Fisker Ocean vs Kia EV6: Two Incredibly Competitive EVs!

[@way3399]

There is no comparison, different class at different art level. Fisker ocean is a piece of art.

[@mapletree4283]

So you want buy a piece of art over a good EV with quality performance and technology.... lol

[@mosesque8784]

@@mapletree4283 We are hoping that Ocean will also provide all of the above.

[@geeman4801]

I have reserved 2 Fisker extremes … well worth the wait

[@jesfr]

I will choose Fisker Ocean any time

[@cindygaul7719]

Love the Fisker Ocean!

[@jeffreyfirestone8241]

Both of these are currently my #1/#2 choices, Fisker Ocean Ultra & Kia EV6 Wind AWD. Fisker has better range and off-road capably & more ground clearance. Both look great but different. Interior, not including the dash great on both. Kia dash is very attractive, and I personnally like some mechanical controls and screens blended into the daah. I hate the Tesla like minimalist dash abd screen that sticks up high and looks like an afterthought. Conclusion, Fisker has better specs but Kia has a nicer dash which is what we see every moment we are inside the car, so Kia for me.

[@scubafrost2007]

Me and my wife are doing both. We have the EV6 First Edition and could not be more impressed. Can not wait for the fosker ocean extreme

[@henrikprebennielsen4612]

Jeg er nok til Fisker ocean ultra hvis det er med træk krog og solskin tag solselle tag

[@mikeadams9302]

Can you compare the Ocean to the Subaru/ Toyota SUEV?

[@dcbel]

Having over 500 miles of EPA range on a single charge is amazing! Cannot wait for the Fisker Ocean to come out. 🚗⚡️

[@goodlifetoday]

The Fisker Ocean is being made by Magna in Austria. Magna has been making vehicles for Toyota, Jaguar, Range Rover, and BMW for several years. There's no better looking mid-sized EV or SUV on the market that starts at $37,499 ($29,999 after tax rebates) Deliveries begin THIS YEAR Q4. They have over 26k reservations so far.

[@mosesque8784]

All depends on what tech is offered at those price levels. Car looks great but doesnt have real world numbers to prove the claims yet. Also, I believe heated seats and adaptive cruise is optional even in the mid tier ocean.

[@adstix]

It would be helpful to get ground clearance comparisons especially for SUVs. Keep up the good work 👍

[@THEDRIVERDOWNLOAD]

EV6 is 6.1” ground clearance. Fisker hasn’t revealed any information for Ocean… 🙏

[@adstix]

@@THEDRIVERDOWNLOAD thanks for your swift reply. What about the expected BZ4X vs VW ID please?

[@THEDRIVERDOWNLOAD]

Here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4uWg4BqZ76fl8U

[@ceeceeguidry837]

I want the Fisker Ultra. Where do I order?

[@ceeceeguidry837]

How does the Fisker compare to the BMW I1 and i4?

[@2cartalkers]

What is the range on the Fisker FWD, Standard battery? Why doesn't Fisker offer a FWD with an Extended battery?

[@mosesque8784]

I believe it has to do with cost cutting and drivetrain. The platform is not developed by Fisker. They are adapting Magna's platform and my guess is magna doesnt have one where you can put more batteries and one less motor.

[@scubafrost2007]

I have the EV6 First Edition now which is an absolute blast of a vehicle. Will be replacing my Grand Cherokee with the Fisker ocean extreme.

[@rogerbaumann7097]

Great comparison - yes, the Fisker Ocean looks to be a really great vehicle. It is very much to be hoped that an AR head-up display will also be offered... Currently I see my personal favorites as ZEEKR, Nio, Genesis and Fisker. I'm really looking forward to further news and especially the market launch of the corresponding vehicles in Europe.

[@markgeezey1809]

You forget to mention that Kia offer 7yr/100,000mls warranty? Does Fisker offer this? Plus in Europe the GT is only about 6,000USD more expensive than a top spec GT line. So not as expensive as you might think. Both cars look great and I am sure the Fisker will be a success in certain parts of the world?However comparing Fisker to Kia/Hyundai group in research and development budgets and as an established car maker and especially EV’s is currently quite far apart in my opinion. Its great that these bespoke brands like Fisker are about, but when spending your own cash, sometimes heart and head may say different things.

