Undervolt your Ryzen 7 9800X3D for more FPS and Lower Temperature!

[@Artiparti1884]

Thx. Got -35 stable at +200 PBO. I get 5.415 ghz stable at 1.135v. The ram also works fine with your settings. I saw a lot of Tutorials for the new 9800x3d. But your Video is on Point. Is my First amd System. Thx for your know how!

[@svolos1971]

In my experience with the 9800X3D thus far, the best real-life (actual gaming at 2K not benchmarks at 1080P) route is tightening your RAM's secondary timings coupled with a simple PBO at -20 and boost override at 200 with scalar at 1. Set it and forget it kind of deal. Thank you for all your work.

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

Is it stable though? Any crashes on idle and gaming?

[@svolos1971]

@@BravoSixGoingDark ran a 12-hour torture test on Prime95 with no issues. Also threw in an OCCT CPU+RAM test (1 hr) no issues.

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

@@svolos1971 Thanks!

[@RedSliceGaming34]

What motherboard? You think that'd work with a MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk?

[@RedSliceGaming34]

Also what cooler? I'm on a Noctua NH-D15

[@ChameleonTuning]

Great video, straight to the point. I can verify with 2 weeks of research and having this cpu, everything he says is spot on. 👍🏽

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Thanks a lot, really :) also I genuinely appreciate your help in the comments

[@HadianHendrayana]

you should show the benchmark results before and after to make it clearer

[@ImWateringPSUs]

I see where you’re coming from but with three different presets the video would be waaay too long😔

[@Cypriotkiller]

​@@ImWateringPSUsI want benchmarks too! 🎉

[@heliopkad]

@@ImWateringPSUs even better...i much rather watch 1 hour video and be 100% sure that noting will go wrong than 10 min video and get fucked because i still have doubts...

[@tundranocaps]

@@ImWateringPSUs Just have the results on screen, even in an excel spread-sheet. Don't need to show the benchmark itself.

[@HgPiRaT]

I copied it 1 to 1 and he's right, the test before and after are clear.👍 Ty

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Thanks a lot for the feedback :)

[@PerfodDk]

Tak!

[@payne867]

I recently bought a 9800XDC and have a Thermal Prism 360. My temps were around 40°C at idle and 75°C under full load. All I did was change the curve optimizer to 30, and now my temps have dropped to 38°C at idle and 55-60°C under full load. I didn’t expect results like this. Thanks, Sub, and thumbs up!

[@francescobattistoni20]

I'm new to this whole thing, so what do you mean "set fan curve to 30"? All i have is a manual fan curve where I move the does manually for %fan/temp

[@payne867]

@@francescobattistoni20 Sorry i meant the curve optimizer.

[@mariolp2999]

Thanks man.. subscribed... the best straight to the point undervolt tutorials...lol

[@ImWateringPSUs]

I’m the one thanking you, really :))

[@nitefly99]

Your videos are always great. Straight to the point. I recommend anyone that likes this vid to watch the GPU undervolting vids 👍

[@ImWateringPSUs]

You’re making me smile, thanks a lot :)

[@jonahjameson272]

Trying my Luck, already subscribed thanks for the video!

[@MIBxSpartan]

Got my Curve optimizer at negative 45 and +200 Mhz its been rock solid.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Woah that’s a gold chip right there!

[@anderotaola7515]

@@MIBxSpartan no scalar? Does it ring prime95, ycruncher, r23? What about ram tests like aida? What peak heat is generated at max load?

[@MIBxSpartan]

@@anderotaola7515 scalar X10. Ran Cinebench and a Time Spy Stress test.

[@Chytin]

Thanks bro. This is the video we all have been waiting for. I don't own a 9800x3d but am looking for reasons to upgrade my 7950x. The fomo is real.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Glad I could help :) If you’re gaming at high refresh rate it may be worth it, but I have a video coming out in two days where I discuss why most people are not reaaally gonna see a big jump in performance :)

[@Chytin]

@ I like to game in 4K120 with max settings but I can tolerate 4K60 as well. Below that, it is not for me. I do have a RTX 4090 but it is always bottlenecked at 4K. I am probably fine with the 7950X for now but anyhow, looking forward to that video.

[@johngonzalez9621]

@@ImWateringPSUsdo you think the 9950x3d will be faster than 9800x3d at gaming?

