Sorry but you forgot to show us what was an actual performance drop by scrolling to hwinfo cpu tab where it shows frequency and core multiplyers. In my short experience, curve optimizer is already enough to make cpu go faster and cooler due to more thermal headroom. Its basically an undervolt as if its were a gpu.
@JWTulkas Жыл бұрын
thanks for the great video..... I've got a 7600x and B650e-f and I recently enabled PBO and set it to 'Enhancement' and then 'Level 2 - 80c' and my PC wouldn't boot/BsoD windows repair. It booted again when I cleared the settings. The only other setting I have changed prior to this is the DDR to 6000mhz in EXPO1, which is stable. Did my PC not boot because I didn't change the 'curve optimizer' as well? I'm a bit nervous to try again as I don't want to corrupt my Win11 Install / Nvme Drive. You mention the 'sweet spot' in the curve, I'm not really sure what that means. What does 30/15 etc relate to? Sorry for the questions, Thank you
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@jhaygano1875 Жыл бұрын
i dont understand, we got the same CPU but my cinebench score is 1102. crazy yours was 19000
@vladimirljubopytnov5193 Жыл бұрын
@@altiboxtv9570 I had this one and had to return it... there was no way to flash any other bios version after flashing once to the newest.
@Hamzimza11 ай бұрын
This was greatly helpful. Im running a 7700x and a MSI Mobo. I was watching YT videos and my CPU would start ramping up to 67 degrees celsius with my fans ramping up loudly. After doing this im running constantly around 40 C with quiet fans. Much appreciated.
@SaulPeralta2189 ай бұрын
Did you lose performance after this or it stills being the same?
@Hamzimza9 ай бұрын
@@SaulPeralta218 Still the same!
@xSzeth5 ай бұрын
I can’t find the curve optimizer in my MSI BIOS. Did you?
@xSzeth5 ай бұрын
Never mind. IGNORE
@amineaminos41854 ай бұрын
Can I do the same seeting with 5950x?
@telefonbarmann45149 ай бұрын
With my 7600x a negative 30 offset alone brought the cpu temps down 10°C and my cinebench and 3d mark results got better too. The best thing is though that when i open games like Cyberpunk or Metro Exodus now, my fans don't ramp up for a short time as high as before, its really pleasent now. Thanks for making this video!
@Quinsterrr6 ай бұрын
Damn, my same CPU can only do a negative offset of 10. I guess you won the silicon lottery
@motorkr28576 ай бұрын
@@Quinsterrr mine is shit as fuck, negative of 5, and i get random restart....7600x fucking shit, that's my luck
5 ай бұрын
@@motorkr2857 mine stable at -25, -30 crash 1 and never try 30 again.
@utalimba15025 ай бұрын
5600x, same thing! temperatures even better
5 ай бұрын
After a month i had random restart but no bsod, so it’s not stable?
@pegafff6558 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to thank you, i have changed a bit the settings you showed in this video, and now my pc works greater than ever!!
@sstier48 Жыл бұрын
Definitely do this people.. it will drastically reduce fan noise, and also help keep your other components cooler, Definitely worth losing a couple % in performance
@CarinoGamingStudio Жыл бұрын
its called underclocking.
@ayayotoko Жыл бұрын
I'm just playing CODM in Gameloop. do you think this is okay?
@gontzalcaig Жыл бұрын
I did this and my % performance even increased, so yeah, just do it.
@sstier48 Жыл бұрын
@@ayayotoko yes
@patsk8872 Жыл бұрын
@@gontzalcaig That may depend on the "silicon lottery"; exceptional parts could perform better even undervolted, while bad parts could perform worse. But either way it's a good idea. Save power and extend the lifespan of your parts, take the few % hit if necessary.
@tomkocur Жыл бұрын
You should also decrease SoC voltage, 1.35V is way too much. Based on my vast experience with a total number of two Ryzen 7xxx CPUs, going as low as 1.15V is pretty much risk free (with EXPO enabled), while reducing uncore power to a significant degree. This way you get lower idle consumption (and temps) and "more power" for CCDs (if TDP is what limits you, which will be the case for all non-X CPUs running more than two-three cores at full load).
@hititsenpai7615 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of buying the x670e aorus master with 7700x. Is the issue of VSOC voltage resolved with the new bios revisions in Gigabyte? I couldn't find anything on this topic neither on Reddit nor Buildzoid's videos. Thanks in advance for answering.
@tomkocur Жыл бұрын
@@hititsenpai7615 it was "resolved" with F10 BIOS in May. Latest version is F13d with the latest AGESA.
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@isxmiyulll Жыл бұрын
I have the exact settings from the video copied apart from setting the curve optimiser from 30 to 20 because I think that it is stable. I am running an AMD Ryzen 5 7600x and have lowered the SoC voltage to 1.15v. However, my PC runs fine, it's just once or twice, I do encounter application crashes. I don't know what to change to prevent this? Either increase/decrease my voltage or increase/decrease the curve optimiser? Other than that, I definitely do recommend people to do this as overall temp lower, power consumption lower and in some cases performance increases. This has happened to me in my case with my CPU.
