaaah, interesting. Thanks. Still silly though 😊

[@saltkeeper44]

@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Yeah, it's silly. But it is very funny using that perk with a shotgun

[@ballchungus1900]

​@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouriestry using that skill with a double barreled shotgun and you've pretty much got a ten round semi automatic shotgun

[@luthfihar3211]

@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries it's what makes payday quirky, the game's basically an RPG with guns set in a heist movie

[@sgt.squirtle2528]

​@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Payday has always had a silly side to it. One of the reasons it's so charming IMO.

[@Slip-SpaceNinja]

As Jonathan is the keeper of firearms AND artillery I think it would be cool to see him react to armored core weapons, since its basically a mix of firearms and artillery just from the size of the mechs.

[@knrz2562]

Wo0w

[@jp969]

The titan weapons of Titanfall 1 and 2 would be cool too

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

3:00 This is an effect of one of the skills you can unlock. Ammo drops feed the magazine unless its full, in which case it goes into your reserves as usual.

[@Stickeebud]

I would've thought that Jonathan would be provided with some sort of context at this point. Not for everything, just for things like this.

[@shying69]

Also this only works when you have edge

[@TheSultan1470]

​@@Stickeebud I mean, one could also expect Jonathan would use some sense of his own, considering his relative young age and experience with video games and Payday's overall "urban fantasy" setting.

[@aviatornic2839]

I imagine when Jonathan does one of these videos he gets to go around picking out guns from the collection like a kid in a candy store. Sounds super fun honestly

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

I donno. I would rather be here in America. I bet he never gets to shoot any of these.

[@cheezkid2689]

​@@thelittledetailscr7231 cry about it

[@J1mston]

@@thelittledetailscr7231They do have an indoor range (I think it's that room he filmed in) but I imagine that that shooting opportunities aren't "as and when" like the Americans have. That being said, his selection is greater than probably all Americans and there will be a few full autos in the collection that he can use.

[@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg]

​@thelittledetailscr7231 you haven't been around for very long, huh? He does get to test fire weapons, quite regularly too. America isnt the only country that allows civilians to use firearms.

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg Civilans are not allowed any centerfire semi-auto's where he lives. It's only because he works there that he even gets to be around them.

[@aemaramathews272]

Bit of a weird one, but it would be cool to see Jonathan react to the guns in the Assassin's Creed franchise. Between the hidden gun from AC2, Cesare's gun from Brotherhood, the 18th century guns in AC3, Black Flag, and Rogue, the Napoleonic era guns in Unity, and the revolvers from Syndicate, there's a number of really interesting things from a huge range of history that he could talk about. Edit: And I even forgot to mention the artillery cannons in the beginning of Brotherhood, all the cannons in 3, Black Flag, and Rogue, and the Greek Fire from Revelations! Not to mention the Da Vinci weapons from brotherhood, like the machine gun. There are so many really interesting options to talk about from that series.

[@TheSundayShooter]

Jonathan knows about 1:57 allure surrounding the auto sear pin, which is a standard (unremarkable) feature of AR-15's in the Royal Armouries collection

[@mikaris_]

At 9:39 you can see that they modelled the used shells' primers being impacted by the firing pin, thought that was pretty cool

[@Tyberes]

It's always fun when you see a game's "realistic" weapons. You just pop up the AK47 and see what it's called. If it's anything else you get to play the little game of "alright how legally distinct are we going to be"

[@Tyberes]

You know, on second thought. I'm not entirely sure it's fair to judge the game about bank robbers for not being able to secure firearm licenses.

[@screamingcactus1753]

@@Tyberes There are definitely firearms in there that you don't need a license to name given how old they are, but at that point you might as well give all of them fictional names just to maintain thematic consistency

[@aaronl1998]

I'm happy to see Jonathon is able to get into the servers

[@shnorbles]

It's not a typical shooter but I'd love for him to look at the guns from SIGNALIS. They're really interesting designs with clear real world parallels but still unique and cool

[@theshadow3438]

I love Signalis

[@Gigglingrodent]

I heart signalis

[@pavelsvacha]

Oh i would LOVE that. The guns there are very nice

[@burningthunder8048]

Saaame I love the weapons in signalis

[@daviddarby2888]

A lot of the guns in signalis are actually really similar to real life counterparts which is pretty cool. If i remember correctly, the Rhino or what is called the Sforza Bison in payday 3 is actually the revolver from signalis.

