First impressions of Gigabyte's B550 motherboard lineup

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Actually Hardcore Overclocking

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@ebsmith1102
@ebsmith1102 4 жыл бұрын
1:13 B550 Aorus Master 10:04 B550 Aorus Vision D 12:48 B550 Aorus Pro 19:41 B550 Aorus Elite 27:58 B550I Aorus Pro AX 31:44 B550M Aorus Pro 35:55 B550M Aorus Elite 41:04 B550 Gaming X 43:05 B550M DS3H 47:40 Final Ramblings
@biniu3206
@biniu3206 4 жыл бұрын
Doing god's work
@kokilagunasinghe2186
@kokilagunasinghe2186 4 жыл бұрын
Pitek agreed
@SeeTheWholeTruth
@SeeTheWholeTruth 4 жыл бұрын
Close, not quite...There was all of a minute for the Gaming X.
@MindaugasSnegirevas
@MindaugasSnegirevas 4 жыл бұрын
What's with the Elite having ONLY FRONT FACING SATA PORTS???????
@deogracias8562
@deogracias8562 4 жыл бұрын
king
@baggle8203
@baggle8203 4 жыл бұрын
26:00 reopen a tab in chrome by doing ctrl+shift+T
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 4 жыл бұрын
Was coming to post the same thing :)
@zalomalo
@zalomalo 4 жыл бұрын
Also you can right-clic outside any tab and it is.
@ole7736
@ole7736 4 жыл бұрын
Also open link in new tab with middle mouse.
@YTHandlesWereAMistake
@YTHandlesWereAMistake 4 жыл бұрын
WolfMan also in firefox and it’s derivatives. Safari? Cmd+Shift+T iirc Not sure about edge/IE but probably too
@TheLshallo
@TheLshallo 4 жыл бұрын
Open in new tab is also CTRL+Click on Link
@theunholybakery1990
@theunholybakery1990 4 жыл бұрын
The ramble is strong in this one.
@adamkowalczyk9791
@adamkowalczyk9791 4 жыл бұрын
Hes wrong in many aspects 1.Ryzen have 20 cpu lanes so you can have 4x nvme pcie4 and 16x gpu 2.2080ti would be less affected by chopping pcie bandwidth than gpu with less memory 3. More flexible pcie potrs are actually advantage but it seems not for bz
@miniweeddeerz1820
@miniweeddeerz1820 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamkowalczyk9791 I mean you both are wrong. Ryzen has 24 lanes so when you use the second m.2 slot that's when the GPU goes to x8.
@jackgleeson8321
@jackgleeson8321 4 жыл бұрын
We gathered here today to figure out why a 270 dollar Aorus Master is missing a bios switch.
@tomstech4390
@tomstech4390 4 жыл бұрын
According to overclock.net probably subject to change. Gigabyte: B550 AORUS MASTER 16-phases[14+2] | Infineon TDA21472 70A, PWM: Infineon XDPE132G5C(16-phase), PCB: 2oz 6-Layer B550 AORUS PRO (and AC) 14-phase[12+2]* | Vishay Dr.MOS SiC651C/SiC651ACD 50A, PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 6-Layer, 5K caps *doubler(ISL6617A) B550 VISION D 14-phase[12+2]* | Vishay Dr.MOS SiC651C/SiC651ACD 50A, PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 6-Layer *doubler(ISL6617A). Aluminium block, instead of heatsink. B550 AORUS ELITE 14-phase[12+2]* | Vishay Dr.MOS SiC651C/SiC651ACD 50A, PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 4-Layer *doubler(ISL6617A) Same vrms as above except caps and aluminium heatsink instead of finned heatsink stack. I like this or the pro. B550 GAMING X 13-phase[10+3]* | OnSemi 4C10N/4C06N[1x1], PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 4-Layer *doubler(ISL6617A) Lots of phases but using weak onsemi discrete mosfets. B550I AORUS PRO AX ITX 8-phase[6+2] | Intersil Dr.MOS 99390 90A, PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 8-Layer B550M AORUS PRO 13-phase[10+3]* | OnSemi 4C10N/4C06N[1x1], PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 4-Layer *doubler(ISL6617A) And the rest you can ignore B550M AORUS ELITE (Unless there are mosfets on the back, there could be something we dont know, I cant imagine elite being actually bad, we shall see) B550M GAMING B550M DS3H (and AC) B550M H B550M S2H All use 8-phase[5+3] | OnSemi 4C10N/4C06N[1x2+1x1], PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 4-Layer
@rigg718
@rigg718 4 жыл бұрын
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SygLRanxx6LiYVmDoIIX866r2rJEmUTG-16sjX7EBz0/edit#gid=1652629489
@mahnamejeff7586
@mahnamejeff7586 4 жыл бұрын
@Immortal the Mortar is easily the best option on there.