@tomkocur Жыл бұрын
@@isxmiyulll this is how I do it - it might take couple of days, but it's necessary if you want your system stable: 1. BIOS settings to default, restart 2. Upgrade BIOS to latest 3. BIOS settings to default, restart 4. Enable EXPO, boot to windows, run OCCT stress test (1h CPU, 1h RAM), or equivalent. If there are errors, there's problem with RAM modules. 5. Decrease SoC voltage and stress test, until you find stable minimum 6. (optional) Decrease VDD IO and run memory stress test - the difference here isn't huge and some boards (MSI latest bios) don't even allow this, when I forced it via ryzen master, I ran into issues. 7. Increase negative Curve Optimizer value and test for CPU stability. You might want to use varying load at 1-2 cores so they're pushed to the max. Stable minimums will depend on multiple factors, so it's hard to recommend specific values. I don't recommend using "memory context restore", though. It makes boot almost instant, but it might impact stability quite significantly.
@XASMATV. Жыл бұрын
thank you for mentioning to low the Curve Optimizer at 25,20 and below if we have problem with windows, i actually did at 30,25 and 20, but at 15 everything works fine now
@s6h6938 ай бұрын
Sorry dumb but is going lower better?
@r.matutino3 ай бұрын
same as mine
@curiousskipper3 ай бұрын
In 7:26 u have no notification about you have change your Curve Optimizer Negative turn to 30. How can't be notified ?
@drewglo4759 Жыл бұрын
With a 7900x my score at first was 25k but the temps where also at 95C the limit. After doing the steps here It went to 24.5k, but the temps dropped dramatically all the way to 55-60C!
@Daveed2407 Жыл бұрын
Same settings? Mines boots to blue screen with the 7900x
@buffalowxngs1512 Жыл бұрын
@@Daveed2407 I'm planning to do the same for my 7900x, but noticed that hes running a 7700x. Did you ever find the right settings to prevent the blue screen while booting?
@JoseDanielGonzalezGil Жыл бұрын
@@buffalowxngs1512 PPT 230, TDC 160, EDC 225 for 170W AM5 Processors.
@Kenshinbtt4 ай бұрын
@JoseDanielGonzalezGil what about the 7800x3d rated at 120w
@alphaomega196916 күн бұрын
Im guessing you have Asus motherboard? Right?
@Resio_23 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips I have the 7700x and when I was gaming my temps would of gone up in the 80 now it stays cool
@armandoarroyo Жыл бұрын
Did you apply this same settings? Mine could not handle -30 I set it to -25
@AuburnMan8 ай бұрын
What are you averaging?
@Resio_238 ай бұрын
@@AuburnMan on games i average around high 60
@Thatdemon013 ай бұрын
How did you do it brother , I need help , I stream & play warzone but I hit 95 idk if I need a new cpu cooler or just do this but I don’t wanna lose performance
@itsyouuu31524 сағат бұрын
@@Thatdemon01 did you ever figure it out im going through the same thing
@NunYaBeezWax80 Жыл бұрын
i hate how comapnies say “that is normal”. in the car word manufactures will say 1 quart of oil per 1k miles is “normal” just so that they can get away with the flawed design behind low friction piston rings. Then a true solution arises and they try to spin the change in their favor.
@RoGie_B10 ай бұрын
It worked very fine! I played around a little bit and set it on PBO 30 with the PPT limit on 100 watts (7700x). Now i got smooth 69C with the AiO (Arctic Freezer 3 - 240) set on 27%. Its so quiet and cool. Lovely! Cinebench R23 score is 19241 (90 watts was 18894 and stock was 19160) Thanks a lot!
@caprabellla9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, the temps got a lot better and the performance was strangely BETTER.
@esim17502 ай бұрын
After changing silicon paste several times and being disappointed with 95 degree temperature, this tutorial helped me to reach 75 degree temperature at peak load.. r5 7600x processor and prime b650m-k motherboard... I did according to the video, but I changed the ppt to 95.. Now I am on frequency 5.4 and the temperature is very good.. Thank you❤️
@JameBryanSantos2 сағат бұрын
Can I know what did you do? I have the same processor as you, may I know the settings that you put?
@christiaanluies23754 ай бұрын
This helped alot. It also helped my gpu usage go up because for some reason my cpu was trying to be the star of the show.
@boastyy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. On looking at the hardware info voltages your soc voltage is 1.35. With the recent reports of burnt cpu's would be better to reduce this down manually to 1.25 or put a newer bios version on to hard lock it at 1.30v. Thanks man.
@ValkryNL8 ай бұрын
Isn't that what the curve optimizer does? Undervolting?
@wille13377 Жыл бұрын
I copied your bios settings and went from 91.3C to 71,1C MAX temp, I didn't know this was a problem until I saw my temp numbers... Thank you!
@Forty2de Жыл бұрын
Anything below 95 degrees *isn't* a problem. It will not harm your CPU's lifespan in any significant capacity. You will replace your CPU when it gets outdated long before it starts to wear out. It's only if you do some serious overclocking or your CPU is constantly thermal throttling that it begins to wear out in any meaningful timeframe. Also note that during a benchmark like Cinebench, your CPU temps will be much higher than in any real world applications such as gaming. The moments where it does heat up are typically so few and short that it's nothing to concern yourself with. What you do get from the lower temps is that your room won't get as hot and your CPU cooler won't be as loud. Lower wattage also means you save some money on electricity. However, it's usually the GPU that's the determining factor here, not a Ryzen CPU. Graphics cards use way more power and generate way more heat these days, your CPU doesn't have that big of an impact.
@cant_Comment Жыл бұрын
@@Forty2de when mining monero what would be the ideal undervolt? i want to get maximum efficiency where i mine with the least amount of power consumption. how do i do that on a gigabyte motherboard? there are no guides on the internet so i dont know how to do this. im new to these things and has zero experience with gigabyte motherboards
@GregoryShtevensh Жыл бұрын
@@Forty2de🤡
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/@@Forty2de or dont i need to toanything
@01LopezF8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I usually dont comment alot but my temps went from 95C when trying to run a specific game down to 60C! Anyone with a AMD 7700X consider this before making any hardware changes. I almost bought an AIO cooler thinking that my PC was running too hot!