[@_mailer]

I hope you'll revisit Payday 3 when new weapons come out, or even revisit the many guns left in Payday 2. I think that gun collection holds up very well too.

[@PhillyThug]

Some weapons from Payday 3 were missed out here too. More content to cover alongside DLC entries

[@fire_tower]

Payday 2 has at least 4 more videos worth of content in it.

[@darkwolf9637]

8:58 this actually does come into play ingame. Killings civilians cost you money in "cleaner cost" and makes the cops come after you harder with longer and more difficult assault waves, also during the art heist its mentioned that the paintings are very fragile but since I didn't try i don't know if that actually effects gameplay or if just for flavor.

[@MrZeubiLaMouche]

On the art gallery heist you can destroy the paintings that require the USB key to deactivate the security on the blood tainted paintings. I've seen one go up in flames but thankfully it was one of the fakes

[@itsRigatonii]

It’s really funny too because when people first got a hold of the gun in the beta, there were lots of people who were downing themselves because of the large radius lol

[@Riggs_The_Roadie]

It'd be neat if Jonathan reacted to the guns from Black Ops 2, seeing as we're a little over a year away from the events of that game taking place.

[@gingercheesecake7357]

😎

[@CErra310]

Do you really want to inflict that on this poor sod after he nearly lost his mind from Vanguard

[@luthfihar3211]

the weird regenerating ammo is an effect from the in game perk i believe, it's a buff that if the required action was done the effect will activate, payday is more of an RPG than a tactical shooter, which makes it fun and unique

[@CentreMetre]

Yes, specifically ammo funnel skill and you need edge to be able to have it happen

[@0Asterite0]

a couple dozen or so M32's got sold as surplus to civilians a couple years ago. You just needed to fill out a form 4 transfer form for a destructive device and wait for the tax stamp. Now getting the projectiles for it is another whole ordeal.

[@LemarSullivan821]

11:00 "that's your ultimate small size package" Y'know it, pal (smiley face with tear drop)

[@brianzimmerman4837]

The attention to detail on that 870 also extended to seeing light in the barrel as you rack it, but not to the chamber and bore being painted pink as well.

[@StinkleDink]

Watching this while waiting to get into a heist. Might need to replay a few times.

[@michaelanderson6394]

One of these days, we will get a Valkyria Chronicles video. One day.

[@CDCI3]

13:06 kind of surprising to see the pink inside the chamber and barrel, not sure I'd want that kind of thing inside my gun.

[@excrubulent]

Also since he's talking about wear patterns there, you'd imagine that even if someone could paint the inside of the barrel, it wouldn't last more than a couple of shots till it was stripped away or blackened by the combustion. Even the inside of the chamber where it's protected by the shells would get a lot of wear just from them going in and out, plus the heat.

[@rdove_]

but it's so pretty :3

[@Squabzat2]

Jonathan is the only guy who can still look friendly with a gun in his hands

[@JoJoRogain]

Has he always had blue latex gloves, or is he dressing up as payday gang gang for us

[@johannkwanlaw]

Hi, M14 guy here. Re: the M14 bolt hold open, in stock configuration it only operates to hold the bolt open, it is almost impossible to operate with your thumb or with a slap as it is a tiny bit of metal with no way for the user to get leverage on it. The MagWedge or similar aftermarket replacements for that part gives you a paddle that can definitely be slapped or operated with your thumb. I cant get in close enough on my phone to see if such a device has been installed in the footage.

[@WolfRichter337]

Jonathan, the only man i know that can marvel for minutes at the realistic wear patterns of a digital pink pumpgun while missing that they painted the inside of the barrel as well.

[@Rossen42]

I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886

[@infernaldaedra]

Model 1886, lol

[@callanhulett503]

Come on Gamespot, this guy is a featured part of this series at this point. Give him the breakdown he wants.

[@iandragooo]

@@callanhulett503 At this point, I'm betting Gamespot is planning on stringing that guy along until the end of the series lol Or maybe the final episode will be about The Order 1886, would be even better I think

[@Snippyyy]

he forgot about my favorite weapon "nebula server not found"

[@masterSageHarpuia]

It sounds like for just the sake of making video game firearms realistically depicted, there needs to be an online museum that allows modelers to see everything important and distinct about the weapons they want to use.

[@SaltSpirits]

the surprising part is that anyone was able to get online AND stay online long enough to record footage of each the weapons. must’ve been quite the task!

