First Time Reaction | Sabaton - "Father"

[@noahloiselle412]

This song is about Fritz Haber, a Prussian (German) scientist who's legacy is very controversial. Haber (along with another scientist named Carl Bosch) found a way to solve one of the major issues plaguing humanity and science up until that point in time, that is how to sustain the worlds ever expanding human populations (as the Earth does not have enough nutrients present naturally in the soil for us to produce that much food). His work into this topic led him to create the process by which ammonia is synthesized, a key ingredient in fertilizers, which earned him the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1918 (it is estimated in some studies that our current global population levels could potentially be between 4-5 billion people lower if not for this discovery). He was however a very patriotic German, and when the first world war broke out, he actively used his skill set to research and create chemical weapons for the war effort (France used tear gas before this, but it was the German army that first employed such deadly compounds, namely chlorine gas). He personally directed these efforts during the war and showed no remorse for creating such terrible weapons after its end. Furthermore, the pesticide Zyklon-A (which he created) was co-opted and slightly modified after his death in 1934 by the Nazi's (whom had come to power in Germany at that point in time) and turned into Zyklon-B (the agent used to kill millions of Jews in the gas chambers during the Holocaust, hence the part of the song about where his inventions would lead). One could thus argue that this makes Fritz partially responsible in a way for these deaths as well (even if he was not living in Germany at the time and many of his own relatives, who where Jewish like himself where also killed using this compound). He therefore saved billions and also led to the deaths and injury of thousands, if not millions of others. His story truly exemplifies the truly duel nature of most people in history, being both a sinner and a saint. As Albert Einstein (a contemporary and good friend of Fritz and his family) put it "Haber's life was the tragedy of the German Jew - the tragedy of unrequited love".

[@ConsumptiveSoul]

Yeah the father of chemical warfare killed millions but fed billions at the same time

[@EskChan19]

Yeah. The line in the song "During times when there's peace a scientist belongs to the world, during times of war he belongs to his place of birth" is pretty much a direct quote from him.

[@Bannanaaan]

No offense but I’m not reading that

[@papahairy5315]

​@@Bannanaaandidn't ask

[@Bannanaaan]

@@papahairy5315 god I don’t know why I was such an ass back then I was fucking stupid as well

[@michaelmccarthy5455]

I love how they tell of the duality of humanity how the lines are often blurred between good and evil that everything come in shades of gray, not the two polar opposites of pure good and pure evil. *edit* After watching this, I watched their song "Attack of the Dead Men".

[@WolfHeathen]

To be fair, the only reason for why he did what he did was because he knew it'd be a long and outdrawn conflict. He wanted to end it early in order to save more lives in the long run. Also, I think the only realistic way of measuring "good" is if a person does more good than bad in a lifetime. Fritz Haber's gas may have killed 1,5 million soldiers but his ammonia extraction process gave life to 4 billion people across the globe and effectively ended global starvation before it even began. Before Haber, it was estimated that the world would've started starving on a global scale by the 1950's.

[@gaetanhennebert2403]

Thats what i was going to write! This reminds me so much the attack of the dead men! U said it before me so i'll just like a hope she can see ur comment! 😉

[@Tremadog102]

This is so true. Here in the U.K. we frequently see flypasts of the preserved Battle of Britain aircraft, it is majestic to see these aircraft still in the air but Sabaton's song Firestorm evokes the imagery of hundreds of these aircraft firebombing people out of their homes. The song is so powerful to me because Britain's role in the war gets heavily romanticised here but that song shows the uglier side of the war and provides balance in a way. "Father" is another great example of this. His role in feeding the world must be remembered but his monstrous inventions cannot be forgotten.

[@kyriss12]

Not just humanity, but the very nature of certain branches of science as well. The Harbor Bosch process for extracting ammonia nitrate revolutionized farming by bringing life back to dead soil. It also made ammunition a lot cheaper. Meanwhile Harbor’s pesticide cyclon a was further refined into cyclon b, which is the stuff used on the Jews.

[@trollwholivesu7258]

Also the song wehrmacht about “young men who lost their way or proud parts of larger goals”

[@MacKnight]

Lets see what she thinks of the 'father' that is the reason half of humanity is alive today, vs the people who has died because of the same person.