@Yung_CL4Y5 ай бұрын
I did buy an big aio thinking it ran hot just to get the exact performance that I got from my pearless assassin air cooler
@Thatdemon013 ай бұрын
Yo bro this is what I’m literally going through right now , I stream & play warzone but my cpu hits 95c which makes my whole pc run hot ash & I keep lagging & dropping fps , I know it’s my cpu cuz that the only thang heating up , my gpu stays 65 or less so idk what to do ?
@Yung_CL4Y3 ай бұрын
@@Thatdemon01 its just how the am5 cpus operate but you can do a slight undervolt to fix fps drops
@Thatdemon013 ай бұрын
@@Yung_CL4Y what bios setting should change cuz these didn’t work out for me
@Yung_CL4Y3 ай бұрын
@@Thatdemon01 I’ll put a video up on my channel later tonight to show a nice undervolt for good temps it’s pretty easy to set up
@bestonyoutube Жыл бұрын
7:15 why doesnt it say that curve was also changed? was it changed at all?
@technoWZ5598 Жыл бұрын
I've never had problems with high CPU temperatures, but I did have an old Dell Latitude laptop that did get very warm, unusually hot, even when only doing basic tasks. I found out it's cpu thermal paste had gotten pretty dry, maybe it needed a thermal repaste. I don't have experience doing that sort of thing though.
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@technoWZ5598 Жыл бұрын
@@Britec09 Great video by the way 👍
@jTheDigitalDoctor Жыл бұрын
I have extensive experience doing that sort of thing having worked in a computer repair shop for 7 years. Avoid it if you don't know what you're doing as you can cause more harm than good.
@technoWZ5598 Жыл бұрын
@@jTheDigitalDoctor Ok. Interesting. I would love to learn how to do a thermal repaste someday.
@jTheDigitalDoctor Жыл бұрын
@@technoWZ5598 Well, usually the whole laptop has to come apart and depending upon the orientation of the board the board may have to come out. From there it's usually about 4 screws that hold in the heatsink. You pop them out and apply a pea sized amount of quality thermal compound and spread it out with a credit card over the surface of the chip then tighten the screws back up. Here's where a lot of people screw up-they apply too much torque on the screws. All that does is cause the sink to bend and squeeze out the paste. Just tighten to slightly over finger tightness in a star pattern and you're done. Eventually your Dell will overheat without fresh thermal compound-at the very least the longevity of the device will be shortened due to the heat and performance affected. Heat creates entropy in the system which results in performance degradation. But Latitudes are old and no longer produced I believe so your best bet is to buy another laptop anyways. Yep.
@MrDankid3 ай бұрын
Had the same issue with my 8600g, my cinebench went to 89ºC, so I used to disable turbo to bring down temps. But that cost me a good chunk of performance. Thanks to this video my temps are lower and I'm able to use turbo mode again, thank you very much
@capetownfitness Жыл бұрын
Please consider making a very detailed video on updating BIOS. This video was awesome, and I know there are loads of people like me who are totally lost when it comes to this. A detailed, step by step video would be extremely helpful! Asus new bios release says something about using bios renamer? I'm already lost there.
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@Miguel-th3wx11 ай бұрын
ASUS manual literally explains BIOS update? Renamer is in the file that you download for the bios.
@45eno9 ай бұрын
Format a flash drive Download your EXACT motherboards BIOS. Make sure it’s also the correct version of the board. Extract the bios download and copy and paste only the main file (about 30mb in size usually) to the formatted flash drive. Plug that flash drive into a USB port and boot into BIOS. Find the BIOS flash option and then select that 30mb file and proceed with update. Make sure to not mess with the pc during update until it states it completed. Usually about 1-3mins to update. Then reboot into BIOS page and check to see if the newer version is installed.
@Forty2de Жыл бұрын
People should know that anything below 95 degrees *isn't* a problem. It will not harm your CPU's lifespan in any significant capacity. You will replace your CPU when it gets outdated long before it starts to wear out. It's only if you do some serious overclocking or your CPU is constantly thermal throttling that it begins to wear out in any meaningful timeframe. Also note that during a benchmark like Cinebench, your CPU temps will be much higher than in any real world applications such as gaming. The moments where it does heat up are typically so few and short that it's nothing to concern yourself with. What you do get from the lower temps is that your room won't get as hot and your CPU cooler won't be as loud. Lower wattage also means you save some money on electricity. However, it's usually the GPU that's the determining factor here, not a Ryzen CPU. Graphics cards use way more power and generate way more heat these days, your CPU doesn't have that big of an impact.
@The_Panda62 Жыл бұрын
what is "throttling" exactly? also im using the 7700 and boy this thing loves to go straight to 90 when i do any gaming or downloading at all and i have no idea why, it usually mellows out around 85 after a while but im not sure why it does this
@MrC8025 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Panda62 90 is nothing. It's design to run in beast mode every chance it gets. I don't think these CPUs can thermal throttle by design. I did a manual oc and it just shut off when I accidentally let it over heat at 105c. Clocks never throttle, just shut off.
@The_Panda62 Жыл бұрын
@@MrC8025 yeah I ended up undervolting it and capping it at 85, it’s just annoying because my fans are loud as shit
@ramair325 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Panda62 so change your fan curve, also if your gpu is running open air cooling having better case flow could help or setting a custom fan curve on the gpu to help keep temps down a bit. the cpu is not that power hungry to need lots of cooling. its just auto boosting to give the best performance. you could also set the cpu to eco mode and it would reduce temps / fan noise.
