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[@maxrei8786]

I'm looking forward to a video where you list the best B550 boards for every price point like you did with B450!

[@ennuideblase7888]

From the 100k video it sounds like he's not, but hopefully he'll do one for us anyways. :)

[@maxtech1015]

Like a Shopping with BZ video or like the summary one he did with GamersNexus?

[@arrowdynamlc]

So this is ASRock proving they still know how to make a good motherboard, they just didn't feel like it with Z490.

[@smilingbandit6900]

and x570 imo. i look at you x570m pro.

[@oscarbanana6159]

Z490 may not sell that well. I think they are just putting the resources toward the more popular socket. And AM4 is definitely more popular among DIY enthusiasts.

[@everythingfeline7367]

Except the B550 PRO4 has worse IO than the B350 version i have.... that's sad

[@nintendomaniac64]

@@everythingfeline7367 That only applies to the full ATX B550 Pro4; the micro ATX B550 Pro4 has the exact same IO as the B350 Pro4 except that it replaces the B350's DVI port with DisplayPort.

[@lexavaritia7596]

Asrock be like: Umm eyah intel yeeet. B550 go prprpr

[@kelly63096]

Bullzoid: Instead of making multiple videos I am going to make one really long video Me: *falls asleep with the video on loop* Bullzoid: *wondering how this turned profitable video*

[@HyunMoKoo]

I genuinely believe Asrock doesn't care about Z490. Just look at Z490 Taichi vs B550 Taichi...

[@oscarshen6855]

The whole Intel 10th gen line up is just a place holder. The Z490 platform is designed for next gen, a real new generation. They can wait until 11th to take Z490 seriously.

[@andreas_ak]

I'm just surprised and really excited for the fact that they made B550 Taichi.

[@MashmanMusic]

@Timothy Gillis where would you pre-order? I can't see it available for pre-order anywhere.

[@bobnorman3094]

@@MashmanMusic Also curious, this board looks amazing.

[@Chuckiele]

Ikr, the x570 Taichi was already great for 300 bucks, the b550 needs to be even cheaper to make sense, thats a really great deal.

[@Chuckiele]

@Timothy Gillis Thats really weird.

[@simonreuter7803]

In Germany the X570 Taichi goes for around 350€, the B550 Taichi is now avaible for preorder for 310€. The price will probably go down a littlebit over time, but not that much. If it would be around 250€ I would consider it, but currently it is a littlebit to high for me.

[@MrBalboxd]

Doesn't Ryzen have 24 PCIe lanes? 16 for GPU, 4 for a M.2 SSD and 4 for the Chipset?

[@riba2233]

Yes

[@ramondiaz6044]

@@riba2233 Is it the same for ryzen`s first generation?

[@Azraleee]

@@ramondiaz6044 Yes.

[@igoresque]

Someday BZ will learn about the middle-click on the mouse.

[@divaythfyr4251]

I'm kinda losing hope.

[@Rob-qc9en]

I literally thought that!, maybe... someday

[@plonk420]

or zooming (ctrl+mouse wheel). at least he's on FOXFIRE (sic) rather than IE/Edge/whatever 🤢

[@igoresque]

@@plonk420 he is using chrome in this video

[@night_h4nter]

And Ctrl+Shift+T to restore the closed tab.

[@jackgleeson8321]

#asrockredemtionarc

[@darchandarchan7036]

asrocks matx boards being nicer than atx. good old clunky asrock, pls never change

[@Psi-Storm]

Yes, the 6 (2x3) phase pro4 delivers 150W for the cpu. It will run everything fine as long as you don't try to oc a 3900x/3950x.

[@takemebacktothen]

The B550M steel legend and B550m Pro4 have the same pcb except for the vrm part

[@maik-beckmann]

Gamers Nexus talked about the cost of X570 chipset being around 50 USD. Given the prices of MSI and Gigabyte B550 boards, I derive that the B550 chipset won't be pennies either. That B550M-HDV is probably around 100 USD, I fear. Edit: X570 -> X570 chipset

[@blackmennewstyle]

These boards are even better than their X570 counterparts, i thought B450/550 were supposed to be budget AM4 motherboards, it looks like B550 did not receive the memo lol

[@mrlithium69]

yes. this worries me. Im sitting here wondering why Im wanting to upgrade my X570 Phantom Gaming 4 to these. I just really hope my X570 has just as long of longevity in bios support and they dont try to claim 2 gens from now that B550 > X570 because of the delay.