[@WolfHeathen]

It's estimated that approximately 4 billion people owe their lives to Fritz Haber.

[@Kamina.D.Fierce]

History is messy. People are complicated. Simple as that.

[@crudbaskets]

Man literally chose to be both a villain and a hero

[@kingseb2252]

@@crudbaskets he didn't choose he wanted to save lives by making plants grow but the German military forced him to use it for gas

[@srebnywilczek7723]

​@@WolfHeathen Well. Chemotherapy became actually a somewhat efficient therapy to fight off cancer thanks to invention of chemical warfare during WW1. Dunno how many were saved thanks to that

[@MDMetal]

Aileen: "I'm not a big fan of history." Sabaton: "Hold our beer."

[@fredbarnes2600]

Speaking as someone who has a history degree (and might as well actually use it) Sabaton are geniuses at pointing out the inspirations and horrors of history. Sometimes at exactly the same time. Great reaction!

[@SeanB-wi5yh]

This man both saved and killed millions of people

[@rolay504]

Killed millions and fed billiions

[@johannesbenchekmoumou8445]

@@rolay504 true, the Haber Bosch fertilizer is and was one of the key factors for this enourmus amount of living humans and today especiialy tens of billions of cattle on earth. It would be impossible to feed all those animals and humans without Haber Bosch.

[@andreasottohansen7338]

History is only ever as dry as its' teacher. Sabaton proves this incredibly well

[@davidwebb7104]

Dude the face she made when the chorus hits the first time- I felt that! It hits so hard. Freakin love that deep voice

[@seanofarrell8896]

Sabaton never disapoint very good reaction. Aileen

[@maxviking3210]

Perfect pronunciation of Joakims name. Best I heard from a non-swede :) and a great reaction.. as always :)

[@Ravenclaw14_Creativity]

Such a great athmosphere in the video. My "Father" T-Shirt ☠️💚 is on the way to me. Chris did an awesome guitar solo again. And we, the germans, got a new song 🇩🇪😜🤘🏻

[@lionfromthenorth4580]

Sick guitar solo!! Best I've heard!🤘

[@Ephoros]

Right as i was about to type it, i realised how bad it sounds, but please stop hoarding sabaton songs? 😅 The rest of us wants some too. 🤣

[@johnghiglione2641]

When I first heard this song I was surprised at how different this song was from their other songs. It took a couple of times listening to it before it became one of my favorite songs from them. I have been listening to this song a lot since it came out last week. This song called Father will be part of thier upcoming EP by the end of this year or early next year. I saw Sabaton and Epica in Seattle on September 15th in concert and it was so cool. I would highly recommend seeing Sabaton live. Every time they come to Seattle or are nearby to where Iive I will be going to see them in concert.

[@OSSY17]

They have sometimes to do different ways with some songs , that's what makes them better ,can't do same with all of the songs depends on how its gonna sounds ,everything has to fits ,and I'm proud to be from same City where they are from 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 Go sabaton Go 🍁🍁🍁❤

[@johnghiglione2641]

@@OSSY17 I know they have to make their songs sound different. I just wasn't expecting it that is all. But I love this song and all of their music.

[@Denozo88]

I saw them at Gilleys friday sept 30th and the concert was amazing. The band loves the fan and the crowd. The closer was special as they were playing To Hell amd Back in Texas. I waited 2 years to see them and it was worth it.

[@johnghiglione2641]

@@Denozo88 I will definitely be going to see them Live again when they come back to the US and every time they are here again in the future.

[@Denozo88]

@@johnghiglione2641 Same when they come to th northern half of Texas as I refuse to drive 6 hours for any concert.

[@themisfitbrigade]

His invention of mustard gas killed millions, but his other inventions and innovations have saved billions and gave us the ability to have a population like we have today

[@AdamMPick]

No chemical warfare agent was ever invented by Haber. He did invent the first practical delivery method.

[@christophervanoster]

@@AdamMPickI think he’s referring to Zyklon b which did. kill millions

[@ivanthemadvandal8435]

It didn't kill millions. Chemical weapons accounted for less than 1% of deaths (90K-100K) during the Great War. It'd be surprising if it's reached 1 million in the 100 years since given how infrequently they've been used since.