@gamertechlive1780
@gamertechlive1780 3 жыл бұрын
The b550 vision D vrm side heatsink is indeed flat but thick and large well there is no fins unlike the top vrm heatsink. BUT there is a copper heatpipe that connect this two heatsink. I remove mine months ago I noticed a copper pipe connecting both vrm heatsink which is good since the left heatsink has 0 fins. ALSO did a OC on my ryzen 3700x Vrm max temp is 45 degrees mostly in 41 to 42 degree but 45 degree at 12 noon and it's a tropical country but since it's December ambient temp is 29-31
@ritwick3625
@ritwick3625 4 жыл бұрын
Buildzoid rambling about not having the bios switch is like Gordan ramsey rambling about lamb sauce
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 4 жыл бұрын
Where's the fucking *BIOS switch* ?
@0Wayland
@0Wayland 4 жыл бұрын
Love these impression videos, thanks BZ!
@grantwelsh1438
@grantwelsh1438 4 жыл бұрын
Undo close tab: Crtl + Shift + T :)
@Alexandra-Rex
@Alexandra-Rex 4 жыл бұрын
And it works for all browsers too, AFAIK.
@stargazer8225
@stargazer8225 4 жыл бұрын
@Buildzoid: When you finish reviews of all motherboard vendors, could you make a review like top 10 B550 mobos in your opinion or what mobo would you recommend for each price category? Thanks.
@williamlau7179
@williamlau7179 4 жыл бұрын
And b550 vs x570 for same budgets. For similar design features, I will go for x570
@angumech13
@angumech13 4 жыл бұрын
20:48 How did you confirmed they were 4 and 6 layer PCBs by looking at the top left corner?
@807800
@807800 4 жыл бұрын
7:00 Ryzen CPU has a total of 24 lanes. -16 for GPU -4 for NVME -4 for the chipset. With one NVME, you still got a full x16 lanes.
@samman7710
@samman7710 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with u
@thevisi0naryy
@thevisi0naryy 4 жыл бұрын
Question because a lot of this stuff is lost on me. With a vision d, If I have 1 x nvme for system drive at pcie4, 1 x nvme at Pcie 3, 1 x sata ssd, will I lose Pcie 4 on the x16 slot?
@Dantheman_1942
@Dantheman_1942 4 жыл бұрын
25:47 off topic, but at least for me I can right click on the top of chrome where there are no tabs and the menu displays a "reopen closed tab" option as well as ctrl+shift+t. It used to be on the tabs themselves before I think but google is stupid and likes changing things for the sake of making it different and worse
@bananya6020
@bananya6020 4 жыл бұрын
don't trust google to make good products, they are very consumer-unfriendly and just want your data (money) now. their new "designs" are just for the sake of bringing something new and are unusable, and their push for the shitty "material" bs is sickening. also, if you use an old version of their apps that actually works, they use planned/forced obselescence to force you to a new one, even though the old one works just fine. (oh, and then they block you from installing modified versions of the app)
@krausshusha2694
@krausshusha2694 4 жыл бұрын
5:20 I can tell just how frustrated Buildzoid gets by how many times he backtracks and says "like..." lol
@seriousgamerplays
@seriousgamerplays 4 жыл бұрын
It was hilarious XD
@modellbahn9447
@modellbahn9447 4 жыл бұрын
Would love a in depth of the Vision-D. I know you are more into overclocking features, I read this somewhere, but all this (Not) Thunderbolt stuff is interesting. I would like to understand. Also noticed the TB connectors on some boards, which were TRX only, if I'm right.
@NovaDoll
@NovaDoll 4 жыл бұрын
Modellbahn the vision D has on board thunderbolt 3. That’s why I want it. It will cost 259
@xXDESTINYMBXx
@xXDESTINYMBXx 4 жыл бұрын
@@NovaDoll I paid 285 for it, the life when you life on a high price Island QQ
@VIKASHKUMAR-xz1tc
@VIKASHKUMAR-xz1tc 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a detailed video on b550 vision d
@georgelizotte2821
@georgelizotte2821 2 жыл бұрын
I as well would like that 8f not a comparison vid.
@pushpaknikoses1
@pushpaknikoses1 4 жыл бұрын
exactly the video i was looking for
@Qyngali
@Qyngali 4 жыл бұрын
At 18:12 you are hovering the mouse over "PWM doublers" lol.