@minisculex3 Жыл бұрын
@pwningpanda3826 uses fan speed software and adjusts its curve to ur liking. the sudden fan noise is due to ur computer thinking the 70c on ur cpu is bad and it need to run it in high speed fan but in reality 70c to 80c is normal for ryzen 7 when gaming to transferring file to installing game etc etc
@27Zangle Жыл бұрын
Just finished my new build with a 7600X and damn does it run hot! It likes to spike a ton and it has plenty of thermal paste. I am seriously about to send this air cooler back and get an AIO to help bring the noise down.
@MrCrrispy Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I built my 7600x new PC yesterday, I was frightened to see that at only 50% load, the temperature instantly went up to 80+° , even with a quite good Assassin 120 SE. resulting in lots of noise from the cpu fan!
@minisculex3 Жыл бұрын
U can use fan speed software and adjust ur fan speed to reasonable speed cause ryzen 7 has a normal high temperature, it was meant to be like that but ur pc wont think it normal so u gotta adjust the fan
@450__TP11 ай бұрын
i have a 7600x with aio cooler idle at 38C and while gaming for like 6h its only hit around 50C
@MrCrrispy11 ай бұрын
@@450__TP yes, but you can only achieve this with undervolting as explained in tutorials. With stock motherboard settings/voltage, it's a mess 🙂
@450__TP11 ай бұрын
@@MrCrrispy nope when mine was stock I hade those temp
@MrCrrispy11 ай бұрын
@@450__TP yeah sure, it's a special one... 😅
@ChipMIK Жыл бұрын
The 7600x are designed to work at 95C and then it throttles its performance according to how good cooling you provide it with. Misunderstood reaction to a non existing problem. You might get some extra performance by a bit undervoltage.
@welshtony1 Жыл бұрын
I needed a faster way of frying some eggs. Time to buy Ryzen 7000
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
lol nutter
@KB-1976 Жыл бұрын
95c is fine. Edit- also, Guess you know no one with a 13900ks. Weird.
@welshtony1 Жыл бұрын
@@KB-1976 I know a few with them. Guess you never seen sarcasm before
@Jay-xv1jd Жыл бұрын
Pretty odd I run @ 4k never go over 75-80 c norm 76c
@alexgamingyt-cj1bf5 ай бұрын
get a 9k series and you get an air fryer
@quadcorei8085gen2 Жыл бұрын
Isnt it ironic that he bought a 6-10% faster CPU just to throttle down it by 5%?
@thenightowl15609 ай бұрын
1% stonks is 1% stonks
@SuperFredAZ Жыл бұрын
Great video. Small performance hit and a large improvement in temps!
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@terry9397 Жыл бұрын
7.3% drop in temperature (-27K) and 40% drop in power consumption (-58W) for a 3.4% drop in performance. Not bad. Definitely worth it in this case.
@SuperFredAZ Жыл бұрын
Agree 100% well worth doing with high power chips.
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@SuperFredAZ Жыл бұрын
@altiboxtv9570 try finding a video on KZbin. Basically you can dial down the system clock 5% or so and drop the voltage on the CPU 5-10%, also the memory voltage a few percent. You dial down and then test for stability, maybe run Cinebench for 10 minutes and see if it's stable. With the clock speed and voltages reduced you may get a 20% decrease in power for a small reduction in clock speed
@tomtomkowski7653 Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is here at 1:36 and here at 9:09 No matter what you do AMD CPUs still use a lot of power when idle. Now think for a second how much time your CPU is on idle (just OS, browser, YT, etc) and how much time it is on 100% workload. The end result may be shocking but overall Intel CPUs are using less power. Yes, they use more under 100% load but instead of 30W-55W on idle Intel CPUs are using 8W-9W.
@NemoRSRB10 ай бұрын
Let's say your CPU runs 24H with 40w power draw. That's 960w in total but let's round it up to 1kW. That's 30kW for a month. With the world average kW/h price of 0.15$ that's 4.5$ per month. For who exactly is this a "problem"? Even in Ireland with the most expensive electricity (0.52$) that's 15.6$ per month with an average salary of 3860$ per month.
@tomtomkowski765310 ай бұрын
@@NemoRSRB It's not about how much it costs but about the misleading concept people have about how efficient AMD CPUs are when in reality they are not (as long your CPU is not under heavy load 100% of the time).
@NemoRSRB10 ай бұрын
@@tomtomkowski7653 Using more power in idle doesn't mean overall Intel CPU's use less power. This is what it's about and this makes no sense to me.
@tomtomkowski765310 ай бұрын
@@NemoRSRBOverall power consumption is lower on Intel CPU on normal daily usage where CPU is being utilized not even in 50% and most of the time is idling. AMD has to fix the issue with such a crazy high idle power consumption. That's it.
@NemoRSRB10 ай бұрын
@@tomtomkowski7653 My normal daily usage consists of not only idling but 3-4 hours of gaming and I do some rendering as a hobby. I suspect most people use their PC's the same, i.e. don't only watch YT and play Solitaire. And I can assure you my 14900k overall consumes way more power than my friend's 7800x3d. Also, when measuring idle power draw you have to consider not only the CPU, but MB, memory, SSD's, RGB etc. I just checked some benchmark graphs and even a Ryzen 7950x system consumes at idle the same amount of power as a 10600k (around 70w). A 14900k system is at around 80w idle. So my friend the "issue" you are talking about doesn't really exist. When considering objective facts there is nothing to support your claim. I'm signing off, have a good one.