[@ZombieMarine]

This song live was just pure emotion and the guitar solo🥺

[@darklycan4009]

i saw this song live once and they had green smoke come out from everywhere and everyone in the crowd was feeling like they were just hit by the gas. it was an incredible atmosphere.

[@marcineq2k]

Finally SABATON! Haven't seen them here for a while!

[@ZombieMarine]

I shall be seeing sabaton next April in London I'm highly excited

[@AileenSenpai]

So excited for you!!

[@bjoardar]

Fritz Haber was a Prussian Jew (from the area that would later be Poland) and his invention would mean the creation of mustard gas, chlorine gas and ... Zyklon B ... the gas that was used in the gas chambers during WW2. How ironic is that? Like the Eagle and the Arrow: “The haft of the arrow had been feathered with one of the eagles own plumes. We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction.” - Aesop

[@Zabiru-]

You're pronouncing his name pretty much exactly as I would as a native Swede GJ Aileen. This is one of the later songs of Sabaton's that I did not immediately like very much but it grows on you with every listen. Or at least it did for me :) Very interesting story that beautifully highlights the double edged sword that modern Science and it's discoveries and inventions mean for us all. In war- as well as in peace-time. Great reaction as usual! Love the outfit and hair-color by the way. Greetings from the Baltic coast!

[@LordBaldur]

I love how Sabaton plays doom metal when they are talking about atrocities.

[@avatar_of_battle4735]

I'm seeing them October 21st and I really hope they play this song!

[@joshisley4727]

For the other side of the gas attacks, Attack of the Dead Men. It’s about a ‘suicide’ charge of men dying of mustard gas on the eastern front. Basically, they were all dying, said ‘might as well make one last push’ got back up, and attacked. And to the germans…dead men stood up and attacked again.

[@SergioKoolhaas]

Chlorine gas, actually. Mustard wouldn't be introduced on the battlefield until 1917.

[@Kanelraketen]

What a great release, wow. His voice fits perfectly with this kind of storytelling. Great track, great pacing. Great arrengement. And great reaction on your part. Thank you.

[@DraedonTheInventor]

“During times when there’s peace he belonged to the world During times when there’s war he belonged to his place of birth” This line really gets me. Shows how divided and hypocritical we really are.

[@alexanderpreuss0701]

Might also be a reference to his maxim: “In peace for mankind, in war for the fatherland”

[@WolfHeathen]

He wanted to join the war because he thought finding a way to kill as many enemy soldiers as possible in one go would cut the war short and save many more lives in the long-run. In WW2, chemical warfare was banned and it lasted longer than WW2 and ended up killing ~70 million people world-wide as a direct result. Haber's invention "only" killed about 1,5 million soldiers, and the war as a whole had a death toll world-wide of around 8 million in comparison. One can wonder if his invention didn't contribute to the war being cut short after all... However, in the end, "good" can only really be defined as someone doing more good than bad in their lifetime. Fritz Haber most certainly did that by quite some margin. 4 billion lives vs. 1,5 million deaths. I'd say Haber did much more good than bad in his lifetime.

[@undertakernumberone1]

@@WolfHeathen it's the same line of thought as... was it Maxim? Who thought htat the invention of a rapid-fire gun would reduce army sizes and increase the speed of war and as such, overall, reduce the death count.

[@dandyprime5338]

There is another band that dives into history with their songs and albums called Serenity. They are an Austrian power metal band. Their songs are more diverse and focus on world history as a whole and not just military history like Sabaton does. If you want to check out Serenity, I'd recommend the song "Wings of Madness", which is about Countess Elizabeth Bathory.

[@rabiatorthegreat6163]

Thanks for the recommendation, I really like "Wings of Madness". Even if the stories about Countess Bathory bathing in blood might have been character assassination rather than fact. That she was a murderess is historically correct. Iron Maiden also have some lyrics that are rooted in history, examples are "Paschendale", "Aces High" and "Powerslave".

