The Fisker Ocean was the worst car I've ever reviewed. Can the 2.0 software redeem it? Shot on iPhone 15 Pro
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@AutoFocus2 ай бұрын
"The old cars had a bug where they couldn't receive software updates over the air. So unfortunately they're rolling out the .0 update in stages by sending technicians around to cars to update them. But that's fixed with 2.0" Source: The Fisker employee in the parking lot while dropping off the car
@TaxationIsTheft694202 ай бұрын
Jeez. They just keep digging their own graves.
@puchmercedesg55682 ай бұрын
Maybe it was an issue on one of the first OS. Not on the later ones. All those little mistakes make your Fisker Videos really the worst quality car Reviews. See instead a real driver an car expert (also on German Autobahn) kzbin.info/www/bejne/foGskJ-kpqmcp6c
@mattymerr7012 ай бұрын
@@puchmercedesg5568 "maybe it's not a widespread issue" is not a refutation of the original video.
@madmat282 ай бұрын
@@puchmercedesg5568 lol... you might wanna translate "WERBEVIDEO" as well.
@jackaguy2 ай бұрын
That's bad comms on Fisker's part for sure. Either the employee was mistaken, or perhaps they were talking about the very earliest Oceans (the One model, a small minority of the inventory Fisker has today). Might be worth updating this pin to clarify that this is not actually true for most Oceans, at least according to the testimony of the comments in this thread and on Reddit (where many folks are getting OTA 2.0)
@CormacHolland2 ай бұрын
Hold on officer, let me reach under my seat to retrieve my paperwork because this vehicle doesn’t have a glovebox.
@XlxKeViinxlX2 ай бұрын
pulls out gun from holster: woah woah woah easy there partner...
@danphan4622 ай бұрын
if you are a minority.. do you get that chance to .. "woah woah woah".@@XlxKeViinxlX
@enoughofthis2 ай бұрын
Boom. You re dead! " officer safery"
@jsch61782 ай бұрын
easier to reach under the seat you are sitting in that across the entire car to open a compartment. just because it has been done one way in the past does not make it right..
@hankkingsley91832 ай бұрын
Jsch... no, it's actually another safety issue with the car. Gloveboxes are designed to be accessable while the driver keeps eyes on the road, and so a peace officer can see the drivers hands when accessing it. Fumbling around under your seat instead is NOT an improvement
@herranton2 ай бұрын
_"Fisker had to send a technician out to each and every one of these cars to manually..."_ Wow. That must've taken the guy all week!
@MLHunt2 ай бұрын
Ouch
@andreasl45072 ай бұрын
And he Will keep spring that for awhile.
@mrsittingmongoose2 ай бұрын
Surprisingly, there are quite a few by me. Even going back 6 months.
@a_w_bukhari75792 ай бұрын
He may even have to work half days somedays
@monsterpatbro10412 ай бұрын
That was an untrue statement
@ReppnekАй бұрын
"Sell a broken product and fix it later ... maybe" Cars have reached videogame levels
@ramr7051Ай бұрын
maybe it can be added later as DLC?
@119AgentАй бұрын
Feature lootboxes are coming to the auto industry soon.
@explorerdadsocal8047Ай бұрын
Like voting for the biden administration…. Theyre currently doing damage control
@spaceman315022 күн бұрын
@@119Agent If EA made a car they would call those "surprise mechanics"
@MohcineJabairi20 күн бұрын
Monthly sub tho
@Gzus2 ай бұрын
It's a shame that this company died due to bad software. Hopefully other companies will take notice of how important the UI/UX is for _all_ modern technologies, and not just adopt the "We'll fix it later" mentality; the first impression is the *ONLY* impression.
@alonsohernandez27832 ай бұрын
Fisker is not dying because of their software. It’s dying because Fisker never set up a proper delivery network in the US and support system for their vehicles. Crappy software can easily be improved but not delivery and customer/technician support.
@ItsWesSmithYo2 ай бұрын
UI/UX is important but proper dev pipeline and product management can always provide a path forward. You 100% can start with a basic UI/UX (very common) that isn’t perfect and evolve over time without losing users, and in fact having them love the product (and company) more over time. There are likely many other reasons it died, like cash flow, vision, management, engineering, etc…
@nathanahubbard19752 ай бұрын
Laughable little mirrors and non-existent glove boxes are not software though.
@blipblop922 ай бұрын
They could have made a "dumb" cars with physical controls instead of going the expensive software route.
@falxonPSN2 ай бұрын
The company is 0:01 dying again just like Henrik Fiskar's first company because he does not know how to set up and properly manage a company. None of the critical operational stuff was set up properly from the beginning, as evidenced by the fact that they couldn't even collect car payments properly which is unheard of in the car business.
@cerdafiedDeveloper2 ай бұрын
Fisker took a risk and sent MK to review the car again. I applaud them for that
@HaitienToutKote2 ай бұрын
I agreed
@TopGunZero2 ай бұрын
Kind of foolish to send a review car without ensuring that every criticism had been addressed...
@GeorgeSkibo2 ай бұрын
@@TopGunZero While i agree in premise, i dont think Fisker was in a position to wait any longer. This may have been their "Hail Mary" and like most Hail Mary's, pass was incomplete.
@braveintofuture2 ай бұрын
There is zero risk. There is only bankruptcy or bankruptcy plus takeover by a competitor at this point.
@TopGunZero2 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeSkibo If that was the case, I would have issued him release/design notes with roadmap for what they can fix and when it'll be fixed by.
@casisrealtyrealtyonegroup50762 ай бұрын
Great review! Decided to gamble a little and bought 1500 shares of Fisker. Am now a proud owner of $30 worth of Fisker stocks!
@femaledeer2 ай бұрын
Should have made a donation instead.
@tompetty66812 ай бұрын
@@femaledeer He made a donation to the Fisker shorts.
@shrimpinpat2 ай бұрын
I have more than that and my losses are like 10000x what you even spent 😢
@benjaminbekkerman53662 ай бұрын
Don't forget the trading fees.
@JustinBlazzzee2 ай бұрын
I started shorting Fisker in 2021 when it was around $23. It almost instantly shot up to like $28 on some rumor that Apple was considering them to partner with for the Apple car. I closed my short for a good 20% loss. Now here we are and Fisker is basically worthless. Lol
@lizzfrmhonАй бұрын
THANK YOU. As customers we shouldn’t accept the “we will fix it later” argument. You took my money now. Give me a complete working product NOW.
@dmitryburlakov69202 ай бұрын
Is it called California mode because it allows people to steal from your car without breaking the windows?
@chrispeoples832 ай бұрын
Lol
@brarx016616 күн бұрын
Or it contains materials which may cause cancer in the state of California
@kevinfoendoe69872 ай бұрын
The day this video came out, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened a third investigation against Fisker’s Ocean SUV for doors that won’t open.
@ModPhreak2 ай бұрын
Owning a Tesla model S this has happened to mine and basically every other model S owner. Never recalled or fixed for free.