@Skovkid2 ай бұрын
5:40 my 7700x is running with -42 offset, so there is not a cap og -30
@lonlew117Ай бұрын
my 7600x is sitting -30 and its still way too hot at idle, do you think 53-55c with a 360 aio is too hot?
@vtrix85755 ай бұрын
I want to thank u for this video! My 7900x3d was running at high 80s during cinebench, but after this I got Max 69C
@stermyslides6214 Жыл бұрын
Curve ball, but that first run, within 5k on cinebench of that w-3265m - 24 cores and hyper threaded, and only 4 ish years old, AMD are absolutely smashing it
@NonLegitNation2Ай бұрын
just got an R9 7950x. I'm currently running a -30 offset surprisingly. I haven't changed the thermal limit though because I did have it set to 80C and I was actually getting thermal throttling so I'm just letting it run hot from now on. On my past cpu, an R9 7900x I couldn't even go above -10 offset without random reboots, it was a pretty pathetically binned CPU. I still would like to bring down my temps though. I'm using a 360 AIO and still hitting around 93C even with the AIO fans and pump at 100%.
@shikaotewarrior5 ай бұрын
I went from 85 degrees to stable 55 degrees, but there was a dramatic performance reduction. I really don't see how this would be useful at all because you might as well get a less powerful chip instead of just decreasing performance like this.
@soumyachatterjee26034 ай бұрын
Exactly, just buy a lower tdp processor. What is the point of buying the x variant.
@OwlOnFire2 ай бұрын
@@soumyachatterjee2603sometimes it is cheaper and you don’t need the cooler if you’re going aftermarket, plus results may vary and every user’s needs are different, especially if you’re building for someone else and not yourself. My two cents tho.
@alphaomega196916 күн бұрын
Hello, what motherboard brands?
@williamgallan7573 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I had issues using Ryzen master but this way seems to be stable so far. Using a 7600X with a noctua nhd15 I'm maxing out at 67°C during a R23 all core test.
@williamgallan7573 Жыл бұрын
@@Kolestroll-cg1hx my temps were down from about 92°C to 67°C after following the process in the video...
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@williamgallan7573 Жыл бұрын
@@altiboxtv9570 nah, I'm not familiar with Asrock bios's sorry.
@iVETAnsolini Жыл бұрын
Google it
@EC88838 Жыл бұрын
What are your idle temps before nd after?
@johncampbell7868 Жыл бұрын
I noticed @ 8:10, infinity fabric clock at 2000 MHz and Memory at 3000 MHz (for DDR5 @ 6000MHz). I thought i read Infinity fabric should be 50% of memory rate for DDR4 and Ryzen 5000. Has this changed for Ryzen 7000 and DDR5 ?
@PyromancerRift Жыл бұрын
To make sure the curve optimizer won't make the system unstable, i suggest using the auto curve optimizer in ryzen master and put the result in the bios.
@williamgallan7573 Жыл бұрын
I have never got a stable result using Ryzen master, doing it this way in the bios has worked great for me!
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@kjcl90 Жыл бұрын
@@altiboxtv9570hit delete on startup to enter bios. There should be a fan optimizer option that'll do it for you automatically. Then toggle your curve manually from there if you wish.
@Diego-d5m3 ай бұрын
But ryzen master can change the values in the bios right? why you want to input them into the bios then??
@chrisbird4913 Жыл бұрын
I undervolted my i5 once so it could run boost clocks indefinitely, this old trick definitely can make a hot processor much more efficient under load.
@SilentTaljiGaming Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, I readjusted with cpu 5800x3D -- temps max is 10 degree lower and 3Dmark rezults for Time Spy -- on cpu 500 score higher ! From 9800 to 10300 ! and temps to be excat from 92 to 82.4
@kepler186f4 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I watched this. I'm selecting components to build a robust mid-range gaming system and was considering AMD for my CPU, currently I'm running an i5-4590 with a Radeon HD 7900 graphics card and the temperature is 31° C... according to Crystal Disk 8. A lot has changed in ten years and the learning curve is steep... but now I have the time to research.
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@zagan1 Жыл бұрын
The people that have problems will never tell you, what they are bios setting or how they are cooling the CPU. 1 guy is running ram at 6200 so the soc is running at 1.45 volts all the time on the old Bios. The new bios runs the soc at 1.3 volts at max
@sphaera3809 Жыл бұрын
I think one can get more optimal results tinning negative voltage by core. -30 on all cores might not work for all. And one should run a battery of tests before assuming a tune is stable. On my 7900X, curve optimizer values vary from 0 to -20 depending on cores. That with eco mode +10% gives me a lot of performance never getting overly hot.
@cant_Comment Жыл бұрын
make sure you get a good cooler and update the BIOS as soon as you can. i heard stories of peopIe frying their CPUs, especially the ones with the X3Ds. even my low end 7600 can get quite hot for some strange reason. RAM instability is also a common issue. my motherboard had the old 2022 BIOS. freezing and crashing stopped after i updated BIOS
@altiboxtv9570 Жыл бұрын
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@bdhaliwal24 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Followed this and got great results
@UkiPuzovic4 ай бұрын
Putting maximum processor state in windows power plan to 99% instead of 100% will largely reduce termals on CPU, and a bit of performance. r7 7800xd3 went from 84C to 55-65C under load with this simple change. It is also worth mentioning that UE 5 likes to push amd products beyond it's limits, going over 100C on both CPU and GPU. You have to limit it.
