ROADIE REACTIONS | Sabaton - "Father"

[@luanaxoxo2905]

As Joakim said in an interview: "None of what we say are our opinions, these are things that happened, so if you have a problem with that you have a problem with history and not us". Nothing more needs to be said, that says it all. And I loved the song from the first second, it's so catchy, I've had a catchy tune from it every day since the release of this song.

[@adamhanson5565]

I think they're not immune to critism about the way that they frame things, who they chose to glorify & how they glorify them, but overall I do disagree with those criticisms. They've got a big catalog & are bound to have made some choices that some people find distasteful. Joakim has also come out & plainly said that he thinks that war is a terrible thing, and that absolutely comes out in their music.

[@marcoflorestello]

@@adamhanson5565 they played in occupied Crimea at a far right organized festival so f them.

[@lorakline3922]

History is one of the most subjective topics. Not complaining as every nation should have their own verzions and mythos. Thats one of the things that keeps us different and unique. Of course wars and death are fought over such things. But thats part of the beauty

[@istvankarolyfarkas6125]

@@lorakline3922 Versions of history? Living in a country where we have lets say some bad blood with our neighbours, both sides having their own versions makes reconciliation .... "messy" .

[@EskChan19]

@@adamhanson5565 That's the point though. They glorify herosim and compassion, no matter who shows it. Just because someone holds views you disagree with that does not mean that them giving their lives for what they believe in is less heroic than someone who happens to be fighting for your cause. Obviously that doesn't count for those who pull innocents into it (like extremist suicide bombers), but in the trenches of a warfront a US marine can be just as heroic as a nazi or soviet. Sabbaton celebrates what they did and not who they were. They have not once glorified any inhumane deeds they have never glorified any terrible actions, they celebrate compassion and humanity. If they sing about a great person doing a great deed, then if you get offended by said person not having been born in the country you would have prefered them to that is your problem, not Sabbatons. They're not immune to criticism, but any criticism of that kind I have come across was unfounded from people who didn't understand what the song was about or who took offense to a hero being celebrated because they happened to have fought for a side they don't like. So while you can obviously criticise whatever you want, any criticism I have seen so far was bullshit and snowflakes who think that if you are on the wrong side that automatically makes everything you do evil and anything you say wrong. The kind of people who think that the sky would turn pink if a nazi said it was blue, because nazis are evil and therefore everything they do is evil and everything they say is wrong. And I'm sorry but that's simply not criticism you can take serious in any way. That's just special snowflakes being naive.

[@1991jwp]

Fritz Haber is a name every chemistry student knows. Billions of people alive today owe their lives to him and the method he developed of synthesising ammonia on an industrial scale, making possible the mass production of fertiliser and increased yields of food crops. But, his work also caused untold suffering to thousands of soldiers who found themselves on the wrong end of a gas attack. Haber's complex legacy is a good lesson that science isn't inherently good or evil- it's what you choose to do with that knowledge that counts.

[@cryptlocker6851]

Additionally, what came to be known as Zyklon-B was made by him, intended as a pesticide, but used by the Nazis to use in the Holocaust.

[@Stella_Sebarron]

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like the guitar solo adds to the dichotomy in the song. A man that earned the Nobel Peace Prize, who also helped make a weapon with a high body count. The darkness of the chorus reflects the war, and the uplifting guitar solo to reflect the good he did in his life. After watching the history episode for this song, I actually have great respect for Fritz Haber.

[@flyer3849]

just my thoughts as well

[@samuelbudzinak]

He got Nobel prize for chemistry, not peace

[@webIQ162]

He may have killed millions but he did save billions...

[@themisspultone]

Works well with Dulce et decorum est

[@zodiachimera7557]

I think part of the reason the solo is so upbeat compared to the rest is because it *is* such a complicated subject. Yes, Dr. Haber *did* father chemical warfare with his creations of chlorine & mustard gas - a horrific new type of weapon that he believed was simply the natural evolution of warfare just like firearms were before it. He also created the Haber-Bosch process and that allows for the global population to be as large as it is without large-scale famine being as frequent - which really is a moment of triumph for our entire species. Both are used to this day, and sometimes it can be difficult to reconcile that they came from the same man.

[@TankTheTech]

Great take on the solo work, honestly. 🤘🤘

[@jarlbreadmaker]

Things become even more complicated after the war, as scientists under his insitution created Zyklon A leading to Zyklon B, which was the gas the Nazis used, including on some of Haber's own extended family. Interestingly, his son would become an economist in the UK and publish a complete history of chemical warefare in the Great War.