[@TugaAvenger]

A question for Dave: are F2P games viable for this series? Some of keep asking for Warframe, but some of the most interesting weapons would take dozens of hours to get. Do you need your own account for everything, or can you borrow one if need be?

[@CallanElliott]

I don't see why F2P would technically be off limits, game studios would just give him a press account. The question is more convincing people higher up the chain that it would be worth it.

[@Franshela]

He looked at tf2

[@pavelsvacha]

I saw another comment saying this and i wholeheartedly agree, it would be awesome seeing Jonathan react to the guns of SIGNALIS. I would love to see if they're close to any real life counterparts.

[@Dreju78]

13:10 Why is the inside ofthe barrel also painted?!😁

[@TheSundayShooter]

Dipping the barrel in paint was easier than spray it :D

[@Birdvado]

Its a shame they didn't show Johnathon the game's MP7, it "HK slaps" the air where an mp5 charging handle would be on the empty reload. Would have loved to hear what he has to say about that

[@ImTheMan0fSteel]

As hes done more and more of these, he takes game design into account more and more. Which i appreciate. Sometimes devs get chastized for not making something realistic, when realisn in that context would have significantly hurt gameplay.

[@meme__salad]

7:24 it’s strictly a bolt hold open. You can’t release the bolt by hitting that button, it’s basically just a piece of metal on a hinge that gets in the way of the bolt to lock it back

[@WipZedKay]

I guess this is one way to experience the game while the servers are still down lol

[@herbion6117]

2:37 that's an in-game skill from one of the skill specializations.

[@NinjaEnShort]

M14 bolt release is just too small, both in surface and lever length, it's ironically easier to use the charging handle.

[@davydatwood3158]

Even more than the silencer working too well, my thought in that sequence is "why are the injured but not disabled police not making a *lot* more noise?"

[@smul9230]

I love that he wears the blue gloves to

[@repapeti98]

0:01 Jonathan really said c:

[@JordanFlayer]

I wonder if they purposely modeled the Glock as a model 7 as an easter egg to Die Hard 2

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

I mentioned that during recording 😂

[@JordanFlayer]

@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries i figured you would have spotted that! shame it got cut :(

[@entropy11]

2:20 given the context of the game, it's probably an illegally sourced law-enforcement or dealer sample full auto.

[@TheSundayShooter]

That explains the select-fire, but the ATF compliant barrel remains a mystery

[@thebeastmk2]

Didn't expect this so soon

[@otbc1999]

I'd love to see Jonathan's reaction to the thundergun from bo1 zombies

[@walkerwhited]

Finally, a game with real guns he might actually have, love it

[@infernaldaedra]

I know crazy how rare it is these days

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

Annoyingly, we don't have much of what was featured this time!

[@walkerwhited]

@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries just hearing the discussion on “real” guns is good enough. Been saying they should give you some old PS2 games like BLACK or Socom so we can look at how they had to model guns back then, and then see the real stuff in hand. I think that would be a lot of fun.

[@Kroq_Gar]

@@walkerwhited BLACK, what a classic.

[@DeeJay5K]

He's done Battlebit

[@kichtdicky8441]

Fun fact about the Milkor MGL, you cannot recharge the the cylinders in a stop and go motion, you must charge the cylinders in a full 360 to have the weapon system cycle all 6 rounds.

[@Aetherial_Moth]

9:55 Suddenly I think Jonathan knows more german than we knew he did, haha.

[@rodp1984]

I have the MPX-k with the shorter barrel. LOVE it!

[@SaltSpirits]

3:16 the simple explanation for this is that every heister in the game walks around with invisible vacuums in their shoes that are attached to the magazines duh

[@TBH69420]

Much love for your content and passion, Jonathan ♥♥

[@eriktheos6022]

Jonathan unlocked a new background!

[@Lemmiatem78]

I don't have the most amount of time on a M14/M1a but I have never seen the bolt released from the left hand side of the rifle. Gonna check it out when I get back into work.

[@anamusingidiot2565]

He's wearing the gloves!! Jonathan Ferguson confirmed 7th heister!!!

[@SpringLeafWolf]

The M14 is by far my favorite gun.

