Fix For Flickering OSD

[@LAHover]

6 years later, and you are sill helping us. Thank you JC, you did so much for this wonderful hobby! Miss you man.

[@sparkyfever808]

As far into the hobby as I get, I never stop coming back here. Love and appreciate this guy! Thanks again, JC. We miss ya!

[@menardliamzon187]

Thanks JC. I have this issue for a long time now... You're still helping us noobs from up there in heaven. Thanks again.

[@2663540]

been searching all over for this problem.. beta flight f3.. no osd with 4s until punch out.. but had osd all the time with 3s. This is the only place I found the solution. once again saved by JC.. RIP JC we miss you greatly..

[@metoo3918]

Thank you yet again. You and Baldwell are my FPV heros. Peace where you rest.

[@no1skynetfan745]

You are still helping people, bless your soul

[@PerryEarl]

Bro! Thank you for this!!! My FC has a bad 5v regulator so I was running my camera off of my VTX, and the OSD was sketchy. Moved just the ground wire for the cam, back to the FC, and BOOM... No more sketchy OSD. Thank you!

[@nihilisticone4215]

I've tried wiring up my TS5823 and micro minimosd and PZ0420M on a 250 quad with a Naze32 Rev5 the way you recommend with all grounds going back to the PDB, and I got OSD display, but black screen (no video). I had to run the camera ground to the OSD, and the OSD ground to the PDB, and then it all worked. I'm powering the OSD off of spare motor pins on the FC, and powering the cam and VTX from the PDB (battery voltage, because I sometimes run 3S as well as 4S).

[@ceegeefpv2676]

Miss you bro,wish you were still here 😪 RIP

[@yethinderragav]

CEEGEE FPV what happened to him?

[@ceegeefpv2676]

@@yethinderragav He passed away in a motorcycle accident

[@yethinderragav]

Oh! 😞

[@notasixpack]

I do wire from gnd to cam. And have never used gnd pads for video signal wires. However I've still had OSD flicker. Here's what always solves it for me. On micro minim I attach an extra small 220uF 10v cap to the gnd/5v pads. On omnibus I attach the same capacitor to an open gnd/5v pad on the FC. Some FCs though you also need the 470uF 35v cap you've shown before in addition to the smaller one. NOT for flight issues, but for smoother power going to 5v. I found a 6x5mm 220uF 10v cap on amazon. tiny.

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Sounds like a great idea to me

[@presentthejackrussell2041]

Another excellent video, I like the virtual wires, loud and clear for explanation.

[@federico1414]

i have random flickering, just started for no reason... and i cant believe this work! haaha so simple! thanks again! i hope your drones still fly up there!

[@lefnutfpv8802]

Thank you for helping me fix this as always. miss you bro!

[@irishfpv7205]

loving the little tips like this one. going to help me immensely with my first build!

[@glytch5]

hmm so i'm power my camera and vtx from my PDB... I am not using the 5v out on the vtx for anything, so I didn't bother connecting that ground anywhere... I wonder if running that ground would magically fix my issue?

[@leohobbleohobb3781]

I think you can connect a small electrolytic capasitor over pluss and minus on the camera powerlines.it should solve the issue also

[@rott420]

Can you maybe do a video on fixing video interference issues? I've got 2 recent builds with issues, one has severe lines and blacks out with snap flips and rolls and aggressive turns, and another build browns out the cam and possibly the vtx completely when I throttle up past 50% so it is not even flyable. I realize this is some sort of electrical issue, do I add more caps? Do I use an LC filter? I've built 6 quads on the same basic pdb/cam/vtx/esc....and only have changed frames and motors between the 6, and only my last 2 have issues....it's fairly frustrating!

[@steelrainfpv3383]

What happened to your Strix Ochi fpv camera review bro? I was just about to ask a question on how you specifically wired it to the Omnibus to get the translucent osd to appear?