[@kyriss12]

Unfortunately his work on agriculture got demoted to a single line “fed the world be means of science”

[@user-xj8kg9ni2n]

@@kyriss12 Well there is also "Haber-Bosch the great alliance" and "and on the fields the crops are grown". But yes the focus seems to be on chemical warfare.

[@Zael_Moonblade]

Well they do mostly sing about the War aspect of history lest we forget.

[@aethernaj]

This was instantly one of my favourite sabaton songs, the chorus is so sick.

[@titaniac3037]

For me it's a tie between this and Resist and Bite, because I really like both intros

[@letheas6175]

I still want to hear something more unique/different. Like Cliffs of Gallipoli, still my fav

[@Suo_kongque]

@@letheas6175 cliffs of Gallipoli is really REALLY good

[@letheas6175]

@@Suo_kongque I know right?? Such a masterpiece holy shit

[@8tonystark8]

Wish I could understand how

[@qazxswedcvfr868]

I thought the solo sounding "happy" was another form of the duality of Fritz Haber, the part that fed the world. Where as the chorus was about the horrors he had created. And it all flows back to the question "Sinner or a Saint?".

[@SWE87HS]

This song has the same dark feeling as an old, maybe a little forgotten classic Rise Of Evil has. One of my personal favourites.🤘

[@dimonsimon6973]

i love the fact that they use "father" and "the attack of the dead men" back to back live. (they did in london in 2023 when i attended, great concert btw)

[@samanthar1214]

They're going to be releasing 4 EPs, each with one new song, the rest of the songs will be from the last 2 albums that tie in with new song ie this first EP is invention. I saw them in concert last month is Oakland and got to meet the band beforehand at a meet and greet. Concert was awesome!

[@samanthar1214]

@@ninjutsu01 You are absolutely correct. No idea where I got 4 from lol

[@esalaine4711]

1) the beginning sound could be from any renessaince-era Dimmu Borgir track. Not a bad thing. 2) the song has some vibes that reminds me of Final Solution, and the message is equally strong. That's heavy history.

[@leoniefouquet9624]

For me the style of the song was a lot like Inmate 4859

[@Igorilianu]

What i love about this song is that it shows the both sides of how a man ca be percieved inhistory and how much the context mattersm banger lyrics but most importantly the guitar s make this song be a great

[@Nystromj1]

It was probably fitting that Sabaton and Epica toured the U.S. together recently! Sabaton's music is all about real history, war, real events, while Epica's lyrics are are consistently deep and thought provoking! I thoroughly enjoy both these groups and it is fitting for the times we live in!

[@Andy_from_de]

The History video to this song is very interesting

[@Jarachif]

I'm honestly loving the darker vibe they have been doing lately with their stuff. Also you should check out septicflesh sometime. Amazing band

[@TheCody1707]

The chorus has been stuck in my head since it came out.

[@mrenut8358]

As a sabton fan myself this is my favorite one than made

[@Denozo88]

I got to see them Sept 30th 2022 at Gilleys and man was it awesome. The band was so happy to play in Dallas again. They truly loved the crowd being involved and playing their song about the Texan legend Audie Murphy. When they come back to Texas I will go for another concert. Joachim is a natural baritone like myself and here he was in his bottom bass 2 range. The dichotomy of Haber is how all historical figures should be viewed in.

[@shirohime559]

As a chemistry student we studied him and the the chemist process and what they did during the war with it.

[@TheItalianoAssassino]

Instant top 10 Sabaton song for me. The chorus gave me goosebumps the first time.

[@sisu_of_finns]

I am so happy you didn't try to include the chemistry part behind all that. I have seen others reactors do that and fail horribly. Even the chat in your twitch was wrong a bunch of time. I appreciate when people speak about things they understand. The reaction itself was great! as always. Keem 'em coming! -Sisu

[@TankTheTech]

I mean, I purposely didn't because I didn't want to disappoint you. 😂

[@mauricioramirez5948]

I'm still hyped af that I got to see them in Oakland last month and even got a chance to go to their meet and greet. Such cool guys.

[@KennelGuyTries]

It's great when the meet and greet goes well. I've met some bands that were total a-holes and others that were really cool. The guys from Jackyl are awesome. The guys from A Killer's Confession were really cool and hung out with me and my friends after their set. They talked to anyone that wanted to talk to them. I won't name the bad ones. Not worth it.