[@under-chonker]

I would like to see Jonathan reacting to the guns of Warframe

[@axanael]

Funny Jonathan's comments about the MGL because it's notorious for getting yourself killed from friendly fire even in game

[@Provoses]

God I love the Chiappa rhino. I was fortunate enough to get one a couple months ago and it’s a beautiful weapon

[@knightfall91]

3:07 it's a perk that tops up the mag in the gun

[@TheEldritchStrom]

Ayo Jon, good to see you looking at more guns again. Keeping me tuned into this channel bud. And your other buddy, sure he doesn't get enough shoutouts but I'm guessing he's one of the ones who pulls all the clips and stuff and goes over them with you. Can't remember his name at the moment, the guy who does the intro.

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

Thank you! That's Dave the producer. This series was his idea 😊

[@TheEldritchStrom]

@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Big shoutout to Dave then. Producer's/Editors don't always get the props they deserve sometimes. Dude is putting in work.

[@LateNightHalo]

While they’re not using the real names, I’m at least happy they modeled them authentically (or as best as they could) I wish Cod would stop with the fictional weapon models

[@leerethamel3204]

The m14 bolt catch pushes in to hold bolt open So slapping it wouldn't send bolt home and I just tried slapping side to see if it causes any sort of inertia bolt bounce...all that happened is hurt my wrist

[@TomahawkDan]

I think you should talk about the amazon optic that developers love putting into games.

[@duke223_]

As Jonathan is already wearing the distinct blue gloves I wouldn't be surprised to see him as a future addition to the payday gang as their firearms expert :P

[@nice1bro759]

its time for a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. episode

[@ncrranger6409]

Hey could you guys have Johnathan react to the guns from Zombie Army 4? I’ve been playing it recently and I’m curious what he would say about the guns. Especially once they get attachments and the more outlandish guns like the preacher.

[@dw9192]

Love the channel😊 specifically the armory stuff

[@claytopolis]

Before anyone tries to complain about the incredibly small amount of guns compared to payday 2, understand that both games run on two entirely different engines. All of these guns likely had to be made from scratch since they couldn't just be ported over. We'll probably get back to payday 2 levels of guns but it will take time.

[@TugaAvenger]

Completely unfair to compare to 10 years of DLC.

[@bruticus1496]

@@TugaAvengereven at launch 2 had more verity

[@bruticus1496]

But I didn’t know it’s a different engine

[@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg]

​@@bruticus1496you mean 27 guns that have the same animations as 4 of them execpt they all have microscopic differences in handling and accuracy? Payday 2 is quantity over quality in most measures. Most of Payday 2's arsenal is unironically just copy and pasted weaponry with the most dramatic change being the model itself.

[@Niikemi]

I'd love an episode on Monster Hunter: World's wide variety of Light/Heavy Bowguns and Gunlances. The Hunter: Call of the Wild would also be fascinating Thanks for the video Johathan, Adam and Dave! You guys are rockstars

[@aod4796]

I have Shoot and use the m14 in the US Navy and yes, the side slap is done and it a little fun to do.

[@Dostoron]

some of the footage is only the "stock" configurations, barrels, stocks, muzzle devices, magazines and visors are customizable, so i imagine especially the marksman rifles can be outfitted with longer barrels.

[@90lancaster]

+13:00 on the face of it a Pink Gun seems a little silly, but actually it isn't quite as silly as it first seems. The SAS had their "Pink Panther" edition vehicles and such like and some towns use a lot of pink brick or pink render on their buildings. also Pink isn't the "worst" desert camo you can imagine when it's a muted pink like this. So as outlandish as it seems I kinda dig it for historical reasons.

[@nilsmcmountain2377]

I came here to see the guns because I still can't play the game.

[@Max-js1mx]

literally 😂

[@levferno483]

This game shouldn’t have been as bad as it is, but at least we got Jon to look at the guns.

[@Kruess]

Coincidence since he always does it, but amusing to see him doing a bit for Payday, while also nearly in a similar attire (primarily the surgical gloves) sans a weird mask.

[@PermadeathHD]

I’d say the M14 is one of the more chunky guns I’ve used. Surprised me how heavy the action and how stiff the mag release was on the M14 I used.

[@aerthreepwood8021]

M14 or M1A?

[@PermadeathHD]

@@aerthreepwood8021 M14

[@KarlDelaney99]

Looks like Johnathan is ready for a heist with those blue latex gloves lol

[@suchopsmimic399]

The slap with the m14 is right and wrong at the same time. The bolt release they have in right now really only works as a bolt catch. You technically could use it ws a bolt release I think, but I find it nearly impossible to do it without breaking my thumb. Instead most people buy an aftermarket paddle that you replace the current one with. If you did that then you can slap it .

