Fixing Catalunya's stupid chicane

So, it's time for the Spanish Grand Prix at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, and that means racing on a track with a rubbish chicane. However, while we all love to complain about it, could we come up with a solution for it?
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[@_RM99]

I can't stress this enough, but I hope that Chinese rocket lands on that chicane

[@Blue_Pumpkin]

Lmfaoooo

[@anthonymolina7416]

Imagine it does 😂

[@No_One1231]

Lol

[@ronan1686]

Or the whole track lmao

[@AH-be6bu]

It'll happen just as Lewis spins off to bring out the red flags.

[@blufferfish0896]

cannot believe my suggestion to just drive through the sand onto the barrier wasn’t included

[@utkarsharyan]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3_WdmqujtiMiKs

[@3ormorecharactersmaybe5]

That's... funny and dark at the same time.

[@NevilleWearsPrada]

i hate sand

[@VARGON56]

@@NevilleWearsPrada it’s rough and course

[@RF1RS]

@@VARGON56 and it gets everywhere

[@stefandebeer9375]

Who's here after Spain offically confirmed the the chicane has been removed and the layout is now back to pre-2007 again?👀

[@Duggie4233]

Yes sir

[@MrKrewie]

idk i still think the track sucks but it sucks less i suppose

[@MrGranturismofan1]

Lets celebrate that now it is fixed! The old layout is back in 2023!

[@DennyDeliversYT]

Cataluyna chicane: _exists_ A McDonalds drive through: _also exist_ So then... *Please tell me the difference you see between them.......* *Thats what I thought.*

[@woodthomas14]

Insert _Corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture_ here.

[@sadieangelina]

@@woodthomas14 They're the same picture

[@kitsune2509]

you get food when yo go through the drive through the other just waste your time

[@VSR_Lennard]

One of them is bad the other one gives me burgers

[@cat_03tv]

Welllllllllllllllll... the one gives u food, the other one is doable with a higher speed (still, it's not good)

[@Naman.Khivsara]

Kids this what happens when you drink rich energy.... You make videos on 4 AM And also you swear a lot

[@galarxyy]

Not making videos at 4am :o

[@rogerhinman5427]

Bad Santa approves

[@JuanPablo-lt3us]

more like cocaine

[@RACECAR]

Nonsense, I did this alot in High school. Would explain why my sleep schedule was non-existant for a while...

[@mickoholland1]

Roundabout.

[@ringoferrer2343]

It was about damn time someone sends a 360° loop

[@pierre-alexandrel1720]

And there's already plenty of Sim work to do on Trackmania so it just makes sense.

[@alaeriia01]

How about a barrel roll into a banked turn?

[@thomas316]

We're forever hearing about how an F1 car could drive upside down, now lets see them do it.

[@jz5980]

That wasn’t a cave painting. That is the 5 consecutive hairpins of the Mt. Akina downhill - and I approve lol

[@LordSwagtron]

i mean, where's the difference, really? :^)

[@lincolndethomasis6602]

maybe mount akina should replace Spain and we can have 2 japanese GPs

[@chrismdb5686]

@@lincolndethomasis6602 Hell, throw Fuji on there and give em three while we're at it

[@lincolndethomasis6602]

@@chrismdb5686 I would be interested in that. Maybe then we can convince some of the Japanese manufactuurers like Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mazda and Suzuki to have their own Formula 1 teams

[@chrismdb5686]

@@lincolndethomasis6602 I don't ever see Toyota returning after how their last stint went, and Honda never commits, but I'd love to see it happen!

[@zachemorgan]

My dog does not like this video all the whistles have awoken her from her peaceful slumber and shes giving me death eyes now.

[@Blue_Pumpkin]

Cute ☺️ Pat her for meeee!

[@kaustubhsinha4923]

Show her any HAM BOT VER race shell be fast asleep again

[@KayJblue]

@@kaustubhsinha4923 Damn😂

[@BoleDaPole]

Give it a good smack and it should leave u alone 🐶🍗 Give a dog a bone, leave a dog alone, let a dog roam and it'll find its way home .

