First ride in the Mercedes EQE 350 RWD ! How does the electric CLS / E-Class EV feel?

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00:00 KZbin video streaming in the car
01:00 Is the EQE an electric E-Class or CLS?
04:21 Suspension details and comparison to the EQS
05:20 Acceleration EQE 350 RWD
06:26 Chassis details
07:52 Driving difference EQE vs EQS
12:03 Recuperation details
17:05 Best features? Rear-axle steering
19:03 Sound experiences
20:40 Adaptive ambient lighting
22:24 Rear-axle steering roundabout test
23:24 Do you need an EQS when you have the EQE?
25:50 Acceleration out of the corner in sport mode
28:09 Battery, efficiency, range - heat pump?
35:26 Charging
36:44 Seating comfort in AMG-Line seats
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►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: kzbin.info ►Check out the full Mercedes EQE briefing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn7RnZtmot9msJY ►Compare the Mercedes EQS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXzVf3aMiMmYnKM ►Compare the Tesla Model S: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqmWhmZ-Z5p9jdE ►Compare the Porsche Taycan: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqubk315nbaneaM 00:00 KZbin video streaming in the car 01:00 Is the EQE an electric E-Class or CLS? 04:21 Suspension details and comparison to the EQS 05:20 Acceleration EQE 350 RWD 06:26 Chassis details 07:52 Driving difference EQE vs EQS 12:03 Recuperation details 17:05 Best features? Rear-axle steering 19:03 Sound experiences 20:40 Adaptive ambient lighting 22:24 Rear-axle steering roundabout test 23:24 Do you need an EQS when you have the EQE? 25:50 Acceleration out of the corner in sport mode 28:09 Battery, efficiency, range - heat pump? 35:26 Charging 36:44 Seating comfort in AMG-Line seats #Mercedes #MercedesEQE #MercedesAMG Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.

[@georgejoseph3663]

ABSOLUTELY share the same view with Thomas the regen should have a pre-set and NOT Reset every time the Owner uses the car.. The head of the project should listen to their customers and to journalist who represents the users! Actively listening to these views will gain you more respect. Thank you Thomas for representing the common customer!! Plus it would be great if we could use the central screen for entertainment/ videos during charging rather than just on passenger screen..

[@autogefuehl]

👍

[@Kay_Emm_]

Yes absolutely! Even Honda offer you things to do while you're charging and they only have one fully electric car!

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Can't you use youtube or other video streaming via the builtin browser? How about mobile phone output/mirroring?

[@Kay_Emm_]

@@abraxastulammo9940 I believe Mercedes lets you watch KZbin via Web browser, but only using the passenger display

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@Kay_Emm_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/inalmGSCqLuHedEm50s shows it on the main screen. Not every car has the passenger display.

[@ahmeteren4561]

It should definitely have an option to set your initial setup as you like. Just like in the case of memory seat preference…

[@jdmoney1000]

indeed

[@pivkan999]

this + there should also be an option to enable "true" one pedal driving

[@danielm9297]

Just like a Tesla

[@gerard3797]

Exactly just make it profile and key dependable.

[@BillB33525]

The one feature the Taycan is missing is keeping the last setting of the recuperation mode. My Audi etron keeps the inteligent recuperation on restart.

[@shiakas]

Mad respect to Thomas for bringing up the range issue during winter driving without a heat pump.

[@autogefuehl]

🙏

[@updlate4756]

Yep, driving range is a huge issue for like 3-4 months of the year for the few people who take long trips in the winter and live in a cold climate. (No one in southern European regions, or the largest BEV markets in the US (California, Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc would need it) It'll add MILES!, even maybe 10s of miles of range, saving as many as 2-3 minutes to add back through DCFC. Hahah. Honestly, they could certainly make it an option, but because this is already a fairly low volume car, the economies of scale simply don't make sense. Tesla didn't even add one until they started putting it in literally every car they make, including the high volume cheaper cars. Mercedes would have to put it in every car in their lineup to make it worthwhile; but they're simply not making enough BEVs right now for it to ever be worth it. Is it a 'very' minor inconvenience on a long winter trip? Sure. Is it worth the expense and risk of it going bad... ala Tesla's heatpump issues?.... Ehhh.. probably not. It actually irks me a bit that Thomas was pestering him over this really minor and cost inefficient thing. What Thomas didn't mention is that the efficiency of the car was going to drop in the winter versus WLTP / EPA either way. The heat pump isn't gonna change that. It may mitigate SOME of the range loss, but how much exactly? Again, it's probably only in the 10-20 mile range.

[@updlate4756]

BTW, Thomas misquoted the range he got in the EQS. He said 220 miles in this video. In his last video he claimed 270 miles; confirming what Joerg claimed in this video about his own range tests during the winter. The heat pump would likely have very little impact on the vehicle's range.

