First encounter Ginrai with apex armour

[@rellko3900]

I love the awkward silence after he announces that his name is God Ginrai lol

[@RetroRenegade8706]

I just love the publics reaction, like "ah, another giant alien robot transforming. Nothing to see here."

[@トーキ-g8v]

More like “man I’m still not used to him looking so much like Optimus.”

[@Maswartz226]

I mean most of them were also transformers.

[@Beast_WarsFan597]

God Ginrai, light our darkest hour…

[@uberkirbeeh7954]

This episode was pretty sad and dark. Ginrai had developed PTSD from his previous encounter with Overlord, in which he almost died. Ginrai always knew the risk that came with fighting the Decepticons and had almost paid the full price of it. He tried not to think about it, so that the fear would not consume him. Yet when everyone realized that Ginrai was the only one who would be able to go and fight both Black Zarak and Overlord in space, he tried so hard to make sure to his comrads and Junior Headmasters that it’s ok and he can do it. But Minerva saw him at his weakest, alone and hurt. God Bomber’s production had to be sped up so that Ginrai would able to go to space, and they got it done just in time before Black Zarak arrived on the moon.

[@alexjimenez997]

Man, I kinda hate how they killed him off like that

[@narlord8613]

​@@alexjimenez997He never died.

[@Rako_the_Awesome]

@@narlord8613Ginrai becomes a true Transformer at the end of this series and dies fighting Deathsaurus in the next series before being rebuilt into Victory Leo.

[@narlord8613]

@@Rako_the_Awesome The end result him dying as a Godmaster to be reborn as a Brave-looking bot was new to me.

[@Rako_the_Awesome]

@@narlord8613I mean, after Devil Z was destroyed, the Autobots weren’t Godmasters anymore. The humans were separated from the Cybertrons and they became true living being on their own. They never showed if anyone other than Buster and Hydra still had their small robots to hook up to the larger robots. Even Mega and Giga had their Transtector brought to life before the end because Devil Z knew they were betraying him.

[@otaking3582]

"We want to distance ourselves from the original G1 continuity, but we're too lazy to create a new toy- I mean, we don't want to alienate our audience too much"

[@justingates4985]

This show was part of the G1 continuity, though...it was a continuation from Headmasters, which picked up where season 3 ended...and the Ginrai toy and Godbomber were completely new toys, along with the Headmaster Juniors, Pretenders, and other Godmasters.

[@otaking3582]

@@justingates4985 1) It might be in the same continuity, but only loosely. Hell, the head writer, Masumi Kaneda, even said that the Headmaster series was meant as a conclusion for the Movie characters and that Super-God Masterforce was to give the series a "fresh start" (look it up on Transformers Wiki). 2) Your definition of "new toy" might conflict with mine. True, Ginrai wasn't the same as the original Optimus Prime/Convoy toy from 1984, but he is basically the same as the Powermaster Optimus Prime from 1988, just with minor cosmetic differences (shorter smoke stacks, clear plastic windows, etc.) And that really goes back to the point I was trying to make - they wanted a new protagonist, one that was human to make it more like every other super robot anime, but they still wanted him to look identical to Prime for brand recognition and so they wouldn't have to design an entirely new toy.

[@justingates4985]

@@otaking3582 Masterforce is basically what is going on with the Earth while the Headmasters series focused more on the battles in space and was intended to be season 4 if you ignore "The Rebirth" mini series that got released in the US...there is a brief message from Chromedome, from Headmasters, to the Autobot Pretenders stationed on Earth at the beginning of Masterforce that sets up the story about letting humans do their own fighting to defend Earth.

[@Brakzillaa]

all I know is, can they please give japan the rights to make more transformer series please?? God I miss this type of style. Just have not been a fan of the American transformer series. I'll see what the new netflix beast kingdoms all about, but so far have just been disappointed with the previous series.

[@otaking3582]

@@Brakzillaa Same. Hell, I avoided Prime when it was airing because I was pissed about Transformers Go not coming stateside

[@bigwilly43729]

Japanese voice actors are the hypest people ever. They take some already awesome shit to the next level.

[@redragon1990]

Japanese actors in general, have you seen kamen rider?

