Fisker Ocean - Software Update 2.2

[@rightbackagain]

Matt, you’re an MVP for us Ocean owners! Thanks, your definitely appreciated….✅🚙🍀

[@DaveDarin]

You are TRULY, in caps, AMAZING!!!! What a huge resource and benefit to Ocean owners. WOW!!!!

[@19Z5M]

Excellent video! Thanks for putting it out there! Quick story; I left town on the 12th and returned on the 15th, and to my surprise, I received 2.2 OTA! Charged to 85% before leaving, but I 'forgot' to plug in the newly installed trickle tickler. Key points; 1. 12v battery did run down to 65%, however the vehicle started no prob. 2. Lost 5% (drained to 80% SOC) thru vampire drain (left my dashcam plugged in accidentally 🤦🏿‍♂️ 3. Didn't hear any new fangled unlock/lock sounds or see any new graphics on the solar charge screen. 4. I never received a V2L adapter upon delivery of my FOO. I ended up puchasing a new one on ebay for a reasonable price. I'll test that out later. 5. I'm able to see the release notes for 2.2. Bottom line, I think they may push this in multiple updates. Or they scrapped some of the features you showcased in your video. ~Forward

[@MTNRanger]

@@19Z5M Sounds like you need the final part of the update. If you go to the settings and then software page, click on the software version 2.2. It should show you the ICC version - sounds like you need that update. It should be 1.1.49. When you get that, you will see a bunch of more stuff. Sounds like your 12V battery is in good condition. Good luck!

[@lvguntv3331]

And thanks for the help two weeks ago when you told me about the recalls and the updates, I would’ve never known and drove it away

[@jkywang2011]

Matt, This is very helpful and thorough for people that don't have 2.1 update yet. I am particularly glad to see the V2L demo. I saw that piece of accessary but never dare to use it. I guess that I just have to sit tight and wait for my turn of the 2.2 update. I got the 12V 3Amp battery charger and OBD II adaptor ready. The battery tender shows the SoC is > 50%. Hopefully that's enough.

[@MTNRanger]

I would try to get the 12V battery closer to 80% or so.

[@joceppi85]

Thank you, Matt! Great information and always helpful!!! Darwin looks happy about the update also!!!🤓🐶🤭

[@anbock55]

New unlock/lock sound is fantastic

[@sskv100]

Even your cute dog surprised for the new lock/unlock sounds.

[@JMgiarritta]

Nice , hopefully the underlying software improves some of the other issues like performance mileage and brake regeneration management features.

[@chanmanderson]

Great restraint not to punch Henrik in the face when he popped up... But seriously, thank you for this overview. I'm on 2.0 right now and am eager for the 2.2 OTA (but hopefully not when I'm out of town this weekend in case something goes wrong!)

[@MTNRanger]

I was thinking of making a snarking comment in the video!

[@tiagom.2706]

As always great great video ❤ Thanks a lot. Waiting for 2.2 on EU.

[@Tacocat123]

Can you do a camping mode test and see if you activate either the V2L or the rear power do you still need to sit in the car and leave the seatbelt buckled etc to keep it on? Thanks so much for your videos!!

[@jjScorpio]

Fantastic! Congrats Matt! 👏🏽

[@dtheflin01]

Thanks again!!! Great video as usual.

[@DMan-OceanOne]

….now I need to check if I received 2.2 yet! You are a cornucopia of Fisker info, many thanks.

[@DMan-OceanOne]

No update yet, still 2.0.

[@vytautasdantas7360]

think it's a great car for a really good price at the moment. Thanks for the video

[@cjzito]

Can you provide insight into how long the update lasted and how much energy is actually required? I've seen many amateur comments on FB about a minimum necessary charge on the main battery if not using a 12v battery tender. I've seen everything from 40% to 80% (which would be insane if the update is using that much energy). I would estimate 300 watts of energy being used (to run all the computers) during the update. At that rate, it's using 0.3 kWh of energy each hour, or less than 0.3% of the main battery capacity every hour (assuming the main battery is charging the 12v battery). Also, what connectivity is necessary? I've heard WiFi is required, which is going to be a problem for me where I currently have to park on the street. I would like to NOT have to buy and install a 12v battery tender. I think that's a ridiculous and unfair expectation for an automobile software upgrade.

[@MTNRanger]

@@cjzito My update occurred in one session and lasted about an hour. But I have heard others that had two or three downloads and installations before it was done. Some has the final part a day after the first. My car didn’t lose any HV battery pack charge since I was connected to a 20A battery tender. It is suggested to keep the car at 80% or more SOC. I don’t have an actual amount of energy the update used. I can see if I can get more info. If your 12V is in good condition, you probably don’t need a tender. If you don’t get 12V battery warnings or experience issues you should be fine. At this point, owners have to take responsibility since the company is basically gone. They are going to have to do solve problems that are normally done by the manufacturer. Good signal for either WiFi or 4G is needed.