[@SaraSara-kr6sp]

heat pump uses about 5 times less electricity I believe? I dont think that ads up to 10-20miles?🤔

[@updlate4756]

​@@SaraSara-kr6sp 5x = Incorrect. Bjorn did a side by side test of a model 3 with PDC heater and one with a heatpump at 3C (37F). Link below. He found that the heat pump car used a third of the energy. The PDC model 3 also used single pane glass side windows, whereas the heat pump version has double paned front side windows that retain heat better. The EQS uses double paned side windows all around (AFAIK) and has better body insulation which should reduce heat losses. Bjorn claimed that the heat pump mod3 saved 15 wh/km. Say it's only 10 wh/km in the EQS due to windows and body insulation. At 563 km (350 miles) of max range, then 10 wh/km would cost the EQS 5.6 kWh or about 29 km (18 miles). ;-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYPYk3iAncRondU But that isn't all... Heat pumps have two big issues. They tend to be slower to heat spaces than PDC heaters... thus jumping into your luxury car in the winter and going may take more time to heat it up with a pump; not exactly luxurious... eh? Second, their efficiency drops the colder it gets, while the PDC heater essentially stays the same. Bjorn's test was at a mild (for the winter) 3C . What if it were -18C ( 0F) . Now the PDC heater may be as efficient as the heat pump, but also faster to heat the cabin. If Merc did add a heat pump, chances are they'd also need to add a PDC heater anyways just to heat up this large car fast enough for the luxury experience.

[@tasokatsionis]

'I bought the fricking car I decide' - love it Thomas!

[@autogefuehl]

😄

[@abraxastulammo9940]

OBD is your friend to configure presets with VW 😉

[@confucius3697]

Simply the best and most to the point phrase in automotive journalism! We love you Thomas

[@Kay_Emm_]

Saving the last driving mode should DEFINITELY be included in the settings! I understand Mercedes' POV on what the customer might want, but more and more with electric cars we are seeing manufacturers giving the customer a great deal of choice.

[@chriss8971]

Impressive knowledge and great presentation by Thomas as always. The guy from Mercedes (apologies for not being able to make out his name) was a great guest. Really interesting video.

[@autogefuehl]

👌

[@scirocco1964]

Yep totally agree. Great review. And all in English. Liked the guy from Merc. I'm a Audi fan but I have to say these new Mercedes are really nice. Very impressive,

[@mattiesmash]

You're exactly right. It is extremely rare that anyone else drives my vehicle. I should have the ability to select "start up in last mode".

[@mikeicee]

LOL the real reason even all Mercedes 2010/11 up "forget" drive mode is due to gaming the MPG regulations. Its literally written in the literature which markets have the forget feature.

[@mattiesmash]

@@mikeicee I can absolutely see that.

[@autogefuehl]

It’s good point but I still do not see the difference how the driving mode would affect the efficiency because recuperation is always active

[@anibalasubramaniam4153]

Great question to Mercedes about the recuperation mode on startup, Thomas! I would prefer my EQS have a recuperation setting in the drive select settings (Individual drive mode). That way it's not only apparent to the user and switchable, but also works for the currently logged in user, not a global setting.

[@autogefuehl]

👌

[@ikgeignirengiu]

I really appreciate the effort you're taking to bring us all types of firsts and exclusives... Personally I'd love to see more design and engineering teams interviews and insights, even over Zoom!

[@paramdeepdhaliwal9694]

Thanks Thomas u rock all the time the knowledge, simplicity, dedication, enthusiasm, energy make u stand out in the u tube crowd u have ur own identity hats off to u greetings from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦

[@autogefuehl]

🙏🙏🙏

[@magnuslarsson337]

Last Driving mode FTW. Link it to the driver profiles that also sets the position of the seat, mirrors, damping, favorite radio stations, dash cluster & infotainment design, temperature, fan speed, air distribution, artificial sound, height of trunk opening, Bluetooth link, driver assistance functions and level etc.

[@OverlordActual]

Last driving mode please. PLEASE. Look I may never buy one of your cars but I would die a little inside if my Model 3 all of a sudden was like "yeah default settings every time, you have to redo all of your customization EVERY DRIVE. Please do a last drive settings. It really makes so much sense.

[@helmutnn]

Good that you asked so intense about OPD. It’s a pain that some Automakers (VW, Mercedes) advocate their customers about what they want. Real OPD with full control over maximum recuperation is a breeze, and every electric car should have the option (!) for the customer to choose this. I was astonished to notice that even in the maximal reku-mode in the ID.3 e.g. you only have around half of the available recuperation under your control on the throttle, but you have to use the break pedal to get the rest. This is awful and it is sad to see that so many new electric cars coming to the market have the same limitations again and again and that car manufacturers do not listen to their customers. BMW had OPD from day one in the BMW I3, in 2013!