[@calebsanders4209]

How did I miss them in Oakland?!?!

[@Delta2414]

This is such a great song. It went almost immediately into my top 3 of Sabaton songs.

[@mattpiemonte2826]

Can't wait to finally see them next week in Boston! Was supposed to see them last year but it was canceled

[@ZBilbs]

Solid song, fills like a combination of Dreadnought and The End of the War to End All Wars

[@blajake]

This became one of my all-time favorites with Sabaton after like 3 listenings :)

[@karlanderson2231]

It is super catchy, and different yet still obviously Sabaton, really like the experimentation they have been doing the last couple of years while they were stuck not being able to tour.

[@rickardnilsson350]

I saw Sabaton for the second time in Detroit a few days ago, Definitely one of the best concert I ever attended.

[@TankTheTech]

Same, man. Same. Haha

[@Astridpixiedreamgxrl]

I have been waiting on you to react to this!! This quickly became one of my favorite Sabaton songs, especially because of the dark vibe & it’s so close to Halloween!

[@DanMansson]

I have been following your channel since the early days and I like how its growing,not only subscribers but allso with your contact with recordcompanys,doing interwius, meet bands and a tourmanager! (I hope EC will do the Us tour later )

[@TankTheTech]

Thanks for being here for the ride!

[@Caveamatrix]

I love your reaction videos. You've honestly inducted me to 5 to 8 more bands I listen to now and follow that I never knew about. Keep up the great work.

[@kylehoffman7396]

Oooh was hoping you’d go over this song :3 can’t wait for tomorrow morning!

[@Mayfired]

So cool to watch you record this live! Great video Tank!

[@SuperMan-ij6vt]

If you haven't yet, check out their song Inmate 4859. It's probably even more dark than Father is, and is easily a top 5 song for me

[@tobiasholst8946]

Sabaton is the best live band ever and the best way to lern history about war awesome video Roadie 🤘🏼

[@KennelGuyTries]

Love the change up for the solo. I feel like the change to the "happier" solo is a great play on the contradiction of: Here's this guy that did so much good in peace time and then turns around and causes so much damage in the time of war. I could be way over-analyzing this but that's the vibe I got as soon as I heard the key change for the solo. Anyhow, I've heard a couple songs by these guys and liked it a lot. They did a fantastic cover of For Whom the Bell Tolls. That cover put them on my radar. I love the singer's voice.

[@richardjosephus6802]

I saw them in Atlanta on Oct 4th ,I think outside of the one song they sang in Swedish, Everyone sang most of the songs...

[@KennelGuyTries]

@@richardjosephus6802 If they come to Raleigh, NC I'm there.

[@randyham8288]

Just watched these guys with Epica here in Vegas at a small venue. They both were amazing.

[@ludovica1914]

The mixed vibes are because he invented a gas that killed so many people but he also made an enormous triumph for fertilization with his synthetic ammonia.

[@davidcole535]

I saw them last year with Judas Priest…..then the megadeth/LoG tour the next day and Sabaton definitely put on the best show.

[@sixtofive]

I just saw them in Cincinnati, and yeah, it was an amazing show! My son had become a big fan so we drove over from Indianapolis to see them. I'm definitely a fan now as well.

[@007Marke]

So happy to finally see a new Sabaton reaction from you, tank! Can't wait for more reactions to songs from the last album, especially "Stormtroopers", "Lady of the Dark" and "Valley of Death"! keep up your great work, pal! :)

[@dougel4709]

And there we have it!! I finished your Nightwish list a couple months ago, and now your Sabaton list! Time to start diving into other random videos of your!!!! LEEEETS GOOOOO!!!!!

[@denhed78]

this song really grows and chorus are 👌

[@typeomaiden4038]

I saw Epica/Sabaton in Oakland and it was amazing!! Only eclipsed by Iron Maiden the following week. I've only listened to this song a couple of times, but it randomly got stuck in my head this week. So it definitely grows on you.

[@JensHassan]

Please bring this back!! Love your Sabaton reactions

[@helheimx]

Sabaton just Released the the support lineup for next spring european tour, the bring back Lordi who was announced for the original tour, and now Babymetal Squueeeee.

[@Scaevola9449]

There's no arguing as to Haber's legacy, the man was one of the greatest contributors to human wellbeing in history. Those who died because of chemical warfare don't even begin to compare to the lives his work saved.