[@paulcooper8818]

Yep, the Fisker Ocean isn't actually a choice until you can drive it home. Their price points seem too good to be true, plus there will probably be limited service centers for the foreseeable future. I hope they succeed but my money would be on KIA

[@mosesque8784]

@@paulcooper8818 Fisker has contracted with Cox automotive and Bridgestone for servicing. If you lease the car, it will be warrantied under Fisker till the lease ends.

[@mosesque8784]

Simply put, I would lease the Ocean vs buying a Kia. Love the look of the Kia but if the specs on the Ocean are true, it will be an amazing car. One disappointment I have with Ocean is @ 50k most standard equipment such as heated seats and adaptive cruise is optional.

[@mybro727]

Mark, 7 year warranties aren’t much of a selling point for Americans who daily premium vehicles and are prone to lease. Hyundai/KIA is *not* established in the EV space, and this comparison was not a good look for them since they _are_ the more established automaker as far as this comparison goes. Fisker is simply offering a better EV experience with the Ocean and you’re getting more car for your money. Being a “established” ICE competitor doesn’t necessarily mean you’re ahead in technology, research or in the development of your first fully electric ⚡️ & battery 🔋 powered products. That’s a common misconception too. Lastly, as “established” as Hyundai Motors Group may be, it’s not like they have much of a identity of their own to fight with. In fact, HMG offers Americans little-to-zero originality in both ICE _and_ EV markets. For example; these seats look like something out of a Ford Mach-E, the curved glass displays are poached from Cadillac but not executed nearly as well, and the exterior styling of the EV6 looks like a cheap watered down version of the DBX from Aston Martin. It’s no different than their watered down remakes of the Bentley design language seen on their Genesis portfolio. This company has very little originality and _that’s_ ultimately what sets your product apart in such crowded segments whether ICE or EV. Although they may not be as “established”, brands like Fisker - much like Rivian, Lucid, etc. are the polar opposites of HMG identity crisis. The Ocean literally *shines* and sparkles in this regard and that’s why folks will be drawn to it. The specs, proportions and overall price/value are the icings on the cake slice over the KIA EV6.

[@markgeezey1809]

@@mybro727 interesting point of view. But as a Brit/European I can comment on the fact that the EV6 has not only won the german 2022 premium car of year, but many other awards from established organisations here in Europe. Most Europeans haven’t even heard of Fisker. Albeit I have and love their original EV. So I think in this case we have to agree to disagree on this basis. And to be called a watered down Aston Martin DBX, well I can think of worse things. Kia/Hyundai are very established in the EV market and as brands very well established this side of the pond. I personally have been fortunate to own and drive some fantastic vehicles and in my opinion I was very impressed by what Kia especially have done with the EV6. If you haven’t already I would maybe suggest you take an AWD GT line for a test drive, actually I think you would be more surprised than you might think on how Kia have come on leaps and bounds with this vehicle. But each to their own and that is why we all love cars. I hope you enjoy your day.

[@Kirkaiya]

I put a deposit down on the Ocean, I think the Ultra trim is the best mix of price/value. Hopefully production on that trim starts by early 2023

[@Reddylion]

FISKER OCEAN IS BETTER, HOPE QUALITY MATERIALS, DRIVING DYNAMICS, SAFETY, ETC ETC TOO. my choice Fisker Ocean Ultra

[@harold1901]

Fisker Ocean Sport range 250 miles.

[@Reddylion]

but unfortunately November 22 is far unlike kias now.

[@luqstar]

And that’s assuming they can meet production demand…

[@Reddylion]

@@luqstar ya..

[@adam-he4rf]

Fisker ocean is the same length as a wrangler 4 door unlimited but wider and about 10 inches lower. It also has similar front leg room and more rear.

[@northstar43]

Love your videos! Keep up the great work. I have a Mach E on order; the Fisker interior with the driver dash + big screen reminds me the most of that, honestly. The EV6 is probably #2 on my list behind the Mach E. Even though it charges more slowly, I just like the styling of the Mach E more, so that’s my personal preference. I think you have a great eye for these comparisons and do a great job laying out the facts to let your viewers compare. When you’re ready, I think you could also add your own opinions to the end of these videos, I’d be interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks again!