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Yes, but you have the bigger half 😉 (0.19 G or so?)

[@hfwilkesjr]

Thanks for a very informative and in depth review. We should definitely be able to tie the one pedal drive mode to the different keys of the vehicle. Rental cars should be able to put it into a more standard mode that doesn’t have the one pedal drive mode. Great vehicle, I’m looking forward to consider it in the future.

[@wernerjacq]

The EQ capacitive distraction button… Has the same effect as looking at your smartphone while driving, do they realise that? I think for a safety first company like Mercedes it is mind-blowing.

[@JoWyns]

I would appreciate the "last driving mode" option. I suggest to couple it to the finger-print reader ;-)

[@JoWyns]

btw, I recently ordered an EQS 350 business line (in Thomas' blue). I initially considered waiting for this (smaller) EQE, but the more practical trunk of the EQS in combination with pricing of the business line pulled me over the line. This review confirmed my choice, since both are technically very close to each other.

[@flyboyflash3184]

As a M-B owner, definitely want “last mode” option vs “reset mode” only. Not many people drive my cars.

[@jefffarmer9200]

Connect last driving mode to the key the same way you connect mirror and seat settings. One pedal driving is a must.

[@harryszeto8292]

Honest and straight forward questions, love this.

[@autogefuehl]

👍👍

[@peterparsons5092]

Good discussion and questions Thomas. 1. Driver settings (including recuperation, seat position, etc) should be optionally saved, and available next time the same driver. The recuperation settings can be stored as part of saving the seat settings. 2. One pedal driving should be available. It is going to become the general technique in the future. I appreciate the comment about the driver exiting a stationary car without it being in Park, but the internal camera (or other sensor) could be used to automatically place a car in park if there is no driver present. Both of these can be optional settings, and they certainly don't have to wait for a mid-cycle refresh. The firmware could be pushed out to vehicles as soon as it is approved. As Thomas often says "Let's go!".

[@davids4696]

Very impressed with the car, especially the range when you compare with the BMW ix 40 and its poor efficiency. Agree that heat is a strange omission though but main criticism of the EQE is the tiny trunk! 430 litres not for families, when's the Kombi coming?!

Unfortunately they don't plan to make a kombi

[@updlate4756]

Comparing the efficiency of an iX 40, a mid-size SUV, to the EQE, a mid-size sedan doesn't exactly seem like apples to apples. ;)

[@marcelwieczorek6604]

This is the worst change in car design for me. A efficient station Wagen is no popular to the manufacture anymore. If you need storage space you need to buy an inefficient SUV or van.

[@davids4696]

@@updlate4756 yes you're right but I was referring to the MB man's comment on WLTP range being met. I tested ix in mixed driving and managed +/- 300 km out of 425 claimed

[@thomastcrapper4100]

You should be able to choose the last driving mode.

[@philipeklund4127]

Great interview and really impressed that Mercedes participates in such recordings. This is a true dream car to me!

[@autogefuehl]

Appreciated!

[@b286guy]

Not quite sure about the exterior, but that interior is just gorgeous 😍

[@oleksandrmirza]

Cool vid, thanks for sharing your eqe experience.

[@autogefuehl]

🙏🙏

[@lennartschoonaert3830]

Coming to a complete stop and being in drive is not an issue for safety, the moment you open the door it goes to park. That’s already the case in many other cars.

[@autogefuehl]

Good point

[@brunopeixoto949]

Last mode for driving mode and start and stop mode should be always a option. Even they need by regulatory laws to start at standard mode, the menu should give us a option to recover last mode of this settings.

[@siLox95]

Jörg Please implement the drive mode safe after shut down and re-entering the car! That’s a briliant idea from Thomas!

[@whitewalker9622]

Wonderful to se Thomas, to the guys at Mercedes, I liked his answer "Everything is possible". I could be a part of a panel to bring forth a no nonsense bare bones electric model like the w123

[@francis5279]

I like it. The interior with the entertainment screen is wonderful.

[@yvesalepin3486]

You do very interesting and good videos Thomas!

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks please recommend 😊

[@ZarlockGE]

Great exploration of the EQE and its features. And concerning your question, yes, definitively offer an option to keep last mode for recuperation and other driving settings. I love the intelligent recuperation mode and am disappointed to hear that this has to be activated after every start. I kind of understand the problem of different users, but that is most likely the exception for cars which are not rentals or part of a business carpool. And also, for different users there is this by now old concept of different settings attached to different keys - so you can keep one setting when I start the car with my key, and another setting when my wife does it with her key. The solution for that problem is certainly within reach, I would be glad if Mercedes used it in the EQE.

