Fisker's Bankruptcy Has Become a Nightmare for Owners

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@StephanieCline-em1mn
@StephanieCline-em1mn 6 ай бұрын
Why are the Fiskers not in jail for fraud. They knew they delivered an incomplete car and they trained staff to lie
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
It’s been bad
@Calicoolio13
@Calicoolio13 6 ай бұрын
not in jail thus far. I trust the folks at the SEC will soon come knocking.
@luismiguel4156
@luismiguel4156 5 ай бұрын
💯
@stemerri6020
@stemerri6020 5 ай бұрын
Look into the THINK! Electric Car, also built by these same people.
@derriktomorrow
@derriktomorrow 5 ай бұрын
Cause they are white and rich duhhh
@krafter324
@krafter324 6 ай бұрын
Love that Henrik wants his paycheck. He’s a piece of crap
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
The attorney asked many times how much he made, but the CRO kept saying he couldn’t recall. I seriously doubt this.
@Calicoolio13
@Calicoolio13 6 ай бұрын
despicable!!! it’s a family trait.
@goodlifetoday
@goodlifetoday 5 ай бұрын
Henrik will be back in a few years with another Spac saying things like “My suppliers failed me with the Ocean”. His legacy has been secured as a jackass in my book.
@ABa-os6wm
@ABa-os6wm 5 ай бұрын
They bought a Fisker. They got Karma... Sorry.,..
@z135210
@z135210 Ай бұрын
He’s been scamming for over a decade. It’s the buyers fault.
@BCNeil
@BCNeil 5 ай бұрын
Completely uninsurable too. Insurance companies know they can't be fixed. Even the most minor accident is a write-off.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
@@BCNeil indeed
@ShawnStafford-1978
@ShawnStafford-1978 5 ай бұрын
Hahaha! Glad my 1989 Trans-am GTA is a real vehicle.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
A cool car indeed
@ShawnStafford-1978
@ShawnStafford-1978 5 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 Thank you for liking old F‐Body vehicle's too.
@JosephPercia-sz8kh
@JosephPercia-sz8kh 6 ай бұрын
Been following you for a while Adam since I ordered my Ocean One on 12/2019. Took delivery on 10/2023. No loans. Car is paid for full price. I agree with many followers. You’ve done a phenomenal job covering this crook. I’m sick. I feel I need to bailout now. Take a big loss for my safety.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Your future self would thank you. And I thank you for your long term viewership.
@K9Trixx
@K9Trixx 5 ай бұрын
Whats your trim and color?
@derriktomorrow
@derriktomorrow 5 ай бұрын
I’ll give you 3000 for it
@BillSpohn
@BillSpohn 6 ай бұрын
One of your best videos yet! I really like the clever incorporation of actual audio from the hearing with your commentary. You brought the “characters” to life.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support Bill! Much appreciated!
@renasworld8671
@renasworld8671 6 ай бұрын
It's amazing that people would fall for Henry Fisker's shenanigans twice. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
The 6th emoji said it all
@renasworld8671
@renasworld8671 6 ай бұрын
@Aslash304 I was trying to match emojis to the number of videos it took to explain the fall of Fisker...
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 ай бұрын
@renasworld8671 I don't think this is the end of Fisker's shenanigans. I have a feeling they will be back again, that is the nature of Venture Capital these days, they will invest in anything, because they get paid at both ends.
@tfpnation6925
@tfpnation6925 6 ай бұрын
@@renasworld8671 That’s freaking weird, you seriously memorize that there are exactly 6 videos, weirdo
@jeffsousa399
@jeffsousa399 6 ай бұрын
Henrik should use his house for collateral, to make payroll, if he believes in the dream so much!.. he’s personally not invested in the outcome, because he’s already milked out what he needed too….😂😮
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
No argument here for me
@richardkirkpa
@richardkirkpa 6 ай бұрын
Adam, thank you for continuing to tell the tale. I have really appreciated your insight.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I thank you sincerely for the kind words. This one was a real undertaking.
@Littlebittyrose
@Littlebittyrose 6 ай бұрын
All I can keep saying is thank goodness we cancel our order last year! We did lose our deposit but compared to what we would be dealing with now IF we did get the Ocean is 100% headaches and $$$$! Wish we never put a deposit but it is what it is at this point! Thank you again Adam!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I’m glad you made the smart (but difficult) choice. Thanks for watching!
@emikomina
@emikomina 5 ай бұрын
get a Honda Prologue instead
@kidd32888
@kidd32888 5 ай бұрын
Good choice to not throw good money after bad
@turdeaugottago114
@turdeaugottago114 5 ай бұрын
you wised up just in time
@kyliefan7
@kyliefan7 6 ай бұрын
This train wreck keeps getting worse. So glad you got out of it and got your new Honda!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I can’t explain how much better I feel not to be directly involved
@MelHaynesJr
@MelHaynesJr 6 ай бұрын
stuck with this vehicle and its making me sick daily just the shit position Im in. I was driving around and taking trips on it, but now I don't even want to do that for fear of the pumps...fucking hell
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I can feel your pain through the screen. I felt like a black cloud was hovering over me when I owned the car.