[@Ericdanman2]

​@johngonzalez9621 i could be, from the specs the 9950x3d looks like it will have 3d v cache on both ccds, this would solve the issues the 7900x3d/7950x3d are having in windows with the core parking. But if amd didn't work closely with windows to get the cpu performing correctly we could still see single processes being split between both ccds causing latency issues and tanking gaming performance. But realistically, most games don't use but a couple of cores, so having 16 cores with 3dv cache wouldn't be that much of advantage over 8. The two 6 core ccds on the 9900x3d might run cooler allowing them to clock higher but who knows.

[@duca31]

I don't have this cpu, but if i ever have i will definitely come back to this video. Because on my ryzen 5 3600 and gtx 1660s I lowered the voltage following your instructions and it works amazing. You have a like from me and thank you. 😁

[@ImWateringPSUs]

You’re way too kind, really! Thanks a lot :)

[@haeihaeihaei]

Thank you for the video. Since I built an SFF build the underclocking helps a lot 👍

[@OctagonalSquare]

Was finally able to snag a 9800x3D the other day after missing multiple restocks. Sadly my motherboard shipping got delayed so I’ll just have it sitting there waiting to be installed for a bit haha. But I’ll definitely be coming back to this once it’s all set up and running

[@blueferrari397]

I personally wouldn't undervolt a CPU and with the 9800 X3D it already runs quite efficiently. Undervolting a high-end GPU is another story, and this will make both the GPU and CPU run more efficiently with less power and heat. Great video though.

[@zigziar]

Thanks, just saying it would have been nice to see a before and after benchmark for the undervolt and overclock, or even just a HWInfo showing package power etc.

[@Nick-zc2yu]

Thanks first time undervaluing and this worked well

[@francescobattistoni20]

Solid, going to just -20 has improved temperatures in cinebench r23 from 85c to 75c

[@friedmule5403]

I like your video, maybe you should have explained all the things you changed and what they do, it'll have made it easier to understand why it was a good thing to change that setting. :-)

[@ImWateringPSUs]

I can make a more in-depth version if you guys want it, it’s gonna be over 30min though

[@friedmule5403]

@@ImWateringPSUs I am an old a**hole, so I love long videos, so I may be the wrong to ask:-) I think your quality of video, easily make it very plausible that many will enjoy 30-45 minutes, but then again, maybe not all love quality:-)

[@jogakhichuri1821]

@@ImWateringPSUs please do that, newer people like me will benifit a lot from that kind of video!

[@Halo2Trigate]

@@ImWateringPSUs as someone who is a noob at everything PC related… I found your guide very clear and concise to follow compared to many other videos I’ve binged. It was easy for me to understand. Thank you!

[@PerfodDk]

Did set my Vcore to 1.025 and 5000Mhz , and curve optimizer minus 50 , works fine 1 hour in cinebench and no fault

[@psybangas11]

Dude you were right about undervolting my RTX 4090 properly so I liked this video and subscribed.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Thanks a LOT! Really :))

[@kingdomheartsfan3002]

I did the safe overclock you showed at the end

[@PerfodDk]

I did suport you with a "super thanks" ,, nice video, really helpfull

[@lucky_lukie5444]

Very helpful video, but could be better edited and chaptered for easier understanding :) currently at -30 pbo, with 52 ratio and 1.175 voltage and the effect is -12 C degree on cinebench (from max 84 C to 72 C); will be testing soon in games :)

[@WaitKlaaw]

Followed the overclock the exact same managed to get 5390 and no more than 60 degrees while playing cod and only 45 idle before this using pbo enabled i was getting 5200 with 80 degrees made a massive difference

[@jedimaster1541]

5000 at 1.050V is running perfectly 9800x3d,thanks ! Btw it’s only 42c in battlefield.

[@ITSMTAKANJITOOU]

I tried the static clock your stated 54.50 with 1.250 my temps where 105c and I have a 360m aio at 3200 pump speed and my room is cold as well. Do you benchmark your settings?to ensure true stability

[@kingdomheartsfan3002]

I have a peerless assassin 120 se I did the same and get 70c max in stress test is your did you forget to remove sticker or is your aio defective as that is possible is aio cooling water maybe bad.

[@maxelito7590]

So you keep the first step with the ”negative -20” when you do the second step with the core voltage or do i wanna do the first step and then also the second one? Do they save over each other or going back to default? My game and windows crash when playing some games with the latest BiOS 3057 version, guessing undervolt with a slightly lower mhz might help

[@1337_h0an]

Did a pure undervolt with -30 and it runs still perfect. In CB R23 it holds it temps till 66-68° which is insane, coming from an i9 13900hx 😂🫣 Well done AMD! Edit: did negative 45 and still Runs Like a Beast 😍 For reference: it ran CB2077 Before: 55-65° Now: 45°C what the hell AMD?!