[@chrcoluk]

maybe the b450 boards had better margins so didnt need cost cutbacks for next gen? but yeah lol

[@The117th]

Tbh the only reason I won't switch my X570 Taichi to the B550 is the lack of thunderbolt 3 support which I kinda need cause otherwise the board is basically as good but with better vrm and networking etc only no TB3 support even though there is room in the board for a header

[@deminybs]

@@The117th I don't use thunderbolt but I also have the x570 Taichi, anyone that's already on x570 and wants to go to b550.....WHY??? It's basically x570 without PCI-E 4.0 support . why some people will downgrade just because something "newer" was released is beyond me

[@smilingbandit6900]

@@mrlithium69 look at the m.2 slots. x570 ftw!

[@MsCMC3]

MSI and Asrock seems to have made great B550 motherboards that are well feature Gigabyte and ASUS is missing front USB-C for most of their line up but has pretty good power layout (though i am not an expert) like MSI-A PRO seem like the budget board to get if it actually is "cheap"

[@L0rdk1d98]

Msi already realized some of the price of their boards. I think for that MSI A-PRO the price is 139$ , or a little bit more expensive because i’m from europe . But indeed the both msi a-pro and asrock b550m pro 4 looks like interesting “cheap” b550 boards

[@Tyanu_Khah]

I'm genuinely surprised that people are all over MSI, gigabyte and ASUS and ASrock is still not widely known, despite being a good brand for so many years.

[@mahnamejeff7586]

@@Tyanu_Khah not really. ASRock has had pretty bad boards in general, sparing a few. It's not that ASRock isn't known, it's just that ASRock isn't trusty. Maybe they can make a comeback with B550s.

[@ikra]

@@mahnamejeff7586 Hi have an ASROCK at the moment and I regret not getting the opposite MSI B450i instead. It's such a crappy board performance wise (memory clocks).

[@Adam-dm3ij]

11:35 Don't AMD processors have 20 PCIe lanes?

[@LinkStorm13]

I'm also pretty sure about that. I even heare that they are capable of 24 PCIe lanes

[@smilingbandit6900]

yes one 16x for gpu one 4x for ssd or whatever and 4xlanes to the chipset

[@namankohli1061]

@@LinkStorm13 4x for connecting to chipset connection, 16x gpu,4x usually nvme or sometimes SATA additions

[@mainly_dyutish9]

@@smilingbandit6900 yup

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

Pretty sure based on other manufacturer's prices that Buildzoid is underestimating the pricing on these boards by quite a bit. The cheapest of these will be around $100 not $60. I wish he was right though.

[@plonk420]

re: 2.5G LAN, you could probably just connect 2 boxes with 2.5G together and run iperf. i don't even wanna know how expensive 2.5G+ switches cost

[@frijin490]

I'll pull the trigger on B550 Taichi.

[@siyangqiu1]

Sounds like Asrock put an intern on z490 and their actual resources on B550. Honestly not that surprising tbh... in the enthusiast market where these boards go, AMD is massively outselling Intel.

[@Peterowsky]

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

[@kovski8310]

That seriously sucks if true.

[@Azraleee]

@@kovski8310 Asrock is a company and these boards will outsell Z490 by far. Nobody but the XOC guys really cares about Z490.

[@DanteLovesPizza]

Yeah, but Intel still earning way more profit than AMD. The builder's market is small, the OEM market is huge and Intel by far still dominates the OEM market. Who cares that the Z490 sucks? Who even cares about the brands inside an OEM machine? OEM buyers don't. The salespeople just have to bull crap their way, "it has a Z490, the top end motherboard for this, blah blah blah" and boom, a sucky ASRock motherboard versus a premium ASUS motherboard inside it won't make a difference. On the opposite, if it was the other around, good Intel motherboard, sucky AMD motherboard, that would hurt profits. As it stands, ASRock don't really need to care that their Z490s suck, as long as OEM buys them, they're fine.

[@despoder1558]

All the Extreame4, PG Velotica and Steel legend are all identical

[@SteveAkaDarktimes]

they really should just put them into their own overarching board class and present them as alternative style packages.