@renasworld8671
@renasworld8671 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@StephanieCline-em1mn
@StephanieCline-em1mn 6 ай бұрын
I'm so upside down ...taking a second out on my mortgage because I need to buy another vehicle. There should be something for us consumers
@JoeWayne84
@JoeWayne84 5 ай бұрын
Why would someone who wanted an electric car not just get the Tesla option?? It amazes me that anyone would choose a startup for a 60k vehicle … let the people who losing money means nothing to them be the Guinea pigs haha. Now would be a good time to go buy a cheap one if you want one haha
@tlderose
@tlderose 6 ай бұрын
Whew! So glad I was able to get out when I did. Thanks for an interesting video and agree, the audio from "those parties" attending was well...enlightening. I feel bad for the owners who are stuck. Great job presenting as always Adam!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I’m also very glad you were able to get out. Those that are stuck are the reason I keep making videos. I really want them to have as much info as possible.
@Harvard7red17
@Harvard7red17 6 ай бұрын
Adam should be a damn lawyer! Thank you for keeping all owners up to date!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
@memyselfundeye
@memyselfundeye 6 ай бұрын
Solid analysis. Doesn’t keep me from enjoying the shit out my FOO with the roof open as i cruise on the Washington Peninsula or around Seattle, but there is always this little terrified voice inside telling me to watch out for stones hitting the windshield or some H2O pump seizing up. 10,500 99%error-free miles so far and hope for 100k more.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
It’s all fun and games til the turtle crawls out. Thanks for watching
@sweatdrops5071
@sweatdrops5071 6 ай бұрын
That payroll expense is wild. If they laid off half of those people and were granted access to the remaining cash collateral, they could push out the approval of the sale by a few weeks
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 ай бұрын
@sweatdrops5071 Pushing out the approval does very little for anyone. The truth of the matter is that the Bankruptcy makes all Oceans virtually worthless in terms of a vehicle. The parts will have some value, but that is about it. What many may not understand is that there isn't a way to fix this and at some point the vehicles could be considered not road worthy, by NTSHA. I have a theory that selling the vehicles software and etc, making it open source to American lease, would allow American Lease to develop the software which in turn could be license and/or sold to current Fisker Ocean owners. In other words American Lease would be another Car company in a way. Maybe the Judge could write a provision that cloud services, software and etc become available to previous owners. American lease would probably object and are there other companies that would want to be buyers of a vehicle they know has a fatal flaw. If American Lease walks away, where would that leave everyone?
@sweatdrops5071
@sweatdrops5071 6 ай бұрын
@@tonespeaks Having an additional week or two of flexibility allows for the unsecured creditors committee and the trustee to review the transaction. An accelerated closing of the sale is actually entirely in favor of American Lease and Fisker, and to the detriment of consumers and the unsecured creditors committee, given some of the egregious terms in the sale agreement.
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 ай бұрын
@sweatdrops5071 Don't get me wrong, I know this isn't a great deal!! In fact, I think there is something nefarious about it. On the other hand, the Court is in a tough position since there are no other suitors and the demand for cash is immediate. In bankruptcy it is usually a buyers market, they generally get the best of the bargain, because of the huge cash demands. Remember we are talking about payroll and severance, this is about people being able to put food on the table. It may be true that everyone is getting screwed but it isn't the employees fault and they are protected by law.
@sweatdrops5071
@sweatdrops5071 6 ай бұрын
@@tonespeaks The employees need to get paid, of course, but the debtors shouldn't be able to use that as continuous leverage to expedite due process.
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 ай бұрын
@@sweatdrops5071 I hear you, but that is how bankruptcy works. The secured debtors have all the leverage and the courts can't really do much in this area. Fisker says it needs to sell these vehicles to make payroll, what is the judge to do??? If there are other offers, this is a different conversation, but what are the options?? There is no question this isn't a good deal, especially since the batteries are probably worth more. Then again, without any other offers....the Court's hands will be tied. Not to mention and extra week or so of legal fees and those cost off the top.... people need to understand that legal fees come before anything else... that is just the way the system works.
@reviewaccount8377
@reviewaccount8377 6 ай бұрын
Sad my car has been down since March because of the water pump issue. I can’t get the 2024 part even thigh Fisker has them.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I am so sorry to hear this.
@DeadManWalking4574
@DeadManWalking4574 6 ай бұрын
Im happy to hear this! You deserve punishment for buying crap from a fraudster!
@reviewaccount8377
@reviewaccount8377 6 ай бұрын
@@DeadManWalking4574 wow you’re a true gem
@DeadManWalking4574
@DeadManWalking4574 6 ай бұрын
@@reviewaccount8377 yes, thank you.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
@@DeadManWalking4574that’s just mean.
