First look at the 2025 Beta Race Models! 2-Stroke & 4-Stroke! 2025 Beta Motorcycle Reveal

[@SaiTorrKalFas]

On the larger rear axle and the stiff suspension: Beta has their focus on Enduro GP and other higher speed stuff. Look at the contract running out with Jonny Walker, and the support they did (not) give him.

[@itsonlyjeff]

Great video as usual. I think with some suspension tuning the 300rx is basically the bike you’re talking about. Just picked up a used ‘24 that is valved for woods and so far it seems like it will make a great harescramble bike.

[@UnicornMoto]

Such helpful information. I can’t even get my local dealer to answer their phone or return a call.

[@chobitrial]

nice video as always, I think Beta always uses stop light and front light on the race models because racing in europe sometimes need to drive in street roads and maybe this is why the keeping installed from factory, maybe i'm wrong but think about it, i see races with the bikes with license plate in the back

[@Steveman61]

You are right! I am over here in Europe. Not having a front and rear light means you are not competing. Simple as that. The rules over here are different. In FIM races you have to have that stuff. In some races, as you correctly mentioned, public roads or at least parts of public roads are used. If that's the case you need to have a licence plate. In races like Erzberg, Romaniacs it isn't necessary to have a licence plate but lights are mandatory. In Europe there are no races, except local ones where you can use MX bikes, or Enduro bikes without headlights....

[@3SeasRecreation]

Yea I fully understand the European thing and that is cool for them but the USA market is strong enough to earn bikes that are directly for our buyers. Beta USA is awesome with their accessories, in-fact you can order a complete light kit for a 300 RX if you desired. I would rather have the ability to add a light to a race bike rather than being told we have to remove it. Anyways, looks like I will have to keep dreaming until 2026 lol...

[@craigloomis20]

Great comments from this dealer. On my second Beta 300RE and what he mentioned trying to make the RE into more of a cross country bike is what how I always try to spec mine out. Still love my 2024 with the exception of how early the reserve comes in and the stock tires.

[@KentBradford-g5s]

I really appreciate your honesty and delivery about what’s good and bad on the new offerings from Beta. Keep it up because we all trust you and what you put out on social media. I just wish I lived in your area, you’d have all my business. I know, a new dealership location and name. How about 3 Seas and A Gulf ( of Mexico) Recreation ??

[@3SeasRecreation]

I appreciate that! Thanks for taking the time to watch our videos. Much appreciated. You never know, I might have to move down your way to get away from this snow! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@robmontana4971]

Thanks for the review, Jared! One thing to keep in mind with the new dual spark plug head is that every guy I ride with on a 24' 300 race edition that rides slower technical terrain (medium to hard enduro) ALLLLL overheat their bikes. I'm riding right next to them on my 23' and have never once overheated it. They have to run evan's coolant, enlarge the stater so they can run dual fans, larger impellers etc... The new head design if flawed with decreased coolant flow. Beta USA is aware of this. I was hoping they would change the design for 25's but no luck! I don't think they had enough time to reconfigure this before working on the 25 RE's. Maybe next year!!

[@3SeasRecreation]

Wow that is crazy! I am grateful for your feedback. I have not had that issue yet but not many of mine went into the hard enduro world. I will have to keep that in mind. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@satellitesevensoul2514]

Same here, I have one friend doing extreme enduro with it and it overheated too. Not with the 2023 models, only dual spark ones overheat. Kind of dissappointed that they didn't solved this for the new race edition

[@peterjamesmurray1]

Great honest video. Thanks, Jared.

[@mxdave]

Would be interesting to hear what your struggles are with the 4t Beta's. It is amazing how much info is lacking on them vs the 2 stroke models.

[@Papparratzi]

To your point about electric start bikes not starting if the batteries dead. I highly recommend everybody to make a purchase of a capacitor for emergency starting. It will allow your bike to start and run without a battery. Of course you have to either push start or kickstart it. But that’s better than being stuck and just pushing 20 miles.

[@barryhardnow-sy8xj]

What is it that you’re not happy with on the 2024 four strokes. was thinking about getting a 2024 beta 390 but might wait till 2025?

[@streakfighter]

Do it, I have a 24 430 race and love it but would pick up a 390 in a heart beat if I could.