[@autogefuehl]

👌

[@aquissuk]

I really appreciate you challenged driving mode. I totally agree, if you drive the car, then go to the local shop for 5 minutes, then you want it to be the same when you jump back in.

[@autogefuehl]

🤟

[@masterrazvan]

Sault, the new Mercedes EQE FIRST RIDE is very cool and incredible!

[@josephlam2072]

I like the EQS very much, the only reason I prefer EQE is the length of the vehicle if you are driver yourself. I have to reconsider the other alternative brand if there is no heat pump.

[@anthonycbrown1952]

While the technology is impressive, I think Mercedes missed the mark on the design details (interior / exterior). Technically competent - absolutely. Character and a signature Mercedes design for EVs - not so much. If one removed the badges, this car could be made by anyone. A mix of screens and hard controls for the interior is still preferred over the design ethos of 'the more screens the better'.

[@davids4696]

When compared with the BMW IX it is a thing of beauty

[@anthonycbrown1952]

@@davids4696 Agree

[@AOTanoos22]

@@davids4696 IMO the rear of the BMW iX is absolutely stunning. The only issue i have with the iX is the front huge fake grill. The EQE on the other hand is ugly from front to back, even the proportions are not right at all, you could still recognize the BMW when taking off the badge, but the EQE could be mistaken for a low end Kia without that Mercedes star.

[@davids4696]

@@AOTanoos22 yes agreed that it is the best side. Main problem is that this is not a family car either... 500 litres of trunk! What is it about German premium manufacturers and cargo space!

[@AOTanoos22]

@@davids4696 as an E-class wagon driver i was looking forward to upgrade to the EQE, but the joke of a trunk space and the limited rear passenger head room made me not. Will wait and see what BMW comes up with, else its gonna be a Model S if they finally bring the refreshed model to Europe.

[@minpark4139]

I vote for “last driving mode”

[@DeeSock]

Demote the person who made no workaround for the setup-the-car-each-time-you-drive-it feature 16:33

[@OverlordActual]

12:50 This is the first time I've heard the manufacturer explain their line of thinking for why they don't want one pedal drive to bring you to a stop. And it makes sense to me. I've only done it once but I was stopped in my Tesla Model 3 and forgot to put it in park and rested my foot on the accelerator and started going. I quickly slammed back on the breaks of course. It's only happened once. I still love 1 pedal driving that brings you to a stop and think all EVs should have the option but nice to hear a reason why they wouldn't.

[@shiakas]

I think its just a matter of adapting to a new reality. Foot on the brake when stopped, foot on the accelerator when going. There is no torque converter wasting energy so why simulate its existence?

[@autogefuehl]

Yeah it’s an interesting argument

[@fadocodecamp]

The first time I drove automatic, I slammed the brakes thinking it's a clutch - happened once, and once only (on the test drive actually). I got used to driving automatic in a day, never looked back. This looks like a one-time problem to me too, you get used to it, and you never look back.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

VW puts the car in park if you lift from the seat.

[@jeromem75]

Yes, last driving mode is a great feature. Looking forward for the eqe SUV version to replace my gle. Great video as usual and thank you for pushing back.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏

[@eyefiregaming]

I also share the same view with Thomas with the regen and it remembers the last time. It could be done by profile you create in the cars system.

[@boenill]

Yes of course! I also want the opportunity to choose to activate the last driving mode setting!!!🙂👍🏻 Come on Mercedes...

[@edgarzamudio5987]

What suction cubs do you use for your cameras

[@rucamorim]

Last driving mode activated: definitely!

[@ilcomendante]

Superb car. And 💯agree with your guest, I don’t think people are that interested in fake sounds and probably enjoy the silence most. The only other sound I would honestly appreciate is good horse and carriage simulation 😉👌🏻

[@moglaiparata]

Just like the AMG line there should be a Maybach interior line for the individuals who would want extra comfort. Not just for EQ models but for the C-Class and up.

[@QuietStormX]

Nice Ride & Review ;-D

[@autogefuehl]

👍

[@bitkahuna]

about retaining individual settings for drivers, it's clear the car has to identify who is driving the car. if it's the owner for example, no reason it couldn't go to individual settings every time the driver gets in, but if a 'stranger' gets in, it probably should go to a default.

[@sg222]

Wow Great Video 👍. Nice to see the debate with official Mercedes engineer. Funny he said we don't need heat pump and then later says heat is a major contribution for consumption at lower speeds 😃. Kind of contradicts himself. But great to see the discussion and criticism directly to them. Hats off Thomas 👍👍

[@Ramkumar-cn7cx]

Stupid. Heat is a major issue and need not be solved only through a heat pump. He didn't say the heat pump is the only way to make it efficient. Have you heard of PTC ?