[@vincee.4753]

My FOO bricked after the first 2.1 update. Already replaced my 12v with no luck. HV doesn’t work and I can’t shift other than into N and P. Any advice how I get service?

[@ned-qo3cc]

Hi Matt, Another excellent video. I’m looking forward to the 2.2 OTA update. Question: How did you know you had the 2.2 update coming? Thanks, N

[@MTNRanger]

@@ned-qo3cc I’m part of a test group that includes 25 cars. We had a warning when it would arrive. Unfortunately as the update rolls out it will be random for other owners.

[@ned-qo3cc]

Thanks good buddy

[@o0Dan0o]

Love the V2L addition. Wish we had a NEMA 15-50 version of the V2L adapter...

[@MTNRanger]

@@o0Dan0o Unfortunately there is a limitation with the onboard charger.

[@jatinshah1257]

Thank you for the update. Informative as always. How did you know you are receiving update? I connect 4 amp tender every night. Is that enough to keep 12 volts battery charged during update?

[@MTNRanger]

@@jatinshah1257 I’m part of a test group for this update. Personally I feel the 4 Amp battery tender should be enough for the update. We are seeing a variety of results. If you have a strong battery, you may not need the tender. I prefer to play it safe and keep one connected while we are expecting updates. I could do a whole video on the “controversy” of using a tender.

[@jatinshah1257]

Thank you.

[@MRFiskerOcean-cm7um]

Matt, Thank you for the great video. I'm looking forward to receiving the 2.2 update, even though my car is currently bricked (won't shift out of park). Can you check and see if the TomTom Map will update after receiving OS 2.2?

[@MTNRanger]

Sorry to hear, I hope it gets fixed soon. Good question on the TomTom maps. I tried on 2.0 last week and it failed. I'll check again.

[@Eddie696ful]

Matt is amazing, He guild me on the benefits for my Fisker Ocean One. Matt thank you for answering my Facebook messages...you are greatly appreciated!!!!

[@esrandl]

awesome! thanks for video!!

[@JosephDewar-d3k]

Great video, I live in Palm Beach, how soon do you think that I will get the 2.2 update?

[@MTNRanger]

The initial testing is done. Like the other OTA updates, the rollout appears to be random.

New owner # 2175, updated 2.2 and new water pump installed by Newport Fisker, love your videos. What is the small monitor on the steering column, tire pressure monitor? Does the car not have it, eventhough it shows on settings? Thanks

[@MTNRanger]

No, the car uses wheel spin to detect low pressure. It doesn't have a real TPMS sensors. I added this for more information. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3-chGmlh8ynh5osi=SfXX0v8Fhv5LLdVI

[@Darrenhd2]

Very nice! If you are on the test group can you ask for them to fix the lag/slowness in earth mode when you press the accelerator? It should be smooth like a Tesla in Chill mode. Also it would be nice for the car to remember what mode you are in, so you could start off in Fun or Hyper mode from the get-go. And it would be amazing if there was a real-time Kw (power output) reading on the dash. Not to mention it display individual tire pressures too!

[@MTNRanger]

@@Darrenhd2 The testing was not about suggesting new features or improvements. We are probably not going to see other updates. Unless taken up by AL and FOA.

[@petertierney994]

Im confused, instructions for 2.2 stated to not have a tender connected but everyone seems to do it. Also i noticed you gat a more powerful tender then the 4amp one on your previous video. Should i keep my 4amp tender connected? Should i get a more powerful tender?

[@MTNRanger]

@@petertierney994 I feel the use of a battery tender is fairly controversial but I am going to suggest using one. If you do use one, I suggest keeping it connected when the car is not driven to insure the 12V is always near capacity. I do that anyway to reduce phantom losses as it is. It just happens to be that I am testing the high amp battery charger this week. I feel if you already have a 4-5 A battery tender, it should work fine.

[@petertierney994]

@@MTNRanger if without a tendor my 12v rarely dips below 12.5 do u still recommended? I guess the risk is if the update starts when it's at 12.4 or lower it may have issues. I noticed you battery is always 14v I assume due to tendor. Also my 12v charge % is always 80-100. I can't see why a tendor would effect update and you and Mike both were successful with a tendor on.

[@cptpltM2000]

@@MTNRanger great video yet again! where did you get the SAE leads that work with your charger?