@daves1646
@daves1646 6 ай бұрын
Convenient that the sale agreement excludes all obligations to make, even partial payments to debtors, or any supports for owners. The Bankruptcy court will fail its role if this does not become a key part of the agreement. Fisker will be able to use the funds how IT sees fit, with little IMMEDIATE oversight.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Definitely a concern
@Sourpusscandy
@Sourpusscandy 5 ай бұрын
Keeping the creatures at the top well fed.
@paharding
@paharding 6 ай бұрын
Kudos to you Adam for your professionalism and perseverance. Through all of this epic slow motion Titanic like sinking of Fisker, you have always been objective and the voice of reason. This is unlike the other Fisker fanboys and fangirls that pedaled hopium thus deceiving their subscribers. Hopefully Fraudsters Henrik and Geeta will go to prison.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Someone needs to be in trouble for this one.
@tellucas
@tellucas 6 ай бұрын
Looks like they are still hoping to cash checks as that company circles the drain.
@stew6662
@stew6662 5 ай бұрын
I was watching the John DeLorean story and it reminds me of Fisker. Both were great designers who didn’t understand about production and scaling up. DeLorean had some great features in the prototype, but had to take a lot of them out for production. Both companies were under funded for what was needed.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@Turbomgzt
@Turbomgzt 6 ай бұрын
Spot on as usual Adam. Great research and facts 👏 👌
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for watching and for your insights and feedback!
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 5 ай бұрын
How much did we pay in subsidies for these EVs?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
They are made in Austria. So the company probably didn’t get much. Some of the owners got a tax credit that put money down a year before they took delivery.
@bobbritches846
@bobbritches846 5 ай бұрын
​@@Aslash304they were supposed to be made in the USA. That's what was sold to us and they got a lot of our $.
@DaveDarin
@DaveDarin 6 ай бұрын
So, the profit for American Leasing is EXTREME. They will have Taxis, Uber, and Lyfy opportunities to make money on the Oceans that they are buying for peanuts. They have exclusive ownership of the software and diagnostics, and they have used Oceans they paid almost no money for that will run as well as the new unsold ones, AND they have Oceans that are damaged that they are paying $2500 for parts. The ONLY limitation American leasing has is that they can not sell any of the Oceans they are buying for 1 year. So, after one year they can sell the Ocean but you can be damn sure that they will be as greedy as every corporation and will not be selling then for what they paid for them. WOW!!!!! And the private Ocean Owner will be either locked out of parts, or parts at HUGE cost, no access to service as 3rd party locations will be lock out of servicing the Oceans, no diagnostic tools and of course not warranty, stuck at 2.1 IF Ocean owners can even get 2.1. And all recalls go to American leasing ONLY!!! Very nice!!!! The greed continues.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@Sourpusscandy
@Sourpusscandy 5 ай бұрын
Lemons
@Fabian-ew7ly
@Fabian-ew7ly 5 ай бұрын
People with money only help other people with money
@EM.1.
@EM.1. 6 ай бұрын
Sadly, a taxi company has priority over value consumers who pay MSRP. Next time I see a new Fisker company I will make sure to stay the F away. He weaseled his way out of his second mess.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
It does appear he has.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
@WhizoRizgoogle “Fisker Karma bankruptcy.”
@jamessimmons8252
@jamessimmons8252 5 ай бұрын
What the hell is a Fisker??? Is this a US car??? I thought you were talking about the scissors at first. I use 'em to trim weed. But they are spelled "FISKAR"
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Surprisingly, the company that spells its name differently is indeed a different company
@theslimshadyist
@theslimshadyist 6 ай бұрын
As a FOE owner, this really sucks.
@ultrasound4212
@ultrasound4212 6 ай бұрын
Real quick. Is 20k for a fisker a good price ? Or no. Even if i can lowball a dealer for 15k ?
@theslimshadyist
@theslimshadyist 6 ай бұрын
Yes, $20K is a smoking deal. I see where they are selling on the open market from individual owners for $25K-$30K.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
20k is a great deal. Get out
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry for owners
@theslimshadyist
@theslimshadyist 6 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 I just listed on eBay and Autotrader. Time to take advantage of the “stop sale” and the remaining fleet being sold. This MAY drive temporary demand for those who are hell bent on acquiring one. I’m guessing I’ll have about a 2 week window to get out while market value is stable. Fingers crossed!
@GTI_CHHA
@GTI_CHHA 6 ай бұрын
Full disclosure and spoiler alert: I don't own a Fisker Ocean. This story is completely hilarious and beyond belief... The question burning in my head is, is what Fisker is pulling off here, even remotely legal? The judge should really sort this billion dollar mess out.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
If it wasn’t before, and it all goes through, then it will be going forward.