@2wheel_freedom2 ай бұрын
In the next software update there will be a Door Delete option , doors pop off and you will get thumbs up from jeep wrangler owners as you drive down the road....🤣🤣😂
@mariusmartinsen20642 ай бұрын
Tesla model Y has 17 Recalls, 6 investigations by NHTSA and 600+ complaints. And Tesla is hard on software engineering 😂
@tau43332 ай бұрын
Tesla Stock is too big to fail. Everyone who has some fund has Tesla Apple Google shares, even in some Emerging Markets Africa fund. So Tesla price is save, if there is no robotaxi this year, cars have panel gaps, or their uhm let's say „next boss“ is a near fascist, conspiracy weirdo…
@samjohnston29882 ай бұрын
I know, and Tesla had like hundreds of investigations into their cars For various reasons. This is just a doorhandle issue that affected 14 people
@HoopSomuah2 ай бұрын
I'm a heartbroken Fisker Ocean Extreme owner and I agree with almost everything in this review. I also mostly agree with the previous one and I really don't want to. Also if Marques had spent more time with the car he would have found so many more UX issues. 1. My Ocean Extreme did receive its 2.0 Update over the air. It required me to manually accept it and consciously unplug and lock the vehicle while it updated. Note: A Fisker engineer did come to look at it after the update for other issues I'd reported. IIRC there was also conversation about updating the key fob... 2. You can manually push the button on the left side of the steering wheel to turn the parking brake off even if your seatbelt is not on ⚠ - If you are stopped at a light and you shift too much in your seat, the car shifts into P and unlocks the doors. ⚠ - If you open the driver side door it shifts into park and unlock the other doors. 3. Bluetooth/Audio still has reliability bugs. 4. I still lose 4G connection for multiple hours in a downtown area. When I do, both clocks on the vehicle's screen get out of sync and are both wrong (minutes are always accurate though.🤔) ⚠ - What happens to the 4G connection if Fisker goes out of business? 5. It now supports multiple profiles but the profiles in the car don't seem to store much besides A/C settings 😞 6. Spending engineering resources on a screen that only rotates when I'm in park and on fancy things like California mode was not the best move considering the state of the core experiences in the car's software. 7. I did get locked in the car multiple times as did my wife. Hasn't happened since 2.0 update I've said it before, the single most concerning thing for me was the promise of a "2.0" update to fix all the problems. Who even cares about version numbers today? How many folks know what version number of Chrome they are running? Nobody even notices when Chrome updates. IMHO celebrating numeric releases of software today is an anti-pattern. Continuous delivery, feature-flighting, A/B experimentation, these are not things you can easily build in after the fact. Shipping without all of them was a mistake and has impacted their engineering agility. I'm a software guy at heart so I'm biased but I think one of the best moves Fisker could make would be to create a non-profit foundation to own and drive forward their vehicle OS stack by making it open source and leveraging the community of enthusiasts. Take 24 vehicles and give 2 a month to community voted top contributors over the next year. This would also bolster confidence for new buyers in the event of dissolution. If the Ocean could become an autonomous vehicle dev kit for companies like Wayve and it's competitors perhaps they could even move more inventory.
@RFixZone2 ай бұрын
Nah a real owner was not going to agreed to his review. This dude is a real owner and he give a real explanation of almost everything. kzbin.info/www/bejne/joeri4merbR2etksi=Y81zVFWuBlZ74Izp
@255662 ай бұрын
I can't believe you're a software guy and you tested and bought that car
@jean-lucsedits43192 ай бұрын
I disagree with the open source comment, this would allow people to mess with the safety of the car in non-test situations. We are all aware that bugs can and will happen and as much as the community could do good, the risk Fisker takes letting anyone test out the bugs anywhere would be way too high. Also imagine if this allows bad actors to gain knowledge on how to steal these cars
@Saeglopur892 ай бұрын
I see Fisker Karma around Oslo so they are still OK and reliable. This gives hope that this model also will be supported for over decade at least
@erik33712 ай бұрын
@@jean-lucsedits4319your car is already running open source software.
@relaxedpenny6042 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for the employees of this company like the engineers who actually made a some good aspects of the car but cant see their work come to fruition
@reddcube2 ай бұрын
I like the 10 second silence at the start. "Are we doing this? ... Yep , I guess we're doing this."
@gt_kenny2 ай бұрын
"We should have shotguns for this job" kzbin.info/www/bejne/opmQlYmPfNx9eJI
@hungryalien2 ай бұрын
hahaha was checking my volume control to see if i was in mute
@NoneMoment2 ай бұрын
@@hungryalien me too
@DarwinismGamer2 ай бұрын
I legit thought my sound was messed up on my PC lol... Like no noise... period.
@peterhuebner31152 ай бұрын
Ah software problems
@MohamedElkashef12 ай бұрын
The company I work for makes hinges. When the owner started it, they messed up the design of a hinge, which made the cabinet door not close to the end. A disaster given that the company was selling pretty much internationally. The owner decided to own the mistake and sent out technicians to fix and replace all the hinges, almost bankrupting the company in the process. But it passed. And because of that experience, he vowed to focus on quality and design, aiming to be the best. Years later, the company is now the leading cabinet hardware and hinge manufacturer worldwide, known for its quality! Good for Fisker for owning it and trying. Hoping it works out for them.
@cbotten1062 ай бұрын
Your point is the Fisker business model is unhinged? Still repairable? I'm kidding but the EV market competition is going to have many failed businesses. I hope it works out for Fisker too. But, they got a product to market, which in itself is significant, imo. Lots of 'em didn't.
@dnmr2 ай бұрын
is your boss Jay Pritchett
@silotx2 ай бұрын
The same happened with my condom company but we couldn't undo the mistake of the problematic condoms that easily.
@imissyoubasile2 ай бұрын
Ok.
@thomaskoninger58412 ай бұрын
How calls the Company Brand?
@bdlii2 ай бұрын
'California Mode' has worked since day 1 on my 2006 Saab 9-3. This is not even a new feature. Since I'm still driving my 2006 Saab and have over 214k miles it feels like I now have this new California Mode feature. Yay!
@ShirahamaNeo-Tokyo2 ай бұрын
Works on my 2012 Honda Accord too. Amazing new modern feature
@Strongest_under_heaven2 ай бұрын
Worked just fine on my 2003 golf mk iv. Pretty sure it worked the same on my dad’s 1998 golf mk iv Such impressive technology in 2024!
@digital.olimonАй бұрын
Worked on my 1996 Golf GTi
@herobrine1847Ай бұрын
Worked on my 1812 Overture in Ž Müjor by Pyredyrick Ilyastian Mozarchvsky
@HotTakeAndyАй бұрын
It’s been on VW for almost two decades too, but most key fobs have to be programmed to do so.
@TheGreatestJuJu2 ай бұрын
It’s a shame because I actually love the way it looks and a lot of the features that are unique and make it stand out.
@Dankturboz2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately fisker seems to be another cautionary tale. They really did SO much right here. Solid looks, materials, and build quality. Unfortunately they really tried to over-deliver on the tech. If they had stopped at good looks and build quality, used android auto and CarPlay, and kept it affordable, they would have had a genuinely compelling product. But instead they messed with solar panels, custom software, and new safety features. It’s honestly such a shame and is a direct result of salespeople getting their way instead of engineers.
@frankohashiguchi2 ай бұрын
Yep. And as he was talking about how little the solar panels actually contributed... sheesh. All that tech and hardware for something that would make it very expensive to replace/repair if hail or a tree branch cracked the roof.
@kluchakiller2 ай бұрын
@@frankohashiguchi if you getting 1mile per day it's 365 miles per year not bad to get full tank of electricity for "free"
@randomuserame2 ай бұрын
Salespeople have NOTHING to do with the features that go into the making of a car. This was executive-led "feature bloat" with nobody to tell him stop adding daydreaming the car out of viability.
@triparadox.c2 ай бұрын
@kluchakiller Until you realize a full tank of battery costs like $5 to $10. You're trying to get free $10 while at the same time risking repair bill in the thousands when rock flies from semi truck and cracks your solar panel..
@ivankremenetskiy67532 ай бұрын
From my experience, it’s other way around. Engineers are rarely concerned with profits and product management. They would rather deliver the most advanced tech regardless of actual market viability.
@jackwen042 ай бұрын
Fisker might be going out of business? I guess that's fisker's karma
@natemcneil2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣 10/10 comment
@chrisvenning75712 ай бұрын
Hats of to you sir. Well played. 🤝
@akaris12 ай бұрын
@2cleeng2 ай бұрын
💀😂great one
@daviidfm9232 ай бұрын
Rip 😅
@norbertsangano15292 ай бұрын
00:12 Fisker Ocean 2.0 improves software 01:57 Original Fisker Ocean had issues with software updates 03:47 Fisker Ocean 2.0 features improved design and functionality 05:32 Fisker Ocean 2.0 has boot-up delay and seatbelt dependency for driving 07:20 Solar roof energy generation and driving experience improvements 09:14 Issues with regen and drive modes need improvement. 11:00 Fisker Ocean 2.0 software issues need improvement 12:48 Real improvements seen in the Fisker Ocean 2.0 Thanks Markes. Just keep on doing what you do best than others: reviewing with objectivity not being subjective. Your honest are realistic approach on any product is our treasure.