[@carlosfpv]

Hi JC, Having this same issue with the betaflight F3 board. Since the FC has a built-in PDB what can I do. I use a 1000uf low-esr cap on the main leads and power the camera from the VTX. The camera is a Foxeer. Any thoughts?

[@tommysmith2908]

Very nice JC, you've changed the way I'll be wiring my NEW STRIX today. Great Video Thanks

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Awesome man. Hope you enjoy it.

[@tommysmith2908]

There is a pond where I fly...just say'n

[@marcplace6531]

What version of bf are you running on your awk210 with omnibus f4? I've got an omnibus f4 on my awk 210. I'm getting the spin of death on mine. I had it on 3.1.5 then I dropped it to 3.1.1. I have a RTFQuads 4 in 1 infantry 30a dshot esc. When I input abrupt roll or pitch inputs it freaks out drops to the ground then I get a reboot sound from the esc's. I just updated my esc's also. I updated my esc to latest version 16.65 My next move will be to keep dropping bf versions until this stops.

[@Bamlydean]

So do you need a power distribution board? I thought you can pull power right off of a Naz 32 board?

[@bmoreking443]

Jc I'm using a omnibus f3 anywhere over 50% throttle I lose video with a 4s but not with a 3s. should my cam and vtx grd be on the Fc or pdb? BTW the omnibus is getting full voltage of the battery

[@Manindewar]

Thankyou, still relevant. Saved. Miss you

[@jordanbass3210]

i am learning i have a ccd camera that has an osd on it with an extra plug to control it how do i use it i want that little dot in the middle and maby my voltage and stuff

[@victorfonte]

+Project Blue Falcon Different subject but, what about ESC ground wires? An increasing number of PDBs (with signal pads) and FCs seem to expect only the signal wires from ESCs to be connected. Would you say it is safe to ignore/remove the ground wires from the ESCs, or connected them to some ground pad in the PDB (or FC)? Thanks!

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

It's best to keep the ground wire. Joshua Bardwell did a good video on it. I've always soldered the small and large ground wires from the ESC to the same pad on the PDB. Before soldering I wrap the small wire around the large one two or three times, that helps it from being pulled out in crashes.

[@victorfonte]

Thanks for the advice, Jc. Somehow I missed Joshua's video on that subject but I'll certainly check it out as well: thanks for the heads up! BTW, for my level of knowledge on this hobby, both of you are running the most interesting and helpful channels on KZbin. It's amazing how you guys are actually making life so much easier to the whole spectrum of RC hobbyists like myself. Really appreciate your time and effort here, Jc!

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

In general I like the Runcam Swift. It's not the best, not the worst, but its great for the price. Unless its a camera for my AWK210 and Hellbender frames, I just now started using the Strix Ochi because its made specifically for the camera mount on those frames.

[@victorfonte]

+Project Blue Falcon Just watched Joshua's video -- thanks for the hint --, and read most of the (very long) comment thread. This is a very debatable subject, to say the least. Joshua's advice seems to be a bit different from yours, though. It seems he is suggesting to always establish the shortest possible ground connection between the FC and the ESCs -- avoiding vregs, etc --, and to make sure the signal and ground wires are twisted (for better shielding). I'm baffled by so many people arguing against using ground wires to avoid loops, as well. Also read a very interesting comment (from Ozzy3333333) that made me think that the main culprit (for signal corruption) could actually be the quality and gage of the power wires going to the ESC. If he is right -- Joshua seems to agree with that possibility --, then maybe we should simply use adequate power wires, and no ground signal wire should be needed. A lot of experimenting ahead, for sure! ;-)

[@quincypurcell5222]

Still helping out, RIP dude. 😭😭😭

[@LarokCreations]

LOL, I was just working on this issue....I thought after watching you video I was going to have to redo it... Lucky me I was already doing it the way you recommend. I am get lots of lines at above 50% throttle. So I am installing a capacitor

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Capacitors do help, but if it still doesn't go away then you may need an actually LC filter, which is a capacitor and inductor in one.