[@mixalis6168]

4T are such a good bike tho ! Setting up a racing for a softer feel worked for a mate, he just preferred the look of that bike, thats why he bought it, like all people @

[@AdamCoffey828]

Getting my ego in check and going with the RR model last year was probably the best move I could have made. Suspension is so plush and doesn’t beat me up, can’t wait to demo an X pro.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Very glad to hear that! I think you have the best bike available to you! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@rickiricki8]

Ok so for trail riding what model 2024 250 2 stroke should I get. I am older now and slower but still love riding. I am no expert so easy to ride is a plus. I live in North Carolina and ride all over the state. I thought the 200 race edition was the one but now I think a 250 with the softer suspension is the answer.. I am about 180 lbs and like to open it up every once in a while thanks for the video..

[@ryansrides9230]

Definitely tell your connections at Beta that we would love to be able to buy a race edition without any of the lights and light wiring. Like how the XC series KTM's are. 85% of my riding is hare scrambles so I don't need/want the extra stuff.

[@WilliamBernal-si1pn]

Could you do an in depth and clear video on how to change the transmission oil in a 2024 beta xtrainer

[@SoSlo2]

You're 100% right, Jared. I've been saying this for years now. It sucks that we have to build our own Race (Editions) into hare scramble bikes with the race harness and light removals. It's silly for a brand that has so many different models to deny us this when then have all the parts already in the bin.

[@3SeasRecreation]

The good news is that I like checking the wiring so installing the race harness isn't the worst idea. Other than that the little things are pretty doable and don't cost much. (Other than buying your guards). Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@christiangibson3112]

Maybe just buy an RX & put a 18” rear wheel on it?

[@SoSlo2]

@@christiangibson3112 not a terrible route but the motors are mechanically different and the 300 race better suits my riding style and conditions.

[@NzPampa]

thanks for the honest review! and sharing your thoughts. I hate when a new bike comes up, everybody says is great, then a couple of years after you read, yeah that two years ago was crap on this and that.

[@lowriderST24]

You’re right. I’m new and I got the RE for the KYB, it’s beating me up bad. I’m going to spend. Only to get it done for my style and weight.

[@RyanAverill3]

Good vid. Ftr I bought a 2024 race edition 300 with the dual sparks and while I’m no expert I believe it does increase mileage a little, it was surprising

[@3SeasRecreation]

Thanks for the feedback! I was hoping that would be the case. I wish I would of kept one to ride but customers were continually lined up to take them home (good thing). Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@mk3driftmotion]

My dream, after just purchasing a new 2024 390 RS, is that they would use proper sealed connectors rather than all the Molex nonsense, and that they would actually make sure the radiator fan was plugged in, and all the Molex pins were actually pushed in all the way.

[@3SeasRecreation]

I would agree on the electrical connectors. I think things could be simpler but I am also not the once faced with the challenge of making the bike run like the engineers are lol. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@davenawahine4428]

My big complaint is the junk suspension on the non-race models. I've worked on the sachs and ZF stuff...not impressed. Beta needs to offer a suspension package choice, kyb-trail, kyb-xc-race and the stock sachs, ZF. Beta is going backwards with the single function forks, every other suspension manufacturer has stepped away from it, because its a poor design.

[@jamesking4225]

I will never understand putting basically a beefed up xtrainer fork on the xpro nothing pro about it.

[@Replacement208]

What issues or complaints do you have with the 4 strokes? I watch most of your content but don't remember any thing specific. While i don't own one but i have ridden several of the 4T and my favorite was the 350.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Hmm I'm not sure there is one major issue it just seems I'm dealing with them way more than the 2 strokes. BUT to be clear Beta USA is AWESOME and they never ask questions. They just take care of the customer! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@captaincornbreadsdirtgrave9144]

I’m guessing your comments were really directed towards the EFI mapping issues. I’m not sure why the aftermarket hasn’t seen an opportunity here.

[@barryhardnow-sy8xj]

@@captaincornbreadsdirtgrave9144 would be good to know if this is what he’s talking about

[@robertforsberg6192]

Why should one be more tired on the race vs the rr?? Isnt The only differens betwen them the quality of the suspension components?

[@michaelschlup-c5o]

my local dealer loves the RR model... suspension is very tunable.... Race Edition KYB even is not the same as japanese valving...

[@3SeasRecreation]

Sounds like I would get along with your dealer LOL. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@nickmiller7373]

Agree with the race model thoughts. Going to buy the new footpegs from you. Also the rear KYB is actually rough becasue the high speed dampening is too soft. The jetting on the 200 can definitely be way better from the factory but maybe it's like that for emissions. There's a lot of power to unlock.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Yea I think the 2-stroke jetting is pretty hard for them to have one setting that really works good for the whole country. Typically we don't have to do much for our area thankfully. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@ericboisselle1145]

been watching all your videos and from now on you are my Beta reference, i have a 2023 Honda 250RX and wanting a 2025 RR 200 or xtrainer 300cc, the balanced 300 engine is the deal breaker i think.

