Fixing Mario Kart DS Retro Cups!

[@toadstracks]

I gotta disagree with that last pick. GCN Bowser’s Castle is an absolute banger of a track, but it is far too similar to the DS version. Both are larger, more industrial-like Bowser Castle courses where you scale the inside of the castle-going higher up instead of simply around it. Instead, I’d easily go with (and without a doubt) Wario Colosseum. It’s the perfect pick: Huge, so it serves well for a finale, but not too ambitious with things that could overload the DS hardware, lots of twists and turns perfect for MKDS’s drifting mechanics, and of course, it’s length. Being the only course with a different lap count (as we are to remove Baby Park) would certainly make it memorable. Other than that, definitely agree with your picks, great video! 👍

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

Thanks for the input! I do recognize that GCN Bowser Castle is too similar to the DS version (what I also elaborated in the video), but it only feels a little fitting because it is the penultimate course before Rainbow Road. It might also be because Wii’s Lightning Cup also ends in a Bowser Castle so, I guess there’s that?

[@KrissyBlues]

My first thought was wario colosseum as well but i feel like its large enough that it poses a risk of being too large for the ds

[@linc_gb]

For the last race track, I agree with removing Yoshi Circuit as it's not really a grand finale, but I'd move it somewhere else, maybe the Banana Cup. For the final retro track cup, I'd probably say GBA Rainbow Road since Rainbow Road is the grand finale in the original tracks of every Mario Kart game and it would work in DS pretty well considering it fits the MKDS retro track style. GCN Bowser's Castle wouldn't work too well since it's similar to the DS version and it'd be the 3rd Bowser Castle in the game. I don't like the Bowser Castle spam in MKSC and SMK, we don't need it in DS as well.

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

Funnily enough, GBA Rainbow Road was a consideration lol. And yeah, I could’ve salvaged Yoshi Circuit if I wanted to, but alas, Daisy Cruiser popped in before I considered moving YC down

[@donaldduckith6792]

Don't forget Mario Kart Wii… The game is like a 3D SMK with 4 Mario Circuits (and a total of 6 circuits) and 3 Bowser's Castles

[@joceandbri06]

I was honestly thinking of making it SNES Rainbow Road, the last track of the first game. Additionally, I also thought of changing the GBA track to Bowser Castle 3, given the pattern of the last Star Cup track being the penultimate track of the Lightning Cup. It’s also an easy fix for future games; just swap BC3’s OG spot in Wii with Sky Garden, and continue the pattern with the following games (Wii is DK Mountain and N64 Rainbow Road, 7 is Airship Fortress and GBA Rainbow Road, and 8 is Grumble Volcano and GCN Rainbow Road)

[@StarmisYT]

I really like seeing smaller Mario Kart channels since they have a lot more variety with their opinions. And you're a good example of it.

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

mfw i’m considered a mario kart channel: 😦 In all seriousness, Thank you. It’s always interesting to see different opinions on things that interest me, no matter how much I tend to disagree with some or even agree to an extent

[@jacksonscowen3940]

My Mario Kart DS retro track list Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1, N64 Moo Moo Farm, GBA Riverside Park, GCN Mushroom Bridge (but keep the shortcuts!!!!) Banana Cup: SNES Donut Planes 2, N64 Frappe Snowland, GBA Bowser Castle 2, GCN Daisy Cruiser Leaf Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 1, N64 Choco Mountain, GBA Ribbon Road, GCN Yoshi Circuit Lightning Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2, N64 Banshee Boardwalk, GBA Sky Garden, GCN Bowser’s Castle

[@sephiross6438]

Here's mine since everyone else did it; Shell Cup: SNES: Mario Circuit 1 N64: Moo Moo Farm GBA: Riverside Park GCN: Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: GCN: Mario Circuit GBA: Cheese Land N64: Choco Mountain SNES: Vanilla Lake 1 Leaf Cup: SNES: Donut Plains 3 N64: Royal Raceway GBA: Sunset Wilds GCN: Yoshi Circuit Lightning Cup: GCN: Wario Colloseum GBA: Broken Pier N64: Bowser Castle SNES: Rainbow Road These picks are cuckoo crazy, but these are what I would've liked.