[@AlwaysbeingLu]

It's just screaming... so no it's not awesome. if I wanted screaming, I'd go to the meat department at a grocery store and not pay attention when my number is called.

[@jesseowenvillamor6348]

@@AlwaysbeingLu Nah its full of emotions and badassness as well.

[@bluemarble5338]

@@AlwaysbeingLu It’s not just screaming. Hell, even if it was, it would still be 100 times better than a lot of the lifeless American cartoon voice acting.

[@djsoundwave5595]

*looks at gai shishidoh* Agreed

[@gunman771000]

I used to have that Toy. It was the coolest Optimus Prime ever

[@manuefeli]

This was a "saga-spinoff so his name is ginrai

[@justingates4985]

@@manuefeli They likely had Powermaster Optimus Prime...in the anime, the robot body was intended to be a replacement for Optimus, and then he died again in Headmasters, so it never got used and was later stolen...Ginrai is the name of the human who piloted the robot...when the robot became sentient it took Ginrai's name, but up until that point it was an Optimus Transtector.

[@brumph7256]

I begged my mom for that toy for like 2 weeks....🤣🤣🤣

[@xilem7126]

I'm buying one

[@whosaidthat84]

I had it too! The base mode was my favorite!

[@whereaspa]

0:40 This BGM is so epic that it really raises some kind of mood about an expectation toward triumph.

[@muhammadammarraziqrosli1979]

Ginrai,Super Ginrai,God Ginrai,Victory Leo,Victory Saber.

[@Memus2008]

interesting fact: without Takara Tomy there would be no Transformers

[@powerslave6944]

I was used to the English dub when I watched this as a kid. There’s a difference in the script I scantily recall.

[@felixphaneuf9011]

instead of Ginrai it's typical U.S.A who called Convoy as Optimus Prime

[@justingates4985]

I love Masterforce! One of the best seasons of Transformers along with The Headmasters season.

[@masterfarr8265]

Anyone here because of the upcoming MP Ginrai?

[@yewmun6010]

Hi, yeah. I'm "fairly" late to the party. But yes, there is a Leader Class God Ginrai Set by Takara (with a "gift" , overhyped HeadMaster Minerva...her Full Junior Headmaster now released... it not so special now). And before this set was made known... you could purchase them individually. And yes, they would still combine. Its by Takara as well. Only shortfall here is the individual set - Optimus is a HeadMaster. You gota purchase an add-on (3rd Party) called Perfect Effect to change him into a Powermaster. However, in combined form, you can hardly tell the difference as the exterior body shows the Power Master in the Mould - sort of.

[@yewmun6010]

Oh Yes : PS : I can't recall if the God Ginrai set... Was Optimus a Headmaster as well.

[@DragoonMS]

@@yewmun6010 Yup. Both versions of Ginrai - LG35 Super Ginrai & from the LGEX God Ginrai set - are Headmasters, it's effectively a retool of Titans Return Leader class "Powermaster" Optimus Prime (itself a retool of Combiner Wars/LG14 Ultra Magnus). Godbomber is a Headmaster (and also a Leader class) as well.

[@yewmun6010]

@@DragoonMS Thanks for sharing that. Awesome.

[@HomelessOldMan9000]

He is literally using the corpse of optimus prime as a mech

[@MrGrimlocksmash]

Metal

[@HashbrownMashup]

Eh, happens more often than you'd think

[@rhthehuman866]

@Brian Babin Wasn't the transtector meant to be an upgrade for Optimus but he died before I could get it?

[@Ato-3000J]

I always thought of Ginrai being a reincarnation of OP. So I would feel more comfortable about a human using OP’s body

[@narlord8613]

​@@Ato-3000JAnd OP trusts trustworthy humans.

[@HypercatZ]

Ginrai looks like Optimus Prime, but the sharpest eyes will notice some differences. The series has even a decepticon called Sixknight that looks totally like Sixshots, but with a different face.

[@crmshv6826]

They're all part of the same "Ninja clan"

[@felixphaneuf9011]

Sixknight is a repaint of Quickswitch

[@ShadowMoon878]

The sequel to the Masterforce is Transformers Victory where Ginrai was ressurected as Victory Leo.

[@imofage3947]

Pretty sure I had this toy when I was a kid. Never knew it as God Ginrai or saw the show it was from.