[@Todestelzer]

There are not identical but similar. If you check them right there are differences. But he didn’t spot them. Velotica has a heat pipe for example. Good for water cooled systems with minor airflow.

[@PickleSir]

11:34 AMD Ryzen CPUs get 4 dedicated NVMe lanes, so these boards with a GPU and an M.2 in the top slot will get full 16 from CPU to GPU and 4 from CPU to storage. Pretty sure the second SSD is chipset.

[@PickleSir]

@CAZIBOY the Only downside is the chipset's limited bandwidth. If you were doing some mass read or write on a bunch of SATA SSDs at the same time, the 665p would have some reduced performance, but the 970 evo and GPU would remain at full bandwidth. But that's never really gonna happen in a gaming PC and if you're transferring from your main drive to a secondary drive it's all good.

[@alexusman]

8:30 Lol, everything went so well and then Intel 2.5G LAN shows up. The newest one that's broken. Unless they have different older ones. (upd: nvm, Intel said they fixed the bug and supply fixed silicon now) 25:54 The point of this one is it's different color from Extreme4. Welcome to ASRock.

[@NicolaiSyvertsen]

Until there are mass availability of cheap 2.5G switches and routers with 2.5G ports instead of 1 gigabit then motherboards coming with that is pointless imo. Faster than gigabit ports has been a thing on motherboards for a while now but there is still no switch vendors coming out with really cheap ones almost as cheap as their existing gigabit switches because 2.5G at this point isn't that much more expensive. They can reduce the price if they want. They are just still sitting on the fence because I bet the switch vendors still think faster than gigabit for the plebians of us is pointless meanwhile motherboard vendors can use it as some kind of selling point gimmick. And the cheapest switches and routers still target small businesses and not consumer level pricing. So you buy a gaming motherboard with 2.5G LAN and then you have to hit up business class vendors to complete your networking? That just doesn't make sense to me.

[@mantownmedia78]

I posted on your other video - B550 Aorus Master - mouse lag. I was frustrated with the B550 Aorus Master - mouse issue and decided to return it for this board. It had the same issue - and I found that in my case - UNINSTALLING the AMD Adenalin software with a clean Windows 10 build solve my mouse lag issues. I ended up choosing this B550 Taichi and it is working well for me. So, I am blaming the mouse lag issue on the AMD software :)

[@bayanzabihiyan7465]

Let's be real, these motherboard companies are probably selling and expected to sell much more AMD motherboards than intel options since it's the DIY market. On one hand you have 10th gen Intel with expensive motherboards. On the otherhand, you have upcoming renoir APU, 3rd Gen Ryzen, and future Ryzen CPUs that will make these boards sell like hotcakes. Honestly I firmly believe that this will be the last motherboard generation for AM4. Makes no sense for 600 series boards to exist when the next generation will surely move on to DDR5.

[@bencemarta5222]

Around 11:30 you made a little mistake. AMD CPUs have 24 PCIe lanes: 16 (to PCIe slots) + 4 (usually top M.2) + 4 (to Chipset)

[@megatherium100]

There seems to be an electronic hiss in your audio(probably fan noise), I recommend you use a high pass filter in post in the sub 100Hz range, probably a de-hummer too in your DAW if you have it.

[@topmech71]

That's what asrock is banking they're money on is the B550 platform with support for ryzen 3rd gen and further.

[@benjamin-jp5ff]

I thought the ryzen 3000 cpus had 24 pcie lanes ? 4 for the chipset 4 for the nvme and 16 for for pcie (usually first pcie slot).

[@NovaDoll]

I can’t wait to you do gigabytes B550 line.

[@robindis6274]

Me niether 🤤

[@NovaDoll]

Robin Ødis if it has thunderbolt header I’m sold. $279. That board is a steal.

[@floorgang420]

@@NovaDoll What will you do with thunderbolt? Just curious.

[@gabrielferrazdetetivehardware]

The B550 AOrus Master has the exact VRM as the X570 Aorus Xtreme, using the same PWM(XPDE132G5C in 14+2 mode) with Infineon TDA21742 70A.

[@dveydah]

@@NovaDoll As you rightly pointed out in the MSI video, the B550 is a strange decision 2 years before the EoL - & I should add: at these prices that compete directly with x570 boards.