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 4 жыл бұрын
I was very confused how he missed that while trying to work out whether the VRM uses doublers.
@sirmonkey1985
@sirmonkey1985 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathangamble125 yeah i was yelling at my monitor while he was hovering over it.. he did a similar thing in another video but he caught it after the second board he looked at but this time nope.
@mamuf
@mamuf 4 жыл бұрын
...or just click the HUGE "Power Architecture" label... I know these websites are crazy, but they offer a lot if you are willing to look for it.
@herpaderpy888
@herpaderpy888 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, there are some M.2 SSDs that are designed to run in PCI-E 3.0 x2, and I had a Samsung PM961 SSD that I bought off eBay that was cracked, which broke internal traces and caused it to run in 3.0 x2 rather than PCIE x4. Edit: also, undo closed tab on chrome is Ctrl+Shift+T, or up in the tab area right click and select the undo option.
@LA-MJ
@LA-MJ 4 жыл бұрын
Undo closed tab is Ctrl+Shift+T. Also use middle mouse button for opening links in new tab. The same on reload btn duplicates tab
@maxclaire732
@maxclaire732 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Buildzoid is the best!
@rubensturibio8766
@rubensturibio8766 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for MSI B550s lineup review 👏👏👏
@avagreen9060
@avagreen9060 4 жыл бұрын
B550 vids when???? They’ve been out for multiple days now BZ!!1!!1!!!!111!!! /s (just in case lol)
@ebsmith1102
@ebsmith1102 4 жыл бұрын
ASRock sent a 🧀 zoid to take out Buildzoid's Internet because of Z490 coverage.
@joefowble
@joefowble 4 жыл бұрын
OMG, why B550 vids? The Z490 boards have been out for weeks now! /s lol.
@c4nchi
@c4nchi 4 жыл бұрын
@@ebsmith1102 Is not buildzoid's fault if asrock does a shitty job at motherboards xD
@luigius8590
@luigius8590 4 жыл бұрын
@@joefowble nobody cares about z490
@smugmode
@smugmode 4 жыл бұрын
@@luigius8590 Lol
@onlytruth6494
@onlytruth6494 4 жыл бұрын
There are 8 mosfets in the Aorus B550M elite 40:14 . You missed the extra 3 towards the right
@hyperstimmed
@hyperstimmed 4 жыл бұрын
As the owner of an X470 Gaming 7.. that BIOS switch is totally needed and I'm very disappointed it's not there.
@rymannphilippe
@rymannphilippe 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible you can chanche bioses with an onscreen tool or maybe some keyboard inputs?
@MegaGasek
@MegaGasek 4 жыл бұрын
@@rymannphilippe Well if you are oc'ing cpu or memory and something goes wrong you won't have access to an onscreen tool and keyboard input won't work, so you'll have to wait for the motherboard to fail boot a few times and then switch to the other working bios. This is frustrating because of the wasted time. I think it is just easier to remove the CMOS battery but still frustrating... I don't know, like buildzoid says this is stupid.
@rymannphilippe
@rymannphilippe 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaGasek thanks for this fantastic information
@xandersir
@xandersir 4 жыл бұрын
I think my favourite Gigabyte B550 board is the Vision D. Dual Intel LAN, PS/2, 8 USB and 2 TB3, a post code, good memory OC speeds, and the first PCIe slot is dedicated x16 even if the M.2 slots are used.
@tomstech4390
@tomstech4390 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but a lump of metal where there should be a vrm heatsink.
@NovaDoll
@NovaDoll 4 жыл бұрын
The usb c ports on the back are thunderbolt 3 ports.
@radus1682
@radus1682 4 жыл бұрын
Have been waiting for this.
@smugmode
@smugmode 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you do MSi next
@chrisrichards7481
@chrisrichards7481 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the master: I believe AMD 3000 series CPUs give 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes with x16 to the GPU and x4 to the chipset (which is actually PCIe 3.0?). The remaining 4 lanes go to to a single nvme m.2 slot. My guess is if you use any of the other 2 m.2 slots it downgrades the GPU to x8 and splits the remaining x8 between the two m.2 slots for a 2 by x4 config. So I think you get 1 m.2 for free without a bandwidth penalty, but if you use slots 2 and 3 you lose GPU bandwidth.
@Carrinthe
@Carrinthe 4 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand. If you're paying $280,- for a B550 master why don't you het a good x570 board around the same price like a MSI Unify and never have to bother with such compromises.