[@chrisgoffe5048]

..think it was power master ..i remember the advert on tv

[@onlyawesomely1622]

"Defend. ...All they can be.." *blasts off into the sky-*

[@terror_tank3458]

How dare they transformed Optimus into a Gundam

[@marzukimahmud1612]

Well I heard Transformers originally from japan..

[@daniellim5275]

This is not gundam my friend.

[@0047sssss]

@@marzukimahmud1612 The original Microman and Diaclone toylines were japanese but the whole franchise was created by Hasbro in the US

[@tszulpinedo757]

Estás pendejo, Optimus fue primero y después Gundam

[@daisukegori2112]

No, how dare they make horrible movies and remake shows. This is actually amazing

[@zoltanperei4789]

So this is where they took from the jetpack of Animated Prime.

[@maximaldinotrap]

This is where optimus flight upgrades in general come from.

[@reyonXIII]

It might seem out of place, but I do wish we got more references to the Japanese G1 continuity, where Takara was doing its own thing after G1 Season 2, before they and Hasbro started ACTUALLY working together for Beast Wars. Derrick J. Wyatt gave us a couple in Animated with cameos from Cancer and Hydra, but with TF nowadays being mostly just G1 centric, while I'm glad that Masterforce has gotten some Generation Selects toys, including Black Zarak, we need more Have Optimus reference Ginrai in some way, do what Animated did and have a version of Minerva, something.

[@edwarddeguzman3258]

For Hasbro/American Release Magnus Prime that was in the Siege on Cybertron Box set is pretty much Ginrai, even listing his head master as Ginrai, and there was a Godbomber released that combined with it so we got God Ginrai

[@gabrielchee8470]

And then they reissued the godbomber as apex Armor, and Minerva had quite a few new toys (1 headmaster, and that random, came out of nowhere legacy one)

[@SulliMike23]

I don’t care what anyone says, THAT LOOKS LIKE OPTIMUS PRIME!!!!

[@Latitube]

Because it was an upgrade for optimus prime

[@Wrangler-fp4ei]

@@Latitube Technically Power Master, Optimus Prime. But who counting?

[@davidsudjana]

Transformers originated from Japan after all, or at least the toys did, the story/lore came much later after someone brought them to America

[@zxtreme31]

They briefly explain in an episode that the body was meant to be an upgraded body for prime before he died. That’s why the human was able to act as a “soul” for it. It was an empty shell of a transformer.

[@justingates4985]

If Prime hadn't been killed again in Headmasters, it would have been Optimus Prime. Godbomber was an upgraded version of Roller.

[@JosephDillman]

I remember feeling so cheated when I learned there was a whole 'nutha shiny piece of kit I never had for my Powermaster Optimus Prime.

[@trebledc]

I feel sorry for Optimus prime.

[@ShadowMoon878]

Thats not Optimus Prime.

[@JackalJBlack]

@@ShadowMoon878 i.pinimg.com/originals/99/70/9d/99709d9d0d40c56707d1fee985367edc.jpg think befor you speak

[@rickmack422]

何もこんな雨がしとしと降っとる日にしなくても…

[@ルヴィアライザー]

晴れてると場所借りられなかったんじゃね？

[@m.e7819]

この時は宇宙からブラックザラックという巨大な敵が地球のデストロンと合流しようとしていたのでそれを阻止する為に余裕が無かったという状況です

[@gabedaxe477]

When Japan makes transf awesome

[@patricksowders7989]

Everything after not so much

[@patricksowders7989]

@Brian Babin I agree headmasters was the dumbest of all three and I'm not talking about the very bad english dubbing either but everything after masterforce was just bland the only thing I kinda enjoyed was r.i.d

[@Gamer-1-2024]

@@patricksowders7989 i respect ur guys opioin but i like super god master force and head masters .i took a likeing into ginaria

[@mat0018]

A show created by a Japanese animation studio, for a Japanese audience and not an American audience, and was never intended to be seen by Americans, shouldn't be full anime? Explain that logic to me.

[@XFactor5a]

Ever notice it's redundant for Ginrai to transform from cab to robot, then back to cab just to combine with the trailer?

[@therealbahamut]

Yeah I kinda furrowed my brows at that one too, LOL...