@Derpy1969
@Derpy1969 6 ай бұрын
Faulty circuit boards can be repaired if the repairer is really good at what he does. Also, the failure of the PCB itself could be mitigated by extraordinary measures (better sealing, controlling temperature better etc.). We don’t know what the actual problem is. Is it software or hardware? Is it mechanical or thermal? There’s still little hope for owners.
@wizzyno1566
@wizzyno1566 6 ай бұрын
No. There isnt.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
This is an optimistic take. The distance between “can” and reality can be very long. Little hope indeed.
@michaelkim3432
@michaelkim3432 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Henrik (and I presume Geeta) is still on the payroll??? The people who cratered this company through their own greed are still pulling money out...brilliant! Thanks for the update Adam!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Both on the payroll. Still cashing in. Thanks for watching!
@StephanieCline-em1mn
@StephanieCline-em1mn 6 ай бұрын
​@@Aslash304they should be in jail. Seriously. They hustled a vehicle to me and knew it was defective .
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 ай бұрын
@@StephanieCline-em1mn All cars are defective to a certain degree, that is the nature of Automotive. Making a vehicle is a complex equation.
@thraxman
@thraxman 5 ай бұрын
So no more instagram ads? Lol I totally didn’t see this coming,… it’s like an Americanized version of what so many pop up over night Chinese electric brands did. Hilarious.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@thom1218
@thom1218 5 ай бұрын
No wonder "Fisker" sounds like some kind of rectal exam. Can't believe any of the buyers couldn't see this coming on some level. I mean the cabin touch display plays some cartoon-level video of the CEO gaslighting you about the grandeur of his product. The whole thing was just some EV me-too play by another random one-percenter playboy that's got Elon derangement syndrome.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the insight
@Calicoolio13
@Calicoolio13 6 ай бұрын
Love your work, Adam. Keep in mind that in addition to payroll, and zero mention, Fisker owes all terminated staff the agreed upon severance. Meanwhile they’ve kept the inept management team that got them there in the first place to include someone in Michigan who has not once stepped in the la Palma location. As for repairing the pumps, dream on!!! No master techs or techs still employed. more lies!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate this feedback. Thanks for watching
@Calicoolio13
@Calicoolio13 5 ай бұрын
Yep, the Fisker Follies continue, NO severance payments were made on the agreed-upon date 7/17/24 . Still sticking it to former employees.
@jtb3797
@jtb3797 5 ай бұрын
I live in WA and almost every week ill see another brand new fisker with dealer plates.... People are so ignorant
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Could be old Fisker’s too. There were months when nobody got registered. Fisker wouldn’t send people the titles.
@phill6885
@phill6885 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Adam, that was a lot of work and we appreciate it.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate you taking the time to watch
@computersales
@computersales 5 ай бұрын
I feel like if a company files bankruptcy they should be forced to make all their intellectual property public domain.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Cool idea. Not beneficial for those the company owes money to.
@Art_of_Ramon
@Art_of_Ramon 5 ай бұрын
It should be made open source in the bankruptcy proceedings so the market can provide solutions.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
A possibility, but not a likely one
@jimspc07
@jimspc07 5 ай бұрын
I would imagine that someone who can pay $70k for one of these vehicles will not be without funds to take legal proceedings against both the seller and buyer. Also if they all get together the money available would be quite large and the legality of the sale and the terms of that sale that appear to specifically exclude and disadvantage earlier buyers may be found wanting. Also the relationship between the seller and the buyer needs looking at.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. The case has made many strides since this video. Much more on the channel. Thanks for watching
@g3johnston
@g3johnston 6 ай бұрын
When these cars go to a fleet, I think it’s reasonable to assume they will be involved in a number of minor accidents. Therefore the statistics insurance companies rely on to gauge risk will mean show the Ocean as highly likely to be involved in accidents. Then even higher premiums will come shortly after. Am I wrong?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
We have to see what American Lease does to help owners
@StephanieCline-em1mn
@StephanieCline-em1mn 6 ай бұрын
My premium doubled recently and I haven't received a ticket
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 ай бұрын
@g3johnston Most insurance companies would not cover an Ocean for comprehensive coverage, only liability. In other words, they would cover the damage that is done for an at fault accident, but Ocean's owner would get nothing from their damage. Now if someone damaged an Ocean, the damage can't exceed the value of the vehicle, so it would be limited to about $10,000-16,000 in my estimation. So if there was a fender bender the insurance company could estimate what it would cost for a comparable vehicle, not exceeding $10,000-$16,000.
@markp257
@markp257 6 ай бұрын
Another very informative video Adam. Thank you and keep them coming!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JCJW101
@JCJW101 6 ай бұрын
The FOA should insist that the source code and all tools (hardware and software) to update Oceans are made available to FOA for access by all owners. All Ocean owners could then in theory club together and contract a software developer or team to at least fix bugs. That should be the minimum offered to them.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. And In a perfect world…
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 ай бұрын
@JCJW101 If they did that, it would reduce the value of the deal and Bankruptcy court is about retaining as much value/money as possible. Not sure current owners have priority in terms of recovery.