@ForeverDoubting
@ForeverDoubting 4 жыл бұрын
Ah shit. I Want multiple M.2s it's so much cleaner then 2.5 inch SSDs, ah but I guess I can use one of those PCI expansion cards on which you can mount an M.2 and it'll use that X4 dedicated to chipset right? So i can have two SSDs without fucking my GPU?
@Cmr2333
@Cmr2333 4 жыл бұрын
ForeverDoubting theoretically if current gen GPUs supported pcie 4.0 then I wouldn’t be worried about the x8 downgrade since x8 pcie 4.0 is the same bandwidth as x16 pcie 3.0, and from what I understand, even the highest end GPUs right now don’t fully use up the bandwidth of x16 pcie 3.0. If you’re using a lower end GPU you may not use up the entire x8 bandwidth anyway? If you’re adventurous, I’d first try some games or benchmarks without the extra m.2 SSDs to get a baseline, then plug in the SSDs and try the same games/benchmarks to see if there’s any major performance losses. If you find you’re happy with the built in m.2 then no need to buy the extra card. If the performance you get by using the built in m.2 is unacceptable then get the add on card for pcie. I mean, there’s no better way to find out than to try it out yourself?
@lookitsrain9552
@lookitsrain9552 4 жыл бұрын
"is the elite going to be 110", yes it is 110 usd actually
@romanarnold4064
@romanarnold4064 4 жыл бұрын
@actually hardcore overclocking one way to also click on a link into a new tab with one hand is to click on it with the scroll wheel button didn’t know if you knew this saw you talking about control click in a previous video and thought this might help love the vids keep it up.
@PaulTheFox1988
@PaulTheFox1988 4 жыл бұрын
The Intersil controller looks to be a 6+2 design with doublers, it does mention that it uses doublers in the features page for some of the boards.
@kcthebrewer
@kcthebrewer 4 жыл бұрын
@actuallyhardcoreoverclocking on the motherboard pages, if you click on "Power Architecture" it shows you the exact power delivery setup
@wartbiter
@wartbiter 4 жыл бұрын
Gigabyte probably has a monthly employee competition for who can doodle the least efficient heat sink.
@NutellaCrepe
@NutellaCrepe 4 жыл бұрын
Just want to make a correction at 30:16 when you said that there isn't any advantage of going X570 for ITX with regards to PCI-E. This is false as X570 does give you PCI-E 4.0 on both M.2 slots as opposed to only one of them on the B550. This is due to the B550 chipset itself not having any PCI-E 4.0 uplink lanes but rather just relies on the CPU's 20 PCI-E 4 lanes for the x16 and one x4 M.2 slots. The X570 does have an x4 PCI-E 4.0 uplink which enables x4 PCI-E 4.0 on the second M.2 as well. This is important as X570 is the only ITX option if you want more than a single Gen4 NVMe drive.
@onboard3
@onboard3 4 жыл бұрын
Little tip on gigabyte pages, those new versions are rev 1.1 and you can click the rev 1.0 link on the title to quickly compare the two. What I mostly noticed is that 1.1 is "Thunderbolt™ Add-in Card Connector" connector added rest exact same :) Well maybe other boards have some minor tweaks as well, like the top of the line.
@JayHere
@JayHere 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I was wondering when this video was coming 😄
@jasoncruze1493
@jasoncruze1493 4 жыл бұрын
The Aorous pro and Elite ATX lineup use a six-phase Intersil ISL229004 PWM that's doubled and connected to 12 Vishay SiC651C phases each capable of 50A.
@bradleys6646
@bradleys6646 4 жыл бұрын
Commenting from the future. They released a revision both for the Aorus Elite and Aorus Pro. They tweaked the power phases and rotated the lower sata ports on the Elite so they face the right. They also changed the max memory speed on the elite to 4400.
@MarioCRO
@MarioCRO 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you control the BIOS chip by holding PWR + RST during turning ON ???
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 4 жыл бұрын
is that a thing? because the first time I've ever heard of that.
@MarioCRO
@MarioCRO 4 жыл бұрын
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yeah, I have X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming, and I found out during my "Why the f..." did I buy this motherboard moments, just like you mentioned with memory overclocking while I was trying to get best results.
@MarioCRO
@MarioCRO 4 жыл бұрын
www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/697533-GUIDE-Forcing-backup-BIOS-on-Gigabyte-motherboards
@MarioCRO
@MarioCRO 4 жыл бұрын
superuser.com/questions/1141050/how-to-force-gigabyte-motherboard-to-boot-in-the-backup-bios-by-shorting-pins-on
@MarioCRO
@MarioCRO 4 жыл бұрын
I had a rough time until I found that out. And also, this was the way for me to flash the newer verions of BIOS on the second chip. Otherwise they were different versions and after a failback, I had to start all over again...
