Fitness Myths with Dr. Mike | Cheat Reps | JTSstrength.com

[@nathanpang7791]

Dr Mike is the best. I love the appeal to logic. He is like a super-buff Mr Spock.

[@OneStopMMO]

He's like spock on roids.

[@paulchristie3306]

Sounds like you wish he was your boyfriend.

[@dancerjack1814]

Oh, thank God someone with high quality credentials is countering "The Pros of Cheat Reps" videos popping up everywhere. Thank you for your channel.

[@theroyalbacon2294]

Appreciate the increased audio quality for his videos. The new mic setup with the smartphone really does provide a better audio quality.

[@churde]

saw mike...pressed play so hard my screen broke

[@bhabadipTWO-ONE]

churde haha your fingers will get strong

[@aaronh.4050]

great to see you back with a video, this guy is good

[@Stevofxx]

Your commentary on full range of motion makes so much sense.

[@Ravenx-77]

Love it great! Been preaching good technique for years with my clients and why FULL ROM is so important for muscular development.

[@shrimpanzee001]

Mike is one of the best people in the entire industry, and definitely is the most objective and level headed.

[@bobjenkins4925]

Yesssss, love these topics. Everything you guys produce is quality but I don't have much passion for weight lifting so it's awesome to get this topic

[@fetusness]

I love your videos Dr. Mike!!! I agree with everything you said, and just have 1 follow up question: what are your thoughts on cheating the concentric to get an overloaded eccentric, aka heavy negatives?

[@GoatMasterUK]

Really enjoy watching videos like this! Keep it up!

[@williamb4601]

As a bit of a counter point: many people with large deadlifts cheat on barbell row variation but cheat only to a specific limit. The intention on these cheat rows is not to build muscle but instead to build strength in the back and to some extend in the legs.

[@Moving2Korea]

Can you do one on the myth of "muscle confusion"? The real scientific basis for this is the law of accommodation, correct?

[@richardzapatero3209]

Straight up. No BS.

[@JuliusBrainz]

Where can I read about different series of fibers activated for different joint angles, as presented in (3:36)? I tried googling, but nothing on that pops out.

[@collinmurphy1903]

Dr Mike. At 7:26 you say full range of motion and get a peak contraction on the eccentric. Did you mean eccentric, or do you mean concentric? I was trying to follow your logic, and you spoke fast, I was trying to keep up. I think I just misunderstood you?

[@davekooper]

Been saying this for years to my friends, a little ooomph isnt gunna kill anyone. I never count an "oomph" rep in my rep count, but if I can hit 8 and I'm aiming for 10 or 12 and I've to throw a little kicker in there I'll do it, I'll still write down 8 but I got those extra reps.

[@williambrown7437]

I've heard you say stretch under load is an independent stimulus several times. Can you provide the research study that supports this?

[@matttaylor1449]

I think it's a topic that has only really come to light in the last year or so. You probably will start hearing more people saying it before any real studies start to back it up. The stretch under load principle is a real thing, just look at strongmen competitors. Massive traps but never do shrugs. It's the weighted stretch on their traps from all the farmers walks and carries. It's not like they are actively trying to build traps but they are in a weighted stretch in a lot of there events.

[@alespider9905]

look at this midgetdestiny nuthugger

[@CashmereMercenary]

Matt Taylor I agree and believe the same. The heavy hold gets my traps pumped and build fast without any actually direct work.

[@itayoved1996]

King Mike has spoken!

[@Jay-uo1sn]

Cheat reps are good as long as your form doesn't break

[@benjaminx7822]

Waiting for Alphadestiny response like

[@MaestroOfficial]

someone redirect this vid to him

[@emZee1994]

he already did in a comment on his latest video. basically he said what he says to do isn't what this video warns against. it's not the sams

[@jonastheviking3088]

Well, Alex is cheating on movements where you get a big stretch from it and he's also says that they are harder and fatigue the muscles more. So they don't say different things, they pretty much says the same thing with other words. Alex don't want shorter ROM or a bad form whilst cheating. So they're opinions on cheating is pretty much the same

[@CrniWuk]

It's simply a question of pros and cons. The cons autweight the pros in my opinion. If you're a VERY advanced lifter, you might do some cheat reps here and there, I mean we all know this, let us be honest. This last lift where we barely can keep the form, and we pull trough it, just to get the weight up. That's I think 'ok', if you do it within reason and if you actually know about the form. However, there are exercises where you should never ever do that, particularly those that can mess up with your spine, rotator cuffs etc. I personaly always try to maintain full range of motion and good form, simply because I am a beginner and I am still making gains without the need for 'cheat reps'. Not to mention that I actually want to also lift when I am old, so it's better to actually listen to your joints. Because once you fuck up your knees or back or what ever, it's really difficult to do the exercises.