[@MTNRanger]

@@petertierney994 Yes, if your 12V stays above 12.5V, you should be fine. Yes, I don't feel the tender affects the update. There is some thought that if the update occurs and the 12V battery is say at 50% and your tender has not charged it up, the system may think the high voltage of the tender is really the battery. This may cause a problem in that the tender (3-5 amp version) can't keep up with the demands of the update and will kill the battery. I don't think this is a likely scenario. When I have the tender connected, the 12V battery percentage is usually between 80-100%.

[@MTNRanger]

@@cptpltM2000 I used these: amzn.to/3XE10xM Perfect length. It replaced the six foot extension and the 18" cable that came with the charger. Both were only 16 AWG and 7.5 A fuse capable. The new one is 10 AWG and up to 30 A. I'll be covering this in a new video (don't know when, so much going on!)

[@ralfhartmann208]

Does Fisker inform you about the installation time for this Update ? And we see that a charger is usefull in the uptdateprocess. Thankx for you work.

[@MTNRanger]

@@ralfhartmann208 I only knew since I was one of 25 owners doing this test. I’m not sure what is planned for the full roll out.

[@USUG0]

has the adaptive cruise control been enabled? Thanks

[@MTNRanger]

Unfortunately, no.

[@jamesdelahoussaye9803]

Thanks! How were you notified that you were getting the update? I always leave my vehicle plugged in and don’t look forward to just leaving it unplugged hoping for an update to come through.

[@MTNRanger]

@@jamesdelahoussaye9803 we were notified two days before since we were in the test group. The subsequent rollout updates will get no warning.

[@rays3057]

Hey Matt.. given your experience so far.. would you buy an Extreme today for $25k ? $20k ? --- Apprehensive in ONT.

[@MTNRanger]

@@rays3057 I definitely would under $25k. The software has settled down and I think is reliable on 2.2. I think service and parts are going to works themselves out with FOA and independent shops. I would not if it’s your only vehicle.

[@lvguntv3331]

I bought an ocean the dealership took care of the update and the recalls They upgraded at the dealer to 2.2 they insured me. It’s running on 2.2 But it’s still showing 1.1 they said they can’t change that but by your video it shows the parking brake light and ABS lights are larger solar power roof has those colors on it. It looks like 2.2 but doesn’t reflect on the car. Fisker Newport tech said it has to be flashed to show 2.2 on the monitor. Does that sound right? Thank for the video

[@MTNRanger]

Yes, the release notes showing 1.1 is a bug that all 2.2 versions show. The larger driver screen icon text should be a part of 2.1. The final update for the TREX is by OTA - even if you have the first parts of the installation done manually. So you have to wait. Unfortunately, OTA are on hold.

[@lvguntv3331]

@@MTNRangerthank you

[@cjzito]

Curious what the current limit is when using the "vehicle to load" adapter? Is there a built-in breaker? Is it 15, 20 or 30 amps (30 amp outlets do exist for 120v, but I think they are shaped a little different). Is there a way you can test the load limit with a high-current device or devices? Like a high wattage power tool, hair dryer, refrigerator?

[@MTNRanger]

@@cjzito From testing there seems to be a 10 A limit for the V2L adapter - similar to the trunk outlet. I’m not aware of a fuse or breaker since it is directly connected to the onboard charger.

[@milanmisun7072]

Hi. I would be interested in more information about the new graphic color display of the solar roof after the new update 2.2. Does it no longer show real power in watts? As it was until now in 2.1 Thank you.

[@MTNRanger]

Funny, it's been raining for several days now and I haven't been able to test! I'm doing a follow up video in a few days and I should cover it.

[@dipuanna]

Thank you! Question: Do you still have TBox external reset button which you installed for Maps/4g connection?

[@MTNRanger]

@@dipuanna Yes, I still have the Tbox switch. I have had to use it twice since installation.

[@dipuanna]

@@MTNRanger Thank you

[@271830066]

Matt. Does 2.2 resolve the 12 volt battery drain issue so we want need to keep it on a trickle charger anymore.

[@MTNRanger]

For the most part if you have a healthy 12V battery, the 2.2 update will manage it a lot better than previously. I only leave mine on the trickle charger when I'm away from the car for several days. My battery is getting close to needing to be replaced, so I'm making sure it's protected a bit more.

[@TheRedRaven_]

I see that prices are going down on these, I'm a mechanic by trade but I never messed with EV's, you think it would be a decent investment in getting one of these? I pretty much do all the maintenance on my cars so that isn't the issue, I'm just worried about future problems that might creep up considering parts for this cars are insanely expensive.