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Maaaan if you got -45 stable you’ve got a GOLDEN chip right there :)) great stuff!

[@1337_h0an]

@@ImWateringPSUs so far no Problems - but the different is: i dont do benchmark-stuff - only playing CB2077 for reference or other heavy games in 2k maxed out. no prloblems at all :-) Thank you mate! Really underrated channel!

[@infantryL0RD]

I'm trying to go as deep down the rabbit hole I can now that I got my own 9800x3d, having never OC'd before. I wonder if we are entering a new era with this cpu.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Haha you’ve got a lot to play around with! Just to master the static option it’s gonna take a while if you reaaaally wanna push it to the max 50Mhz you can in OC, and let’s not mention PBO tuning and RAM tuning :) It’s gonna be a lot of fun if, like me, you like this kind of stuff

[@JohnxYiu]

Sorry I'm new to undervolting+overclocking, I wonder if I can use both of you methods the same time? Like the first half of the video turn on PBO and the Curve Optimizer with the later method of setting a fixed core clock with static voltage offset

[@AdamKafei]

The bios will allow you to set that but what you're likely to get out of it is Multiplier+200Mhz at Voltage-Curve Optimiser Offset which rather defeats the point of the curve optimiser. I would suggest downloading OCCT, push the multiplier up in steps of 2 from your existing maximum clock and running OCCT's CPU test for an hour and repeat until you get errors, then you can either bump voltage in increments of 0.05 until you hit 1.3v (the highest voltage I remember being safe) or you resolve the errors or bring the multiplier back down to a stable setting. Once you run out of frequency potential you want to walk your voltage back down to the lowest stable value to keep the thermals as low as possible. Or you can grab cinebench and just walk Curve Optimiser down in steps of 5 until you either run into stability issues or cinebench scores stop increasing - If you get score regressions outside of run to run variance then you've gone too far. The advantage of just setting PBO +200 and Curve Optimiser is that you get the performance and maintain the idle behaviour where it drops clocks or turns off unused cores, but you get less control than setting multiplier and voltage manually, conversely some boards will use a manual multiplier and voltage as fixed stats and override the previously mentioned idle behaviour.

[@SkylerWallaceUS]

Don't use static voltage and fixed core clock. It's an obsolete method for normal use cases when PBO exists. Set PBO negative curve optimizer, enable advanced PBO power limits, set the PPT limit to 100W if you want more power efficiency, set to 170W if you want more performance. Easy as that.

[@dragbug100]

I know there is good info there and the people that are very familiar with this probably had zero issues following however, you were so all over the place (do this, don't do this, maybe do this ......??????) I can't tell what is good vs bad and if everything you did in the video is meant to be done together or they are different ways of doing the same thing. It would have been nice if you broke it up into segments showing the different things you did and if they can or should be done together.

[@ЙорданЙорданов-г8в]

I do CPU Offset voltage - 0.0350V и Core Optimizer -15. The temperatures dropped 8-9 Celsius in Cinebench R23. I'm stabel with 1.160V with all cores 5200 Mhz.

[@gregbrown9647]

You explained that procedure great....If you were to just do a video with all the safe settings and not explain variations that would end up being a guide for many people.. for example if you said set voltage to 1.1 period, then set negative offset to 20 period set memory profile period..every safe setting to undervolt ..then overclock that would be the best.. a video under two mins without any more info . You will get more people copying those settings and more comments..Great Job sir✨🌟⭐🏆💯

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Thanks a lot, that would be a good way to do it, splitting it into one video for people who want max efficiency and one for who wants to push it more :) I tried to do it all into a single video and I hope it’s not too confusing :)

[@Ziomal645]

At what point of the video I can stop if I simply just want lower temps, getting 5.2 on load, same performance, that's it? On everything auto it's good, but temps are something too high, 60 in game but when something loads it can go to 95 for a sec. I also have MSI board, but x670e gaming wifi

[@Ziomal645]

Also confused as to why pbo can be found in settings, in advanced, amd over locking but also in oc tab in AMD over locking

[@ResetXPDR]

@@Ziomal645 I would just enable PBO and set core offset to -30. Should run a lot cooler and -30 should be stable. If not, as suggested in the video, try -20.

[@Ziomal645]

@@ResetXPDR You recommend this through PBO curve optimizer as on video 3:12 ?