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks m8!

[@MrFatknacker]

Having no way to switch off “creep mode” in my EQC is an annoyance and I have ceased to really try and drive it one-pedal (as I could on my BMW i3) because ultimately you cannot do so. Like the Tesla it should be a switchable option. Also the option to save your last driving mode would be useful as well. On the basis that there is so much useless rubbish you can select in MBUX, a couple of useful options would be helpful 😉

[@amc182]

The car has a fingerprint sensor. So the settings can be saved in the profile, right?

[@shakesnbake]

Thomas/Autogefühl always with the exclusives 👍🏽👍🏽 #BestCarChannel Do you think they'd do an estate/shooting break version of the EQE?

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏 they surely wont

[@Ramkumar-cn7cx]

@@autogefuehl it's funny how you say they won't instead of they aren't. Are you so sure that they wouldn't want to do in the future as well. You are underestimating a brand constantly Thomas. We don't like this.

[@Harrythehun]

MB should apply driver profiles as Tesla for settings. If you lend it to someone you apply “guest settings “

[@rzu7120]

I agree, you should have the option of staying in the last driving mode. If efficiency is king, why didn't they also use weight-saving aluminum in the EQE? Was it a matter of cost? BTW, I love one pedal driving!

[@Cloxxki]

How much weight could that save, though? Would alu require less or more additional sound deadening? EQS seems to be focused on highway efficiency. Some weight loss will not help too much there.

[@rzu7120]

@@Cloxxki They used aluminum in the EQS for greater efficiency, but not the EQE.

[@davidg8628]

@@rzu7120 Usually it will be more expensive to use aluminum compared to steel, thats probably the reason, to keep costs down.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

How does the weight compare to Model S?

[@updlate4756]

@@davidg8628 Not to mention potential future aluminum shortages and higher repair costs.

[@TheDanishSpaceman]

Nice vid! :) The reduced turning circle feature is nice! However, no heat pump needed?! Mercedes, come on, where is your integrity! Also the automated driving is exclusive to EQS and even then it cannot measure up to the same feature in Tesla, where ALL models have it. The German car makers need to improve fast, otherwise Tesla and China will make them change, in a way not to be desired I think 😅

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks keep tuning in ☺️

[@abraxastulammo9940]

No heatpump means 28 kWh/100 km consumption around town - yeah why not...

[@bindasmail1234]

We need to last setting to be retained and it could be based on derived profiles.

[@mikeicee]

It cant because the EPA MPG ratings... the car has to default to most efficient mode to avoid taxes.

[@autogefuehl]

Very interesting.

[@autogefuehl]

However I wonder how this can make such a difference, because recuperation is always active, no matter if you’re in a harder recuperation mode or if you use the brake yourself

[@hankmoody7521]

Great video, Thomas! One note on the winter efficiency. The problem with high consumption might not be due to cabin heating, but constant battery conditioning at low ambient temperature. Green NCAP tested the ID.3 last year and found it to be highly inefficient at -7°C in contrast to competitors. This might be a common topic with German brands now. Tesla, since introducing its Octovalve, is actively using the battery heat to heat up the cabin in winter and not conditioning the battery to 20°C+. On the other hand, you really have to teach people to actively preheating the battery by routing the car to a charging station. Otherwise you get horrible charging rates.. Not sure what the premium standard will be in the future.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏 Yes that surely plays a big role as well

[@autogefuehl]

So it’s just that Tesla leaves their batteries Cooler ?

[@TheDanishSpaceman]

@@autogefuehl Yes, while driving, but has a more intelligent system where batteries pre-conditions when routing to fast chargers (not only Tesla's own super chargers). This is the premium way to do it. The Octovalve system and the intelligent thermodynamics in the Teslas is something the German car makers need to address, if they need to compete on winter efficiency and Teslas weigh less as well (because of better design and perhaps compromising comfort a bit), this is a positive contributor to efficiency all year round. Tesla is a better EV design by a mile and not standing still.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@autogefuehl No, Kia/Hyundai likes their batteries cool in winter, too 😜

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Did greenNCAP retest the model year 22 from july 2021 where the behaviour seems to be fixed?

[@Hiltsuk1]

Brilliant review Thomas did he mention the EQE SUV coupe 🙏🙏

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏 we ll keep u updated!

[@bitkahuna]

great discussion, great car, winning.

[@RogerM88]

Don't get all the hype about the one pedal driving. Is it so hard to use the foot to press the brake pedal? In my opinion, the one pedal driving could be more prone to an incident for people not used to the feature. I would prefer steering wheel pedals to regulate the level regenerative breaking.