[@THEDRIVERDOWNLOAD]

🙏

[@mapletree4283]

Fisker can say whatever it wants on paper until a production one comes out at the price that they claim.

[@TheIraniandream]

I see BMW design when I see the Fisker..

[@liontone]

Fisker is in a different class visually.

[@andreaconsitt2677]

Fisker

[@liontone]

Peak charge is 250kwh for Ocean

[@alfonsosaballett6676]

I like the Ocean Fisker also not only for it looks but also for the tech and that it is front wheel drive if you get the Sport trim, which I have put a deposit. When I looked to buy the EV6 all the dealer had jacked up the price from the MSRP. So far Fisker has not changed their pricing, hopefully they will honor their price for those that already have given a deposit.

[@saedalbittar1841]

I think Fisker will be so successful , it looks sleek , nice and affordable . I am investing in Fisker shares

[@williammann9816]

You should check out the Fisker Ocean if you can wait 1.5 to 2 years for an EV. I ordered two Fiskers. Get in on ground floor with federal tax credit of $7500 since reservations in tens of thousands and not hundred of thousands. If you pay at least $7500 in federal taxes on year you purchase an EV and the company has not sold 200,000 total of that model then you can subtract $7500 from your federal taxes that year. Tesla’s model 3 and model Y no longer qualify. The Volkswagen ID4, Mustang Mach e still qualify (still less than 200000 vehicles of each of the EVs as of Feb 2022). However over the next after another 1.5 years they probably will no qualify. The down payment for a Fisker is $250 and this money is put into a secured account so Fisker Inc. cannot just take your money if they do not follow through with making the vehicle. You can make a second reservation for $100 as well. The second reservation for purchasing a second Fisker ($100) is fully refundable if you cancel but the first reservation ($250) is partially reimbursed if you cancel the reservation minus 10% (-$25). This is much better than when Tesla would keep your full $100 reservation fee if you cancelled. Those that do order and purchase/lease a second Fisker is not likely to get the second vehicle for at least 9 to 12 months after first vehicle purchased or leased. I plan to sell second Fisker purchase for a profit of this vehicle is actually made. The California Mode in the rope Fisker models except the cheaper Sport trim is unique (all windows/sunroof can be opened) will appeal to younger beach/outdoorsy types and is sort of a gimmick but so is the new Ford Bronco style. There seems to be a great deal of doubt this company will get off the ground and produce any significant number of EVs. I have an ID4 but the Fisk Ocean looks better and will perform even better from what I have read. I am sold on EVs regardless of push to transition to electric vehicles to help the environment. I never will buy a gas vehicle again. I was charging my car at a fast charger and spoke to another person who was a CPA who had an ID4. He said the same with no plans to buy another gas vehicle again. EVs are likely much more reliable since only 20 moving parts in an electric motor compared to at least 200 moving parts in a gas engine. Therefore less parts to wear out. No starter, fan clutch, fuel pump, water pump, alternator, timing belt, other belts running compressor, etc need to be replaced. No oil changes or coolant hose leaks. There is coolant for the batteries but hoses not subjected to heat of a gas engine. No exhaust fumes while idling to keep car warm or cold. The heater and AC can be run very efficiently from battery alone instead of wasting heat energy from engine. You could camp in an EV and running AC or heater only decreases battery a fraction over 24 hours compared to gas burned in a gas vehicle. An EV with a heat pump is more efficient except in very cold climates and the Fisker will have a heat pump unlike the ID4 in the US. There is a lot of speculation about battery of EVs degrading and needing replaced after 5 to 10 years but I predict there will be privately owned shops that will do nothing but change out batteries for fraction of cost than the dealer’s cost once EVs out of warranty. You can already watch videos of DIY on KZbin to change out Prius hybrid batteries at a fraction of the cost. The battery of my Volkswagen ID4 is at the bottom of vehicle like most full EVs and could be accessed/dropped down with a car lift then some type of platform lift to lower the battery on. If I was a mechanic I would have a bay set up to change out EV