[@slateoffate9812]

Idea: Mario Kart World, using tracks from 8 Deluxe so far: Victory Screen: Mario Kart Stadium Mushroom Cup: 1: DS Mario Circuit 2: Toad Harbor 3: Wii Mushroom Gorge 4: 3DS Pirahna Plant Slide Flower Cup: 1: DS Wario Stadium 2: Twisted Mansion 3: Tour Yoshi's Island 4: ...Paris Promenade? We don't have a Daisy track yet... Star Cup: 1: DS Tick Tock Clock 2: Sunshine Airport 3: Wii Maple Treeway 4: Tour London Loop Special Cup: 1: DS Waluigi Pinball 2: N64 Kalimari Desert 3: Shy Guy Falls 4: N64 Rainbow Road Shell Cup: 1: Tour Tokyo Blur 2: Cloudtop Cruise 3: Wii Grumble Volcano 4: Bowser's Castle Banana Cup: 1: 3DS DK Jungle 2: Thwomp Ruins 3: GCN Sherbet Land 4: Tour New York Minute Leaf Cup: 1: Super Bell Subway 2: SNES Mario Circuit 3: Bone Dry Dunes 4: 3DS Music Park Lightning Cup: 1: Mario Kart Stadium 2: 3DS Toad Circuit (placeholder for Toad Factory) 3: Electrodrome 4: Rainbow Road

[@Rose_Petals12]

Honestly, I say the main reason why ds didn't have good retro tracks is because they didn't have too much to work with. They only had 4 games to go off, and even then, they couldn't really use Double Dash's courses because of software limitations. Compared to 7-8 who had more games to work with, I'd say it's pretty forgivable that DS doesn't have great retro courses.

[@qr-eh9es]

8:37 LMAOOO that caught me by surprise 😭😭😭

[@erick999dx6]

Here's my own take on the Retro Tracks: Shell Cup: SMK Mario Circuit 1 MK64 Moo Moo Farm MKSC Riverside Park MKDD Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: MK64 Frappe Snowland MKDD Mario Circuit SMK Donut Plains 2 MKSC Cheep Cheep Island Leaf Cup: MKSC Luigi Circuit SMK Koopa Beach 2 MKDD Mushroom Bridge (With the Shortcuts) MK64 Choco Mountain Lightning Cup: MKDD Yoshi Circuit (With the Shortcuts) MKSC Sky Garden MK64 Bowser's Castle SMK Rainbow Road (The SMK Tracks will have 5 laps)

[@Sammykyt]

Interesting choices here are mine: Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1- Except keep this and all the other SNES remakes 5 laps N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Peach Beach Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Luigi Circuit- This fits the banana cup better than the leaf cup in my opinion GCN Mushroom Bridge- Again, it makes more sense for the banana cup. Make it so you can at least actually drive on the bridge this time. Leaf Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 1- I feel like most people prefer this to Koopa Beach 2 and for good reasons N64 Choco Mountain GBA Sky Garden- Again, it fits the leaf cup better GCN Yoshi Circuit- Same as Sky Garden but also keep the tunnel shortcut and Yoshicopter Lightning Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 1- I mean I guess this makes sense N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Lakeside Park GCN Dino Dino Jungle

[@Azu_Genesis]

Honesty, I'd replace choco island 2 with Yoshi Circuit and make Gba Sky garden the last track in the lightening cup I do like the idea of vanilla lake 1 being in the lightening cup but I'd like it better if it comes after Yoshi circuit and banshee boardwalk. Overall, good list :)

[@abonne3154]

Oh, wow! A Mario Kart video I actually agree with that talks about the retro tracks, makes well-thought out replacements, and does it all without unnecessarily shitting on the SNES Mario Kart and its tracks! I appreciate your content, good sir. You have earned a like and a subscribe from me.