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 ай бұрын
@@MakeSeven True, but it depends on the State, some states require companies to have a warranty reserve.
@jaymasterflash9396
@jaymasterflash9396 5 ай бұрын
How about now. Saw a fisker ocean car at my neighbors house. Since then I been seeing them drive and come back. Is there any news now about fixing and making sure parts are made for owners?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Step 1: wait. Step 2: wait. Step 3: 💰
@gonegolfn07
@gonegolfn07 6 ай бұрын
Henrik and Geeta should be in jail.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
No notes
@Calicoolio13
@Calicoolio13 6 ай бұрын
Their time will come.The SEC has not yet spoken.
@brad741
@brad741 6 ай бұрын
India are the biggest scammers. No surprise she brought that to the company
@ericgoldstein7220
@ericgoldstein7220 6 ай бұрын
Great job putting this video together - thanks!!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TonyGoff-Yu
@TonyGoff-Yu 6 ай бұрын
I got the popcorn out for this one 🍿
@TonyGoff-Yu
@TonyGoff-Yu 6 ай бұрын
Great video. You know despite all of this I'm still going to lease a Polestar this year, my only hope is that unlike Fisker they have a parent company who will look out for them. I hope this comment doesn't age badly but we shall see.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I’ll hedge your bet by saying that Polestar is a much safer bet. Thanks for watching!
@wizzyno1566
@wizzyno1566 6 ай бұрын
​@@TonyGoff-Yuleasing automatically hedges your bet.
@antster7
@antster7 5 ай бұрын
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Well said
@mototrvlr7006
@mototrvlr7006 5 ай бұрын
This is exactly why EVs suck and will fail. Software supported over the internet is a fail. Gamers learned this years ago when the vendor shutdown the cloud servers required to make the game you thought you owned work.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Please feel free to name any international business that doesn’t have cloud services.
@volvo09
@volvo09 5 ай бұрын
It's the way all modern stuff is going unfortunately. Modern gas cars have 20+ computer modules in them for everything from individual window motors, wiper motors, water pumps, seat control modules, transmissions, headlights, tail lights, with modules INSIDE them, etc.... every part is it's own networked module. When those parts are no longer available the car is junk. The electronics and software limit the life of ALL modern electronics, from washing machines to cars, to furnaces, phones, and on and on. The higher end and the newer your car is, the more computers it has in it. Some have near or over 50, even american cars. The euro cars have more.
@jaysdood
@jaysdood 6 ай бұрын
Who'd have thought buying a vehicle from a startup that could disappear is a dumb Idea?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
The nail has been hit.
@gargoyle7863
@gargoyle7863 5 ай бұрын
Wasn't there a insurance for after insolvency customer support?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
I’ll cover this in an upcoming video
@hlee2546
@hlee2546 6 ай бұрын
Hi Adam , when you said resale value, who want to buy & why . I am so scare to find out. What about trade in possible?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Trade ins are possible, but difficult at this point. Resale is low.
@mikejones4830
@mikejones4830 5 ай бұрын
Well if anyone knows the Bankruptcy rules all this is a formality. Because in Chapter 11 the plan is already approved soon as you file. Unless theres an adversary hearing objecting to the organization.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Great feedback
@peterdevreter
@peterdevreter 5 ай бұрын
Glad I have a model 3. And a V8 bmw for fun 🎉 But this sucks for Fisker owners. No support, no fixes for the recalls. These car will end up on the junkyard within 4 years because of lack of support.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Yes, or American Lease will buy them up, and they will only be NYC Ubers.
@The_Diesel733
@The_Diesel733 6 ай бұрын
Feel sorry for people who have this and kept it based on Pride and not logic.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
They are certainly out there.
@luvr381
@luvr381 5 ай бұрын
Damn, wish I'd gotten one of these ahead of time!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
No, you don’t.
@JosephBeltran-td5lu
@JosephBeltran-td5lu 6 ай бұрын
Watching these videos about how the Fisker ocean is a dead buy gets me excited to buying one
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
It’s your life.
@effingsix3825
@effingsix3825 6 ай бұрын
The creditors have a legal right to seize any assets on default, but can’t in Chap. 11. So Fisker concluded a deal having a chap. 11 filing accepted by the court. That means the company raised money they would otherwise not have been able to conclude a transaction for the vehicles. My guess would be they are not winding up the company just yet, as having their chap. 11 thrown out would result in liquidation, which is what the creditors would prefer. Instead, inventory was sold and a deal concluded under chap 11. American Leasing got the warranty issues sorted as part of the bargain. Warranty holders as a group can now hire counsel and petition they they too must have their warranty issues rectified in the same way. But that’s not going to happen. Looks like creditors are going to take a serious haircut if they can’t claw back any of the funds generated by the sale of surplus Oceans. I guess the trustee would be quite pissed as it’s their job to oversee any and all transactions. But the transaction could be considered acting reasonably under the circumstances, so no breach of the law. In order for Fisker to exit bankruptcy, they have to eventually touch base with warranty holders. That part isn’t over just yet unless they specifically declare warranty holders claims void. I guess the hearing would be interesting as it all comes out then. Prepare that things could be delayed further, but in the meanwhile, you might need a cover for the Ocean garden furniture.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Good breakdown. Thanks for the feedback
@foxtrotwolf6081
@foxtrotwolf6081 6 ай бұрын
If you are a warranty holder, make sure you're listed as a creditor or else you won't be in consideration. Adam covered this a few episodes ago where all the owners of record were listed in the BK filing.