@jjScorpio2 ай бұрын
Thanks Marques for doing another review of the Ocean w/ OceanOS 2.0. It’s amazing that you re-reviewed a vehicle again and it’s not even long term. Thanks for doing that. BTW, always love your videos. I own an Ocean One and managed to get 2.0 OTA without any technician visit and I’d have to say I must be one of the lucky ones as mine has dramatically improved. Other than the random every three days getting the charger port door is open, I’m loving the ride. Very disappointed on the outcome of the company but I’d say there’s so much potential given that other car companies took years to get to a better place. With that said, I’d say you were very fair in your second assessment. Props.
@quijr8162 ай бұрын
With the company about to go bankrupt, do you still intend to keep the car and if so, how would you go about servicing/maintaining/updating the car? A genuine question
@godbasi2 ай бұрын
Fisker has got big balls for sending another review unit. Kudos to them. Continuous improvement is the soul of any organisation.
@catbert72 ай бұрын
What have they got to lose?
@alexiz6892 ай бұрын
Shame that this company ran out of cash and released the product prematurely. It could have been a great vehicle, but it needed another 6-12 months of testing and refinement before product release.
@femaledeer2 ай бұрын
Yeah, so now they have 2 bad reviews.
@kxkxkxkx2 ай бұрын
Bot
@Clickbait5402 ай бұрын
Organism*
@PhillyDashcam2 ай бұрын
Maybe because I'm used to having older cars... the thought of buying a car and it not being fully correct and ready and waiting for an update to solve said shortcomings is an absurd thought. Even the worst automakers still at least finished their cars to a point where they were usable by the time the customer bought it? Weird times.
@antoinkiely79722 ай бұрын
Its true.. one wonders is there too much use of software in electric cars anyway.. they should should have great "essential" software, and not much else ... nothing wrong with manual controls we are all used to using ..
@dardanm35442 ай бұрын
There’s a difference between doing what Fisker did (releasing a car that’s in “beta”) and charging people for it versus releasing a fully functioning car and the pushing OTA improvements that can add another decade to the car in terms of features. But I agree, I’m a developer and sometimes bugs can slip through so it’s a little crazy (and in this case bugs can be deadly versus a site shutting down).
@catbert72 ай бұрын
I dunno what magical time you're referring to but I'm pretty sure a jaunt down Recall lane disproves its existence ;p Cars have always had issues on release, Fisker just takes it to the extreme.
@catbert72 ай бұрын
@@antoinkiely7972 Advanced software is not inherent to EVs; EVs are just newer and copying Tesla, which included a lot of modern tech into their cars (something the car industry has been decades behind on). And, no, they definitely don't have too much software. Other cars do not have enough. I have had almost no issues with my Tesla and the few I've had were very minor; far less than the avg car. What I do have is 100x more features, many of which I absolutely love; others I only like ;p And there was definitely a problem with the manual controls we were all using - there were way too many of them and they required looking away from the road. That's why Tesla moved the core controls to 2 contextual scroll-wheel buttons on the wheel, and to voice controls. Much safer, much cleaner.
@PhillyDashcam2 ай бұрын
@dardanm3544 That's probably my other gripe more generally. The average person doesn't want or need any of the "features" they keep touting with most modern cars in general, yet most carmakers are pushing these features anyway (both EV and ICE). Most of the features now don't even have anything to do with driving. Why does a modern car have video games or internet browsing built in now? That's why people are still buying Toyota 4Runners which has been in production since 2010 mostly unchanged, even at insane markups, because it's simple, reliable, and doesn't require people to search google on how to use X, Y and Z. Even the Mitsubishi Mirage, plenty of people buy those because they are simple transportation. That's what's disappeared over the past decade is simple, distraction-free, not-tied-to-some-server-farm-owned-by-XYZ-carmaker transportation. And evidently, a lot of people have been driving their cars for more than a decade and survived without software updates, since the average age of cars on the road is 12.5 years, and I'm sure plenty a lot older than that.
@joyvictorious777Ай бұрын
Once, back in the 80’s, my dad (a black man) opted to go to jail during a traffic stop rather than reach under his seat where he’d temporarily stashed his wallet/ID…of all the decisions he’d made that night, it was prolly the best one. I pray nobody decides to use the under-seat storage for standard glove-compartment fare…hopefully that half-visor is stronger than it looks and can pick up some of the slack for handling routine traffic stops 🤷🏻♀️
@ThunderTurtle72 ай бұрын
This makes me so happy I still have my 2012 Scion. Such a simple car, almost no bells and whistles, and it just works.
@patrick72282 ай бұрын
"Is it still the worst car I've ever reviewed? Yes." Finish him! Fatality!!
@LuisSierra422 ай бұрын
MK wins
@edmn2 ай бұрын
Stop it. He’s already dead!
@andreasl45072 ай бұрын
Rip bro
@apb12362 ай бұрын
Throw in the damn towel!!!!!
@patrick72282 ай бұрын
@@LuisSierra42 🤣😂🤣 Yes!
@NubRusty2 ай бұрын
It's unfortunate that they couldn't get over the financial hurdle of a startup, b/c the car actually looks really friggin good.
@Mikey-rt3rm2 ай бұрын
the owner of fisker and his wife are both billionaires wym
@smokey25402 ай бұрын
Are you dumb?
@OnceHopefuL2 ай бұрын
This is not their first failed car.
@TouchofDepthАй бұрын
What? Start up? The company was bought by some super rich.... the previous Fisker model was beautiful, the ocean is a chinese junk car.
@moosesnWoopАй бұрын
@@OnceHopefuLmoron, Fisker has brought these cars to the market more than once. The companies failed for a range of reasons including lawsuits from Telsa that bankrupted them previously
@youtubecommenter252716 күн бұрын
Alternating red and blue flashing lights in your face is a bonafide seizure hazard. What the fuck?
@brandonwatsonmedia2 ай бұрын
Marques with the ultimate "tell me without telling me" opening. 🤣
@user-uh7qd2nn7o2 ай бұрын
I've had my Ocean One since December. It came with software ver 1.10, which got updated to 1.11 a few weeks later and then 2.0 was pushed last week. Both updates were OTA and didn't require any tech to visit/install. Is the software complete? No. Is it better than the older version? Absolutely. The car drives and handles really well and it shows in the build quality. As a One owner, I am realistic about the murky future of this company and have mentally prepared myself for this car possibly turning into an expensive brick at some point in the future. All I can hope is that they are around long enough to push the next few set of updates to make this a more "complete" car. My biggest concern is with lack of support if the company goes under and there are no service or repair options in case of a fender-bender or a cracked windshield. So while I love my Ocean and think it could become a great car someday if the company survives long enough, I can't recommend anyone to buy this car until the company's future is clearer.
@edmundorivera58252 ай бұрын
hahaha, auto world riiight. I laughed pretty hard. Thank you for that. @@aimlessdrive8723
@naplesflexplorer2 ай бұрын
If anything keep it as a collectors edition if the company goes belly up. You will eventually get more than what you paid for it. Or atleast your kids or grandkids will, lol
@cbarber53662 ай бұрын
No they won't, see Fisker Karma @@naplesflexplorer
@Luciferisking5122 ай бұрын
Surprise surprise MKBHD gives more false info on the subject he’s supposed to be a trusted reviewer on…..
@melvinholland96562 ай бұрын
An honest and rational summation of the situation. Good luck to you!