[@lovie74]

I do think you should talk about pushing ram aswell with a video in the future maybe. From what I heard a lot of people can hit 6200mhz 1:1 with this cpu and asrock mobos like the steel legend, nova(wish it was in stock), and taichi. I honestly don't know if the benefits of hitting 1:1 mclk=uclk with 6200mhz or 6400mhz overclock is even worth it though due to if it would deteriorate the ram overtime or smth. I just know with the 9800x3d I saw a lot of people somehow hitting 2133 or 2200(idk what the setting was called for the mclk=uclk for higher frequncies for 1:1 and if it was worth the little bit better fps). Personally for me whenever my cpu ships and I decide on what motherboard to get(i hope the nova gets restocked or taichi goes on sale) I'll get an asrock one with cl28 ram 6000mhz and probably follow your guide. Since your saying 10x scaler is useless like how everyone is recommending AND I MEAN EVERYONE. So many channels besides yours and people online are saying to do it with negative 40 curve so

[@xblur17]

Idk if it's even worth it. I do this test in Overwatch where I go into a custom game with bots, activate an ultimate with Soldier 76, and whip my mouse around. My 7800x3d would drop from 600fps down to visible lows of 440-470fps. The 9800x3d with just CO -25 +200 stays at a locked 600fps in this same test. My RAM timings and everything else remained identical. It's magical.

[@Mr.DezNuz]

Iam using the 9800x3d with an asus crosshair x870e motherboard. I used the exact same settings u were usind on ur motherboard. somehow it dindt worked for me cod was not launching and my whole system got frozen dont know why man 😒

[@robertrusek6068]

Great video! What are your idle temps? My cpu idle temps are between 42 ~ 45 with a water temp of 28 running at 5.3Ghz. I am using custom hydra x loop with a 360 and 240 rads.

[@Ian-Omega]

That’s all dependent on the ambient temperature of the room.

[@robertrusek6068]

Room temp is 21 ~ 22.

[@crimsonhoplite3445]

Same temps here with Arctic Freeze III 360 AIO. I thought I messed up the seating of the water cooler but I guess that's what it does.

[@louiienation8497]

I don’t see any Asus ROG tutorials nowadays. The bios aren’t really similar. They’re all very different and have things under different names.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

The cool thing about AMD is that once you go in the “AMD Overclocking” tab in the advanced settings, motherboard makers are REQUIRED to use the same names :) Just the options in the AI Tweaker/Extreme Tweaker have different names! But I’ll do an Asus tutorial too

[@TrucLa-u5z]

Isn’t 1.225 too low for a clock speed of 54.5? Will this degrade the cpu or is the worst case just crashing? I’ve seen people recommend 1.28 or higher for a clock speed of 53 or higher

[@Swatmat]

Lower power will never cause faster degradation, what causes degradation (which always happens btw, its just the rate of it)

[@wopwops0482]

The thock of that keyboard.... Which keyboard is that?

[@pullmeifinger]

Hi thanks for this video, very easy for a novice like me to understand. So I've applied the undervoltage you recommend using at the start of your tutorial. Working perfectly, lower temps same performance innstress tests, love it!I am now looking at getting another 200mhz on the cores. So do I leave the under volt settings the same? I mean leave that as is and move to the oc part? Thanks 😊

[@elliottcurrie230]

I had the same question, did you get an answer?

[@dennisludolf]

what is the best powerplan for the 9800x3d ? Balanced or high performance

[@GodyArtDesign]

dude can you tell us, wich Motherboard ist best in effizient and latancy?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

If you have unlimited budget, get an Asus Maximus and you won’t be disappointed

[@ZomgZomg007]

overclocking FCLK only makes sense for SKU with more than 1CCD (7900x, 7950x) performance-wise. If you only have 1 CCD, making the computer potentially unstable for negligible difference in performance is not worth it. You won't even see that 2067 improvement in gaming scenarios, unless your running ycruncher all day.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Ah, you’re very much right saying that the FCLK itself make a tiny difference! But it’s not gonna unstable, ever, with such a tiny uplift either :) so the way I see it is free performance and it’s gonna come in handy for RAM tuning

[@ZomgZomg007]

@@ImWateringPSUs I guess while ure here, i was wondering. On Gigabyte there is that PBO Enhancement, the samething you showed where you select the target temp and the levels. From my understanding level 1 - 10, level 2 -20/etc on the all core curve. How is this different to the pbo o/c area where you sellect -30 on the all core? Also does it overlap?

