First Test, Tuning And A Light Rider Mod! How Fast Will It Go With A Smaller Rider?!? : T1 : Part 6

[@skogpekka]

I ALWAYS enjoy your chill, information-packed, videos. Thank you for all the effort you put into this, it's very much appreciated. 😌

[@49ccscoot]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@scooterbomb2152]

the bikes are a beast man. Love the detail

[@TEAMVISKAT81]

I'm sure people don't test their own scooters as much as you do. but using their butt dyno. it really takes a lot to get a scooter to run well when you don't have a dyno, test and test and then more test. so your scooters are not slow...

[@TaoTaoTye]

sweet video! as a dude whos only 145 pounds this was rly interesting to watch for me. super chill dude, good editing and super informative.

[@jaredkain3021]

Awesome video man, the detail you go in to and data logging is so impressive! amazing how helpful it was that you had data from pre-draggy times and were able to aim for those results straight away. Big respect for sharing the rider weight part, quite an interesting topic that I don't see talked about often so it's refreshing to see some clear encouaging data on it. Keep up the great vids man, take care

[@49ccscoot]

Thanks! If I have the data, I will share it!

[@alexmerkeezy]

My god these bikes are *chefs kiss*

[@zoniyat8519]

Screw the naysayers!! Keep doing what you do man, i have been enjoying the friday upload these past few weeks and hope they keep coming! Ride safe 🤙

[@иванпетров-х9л6е]

like from Ukraine 🇺🇦👍

[@MarkSmith-rc8bx]

I finally got rid of my somewhat tuned Rough House 50/70cc to make some room in my garage... Watching this video makes me regret selling it. A few weeks after selling it, I got a text from the buyer. I was thinking, oh no, it quit running and he wants his money back. Instead, he wanted to know why it was so much faster than his buddy's scoot and what they could do to make his buddy's scoot go as fast... I took that as a great compliment and told him about your channel... I only have 150cc Vespas in my fleet now (at least one is still a 2 stroke) but of course I will continue to tune in to your channel. I have learned a ton from you and appreciate all your help with the RH build. Hope to run into you one of these days on the OC strip.

[@49ccscoot]

A 2 stroke Vespa/Stella is still one of those things I'd like to try one day. ~20 years of living scoots and I've never been on the scooter that everyone thinks of when you say scooter... or at least used to. Now people think I ride a kick/electric stand up. LOL

[@MarkSmith-rc8bx]

@@49ccscoot You are welcome to take my Stella Fireball for a ride any time... I will wait for you by your scoot... Those rocket ships of yours have me more than a little intimidated... haha

[@lespaw71]

So when do you start tuning your belly? ;-)

[@fiftymakdaddy7201]

Now, if only this Mak guy learned how to launch that 600 properly, he might be doing something 😉

[@11bayrat]

Very good information as usual! Thanks for sharing.👍. Is the Tao Tao next? lol. I’ll be waiting.

[@49ccscoot]

It's possible. Probably wouldn't take much to get it on the road. The moped with the 160cc was never finished. I always get distracted with the two-strokes because nothing else runs like them.

[@paulbudford]

I wish I lived somewhere where we could close the roads for testing. 😉 Even on 150 horsepower bikes you can tell the difference weight makes. I only weigh 135 lbs. And it was really noticeable swapping sports bikes with my 220 lbs mate.

[@2taktfriseur]

Dont let ppl fool you with that that your scooters are slow thats bullshit. on those bikes rider weight is nerly everything so in my opinion your scooters are fast ! but sure its more easy for smaller riders to achive better numbers. im a 150lbs guy, maybe thats why i love my 185cc runner and 183cc Piaggio Skr so much they are flying with me on top. Nice video man thank you

[@K4_Stunts]

I got a stock yamaha jog 90 with only a 24mm carb and some cvt work to it and im scared of how fast it is for me, i cant imagine what yours feels like. Good stuff!

[@49ccscoot]

The size of the scooter helps some, because your Jog is very light and compact compared to the Triton. Larger wheels help as well. I rode a friend's Jog with a lowered suspension and seat just a few days ago and it felt so unstable to me. I wouldn't want this kind of power in it. They will wheelie with basically a sport 70 to make it even better.

[@K4_Stunts]

@@49ccscoot Yes i believe so too, a 10 inch tire and a short wheelbase doesnt really make a good recipe when it comes to handling high power. feels like the bike wants to crash the moment it get up to speed. But being a scooter guy we cant help but to chase power no matter how sketchy it is lol.

[@Smallbore2wheels]

Damn, definitely makes me want to keep losing weight 😅

[@AxlMetcalf]

Coming from a personal noodle… I can confirm we be quicker 🤣 My old 50 Barely noticed me on it

[@Rexxy_90]

Yeah, more weight does make acceleration worse. x)

[@49ccscoot]

LOL It's one thing to know that. It's another to see a 4 second difference 0-60.