batteries starting in another 3 to 5 years except for Teslas since they refuse to release any technical manuals for their cars and probably always will. Hopefully Fisker will do the opposite and market their vehicles’ battery to be serviceable by privately owned shops (have manuals available) after warranty expires. For consumers to feel like their at the mercy of the dealership when it comes to EVs is a major discouraging factor for those considering buying an EV. Smoother ride, minimal noise from electric motor and respectable acceleration are all characteristics of any EV over $35000. You charge an EV vehicle overnight with 30 to 40 miles per hour if you have a $500 type 2 charger installed at your home which requires a NEMA (240 volt) plug. You do not need a garage to put a type 2 charger since there are many chargers that can be mounted to wall outside home. With my Volkswagen ID4 it includes free fast charging at Electrify America chargers (I have one down street from my home) first 3 years. I recharge if every other day for nothing! I have only spent about $40 for my first 3000 miles. Three times I had to use Charge point charger due to not near a Electrify American charger while on a long road trip which is why I had to pay $40. If you are going to not install a type 2 charger at your home the cost of charging with fast charger in the community is MORE expensive than even gas. For example my Volkswagen ID4 get 2.8 miles/kWh and cost is 43 cents kWh at Electrify America charger in NC. This will cost you about $3.07 to go 20 miles in my ID4. These private company charging stations can alway increase price as gas prices go up and rip you off. If you fast charge at home with a type 2 charger the cost for 20 miles in NC is about 80 cents compared to a car that gets 20 miles a gallon of gas. Only recently has gas cost more than $3/gallon in NC. There is talk of Fisker also offering free charging through Electrify America possibly but no specifics. I find it unlikely Fisker to have all the features as promised for the lower trim versions costing $37499 (Sport Trim) and $49,999 (Ultra Trim). However until they are able to have some descent initial sales (? First 100,000 EVs) for the Fisker Ocean they may keep price what they promised. I read the Fisker Ocean will be built in Austria which seems like a major plus. If there is no increase in price for those trims then certainly better than Volkswagen ID4 models. They have a Fisker Referral program that gives you one point if you reserve a Fisker for $250 and put in a referral code (3VRWP8). This is my referral code. Second order cost just $100. You can only configure your first order at this time and can change it till Fisker will take final order. Current orders under 50000 and likely will get vehicle sometime in 2023 if the Fisker can fill 5000 orders per month which is their target in 2023. This number seems too optimistic. When u use someone else’s referral code u give them one point as well as getting one point as well. The referral code points get you the following free items (2 points gives you a Fisker hat and water bottle - unsure if one or both, 10 points gives you Fisker T-shirt, 20 points gives you Fisker sweatshirt.) Manufacturing of Fisker Ocean starting mid Nov 2022. As of 2/2022 I do not believe they have more than 40000 reservations. As of June 29, 2021 there were only 17,000 preorders which seems like a low number since taking preorders since Fisker started taking orders Nov 2019. However I just heard of this car and I have been looking at different EVs for 2 years so definitely they have not been advertising much. No dealer mark up like other EVs purchased from dealers like Ford, Volkswagen, etc. You purchase it like a Tesla and don’t have to sit down with salesman wearing penny loafers haggling. I do not believe you get any referral points unless you put down someone else’s referral code. Thank you. Referral code 3VRWP8

[@THEDRIVERDOWNLOAD]

Thank you for watching and sharing your comment. Just used your code to reserve my Fisker PEAR! Good luck!

[@williammann9816]

@@THEDRIVERDOWNLOAD Thank you.

[@jeffbrooker5183]

I would choose the Fisker Ocean.

[@QuickmixProductions]

Ocean

[@javiermarques4657]

It seems weight is the most kept secret those days.

[@yvancanadabaker]

My choice is Fisker no doubt at all, they will sale a lot next year!!!

[@Reddylion]

mine too.. fisker

[@harold1901]

I like the Fisker Ocean better.

[@BERNIEO4]

I'm going with KIA..

[@mosesque8784]

What made you go with the KIA?