[@Dachopper_]

Thanks man, like and subscribed. Instructions very clear but I’m still confused - to static undervolt or OC? Which is best?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Thanks a lot! It’s very subjective, personally I prefer a static setting due to it having the lowest possible latency and max snappiness, but the dynamic one keeps the original behaviour of the CPU so most people are gonna prefer the dynamic tbh

[@KWTD100]

Why you dont have any optimized platform profile enabled for ram?

[@KWTD100]

also arent you on old bios or something? there is no x3d gaming mode switch in your settings

[@e92justin]

Can i safely pull off a -20 with pbo 200 at scalar 1x if i only have 1 8-pin cpu cable? Really not trying to buy another cable and tear my cpu apart again.

[@Thuggychan]

Should be fine. Only time you NEED both 8-pins is if you're doing really high overclocking with exotic cooling. And the whole point of the negative offset is to consume less power, not more.

[@trancepilot5962]

You got a sub! Well done...

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Thanks a lot! Really :)

[@Dachopper_]

Please help - why do I have Ai tweaker in BIOS but no extreme tweaker menu? How can I change this?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

It’s normal! It means you have an ASUS motherboard :) You will find all the settings you need in the AI tweaker

[@vinyl2k8]

I followed the same setup as in the video, second option and I have some random BSOD 9800x3d / x870 tomahawk / gskill trident z5 neo 6000 cl30 / 4080 super Last bsod seems to be caused by STORE_DATA_STRUCTURE_CORRUPTION Is it the RAM tweak that is not good?

[@vinyl2k8]

Nevermind it was a problem with WD ssd, new firmware update fixed bsod

[@mac_quack5618]

once i get my new graphics card and put the system in a new case im going to come back to this video and OVERCLOCK!!!!

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Let us know how it goes :))

[@theexecutioner2664]

I think you should have had a wider discussion about what CO undervolting does, both for high load and idle workloads, along with how to properly test stability BEFORE suggesting people drop off and give the video a like… simply suggesting -20 CO is going to be stable is simply not always going to be true. More discussion on the curve optimiser and how it works need to be had; the CPU quality and motherboard quality has a significant impact on the negative offset that you can safely reach, and suggesting everyone will be able to safely go -20 is not very well thought out. For example, on my 7800x3d, I have 6 cores on -30, one core on -25 and the final on 0. Yep - 0. Until I dialled that in over a VERY long stability run, I’d get instability … not at load mind you, but rather at core idle, or when a core lost load and dropped to low voltage… for me, my two cores that couldn’t idle at -30 all core (or even at -5 for that one shitty core) were causing crashes. Summary: do better - don’t try to sugar coat the ease by which even the simplest tools can help or hinder.

[@JPmisc-cf5fj]

Honestly I get your point more details are always better just look at gamersnexus with how much research they do into things they talk about. But for smaller youtubers a smaller video with less technical details works better. It would be nice if he could just link videos or articles to learn more about it though.

[@theexecutioner2664]

@ I’m not suggesting that it’s important to go in GN level depth… but to suggest Curve Optimiser at any negative offset is all you need for better performance, without a brief discussion on stability issues that can arise from it… literally suggesting ‘if that’s all you’re after you can click off now’ without care to expose possible stability problems… THAT’S my concern. It’s not good advice… period.

[@floisindahousee]

YOU'RE THE GOAT I GOT MINE TODAY

[@floisindahousee]

freshly installed just now :D

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Ahahahah I’m really happy I got the video out just in time :)

[@gringuz7710]

Hello, i have x870e carbon and 9800x3d. From my test i assume the problem is the bios cuz i use the stock, i dont wanna try beta and wait stable one. Seems to be such problems on TDP motherboard if i let decide for me. Max i can reach with CO in PBO is -20 curve +200 override 1x scalar, and in some run on cinebench my 9800 reach 84* around 23600 scoore. I test a few things only for fun cuz in game with this set the cpu reach constant 5.415 (IDK WHY NOT 5.425). I try to set manually TDP like you say and a really good way for me with this idiot bios is to set: 105w(142 110 170) and now the cpu for magic is stable with -30 curve. The constant boost on 5.415 is better and i reach 24200 on cinebench r23 with 78* max. I hope is usefull for someone. What you guys think about it? Maybe with stable improved bios is better?

[@rubenn_037]

Thank you!!!