[@Wealth.Classroom]

😂😂😂

[@zephyrod7307]

“I find your lack of runoff area disturbing”

[@davester5234]

“Mazepin is clumsy as he is stupid”

[@MrKeksdose99]

IT FINALLY HAPPENED

[@Julian21008]

And they finally did it! They went back to the layout without the chicane!!!

[@alecmorgan5043]

Fix the Spanish GP by moving it elsewhere

[@alexnovak905]

Motorland Aragon could be a solid alternative tbh

[@Undivided_X]

@@alexnovak905 how about Ricardo Tormo?

[@ObviouslyKieran]

@@alexnovak905 That's just Paul Ricard with a few more turns...

[@RandomGuy37]

@@ObviouslyKieran The difference is that there's not really a sector that's extremely similar to Paul Ricard's sector 3, which is its biggest problem. First sector is close, but should still produce better racing than Paul Ricard's third sector.

[@Stanley-rq6vv]

@@Undivided_X That thing is too tight for MotoGP, let alone F1

[@SpeculativeConjecture]

Here after the original layout has been re-instated!

[@AwksWallflower]

I immediately came here too 😂 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Trundle_The_Great]

The Chicane is officially gone for 2023!!!

[@miljadragic7144]

Thank God! :)

[@amirpenkar947]

I'm team 'straighten the chicane out'

[@schizoidforjesus]

I'm team 'move it to Jerez ffs'

[@simoneburini4036]

@@schizoidforjesus Jerez could be even worse for F1 racing

[@azharfikri8446]

@@schizoidforjesus jerez is too tight for F1 cars nowadays..

[@Lioin]

I think you'd find that racing wouldn't be better for it. Possibly even worse. It's too hard to follow closely in high speed corners that require a lot of aero, what the chicane (as awful as it is) actually does is pile cars up a bit before the straight and make sure they can actually stay fairly close because the whole section requires a lot of mechanical grip. It's still hard to pass after the straight because corner 1 is too fasts which makes for a very small window to put in a breaking maneuver but while swapping the nasty chicane for "moar speedz" might make for more exciting shots of F1 cars on the limit it would not result in better racing.

[@Revtiva]

I'm from 'shrinken the cars' team. I wouldn't be if only there's no overtake at Monaco EPrix. Seriously, F1 cars are too big nowadays.

[@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance]

I think the increase in size of the car's chassis didn't help, either. When they had a smaller wheelbase, the races were actually pretty good (whether you want to admit it or not).

[@clicheguevara9917]

but, but... it was vettel winning and we don't like him #blessed #stillwerise

[@hdr_diamondz]

@@clicheguevara9917 YOU don't like him. Don't speak for everyone else.

[@racer501_sb]

@@hdr_diamondz you do know what sarcasm is right

[@davros_adl8155]

can't wait for 2026

[@valentinaou6579]

That... we need MORE OF IT. These simple videos are really refreshing

[@_slickerzentertainment6397]

Simple: Take one of the banked turns from Bristol Motor Speedway, turn it right, copy paste. Now we have a high banked, medium speed, passing zone and stadium turn.

[@ton_of_rocks]

America.exe has stopped working

[@CharlesFreck]

My solution to all F1 racing is to simply add more banked turns. Banked turns are great. Every track needs atleast one heavily banked turn. Great for spectators, great for racing.

[@xdbetyar]

Never would you expect the phrase "More nukes" in an f1 video

[@justarandomguy4873]

Saudi Arabia: You guys want crisis? I'm on my way

[@Mr.Korzack]

My thought; Use the old style sweep, but bank the crap out of it so it's kinda ovally you can Really hammer the start finish/pit entry

[@Undivided_X]

Wouldn't want to take a banked corner flat with old tyres with rubber debris off the racing line...