[@Sandalphonn]

I saw them in Silver Spring MD. great show, very small venue

[@kingwolf396]

I have always thought of Sabaton, Valley of Death, to have my favorite guitar solo/bridge section of all their music, this song takes second place for sure. And if your wondering why the guitar solo was uplifting, I theorize that it's intentional to show the 2 sides of Haber's accomplishments, the happy uplifting sound for his achievement in feeding 2 thirds of the world and causing a global population growth by almost triple to quadruple, by inventing synthetic Ammonia to be used in Fertilizer and Freezer box cars, with the dark chorus and vocals to represent the horrors of death caused by his use of Ammonia for Chlorine Gas. If you are unfamiliar with what Mustard gas and Chlorine gas does, it basically liquifies the lungs from the inside out, causing internal bleeding and suffocation. (At least I'm dead certain)

[@JohanHaagg]

Sabaton are awesome. Funny fact about the Carolus Rex album made the sales of history books about Sweden skyrocket.

[@deathtozemotherland]

I don't know why but it gives me really strong vibes of cod zombies and I'm totally down for it! Also that guitar solo is some straight up Kenny loggins shit hahaha

[@SergioImbarlina]

How awesome was it your very first Sabaton show & you got the complete behind the scenes access? Congrats Tank!!!

[@lionfromthenorth4580]

To me this became a new favourite Sabaton song!🤘 The guitar solo is also one of the best I've heard! 🎸 (I think it's Chris playing... ) Great reaction, btw!🤘

[@Rubbish_]

I damn well nearly threw the pencil I was holding when you said you got to hang out with the band man I’m damn jealous. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Chivalry669]

the choir in the background so reminds me of Journey's "mother, father" :) bloody lovely

[@kingbrunswick7374]

Also just saw Sabaton about a week ago in Cincinnati, was amazing

[@chrislijoi9997]

Going to see the show on Tuesday in Philly, super excited for it!

[@jemrockton]

I, too,have the feeling, Jocke unpacked his deeep down range for this. And yes, being a baritone, he sings/ can sing pretty deep.

[@Archerfish1977]

Another one of their songs that is somewhat based near Nashville is 82nd All The Way, which is about Sgt Alvin York in WW1. The Sgt York State Park in Pall Mall, Tn has an autographed vinyl album of The Great War on display in the old family home.

[@EricMcLuen]

Crud. Really wished I knew they and Epica were in Chicago about a month ago.... But a fascinating song. His range is lower and fits well with the music for one of the more interesting topics they have chosen.

[@aprilvoecks5877]

A month ago? You mean LAST WEEKEND. I found out too late to make plans to go downtown. Personal opinion: The lower register conveys "menace" and the darkness of the human heart. By making the beginning of the chorus very low pitched, it brings a feeling of horror towards the side of him that is the "Father of toxic gas and chemical warfare"

[@samuel10125]

While its a song about Fritz Haber it's almost message talking about the morality of science and being careful with what you create and to the people saying it wasn't his choice it very much was he even instructed the German military on how to properly deploy it.

[@sordi92]

I’m digging the new Tank photo shopped thumbnails 🤘🏻

[@petervenkman69]

Saw your interviewed bit on the Sabaton Vlog, well done!

[@Direwolf13PS3]

Similar to Hiram Maxim's creation of the Maxim Gun (machinegun) Haber-Bosch believed chemical weapons would act as a deterrent to enemy attack, and thus war would be short or not waged at all. Unfortunately humanity is all too keen on using whatever weaponry is available to seek victory.

[@justicar77]

The Nashville show was great! I didn't know you were there too! Can't wait to see them again though!

[@jarret5000]

song came out with t -shirt and bought them right away wore it to Chicago show

[@sniperscooby7419]

I love the part from 3:52-4:05 (guitar)

[@WarlordX7]

i was at their concert in LA it was hella fun and it was my first ever concert and i hope to get to see them again. funny enough a few blocks from where sabaton was playing, rammstein had their on convert.

[@Fireguy112]

The show in Nashville was amazing, I didn’t want it to end! Keep up the good work Tank!

[@princessjava42]

Epica/Sabaton concert was so much fun! Just got to see them last week. \m/

[@HereticalKitsune]

Such a rough song, in regards to the topic, but I love it~

[@tai0025]

I was at that show! Loved how they changed up the setlist to honor the 101st Airborne!