[@flowers2734]

Thankyou for the recommendation , historical power metal is so niche

[@panzr-fox]

Me and the boys after making a deadly concoction in the perfume aisle of the local Walmart

[@Flokarl1]

So many people are reacting to Sabaton and Sabatons videos..... I always waiting for yours! PS: Did you know that Sabaton are in the US right now for a 2 months US/Canadian tour.!!! ...Check out if they are near to you Aileen:-) Oh!h! Your pronounciation of "Joakim" is absolutely flawless and 100% Swedish!!! Amazing really !!! Probably one of the best pronounciation from someone from an English speaking country up til today ;-) Believe me coming from the same country and hometown as Joakim ..I would know :-) You are just great overall!

[@anthonybooth7169]

Saying that "we have Fritz Haber to THANK for this" (emphasis added) seems to miss a significant point. Chemical warfare was so terrible that it is now banned, and was rarely used even as soon after WWI as WWII. The only thing that people ought to "thank" Haber for is a process that is used to produce fertilizers today, which cause an estimated 4 billion people to owe their lives to him. Otherwise, I liked your review.

[@danielkarlsson258]

You reacting to Sabaton is an experience every time. Love it! Keep up the good work! 👍😄

[@ambersmith9694]

I love how all of us make the same face when we hear this chorus, we all look so disgusted while simultaneously getting goosebumps

[@jameswolfblood]

Quite honestly this has to be one of, if not my favorite chorus from Sabaton. So bloody powerful \m/

[@patrickmcguinness1410]

The last verse "Where will this lead? Where will this end?" is a reference to WWII. See, Haber, the man responsible for chemical warfare in WWI, was a Jew, and uh... well he created the poisons that were used in the gas chambers. In the concentration camps. Granted he didn't know it would come to that when he made the stuff, but still... "where will this lead" indeed.

[@wonderdakka]

I thought of is as a caution that all inventions can be changed. But i didnt make that connection, well made.

[@MetalGoat84]

Check out the Sabaton History channel. They already uploaded a video where they explain the facts behind this song.

[@Neoentrophy]

Haber also created the Haber process that is single handedly responsible for the food on your plate and probably your very existence. He was a scientist, he invented tools, as scientists always do, but how those tools are used are up to the rest of us. The universe is only ever an increasing variety of grey shades

[@amnofish]

You're the only none-scandinavian I've heard that does pronounce Joakim right.

[@sandgroper1970]

Sabaton equals a history lesson in the form of song. Some of my favourites are the recent Christmas Truce, Nightwitches. Bismarck..

[@siggedrake]

The "thing" is that mr haber invented both gas for war, but also ways to feed the world. You should invest a few minutes and watch sabaton history channel. Where their songs are explained. (if you want to know even more history ;-)

[@colinmackay92]

YESS!!! Finally another sabaton reaction! Do more!

[@Redoake]

Fiver finger death punch - Rememer everything is a very good and powerfull song!

[@davidprag969]

Love the solo and the interlude part.

[@nightfyrestudios]

You should really check out the animated story videos for Red Baron and No Bullets Fly. Those are some of the best besides The Unkillable Soldier.

[@najroe]

animated STORY videos of "no bullets fly" and "Night witches" are amazing. check out their history channel.

[@MageThief]

Yes, you pronounced Joakim perfectly 🤘

[@chrisumana7644]

Those Castlevania vibes, the morale of the story does one man's good outweigh his bad. Fritz Haber is also known for revolutionizing Agriculture by producing synthetic ammonia that allowed producing high yield crops and winning the Nobel prize for his creation unfortunately his discovery was then bastardized by his government and used as a weapon to cancel many people in one of the most horrifying ways imaginable hence the moniker Father of Chemical Warfare.

[@Myomer104]

Less bastardized and more he was recruited to make chemical weapons. He even oversaw the first combat deployment of chlorine gas.

[@chrisumana7644]

@@Myomer104 to be honest I thought that was case I thought he willingly used his discovery to create toxic gas, I case I was mistaken

[@MichaelTaylor-qp2xf]

Sabaton are one of my favorite history teachers. I've learned so much about history outside of the United States because of them. I never heard of the name Fritz Haber before this song.

[@thebulletproofpoet1744]

I remember when we had to sit in a room filled with teargas then say our name before we could put our gasmask on.