@effingsix3825
@effingsix3825 6 ай бұрын
Just the aspect that the company managed to raise funds in bankruptcy, and that they list warranty holders says to me they intend to emerge at some point. Though I’m sure that everyone has an example of a company that never emerged from bankruptcy and went into liquidation.
@EM.1.
@EM.1. 6 ай бұрын
@@effingsix3825 -To emerge from BK how would they repay their debt? And how would they reclaim trust in the public?
@effingsix3825
@effingsix3825 6 ай бұрын
@@EM.1. Your guess is as good as mine.
@xlerb2286
@xlerb2286 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what Fiskars (the scissors company) thinks of all this. Their names are so similar I imagine a lot of people may think they're the same company.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Scissors to cars is certainly a pivot.
@xlerb2286
@xlerb2286 5 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 So is rubber boots to cell phones, but it worked pretty good for a little company called Nokia ;)
@musk-eteer9898
@musk-eteer9898 5 ай бұрын
when you're buying a car for its look and that's all you got
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
@@musk-eteer9898 fair. Especially at this point
@CrisisActorJonsiri
@CrisisActorJonsiri 5 ай бұрын
Convert to Gas. No smog check since it's "electric".
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
All you need is $15,000 and 2000 hours of labor.
@SWright1978
@SWright1978 5 ай бұрын
“In other words, it’s a huge sh*t sandwich, and we’re all gonna have to take a bite.” Lt. Lockhart, Full Metal Jacket (1987)
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
lol. Correct
@Flightcontrol96
@Flightcontrol96 5 ай бұрын
Fisker going bankrupt has big 2013 energy.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Indeed
@HoneywoodDrive
@HoneywoodDrive 6 ай бұрын
Do you think there would be a company out there that will buy out the titles to the Fisker software etc once it’s completely done for?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
If they liquidate, absolutely.
@wizzyno1566
@wizzyno1566 6 ай бұрын
Who would want it? It's both vehicle specific and shit.
@tomasobamela
@tomasobamela 6 ай бұрын
Man, am I glad I never bought the Ocean
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
A good idea
@nycplayboy78
@nycplayboy78 6 ай бұрын
Adam BRUHHH I love it thank you for another great video :)
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Happy to bring the BRUH where it is needed. Thanks for watching. Long live the BRUH!
@sparty94
@sparty94 5 ай бұрын
what a horrible situation for current owners. besides crying, i don't know what i would do.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
The red flags were there
@ignskeletons
@ignskeletons 5 ай бұрын
I bought shares for a fraction of a penny each as it was going downhill and I still overpaid.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Yes.
@meisamsalahi2188
@meisamsalahi2188 6 ай бұрын
That means vehicles in Canada will not be fixed at all ?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Nobody is getting fixed, unless the court rejects this sale and says it can’t go through unless the cars are fixed.
@DblOSmith
@DblOSmith 6 ай бұрын
I saw a Fisker Ocean on the highway. A shame. It's a very handsome vehicle. Fisker fiasco is exactly what EV nay-sayers say would happen.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Great point. I think it’s my least favorite thing about what’s played out
@renasworld8671
@renasworld8671 6 ай бұрын
Garbage...lmao
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 6 ай бұрын
What really blows my mind is that there has not been a class action lawsuit against Fisker yet. What kind of sheep are Fisker owners?
@StephanieCline-em1mn
@StephanieCline-em1mn 6 ай бұрын
There are
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I think there are at least a couple.
@ugaladigala
@ugaladigala 6 ай бұрын
why does fisker even have a $1mil a week payroll still lol is their ceo really that tarded? being unqualified is one thing but is the ceo maybe actually mentally challenged?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
He’s still getting a check. That’s all I know
@wizzyno1566
@wizzyno1566 6 ай бұрын
Mentally challenged yet still making bank. Perhaps the mentally challenged people are the ones who gave him money? 🤔
@chriscraft999
@chriscraft999 5 ай бұрын
And what are all those Fisker owners now thinking......I could of had a Toyota if I didn't have to be Mr. Cool on the Block!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
This is legitimate. I’d say Tesla over Toyota. Toyota is for people who have never thought about cars.
@DHW256
@DHW256 5 ай бұрын
This is a cautionary tale for all EV buyers in a government-leveraged market.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
What Government benefits did Fisker get?