[@rx2ride259]

I agree. I sell way more Race Editions when the RR would be better. I have a 200Race and 480RR. Like my RR suspension better.

[@Garrettactical]

Well, I’m that guy. I recently bought a 24 300 Race Edition. Only 3.1 hours on it and I’m wishing I bought…probably the XTrainer. This Race Edition is stiff and too powerful for me. It just begs to go fast, and at this point in my life I’m slowing down a bit. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the X-Pro going to be basically the same power output as my 300 Race? If so I’ll need to go with the XTrainer for the milder power. ps. Love the Beta content!

[@austinnewman115]

ill be snagging a 25 300 RE im excited

[@mack73]

Did the Race editions already get a frame update? Thinking about all the hype on the Xpro about the frame updates and figured those would have come over to this as well...

[@3SeasRecreation]

I don't think they got much otherwise there would of been some bullet points talking about them... Seems like they just got some little things and that's about it! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@rumbellclan]

Always enjoy your update videos. I have a 2023 300 rr and find the same problem with the map switch. If i just disconnect the switch will it be in sun or rain mode? Thanks

[@briannelson2424]

If you disconnect the map switch it will be in Sun mode

[@danielseibert4082]

It will run in the last selected map before you pull the switch

[@austinnewman115]

125 hours on my 22 300 and sparkplug was still good

[@Threedogsinatrenchcoat]

Did they lower compression on new 4t's?

[@danielseibert4082]

no

[@jacobbieler1876]

I was 100% convinced i was going to buy a 350 race and after asking around theres no way im buying one they need to iron out the 4t issues. Sticking with the 250 2 stroke but its frustrating to spend an extra 500 bucks to delete parts on a brand new bike.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Good choice on the 2-stroke! With the 4-stroke stuff... the few bikes that I have had issues with Beta has 100% been behind me and the bikes with zero questions asked. They truly are an awesome company to work with! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@jonnoMoto]

I saw MXA mag complain about the 450 mx bike and its looseness in the frame. They reckoned a larger rear axle might help

[@3SeasRecreation]

I think with our three 450 RX bikes we went around with a torque wrench a few times and we did notice a few loose bolts. However after the initial 5 hour bolt check they have been awesome. (We always recommend a bolt check after 5 hours) Especially on 2 strokes! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@129NATE]

To me the electronic key is a safety feature like the trials bikes. If you fall off the bike and the bike slides 15ft away, it shuts down. Although for what it’s worth, I do not have the key installed on my 24 Xtrainer lol

[@3SeasRecreation]

Yea, I'm not saying the theory of why we would want one is bad. I'm just saying their design that relies on 3 triple A Batteries is HORRIBLE! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@danielseibert4082]

All 4T EFI bikes shut off when they tip over. They have a roll over sensor. They just had to put that on the 2T and it would be fine. 🤔

[@coryroot]

Is the x pro suspension as good as the 24 RR models?

[@3SeasRecreation]

As soon as we get our hands on one we will find out! Might have to get you up to try it !

[@Steveman61]

Great video! I too think the different rear axle diameter is pure nonsense. But did you realise that KTM has already changed the axle diameters at least three times....? No one complained about that (except me).

[@3SeasRecreation]

Ah, I had no idea about the KTM axles. I really don't follow the other brands all that close to know those little details. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@andrecasanova3753]

You also should promote Sherco brand they also look sick

[@3SeasRecreation]

Yea.. I have been with Beta since 2012 and I feel like it has taken a long time to truly understand the bikes and the brand. Not sure I'm up for the challenge of learning the Sherco. I also don't think there is another brand as good as Beta to work with. Beta has the absolute best dealer support, customer support, parts availability in the USA, drop shipping and no pressure sales. We enjoy Beta and plan to keep it that way. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@gearhigher2027]

Jared sounds like BETA has taken three steps forward in the last year, only to go two steps back. GO FIGURE?

[@JozsaMarton]

FUEL INJECTION on BETA. who knows anything about that? not because of reliability or something, but because of the strict emissions regulations. check RIEJU, they also have 2T fuel injection.

[@Superdisco199]

I dont even own a beta but enjoy your break downs. I dont get why they need so many R's in the names. Just call them the x-train, x-pro, race and sx. And factories changing the axle diameter is just plain cruel lol As if anyone can feel the difference.