@johndillon3035
@johndillon3035 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for Buildzoid's A520 lineup!!!!!
@NovaDoll
@NovaDoll 4 жыл бұрын
Finally. I want the vision D. :( wish you’d spent more time on it.
@sweetyfox7058
@sweetyfox7058 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it doesn't have the best VRMs in the world since they don't really reveal very much about them on its product page. I wanted the Vision D as well but it was this reason alone that I felt like it wasn't the best choice for me. BUT O.M.G. IT LOOKS SO FUCKING HAWT!
@Royameadow
@Royameadow 4 жыл бұрын
At this point in time, the best Micro ATX options for a Ryzen 3950X build are looking to be ASRock's B550M Steel Legend (0I54.99$ USD) and Gigabyte's B550M Aorus Pro (0II9.99$); MSI's MAG Series B550M Mortar (0I59.99$) and Asus' TUF Gaming B550M Plus (also 0I59.99$) are a bit harder for me to justify due to a lack of VRM/MOSFET Cooling in certain areas and also for having an odd layout for PCI Express cards on the TUF Gaming (the top Graphics Card slot is one row lower than it must be), thus the Aorus Pro is looking to be the best option for Cost Factor while the Steel Legend is probably the best for Durability and Storage. The Steel Legend gives up two USB: Type A ports, when compared to the Aorus Pro's nine, but makes up for this by having six SATA III ports for storage as opposed to four on the Aorus Pro; considering that one would be saving about 035$ on an Aorus Pro if they could find it at MSRP (or at all, for that matter; it's still not officially available on Newegg nor Amazon in the states), I would recommend Gigabyte's option if only because of the lower price and if somebody will actually make use of all the USB: Type A ports on the board and their case (Local Ten Player Saturn Bomberman on emulator, anybody?), plus it'll very likely be fine running a 3950X at Stock and in Eco Mode, simply make sure that you have a spacious case and good cooling if you go for an OC though.
@UpperAquatics
@UpperAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering B550!!! Your opinion means a lot to me. Also I've been waiting to upgrade my girlfriends PC until I get your review on em all xD
@lrmcatspaw1
@lrmcatspaw1 4 жыл бұрын
16:05 That would be me. PS/2 for Starcraft Broodwar. (All things being equal, I will pay 50 bucks more if a motherboard has PS/2 for both Mouse and Keyboard).
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 4 жыл бұрын
the M Elite and M DS3H have very long heatsinks which don't cover anything if there are no extra mosfets. It would be a really weird choke layout though. Are the heatsinks just long to make the VRM look bigger than it really is? Perhaps they had intended to use 2 low-side mosfets per phase when they designed the heatsinks, then went down to one per phase to cut costs?
@Veserius
@Veserius 4 жыл бұрын
Buildzoid are you any higher on the B550M Aorus Pro at the 130 dollar price point?
@Otawakun
@Otawakun 4 жыл бұрын
Gigabyte loves 4c06 and 4c10. And the amount of burnt VRMs I've seen using those is a lot.
@LinkStorm13
@LinkStorm13 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused by the pricing in germany. At 120€ the b550m Aorus pro is the 5th cheapest board out off all b550 boards.
@EDIIIZ
@EDIIIZ 4 жыл бұрын
But it is also unavailable. Maybe wrong pricing? Because it looks really good for the price.
@kkylmz0514
@kkylmz0514 4 жыл бұрын
This is progress. ASUS is what I’m waiting for.
@RAW_Reality
@RAW_Reality 4 жыл бұрын
I'm disheartened by the lack of a Hero x550 variant.
@yulusleonard985
@yulusleonard985 4 жыл бұрын
@@RAW_Reality x570?
@BeamMonsterZeus
@BeamMonsterZeus 4 жыл бұрын
Google Chrome does have "reopen closed tab" it's CTRL+Shift+T And again, you can middle mouse button click links to open them in a new tab instead of right click>mouse to option>left click, a lot easier on your wrists over time.
@harrydang9
@harrydang9 4 жыл бұрын
for Chrome, Ctrl+Shift+T reopens the last closed tab the B550M Aorus Pro is $130 (which is less than what you estimated) and the B550M Aorus Elite is $110, the prices are on B&H and an Wccftech article there's also a Google Spreadsheet on r/AMD that has all the MOSFET models for all B550 boards if you need it instead of just guessing edit: ah i see you already saw it from a different comment
@asrock2577
@asrock2577 4 жыл бұрын
25:47 Yeah it does :) press Ctrl+Shift+T
@d15p4tch6
@d15p4tch6 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for you to do the MSI boards!