[@godsun358]

I am going to switch h up my ground wires from my FC to my ESC ground pad. Is this ok?

[@MylesShannon]

I fixed my flickering on throttle up with a 470uF cap right on the +/- on the micro minimosd. Unfortunately this didn't fix the video feed going completely black mid-flight. I might just have a defective board.

[@solalanot]

Did you solve your problem?

[@richgebhardt7960]

would this solve flickering of the camera? I have a cricket vtx and a run cam swift. and I get some flickering on my awk 210

[@ryantodd82]

I primarily run omnibus flight controllers as well. I get perfect video & OSD by sending vbat through an LC filter straight to the RAM pin (next to vbat pin) This passes filtered power through the board and out to vtx & camera. This way allows you to run power, ground & video wires from video in & video out to the board which keeps everything super clean in appearance and performance. This does require good CCD cam and VTX with a wide voltage range

[@jsinfpv5783]

ryan todd I tried this and the controller got extremely hot, so be careful!

[@ryantodd82]

Good to know, I'll keep an eye on that. Through trial and error I've fried 2 omnibus F3 boards over the last year but my original omnibus F4 (v1) has been setup like this pretty much since they were released. Was the board you're referring to an F3 or an F4? I'm convinced there's a big difference in durability

[@jsinfpv5783]

+ryan todd F3 knockoff from banggood, great board, love it for its capabilities but I only power receiver off of it. Everything else I power off of mate micro pdb, you have too watch them too. They are fairly consistent but I have had a few that put out slightly less than the 5v and 12v it's supposed to.

[@jsinfpv5783]

+Jsin C. MATEK.

[@ryantodd82]

Lol, autocorrect always trying to sensor us... Yes they do! On some builds I'll use a standalone adjustable regulator set around 9v to power my FPV system. I rarely use a PDB W/ built-in regulators for that very reason.

[@staydown.normal5323]

also what caused my problem was the camera worked on pal but flickered a little almost not noticeable but in ntsc it works fine i was trying to chase a bad wire for no reason lol i did add a cap and a main battery ground but it never went away lol it was because i was on pal...... it worked but osd was not perfect

[@alexanderlang461]

Thanks for this video but how does this wotk on omnibus FC´s? Is it possible to use any ground? I bought the DYS F4 and I want to biuld it in with a capacidor..

[@AaradhyaKulshrestha]

really sorry,,,,i wish he was alive,,,,,RIP jc...i still use your vids like a noob...you died too young rip bro

[@jamich1]

Who is JC is it the guy who made this video ? I hope not.

[@Blowfeld20k]

Yeah he died in a motor bike traffic accident .... last year.

[@nandakoryaaa]

Fixed my problem. Thank you. RIP JC.

[@trnnesseeMAGA]

Hi, Would there ever be a problem with the VTX antenna grounding to the frame (where the ant. goes thru the frame)? Thanks

[@JustinDDavis]

Dragon Rider FPV Quads Not the actual connector on the VTX or antenna. If the coating on the actual bendy part of the antenna is rubbed off and you can see the shielding, then you will have problems.

[@yksikaksikolmen]

Thank you very much. All noice is gone ! Awsome channel ! Keep it up !

[@BASSstarlet]

forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/rip-jc-of-project-blue-falcon.35573/

[@lloyderex]

Thanks for the help wherever you are. RIP

[@iquinores]

I have the omnibus f3 I want to run my osd so If follow ur diagram here do I still have to jump the 12/5v pin on the FC ??? please help lol.... Aloha keep up the good work 👍 bro

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

No you dont have to jump either pin. And just my advice and the way I wire everything, I dont power the camera or Vtx off the flight controller, I still use the PDB. I only run the video wires to the flight controller.

[@iquinores]

Project Blue Falcon I have to fx 799t vtx with 5v out to the cam so I can just run it like ur diagram with the omnibus f4 correct ?

[@kevinhill5476]

Nice one, another very good tip, Keep um coming my son !