[@MTNRanger]

I would join some of the message boards and follow along. Yes, the big issues are parts and software.

[@nirmalpatel1819]

I am curious, do we get advance notice that we are getting update. I thought they would push it automatically without prior notification.

[@MTNRanger]

@@nirmalpatel1819 Only the test group got a warning. For the general rollout it will work just like previous updates.

[@GaryHoel]

Is there any information out on the V2L inverter? Capacity? Does the inverter to 120 volt connect to 12 volt or 360 volt system? If drawing off the 12 volt battery, I would be concerned that the HV battery may not keep up in charging the 12 volt battery if the inverter is drawing from it and reduce 12 volt battery life.

[@MTNRanger]

Capacity is limited by the connector which is a NEMA 5-15 which allows up to 120 volts at 12 amps. Which translates to 1440 watts. It’s connected to the high voltage battery pack. It’s on a separate circuit than what charges the 12V battery. Both are small compared to what the regen and drive motors are capable of using. I’ll be able to verify this weekend when I do a test using an EVSE to charge my Tesla from the V2L adapter.

[@fredmohammadi2527]

I have a 4 Amp tender, do you think that it would be adequate to connect to the battery during update, or does a higher amperage is needed

[@MTNRanger]

@@fredmohammadi2527 Yes, it should be enough. If you had the update scheduled, hook up the charger a couple hours before to make sure it’s fully charged up.

[@fredmohammadi2527]

Thanks

[@DrJavyMartinez]

Did it improve responsiveness of the UI? Did it boot faster upon startup?

[@MTNRanger]

@@DrJavyMartinezI did not notice any UI enhancements or speed improvements.

[@randyjackson1517]

It states not to use a 12 volt trickle charger while updating on association website for 2.2 update ??

[@MTNRanger]

You can ignore that. It was successfully shown during the testing of 25 initial vehicles that trickle charging is fine.

[@assadlawani9134]

Does the new update 2.2 include the new snow/Ice drive mode?

[@MTNRanger]

Unfortunately, no new drive modes.

[@cjzito]

what tire pressure monitor are you using? Link? How do you like it?

[@MTNRanger]

Search for my TPMS video in the for detail. Here is the item: amzn.to/3B5LvWC

[@memyselfundeye]

Ok, does this mean that the V2L will shut off when car powers down if you dont keep hitting brake? It does this when i use the AC while parked on the side of the road working on my laptop… If so, its not well thought out.

[@MTNRanger]

@@memyselfundeye I need to test that this weekend.

[@rmorales1029]

Will we be able to V2H with the proper switch installed at the garage?

[@MTNRanger]

@@rmorales1029 V2H is a separate thing. No word on if that will happen for future updates.

[@officialmitchellwarren]

To my knowledge there is no way to set up a profile with the mobile App anymore as the API/backend seems to have been shut off. Can you confirm this is the case?

[@MTNRanger]

@@officialmitchellwarren Yes you can pair the phone with the car and it will reinstall the previous profile you had. Look up my pairing video to do that.

[@morrispriddy]

How do you know the update is coming? Does it give you a notice similar to a computer?

[@MTNRanger]

As previously, OTA seem to be random. Only the limited test of 25 cars had a 24 hour warning before it happened. It's best to keep the car at a high state of charge, say around 80% just in case.

[@danielshively9778]

Question do you have to have the 12volt charging when installing the update? Can't you just plug in the level 2 charger and be good?

[@MTNRanger]

@@danielshively9778The car can’t be connected/charging for the update to occur.

[@danielshively9778]

@@MTNRanger so what if your HV battery is 80% are you safe or do you still need to charge the 12v while updating?

[@MTNRanger]

@@danielshively9778 I depends on how healthy the 12V battery is. Some people have reported no issues without a tender. Do you get 12V battery warnings on the driver screen?

[@danielshively9778]

​@@MTNRanger I was considering on buying one...I like the look of quality...my Tesla doesn't have the issues with the 12v while updating.

[@meisamsalahi2188]

Unfortunately we still don't have the update in Canada.

[@MTNRanger]

@@meisamsalahi2188 2.2 updates are just in limited testing right now.

[@stephenbeattie6606]

Would the OBD tender be sufficient to nurse the battery through the 2.2 update?

[@TheEVAddict]

I do not recommend it. The computer updates and that charges through the computer obd port

[@MTNRanger]

@@stephenbeattie6606 Hard to say. Like Mike says,unless it’s directly wired, it may not work during the update.

[@Sploitheworld]

Is there a way to stop overhead lights from coming on once I put it in park?

[@MTNRanger]

@@Sploitheworld No, you have to manually turn them off.