[@ContrarianDC_KAF]

LOL

[@Cloxxki]

Normally I'd agree but in 2022 and spending so much on a car, if you stop pushing the go pedal, it's not a lot to ask for it to slow down to a halt. If only, for safety.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

I like to coast in my car and not have the brake likes always come on unless I hit the brake pedal. I dislike driving behind a car that always seems to be braking and that may show in a one-pedal drive car more than one that can coast. Otherwise, one-pedal driving is OK. I'm not that used to it but driving cars that have it, I got used to it while driving them.

[@RogerM88]

@@benjaminsmith2287 yes, but with the pedals behind the steering wheel you can regulate the amount of regenerative braking. Besides Mercedes-Benz many other Automakers are doing this way.

[@VonMaximo]

When will the prices be made available?

[@sethsmith34]

MB please allow us as owners to select a preferred setting on all for your autos. It could be connected to the user profile.

[@ObserverDingue]

Last driving mode & heat pump options, yes please Mercedes ✅ I think the last driving mode is basically an essential - a car must surely be customisable by a private purchaser rather than priority being given to rental or fleet purchasers. Leave it to the rental manager to reset a car to defaults between customers rather than limiting what a private purchaser can choose. Just have a short-cut option "return to default mode" for when a second driver hops in (or for the rental manager). Another option: stored driver preferences for 2 or even 3 identities. When the driver's phone, already set up with the car, pairs with the car upon opening/entering the car it could be set by choice to default to last driving mode for that person - a typical situation for a couple & you could include seat, steering wheel, Hvac & home screen short-cut settings with this. Also include a manual switch over in the settings too for when "John & Mary" swap driving on a long trip, so the car can simply be told by pressing a button on the home screen who is driving (John, Mary or default) and adjust everything to that driver's stored preferences. Facial recognition?? Nein! Keep it simple and allow the human to be in charge. Make a heat pump part of a winter package that can be purchased by those whose lifestyle and/or location means they wish to prioritise winter long distance driving (+ washer nozzles for cameras, heated wiper nozzles, heated radar cover, headlight washers, battery pre-heating etc. BMW already include most of this, see Bjørn Nyland's thermal camera Geilo winter tests in Norway). For most people, even in locations with hard winters, long trips are the exception in daily life. So for daily use with overnight home charging the reduced range without a heat pump will not be relevant (you can still do 350kms+ in EQS/E). Great review, especially the interaction with the top Mercedes guy who also related his personal driving experiences.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks! Even more details in the next few days on our channel!

[@jtrace1711]

Hyperscreen is awesome!!!

[@pedroalmeida4652]

Regarding keeping driving mode (e.g. auto recuperation, but also other) settings, once the car has - I believe - fingerprint recognition, it would be very easy to associate each setting to a specific driver, with preset settings for non-identified drivers, and even restrain some key settings' memorisation to one or two drivers that would be identified in e.g. the Mercedes Me Portal as "Car Managers" or "Owners" or whatever. Really no big deal, I hope Mercedes will implement this through an OTA update very soon. Looking forward to the real test!

[@Glomby]

The EQE and EQS both have fingerprint scanners and i think even face recognition. So really strange why they don't implement these settings already, maybe they can add this with a software update.

[@tomtierney5848]

Why is Mercedes now pushing the EQE350 when it is failing to deliver the EQS, surely they should focus on meeting customer orders for existing product before selling the new products.👎😠

[@abraxastulammo9940]

It is made in a different factory (Bremen) and has a different battery manufacturer (Farasis).

[@thelifeofbatteries2603]

The fact it doesn't stop with 1 pedal removes it from my shopping list. He said you could get out with it in drive, well how about dropping into park if the door is opened. I'll stick with Tesla until other brands stop doing this.

[@vipolo]

Head of the EqE team holding the wheel so wrong and talking about safety all the time. Man hold the wheel correctly 😎😱

[@steffenhofmann9902]