@NotQuiteAsianOG
@NotQuiteAsianOG 4 жыл бұрын
I grabbed the B550 Vision D based on this video lol
@stevensiloti356
@stevensiloti356 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding PCIe 2x: AFAIK physical 2x slots/connectors don't exist, but there are lots of cards which are electrically 2x with a 4x connector (some of them still claim to be 4x in their product spec, tisk tisk). There are also 4x/8x/16x slots which are electrically 2x, but those are a bit less common.
@Krarilotus
@Krarilotus 4 жыл бұрын
how much power can go through the 8pin connector for the CPU? And how much would i needto run with stable overclocks? You mention often, that the MSI extra 4 pin doesn't matter, but when i look at CPU's like the 3950X, they overclock well with a beefy cooler. Looking at the Gigabyte Aorus Pro here, which you said you would prefer over the master
@AllanHundeboll
@AllanHundeboll 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome! I can't decide Asus 550 Tuf, ASRock steel legend or gigabyte Aorus Elite (all ATX boards). I know the steel legend has strong wrm but I think the x2 nvme ports might become to slow if I purchase a second ssd sometime in the future. The Aorus Elite seems nice and is cheap in my country but the ram speeds seems kind of slow. I know fast ram is only show, but who knows, Zen 3 might change that. So what "future proof" mid-range b550 board would you recommend so I can upgrade to 16 core zen3 and 2nd fast sdd if they ever become affordable? I don't need lots of USB but 2xusb 3.1 gen2, 2.5G realtek lan, HDMI and displayport would be nice to have. But I realize I can't have everything on a mid-range board...
@swordsman176
@swordsman176 4 жыл бұрын
Does buildzoid know there's a Gigabyte B550 cheat sheet with VRM information?
@iceblade019
@iceblade019 4 жыл бұрын
Are we seeing a Z490 Xtreme PCB breakdown?
@irridiastarfire
@irridiastarfire 4 жыл бұрын
It probably would have been worth using the "Compare" tool on the Gigabyte site for some of these boards (esp. the Elite M vs the D3H) -- FYI all of the specs listed *are* identical
@UltraDXSASC
@UltraDXSASC 4 жыл бұрын
Hey BZ, I think a lot of people have the same question, for the price of the B450 Tomahawk, there is any equal or stronger VRM and feature set? Without the PCI 4.0
@zosto5321
@zosto5321 4 жыл бұрын
i feel a little bit pissed,i bought a x570 Elite a month ago.. But if the power delivery its the same ,what the Eck..
@loonie5468
@loonie5468 4 жыл бұрын
Having just gotten an X570 Aorus Pro Wifi, I can confirm it was quite the experience when, after failing to post 3 or so times in a row since I was an idiot who thought the non-WiFi updated BIOS would work on it, the secondary BIOS suddenly kicked in. That said, I don't plan to overclock it too much, just to get some more stable performance, so while a switch for it would be more sane, I'm more or less okay with having a 2nd BIOS just in case something goes wrong, even if there is no switch for it (still have to trick 3 or so post fails to fix the initial borked BIOS tho!) I can only imagine how insane it must be to have that crap switch on you nonstop, when you're regularly OCing stuff for fun and system crashes are part of the game!
@d4mb20
@d4mb20 4 жыл бұрын
Will you try the new ddr4 lexar kits?
@ericimi
@ericimi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you !!
@bFix
@bFix 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the vision-d's heatsink? The b550m Aorus Pro doesn't have 2,5gbit/s LAN either. None of their B550m boards has it.
@dallatorretdu
@dallatorretdu 4 жыл бұрын
first SSD slot has its own lanes to the cpu, no bifurcation in that
@tanishqbhaiji103
@tanishqbhaiji103 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Der8buer sell universal TPM Post Code modules
@everope
@everope 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, did I miss the AsRock one? I can't find it
@ricardorodrigues4821
@ricardorodrigues4821 4 жыл бұрын
The B550 Aorus Pro AC and B550 Aorus Pro are using a 12+2 phase power delivery, with twelve Vishay SiC651C 50 A power stages for the CPU, and two SiC651AD 50 A power stages for the SoC. It is using an Intersil ISL229004 in a 6+2 configuration, with six ISL6617A doublers for the CPU section. www.anandtech.com/show/15850/the-amd-b550-motherboard-overview-asus-gigabyte-msi-asrock-and-others/24
@GarfunkelVila
@GarfunkelVila 4 жыл бұрын
I have this feeling that MSI version of this video is near. I'm waiting for m-itx and m-atx
@MrBook123456
@MrBook123456 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for good video
@zalomalo
@zalomalo 4 жыл бұрын
You are not reading the second rows of memory configurations text.