[@OneStopMMO]

he is going to point out the obvious: Dr. Mike is a juicer, which he is. Not to say there ius anything wrong with it, but Alex speaks to natural growth and most of the other fitness people are speaking from an enhanced standpoint.

[@richardboldbrooker6327]

He's right; the term cheat or dirty rep is misleading. If like me, you first needed a bit of muscle in the arms and chest before you can do body-weight push ups properly (or just do one at all) then a 'cheat' rep is what you are after because you are concentrating on the muscle extension; the lifting down or lengthening part of a rep. For example; I can use two 15kg dumbbells with proper form; core engaged, arms fixed to the side, no rounding of shoulders, no swinging for momentum, etc, etc. But if I get just the one 20kg or 25kg dumbbell, and do a 'dirty rep' on the contraction part; the shortening of the biceps muscle. Get some swing on the rep, use some shoulder power, or my other hand to make sure the dumbbell is lifted, and then do the lengthening part properly, because your muscle is stronger in the lengthening of the muscle, and you do it as slow as you can. That is guaranteed micro tears in the muscle fibres, that produces hypertrophy; 48 to 72 hours of muscle repair that builds on muscle. So it can't be a 'cheat' if it does what you wanted to it do; cause muscle growth. The only caveat I'd add; this is for guarenteed 'hypertrophy' muscle building for the body beautiful at the beach. Strength training is more 5 reps x 5 sets at 80% of your 1RM that you do with precise mechanical form.

[@robertsaladino]

Cheats are good for a new and different stimulus...yes you can cheat and still say "I like the mind muscle connection"...just because you do something one day out of the month doesn't mean you prescribe to it as a set theory.

[@josteinrekustad2758]

What are your thoughts on cheat reps when training for power vs hypertrophy?

[@matttaylor1449]

Power and strength are the same except power has a bit more to do with speed. I really depends on the lift. E.g a clean or snatch requires power, but the power can be build by getting stronger in the deadlift, allowing you to move faster with lower weights.

[@xXBANANAphone51Xx]

Can't wait for more MRV content

[@Prophetelf]

Cheat reps, AKA bro lifters. Any university Gym, bro lifters everywhere.

[@knoblauchdittrich7412]

U didnt really talk about the ULTIMATE stretch enhancement by pulling with excessive momentum. I mean, you propably cant recommend that for the average joe, but there are things you can do that make you much less likely to get injured in particular areas (hips, lover back), whilst milking the trap/lat gains in a row for example.

[@findcopypaste]

how does one do cheat reps on a floor deadlift?

[@ddw-ge1ss]

T-bar cheat rows are the best you can do

[@dayontegrimes2861]

+ Team Juggernaut I see that you do alot of video collaborations with Dr. Mike and I am a going to buy a training template bundle to help take my training to the next level, but I was wondering if the training templates from team juggernaut and the templates from renaissance periodization were the same since you work together? and if they aren't the same, what are the differences? Thank you very much and if I should direct this message to someone else please advise me on who I should direct it to!

[@JuggernautTrainingSystems]

Dayonte Grimes they're different. Chad wrote the Juggernaut ones and Dr Mike the RP ones. Lots of similar ideas. The juggernaut team online coaching comes with coach access for Q&A and video analysis.

[@snoflake9485]

Neural gains from neural fatigue?

[@RedfishCarolina]

Power Shrugs are basically pure "cheat reps" but they give me the best trap response of nearly any lift.

[@paulchristie3306]

Traps are the easiest /quickest muscle to develop. 4 weeks of dumbell shrugs is all it takes to get 'weightlifters shoulders'.

[@kring3l0rd]

negative repetitions can be gelpfull. i overdid em tho, it s a temptation to ego with it, i wont lie.

[@mitkev1975]

What is your opinion about cheating the 2-3 Last reps for eccentric negatives?

[@sayantanghosh2956]

It's better to take the help of a spotter, ask him/her to push hard for the concentric phase and then you go for the slow eccentric negatives. Trust me, this works.

[@muhammahashfaq1013]

dr great work

[@konskitrening7071]

and CT keeps yelling "curl, curl, curl..." lol

[@MsquaredFTW]

I love Mike but I'm always bothered by his blinking

[@szotakandrei]

Pretty sure it's some sort of medical issue.

[@thebanaap]

If you're bothered that easily better stay off the internet.

[@swxggod]

Could be a mild form of tourettes resulting in that motor tic. I have tourettes and I blink in short bursts of 3-5 reps every 10-20 seconds lol.

[@thebanaap]

I see you've provided some great comments, keep it up Percy.

[@imBASKET6]

Could be due to wearing contacts. When I was wearing soft contact lenses my blinks would go up in both frequenty and intensity..