[@robertphillips5459]

Power master Optimus prime, greatest hero of our time!!!!😁😁😁😁

[@FabianoCigano]

ANAKIN SKYWALKER SAID : " IAM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CONFUSED ! "

[@Ccnewchannel]

Beastman Review sent me here so i could see what a Powermaster was!

[@disrupter8318]

That guy looks like spike which made me happy

[@kirasatoshi905]

Totally not Optimus Prime...

[@ryannakao7265]

Ginrai’s transeptor is literally Optimus prime with a power master upgrade

[@Fenris30]

other way around actually.

[@ekming751]

The human sure can bend and fold .

[@佐藤弐号]

何気に飛び立った場所が 『鈴鹿サーキット』⁉️

[@shaul558]

Our captivity is ending AHAYAH has redeemed Jacob

[@MrAsterian75]

Need an official MP of this figure

[@justingates4985]

The Legends release was pretty sweet if you can get your hands on the Perfect Effect upgrades, but yeah...I'd buy a MP version if it came with Godbomber...and if they didn't make it overpriced like a lot of the recent Masterpiece figures.

[@cyclonus96]

You got your wish! It’s on Hasbro pulse as of 4/20/24👍🏻

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

Everyone knows the safest place to be on a super robot, is right outside on the chest.

[@petershen8229]

Optimus what you doing here!??

[@0._-kirby_the_gamer-_.0]

POV: you didn't know transformers was japanese

[@GoldenSpinxz]

it looks like optimus prime with added recipe on it

[@stephenbyrne2170]

I'm sorry to disappoint you but, that's not Prime.

[@UltraGalaxyify]

So basically, Michael Bay ripped this off for Transformers: Rise of the Fallen when Optimus Prime donner Jetfire's parts for his flight mode, except much less badass than this version obviously

[@syafiqjabar]

@@UltraGalaxyify The writers for the movie were basically given the a big book of Transformers history (maybe it was Visual Guide or something) to get inspiration from. And yes you can trace everything in the Michael Bay movie to past Transformers media. It's not the first time Optimus combined with Jetfire either.

[@TNR_Dragon]

Is it just me, or does the arm wings and jet pack look very similar to optimus' flight mode in transformers animated? Or am i just tripping?

[@KingKuuga]

It was an intentional homage by the character designer of Animated.

[@saldzbob9972]

​@@KingKuugahell there's even a reference to kiss player.

[@dol_mel7487]

Godbomber not apex armor* Also shouldn't this be the first appearance of god ginrai, or first combination sequence

[@AstroboyFunFly]

The Apex Armor is the american adaption of the God Armor (or God Bomber). You see, America issued Power Master Prime in the US at some point together with God bomber, which has been renamed into a new weapon called the Apex Armor. The term Apex Armor has later been popularized from Transformers Prime as a transformable armor that makes you invincible. Including IDW Transformers, which was used by Sentinel Prime to fight off deceptions, and in a mission to rip off Alpha Trion's head. They simply used the American term "Apex Armor, rather than the Japanese term "God Armor". (Note: Apex Armor and God Armor use the same toy, just two completely different ideas and origin story)

[@adamxue6096]

You also have to take account of the fact that Power master Optimus Prime essentially is an entirely different character than Ginrai. Including how they essentially function. explaining this is a huge pain in the ass involving many problems drawing as far back as the 1986 movie incident that completely split the two continuity apart...(Japanese and American) But in MF atleast, or in the legends manga, Godbomber should be called Godbomber, and God Ginrai should be called God Ginrai. Not Apex Armor Power master Prime with Hi-Q. That said, vice versa for the marvel comics. But that never came out as a show so yeah... Also yes, TFP made the term Apex armor more famous, while Godbomber is... not really remembered at all.

[@動画視聴専門]

そうか、アニメイテッドのオプティマスの飛行ユニットを見て なんか見覚えがあるなと思ったら ゴットジンライと同じだった

[@protoborg]

So...a human is acting as his spark, huh? Uh...huh.

[@ShadowMoon878]

Actually he is not a human. He is a "transformer pretender".

[@protoborg]

@@ShadowMoon878 Nope. He is clearly human.