[@Argyle117]

I’d love for you to listen to their “lady of the dark” “race to the sea” or “price of a mile” all of which are absolutely amazing songs, and very bombastic if you like that kind of songs.

[@jean-francoispirenne6518]

Haber helped also in developping a cyanide-based insect and rodent killer, used in the industry for sanitizing the cargo holds of merchant vessels and the crop storages: Ziklon (cyclone in english). The product was further developped as cristal form in 1922 and renamed Ziklon B. The same chemical has been used in the death camps for the Final Solution. It is still used nowadays in the agriculture industry, under the name Uragan (Hurricane). Makes you think!

[@Kyle-gw6qp]

Fritz was himself Jewish, and fled the country in, IIRC, 1933. An important note.

[@TravisLoneWolfWalsh]

I love how the art is like the re-animator

[@Huntress236]

Sabaton is on your in the US like right now.

[@christopherkroh6746]

They have another extreemely chilling song regarding chemical warfare called attack of the dead men which literally brings tears to my eyes, about a russian army that was hit with gas and they as their enemy approached their side of the battlefield, the remaining russian soldiers launched a counterattack coughing up their own insides looking like zombies scaring the enemy away and successfully defending their fortress

[@marius4729]

This song is nothing else than AMAZING! Could you react to “No Bullets fly” from Sabaton?

[@gianfrancobellinirojas40]

I recommend see the Sabaton's History channel in KZbin, it's very educational and they explained already how was this Father, Oh man I never thought too many people own their live to his work, he won a Nobel Peace Prize.

[@matthewcook2496]

Always love your video Aileen!

[@snowmexicanowens8431]

I had read that the creator of the gas never intended for them to be used the way they were by the German army and upon learning of the results he took his own life out guilt and shame!

[@kyletemple6351]

Dam this song adrenaline pumping

[@andrewcastanon8114]

Monuments- Opiate, song not only slaps and the meaning but Andy has been huge since he joined them

[@alexandercebulla2328]

If I may, I recommend watching the Sabaton History episode of this song.

[@NIGHTSHADE1997]

Poison gas this would actually lead up to a battle in what’s today known as Poland and is know as the attack of the dead men which is also a song sabaton has done

[@Sanguine_Addiction]

I recommend Halloween (full 13 minute version) from Helloween.

[@ajrey8457]

your pigtails are to cute for such a serious song

[@pederthomsen2393]

I think they are touring in the Us now.

[@FujisamaProductions]

This is a great song. Glad to have listened for the first time with you! :3

[@fredbarnes2600]

Thanks!

[@samuel10125]

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[@joelout]

Chorus gives goosebumps

[@anthonybooth7169]

Would love to hear your thoughts on Sabaton's Winged Hussars.

[@Zeraphim]

Three songs i'd love see you react to is Lady of the dark and No bullets fly (the animated history video) aswell the animated history video of Night Witches.

[@gunmasterx1164]

the song is about a man named Fritz Haber who was the creator of Chlorine Gas and Mustard Gas

[@martenkahr3365]

Also the inventor of synthetic ammonia, without which global agriculture would probably have collapsed with a peak human population of around 4 to 5 billion.

[@kubulajagodzinski4355]

nice song to react

[@torbjornsjooander5625]

You should react to Tommy Johansson The leadguitarist in Sabaton He have his own youtubechannel with a lot of amacing cowers His singingvoice is amacing He is an multiinstrumentalist and play all the instrument himself The show must go on Queen cower, maybe 😏

[@phoenixprotocol7]

Definitely should give thier Stormtroopers animated video a watch, makes me wanna go for a run, and I'm not a runner lol.

[@Ookititi_Tribe]

sabatons greatist song yet

[@danielboll52]

This new song kicks ass- And, got a song recommendation: Blood For Blood(Faoladh) by Powerwolf. I know ones that don’t have live performances or music videos to them aren’t near as popular, but my favorite song by Powerwolf that I think deserves a lot more Love. It’s got a rather unique sound to it, semi-unique scheme to the music, and utilizes even bagpipes in parts of the music. It’s one of their most energetic songs, and that’s without even bringing up the final chorus. That’s in a league of its own as unconditionally my favorite piece of music.