@windy1111Ай бұрын
It disables game boost technology , never set on 99%
@alphaomega196916 күн бұрын
@@windy1111 boost is useless, didn't you know that? If it was at least 2 or 3 Ghz boost I would use it.
@Vurt72 Жыл бұрын
7800x3d... checked my temp while gaming 59C.. and i only have 1 case fan so far because i've been too lazy to put the others in. Cheapest possible air cooler i could find for the CPU btw ( Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2, like 32 euro / 32 usd)
@randonkbay Жыл бұрын
yeah i dun get it, I'm running the same 7700x he is and temps under heavy load push 78-79 degrees C with no knee-capping. I'm running a cheap 360 rad but I guess it's working.
@Arkoudos Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to follow the video instructions but I cannot see the "Curve Optimizer" menu anywhere. CPU: Ryzen 5 7600x, MOBO: TUF GAMING A620M-PLUS WIFI
@hoodrat6885 ай бұрын
Helped me out alot thank you had finished my build aand thought my cooler was bad Went from 90 c to 50 to 60 under gaming loads
@AkaAshen Жыл бұрын
I set mine to the same but I don't seem to get reduced temps, it just limits it to the 85 on load. Strange, I guess theres something I'm not understanding
@brianmiller15743 ай бұрын
This is awesome video, Thank-you. I was running my 7950X on 105 ECO and it worked grate, but your way boosts my clocks higher with the same power and temps are 70s. I'm curious, I see you running Asus Strix B650E-I, do you still have that board and how is it doing. I was thinking on getting one for my next ITX build. Thank you
@VYM Жыл бұрын
19k in Cinebench on factory defaults? My 14700k with -0.015V undervolting and cutting all boost power from 253/135 watts to 110/110 and all core boost ratios from x55/56 to x40 making 26000 in Cinebench with temperature not over 65-68 degrees Celsius. And it was 30400 on default settings.
@AlirezaCF78 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! i'm using ryzen 5 7600(non x) and my temp was rising to 75-80 ° during cpu intensive games like cyberpunk and battlefield 2042.after doing this i'm getting 55-60 ° with almost the same performance
@enesipek11002 ай бұрын
Your comment was made 6 months ago. I am using the same processor. I am also considering implementing it. Have you experienced any performance degradation or unexpected problems with your system so far?
@kelvinchan85415 ай бұрын
Got mine to 100%load 60deg on 1st try, might tinker with it later on. great guide!
@alphaomega196916 күн бұрын
Hello, what motherboard brands?
@Munis695 ай бұрын
This helped a lot Thank you very much. My pc no longer sounds like a jet engine when starting a game and temps are 70 instead of 85 🎉🎉
@rob90230 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work creating this video. Could you make the same video for an Intel based computer?
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
I can do
@chepachem8351 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is God sent. Thank you.
@dantron85Ай бұрын
Can confirm works on 9000 series as well. My 9700x was instantly going to 95c in cinebench r23 and staying there before this with a 240mm AIO. After the tune I am sitting at 70c through the cinebench run.
@porpatt7491Ай бұрын
What’s your setting?
@alphaomega196916 күн бұрын
What motherboard brands?
@basil-_-iraqi160316 күн бұрын
Bro before the settings, my cpu temperature was 70 in Fortnite, after applying those settings bro went from 70s to 50s thank you ❤
@EG-O Жыл бұрын
My 7800x3D idles around 43-48c when I game it goes up to 63c to 82c is that normal? I haven’t use the steps in this video yet. My gpu stays around 48-54c.. Edit: I tried this and now my pc idles at 34-44 degrees and GPU stays at 34 idle after doing some tweaks to the gpu as well. Now gaming my max is ~50-77 degrees and the clock speed stays at 5GHz in all cores now for some reason! So this is very nice
@jonjon382911 ай бұрын
good temps, nothing to worry about
@NaterNorris Жыл бұрын
I have a 7600x that I have the PBO offset set to 80 and the max temp at 80C, it draws 65w usually. Bought it when they were new and have been running it like this for almost a year now.
@Katowice_capsule6 ай бұрын
Hello ty for vid, did u touch anything on Ryzen Master?
@carlb641 Жыл бұрын
I’m using 7800x3d and able to do a -30 curve but my temps never go down. Even after applying the 85 PPt limit. Why’s that?
@cryonic. Жыл бұрын
the x3d chips are just gonna be hot no matter what. so unless youve got good water cooling or aggressively undervolt, expect high temps to be the norm
@bg3007 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@Pacifica_90911 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video i tried doing a negative 30 on my 7700xand it worked first try. I'm playing bf2042 and in 128 player maps i was getting a temp of 84-85 and now it stays around 70-73. In baldurs gate 3 and cyberpunk I'm seeing about a 15c drop as well. My cinebench 2024 score also went from 1062 to 1104. I'm using a peerless assassin for my cooler.
@joelkaufmann160111 ай бұрын
Did you copy all his settings? Or something else? I run the 7 7700x aswell and it gets very hot
@Pacifica_90911 ай бұрын
@@joelkaufmann1601 I just set the curve to negative 30 like he did and that's it. I tried setting it to eco mode but it caused noticable fps drop in bf2042 conquest 128 player
@Seriouslydave25 күн бұрын
Ryzen r7-7840hs here mini pc, first week it would crash to black screen, then i set he fans to a more agressive curve, its still high 80's but not tripping anymore, still dont hear the full fans until it goes above 85 might go more agressive. Its brand new so not a dust problem yet. Temps jump around a lot though 70, 60, 40, 60, 50, 70 every second.