[@ayakoholic]

Jinrai: I'VE GOT A TRANSFORMER MECH SUIT Guy at 0:10 : meh

[@bencarolan5726]

@ayakoholic You Mean *Metalhawk* , A Japanese Autobot Pretender

[@Rx9321]

Крутой мультик из детства, по-моему лучший из того что был и есть сейчас! (Про Трансформеров)

[@HashbrownMashup]

The OG Jet Optimus Prime

[@OptimalMario]

But it's not Optimus...

[@HashbrownMashup]

@@OptimalMario I only accept Omni dub canon.

[@km-8917]

No, this is 10x more powerful then bays attempt on the jet power Optimus. It’s like comparing the speed of a meteor falling to the atmosphere to your RC plane.

[@HashbrownMashup]

Bayverse? Bitch please, I was talking about Armada.

[@km-8917]

@@HashbrownMashup could’ve been more specific.

[@CammyTheCamera]

Kinda like Japan’s ideas about starting they’re own transformers franchises

[@shanebluesky7452]

Hasbro been really quite for sometime

[@BDParadigm]

Godo Ginrai!!! (yelling)

[@bencarolan5726]

@BDParadigm _Super-God Combination!! GOD GINRAI!!!_

[@technicolorgiallo1111]

Well... that was excessive.

[@ВиталийВасилевский-е1д]

Как же я любил смотреть эту хуету в детстве!

[@zadkmb]

ゴッド陣内智則

[@ゆうきちくもと]

ビクトリーレオはゴットジンライのどの部分を引き継いだんだろう

[@startoys2113]

Bad Ass God Ginrai.

[@willfomes406]

Power master Optimus Prime.

[@erichanastacio9695]

Optimus Prime.... Got Supersized.... Got Ultra Magnus Mode with flight capability... What's next???

[@Mate397]

Omega Supreme thrown into the mix for greater size.

[@erichanastacio9695]

@@Mate397 I guess so. 😁😁😁

[@rhthehuman866]

That ain't Optimus. He died a series ago.

[@robbiewilliams5065]

Reminds of the Energon Optimus Prime

[@dominiqueleroy3826]

Is that Optimus Prime ?

[@jasonarce5169]

Transformers is the super rare case of U.S. Base companies taken Japanese toys lines and animation. Reformatting it. And creative something Superior. That last the test of time. And if anybody disagree. We do not see big studios making movies about Convoy a human piloted truck robot. Optimus Prime is born from Convoy. But he has surpass the toy he is base on.

[@josephsheranda]

It was successful only because Hasbro was able to capitalize on the last generation of "Americana" and national pride. The Reagan administration's answer to cold war fear was privatized propaganda: G.I. Joe and Transformers were the most visible to children. Every child wanted to believe that the "real American hero" would stop the USSR before they launched nukes. And what's more American than a red, white, and blue semi truck?

[@tmeu]

Indeed. It was the strongest. How come no one mentioned about the time limit?

[@johnlemuelm.santiago6036]

At first he thinks that it's only abtrack

[@Russian_ship]

Очень нравился этот мультик😊

[@danperez3983]

A human Optimus wow

[@robertj.3383]

So that ain't Optimus Prime over there? Convoy? Whatever.

[@MacrossJet]

So, wait... in the Japanese Transformers, they're not sentient? They piloted by humans???

[@myilham81]

well in the end all autobots were conscious and thanks the humans for piloting them. the decepticons too but threw away they pilots but didnt kill em

[@MacrossJet]

@@myilham81 so, the Headmasters basically?

[@myilham81]

@@MacrossJet i forgot the whole plot its been 20yrs i missed lot of episodes on tv

[@muhammadfarhanidris1851]

Coolest optimus

[@marcdhwaine1382]

God ginrai transforming with the apex armor on the transformation is voltes five transformation

[@steeldrago73]

I both love this and f*n hate it.

[@EfrénJiménez-s9s]

Que ondas ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😮

[@caffeinedelusions]

Reducing Optimus Prime to 'Someone Else's Mecha' is a sin and Japan should damned well know better.