@Nate_Wentwhere2 ай бұрын
Honey stop what you are doing. Mkbhd dropped 2.0 fisker video
@dae19732 ай бұрын
🤣
@jakefox36772 ай бұрын
Ahhhhhhhh
@LuisSierra422 ай бұрын
I woke up from a comma to watch this
@PhilDogg2 ай бұрын
Good one ill give you that😂
@pamelaramdat83212 ай бұрын
💯
@TheRasta4riАй бұрын
December 2011, Fisker Automotive recalled the first 239 Karmas delivered to the U.S. due to a risk of battery fire caused by coolant leak. Of the 239 cars, less than fifty had been delivered to customers, the rest were in dealerships. In the report filed by Fisker Automotive with the NHTSA, the carmaker said some hose clamps were not properly positioned, which could allow a coolant leak and an electrical short could possibly occur if coolant enters the battery compartment, causing a thermal event within the battery, including a possible fire. In May 2012 a Fisker Karma was involved in a home fire that also burnt two other cars in Fort Bend County, Texas. The chief fire investigator said the Karma was the origin of the fire that spread to the house, but the exact cause is still unknown
@davep56982 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see you are alive and not in any casts after hearing the call from the Senior Manager regarding you last review.
@muhsin_sultan2 ай бұрын
The auto e-brake not disengaging when the seatbelt isn't connected is a feature. You can still manually disengage the e-brake, but it doesn't do it automatically if you're not wearing your seltbelt. It's a thing in my Toyota as well
@PriitKaru2 ай бұрын
Was a thing in my Alfa Romeo Giulia as well.
@vishavjitsingh45972 ай бұрын
Functional Safety!
@vinyfiny2 ай бұрын
Yeah it seems like a pretty reasonable safety feature honestly. So if you're just sitting in the car getting situated or grabbing stuff before you get out and you accidentally hit the brake pedal the car doesn't start rolling down a hill or something.
@jemand89622 ай бұрын
The same in my Ford S-Max.
@michaelberg72012 ай бұрын
Yes and some people don't want to put on seatbelts. Small details like this may nudge them to do it a few more times than they would have otherwise. My old diesel will start screaming at me if I drive more than 20 meters without the belt engaged. This is a useful feature that more cars should have.
@frightcrafter2 ай бұрын
In fairness to Fisker, the parking brake feature is more common than you'd think. From personal experience, Toyotas and Hyundais with automatic parking brakes will not disengage them automatically without your seat belt being on, as is the case with other cars I would imagine. On those models, you can override it by manually pushing the parking brake button. I do not know if Fisker included such a button.
@rudyruiz25222 ай бұрын
there's a P button where you can disengaged
@Luciferisking5122 ай бұрын
Yup. MKBHD is just insanely CLUELESS about cars and is reviewing them like he knows what he’s talking about. And idiots trust him.
@gsteadwm2 ай бұрын
Indeed, pressing the Ocean's 'P' button releases the parking brake. You can move the car w/o a seat belt.
@MG-Alexandrovich2 ай бұрын
In 3.0 they will patch it so P gear workaround will be fixed, and you will have to put that damn seatbelt xD
@JesseSightler2 ай бұрын
The Nissan Rogue works the same way, or at least the 2018 did. AFAIK, it is a safety feature to avoid rollaways. Tesla doesn't do this, but they compensate by being super picky about the seat sensor if the belt isn't engaged.
@LootKiwi2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I want a car to block driving if the seatbelt is not being used not because I don't want to use it but what if some sensor breaks and the car stops detecting the belt being plugged thus preventing the user from moving?
@FrankOConnor2 ай бұрын
I can relate to the long bootup -- I put a wireless carplay adapter in my B9 A4 -- and it sometimes takes about a minute to connect. But there's also an occasional Audi MMI bug where the car gets confused after ignition and that sometimes means the rear view camera doesn't come on when you put it in reverse. And a pre-existing carplay bug where it just won't play a track/station/song -- across all apps -- I think it's related to Apple's "now playing" feature, but I've put up with it for years. However, sometimes the "fix" is just to change channel or track -- but sometimes you have to do an MMI full reset -- so it takes a minute too.
@JavedAshiq2 ай бұрын
i really want this car to be good, I genuinely think the design is sick
@CHAITHANYAkitta2 ай бұрын
other than the risk of not getting critical software updates and charging stuff I think the car looks quite good, interior good, that landscape turning was great, if it works well with basics its great buy esp give then price decrease. I think M is simply too biased on them since they werent nice to him. You could easily do a quite nice review also these reviews just give only a a decent first impressions only
@MuniTechnology2 ай бұрын
Me, too and I'm anti-EV.
@cbotten1062 ай бұрын
Fisker has always been good a styling them. Has Fisker made a bad looking car?
@SnorreStuff2 ай бұрын
The car actually is awesome. I have one with more than 9000 miles on it now. Brownlee is doing another hit piece on Fisker with this video. Check this out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJa0pWaci89mY6Msi=EBot0n-U2oEXx8xX
@brentomagic2 ай бұрын
I don't think he is bias... Is it safe to drive a car with a bunch of software issues? What happens when it glitches while driving 70 or 80m/h? @@CHAITHANYAkitta
@louisreichling59712 ай бұрын
I work in an automotive company, and work with people that are testing the car's software. The issues you are experiencing are issues that are present on the earliest softwares of the system, and in my company we don't release the car or deploy the software until the issues are corrected or are harmless enough for the custom not to be bothered. What Fisker has done would be absolutely unacceptable for my company's standard, and should be unacceptable in general for the automotive industry
@privettoli2 ай бұрын
Stellantis or Renault?
@user-yw7xo3rd4n2 ай бұрын
@@privettolilucid 😉
@louisreichling59712 ай бұрын
@@privettoli Renault
@TBasianeyes2 ай бұрын
I bet the engineers didn't want to release the car like this but management/board/shareholders pushed it through.
@paulacruz623912 күн бұрын
So... I own a Renault. And let me tell you about some of his own details.. This is a car from a model that already had 3 years of existence, so plenty of time to fix things. Software wise... The car was advertised with a lot of safty features but that only work in ridiculous set of conditions with no need to doing it so. The blind spot warning only works if I'm driving +70km/h, and when it flashes the car already passed the blind spot and I can see it perfectly. Why on earth this does not work in slower speeds? When I really need this is when I'm driving in the city and similar when the traffic is more intense and I have to be aware of several things at the same time. Why the automatic brakes only work if: A) Adaptive cruise control is set up and on -it only lets me activate it if I'm driving at more than 50km/h B) the car needs to be driving at more than 40km/h or it will STOP the assistance and as a result STOP BRAKING. When it its the 40 mark it will stop doing any brakin! This means that I will always hit the car in front if I don't apply the brakes in the meantime. This is ridiculous. In adaptive cruise control, although it can visualy warn you that has a car in front of you by quite far away it does not slow down the select speed gradually to make the gap, it rather choseses to go until quite close(the limit set) and them applies the brakes at the last second leading to puxes on the seat belt and a subject to being rear-ended by a more distracted driver behind due to the sudden drastic change in speed. I had it start applying the brakes out of nowhere just because it, somehow it believes it has a car in front when it is not there or its has not nearly close enough to do so, and I remind you that he does not brake smoothly... Leaving people behind me almost crashing to me or just thinking I'm an idiot. The car also has automatic park assist, and its just straight up bad sometimes. Once, in a perfect set conditions (new parking lot with all the markings intact and plany of space), it parked the car all crooked, only noticed (i was on a call) when the car next to me needed to get out and couldn't because the way mine was parked completely crooked. The parking sensors have delay and it can straight up miss objets if they are thin enough (like a pole) or in a angle. What led me to charsh the front on to a small wall that was not visible from the interior and only started beeping when the damage was already done. Did the same with a thin wooden pole. The interior The car has a wook, supposedly to put your shopping bags, that straight up is useless as it can't be used when the trunk is closed because its right there were the door closes. Its a 7 seater and I have to crall on to the trunk area to be able to manually pick up the corner of the seat to put the lat row up, or do the same procedure from the passangers seats, there is no strap what so ever to help you with this, such a basic thing, they can be fold using a simple button but is a pain to put them up just because it lacks a simple thing like a strap to pull. No car is perfect, I had 5 cars already, all have had it's issues and annoying things that were badly engineered or made. For a 1rst car generation of a start up this is, somewhat expected to happen, and are plenty of exemples of this stuff happening in cars from manufacturers that should now better already.