[@ForgottenHonor0]

This came out at the perfect time of year, with such a haunting and spooky tone it's perfect for Halloween!

[@drbalcerzakknowschemistry]

So wanted to hear this at the Ryman! It’s a great one.

[@brandanmckenzie]

monday can hurry and get here going to see them in pittsburgh

[@zauselbart]

Completely agree with the whole Sabaton make me want to learn more about the History argument. Same with the Band 1914. Especially the ww1 stuff, as we did not learn much about it in school here in Germany ,whereas WW2 got pretty much hammered into our heads in history class.

[@caintovar3500]

I went to their concert in vegas

[@buttonanastasia]

Great video as always, Tank. If you haven't already check out LADY OF THE DARK. Such an awesome story.

[@a7x3179]

Yes there is

[@jandl1jph766]

Fritz Haber is possibly the single most controversial figure in modern science - his work together with Carl Bosch to make ammonia is literally what's keeping some 80-90% of humans alive right now, by enabling the kind of mass scale agriculture needed to feed everyone. The two men got well deserved chemistry Nobel prizes for that. On the other hand, Fritz Haber also did basically all the research for early chemical weapons, from synthesis at scale to deployment. He and his associates made the chlorine for the first ever chemical attack and the man himself gave the command to open the valves. He saw first hand the suffering his invention caused and, by his own words, considered it a necessary evil - not pretty, but, to his mind, justified as a way to break the stalemate and end the war. Was it, though? If it was, does that make him a hero? If it wasn't, does that make him a monster? You'll have to make up your own mind, I'm not sure either way.

[@frog_mug3172]

Coming from a live show they used this before attack of the dead men to prelude the use of toxic gas

[@hakansundstrom975]

this is a great song, happy weekend to u from sweden.

[@mr.clumbus5470]

I was there in Nashville too it was amazing!

[@skillBpro]

Weapons of the modern age is part 1 of 3 from what's going to be known as Echoes of the Great War. This Ep's main focus is the creations from WW1

[@skillBpro]

The 2nd and 3rd EP's will also contain a single.

[@seanofarrell8896]

It personally is the slowest song they dropped not my favourite but like the way it sounds for the story but the happy solo through me off there

[@lapisinfernalis9052]

I am a chemist and I really love this song. Everything you invent might be used for both good and bad. That's the way of science.

[@patrickschardt7724]

Dat chorus doh. It reminds me of Carolus Rex. I can’t place songs that feature his deep voice but I love it. As for the EPs this is part of the first which is the only new song. The other EPs will have more new songs to my knowledge

[@zxanderkr]

I mean As a Warhammer fantasy/ warhammer 40k Nurgle fan this song is great for battle! :P but they keep bringing out history many people didnt know about earlier. and they have both good music and great history!.

[@barnaverantid]

Would love to see a video of you reacting to the sabaton history channel 😄 (history nerds unite!)

[@ArgaAnders]

Man Tank! Your beard is really coming along!!

[@jodocus97]

I wanted to write my musicology bachelor thesis about the reception of war in the songs of Sabaton. But for my Professor it was not enough focus on music... :(

[@cordiscancri4790]

i loved his "it is growing on me" right after someone in chat pointed out that the song is about the guy who inventend the fertiliser and toxic gas.

[@RandomFurry07]

Not exactly the fertiliser itself But the creation process of it

[@Rain20031980]

Cool buddy, I just pressed the broadcast notification button. I am very curious about your reaction. The song is very great but also, in its own way, sad. If you listen, you will understand what I mean. Regards

[@nilsdriver]

I told you long ago,that the Sabaton band and crew are the nicest people 🙂

[@fredjae]

In a liveshow this would be in the first half and soldier of heaven as a closer, both with catchy hook but on the complete opposite of the spectrum of the party😅

[@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883]

Fun Fact: Dr Fritz Haber also developed Zyklon A which was further developed into Zyklon B. Fritz Haber was Jewish.

[@graph4794]

This is a very good breakdown and reaction! I have a suggestion to react to. It is inmate 4895 it is about a Polish soldier who infiltrated auschwitz and has a very tragic story.

[@archabe]

Aaah, no behind the scenes vlog from hanging out with them?

[@metalman2]

Jesus Christ pain remains 3 just dropped. My god how powerful and emotional

[@shamWOOHOO22]

Nurgle's probably slobbering at the thought of having Mr. Haber in his clutches

[@RedDeathXVI]

HELL YES