[@vollhorst140]

Press F for more USB-Ports. I really like these kind of videos.

[@FreihEitner]

Finally, some decent-looking mATX for Ryzen 3000 series! I've been waiting 11 months for this.

[@milchkopf3881]

41:50 ITX board

[@BlackCubone]

Ty

[@Starscreamious]

Thanks!

[@aliancemd]

I’ve been waiting for B550 videos

[@kennyd7667]

I love asrocks b450 motherboards, particularly the b450m pro 4 and b450m steel legend and I feel that asrock really care about their AMD motherboards unlike with their Z490 intel motherboards. Glad to see they kept up with their trend of good AMD motherboards. If I didn't already have my b450m pro 4 I would have bought on these Asrock boards, particularly the b550m steel legend.

[@neko77025]

they did not want to spend money z490 ... they knew it would not sale ... but did not want to piss off intel ...

[@CaptainShiny5000]

Having a decent option for an mATX board already on the first B550 video is a relieve. I plan on keeping my mATX case when I upgrade to an AMD platform and this looks rather promising with lots of USB and 6 SATA connections and decent power delivery.

[@smilingbandit6900]

but look at the m.2 slots. 1 pcie 4x4 and 1 pcie3x2 and you loose sata ports imo.

[@CaptainShiny5000]

@@smilingbandit6900 Well, I don't need everything at once - as it stands I have 2x 120GB SSDs, 2x 4GB drives and one DVD drive which I still need every once in a while.

[@smilingbandit6900]

@@CaptainShiny5000 ok i just bought everything new ran core2quad was time^^ but think 1 year later and another m.2 but with the break on. i dont like it. good luck and have fun

[@tkpenalty]

Yep as I thought Z490 got shafted by Asrock

[@smilingbandit6900]

or not enough credits to go around^^

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

20:10 they removed the buttons (shrugs). doesn't matter, can't see the Postcode or reach the buttons anyway there under the PCIe cards. That stuff should be up near the memory. lol. What was that phrase "and nothing of value was lost", lol.

[@chrcoluk]

board manufacturers go round in circles. They make a good board, then a bad board, then a good board. It is like this I expect. "sales poor" ok add diagnostics led, power/reset buttons on board, full sized board without cutoffs, intel NIC, decent VRM. "sales good,so we drawn in the customers, now to get the margins up." remove diagnostics led, remove power/reset buttons, cut backs on VRM, cut down width of board, so end of it is hanging off, realtek NIC. "sales poor" start again....

[@neilbeaumont2820]

same situation we had with crappy b350, manufacturers putting effort into what they will sell. sales for z490 will be paltry in the enthusiast market. AMD users are getting the benefit of scale

[@0Wayland]

Congrats on 100K subs!

[@Cheese-n-Cake16]

This proves is that ASRock thinks that Z490 will be a flop and B550 to be a hit

[@plonk420]

"just don't buy B450 unless you're desperate" ...i just don't want to spend an extra $50-70 on PCI-E 4 -_-

[@William-Morey-Baker]

You get more than that... Also, good luck buying B450 at even close to MSRP... All the good boards are either out of stock, or WAY more expensive than they should be

[@miniweeddeerz1820]

@@William-Morey-Baker you really don't get more than that. Anyway as long as the b450 is cheaper than the b550, b450 is still viable for those buying 3rd gen still. If it's the same price, ofc buy the b550

[@filipbunalti]

We seem to take for granted that Intel GbE NIC is better than Realtek GbE NIC. But is there any measurable/repeatable difference between the two? And will that impact a normal home-user in any way?

[@Jhakaro]

No. It really won't. Big businesses and lots of data transfer you may want the more reliable connection just in case but for 99% of people in every day use cases, you won't notice any difference as far as I know.