@BeamMonsterZeus
@BeamMonsterZeus 4 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: You can manually trip the backup BIOS function by holding the power button for 5-6 seconds *while the power supply is switched off* thereby tricking the motherboard into thinking the current BIOS is bad and thus it will load the backup BIOS.
@ebsmith1102
@ebsmith1102 4 жыл бұрын
Cheesezoid Merch?
@PaulHawke1337
@PaulHawke1337 4 жыл бұрын
'I ate BZ's ethernet cable' t-shirt. Kappa
@edplat2367
@edplat2367 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t you switch to single bios mode with a jumper on some pins on the motherboard. You could do that back in the day, not sure if you still can?
@Child3k
@Child3k 4 жыл бұрын
With the B550 Master you can use the first m.2 and 16x for the GPU. Only if you go to 2x m.2 or more you go back to 8x for the GPU.
@CarbonPanther
@CarbonPanther 4 жыл бұрын
The B550 Aorus Pro is a 6+2 (real) or 12+2 (Virtual) (doubled, right?) the controller is a RAA229004 (max 8 phases), Elite is the same, Vision D seems to use that as well. The Elite seems to have different spacing just because it's not the same PCB as Pro/ Vision D.
@gamertechlive1780
@gamertechlive1780 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's 12+2 ( reality 6+2 ) and uses a doubler. The flat curve heatsink is connected to the finned smaller heatsink via copper heatpipe
@RandomBridger
@RandomBridger 4 жыл бұрын
"Seeing what we can see" Yeah Thats Right
@redrock425
@redrock425 4 жыл бұрын
Although expensive, this leaves me still happy with my X570 Aorus Master.
@OBCBTTB
@OBCBTTB 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Wood I'm keen on this board too. Check Guru3d's latest review on it.
@남기헌-l8y
@남기헌-l8y 4 жыл бұрын
does extra low side mosfet at rear of the PCB without heatsink helps VRM thermal? I've always just assumed that penalty of being un-heatsinked outweighs benefit of lower resistance... TPU review of B550 Aorus pro clearly shows one RAA229004 and six ISL6617A. my hypothesis would be 1. they are using "true phase" bit creatively, trying to emphasize that thier VRM has actually out-of-phase 12 phase unlike Asus's "teamed" or MSI's "Duet" thing or 2.they are not using ISL6617A as doubler, but that's something, so they are claiming it's 'true' 12 phase.
@narayannaik9041
@narayannaik9041 4 жыл бұрын
Not a fan.. But same mobo is used in the b550 rig in next video?
@theordinarydude2104
@theordinarydude2104 4 жыл бұрын
Why do they always waste space on the IO shield with open space or PS2 ports???
@zelkuta
@zelkuta 4 жыл бұрын
All the m.2 drives of the aorus master can actually be very helpful to people like photographers that can be processing thousands of 30-100mb files or hundreds of gigs of video or audio captures per job. All the nvme would be very useful for in photo editing and light room usage just form person experience. The problem in my opinion is that it shouldn't be marketed as a gaming motherboard but more as a productivity mothoerboard. As such, if they dropped all the gamery features like rgb and awkward bios flashback and all that jazz, could have sold a very solid work station board for a lower price that could be perfect for amatuer video makers or photographers. All the usb slots is also a huge plus for productivity workloads where you could be hooking up a large amount of devices. Even with it's flaws, it could be the basis for a bang-for-buck editing machine.
@ijustsawthat
@ijustsawthat 4 жыл бұрын
Buildzoid forgot to mention about how bad is the experience on dual bios boards without switches.
@supreme84x
@supreme84x 4 жыл бұрын
5:00 Damn. I really wanted this board. But I'll have to go to another option. :(
@N7Trekkie
@N7Trekkie 4 жыл бұрын
on google chrome, Control+Shift+T opens the last tab(s) you closed
@maeldupont4097
@maeldupont4097 4 жыл бұрын
In the Elite and Tuf manual they say the second x16 pcie slot only works in X1 while there is a GPU on the first one. Is it true or did I understand wrong?