@joeslifka2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the updated video! What kind of microphone do you use for these videos?
@HalfManHalfTechАй бұрын
It’s a Hollyland mic 🎤
@Jewdly2 ай бұрын
The Fisker Ocean 1.0 was the first video of yours I viewed. I'm happy to see a 2.0 video.
@samuelgray73992 ай бұрын
For those who are willing to roll the dice, Fisker cut the price on all models of the Ocean as of March 29 Model - Old MSRP - New MSRP - Difference Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000 Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000 Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
@snehilsharma58272 ай бұрын
Honestly if that is a strategy to sell the cars at a loss so that they can keep afloat, I don't have a lot of faith in the company.
@JacksonJones-cw1pf2 ай бұрын
There's an FOO with 1800 miles at a dealer close by for under 40K, never thought I would see that considering the FOO was not discounted by Fisker
@nguyep42 ай бұрын
Wait for the bottom and buy for its battery as DYI projects for off the grid.
@GeorgeSkibo2 ай бұрын
@@snehilsharma5827 Isnt that every startup's strategy? Rivian and Lucid still lose tens of thousands for every car. you eventually profit, but never off the first 10k vehicles
@sprinkle612 ай бұрын
There is no way they will survive at a $25 K price point for an electric car, and this will be hell to maintain when there are no parts for it. Just wait for the used model to fall to $10 K or less, if you want to gamble
@markstewart75592 ай бұрын
I test drove an Ocean in the UK a couple of weeks ago, I really like the car and this was after your original review. I didn’t experience the issues highlighted, but whilst the sales guy was demonstrating the swivel screen, it crashed and got stuck in the super useful “diagonal blank screen” mode. They had to switch the car off then on again to reset, which it did. The main thing I didn’t like was the jittery ride which doesn’t expire confidence as the car doesn’t feel at all planted.
@femaledeer2 ай бұрын
How many time will the screens spin until it needs a $1,500 repair?
@fartdonkey82902 ай бұрын
I disagree with you, the jittery ride absolutely does expire confidence
@mattmurphy70302 ай бұрын
Expire, lol
@TimTebonerАй бұрын
"Can't believe they didn't do Earth, Wind, and Fire" THANK YOU for saying it lmao
@jackson._.goulding2 ай бұрын
GM also makes you buckle up before it lets you enter drive but I believe it is a feature that can be disabled.
@jonishmathew89802 ай бұрын
I got the 2.0 software update over the air without any issues. I got it yesterday and feels so much better.
@fazman62182 ай бұрын
ouch, how much did you pay for the car tho?
@Y2Kvids2 ай бұрын
The technicians might have come during the night
@femaledeer2 ай бұрын
Put as many miles as you can on it, because you won't get much on a trade in, but you saved money of gas.
@Alex731542 ай бұрын
Aren't you worried the company won't exist in a couple years? Who's gonna fix your car if it breaks?
@fazman62182 ай бұрын
@@femaledeer Never imagined that line would have fit well with a car maker other than Tesla
@samconroyy2 ай бұрын
Crazy times we live in, I thought I escaped day 1 updates when I stopped gaming. But now we have the automotive industry using the "it'll be in an update" excuse.
@SvikDK2 ай бұрын
Yep, all thanks to Tesla ;)
@ye738122 ай бұрын
@@SvikDK And EA
@SvikDK2 ай бұрын
Last I checked, they don´t make cars ;) But I get yourt point @@ye73812
@rossr66162 ай бұрын
"sir, your Pacemaker will receive an update ....in two weeks" 😂
@Twin.motors2 ай бұрын
@@SvikDKat least Tesla does updates flawlessly. I've gotten more features and updates for my Tesla in the last 12 months than I did for my phone
@btj892 ай бұрын
The Ioniq 5 does the same thing with the seatbelt and not being able to drive the car, though it's seemingly at random. Also, my 2011 Toyota Prius disengaged the regenerative braking whenever you went over a bump when braking.
@mavrostitan19682 күн бұрын
This feels like such a cool car, shame that the people in charge are letting it fail
@crimsonstyles2 ай бұрын
I received my 2.0 OS via an OTA (over the air) update. I even asked a service tech before if they were planning to send someone over but they mentioned there was no need since it was being rolled out OTA. There’s a new setting to toggle through for the boot up 24hr, 10 minutes, etc. to get around the seatbelt issue, you’ll have to press on the Parking button on the left near the light switches.
@estehanioe8772 ай бұрын
Just curious, what were you thinking? Like literally? If you've gotten the car for free, sure. Did you really, use your brain when buying? Or just jump on the hype train?
@beekarinsaan2 ай бұрын
@@estehanioe877😂🤣
@crimsonstyles2 ай бұрын
I preordered the car back in 2022 & it had all of the looks & features I wanted in my first electric car. I wanted to go with the Rivian but decided on the Fisker based off of their promises (magna build, 360 range, etc.). Surprisingly, my car hasn’t had major issues but the major issue now is the support from Fisker (service, parts, etc.) this is my second car & 4th available vehicle in my house. Wanted to make sure to call out that I’m not invalidating anyone else’s issues because for those owners, their experience sounded horrible (battery, loss of power, hoods flying mid drive, etc.)
@user-on8yb5pv7e2 ай бұрын
@@estehanioe877 probably he didnt buy a tesla because he is not a uber driver and doesn't like garbage
@estehanioe8772 ай бұрын
@@crimsonstyles Got it, just a brand without any pedigree. Even if I were buying a bicycle from them I would still be careful, not to mention a car. It's good to know you're problem free! Maybe MB got literally a lemon lol.
@danielrodgers44222 ай бұрын
Ive had my Fisker Ocean One since Oct 2023. White on white like the one in this video. I love mine! I've never had issues with California mode or windows not working. The only issues ive had are the key fob not working on the 1st try and my vent clicks which is getting replaced soon. Yeah, software is a bit laggy sometimes, but i prefer driving this over my Lexus RX 450h FSport or either of my GT/Roush Mustangs. Btw, you can take the parking brake off by pushing the ((P)) button on the dash without your seatbelt on. It just beeps like any other car without your seatbelt.
@JC-gw4jl2 ай бұрын
I think the biggest issue for people is if the company is going under; Might be a great car but if there is no one to service the car, thats a huge deal breaker.
@Topper_Harley682 ай бұрын
Well, looks like you will own a Fisker for the rest of it's working days.
@CTR_Dan2 ай бұрын
How much did yours depreciate?
@ascherlafayette85722 ай бұрын
Glad you like it, you're one of the only ones lol
@DrewCarrier2 ай бұрын
My wife and I have a Lexus rx450h and an NX. The one thing stopping either of us from alot of EV options we've looked at is the severe (in our/my opinion) drop in interior quality due to cost-cutting measures in EV's most often landing in that department. Just can't imagine being actively annoyed with many otherwise small aspects of a vehicle I drive every day.
@sigvelosnegard44722 ай бұрын
At least Fisker don't say that they're selling fully self-driving cars. Credit where credit's due. ;-) As to OTA (over the air software updates), I'm getting mine OTG (on the ground) in a couple of weeks, even though it was supposed to update OTA, and I have a VW ID5.
@ObaidRehmanR76Ай бұрын
In all genuinity, i would love to own this car with all its flaws. lovely color, plush soft interior, looks so good. Software issues sure can be sorted out in coming months.
@danvilelaАй бұрын
I liked california mode!