[@centurio101]

Humanity can be very creative when it is about killing each other…

[@benpurcell4935]

This song is connected to Attack of the Dead Men in the way that chemical warfare was used to try to take a fortress by the Germans.

[@agromx224]

i LOVE this band. when could i ever debate about the good and bad about toxic gas? Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch invented some mechanism, to artificially create Ammonia. the Haber-Boschä-verfahren created the mechanism to create artificial ammonia. THAT sparked the agricultural revolution. in the end, it DOUBLED the overall production. but the same procedure made mustard gas and killed MANY! SAINT - OR A SINNER?

[@Nick-sh9dy]

You should listen to no bullets fly the animated music video or 82nd all the way and shiroyama.

[@DukeBuse]

I would recommend Swedish Pagans from Sabaton, one of my favorites

[@grimm516]

Hope the music encourages you to check out the extraordinary story's behind the songs But ya the haber bosch process an important step to help farming but also lead to modern chemical warfare

[@kelvinth117]

another good song about a women soldier is the song is called lady of the dark its reaaly a good song.

[@antivanti]

Btw your pronunciation of Joakim is virtually perfect 👍

[@Murvelhund]

That was a great pronunciation of Joakims namn, you did good😁

[@jamalsampson9389]

They seriously remind me of Rammstein. I'm actually enjoying this! Nice upload today.👍👌

[@ghouldr1964]

If you enjoy Rammstein, you may enjoy the Swedish band with a german title called Raubtier! The singer Pär Hulkoff is good friends with Joakim and Sabaton and they did a collab as well

[@jamalsampson9389]

@@ghouldr1964; I'll check them out.

[@onibformi3590]

faber bosch allowed it till today- great guys

[@wesleythomas7125]

We have very different interpretations. I think "what's coming next" is in reference to the use of gas in the Holocaust...

[@sharkbait_11b]

You should react to their performance at waken with Tina guo it's epic

[@ichbinlustig3896]

As a German I once again apologize for all the pain this „superweapon“ caused throughout history!

[@connyberglinmolander511]

You should watch the Sabaton History ep on this song.. 😎🤘

[@larslarsson4031]

This is not their best song but possibly their darkest song

[@Witchking66]

which does make it a bloody good one

[@NikesZ28]

Dont know if you read it but the contradiction is that he first created fertilizer that still today feeds billions of people, then that same sience made toxic chlorine gas. So sinner or saint!? Both i say.

[@matthewcook2496]

I agree! World history will explain why American history happened

[@awesomechicken5551]

you should react to the final solution by them its a very sad song but its very good. you should also watch sabaton history that tells you a lot about the songs that you are listening to.

[@ghouldr1964]

And today it's Joakim's Birthday!

[@robertcole3247]

Really digging the outfit, like a Wednesday Addams/Blake Belladonna mashup

[@michaelfurman7912]

Hey girl I absolutely love watching your reactions and was hoping you could do a Deftones reaction maybe?! "you've seen the butcher or Digital Bath or My own summer, I know you'll really jam to these guys, they truly are an amazing band 🤘

[@natesaunders2105]

You should definitely listen to price of a mile by Sabayon it is quite good

[@ihavespoken5450]

Not a fan of history? Guess who'll be repeating it

[@adventofknowledge]

The crazy thing about Haber and Bosch is that the very thing they created to quite literally help humanity, also resulted in one of the most devastating weapons ever conceived killing millions. It is the great irony of science that with every great discovery that benefits all or is just generally good and harmless there is another that always comes with it, that which is too great but is horrible as well, big or small. The creation of fireworks lead to the creation of missiles. The creation of the first flying machine eventually lead to the creation of the bombers of the blitzkrieg The creation of the first printing press created the first printed propaganda followed by an immediate war brought about by that propaganda. The discovery of atomic energy led to the creation of the atom bomb. It goes on, not all scientific discoveries lead to such ends, it is a choice of the scientist themselves just as Haber chose. Yet still, it occurs nonetheless. Eventually we will create something so incredible, that its shadow will be so awful that we'd dare not consider it at all.

[@haegstrom]

Oh yes, hit me

[@jaimesaavedra9881]

Have you heard HUNTRESS. JILL JANUS. The song height of swords