[@Pierronimo8764]

In Europe during scooter drag-race it's always the smallest/lightest guy of the team who run. Sometimes the team just send a teenager/son of someone.

[@oldgeek29577]

It would be nice if the Dragy had an input for RPM. You could look at his runs verses yours, I wonder if that info would give you some insight.

[@49ccscoot]

High RPM reading on the gauge was 13,920 with max speed 70. Probably similar or less RPM than it would need with me on it to reach that speed.

[@oldgeek29577]

I ride in the same struggle buggy, I am pushing 300 again. I sometimes dream about being lighter and being able to go faster on my scoot. Then I wake up.........LOL!

[@49ccscoot]

The scoots are easier to mod!

[@oldgeek29577]

@@49ccscoot 🤣

[@johncoscia5258]

That's why weight removed from racing cars is first ? I purchased a tuning box of needles for ironing out the difference between soft seizes and 4 stoking. Do you try changing needles?

[@49ccscoot]

Yeah, I change needles as needed. My least favorite part of tuning TBH. Jets are much more straightforward.

[@johncoscia5258]

@@49ccscoot I use 2 phgb and the needle kit with 2.5mm d and a 2.48mm d which soft seizes , same tip and taper. Tuning ain't easy .

[@49ccscoot]

@@johncoscia5258 There is a guy that makes software that maps out needles for DellOrtos and tells where they are richer and leaner and by how much IIRC. He has a KZbin channel and was on my forum for a bit, but I can't recall his name right now. I'm sure it comes up if you search.

[@zacharygillette7810]

These little displacement engines HATE weight, Now imagine a 100-120lbs rider! You would have to change CVT settings to get it to optimal conditions. I weighed myself the other day and was 205lbs😳 was 175lbs a 4 months ago. Wish I could find a (trustworthy)120lbs rider to ride my scoot it would have to do low 3.x 0-60.

[@caiolara7578]

where did you get that stage6 digital tachometer? thanks

[@49ccscoot]

ScooterTuning.Ca

[@MrTakeone51]

I still wanna go to oc with you

[@E-BIKE_Madness]

The gdf is to hard. Make softer spring and lighter rollers. Greetings from germany 🙂

[@E-BIKE_Madness]

You usualy say go as soft as possible if its slipping than go harder on the spring. But you have a mallossi converter that allows for realy soft spring. If it is too hard on the spring than you get a realy bad top speed

[@49ccscoot]

@@E-BIKE_Madness It slips. Then it grabs better with a stiffer spring, but RPM spread is too wide. I think I need a spring with the right profile. Something that is still a bit stiff at low RPM so it won't slip there, but then not as stiff as the pulley opens. That's probably a matter of getting different springs from different brands and seeing what works. Goes hard with a light rider regardless.

[@E-BIKE_Madness]

@@49ccscoot have you tried the stage6 ones ? They have pink springs for the oversize converter. They are exakt for a oversize converter

[@49ccscoot]

@@E-BIKE_Madness I've used a Kombat spring in there for a long time. I have tried generic, Malossi and Polini, but not all recently with this setup. I tried Polini springs that I have for the RC-One (Piaggio) and that increased the RPM spread quite a bit.

[@E-BIKE_Madness]

@49ccscoot i would say give it a try there are made for the oversize cvt 🙂😊 order the pink one and the Orange one 😊

[@My_Gaming_Mind]

Why use a rod and not a tube?

[@49ccscoot]

2 reasons. Often it depends what I happen to have. In this case, I wanted the handle to be very strong so I'd never have to worry about it when I pick the scooter up with it.

[@BilboBaggins-q8k]

Any recommendations on fuel lines . I bought the el cheapo ones and only been a year and cracked I keep my scoot park out side covered walked past it and and smelled strong fuel odor and notice a empty tank I was like WTF

[@49ccscoot]

I just tried some cheap ones myself that seemed good till they had fuel in them. Hoses are hard after a month or less. Tygon F4040A. Genuine... like from McMaster-Carr. If you try to get it some places, it winds up being cheap stuff.

[@darkogligorov606]

Hi my 50cc 2t scooter has grinding noise from cvt and its not going good when i givi it like half and above throtle its grinding hard and its slow down a litl the scooter what you think could be. So it has ne variator rolers clutch everythink new but that grinding sound??

[@49ccscoot]

The first thing I'd do is remove the CVT cover and check things over. Look for signs of contact. It can be a variator or clutch nut loosening or something not spaced right or seated right. Start there.

[@darkogligorov606]

@@49ccscoot i inspect that everythinks is good somethink inside the engine is make that noise but i dont know if it on back of the engine or front

[@49ccscoot]

@@darkogligorov606 Check the simplest stuff first. Look for contact on the stator/flywheel/pickup. Remove the spark plug and see if that gives you a clue or if you can see any issue inside the bore through the spark plug hole.