[@mattsuper1366]

enough banked corners, they're useless

[@ThePapaja1996]

Oh yeah like avus

[@ERIC44424]

too dangerous

[@antoniozavaldski]

@@ERIC44424 I mean, if Zandvoort can do it.

[@estanislao7964]

Being from Barcelona, I can completely agree that something has to be done with that chicane. T10 was a good start (although not sure if necessary), hopefully they get rid of it!

[@Da_Osta]

0:49 Aaaaaaand, they've just done exactly that. But I do think they will have to do something to make this fast sweeper safer. Or just they just might not bother as they do with the safety at some corners of the Jeddah and Miami tracks... Plus, I love how almost every single Vid of Josh ages like this...

[@ForzaPolska06]

It isn't any less safe than Copse for example

[@CV19_YT]

I agree

[@scoofedaraara819]

2 years later and they brought back the old sweeper, was banger

[@steffenbakker6092]

Well it finally happend, the chicane has been removed👍🏻

[@aidan_3385]

Hardest corner in F1 2020 with Monaco’s grand hotel hairpin

[@aldogjipali2835]

There is nothing hard about that chicane. There are other corners who are way harder.

[@LimburgGaming]

@@aldogjipali2835 it isn't hard yea, it's just more annoying than a Vegan at a BBQ

[@ameya2328]

Neither are hard at all lmao, i find the 7,8 chicane harder at barcelona, and at monaco, the AI are so bad anyways, 110 is so easy there, i struggle with 110 more at Barcelona

[@aldogjipali2835]

@@LimburgGaming annoying in terms of spectacle, but not in terms of driving. There is literally 1 line through that corners. There probably aren't any easier corners to drive through as a racer.

[@aldogjipali2835]

@@ameya2328 literally the 2 easiest corners in f1 if you don't count the ones that you don't have to lift off😂

[@petermarcroft3550]

They should take a hint from old PS1 game "Rollcage" and have a corkscrew where they drive upside down. Test that whole "we make enough downforce to drive on the ceiling" a reality

[@LaDeVieify]

Chicane is gone for 2023 Spanish GP. Finally.

[@RyanVitt]

This aged like fine wine... well played Josh

[@revilho]

This track ist not a race track. Its a test track. They can do the preseason testing there, and replace it permanently with Turkey. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[@TheMack]

😄😄

[@santiagoremedi7385]

Lol true

[@FrosteeWusky]

I second this option^^^

[@GinsuChikara]

It's finally gone! I always knew this day would come, I'm so happy 😭

[@sohammhatre]

I'm team "Move the race to Jerez" , thank you

[@davide4052]

Too narrow

[@elirussell1796]

If they can race at monoco they can race at Jerez

[@grizta30]

@@elirussell1796 Well that would depend on what you consider racing

[@MMMotorsport_P2]

Tbh race at Jerez would be even worse XD

[@NachoBomba_]

Motorland Aragón would be better

[@Analogrebelable]

I like the one with the nuke bomb. Edit: Can we move the Spanish GP to Fuji? We'll sell some chorizo and paella there ...

[@VovsiXD]

You should let Twitter use their creativity more in your videos in my opinion. I love their thoughts

[@phoenixblued9625]

Two years later, the chicane is gone and the sweeper is back.

[@giacomovds]

great news josh the chicane is gone has f1 and the circuit officialy anounced today🎉

[@sorenvish]

The clog up in qualifying today was the last straw for me

[@kyperactive]

Its official: They are going back to the og corner!

[@IanMunroe]

I’ve always been a fan of lessening the 90 degree angles, but keeping the general idea of the chicane.

[@Infiltator2]

it is just neede to have two racing lines in there so you can be actually close on the straight. Even if you are exactly behind the car in front you are still 0.5-1s behind because you are so slow. I actually dont know why they dont want to fix it

[@NexxMowarek]

Always amazing to see when discussions about layouts actually encourage coming up with solutions

[@alisweiss7509]

Looks like it got fixed with new TECPRO barriers 😀

[@austinreed5805]

Will you make this into a series?