@AliGamingTikTok11 ай бұрын
i dont have pression boost overdrive on my a620m s2h board please help ?
@The_Superconsole8 күн бұрын
how can u fix the high idle temps. im experiencing that and is about the same as ur idle temps
@jjimikohn4684 Жыл бұрын
Not until I was 49 in 2007 did I finally Cave in and bought my first Acer laptop with Vista preinstalled and the books I read. At that time I was inundated with PC Nerds insisting XP was better and even into when Windows 7 first came out. That being said, Does start menu x include a windows 11 default option? Thanks for right click context menu but again, how do I go back to the default context menu if I want to stay in practice? I always recommend people should watch your videos if they want to improve after purchasing Windows 11.
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@ThuGfunk Жыл бұрын
I have a 7800X3D and a NZXT Kraken 360 Elite aio cooler. Using stock thermal paste that came on the aio, my temps are 40-50 idle, and 45-65 while gaming. Under a hour stress test in OCCT at 100% load, highest temp I saw on the CPU was 78C. Is this considered good?
@austinrey4284 Жыл бұрын
Good temps
@bluesguitarg9 ай бұрын
Were these temps with stock settings or after applying the changes shown in the video?
@clave20499 ай бұрын
mine are about the same too and i have the exact same setup
@soumyosubhromukhopadhyay97274 ай бұрын
Ew kraken, money dump
@alphaomega196916 күн бұрын
Wow, what motherboard please?
@janseger1693 Жыл бұрын
Thanx again for your very informative video. May I ask? Does this work for the X570 motherboards also. i am currently using a amd ryzen 9 5950x. Lastly always good to save some on the electricity bills. Thanx.
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
I did one for x570 3800x
@Adreno23421 Жыл бұрын
145w to 87w, or 66% more power consumption for only 3,5% more points on cinebench. 100% worth controlling those temperatures. And most likely longer life.
@elvendragonhammer5433 Жыл бұрын
It's always better to run @ lower temps if no other reason than to increase component longevity. Another thing you can do is use either AMD's toolkit or maybe your motherboards software ex: (MSI or evga) to under-volt the CPU/APU you can lookup online what safe voltages are & this will also decrease your temps while usually improving your base & boost clock speeds & will also prevent thermal throttling. If your unsure both Gamer's Nexus & Linus Tech Tips have extensive vids oh the how & why this works with both benchmarks & real-world application testing as proof.
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@MrC8025 Жыл бұрын
i don't know. If it's design to run at 95c 24/7, I don't really care about the temps. I'll use co to get higher clocks but that's about it. Most people like myself will hardly ever full load anyway. It'always in the 50s during my gaming sessions.
@Mike__B Жыл бұрын
@@MrC8025 I think the problem that we've been seeing with "ASUS burning out AMD chips" though is exactly related to this issue. The way AMD designed it is that if it's not going past 95c then we can give it more power, so the chipset itself may be designed to run at 95c however that says nothing about the interface with the LGA and the chipset. But you're right, if you don't use 100% load then the CPU isn't getting that high, and that benchmarking tools like this are designed specifically to run it at 100% load, however there are the case where it may get to full load and if it doesn't get as hot as you want you could get arcing occurring which again fries your chip and MB. If your primary usage is gaming, there's no real negative to just throwing it into eco mode and not have to ever worry about the power issue.
@KB-1976 Жыл бұрын
@@Britec09then why buy a 7950x. Buy a 7800xt and over clock it. Why are you even scared or worried ?
@KB-1976 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike__Band wrong. ASUS x670e-e since November been fine . I bought another one.
@gecsus6 ай бұрын
I always reduce the voltage on my Ryzen processors. It makes little difference in day to day business operations. I do Audio, video editing and I also am a programmer and gamer.
@Triro Жыл бұрын
Using Ryzen masters curve optimizer legit lowered my temps by 15 degrees in some all core load situations. It does take about a hour, but it will give you the best undervolt for each core, if you set it to do per core.
@borjairanzo6113 Жыл бұрын
Hi, can you explain how to do this? I'm a newbie and couldn't find the option in Ryzen Master to calculate the optimal undervolt parameters. Also, once I have these parameters, where do I need to establish them? In the BIOS? Thank you in advance :)
@Triro Жыл бұрын
@@borjairanzo6113 Just switch to simple mode, and select per core, and then click optimize. It'll take a hour or two. But it will offer you some uplift, depends how well you won the silicone lotterly. For me I got a really good undervolt.
@lepistes16 ай бұрын
My 7700x cant handle -30 it is almost stable at -10 and my temps are not going down it is still 75 degrees at desktop and at cinebench i get 18300 point with 95 degrees with -10
@NightScares.9 ай бұрын
Hello there i have a 7800x3d and on Tcl and Cpu die am getting on maximum 89temps sometimes and the current is 79 and 76 when i play pubg on 2k is it good i also undervolt the cpu
@Veganarchy-Zetetic9 ай бұрын
If you want lower temps limit the PPT to 60W. I dropped another 20 degrees by doing this with only 1-2% performance loss.
@psour335 ай бұрын
I went on full PBO manual and set up -30 on the 2 preferred cores (noted them in Ryzen master) and -22 on all other cores because full all cores -30 was not full stable. You can also limit downwards vour VDD Core voltage to ease on the CPU (1.20v instead of 1.3v auto) on my silicon piece. Thank's.
@neimei54815 ай бұрын
It worked thank u, but my cinebench points are lower at max my cpu is at 95C but only get 17900 points and after I did the settings at 70-85C I only get 16900 points. I’m using 7700x as well
@duladrop42523 ай бұрын
Your walkthrough probably didn't update the curve optimizer part because you keep changing the precision boost Overdrive value.