[@nero1612]

1:01:31 b450 Mortar Max in a nutshell

[@plonk420]

except that this is probably 3 phases with twice the mosfets (just like their B350 and B450 Pro4s) instead of Mortar's 4 phases with twice the mosfets (and lower RDS(on) of 3.0mΩ vs Asrock's 5.3mΩ on B350/450). fingers crossed that they used better mosfets, but i'm not holding my breath

[@nero1612]

@@plonk420 Oh yeah for sure, but I was referring to the Mortar compared to the Tomahawk

[@plonk420]

@@nero1612 Tomahawk is even better (slightly) than the Mortar with 2.8 mΩ mosfets. either way, they seem to be at least 33% better than the Asrock if they're the same as B350/B450 Pro4s. hopefully the B550 Pro4 has better mosfets, tho i'm not expecting it to.

[@nero1612]

@@plonk420 I didn't know they had different mosfets, but the b450 Mortar has 2 more usb in the rear I/O and one more M.2 than the b450 Tomahawk, which I thought was strange considering the first is a mini ATX and where I live it costs even less. Than again the b550 variants seems to make more sense.

[@diviumfuror]

Im surprised that BZ didn't roast PG4 55:50 for "XXL Aluminium Alloy Heatsink" marketing. Don't look that XXL to me.

[@Act1veSp1n]

When B550 is nicer than X570(no fan, 2.5G lan)....ughhh

[@cartmann227]

Imagine Buildzoid being a vampire. Interesting 🤔

[@robindis6274]

He is, but instead of blood, he sucks juice out of VRMS 🧛

[@bananya6020]

@@robindis6274 he also breathes the magic smoke from dead/dying graphics cards :P

[@raawesome3851]

Can you cover Msi and Gigabyte motherboards?

[@alexhere1]

16 phase VRMs on boards for Ryzen 3-5-7 is such unnecessary overkill, and the price these boards will go for is not going to be that different from comparable X570 boards. Who will be buying those instead of X570? Why would I buy B550 Taichi over X570 Taichi if they're gonna cost about the same? The 2 additional phases won't make any meaningful difference. 2.5G LAN and no chipset fan? Meh.

[@totoro5639]

The Ryzen 3000 series with B550 are not 16 lanes of PCI-E from the CPU. You have 20 lanes of PCI-E 4.0 going from the CPU to a 16x slot for the GPU, and 4 lanes for NVME, additionally you have 4 lanes going to the chipset (that is to say a total 24 lanes from the CPU, of which 4 are for the chipset and sadly operating at 3.0 speeds due to the chipset)

[@nathangamble125]

23:35 I think it's interesting that boards are advertising support for desktop Renoir before AMD has even announced it. We all knew it was coming, but it still seems a bit odd that they're getting ahead of AMD on confirming that desktop Renoir exists.

[@bananya6020]

maybe if they all say it then they can force amd into doing it lol

[@STR33TSofJUST1C3]

From an mATX perspective, the B550M Steel Legend seems like a good option. And it probably would've been a good option, if it didn't share the same MSRP as the MSI B550M Mortar. The only thing the Steel Legend offers over the Mortar is two extra USB's in the rear I/O. The Mortar offers better VRM's, larger heatsinks, front USB-C (and for $10 you get Wi-Fi). You may not need these features, but since they're priced the same: "Why the hell not?" Feels like a missed opportunity from AsRock. Gigabyte's mATX lineup is a joke, and AsRock could've capitalized on that by pricing the Steel Legend equal to the B550M Elite.

[@807800]

So, the Steel Legends are $180 & 155, Extreme 4 is $185, That's nice I guess.

[@akmalism]

Im waiting for the disappointment VRM pcb break downs of B550^^

[@AvatarSampai]

So how much would an top tier b550 board cost?

[@tanishqbhaiji103]

You will care about ram speed when Renoir APUs launch

[@NovaDoll]

The thumbs down ate from the people with an attention span of a toddler.

[@tomquimby8669]

I like to fin cooling gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro hope you can look at those soon ;)

[@albal156]

Maybe they saved enough money on the materials for MATX to put more USB ports on?

[@gabrielferrazdetetivehardware]

Hey guys one question, what does the Vcc/SA and Vcc/IO provide "power" to? Because i've heard a bunch of confliction information, saying the System agent powers the IMC, and the IO power the IMC, but i couldn't reach to a conclusion. I also know that Vcc/IO apparently divides into 2 variants like Vcc/IO-D and another one i cant remember. But exactly what does the system agent powers? And what about the Vcc/IOs?

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

M.2 WiFi gum-stick between PCIe slots on the board. it is a junk location to run the antenna wires under the GPU up to the IO backplate.