[@finnvandermaas]

Better yes

[@wendigockel]

@@finnvandermaas Half the schedule is shit, so why not?

[@doktorhund6926]

YEEES !!!! they did it. they finally did it.

[@AubreyF1official]

Who’s watching this after the 2023 Spanish Grand Prix?

[@rishijain1990]

Is anyone watching the video after they actually changed the layout?

[@Duggie4233]

Maybe we could also try the Avus banking could always be fun

[@krishnashankar2675]

This video had me laughing on multiple occasions

[@breeze.]

It's funny how people who don't know anything about designing a track kinda know how to fix this problem...

[@carlosbarzottowirti1895]

@@Lunarfox the "other motorsports" argument isn't valid. The chicane would still be there for them to use. Like the old corner is there too.

[@carlosbarzottowirti1895]

@@Lunarfox you could lay asphalt on the whole area and draw white lines, install removable kerbs, to play with different layouts. Like Paul Ricard. The pre-existing chicane isn't an excuse to not modify that part of the track, nor it's necessary to eliminate the chicane in order to modify the layout

[@carlosbarzottowirti1895]

@@Lunarfox well, F1 does it everytime with Monaco, Singapore and Baku. Put those on, race, take those off. I'm not saying it's the best solution, but hey, it's A solution. It's better than that atrocious chicane, at least.

[@vijayendrahanumara5210]

I absolutely loved the commentary for the circuits

[@Spido68_the_spectator]

Wish granted

[@CameronF1.]

Maaaaaate!!!!!!!! Nostradamus Revell!

[@BDMotorsport]

5 minutes of my time well spent. 10/10 editing and delivery. 10/10 for suggestions too haha.

[@nicolesgaming8917]

THEY'VE DONE AWAY WITH THAT TERRIBLE CHICANE! There's still a terrible chicane like it on the calendar (ahem, Miami), but at least Catalunya's without that monstrosity.

[@TurboWheeler]

What about the one at Suzuka?

[@nicolesgaming8917]

@@TurboWheeler Yeah, it's bad, but imo not close to as bad as the chicane at Miami as it was last year, or the former third-sector chicane at Catalunya.

[@FCB001]

@@TurboWheeler the one at Suzuka is a good overtaking spot

[@mdaffasuryanindra2016]

Actually, they've removed the grandstand just outside that turn and extend the runoff area after Luis Salom's (Moto2 rider) death, so I think overtake might be the only issue for F1 to reuse the old layout.

[@Bravo1c]

Love the format of this video. Would love to see more.

[@pooppoop2440]

I can't thank you enough for lowering the amount of ads in your videos. You make such good products that I can now actually watch without getting furious at ads every 3 minutes. I like, like like and like that ALOT

[@morkmeatshield5373]

Let's have the fans fix Sochi and Yas Marina too.

[@jakegtr]

And Paul Ricard

[@pavise6333]

So 3 nuclear warheads then

[@FCB001]

Well that's easy, just remove them. They are trash.

[@supersasukemaniac]

@@jakegtr Paul Richard would actually be an easy fix since there's more track layouts then the one they use for F1

[@Arthurzeiro]

Honestly, I'd rather have the Peraltada back at the Hermanos Rodriguez track than getting rid of this chicane. Barcelona is more for motorcycle racing and there have been fatal accidents at that fast sweeping corner fairly recently, MotoGP still produces some real bangers there anyway, when you think about it MotoGP is exciting at every track they run.

[@simoneburini4036]

As far as I remember, MotoGP reverted back to the sweeper when they realized that both chicanes where horrible for some reason or another

[@Castigar48]

This is the best thing I've seen. I needed this this saturday

[@namenamename390]

2023 update, they'll actually skip the chicane and use the old sweeper this year. Great success

[@99dndd]

Yeah the “deaths at that sweeper” jokes are funny until someone Googles Luis Salom...

[@syukronaziz5583]

Why should they change they track layout insted make the barrier farther? It’s the barrier that killed Luis Salom, not the track.