[@doomslayer8025]

The ammo going into the mag is a perk that you need a buff to do

[@protossinator]

I'd love to see Jonathan look at some of the weapons from the Ratchet and Clank franchise!

[@Max-js1mx]

video was released before the launch server crapfest is fixed holy

[@romanlegiontv]

That m14 also has the adaptor to be reloaded via stripper clips

[@wolfman-up7dh]

"As my brain has just informed me..." is a great line.

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

nice to see Overkill leaving a much stronger impression with the models in the new game.

[@cogarren4085]

Odd that the action release on the M870 under the receiver is on the wrong side of the trigger. Almost perfect

[@shockwave6213]

We actually do have suppressors that work this well now, where If you're using subsonic ammo, the loudest thing you hear is the gun cycling. Commercially available suppressor baffling technology has made huge leaps and bounds over just even a decade ago.

[@kenlort1]

the only reason why i was hyped for payday 3, is to see Jonathan Ferguson reaction ngl

[@tbr2109]

The M14, as originally designed, didn't have a bolt quick release. The "button" in this video appears to me to be the stock bolt stop which is way too small and fiddly to actuate with a firm press let alone a quick slap. You have to install an aftermarket part if you want it to function as it is portrayed here (i.e. like an AR-style rifle). As an additional nerdy gripe magazine changes on a real-life M14 are a lot more "rock-and-lock" than is portrayed here. They could have just reused the AK animation and it would have been a lot more accurate.

[@FoxMacLeod2501]

It would be ideal to show examples of game specifics, immediately after being pointed out by our host. Even if we see some in-game video right before Jonathan describes something about it (such as @11:43), we still probably need to see that gameplay clip again. Most viewers, I'd wager, simply had not thought to pay much attention to the simulated progressive sonic modulation of each successive "fthoonk," as the tube mag was being replenished - until it was pointed out afterward. Rather than leaving the task of going back in the video to any sufficiently interested viewers, it's customary (and appreciated) to simply play the original clip, over again; or, even better, to provide a truncated or more specifically pointed bit of video, that plainly demonstrates the matter at hand (for example, a cleaner clip of reloading the _Payday 3_ 870, with clear audio of each cartridge's "fthoonk," from empty to full), one or more times, consecutively, or slowed down, if deemed necessary to help the viewer pick up on short-duration examples, or to help one isolate less immediately-discernible details.

[@FoxMacLeod2501]

Solid video, though, otherwise! Well, except for the dismal lighting on everything Jonathan tries to show us, anyway...

[@garfield1079]

7:10 oh no it's a bridge

[@roccobastone1441]

how do they know what the guns play like if the servers are down

[@rickimaru915]

I do believe that’s the Punisher on Jonathan’s t-shirt 👍

[@ColtGuthrie]

On the M14, it’s just a bolt hold-open device. There’s no good way to use it as a bolt release. The best, and really only way, is to simply pull back on the charging handle with no magazine inserted, or a full magazine inserted.

[@Goofyahahll]

It’s more amazing that they got into the game to play it in the first place. Going on 4 hours of play time without having played a single game

[@Omega_A3]

the mk32 MGL has a plunger to drop all the shells out but to wind it up you have to do it all in one go. if you do it like that in the game you will be stuck with it only rotating once until its released.

[@Orkkisangels]

13:08 Nice points but chamber and inside barrel pristine pink

[@Super-Kuper]

Jonathan is very knowledgeable, but sometimes I just want to shout at the screen. That Remington 700 is clearly supposed to be the 700 SPS Tactical which is perfectly correct on theme, and has a 16" barrel.

[@MrHrvojek]

So my dad showed me a photo of him when he was in the Croatian army during the Yugoslavia war and if I can remember correctly the AK that he had looked exactly like that and he said that it was made Romania and it had that lip

[@mindcrafter129]

3:15 Thats a skill that you can get to auto add bullets to your mag

[@snight01]

ahh.. the mpx.. i worked in a section where that was my primary firearm. Mine had automatic feature.

[@fractalmushroom]

Is youtube nuking the bitrate for non premium the reason you can't make out any details on the firearms Jonathan is holding up to his camera? You really can't make out any of the markings and it would be great if you guys could look at that. One of my favorite shows on youtube big fan guys.