[@unitedfools3493]

No it isn't it makes no difference.

[@ChrisGR93_TxS]

yeah. . it's stupid.

[@MirelRC]

Asrock presents B550 Taichi. Intel: Bruh...

[@markvanfahrenberg]

Asrock Steel legend = +Displayport ! -Power/Reset sw , -Heatpipe , 2X Sata Cabel. In Germay = 185€ Vs Asrock PG Velocita = - Displayport ! +Power/Reset sw, +Heatpipe , 4X Sata Cabel. In Germany = 219€

[@MagicianMan]

Worth taking a look at the Gigabyte Aorus Master & Pro B550? www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/gigabyte_b550_aorus_master_preview/2 Rumoured pricing for some Gigabyte/MSI motherboards - couldn't find AsRock costs, Asus had theirs removed from articles. MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK ~ $219.99 (BH Photo) Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master ~ $279 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro ~ $129 MSI Gaming Carbon Wifi ~ $219 MSI B550-A Pro ~ $139 Gigabyte B550M DS3H ~ $94 MSI B550M Pro-Dash ~ $119

[@AudiophileTommy]

ALL the MSI b550 motherboards are up and have been for a while

[@ChaitanyaShukla2503]

I am not sure of pricing from Asrock so cannot comment about that. In India Asus has officially announced their pricing for B550 line up and their entire B550 line up is more expensive than their equivalent X570 motherboards. If Asrock also follows the same trend as Asus them these B550 boards are big Meh. For eg.: B550 Strix E is INR 33700, while X570 Strix E is 31500. B550 TUF gaming is INR 19000 while X570 TUF gaming is around 17800.

[@DanteLovesPizza]

31:58 "...you wouldn't be buying B450 boards for 3000 series CPUs, unless you were extremely desperate... um... in which case, you know, like... uh... well... still don't do that in my opinion. Just buy a cheap B550 in that case instead." Thank you for saying it. I've been saying this long before I watched this video, but no one seems to listen. Almost shocking how many people in forums, such as PCPartPicker STILL pair 3600 with a B450 Tomahawk MAX. It's like they watched the B450 Tomahawk paired with Ryzen 3950X a year ago, been told B450 is good enough for the 3950X, X570 is unnecessary (which I don't agree with to a large extent) and just used that basis for a year later when the B550s are out. Honestly, I think one of the things large tech reviewer channels need to do today is to clarify this "B450 for Ryzen 3000" comment they made a year ago. Yes, a year ago, for a 3600, a B450 was a good choice, but today, no, a B550 is superior in almost every way for like $20 more than their B450 counterpart. It's obvious, without being explicitly informed, i.e. without a video titled CHOOSE B550 OVER B450, people are still being led by the comment made a year ago.

[@nubbins70]

Buildzoid so right now there have been some photos of the VRM on the microATX Steel Legend. It does have 8+2 50A SiC654s that are on the X570 PG-X, but the rest of the VRM I'm not so sure about the quality. PWM is a 4+2 uP9505S, and the Vcore doublers are uP1911Rs. These doublers seem to have been around a while on the expensive Poseidon 1080 Ti, but I can't find anything else about them. Are they "dumb" doublers? The other ASRock 500-series boards with 50A Vishays end up with the new Renesas controller and ISL6617 doublers, so I was somewhat disappointed to see the B550M Steel Legend using these uPI parts. I've got this board on the way and just wanted to make sure that this analog PWM and obscure doublers aren't cause for concern for 12- and 16-core usage.

[@subrezon]

I've read somewhere that AsRock decided to go all-in on AMD, that's why their AM4 boards have been that good since B450, and why their Intel lineups have been an afterthought. Apparently they made much more money in the last couple quarters than usual this way.

[@givemeajackson]

Their x470 an b450 boards were all garbage except the taichi, what are you on about? The only one that was a worthwhile consideration was the b450 pro 4, not cause it was good, but it was a mediocre board amongst a sea of complete garbage in the super budget price range

[@subrezon]

@@givemeajackson Pro4 is good, Steel Legend is better than Tomahawk IMO (because it has M.2 slots and USB ports unlike Tomahawk), Taichis were okay, X570 lineup is one of the better ones. Compared to Asus and Gigabyte, who only really got it on X570, AsRock's AM4 boards have only been second to MSI up until X570

[@woofwoof7226]

@@subrezon Pro4 Intel is very good. what are you talking about?