@thomas and @mercedes 5 Points are a must have for the EQE, now! 5 Punkte müssen von Mercedes noch umgesetzt werden, vor Verkaufsstart! 1. There must be a heat-pump available from the first day of delivery! Es muss zwingend eine Wärmepumpe in das Auto, von Anfang an. Nicht erst zum Facelift (will Mercedes die ersten Käufer bestrafen???) 2. Please program the Option of a real One-Pedal-Drive with the full-stop function! Bitte Mercedes programmiert dringend zumindest die Option für ein echtes One-Pedal-Drive bis zum vollen Stillstand. Zumindest als wählbare Option in den Fahrmenüs! 3. Mercedes, please make it possible to order the headrest pillow of the EQs for the eqe too! Mercedes, bitte macht es möglich die tollen Kopfstützen-Kissen beim EQE bestellen zu können! 4. Please change the touch-buttons on the steering wheel. I had a test drive with the EQS - and it was horrible. Such a great car, and such annoying buttons. Bitte Mercedes, ändert noch die Knöpfe am Lenkrad. Die Touch-Bedienung ist wirklich furchtbar. Ich habe dies (leider) im EQS schon live erlebt! 5. Mercedes, please think about the angle inclination of the Hyperscreen. Your hyperscreen is so great, but the angle in front of the driver is different to a normal used driver-screen. Mercedes, bitte denkt noch einmal über den Winkel des Hyperscreen nach. Der Winkel hinter dem Lenkrad ist sehr sehr ungewohnt und macht ein komisches Gefühl! Please note: it’s my opinion - but I tested the EQS lo time - and decided to wait for the EQE. Now I waiting for order the EQE - but I am disappointed about there is still no heat pump and there is still no real one-pedal-drive!

[@autogefuehl]

Totally agree. Good points

[@cerivista]

It should have an option to set your initial setup as you like.

[@martinsvensson6884]

If you want to reset everything on every start up for some "safety reasons" then at least put a button where everything is easily reactivated again.. Wtih a 1 button push. Let it show up on the touch screen when you sit in the car. If you select nothing then it goes to default. If you select a personal setting then it adjusts everything. Else its at least fortunate then that the seats dont also reset to "default" position every time....

[@shadytawfik2632]

We should be able to enable the last driving mode.

[@TosinSalisu]

Very interesting how it is positioned by Mercedes, in the future it seems this will be completely replace the ICE E-Class & CLS

[@dharminnaik5473]

I HATE that they made the EQA a flipping SUV. I mean an entry point EQ is what the brand was crying out for! These cars are SO large for a company car… Although absolutely LOVE the adjustable integrated headrests!!! Little things but omg the non-adjustable headrests drive me insane!!! 🤣🤷‍♂️

[@abraxastulammo9940]

The EQA concept was so beautiful and had good specs, final car is boring and rather expensive.

[@dharminnaik5473]

@@abraxastulammo9940 completely agree! It’s like a worse version of the GLA… The boot is the size of my CLA coupe’s?!?! Ridiculous homage to everything that is to hate about electric cars.

[@tomeksZzzz]

Very professional as usual from Thomas. Why they do not manufacture 1 or 2 cars only? All look the same, quality and durability calculated anyway only for the leasing time and so on.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏

[@eirik500]

Of course the owner should be able to set his default driving mode at start up! Lacking this is a no-go for for me. "factory reset at each park..."

[@WNL2013]

Yh never understood this … have to restart ur driving mode everytime

[@Marre480]

What a monstruosity. Looks lika a soviet concept Moskvich Istra 2144 from 1985. Incredible someone receiving a salary after drawing this wurstel on wheels.

[@dorist7280]

I truly value your review as the best. I am in California. I appreciated hearing details of the technical truth about EQE compared to the EQS. Many KZbin car reviewers do not know that. For example, 19-inch tires provide you more comfortable ride than 21-inch tires. Standard seats are comfier than AMG version seats. Not everyone desires a sportier ride. I love all about larger-size body EQS, but they are pricy for my budget. In this video, the front seat room is smaller and cozier than the EQS. Are the EQE body is narrower than the EQS?

[@Glomby]

I think the mercedes guy said the EQE is slightly shorter but not really narrower than the EQS.

[@autogefuehl]

Cheers!! Keep following! Hmm got ques about width, we ll try to find out

[@ZKITPO]

@@Glomby 30cm shorter I think-

[@awesomebase]

Couldn't MB just confirm the user on entering the vehicle (i.e. through key fob or on screen or by phone BT connection) and then have a setting where they can decide for themselves what defaults they want incorporated on entry? That would be good... that way if one person wants things to continue the way they were they can do so, and if another driver wants things reset each time they can do so as well.

[@pujarajat]

I wish they would do more user research, rather than taking that I know best attitude. I agree with you Thomas.. I’d prefer to be able to set the mode as a perm setting. I’d bought a Merc, but now I will not until Merc changes their way of thinking about all these. Similarly their view to not include Self-driving on EQE.. they aren’t trying to give the best to each customer. This is completely the opposite of Tesla thinking.

[@dragospahontu]

I know it looks bad, but the design is very functional since it has the lowest drag coeficient.

[@jase9951]

MB Engineer: "Ya, let's annoy the OWNER of the car every day to achieve .1% increased efficiency." Engineers should focus more on overall user experience than achieving unimportant goals on paper that may or may not be valid in reality.