[@robertmihai717]

did the PPT Limito to 85 and the -30 on all cores, temps are better but I am getting random frame drops in games...could this be the issue?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Try removing the undervolt and check. If the issue goes away, it means your undervolt is slightly unstable. You may want to try -25 :)

[@N3KO_79]

I am unlucky with my 9800X3D... the maximal undervolting i can reach with the negative offset is -20, if i go to -22 or more i have BSOD, freezing and instability... do i something wrong?

[@Raulster]

Great video, thanks man. Mine on stock settins runs at 45-55 idle and up to 75 in games, I’m using 360 mm aio and the mobo is asus rog strix x870 a gaming wifi. Are this temps normal ? I’ve had i9 13900k before and he was lower in temps than 9800x3d

[@iSammax]

55 idle sounds kind of high, should be around 35-45, check your aio mounting and paste

[@matt3franc365]

Same, mine is at 51 in idle and 70 in games, which motherboard do you have?

[@medovk]

i have a weird situation with my 9800x3d, at negative 30 and +200 it can run cinebench r24 all day long (all cores under load around 5400) but it crashes with r23. what could be the issue?

[@DB-47]

You are not stable and primarily Cinebench is not a stability test. For stability there are tools like OCCT, Y-Cruncher, TestMem 5 or Prime 95. I can guarantee you that if you crash in CB R24, you will crash in few seconds in Y-Cruncher

[@medovk]

@DB-47 agree, but I was testing pretty much for gaming stability. Weirdly enough these settings ran occt and prime95 blend fine. I wonder what game even stresses the system like cinebench runs do... my 7800x3d was way more sensitive for instability in gaming, tried neg40 with 9800x3d and not a single game crashed.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Different instructions sets/stability conditions as the other guy said! It means -30 is too much for your chip overall

[@DelineatedMercy]

I want to enable xmp on my x870 aorus board but I have talk to some people with the same board and they said enabling xmp makes the VCORE soc go up to 1.4v. Do you think it would be fine for me to change vcore soc setting to standard? I have 9800x3d. Trident z royal 6000 cl28 32gb.

[@DB-47]

SoC voltage issues have been already fixed at least one year ago. Now you cannot even exceed 1.3 V SoC even if you attempt manually dialing in larger value.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

I can confirm, it’s not an issue really :)

[@DelineatedMercy]

@@ImWateringPSUshi, sorry to bother you good sir. If you dont mind me asking. What would you suggest me to put in my bios for vcore SoC. I have it set to normal right now and its around 1.26v at the max in hwinfo. I have no overclock or undervolt. Just expo enabled. I just dont want to mess up the chip trying to undervolt or overclock. Any help is truly appreciated.

[@JGINYUE]

Can you test it with the JGINYUE B650M?🤔

[@ImWateringPSUs]

I’ll do it!

[@kladzen]

running with -40, +200, 1x scalar, 85w ppt limit, and 85temp limit - 240mm aio, with slim fans

[@quantino1611]

-20, 200, 95W, 54, 1.250v, 1.3v crashes. Any idea why?

[@Nintenboy01]

Does MSI still have "Kombo Strike" for AM5? That was great for the 5800X3D

[@ImWateringPSUs]

They got rid of it! After all, it was just an automatic undervolt feature :) Manual UV is always better of course, but it’s nice to see that motherboards manufacturers went from automatic Overclock to automatic Undervolt ahaha

[@itruuth]

Wondering if having a 2070 super would be like (numbers-wise)

[@TrucLa-u5z]

So what is the absolute best bios settings generally for best performance and latency without decreasing life span ?

[@ChameleonTuning]

Did you even watch the video!? 5000mhz to be super safe and 5200mhz to be around stock. There is no "life span" all this will last years. Nothing in this video is pushing any crazy limit that would endanger anything.

[@TrucLa-u5z]

@@ChameleonTuningokay but when we set these static overclocking settings do we put the dynamic ones at default ?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Thanks a lot for pointing it out to him my man :) And to answer yes, if you go the static route then you need to have the dynamic ones at default, that’s also said in the video!

[@TrucLa-u5z]

I apologize water ! First time ever doing this luckily I clarified. I set cpu all core 5.4 and voltage at 1.225

[@TrucLa-u5z]

@@ImWateringPSUsdo you still apply the -30 or -40 PBO in this case well?