[@devangparikh1]

Can you post the video of TPMS you have on dashboard

[@MTNRanger]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3-chGmlh8ynh5osi=Rgs0xCzcjMHeYkiI Here is the item: amzn.to/3B5LvWC

[@mohammedk8214]

Hi, thank you but how long does it take to update the car to 2.2?

[@MTNRanger]

It took roughly an hour. But I left it an additional hour just to make sure.

[@mohammedk8214]

@@MTNRanger thank you

[@dakotapahel-short3192]

How did you know an update was coming?

[@MTNRanger]

I’m part of a test group.

[@ma9or1503]

@@MTNRangerthat’s really nice What should the rest of us non test members in California do My vehicle hasn’t updated I need a ton of service To include my door handle being stuck open My ac vents don’t work My California mode doesn’t work And my key fob isn’t always active

[@MTNRanger]

@@ma9or1503 What version are you on now? Depending where you are in CA, there are five service centers. Sounds like you need a replacement door handle - you are going to need to find a salvage one on eBay. CA mode will need a reset with FAST. Other than breaking the vents so they are manual, there are no replacement vents. The key fob works well with v2.0 and higher.

[@torostertt]

If I cant get internet services even though it shows full signal on mobile 4G bar - then what to do? It will also not recognise Wi-Fi networks even after I added my home SSIDs on 2.4GHz or hotspot from my mobile phone. Is this the time where we need to unplug the fuses for the T-box reset or do you think a new SW update (not OTA) to 2.2 will make it work?

[@MTNRanger]

@@torostertt I have another video coming out that may help. The wifi configuration seems supremely bugging and error prone. I sometimes have wifi connection even when the car says it is not connected. I hace to some more research to see if this update affected WiFi.

[@torostertt]

@@MTNRanger sounds good. Looking forward to that video. Will the video also cover the actual 4G internet service since I have zero access to the internet on this car today unfortunately. Good to have a FO Guru on youtube :)

[@sskv100]

Any improvement in ADAS fan noise after 2.2 update ?

[@TheEVAddict]

I do not have this at all in 2.2

[@MTNRanger]

I never had the ADAS fan issue. So I can’t say.

[@DaveDarin]

Since your battery was on the tender and it dropped to 12.62 which, from what I read, is NOT a good thing for the Fisker, that makes a clear case that the car needs to be on a tender, not that anyone is expecting any OTA beyond 2.2. And for any download to take this long is EXTREMELY bad. No download for anything should take this long, unacceptable. No wonder batteries are being drained during an OTA. I don't even keep the doom lights on my ICE cars on for that long. That long a download is very unacceptable and with a clear drain from your over 14v to 12.6 which would have been MUCH more significant if you did not have the tender that is a clear potential for an significant issue.

[@steveatchison6891]

Without a 12v charger attached, what are the chances of a complete 12v drain? I had a catastrophic failure with 2.1 and want to avoid. Surely not everyone is going to have a charger attached?

[@TheEVAddict]

Many are reporting that they were fine. Connection is recommended by Matt and I but you should be fine if you drive your ocean regularly.

[@MTNRanger]

@@steveatchison6891 The test group did not have any installation bricking or dead batteries. If your 12V battery is healthy you should be fine.

[@MTNRanger]

@@steveatchison6891 Hard to say. If you have had 12V warnings or issues, i definitely recommend using a tender.

[@jensphilippsen8344]

I'm confused, cause i am still on 2,0 and many gets 2,2 at this point.. How can i get updates, cause Fisker does not answer mails... So am i forever just on 2,0..

[@TheEVAddict]

Many are going right from 2.0 to 2.2 including myself

[@MTNRanger]

@@jensphilippsen8344 If you are on 2.0, you should be getting 2.2 at some point. There is no communication with Fisker anymore.

[@byrdcampbell7064]

How would I get the update? I'm still using 1.11 OS

[@MTNRanger]

I’m not sure if 2.0 would need to be installed first. Right now 2.2 is in limited release.

[@sungjepark4866]

If i want to get update 2.2 what do i have to do at home ? Just leave my car and connect cellular like 4G? Do i have unlock my car ? Please anyone know , leave comment

[@TheEVAddict]

Whatever you do, do NOT unlock your car while the car is updating. Keep it locked when not in use. If it is updating, the tail lights and headlights will turn on and the dash will light up. Do not interrupt until it is done - 30 minutes after completion.

[@MTNRanger]

@@sungjepark4866 You need either 4G or WiFi to get the download. If you have at least 2 of 4 bars you should be fine. The car has built in 4G. Leave the windows closed and the car locked to update.

[@jensphilippsen8344]

I cross my fingers