[@RobertPuklin]

Great critical (and apparently uncomfortable) questions asked by Thomas! That leads to better products for us consumers. Not a fan of a big hidden battery buffer, that misleadingly leads to better charging curve (because always charging to 90%). Give us the option to use full capacity.

[@autogefuehl]

Cheers!

[@sebvv5219]

Good question about the heat pump, Thomas. I remember when Telsa was asked about this, bc they didn't have one for a long time either, they replied by claiming a heat pump would be less efficient and even refered to test that should confirm this. In the aforementioned test the heat pump system was indeed less efficient, but this was likely only the case bc of the extremely low ambient temperatur(~ -50°C) at which said test was conducted. tl:dr: I don't believe Mercedes and Tesla. They are probably making excuses for cutting costs and keeping the complexity and weight low. Under normal conditions were heating is used (-25°C ~ 15°C) a heat pump is more efficient and indeed needed in order to achieve the effiency claimed by Tesla and Mercedes.

[@Ramkumar-cn7cx]

For your information. Heat pump is already used in all models of EQA

[@sebvv5219]

@@Ramkumar-cn7cx Right, but how does that help EQS end EQE drivers?

[@Ramkumar-cn7cx]

Because you said they are making excuses yo cut costs and keep the complexity low. If that's the case, they wouldn't have used it in EQA too

[@sebvv5219]

@@Ramkumar-cn7cx Maybe. What are the profit margins on an EQA? What are the profit margins on an EQE/EQS?

[@Ramkumar-cn7cx]

@@sebvv5219 am not a product manager.

[@freddiecarr7602]

Perfect size. This is the standard

[@bengals098558]

I don't live in a cold weather state, I hate the cold lol...would no heat pump be a problem? Not sure of the exact function of a heat pump.

[@chillmeister]

Last driving mode please

[@Z4YD]

Please review the Audi a6 55 tfsi e avant PHEV.

[@jannetapio23]

No way I'll ever buy a car that requires me to set it up every time. This drove me crazy with EV6/Ioniq5. Max regen + one pedal driving every time you enter the car. And no bloody start buttons.

[@walterpotts1376]

I have been a loyal Mercedes buyer I have had several wouldn't consider another brand. My last car was a high spec E-Class which I had for 15 years. I've been patiently waiting for Mercedes to produce an EV car. But I gave up waiting I now have a Polestar 2 AWD and it has been amazing. I think Mercedes have completely lost the plot one pedal driving is so much better to hear you get all this reset is really annoying. I think the comment about no noise is absolutely correct, I tried a Hyundai and you just couldn't shut it up. When you pay this much for a car I don't like the notion of trying to treat you as a on-going cash machine and wanting to charge for more. I also feel concerned about the sealed up hood. The 12v battery is very vulnerable and I can't get to it so I am stuck, that's not a good feeling.

[@moglaiparata]

I would like to have the car remember the options and different modes that I selected tied to my car key or profile.

[@mortenjohansen4193]

Last driver mode please!

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Thomas, thanks for finding out about the (non) one pedal driving - here BMW seems to have an advantage. This guy does not make much sense when it comes to setting your modes, since the car can recognize your profile by fingerprint. It aches a bit Mercedes does not seem to care for customer wishes and best practices, see the non preheating when directly navigating to a HPC as if the driver would not want to charge as fast as possible there. The high weight with all the steel will make the car lose the aerodynamic consumption advantage around town. Very interesting questions, thanks again!

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks keep tuning in!

[@flyboyflash3184]

Maybe you could ask EQE Manager, US EQE launch timing and EQE SUV launch timing. MBUSA advised to ask dealer, dealer advised they have no such info?

[@SDav21]

If he is reading questions and recommendations, can they please tell their bosses to improve the interior material quality of the new C Class which is awful. This feeling is starting to permeate the entire brand. There's also no excuse for making certain features optional and for lowering interior material quality when other mainstream carmakers are improving and offering it all for less.

[@AOTanoos22]

Since the EQE got introduced i always said its more like a CLS EV than an E-class EV. The rear headroom is a joke and as a current E-class wagon owner i was looking forward to switch to the EQE but the very limited coupe'ish space in the rear and the laughable trunk space made it a no go for me. Will switch to an electric BMW 5 series wagon (if they come up with one) or Tesla Model S as a consequence. Gone are the days when Mercedes used to be about the perfect harmony of practicality and luxury.

[@zkBE]

You should have asked are they planning an estate/shooting brake version ;)

[@johnrobson7367]

Personal settings could be set by use of a mobile phone used as a key as done by other manufacturers

[@MICHGO1]

THANK GOODNESS FOR CC. IT SOUNDS LIKE MERCEDES IS TRYING HARD TO CONFUSE THE CONSUMER. IT'S CALLED "E" MORE COMPARABLE TO THE CLS?