[@oldtin82]

pick up my 250 x-pro on Tuesday.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Lucky! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@jbucinskis]

I do not believe that Beta will make race editions with race wiring harness, because Race editions and standard RR (now X-Pro) are all street legal in Europe. No one there is interested to buy a motorcycle that would not be street legal (without lights and standard wiring harness). And for USA market to make modified model would not be cost effective.

[@my-max-media7621]

Manufacturers feel they must add or change things to have a "new" selling point... even if these changes do nothing. Really they tend to NOT listen well to customers or critically think with customers input because they're engineers and have tunnel vision🤣 Completely agree to make race edition without all the extra wiring etc. Oh, and get rid of the steering head lock on frame that'll just injest water and wreck the bearings

[@danielseibert4082]

you guys seme to forget that these bikes are designed for europe. The Steering lock and all the wiring is needed for registration in europe (where most of the bikes are sold) Without a steering lock and extra wiring the bike would not be able to be sold. But i think there are better ways to solve this than most manufatures do. Like a seperate harness for lightning which can easily be removes or a steering lock mountet to the tripleclamps like on some ktms. Or a own Race Model for US.

[@3SeasRecreation]

I think the USA market is certainly big enough to earn our own XC bike. The Xtrainer was 100% designed and asked for by the Beta USA team and that has now had a huge impact around the world. They already have the frame without the steering lock in the RX model. Why not just take a 200cc 2-stroke and a 300 2-stroke off road tuned motor and throw it in that frame you already have with an 18" rear wheel? We would certainly be in line for them! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@evr-mr3cp]

A little off topic, but I feel Beta will suffer a little fallout for letting Jonny Walker go.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Maybe, but honestly I don't think any one rider really affects the sales. I have NEVER had anyone come in the shop and tell me they are buying a Beta because such and such rider. (Other than our awesome team of local riders). Obviously there are pro MX guys like Roczen, Tomac and Lawrence that I think help the MX sales. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@Johnny-Gunn]

How does the 350 engine differ for an 350 Austrian engine? People seem to love it, but at 12 hp less (per google) that seems like a lot! Especially for a 210lb guy that rides moto and woods lol

[@dannn6703]

Defends what u r comparing, EXC-F or XCF-W, a 2023 500 EXC-F made 40hp on the dyno but a 2024 450 XCF-W makes 50 (Couldn't find any dyno numbers for a 350 except a 2019 one and that was making 35) .I've seen some reviews talking about the beta not lacking that much even tho the KTM's are making more (not as much as stated tho, found out the also like to makeup numbers :D)

[@Johnny-Gunn]

@@dannn6703 I believe dirtrider mag got 50 hp on their dyno for the 350 xcf

[@3SeasRecreation]

I love the Beta 350 and I do both Moto and woods myself. I have never had one on the Dyno so I really have no idea the difference. I can't imagine there is truly a 12 hp difference. They are all coming off the same assembly line just headed to different countries. I understand there are differences but NOT 12 hp different... Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@OtisFlint]

@@3SeasRecreation The Austrian 350s in the MX and XC bikes are really strong up top. The peak power is close to a 450, just with less TQ. I could see 12hp between them, the Beta is a much softer engine. You should get some seat time on a 24+ 350 XCF, that is more in line with the cross-country bike you're hoping Beta will someday make.

[@Superdisco199]

The 350 beta is the 450 motor with tweaked bore/stroke, the ktm is built as a 350 from the ground up and has more in common with the 250.

[@ochoabtor9597]

Need more bike pics 📸 while your talking next time...

[@devodar2579]

They need to fix the crappy wiring on all these Betas. So horrible!!!!

[@stevesmith756]

Everyone I’ve talked to have said the 450 is way under powered and disappointing

[@3SeasRecreation]

Man that's crazy! I have 3 of them here at the dealership and I 100% sponsor a local with his AMA Pro Card. He was the happiest rider coming off the track after his first ride! Check out our channel for videos of Bryn riding the bike for the first time. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@andrewauman40]

Think I'll be switching bikes. Beta is deffantely going the wrong way for hard enduro guys. Deff don't want to foul 2 plugs at the same time either that 2 plug thing is stupid. Moving to husky although I don't want fuel Injection.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Eh, every brand has its issues. And like I mentioned in the video, we have NEVER had a customer foul the plugs. I think that is mostly a thing of the past with folks having to carry a box of spare plugs for their 2 strokes. I would rather take a proven bike with a carburetor to a hard enduro fight rather than a fuel injected bike relying on the battery to keep the bike running as its being drained by the cooling fan. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@tandccreations6383]

come on beta where's the xc bikes man