[@ZiGarcia]

This was the original though. :P

[@caffeinedelusions]

Japan created the TOYS. America (specifically Bob Budiansky of Marvel Comics) created the story that made those toys distinctive and unique characters. The Transformers cartoon was something that started in America and then was exported back to Japan. Given that I didn't say 'Convoy', you should know better than to claim I was talking even remotely about the diaclone toy rather than the Transformers character. And no, this was not remotely 'the original'. This was from a Japanese spinoff series that was written as a sequel/followup to the Japanese localization of the American Transformers cartoon and worked primarily from the story established in the American canon (the Japanese continuity acknowledges all but the last few episodes of the American cartoon). It's SEVERAL layers of interpretation and divergence and cultural translations and retranslations deep from the original Diaclone material.

[@mr.spongylikeaboss4987]

@@caffeinedelusions Once again, Japan does it better. Oh America, when will you ever learn to have an original idea?.

[@caffeinedelusions]

The fact that Japan does it DIFFERENTLY does not indicate that Japan does it BETTER. In fact, my core point here is that by reducing Optimus Prime to the role of a vehicle piloted by some random guy, they in fact made Transformers WORSE.

[@jadeimusprime2158]

@@caffeinedelusions Masterforce was literally just "Transformers but its Super Sentai"

[@JAVIEROCK1]

Que genial era está transformación.

[@LucasLeguisamon-kl1rx]

Víva Transformers y chau

[@zaggandeleo5024]

AAAAHH CHINGAA!! JAPONÉS!?!?! DE QUÉ AÑO SALIÓ!?!?

[@RomulusProffitt]

1988

[@timephire]

How many times does one need to transform before its enough?! Lol ;o)

[@libatako]

As many times as needed...or until my wallet can’t keep up with the figures

[@GDSK09]

Yes

[@tonycontento]

16.

[@ThisPhenomenonV2]

But that’s just Optimus doing super mode?

[@rhthehuman866]

That is not Optimus Prime. Optimus Prime died a series ago.

[@canopyfields]

GOTOH GINRAI!!

[@blbfyt]

I didn't know Optimus Prime can speak Japanese......

[@souljastation5463]

He's born there, then emigrated when he was just a few years old. His real name is Battle Convoy.

[@rhthehuman866]

That isn't Optimus Prime

[@Okie-00-Spool]

So when the Japanese took full creative control over the Transformers cartoon franchise, they were like "Finally! The freedom to make all the characters act like spazzes and have bubbles around their heads, and annoying childlike characters abound". 😢

[@royasturias1784]

Gotta sell toys to boys still

[@gauix7]

이런 트랜스포머 변신이 있었나? 헐.

[@huus5682]

sentai ranger x transformer, or transformer multiverse of madness

[@MmMobile-eg2wj]

Prototype brave series

[@virgodragon20]

High

[@robertoacevedo6247]

Did I see kogi kabuto on the bleachers ( pilot of Mazinger z, tranzor z in USA)????

[@jesusjaviersicairos5421]

Amazing,

[@mrdel7776]

Would love to see optimus prime headmaster super link transformer to his trailer lol ha ha

[@cujoedaman]

It's just a parts-former...

[@whatthefuckeidos9230]

Like every combiner Transformer? lol

[@Optimalillusion]

"It's just a model...."

[@Sbungo61]

That's the definition of combiner

[@rhthehuman866]

Yeah that's how armour works.

[@zaimhazmin8851]

gotto ginyai!!! ike!

[@davidvillas4903]

Ta to guapo primo

[@videlafernando]

Optimus que te hicieron estos japos.

[@romellerodrigueza6695]

Optimus Prime twin brother?

[@rhthehuman866]

No. That was meant to be an upgrade for Optimus. But he died before he could use it. So some random guy turned it into a mech suit or something.

[@codydillon2144]

I have the 3rd party evasion mode optimus with some of those upgrades

[@grantfoss3457]

I know this Transformers. What else is this called

[@TheAljed]

A guy transforms into something then into something then into something then into something then. Did I get right?

[@Lordkazekage1987]

What is this. I have never seen a transformers series like that before

[@francescoromani4539]

Double power up!😎😎😎

[@jimfashik]

In Japan it was called diaclone

[@zlee001]

transformer was a brave series????

[@MmMobile-eg2wj]

Let just say it's prototype version And god Ginrai reminds me of Genesic GaoGaiGar

[@DiggitySlice]

0:30 lol why is a random Hokuto charcter in this?