[@gucky4717]

Mine has only average binning. FYI CO -30 crashes with my CPU. CO-20 on all cores. -10 for high and max clocks on the shaper. Everything else is stock. The CPU uses ~30W less in CBR23, Temps went down 16°C, points went up ~600 from ~22800 to 23465. Voltage is at 1.09V doing the multicore test. Stock it used ~145W and temps went upto 92°C with an Phantom Spirit cooler, the included paste might have been not so good. Instead of changing the ratio to 50, it might be better to use a negative boost override value of -200. That value cuts off the curve, so it uses less voltage at 5Ghz. Also using a fixed ratio breaks the boostcurve, since it always runs at a specific clockspeed/voltage. You will lose efficiency at low loads and idle.

[@leonfrancis3418]

Curve Shaper essentially got you the -30, but only at your higher freqs, which is likely what you needed for stability. That's pretty good to see it literally works as intended, in a day and age where many things don't.

[@DDX1944]

AsRock 620i, even with the newest bios, does not provide "advanced" PBO settings, just "Auto, Enabled, Disabled", is there another way to undervolt, like individually

[@randomgaming5332]

what do u expect it does not have the x670/x870 cipset to OC the CPU.

[@deluxebulls5939]

If we are doing the static option should we also do the minus 30 on curve optimizer?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Nope

[@rusty4512]

What about memory Timings/OC for 9800x3d? I follow your ram oc video with the 7800x3d and it improves a lot

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Yessir it’s the same :) Old video still applies if you’re aiming for around the 6000Mhz mark. The only difference would be if you wanna decouple your FCLK and run your RAM at 1:2 at over 8000Mhz, but personally I still prefer 6000Mhz with lower latency :)

[@IIPetite]

I’m very new to overclocking and I kind of got lost. So which one should I go with for the best performance?

[@TheOneGhost12]

Can upping cpu clock ratio damage cpu ? My default is set at 47 in bios ?

[@Ziomal645]

Why is amd overclocking and pbo in both settings and oc tabs?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Ahahah the reason is actually pretty cool: motherboard makers have their own designs, but AMD forced EVERY single bios to have the AMD Overclocking under the “advanced” tab to make the procedure the same for everybody. So most makers just doubled it lol

[@Fr4nkM001]

Hello, I’m new doing static OC for my new CPU 9800x3D of course, did you find the right Core Voltage for 5250 MHz???

[@ArdaSReal]

On my 7600x i can easily do pbo offsett by -40 but i found the sweetspot around 30-35. Does that make sense? Since you said more = better, but i found with -40 the temperatures were lower but so was the clockrate

[@gamebroskii438]

for the static overclock are we still doing -20 offset?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Nope, for the static only option we’re not touching PBO

[@itsruben2000]

I have a ROG motherboard but I can't find the settings he's talking about. Can someone help me?

[@randomgaming5332]

Is ok for the cpu to always be at 5200 and vcore 1.17v ?

[@SAVIARs]

So you are not touching SOC voltage for static OC?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Nope! That’s for RAM mostly

[@d8a_gg]

My cpu is running stable at 5450 and negative 40 out of the box basically. I just set xmp and asrock profile for cpu clock and that’s it. Haven’t had a single crash been using it for about a week now

[@ImWateringPSUs]

If the -40 is synthetic load stable you’ve gotten a great sample over there! But most of these 9800X3D are veeery well binned I’m seeing, so it’s not too surprising :)

[@agapebayno5056]

Yo bro I liked the video and subscribed already, I need help tho. I already did curve optimizer for all cores for 30 magnitude and it is working all good with temps are always at 50s when playing games, it gets to 60s when playing heavy cpu games but never 70. Now my question is, do I still need to make the max cpu boost clock overide to 200 positive and 1x for the scalar? Is this required to get more performance even if the curve optimizer negative 30 is already stable?

[@comradical]

Raising FCLK really isn't going to give you too too much anyways, but I will wager a guess that most systems can probably run 3100 UCLK (MCLK=UCLK, DRAM speed 6200), probably without adjusting power (VSOC is 1.3V by default? even a bad UMC should be able to do 3000@1.2V), then try FCLK 2100, that might require a bump in CL to like 32 to be stable on below average CPUs (UMC is always a dice roll), and probably set your tREFI to 50k, tRFC to 500, that shouldn't get your RAM to run too hot. Adjusting the secondary RAM timing, while it would give you some more performance, since XMP profiles can be really bad, just look at some of the tRRDS, tRRDL and tFAW values, but secondary timings, unfortunately, super depend on the actual memory and motherboard, and I don't know if you can really generalize it, Samsung, Micron and Hynix all seem to like slightly different values, but even those changes should help get some memory performance, as long as you have 1/2 way decent RAM (say a DDR 6000 CL30 kit).