@calebperry65302 ай бұрын
I saw a blue one of these on a flatbed driving down the freeway the other day. It was gorgeous!
@cbotten1062 ай бұрын
Does that count as seeing one "on the road" in your book?
@andrew28632 ай бұрын
Saying he’d take the Vinfast VF8 over the Ocean is a HUGE blow to Fisker OOOPH
@ettcha2 ай бұрын
Vinfast had made actual hardware changes in addition to software fixes (not sure if it was a direct response to Donut Media, but I think their feedback was taken into consideration). The updated VF8 got decent reviews over the first version.
@AvocadoAtrocity2 ай бұрын
Yeah, because the Vinfast is actually awful. Makes me wonder how much time he spends with these cars.
@sws2122 ай бұрын
@@AvocadoAtrocityBoth are awful but Vinfast has support from their government and will still be around 5 years from now.
@RoneyThomas2 ай бұрын
@@AvocadoAtrocity Vinfast has working key fobs. Even with v2 update Fisker key fob is still unreliable.
@alexlabs48582 ай бұрын
Donut LOVED the VF8! lol
@FanzindelАй бұрын
That re-gen cutout when going over a bump is a normal thing on a gen3 Prius and it’s just as scary.
@cafegabela26562 ай бұрын
The best Tech reviewer, ver transparent, straightforward.
@rockthompson34762 ай бұрын
Seatbelt safety seems like a feature that should be called out . The software is holding it back. Hardware the car does look pretty good. I think the follow up was a good idea. They should have maybe waited a little longer to release the car. Remember Top Gear and the original Tesla Roadster.
@andreasl45072 ай бұрын
Facts.
@manuelight2 ай бұрын
my vw golf also has the seatbelt thing, pretty common i suppose
@sprinkle612 ай бұрын
This is a very bad feature, yea, I get it, but stuff happens, the sensor on the belt could break, it could be an emergency, the belt could be damaged. Car still needs to drive, belt or no belt. This will inevitably lead to the car getting towed more than once, when it breaks, but the car is perfectly drivable otherwise.
@CallMeAnisse2 ай бұрын
I like the seatbelt thing, tbh. I've said it once and will say it again and again: that should be done more, not less. It is concerning the amount of accidents that have turned fatal because the driver wasn't wearing the seatbelt where I live
@monsterpatbro10412 ай бұрын
It's untrue ask any Ocean owner
@JeffWinter12 ай бұрын
Glad you at least gave it another shot. Glad to see they fixed a bunch of stuff. Hope they survive and make it better.
@antonioduverge3558Ай бұрын
Best and most honest review, this guy saved a lot of people for purchasing a problem.
@lingyt10012 ай бұрын
Is there any chance you would review a Xiaomi SU7? I'm eager to see how good/bad it is.
@FedeHippo2 ай бұрын
It was the same story with Henrik Fiskers last car project, the Fisker Karma. The car was beautiful, but unreliable. And the company closed down within a year. When i saw the news about the Fisker Ocean I was very tempted to order one, because the price here in Denmark was really attractive. But knowing that Henrik Fisker was the man behind it, I didnt do it. The Ocean was delayed again and again, but then they proudly annonced that they had delivered it to their first customer. It turned out that their first "customer" was actually a co-founder of Fisker. And regular customers had to wait a few months further... Even though Henrik is from Denmark, just like me, and he has designed nice cars for BMW, Ford, and Aston Martin. I will never trust a thing that man is behind
@pushslice2 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Fisker Coachbuild , the one before that….and that company had an even shorter/sadder life LOL.
@fist0032 ай бұрын
anyone giving money to Fisker after the Karma are just idiots. He should just stick to designing cars and have others to lead in building it
@femaledeer2 ай бұрын
I forgot about that. Maybe this was always a scam.
@pushslice2 ай бұрын
@@femaledeer Kind of looking like that right? He is a better dressed, classy-like, less-coke-y version of Adam Neumann.
@DaGoat972 ай бұрын
I hope Fisker can pull out of this! quality comp is what this industry needs! It looks decent! As far as MKBHD concern, could be a software toggle. Such a half baked review and I hate it for Fisker..
@antoinkiely79722 ай бұрын
I agree ... yes fisker did release a car with some software bugs... so they did leave a door open to criticism there.... but the level of negatively and half baked (on purpose?) commentary they received has blown away the door, the hinges and everything..
@anthonydotb2 ай бұрын
@@antoinkiely7972 It feels orchestrated almost. I mean Marques seemed upset about the things that they did fix. It's as if it didn't matter what they did. Nothing in his eyes mattered. It was all about the views. Screw all of those people who might be losing their jobs, because I need views... Pathetic. Doug even made a comment about how he didn't agree with MKBHD. LOL I trust the guy who east sleeps and breathes cars, over Marques; a guy who makes "tech" videos but who's about as knowledgable about tech as the average consumer.
@stu356Ай бұрын
@@anthonydotb He very clearly said many things were better and described what was and wasn't fixed in this particular vehicle.
@raremageАй бұрын
I’m a IT manager who is often responsible for making buying decisions for a very large company. One of the key considerations for me when looking at niche solutions is to understand the small company strategic vision (go public, get bought, operate profitably, etc) and are they fiscally sound. I never used to worry about that with a car purchase, but now…
@ARISPEANUT5 күн бұрын
To be honest the safety belt feature is a great idea and should be implemented in all cars
@DraaelD2 ай бұрын
Okay, firstly. I'm very happy they were willing to work with you again to show the issues were mostly resolved via an update. But as I sat here watching, it dawned on me; how far off in the future would the AF channel becomes a patch notes review channel for these EVs? Because thats what they're basically making you do here. Isn't that what beta testing teams are for? Why must a well known car enthusiast on YT be subjected to public scrutiny regarding stock prices and other bogus claims(ugh, that got me so crossed). Why are they having these issues in the first place? Hey we fixed the walking up to the door bug... ready to review patch notes 2.1? You get my point, right?
@Geckogold2 ай бұрын
I think this video was an exception because of how scathingly bad his first review of it was.
@codysawyer40872 ай бұрын
It’s not that serious bro
@6355742 ай бұрын
Leave that to the brand loyalist channels. They are all over the updates.
@Akosa1172 ай бұрын
You are you new too car reviews?
@No1TypeC2 ай бұрын
@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM Did you miss how fucking pissed they were about his first video? It would have been entirely unsurprising if they simply ignored and blacklisted him out of anger
@mag.yt8182 ай бұрын
I love my Fisker Ocean Ultra, I’ve had minimal issues (small minor annoyances and alerts) in almost 3 months of ownership. I’ve been on full 2.0 over a month. I really hope fisker stays in business or a large manufacturer buys the company after BK and continues to rollout the software and service and warranty these beautiful vehicles. Thx for the video review redo MK, but u continue to get details wrong tho. I received 1.11 and 2.0 via OTA. So OTA is possible but there were about 500 oceans that needed to have 2.0 manually installed by a tech.
@petera69842 ай бұрын
@@bielmelichartes2167 What is your malfunction?
@kibbyonyoutube2 ай бұрын
Well I sure hope your 3 month old car has no issues 💀
@SunnyHF-nf4bc2 ай бұрын
@@bielmelichartes2167 I understand that the Fisker fans on YT can be annoying, but why attempt kick the car owners that actually love their purchases and have shown no animosity towards reviewers?
@monsterpatbro10412 ай бұрын
It was BS review. He said OTA can't be done and a tech has to come out.
@MichaelWilliams-zm3rq2 ай бұрын
There is a video out by the guy who loaned his Fisker to MKBHD and in that video Fisker is on the phone with the guy and it is painfully clear that a technician (Senior Tech or something) had to come out and update his vehicle with 2.0. Fisker was not pleased with the review or with MKBHD. I'd link the video but I'm lazy and don't care enough.
@N0Xa880iUL20 күн бұрын
Company: Sells an unfinished car. Mkbhd: I'm going to end your entire career.