@DHW256
@DHW256 5 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 For starters, look into the government's compliance credit scheme.
@jeffsousa399
@jeffsousa399 6 ай бұрын
What a Mess!!.. sad, but he needed a Billion dollars to do this right, and develop their own operating system, they assembly could still have been done by Magna, but at the end of the day, a Designer is not the same as an engineer….Classic Battle of the Departments, going back to the 60’s.. when Carrol Shelby learned the manufactures were going to use EGR valves, he said performance was dead.. he was right, the engineers won. He was out…..
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
He definitely didn’t have to money to do it right
@MysteriousTony
@MysteriousTony 6 ай бұрын
What Henrik Fisker should do now is invest money in creating a software engineering company to work on the vehicles.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I just hope owners get something
@aperitifs
@aperitifs 6 ай бұрын
They should allow the software to enter the open source community.. anyone can contribute to improve the car then.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
@@aperitifsor sabotage it
@SWright1978
@SWright1978 5 ай бұрын
Serious question: is the “Fisker” name worth anything at all after this fiasco?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
What did Kevin McAllister say? “I don’t think so.”
@jaymasterflash9396
@jaymasterflash9396 5 ай бұрын
So tempted. It actually looks good and the interior looks really nice. And dirt cheap. With the cherry on top of 400+ hp and 300+ range 😢
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Remember the thousands you’ll need to spend on insane insurance (if you can get it) and membership to the FOA. No membership, no navigation or LTE, or app. And the key thing too.
@jaymasterflash9396
@jaymasterflash9396 5 ай бұрын
@Aslash304 your right. I'll settle with a tesla. Ypu recommend the 2022 model s long range used or the new 2024.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
@@jaymasterflash9396I would always go with the longer warranty on the new one. But, a deal is a deal.
@jaymasterflash9396
@jaymasterflash9396 5 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 what if it only has like 20k miles. Could I eventually extend that warranty like pay extra?
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
@@jaymasterflash9396 I would never tell anyone to pass up a good deal. You’d have to ask the seller and Tesla about the extended warranty.
@juschln
@juschln 4 ай бұрын
Nice summary👍
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Altezza_AV
@Altezza_AV 5 ай бұрын
Is this company really going under because of a few million bucks? Nobody had some cash to bail them out? It seemed like they never even got the cars out there and then they went bankrupt… the fuck happened
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Subscribe to this channel. I covered the entire situation in chronological order.
@Driv3rWisard
@Driv3rWisard 3 ай бұрын
They should change the name to Bricklin so it sounds a bit more serious.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 3 ай бұрын
A solid suggestion
@joseph1monplaisir
@joseph1monplaisir 5 ай бұрын
Is this car worth 20k? I've seen on line
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
There’s no warranty. And many things that are easy fixes, or simple services could potentially cost a lot more, if there’s even a fix available. Insurance will be prohibitively expensive soon as the company is about to go out of business completely, and you’ll have to join a special group with potentially expensive dues, just to have a chance to use it normally. These are just the problems I can think of off the top of my head. Oh, and parts. There’s basically no guarantee for most parts. 1/10, do not recommend. This is a cool show car, a neat story, and a big problem waiting to happen for a daily driver vehicle.
@joseph1monplaisir
@joseph1monplaisir 5 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 thank you so much for clarifying that. I really fell for this car and it's designs after watching a few reviews but sadly I would have to step away from making that decision like you said. I don't have the money to throw away and there's no point in purchasing a vehicle that I will be able to drive at some point in the near future. 😮‍💨
@foxtrotwolf6081
@foxtrotwolf6081 6 ай бұрын
Fisker Owners Association needs to pool their owners' money and make a higher offer to get all the benefits and unsold cars so they can have spare parts and updates. If there are 4500 owners out there, it would only be $10k per owner to come up with a $45m offer for the fleet and royalty free IP. Maybe form an FOA LLC to manage the fleet and charge owners for services and distribute profits and losses to the owners.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate the feedback. $10,000 is a lot of money, and who pays to move them, and keep them where they are?
@foxtrotwolf6081
@foxtrotwolf6081 6 ай бұрын
Yep, if you love your ocean, ya gotta pay to play. On the flip side, a counter offer from American Leasing will increase the resale value for current owners by a few bucks.
@wizzyno1566
@wizzyno1566 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@foxtrotwolf6081yeah - 4500 people who mainly bought on credit are going to be able to magic "only" 10k each out of their arses. Grow up.
@foxtrotwolf6081
@foxtrotwolf6081 6 ай бұрын
@wizzyno1566 Just trying to help. People who spend money they don't have to buy something they can't afford to impress people they don't care about. Owning a business to put money in their pockets day and night is a worthy lifestyle change.
@wizzyno1566
@wizzyno1566 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@foxtrotwolf6081wishful thinking isn't helping. Silly ideas aren't helping. Punting good money after bad won't help. Its over. Drive the car or sell it, thats the choice. Suggesting spending $10k more EACH OWNER on a car that's worth 15-20k is ridiculous.