[@Boeman767]

Maybe the 7yr guarantee?

[@nleaortiz]

I have Ocean reserved. Looks way better over EV6 in my personal opinion.

[@mosesque8784]

I think it looks "more" suv than the EV6, which I do like. I do want to see what comes standard in the Ocean Ultra.

[@AxelFinckh]

EV6. Fisker has never produced a car so far, and as the Tesla experience has shown us, - it takes a couple of years to get this right…!

[@mosesque8784]

Fisker did produce a car. In fact, it produced a car before tesla did, called Fisker Karma. They went bankrupt because of circumstances beyond their control. Getting things right the first time is hard for every manufacturer; that is why i never buy a first yr car. If I do get the Ocean it will be on a lease.

[@ruudkraan7072]

Fisker heeft geen dealers in Holland dus valt sowieso af. Kia is de echte EV.

[@MyUtubeScott]

Has any notable/reputable magazine reporter/ analyst driven / reviewed this SUV? I like the way it looks but it sounds too good and is listed too cheap

[@cgagin13]

EV6 is excellent.. While Fisker looks also great it is way too big for European cities.

[@mosesque8784]

I believe it is almost same dimensions as the EV6.

[@paardebekje9732]

Who wants to live in a city anyway

[@ruudkraan7072]

Waar moet ik heen met mijn Fisker?? Nee KIA IS DE BESTE. THE BEST ONE IS KIA.

[@ruudkraan7072]

Ocean looks Nice, but nothing for HOLLAND.

[@rcsc824sc8]

Who and why would you get a KiA instead of a fisker for this price range!?

[@autowiewiorka771]

EV6.

[@haraldschon252]

EV6

[@mybro727]

The EV6 is ugly in comparison and except for the charging speed capabilities, the specs were almost embarrassing for KIA here.

[@mosesque8784]

what specs? The range is 310 miles which is very close to the Ocean. The Kia has more tech standard on their cars than the fisker. I do like the look of the Ocean but I would not call EV6 ugly.

[@mybro727]

@@mosesque8784 The Ocean has 275 hp standard, compared to KIA’s 167 hp in the EV6, that ain’t even close. You also aren’t me, now are you? _I_ think the EV6’s exterior is actually hideous and again not exactly sure what KIA was thinking. I never claimed that you agreed. But you also probably think the Hyundai Sonota looks good, whose design is reminiscent of a catfish. I just think Hyundai/KIA’s styling has been for kids as of late. Very goofy and almost childish exteriors.

[@mosesque8784]

@@mybro727 Remember, all the specs on the Ocean is on "paper". Also, kind of silly to say kia/hyundia are ugly when fisker copied the kia soul design language.

[@mybro727]

@@mosesque8784 The specs are on paper only? That’s your best rebuttal? 108 hp difference in an electric car is even more noticeable _off_ paper, so it gets worse from here for the EV6, not better. All of the Ocean’s specs made it to that “paper” by way of real world testing - granted under specific conditions but actual pre-production testing nevertheless. How do you think they come up w/ those numbers? Nothing silly about saying Hyundais and Kias are ugly - it’s called an opinion. Are you okay?

[@mosesque8784]

@@mybro727 They dont have a production or test car. All numbers are computer simulation. The first test cars are being built now for testing. Good to know you have been keeping up with Fisker. Also, you forget that EV6 will have a GT version coming out this year which will be faster than the fastest Ocean. Never said your opinion was wrong or right... I just said that Ocean design language is a based on Kia Soul.

[@mapletree4283]

Also, Kia is not selling the EV6 as an SUV. They actually classify it as a sedan. Please get your facts straight. There are a lot of factual inaccuracies in your videos.

[@mosesque8784]

EV6 is not a sedan and even on Kia's website it is classified as a SUV. You can call it a hatchback but in no way is it a sedan. Also, what else is not factual?

[@mapletree4283]

@@mosesque8784 even numbers are sedans under the Kia Hyundai naming code. Also, Kia EV6 was developed as Kia CV. C stands for semi medium size sedan and V stands for Kia EV. Do your research before you try to pass as an information channel.

[@justyongkim]

EV6.