[@subrezon]

@@woofwoof7226 I used to own Z370 Extreme4, which would be a piece of garbage even if it worked properly. CPUs were unstable on it stock (!!!) if you has C-States enabeled. It had unstable LAN and extremely noisy audio (despite all of the marketing claims). My friend has a 9700k which does 5,3 GHz on water, it didn't do 5,0 on the Extreme4. And this board is "one of the better ones" out there from AsRock.

[@marshallschaffer3721]

BZ, how about some (gasp) Infographics, instead of crawling over the boards one-by-one? You are undoubtedly knowledgeable, but you ramble badly. You shouldn't make videos when you have been up all night. I'm almost tempted to make a video about your video...with the information presented efficiently. Have you read Edward Tufte's classic, "The Visual Design of Quantitative Information?"

[@Fenix1861]

Your assessment of the Phantom Gaming ITX board surprised me. You didn’t mention that it was missing Clear CMOS button, BIOS Flashback, and PS/2 combo port. With the benefit of seeing the initial launch price of $200 USD, I would be forced to disagree with you. The board is unacceptably priced for the features provided.

[@ncarrasco2006]

I have a Ryzen 5950x with an ASRock B550M PRO4. Do you believe it is better I upgrade the motherboard if I do not overclock ? But have intensive workloads ? Thanks

[@MMikedd]

I have the B550 Pro4 and whenever I try to increase the ghz on my Trident gskill 3600 mhz to 3600ghz... my pc won't boot. The default was set at 2133 mhz. I ended up setting it at 3200 mhz and it is able to boot now :( Wondering if anyone else has the same problem or could shed some light. I used the XMP profile and even manually put in the advertised speed. My CPU is the Ryzen 3600.

[@TheBackyardChemist]

If I may put my tinfoil hat on for a second... 8:45 of course Intel is more than happy to see their broken Foxville 2,5G NIC chips on an AMD board, guess who the consumers will blame when their first AMD PC in 10 years suffers from random massive lag spikes in multiplayer games, due to the broken NIC dropping packets? Yeah people will go "AMD lags hard and I die in fortnit, AMD cheap shit", cos they dont even know what packet loss is. Nice trojan horse NIC Intel... I would not be surprised if Intel told Asrock "hey, if you buy our Wifi 6 card, we will throw in our 2,5G NIC chips for free", I mean Intel must have tens or hundreds of thousands of broken NIC chips that they need to somehow get rid of, and dumping them on the market "for free" probably looks better in the books than just writing the entire inventory off. Plus they get to drive wifi chipset sales with the bundling. And if AMD platforms get sabotaged, thats an added bonus...

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

I'm guessing ASRock is fully aware of the issues, and has either made sure they have received fixed chips, or will last-minute switch to Realtek chips, even if it means delaying shipping that board model. Of course I could be wrong... I guess we'll see here in a couple weeks.

[@aexandereung5686]

Intel's networking department will be fine, CPU dept will be pretty salty

[@nolang702]

why does asrock design the most beautiful motherboards

[@PlaAwa]

lots of confusion. can't find it right now but there was some issue with x amount of mosfets sharing the same heatsink? i've seen quite a few vids recently saying that you can get by without a heatsink anyway. and then bz was complaining about heatsink fans also being redundant. plus, the more 'phases' as in sets of mosfets per phase, let more dissipated the workload, innit? so what's the problem with the size of this heatsink and how many physical phase sets have to share it? if you're cynical to the point that you automatically complain about everything it only causes confusion. on a similar note, the worst thing to complain about is over-engineering, which is something that consumers need more of. don't worry about the manufacturer's cost or that it may be redundant. the fact is, even if whatever it is will never be used, it will probably add extra reliability in some way.

[@shawnpitman876]

Pssst, BZ... This is related to ASROCK Velocita video you made for GN and not this one...but 3 pin fan connectors aren't proprietary. Those are just DC controlled fans rather than PWM ones. I can buy literally countless fans at my local computer shop with 3 pin headers on them.