@frankwakeman52162 ай бұрын
Marcus, do you have on your schedule to review the Electric MINI SE? (The Mini Cooper company) Frank
@dontbanmebrodontbanme54032 ай бұрын
The thing you said in the end is the most important. If the company is going to cease to exist, nothing else matters. Who in their right mind would spend $50K+ on a car from a company that won’t be around to support it?
@andreasl45072 ай бұрын
Stopid people lol. But they gotta do better price for people to take the chance.
@user-vb3ly7ib4r2 ай бұрын
If they make it all open source it would be a fun car to tinker with
@zergslayer692 ай бұрын
They’re banking on people who don’t follow tech news and aren’t aware of potential closure to buy the cars
@SchemeTeamSix2 ай бұрын
Same people who think EVs are the future
@silentKeys202 ай бұрын
@@SchemeTeamSixThe whole point of EV's is that they're live service cars that get better over time. If they company isn't around anymore then there's almost zero point getting an EV. Rather get a Honda or Toyota and get a usable car for 10 if not 20 more years lol
@anditosan2 ай бұрын
I should mention that the 2.0 software does not require a technician to go out to you unless you're in a car that has specific issues related to OTA. Successful updates with 2.0 happen OTA. My car updated over the air. Key fob works every time for me, which it did not use to. I guess Fisker's work needs to focus on the experience differences between their cars. Overall a good car.
@stu356Ай бұрын
I imagine there are a lot of different versions of hardware components in these early cars. I suspect a larger OEM was have scrapped a lot of hardware that ended up being used in production vehicles where it should not have been.
@BakingwithFabian2 ай бұрын
What an awesome follow up to the original review of this vehicle. Absolutely here for the shade MKBHD is throwing right back at this company.
@ora100532 ай бұрын
We have four Ocean's on Munich plates sitting for weeks seemingly abandoned on one spot in the forest, in the outskirts of Berlin. Every time I drive by, I wonder what happened to them.
@SargePfeffer2 ай бұрын
The newer Suburbans will also not engage Drive unless you buckle up, so I would say, yes, it is a "feature"
@Popster682 ай бұрын
I just sold mine last Thursday. I really liked driving it and it was well built, but didn’t want to stick around with the uncertainty. And by uncertainty i mean Fisker throwing a Hail Mary trying to get investors despite not being able to provide trustworthy financials because they literally lost $ 150M of customer payments. THAT uncertainty. I was never able to get updates but I had a hardware issue that caused other oddities. Those issues seemed unique from other owners. It was eventually fixed in late Feb (I got it in Oct) What pissed me off was the complete runaround. Everyone said it was escalated in my weekly calls to the company, trying hard not to sound scripted. Not once was I able to talk to anyone at a higher level. The ones who provided a number kept leaving. Maybe a coincidence, but it wasn’t until I started speaking up on socials did they come out. So that’s similar to what was said about coming out to update. I signed up knowing there were risks and growing pains, but didn’t sign up for hospice care. Hoping the best for all those who stuck it out, some good people in the FB groups.
@cbotten1062 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. People should hear it from real former owners.
@cb862582 ай бұрын
Why would you want this? Just to be different? Not being rude. I just am baffled by wanting this. I wouldn’t want it for free.
@skip741x32 ай бұрын
@@cb86258 As a guy who is still driving the only new car I ever bought , from way back in 1994, I would Absolutely take one of these for free! problems aside, its a new car with latest tech ,massive power vs my old ride.. heck yeah, I could overlook some issues becuz ive lived a Long time with a car thats had mega issues...the ones mentioned here wouldnt even make a ripple in my coffee.
@RobertoHerrera-bm4pl2 ай бұрын
@@cb86258 new tech, new things there is always first products from a company, I mean someone gotta try them, tbh I would I think if they keep going and fix things they could get far, they have nice design and hardware
@falxonPSN2 ай бұрын
@@cb86258when it was announced, the company was not in such dire straits.
@mitchbrown10723 күн бұрын
Its on Gisker for not releasing a car that was finished. Its not a video game, its the second most valuable thing, after a house, that anyone will ever buy in their life.
@gabigabriel8172 ай бұрын
Seatbelt and handbrake work together on Mazda CX-30 also. So it`s a feature. Handbrake will automatically disengage only if you have seatbelt on. Without seatbelt you need to manually disengage.
@behzadahmadi58892 ай бұрын
I guess I was one of the lucky ones who got the 2.0 update via OTC and without a Tech visit. I had my Ocean for 3 months now and I can agree with most of the reviews specifically about the key fob and lack of support and service. My car was delivered dirty and scratched and I am still waiting for them to fix the scratches. It is a fun, solid car to drive now that many of the software bugs are fixed but not all. If (big if) they survive, I also would not recommend it until they develop a solid service and support system for car owners.
@femaledeer2 ай бұрын
You did this to yourself.
@GeorgeSkibo2 ай бұрын
Ocean One owner here, and received my 2.0 update OTA, not sure what the "send someone to every car" comment was about. All in all its treated me VERY well. I am aware of the wild inconstancies of experience so far and they def need to tighten that up before its too late (if not already). This 2.0 doesnt fix all, but it proves that things are fixable if the company can hang around long enough to do so.
@kaaworii2 ай бұрын
good luck owning a car from a company who wont be able to support it a month from now
@GeorgeSkibo2 ай бұрын
@@kaaworii Thanks i guess? IDGAF about fisker or tesla or this dude or you. I like the car and HOPE the company doesnt shit the bed (which they are actively doing) im not getting into any fanboy shit on the internet cause i have adult responsibilities.. but unfortunately this guys opinion holds weight for some reason and the rats just follow. whatev, you do you though bra
@riss3372 ай бұрын
Just curious, why did you pick this car over the other EVs in the market?
@RoneyThomas2 ай бұрын
Well it’s because Fisker called the owner of Fisker, which Marques reviewed previously and told him they are sending “senior engineer” there is a video of the call on KZbin.
@MaticTheProto2 ай бұрын
@@kaaworiiI always wonder why demented losers like you are rooting for the failure of a new company trying to make good, cheap evs…
@johnperekopsky3271Ай бұрын
Regarding the "feature" of not being able to drive away without the seat belt, my new Chevy Silverado has something similar. It will not allow you to shift into Drive until the seat belt is fastened. However, this applies only after the vehicle is first started. For example, if you've been driving, stop, put the truck into park, get out leaving the truck running, you can then get back in and drive away without fastening the seat belt. Luckily this feature can be disabled in the options.
@RSuweidan2 ай бұрын
Where do you get your info from? I’ve had my Ocean since Oct 4 and it’s been updated to 1.10, 1.11, and 2.0 all were OTA. THERE WAS NEVER A TIME WHEN A TECH NEEDED TO COME AND INSTALL SOFTWARE…NEVER!
@Daxiongmao872 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about the hangup with the seatbelt feature. There are so many people who drive or ride without seatbelts, which increases the fatality rate not for just you but for other passengers. Is it annoying? probably, but for me, literally every time I sit in a car I'd have to stop myself from putting on the seatbelt since it's so automatic.
@markplott48202 ай бұрын
RIP .⚰
@bobbowie93502 ай бұрын
I dont know a single person that doesn't wear seat belts
@bosstowndynamics54882 ай бұрын
It's not a huge deal but there are edge cases where it's useful to be able to drive without a seatbelt, including low speed manoeuvring for eg swapping cars around in a driveway or garage (something Marques is likely to do a lot more given all the car reviews). Plus, the people who choose to drive without a seatbelt are actively avoiding or bypassing those features, and those of us who use one routinely don't require the reminder anyway as you said.
@markplott48202 ай бұрын
@@bobbowie9350 - SEAT belts are Required by LAW. and those who DONT , win the Darwin Award & subject for TICKETS & FINES,.
@sandbugt2 ай бұрын
@@bosstowndynamics54887
@Space_Trash2 ай бұрын
Underseat storage seems like a smart idea in a country with such gun happy police.