[@CharlesFreck]

@@syukronaziz5583 For 1, MotoGP/2/3 is way more dangerous then car racing, so I don't get 99dndd's comment. There's really nothing anyone can do to stop deaths in Moto racing, it's just always going to carry that risk. 2, the barrier didn't kill him? What killed him was his bike falling on top of him and crushing him. It was just real bad luck more then anything.

[@dizzyduck44]

I actually cried laughing at this video. To everyone who contributed, you made my day.

[@daxyerr]

This video was hilariously funny i swear man, great work as always

[@joshuabrown5123]

I like the suggestion at the 3:09 mark. It makes turn 13 more of a potential passing spot, but allows the cars to build speed through the final corner and onto the front straight. F1 could then put the DRS detection zone at the exit of turn 13 so that the car that was passed at that corner can then fight back all the way down the front stretch.

[@justanotherinternetmusicia1248]

I genuinely love this track, but that final chicane makes me want to do many felonies, at once

[@grogg2243]

Your suggestion is actually pretty good. I don't get why they cant just add more run off tho and use the old version, theres not much there apart from grandstands that no-one wants to sit in.

[@zerof0rce]

If I remember MotoGP also had a heavy influence about this chicane. It seems they tried to appease bikes and open-wheel racing.

[@shrimpshrubbery7664]

@@zerof0rce Yeah but the chicane is an add on alternate with the sweeper still there not a complete redesign with the sweeper gone

[@77Raffi77]

@@zerof0rce MotoGP doesn't use the chicane, does it?

[@zerof0rce]

I may have my tracks or stories mixed up upon further review. Sorry guys!

[@StarkRaven59]

@@zerof0rce The chicane has existed well before the bikes used it. It looks like MotoGP only used the chicane twice, in 2016 after Luis Salom's fatal accident, and 2017 in the shorter version. Since then grandstands have been removed and runoff improved, and FIM series don't use the chicane.

[@charliec9839]

Josh your twitter section of this video is possibly the funnest thing I've seen on the internet this year, amazing

[@MimMdance]

Whenever I played the F1 videogames that old long last corner was a lot of fun doing flat out.

[@luka1547]

what if... hear me out... we add a similar last corner to Zandvoort (lots of work to do but i think its possible)

[@bruh1971]

Aged like fine wine

[@marcgisby6452]

Not a fan of F1 but stumbled on your channel. Really enjoy it. Even if I don't always understand the context!

[@th3_toast623]

This video was the video that got me into f1!

[@7mgtesup1]

The first corner needs to be tighter so there is a longer breaking zone into turn 1, that would make for more over taking.

[@mafiousbj]

You have reached peak KZbinr level when you have your followers make your content ^^

[@f1visionary866]

Ahah love this, more of these needed 😂

[@nadiainterF9]

Always good to see how beloved Barcelona circuit is

[@Jef_Vermassen]

The entire week my mood has been: "Urgh, its the Spanish Grand Prix." One of those tracks that I just can't get excited for.

[@spectralc4tlass]

Imagine fans can choose the tracks for F1 to race on before the season starts.

[@We_know_somethings.....]

After finding your channel, this is the first random but absolutely perfect video I've seen. No complaints, just thanks for the good additions to my sub list. Not bad for Kiwi, sorry. I'm a Brit by citizenship and apparently the Britain likes to dunk on its colonies, we all gotta play the hand we've beenie dealt. So, let's have it! 🤣💪

[@ReApeRzZ666]

during the Austrian broadcast of the Qualifying Alexander Wurz said that the GPDA asked the FIA to move back to the outer Corner for next year. As they just started the process the Outcome is still wide open but if FIA and the Track Management agrees, they'll be driving the Outer Corner again. The major Reason for the Chicane apparently were Safety concerns with older Car Generations but since that was long ago and Safety has increased massively since then he can't think of a reason why they shouldn't drive the double right Corner again. *fingers crossed*

[@Blue_Pumpkin]

2:09 Epic!! I laughed so hard 😂😂😂

[@owotuna]

3:07 when you play too much trackmania

[@creepywas5249]

Please do more type of videos like this its extremely entertaining

[@fkev4751]

Alexander Wurz (The President of the GPDA) told in the Austrian prodcast that a letter was send to the FIA in the name of all of the drivers to request that the Circut returns to the old layout(without the chicane) at the next years GP. So there could be a posibilty that we have the old layout back next year.