[@apexravan9410]

please where is my ryzen 9 7900x3d undervolt video sir

[@ImWateringPSUs]

You’re right my man, it’s coming! Some technical difficulties and lots of videos coming out. The 7900X3D is the EXACT same as the 7950X3D to UV tho :3

[@apexravan9410]

@@ImWateringPSUs but still wait for your video

[@SkylerWallaceUS]

Static option isn't even worth sharing. Everyone should be using the PBO power limits to decrease PPT to 100W or similar. Static voltage is less efficient since your CPU is going to be running higher voltage when idle; you are getting rid of the entire voltage curve which allows it to run lower voltage when under lower loads.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Not really, in the static option you still have two frequencies: base and boost. So the CPU at idle is gonna draw the same :)

[@Accuaro]

What about curve shaper?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

No need to use it :)

[@zacharysmall6002]

Must be a setting I am missing somewhere. MSI x670e motherboard. CPU Ratio is unable to be turned off of auto. It is not greyed out, but won't let me change the value. EDIT: I am an idiot. You just have to type.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

I’m glad you found it, sorry I could not answer sooner!

[@zacharysmall6002]

@@ImWateringPSUs not worries. Thanks for the video! As a side note. 1.05 volts was not enough for me at cpu ratio of 50.

[@artlu12345]

should i let the CPPC settings be on auto or disable them?

[@matthewmarino2687]

Nice job, ty!

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Thanks a lot for watching!

[@NativeWarrior081]

I can only do 5.3GHz. Even at 5.4GHz with 1.25v, my CPU just wasn't stable.

[@itzloot__]

can i do the exact same with the ryzen 7 7800x3d that i got ?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

I have a dedicated video for that!

[@gamebroskii438]

Static option didnt work for me either. Had to go back to pbo.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Out of curiosity and to help others, what clock did you want to achieve? Efficient 5Ghz or 5.4Ghz aggressive one?

[@Kai_O_Cad]

I'm on ROG x870e Hero, I'll look for those settings 🎉🎉

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Let us know how it goes :) Great motherboard you got over there, especially for RAM!

[@Kai_O_Cad]

@ImWateringPSUs yes I'm running it EXPO tweaked profile 6000mt CL28, so far so good but i need to squeeze more cpu juice, hopefully i can hit 5.6ghz stable, now 5.4ghz stable no issues

[@deafno]

Keyboard model?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Epomaker P75! Great keyboard and I do recommend it, I have a video about it on the channel :)

[@GodyArtDesign]

i dont think this is good undervolting. -First u find good Ram setting. It dont need be extrem high. Extrem high will always take much more watts from motherboard and you lose power at cpu. - then you need stable but lower NB/SOC. Go down so much as you can if it stable, go a little bit up. This will save a little more Watts wich are free. - then you need find a sweet spot for your CPU in kind of Voltage and Ghz. It dont need always be 5000+. Maybe you can go very good with 4,7GHz and 0,950Voltage. You need do some test for it. -Example you find out that you can run with 0,960V 4,6GHz very stable, no Problems. Then u try to find CurveOptimizer. But never use all Core. Try take your time and find out the negative Number for every Core. With PBO2 in Windows Programm and a Benchmark like OCCT. If you have the perfect curve optimizer try to high up your GHz every time a little. Do same Test with benchmark and Gaming. -then you use manuell PTT Watt so he dont use to much energy in useless boost moments. This help much in undervolting. - At the end you can tweak a little bit with Voltage if u funny on it. But never change SOc Voltage anymore. Try to lower DDR or other stuff, and maybe Vcore at the ende only alittle. After this you dont, there is not more you can do. And dont use this +200mhz option... it dont help you really much in effenzient

[@chrirsch91]

Did you also undervolt a 7600X3d?

[@ImWateringPSUs]

Unfortunately that’s the only CPU I haven’t been able to get my hands on🥲

[@EarthianZero]

I paid more for Expo RAM instead of XMP… did I just waste money?

[@bfstudios9163]

Before I undervolt I need to find a 9800x3d first

[@tomasradnic8874]

no, we dont :( :( have been waiting since day one, seems like at least two more months of waiting are in store for me. fck my hobbies i guess.

[@ImWateringPSUs]

The availability issues are terrible right now, I also really dislike how scalpers are trying to make a profit on the CPU…

[@marcocassano3393]

fino al minuto 9 per settaggi migliori per me