[@mattroggenkamp6717]

hmm Scott Herman would disagree

[@donluchitti]

Stating to love this channel. cool

[@123abcd8]

His deltoids are freakin me out

[@JonStossel]

but but but Alex from Alpha Destiny says you need to do cheat reps because... reasons. And he's some Guido guy from Quebec so he's got to be right.

[@Yon_Jon5715]

What he is actually doing for his trapezius is heavy isometrics in a stretched position. Which, very evidently from him, works.

[@JonStossel]

Yon Jon I understand what Alex thinks he's doing, but his evidence is very anecdotal and his logic chain is often tenuous. Like for example, he achieved a lot of trap hypertrophy by doing this, therefore he claims all other methods are inferior. This despite the fact that he admits all he used to do for traps was slow movements with light weight (shrugs with 50 pound dumbbells) where he focused on the eccentric. Has he ever mentioned simply trying basic progressive overload? Also, his logic of 'it worked for me so it'll work for everyone." Although he's at least tempered this with saying he thinks only intermediates and beyond should train like this.

[@samplumb5496]

I'm sure Alex will have little to no problem with this video. Alex specifically states to only use cheat reps for certain exercise like shrugs and never to do it for things like bench,squat or deadlift.

[@benjaminx7822]

Cheat shrugs and cheat rows have done wonders for me

[@43Steelerss]

* quote avi *

[@GUIDE_Nico]

16 people are 3 inch pressers

[@miguelrmusic]

davin faseek, watch and learn

[@berrysliwa1]

If the stretch is independent muscle stimuli than cheat reps are better at stretching in many pulls, even if contracting portion is the same like in strict, lowering portion requires more activation due to higher load. And if you think about it, all Olympic lifts are cheat, because they use momentum, which is considered most athletic sport by the way. So in my opinion, cheat reps are useful tool but you have to know how and when to use them, definitely not for beginners.

[@JorisWeima]

Hmm so this video is not about 'proper' cheat reps like Arnold did...

[@OGgrinder]

💯

[@otonaxo]

totally disagree bt what do i know

[@Verdad2024]

Some is science and some is bro

[@dunnjefferson5837]

Which part was bro?

[@gustavolealgomes5448]

@@dunnjefferson5837 muscles

[@duncanthaw6858]

>Cheating squats and deadlifts How does one cheat a deadlift?

[@bakters]

By rounding the back. This way part of the load is on the spine itself.

[@duncanthaw6858]

That is not a cheat though. It actually makes the lift harder (and probably more painful) the entirety of the load is borne by the back anyway, you are only allowing it to shift to a less advantageous position.

[@bakters]

+Duncan Thaw - Let's call it "ego lifting" then. However we call it, the truth is that by rounding the lower back plenty of people are capable of lifting a bit more, or especially of grinding out this last rep or two. Once your primary movers (glutes, erectors and hams) are fried, shifting the load to many supposedly weaker positions might result in being able to do "one more". Just because those other areas are not totally fired at the moment. Once we mentioned "ego lifting", in case of squats it's mostly restricted to limited range of motion. Technically you could achieve a bit more overload (harder set) by doing one or two partials at the end, though many people who go this way end up in doing partials all the time. With a gymbag full of excuses why they do what they do. "My knees hurt", "I broke my back while parachuting", "My psychiatrist told me to squat high", the lot. ;-)

[@darthmaul5812]

half squats and t&g deadlifts

[@rurushx6654]

when you bounce the weight on the floor it helps you with the initial part of the deadlift, wich results to be the hardest

[@startswimming9859]

#EricBugenhagen

[@jasonvoorhees8899]

7:07 two words.... CT Fletcher...

[@altuber99_athlete]

Peopleeeeee listen to Alpha Destiny.

[@dessertstorm7476]

bro shave your shoulders/back or wear a t-shirt.

[@Houseguy2]

I don't think he cares, and neither does anyone else.

[@MsquaredFTW]

Phlegm Atic he actually shaved right before this video. his hair just grows that fast

[@dessertstorm7476]

if i was displaying them on youtube, I probably would.

[@dessertstorm7476]

Morgan Marshall must be the tren

[@dessertstorm7476]

Uh oh, its a GAY PANIC

[@OneStopMMO]

Let me just add that Dr. Mike is an anabolic user, there is nothing wrong with that; our laws arew stupid. However he is not speaking from any experience of building muscle as a natural athlete. hence Alphadestiny is doing what no one else has, natural growth due to nonconventional methods. Dr. Mike is super informative and juggernaut training is awesome that being said I must always add a grain of salt to the advice of someone who is not natural, your 3d delts and huge muscle gut doesn't allow me to just accept your bottomline.

[@toanvo427]

Did he say he was a steroid user or is this your opinion based upon his physique?

[@harryfabian]

This sounds like "listen to how smart I am explain something everybody knows"

[@punanilover4934]

ryan tyler you realize these are mostly for novices and beginners right?