@rossr66162 ай бұрын
those underwear hatches are "suicide doors"
@troyisaac86662 ай бұрын
rt, but nor do we (consumers) want to perform acrobats to grab our hand sanitizers...
@MarksTech2 ай бұрын
The fact that the car doesnt go into drive without having your seatbelt on HAS to be a concern. What if youre in a dangerous situation and you need to try into your car and speed away. like, if a mugger is after you, or some weird stalker. probably not the best example, but you get the picture. very weird feature...
@paulhaddock96492 ай бұрын
Or robbing a bank, escaping a jealous husband...
@joescad2 ай бұрын
My 2010 VW Polo has "California Mode"... Most cars open all windows when you hold down the unlock button on the fob.
@stu356Ай бұрын
I think the point is that all the windows (side and rear) and roof open, not that the fob can make the side windows drop.
@williamkinzel36352 ай бұрын
Nice review! Thank you for your transparency and not caving to conform to criticism
@CaptDnaDonut2 ай бұрын
I still hope Fisker can make it. The Ocean seems like a good starting point.
@reactrandurtle6032 ай бұрын
My brother in Christ, the company died this week, move on it’s joever
@femaledeer2 ай бұрын
Or a good ending point
@zgeoreg2 ай бұрын
Company woes aside, how would you review this strictly as a product? Personally, I find it quite nice looking. Even the interior. That color changing dial is an interesting touch, but is it really distracting? My eyes are mostly on the road when driving...
@stu356Ай бұрын
Mostly distracting at night.
@EvaldasNaujikas2 ай бұрын
Handbrake not disengaging without seatbelt is actually a feature on quite a lot of cars.
@alatmancave70932 ай бұрын
he is a clown
@barbaragramigni40882 ай бұрын
The boot up is due to the setting the car is at. If you set it to deep sleep after 10 min that does take longer...set it to 24 hours and it boots right up. No you do not need to have a tech come out to have 2.0...over the air worked just fine for me.
@Luciferisking5122 ай бұрын
Surprise surprise MKBHD is clueless about the car he is reviewing
@LubomirGeorgiev2 ай бұрын
Are you saying that you have to use deep sleep? or its optional?
@barbaragramigni40882 ай бұрын
@@LubomirGeorgiev you don't have to but if you are leaving the car for extended time to travel you may want to.
@C0nfu510n2 ай бұрын
Great update for sure. Thanks for covering it
@bushmanontwowheels2 ай бұрын
It be like this sometimes, even my 2024 Model X as 'perfect' as it is, isn't perfect :) as a dev i do still appreciate how far we've come when it comes to tech. Nothing is perfect, thanks for the review!
2 ай бұрын
Do you have any chance to review a byd? Dunno if that brand is available in the us.
@nics9840Ай бұрын
I don’t believe BYD is available in the US, however there are plenty of very positive reviews for the Atto 3, Dolphin and Seal on Uk and Australian channels.
@edlukens24472 ай бұрын
The Ultra version doesn't have the taco tray - so more room in the console - and doesn't have the roof solar panels. I like the glass roof better. Thanks for getting Fisker's attention - I hope they are able to fix everything even if in Chapter 11.
@puchmercedesg55682 ай бұрын
I had never a problem or a feeling like described by Marques while breaking in almost 2.000 km
@Luciferisking5122 ай бұрын
This man is by far one of the most overrated and and least knowledgeable KZbinrs in the car review world. It’s embarrassing how much he gets wrong in every video.
@tonespeaks2 ай бұрын
@puchmercedesg5568 NHTSA is investigating this issue, Marques is not the first to notice it. It was reported by Fisker Ocean owners.
@doom4532 ай бұрын
@Luciferisking512 You do know this is one guys opinion right? Someone who just likes cars but may not have a huge background in them
@jsac39392 ай бұрын
@@doom453 I subscribe to MKBHD’s KZbin channels and enjoy his content. But i don’t think his car reviews are great, especially compared to others on KZbin. He needs to realize how important it is that he gets all the details right in his car reviews bc of the influence he holds.
@saminda1002 ай бұрын
This guy is an idiot. He should not be reviewing cars.
@postshawnАй бұрын
I checked out the Ocean and inside felt it was a little too small. I didn't drive it but the materials felt nice. I did this while owning a 2021 ID.4. That car was my worst car experience. It had a lot of the same issues you found with the Ocean but with a much larger and mature car company. So I can't fully knock Fisker for those same issues in my mind at least. I looked for your review of an ID.4 to see if you reviewed an early model and didn't see one. Supposedly the newer models are much better so it would be a interesting car for you to review and compare to all the other cars in the segment. With the ID.4 we had issues with the software and not over the air updating too. - It took 23 months and 29k miles before they were able to get it in to update it at a dealership to have the updated software and over the air capabilities. - Mine had some sort of sensor issue where it would give me warnings about drive aids not working and to see a dealership. But then they would go away after a few minutes. Multiple times my dealer just tells me there's nothing wrong. These warnings would come up on clear sunny days when the car was clean so nothing was blocking the sensors. - The tires installed from the manufacture were crap, possibly faulty. They came with 20" Bridgestones and they would wear way quicker then any other EV. I had to replace them at 18k miles and that's with literal chunks or rubber coming off the tires and the tread close to being too far worn. Other people only got 12k miles out of the tires. Yet people with Teslas and other EVs are getting 30k plus miles on the tires. VW did nothing about this. I replaced them with Pirellis and for the 10k miles I had the car for after that they barely wore compared to the 18k miles with the Bridgestones. - It didn't have a great regen or hold either and it mostly was updated with the software update. - My car had remote issues too. The passenger doors never unlocked on the first try. Most times it took 6 plus pushes before they finally unlocked. They had a recall for door locks and claimed they fixed it but mine never fixed and it still didn't work. - Speaking of recalls, in a little over 2 years there were 5 recalls requiring me to go to a dealer and drop it off with no curtesy car. So that's days I had to take off of work or work around driving to my nearest dealership, 45 minutes away each way to deal with this. In the end it was a shame because the car drove and handled pretty good, after the tire replacement. But I got rid of it as soon as I could and life couldn't be happier.
@MacGyver19082 ай бұрын
Oh man I really hope that Fisker servives, it’s such a good looking car 😢👏
@georgeshapiro3012 ай бұрын
I wonder if they could/would open course the software before going out of business. If they did, one could imagine a storied second life where the community, giddy at the prospect, quickly fixes all the issues and then some and the car becomes a rare, first of it's kind hit. One can dream. I'm sure Fisker owners looking at resale value can dream as well.
@bubba990092 ай бұрын
Definitely should happen but also won't happen.
@ye738122 ай бұрын
I thought that too, but I suspect the NHTSA would have something to say about cars zipping along the road governed by software downloaded off a 13 year old's Github. Still, if the regulators can be persuaded to verify the software then why not? I don't think Fisker will be selling their IP for much, given the state of the software right now!
@silentKeys202 ай бұрын
@@ye73812Yeah, unregulated software running around the street doesn't sound like the best idea. But isn't it basically the same thing with people running conventional cars with modded engines and internals?
@davidsmontgomery2 ай бұрын
Open sourcing a code base like this would likely be a very large task that Fisker has little incentive or cash to fund.
@FriedChairs2 ай бұрын
Doubt NHTSA would be happy about that since safety functions could be screwed up. How do they force a safety recall on user modified software?
@awesome83262 ай бұрын
blink twice if u r being forced to make this video by fisker
@DJCD9Global17 сағат бұрын
"The Fisker Ocean is the worst car I've ever reviewed" 18th March 2024 - 'Fisker Files for Bankruptcy'
@mikeobrien22772 ай бұрын
I'm a FOO owner and my 2.0 software was installed OTA. That boot up issue you speak of Ive Never seen. Hopefully they last because I love the car. It drives beautifully, very solid and fast.