[@teamlary]

Hey guys I’m new to pc building. I just ordered the Velocita 550 mobo. I actually have a tuf gaming x570 but it’s been taking a dump on me. Is the velocita good? I paid 220$ for it lol

[@MagicianMan]

You talk about the Mem Clock - Infinity Fabric 2:1 Latency. Do we yet know if the next Zen 4000 Desktop cpu improves this, therefore higher RAM speed might be a factor?

[@TheJBftw]

Yes definitely. On my 3600X currently can run Fabric clock 1866Mhz (oc) and RAM 3733Mhz. I'd expect next 3600XT or 4600 to achieve ~1900mhz so RAM speeds of 3800 will be feasible.

[@edwinunknown]

Hi guys, I would like to know what would be better or more optimal, buy a cheap B550 ($ 90-110) or a B450 with an average price like $ 100-110?

[@MrSkull-zx8ob]

I'm on vampire mode aswell 😁.

[@laureanoalfaro9351]

Hi, I own both itx boards. When Bullzoid was talking about the budget one, the B550M, if I've understood correctly, he thinks that maybe would be better adding little heatsinks like this: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61ZMi3-xcPL._AC_SL1500_.jpg What I'm confused about, it's if the way to go is putting them above the heatsing already installed or to take away the original heatsink and put this sort of little ones directly, I don't know either if the ones of the image I've put here are fine. I have a bunch of them that I've used with a VGA. Thanks in advance from anyone that got it better than me. PD: I might even search for an old mobo I have somewhere and see if its heatsink can be adapt to replace the original one on the B550m.

[@mattjamieson1983]

Why are people going on about how B550 is better having a passively cooled chipset over x570's actively cooled chipset ? Saying the fan WILL die one day... Why is this all of a sudden an issue ???

[@alcorex8409]

dosnt matter how good/bad the taichi gonna be i will buy that

[@felixjschaefer]

Same Taichi-brother!

[@takeshi7]

The most disappointing aspect of the B550 chipset to me is that the link between the CPU and chipset is only PCIe 3.0 instead of 4.0. A single NVMe drive will saturate it.

[@haukionkannel]

Takeshi7 that is the difference you pay between x570 and b550. If you only need one m2ssd b550 is fine. If you need more, go. For x570. So yeah...

[@Fee.1]

I wish you would respond to my emails from 37 years ago....you could be so much “bigger” than you are. Not like “popularity” wise just as a viable tech content maker. I’d argue you really need a website as well. Can we please just develop a proper business plan and get all this going? As long as you do it right you don’t need to invest that much more time to do any of this, you just need to be willing to chat with your team a couple times a week.

[@hubert-williams3379]

Hey BZ, I have an idea... why don't you build a motherboard to your specs.. and let us critique it...:>))))

[@night_h4nter]

B550 Taichi is $300 on Newegg. Just exactly the same as x570 Taichi. WTF ASrock?

[@ArpanMukhopadhyay93]

You are underestimating B550 prices!

[@zero0816]

This guy knows his stuff

[@CDGG36]

Wtf with the post code? Regular people dont use it not even once in their life. It cant be something THAT important on every reveiw, and i like your reviews, but sometimes you just sound too cocky

[@AlBr80]

So, do you really believe that 8-phase/50A boards have a 6-phase Vcore, rather than 3 super-powerful dual phases?

[@christopherjackson2157]

Re Intel lan in the taichi: I remember I remember there was something buggy with 2.5 gig Intel adapter around this time and most of the board partners ordered realtek instead. I wonder if asrock got a deal on surplus stock lol. That would be pretty asrock of asrock lol

[@skerlone]

How many real VRM phases in phantom gaming 4 and pro4? they have 6 phase core VRM phases or they have 3 phases doubled?

[@materialburst983]

not many options here in Mexico,. Can I run a 2600 as a placeholder on b550 before the Zen 3 bios?

[@FatedVion]

How do you feel about the 5950x with the phantom gaming 4 b550?

[@Iamnicknow]

Im really interested in that B550 Taichi. Its a really good board for a “budget” chipset and just shows how far AMD has come.

[@berryseng8967]

Asrock's B550m-HDV with 3300X? what do u think.

[@eugkra33]

Weird how they want to save money on the VRM heatsink, but then slap a piece of aluminum on top of the NVME.