[@lmao7439]

Josh :Worst piece of race track since sochi autodrome Turn 3 at sochi: am I a joke to you ?

[@MrBlazemaster525]

I have a solution: Move to Ricardo Torno

[@murphymoerf]

I've been saying that for a decade. At least try it out for one race

[@adamlake9507]

I have a hard time believing no one submitted a doodle of a doodle

[@brettzimmerman8912]

One of your best videos tbh haha

[@joecirin7025]

Here’s my solution: don’t race at Barcelona. There’s so many good other tracks comment which one:

[@_slickerzentertainment6397]

Like Ricardo Tormo, or Jerez, or Jarama

[@sirkdagamer0853]

Sepang, Hockenheim, Buddh, Nurburgring, etc.

[@TheJonesdude]

If the USA and Italy get 2 tracks, then fuck it, Fuji then Suzuka 1 week apart

[@blazi2293]

Nurburgring, Fuji, Sepang, Indy

[@damian_szwarcgamingrblx]

Jerez, Magny Cours, Sepang and Yeongam.

[@danielkelley8993]

I could give a 2 year old a crayon and even they could make a track with at least one good breaking zone

[@ChrisShowYou]

One the funniest videos I’ve ever seen before! Just great

[@gordonritchie9341]

You should view his others!!!!

[@daniellasaturno]

i really love your videos and i'm always watching them quietly, but now i'm intrigued: because of the Sir Lancelot tshirt, i always thought you was a canadian. when you said you're from New Zealand i was like "okay maybe i'm dumb for thinking that" hahaha

[@jasonshull3106]

Love your videos, this is the best ever. Thanks again JDS in AZ usa

[@deafeningoctopus]

I like this style of video!

[@SS454LS6]

@3:10 Phil's is the best idea IMO. A tiny chance for an overtake into the right hander, exit speed critical. If final corner has too much aero understeer, then make it variable camber.

[@connorharvey7959]

This was hilarious!! Thanks!!

[@jackmurray7022]

Rlly like this type of video, very enjoyable

[@Pal_D1R35T4]

I have finally managed to dominate the chicane of barcelona in f1 2020 and now they are going to change it. Great.

[@goloje6744]

I’m thinking of a double apex high speed corner to the right like you have in malaysia and the final corner of singapore, so it’s fast and you carry a lot of speed onto the straight

[@theunreadcomment9834]

From what I remmeber when they added the chicane, there were two reasons they chose this layout. 1. They could not extend the run off at turn 13 (same reason they originally reprofiled turn 10) 2. DRS The cars were entering the original corner at higher and higer speeds, so the only way they could improve the safety was to push the corner itself back and make it tighter. Meaning more run off, heavier braking and lower entry speeds. A tight chicane was added to allow the following car an opportunity to close in on the car in front under braking and maybe get within 1 sec for the DRS detection point. Because without the new braking zones, it's practically flat out from turn 10 (the end of the previous DRS zone), and now they've reprofiled that so it's less of a braking zone itself, there would be practically no heavy braking zones all the way back to turn 7. Maybe under the new car designs next year and potential future removal of DRS, the final section could be redesigned for better opportunities. But for right now, though it looks clunky, it does what it's supposed to do. I would say that any change to this section, should also include altering turn 12, possibly with something similar to turn 14 at Sepang and then work out what exactly you want for the end from there, but again that will depend on what the new cars respond to.

[@TheFormidableForce]

Chicane was added 5 years before DRS, in an effort to improve overtaking down the main straight