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 5 ай бұрын
Those who bought a vehicle from a new company that just started gets what they deserve to be honest. Just sayin’
@abc33944
@abc33944 4 ай бұрын
I said xactly that in 2020
@TrashwareArt
@TrashwareArt 5 ай бұрын
Take a guess where those printed boards where made
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Let me know if you know
@TrashwareArt
@TrashwareArt 5 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 im guessing its the same country my 3 bad water pumps for my taurus came from
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
@@TrashwareArtfair guess
@aperitifs
@aperitifs 6 ай бұрын
A ev should have multiple redundant cooling systems for the batteries..
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
A scam car will have multiple features that are missing, but only one key fob
@aperitifs
@aperitifs 6 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 when buying anything in bulk... I.e. A New EV company that had billions injected when floated on the stock market.. you would think 2 remotes per car would be childs play. Let alone a team of software developers pushing updates to the cars whenever a bug was fixed or feature was ready to push. (Fisker Inc bankruptcy details had Adobe owed millions.. ) It was like someone was handing out millions to whoever was at the devil's advocate's skyscraper function..
@cpuchala7
@cpuchala7 6 ай бұрын
I see the Oceans are going for $26K right now. What a risk to buy one of these.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Correct
@keithhere5868
@keithhere5868 6 ай бұрын
where are all the Fisker fanboy....:)
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Blowing in the wind 💨
@goodlifetoday
@goodlifetoday 5 ай бұрын
“Optimistically sarcastic”😂😂😂
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@khemchee4685
@khemchee4685 5 ай бұрын
Why would anyone buy an EV is beyond me. It’s like they have no common sense.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely air tight, evidence based argument. Where’s my participation trophy?
@Cincy32
@Cincy32 5 ай бұрын
Glad I got a Mercury Grand Marquis instead.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Another defunct brand. But still existing service
@cantonenlsdientes
@cantonenlsdientes 6 ай бұрын
"The Fisker Employee"..please, sold T-Shirts with that line, shame in "the employee of the month" comparting to this guy/lady.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@antonk1893
@antonk1893 2 ай бұрын
FISTER FISTER FISTER. lives up to the name FISTER
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 2 ай бұрын
A creative spin on the name
@brucerosner3547
@brucerosner3547 5 ай бұрын
Today's nightmare is tomorrow's collector item.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
@@brucerosner3547 those who can afford the inconvenience, insurance, storage, and owning additional vehicles will benefit in a coupe decades. A tale as old as time. Might as well be a GT3
@ChristSotos-fy4vw
@ChristSotos-fy4vw 4 ай бұрын
I would like to tell you all that were ripped off by Mr Fiskar especially 2 times to listen to the song Eye In The Sky (Alan Parsons Project) the words should be your new theme song, sorry to say good luck getting some satisfaction through our courts😢
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 4 ай бұрын
@@ChristSotos-fy4vw agree
@justintardif9527
@justintardif9527 3 ай бұрын
This why you never ever buy a first Gen product
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 3 ай бұрын
Well said
@secard4202
@secard4202 5 ай бұрын
"Does the toilet lease heat up"
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@dantebg100
@dantebg100 6 ай бұрын
"most sustainable SUV on Earth" what a joke. This car can't last even 5 years. The production of the battery alone is producing the same amount of CO2 as a gasoline car for 5 years. Not to mention the e-waste this car is.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
The whole thing was a scammy yucky thing.
@EfrainQuezada
@EfrainQuezada 5 ай бұрын
That's what i was scared of, why wouldnt the ocean be able to just operate like a dumb electric converted vw bug or something? Hopefully someone can figure out the software and just makes the car a dumb ev instead of this high tech brick piece of shit.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Very unlikely. But a cool thought
@z135210
@z135210 Ай бұрын
And the same will be true for Rivian soon.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 Ай бұрын
Sure. The $5.8 Billion that VW just agreed to give them in exchange for their technology is the end.
@z135210
@z135210 Ай бұрын
@@Aslash304Rivian has burned through 10's of billions of dollars. It's down to ~$4.0 billion at Q3'24 of liquid net assets. VW is essentially getting all the value of RIVN for half the cost via a joint venture - capping it's losses. Rivian on average burns through ~$1.1-1.2B in cash per quarter. VW isn't just giving Rivian billions of dollars - with nothing in return.
@coolpix222
@coolpix222 6 ай бұрын
The most sustainable car in the world!
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
Those were the days. A funny afterthought now.
@jeremyc.8903
@jeremyc.8903 6 ай бұрын
I'm mostly here for the "brah's". You can't make this stuff up.
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 6 ай бұрын
And the BRUH is here for you. They are at your service. Thanks for watching
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 5 ай бұрын
Nobody learnt from the first Fisker bankruptcy? 😂
@Aslash304
@Aslash304 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely unwaveringly astute.
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