@leone806511 ай бұрын
I've changed my settings of my 7600X exactly to the example in this video, and it's stable after 2 hours of prime95. The temp went from 95 to 60 under stress, but the CPU benchmark score went from 10.5k to 8.5k. Which setting does affect performance the most? I want to crank up the performance to around stock level..
@Buggerall83 Жыл бұрын
On the curve optimiser, you said some people can get away with - 30. When I run ryzen master curve optimiser it sets mine to - 50 after it's 30min test. I get a max boost just shy of 5.5ghz. Is that good? This is my first build since the fx days. I have a 7600x currently.
@Darktophat_105 ай бұрын
7800 x3d cooling under an air Assassin 120 cooler E, single fan. On a cool morning such as today 8/3/2024 sits at 47.5 C, a hot afternoon (95) sits at 51.3 C - 55.4 C. Seems normal under air cooled set up.
@SilentStorm4015 күн бұрын
can i apply these settings to my msi motherboard and be fine ?
@firesticksunlimited524 Жыл бұрын
I always watch your videos, how the hell did they consider your last video a violation???
@yonu5983 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised that the video was taken down. Very disappointment with KZbin for this action.
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
You're guess is as good as mine and the offending channels are still up
@Britec09 Жыл бұрын
me too
@d8l8355 ай бұрын
Definitely shaved a few degrees on average on my 7800x3d. Thanks
@Kapono5150 Жыл бұрын
Hey 👋 there, I have a question about changing settings in the BIOS as I’m using the same BIOS as you are with my Asus B650E. Ok, my question is, If I change ANY settings in the “AI Tweaker” section, will it Overrule Any settings I change in the “Advanced” section of the BIOS? Please let me know if you can, I’m tryin to learn here.
@genergia11 ай бұрын
SP116 is great for a 7700X
@gabriel.hongkong Жыл бұрын
I'm running a Ryzen 5 7600x. I'm just using a humble Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE. Never passes 90C when running Cinebench.
@jaxzor9 күн бұрын
i had a x670 Aorus Elite AX and changed for a x870 Tomahawk all went fine till the BIOS update, after the BIOS update i was hiting 60-65 celsius in idle and simply don't understand why cause before the BIOS update the 7800X3D was idl`ing at 40-45 celsius. any idea wth is going on?
@hughboi Жыл бұрын
Whats the difference between doing this and using Eco Mode. Based on searches ive seen good things about eco mode
@bklyn5319 ай бұрын
No more screaming fans after making these changes in the bios. With my 7900x I set it to curve 25 since 30 crashed it on boot up. Thermal limit set to 85. Cinebench score is currently 26241 20 pass test multicore.
@TimboSlice0839 ай бұрын
Anyway, to get lower idle temperatures? I tried this, but the temperature seem to be the same.
@Chaotic8186 ай бұрын
At that point you need to check the rpm for your fan, 7 and 9 run very hot so if you had a cooler before you upgraded per say, yea you gotta upgrade the fan
@ProDigit80 Жыл бұрын
Easiest is to bump the amps and wattage in the eco from 65W to 80W, for a total of 105W (vs the stock 105W with a real usage of ~150W). The temp limit sometimes don't work, and still will allow the CPU to do above the set limit.
@EC88838 Жыл бұрын
@ProDigit80 how would you do this? Eco mode is 65 but then how do you change it to 80
@Darkknight903510 ай бұрын
i was thinking the idle temps would drop to 30s as i see in other 7000 series videos but it doesnt....
@SelfproclaimedDCSdebriefer27 күн бұрын
Innocent question… If the AMD specifications indicate that higher temperatures are acceptable (and wont damage anything) and you are water cooling-where the heat is expelled from the radiator at the periphery of your case; whats the advantage here? I'm running a 5800X3D, which gets hot but its not causing me any problems. I'm water cooling so the rest of my system and case temperatures are fine with quiet fan speeds and I've not yet seen the water loop temperature above 32C (and that was after relentless Cinebench R23 runs).
@cemlat8 күн бұрын
Amd says better cooling means more performance but means absolute nothing for your cpu life.This thing made on purpose to run at 95. It wants to reach that tempature. The only downside in this would be higher electricy bill.
@XASMATV. Жыл бұрын
do i need to do this? on idle i get 60c and right now watching your video it gets 70c. is that normal? ( ryzen 7 7700x )
@Tas3-i8g10 ай бұрын
Thats pretty hot
@TheRealName77 ай бұрын
Its not enforcing the ppt limit for me i set it same as you and mine still reaching 125 watts
@mazz85- Жыл бұрын
I am hoping for The Division 3 or similar, then i am gonna do this undervolting thingy, but for now Ryzen is my editing rig, couse they do this thing. Kinda like them open world ones, cba with Battlefield or COD. Fallout titles are more my taste. I have Intel i5 9400 for older games, works perfectly fine. Think the newer Intel chips have heating issues too ?
@Mind694206 ай бұрын
Tried this on my 7800x3d but it was moving slow on basic tasks like login, opening programs, start menu functions.
@Mighty_Mik3 Жыл бұрын
Great info but does the same settings apply to R9 series?
@Tas3-i8g10 ай бұрын
Yep , this works for both the 5000 and 7000 generations of all ryzen processors
@jay86109 ай бұрын
So basically my pc on amd software is says temp at 0 but on my nzxt software it says 45 which is idle how do I fix this issue
@andigamelife Жыл бұрын
if I follow this setting, will my PC performance also decrease?