@TheBackyardChemist
@TheBackyardChemist 4 жыл бұрын
How come you are using Chrome now?
@Fix_It_Again_Tony
@Fix_It_Again_Tony 4 жыл бұрын
Most of what I've read about Ryzen memory overclocking says to keep the infinity fabric the mem clock at the same frequency (1:1) with 1800 MHz IF and 3600 MT/s DDR being a sweet spot (maybe slightly higher depending on silicon). A lot of the improvements come from optimizing timings which is why the Ryzen memory calculator exists. Is it really worth it to shell out more money for something that can support 5000+ MT/s when you can look for the same VRM in a board that may only support 4400? I am looking to use a single CCD processor like the 3600.
@qlum
@qlum 4 жыл бұрын
As an owner of the Z370 gaming 7 I feel the pain of not having a bios switch. I also do have a dedicated gigabyte bios backup usb.
@SkyForce6700
@SkyForce6700 4 жыл бұрын
BuildZoid in that B550 master review that are coming up I hope you slam Gigabyte for not including a front port USB Type C header. There is no excuse for not including that in a $280 board considering that most people buying a board in that price range most likely will also pair it with a more expensive case that have such a front port. Gigabyte is the only one that are not including that header on any of the B550 boards including the master which is ridiculous and they deserve some flask for it...😡
@dronshi
@dronshi 4 жыл бұрын
I was bombarded with hate from some idiots in Reddit for defending this choice by Gigabyte. It's because it all went to the Rear IO section of the board, though this only applies to those Gigabyte boards with 8+ USB ports. Either you get your USB Type C header but have an absolute shit Rear IO section like the B550 Tomahawk is, or get a really good Rear IO section but not have a Type C header. It all really depends if you really need to use the Type C header. I have one in one of my cases but I'm fine with just hiding the cable. Just like Buildzoid, I barely even use any Type C devices. As for the Gigabyte motherboards that have few USB ports but still don't have a type C header, that really deserves some shit.
@christenlanger
@christenlanger 4 жыл бұрын
My board having no BIOS switch (X570 Aorus Pro Wifi) is the only reason why I'm not aggressive with my memory overclocks.
@samfedorka5629
@samfedorka5629 4 жыл бұрын
16:24 "you can't get [Model M keyboards] in anything other than PS/2 since that's what they were made for" Oddly enough I am typing this on a model M keyboard that came from the factory with USB. It is true that the IBM PS/2 computer came with a model M keyboard though they predated that. However, as a keyboard enthusiast, I will say that having a PS/2 port on your machine is very handy. It's so much better than finding your stash of USB to PS2 adapters.
@tanishqbhaiji103
@tanishqbhaiji103 4 жыл бұрын
I need all those m.2s but only PCIe 3.0
@OBCBTTB
@OBCBTTB 4 жыл бұрын
Tanishq bhaiji The Auros Master is Gen4 to the three M2 slots as they connect directly to the CPU, so long as you use a Ryzen 3 3000 Series CPU. The first PCIe slot is also Gen 4. The achilles heel comes when you fill the M2 and M3 slot as then the first PCIe slot defaults to 8x lanes which is shared. now with M2 and M3. Guru3d just did a review on the Auros 550 Master, check it out.
@fabian731
@fabian731 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there were a Vision x570 board. I love the look of it and it would actually fit a good white build. Only good White boards are from Asus and without Wifi.
@NovaDoll
@NovaDoll 4 жыл бұрын
Fabian vision D has built in thunderbolt 3. When x570 came out it wouldn’t be possible.
@Arkeny-SS
@Arkeny-SS 4 жыл бұрын
can you test if those motherboard can really run 4000+ ddr4 memori ?
@mystical4442
@mystical4442 4 жыл бұрын
on the M.2 comments, I really don't understand why it's integrated on the motherboard since you can literally just put a PCIe slot on its place and use a card to install M.2 drives on that slot itself.
@jakovmarinvezic2364
@jakovmarinvezic2364 4 жыл бұрын
Undo closed tab is Ctrl+Shift+T
@hyperionhelios190
@hyperionhelios190 4 жыл бұрын
I was having trouble trying to understand the PCIE and M.2 on the Aorus Master and Aorus Pro. I plan to have a GPU and one M.2 PCIE Gen4 to start. My concern is when/if I decide to install a second M.2, this time PCIE Gen 3, into these two board. Any insight on what you would recommend? I am worried about adding a second M.2 to the Master and all of a sudden my PCIE lane for the GPU drops to from X16 to X8. I'm not too concerned with dual BIOS, I've never overclocked RAM before.
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