[@Mazee2211]

i had some issues with micro minimosd...osd dissapearing on throttle punch outs even black screen for one second and i had all the ground wires on pdb..then i put the ground wires on micro minimosd next to video in and video out and it fixed the problem..so its a bit confusing which is a right way

[@migfpv1790]

Thanks for the info. Having same issues with micro minimosd, but atm i have cam ground and VTX out ground connected, like in the first picture in this video. Will try your method first, and the PDB method second. I hope i will be able to solve the issues.

[@Mazee2211]

+MiG FPV its just fixed the osd on throttle punch outs for me..once i went out flying and did a flip or roll the osd disappeard and then came back after second..i thought its fixed cuz i was trying it home holding the quad down and punching the throttle and it was ok..whatever.. its better than it was..i had blackouts when i pushed the throttle a little bit.. and now the osd disappears only on flips and rolls..its weird but its flyable

[@migfpv1790]

thanks.

[@Cyrushenrik]

i had pdb with filtering thing. 5/12-bat. so vtx pad i solder it. then the red from cam also in + on same vtx pad. and video"yello" from vtx to cam. works fine! i dont understand what u men about lines. yes but only when i loop som tres´ but now i crash. so it was open. so i do what you explane. just take the yellow wire. cut. and the vtx in and cam. but then i got no pic? i try all channels. but nothing. i can´t change vtx band. yes but it shud bw there. but yes i also soldert the capasitor on. dont use all wire. only vtv to pdb. and cam to pdb. and then cut the wire to get osd. but nothing! have a new vtx. to seek another channel. but is it my settings! ?? thx for all. il try my selv. and have ask before were i find anwser first,. but this! just startet so neebie. have no osd :-( have runcam shift :-)

[@gygaxthegoat2491]

RIP JC. You are missed mate.

[@pewwbz9647]

He died?

[@skins6007]

My OSD works fine, but my callsign disappears? what would cause the CALLSIGN only to disappear after 5 seconds?

[@marvfpv1590]

can I use the minimosd without a fc? i want to put it on a flying wing, and just show me the battery voltage

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

You can. I'll do a video on it real soon. I have some wing videos coming.

[@michaelpetale6872]

Good Vid as usual bro!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🥇👏

[@QSpeedRacer]

I changed nothing but plug in motors and osd now flickering 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@vektr6278]

unfortunately im having this problem on my kombini fc. everything is powered from the fc

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

LC filters help with the flickering. I've never used that FC but you could try putting the LC filter in between the FC and Vtx/camera, assuming the Vtx and camera takes the same voltage.

[@goncaloareias98]

Great tip ! Thanks

[@brucenixon7513]

Thanks. Solved a problem I had been working on.

[@pabz06]

smartaudio setup?

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

I'll give it a try and do a video on it.

[@igor_misic]

back then when VTXs had 200 Megawatts 3:35

[@rfly-fpv]

Hahaha :D You made my day. Looks like in China metric system is case-insensitive ;)

[@Demithafernando]

why is the video wire connected to the pdb ?

[@JustinDDavis]

Demitha Fernando If you are refering to the blue board, it is the OSD board.

[@JustinDDavis]

Demitha Fernando If you are refering to the blue board, it is the OSD board.

[@davidanderson6222]

Still come to blue falcon to get help. Man, I bet he would love the micro stuff now! Just saying, rip bro!

[@TheOpticlens]

Miss u jc

[@magusstrixgaming]

wow alot to take in but thank u for all the info

[@Cyrushenrik]

got it sorry. i snange the in and out. so i got it now! but then i wil go in and try settings. cause after arm. nothing! Hmm but find the pid menu and so on. just nothing when i fly! :-/ ;-D yur so nice. find the problem every time! :-)

[@Rinden80]

This fix work for me :) thx

[@toaster5148]

I fixt it today 9v solved it for me no noise no flicker

[@terrorbirbfpv4732]

thanks so much. rip