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

I wouldn’t say those placements were well thought out, but for the most part, I think they were good enough. I have a slight soft spot for (some of) the SNES tracks, more than most people lol

[@Mr_Pxtty]

most of the tracks were likely choosen due to ds limitation’s

[@MDE128]

I agree with all of these except for Daisy Cruiser.

[@galaxykid420]

My choices would be: Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 (all SNES courses will now be 5 laps) N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Peach Beach Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mushroom Bridge Leaf Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 1 N64 Royal Raceway GBA Sunset Wilds GCN DK Mountain Lightning Cup SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Sky Garden GCN Bowser's Castle

[@finnmacleod3774]

@Luigi circuit needs to go in my opinion.

[@killeranime3591]

On paper having the retro cups be 4 tracks from each games and the tracks going in order of game in each cup is a interesting idea but was executed badly with how boring and bad most of the retros are due to DS’s limitations

[@Prakooponzius164]

Actually GBA Boo Lake from Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass is one of my favorite GBA tracks in Mario Kart 8. The underwater and anti-gravity part are so good that it seems not from the GBA system.

[@Brando_Cookiedough]

THIS IS WELL MADE! imma make 4 custom cups for ctgp revolution with these tracks 😎🤌

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

A hero to us all

[@Brando_Cookiedough]

UPDATE: I ended up actually playing it all. Upset for vanilla lake, because it isn’t in ctgp yet. So I played choco mountain 2 instead. But all in all, I played the whole selection and it was a really strong lineup 😎

[@BubbleGumGuy-gx1xj]

I mean, Personally I didn’t really care that much on the track selection. It makes the game unique and always having the best tracks all the time wouldn’t give us a breath of fresh air. That Snow Man one though Kept On Pissing Me Off.

[@JohnTK]

Mario Kart DS really just suffers from coming at a time where there weren't enough games yet to justify four whole retro cups. Especially since more than half of the available retro courses at the time were flat maps of varying (usually poor) quality, along with the DS's limitations at the time nerfing all the double dash tracks to hell and back just to get them to fit into the cartridge, it's just really not possible to fill all 16 track slots with fair representation without including at least a few stinkers in the mix. MKDS, I love you, and you were my introduction into the MK franchise which I now play to death, but lets be real here, you kinda stink sometimes.

[@annieskywalker9290]

There needs to be a mod with these retro tracks

[@benediktduckers]

I think Peach Beach in Shell Cup would fit better GCN Mario Circuit in Flower Cup, because their obstacles wouldn’t be a problem for the game, they can be easily done in Mario Kart DS! And maybe Mushroom City instead of Mushroom Bridge, because the bridge is too easy in Mario Kart DS, because it’s a slower game and DinoDino-Jungle in the Lightning Cup! The problem of the GameCube-tracks are not only the obstacles, also the speed and this two track would be really nice, because they are long and their obstacles should can be made!

[@shadowdoublade3333]

Here's my personal choices (I would change MKW's too): SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Koopa Troopa Beach GBA Riverside Park GCN Peach Beach SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mushroom Bridge SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Royal Raceway GBA Sky Garden GCN Mushroom City SNES Vanilla Lake 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Sunset Wilds GCN Rainbow Road I might comment my MKW fixes if anyone would be interested!

[@dtb4903]

My Picks: Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Luigi Circuit Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Sunset Wilds GCN Mushroom City Leaf Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Lakeside Park GCN Wario Colosseum Lightning Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 2 N64 Banshee Broadwalk GBA Sky Garden GCN Bowser Castle

[@atomicluminos7320]

This is the way

[@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171]

My ideal MKDS Retro track list would be... SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Kalimari Desert GBA Bowser Castle 1 GCN Peach Beach SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Mario Raceway GBA Ribbon Road GCN Mushroom Bridge SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Sky Garden GCN Sherbet Land N64 Bowser's Castle GBA Yoshi Desert GCN Dino Dino Jungle SNES Rainbow Road Since you made the MKWii video, this would be my selection... N64 Koopa Troopa Beach GCN Dry Dry Desert GBA Riverside Park DS Luigi's Mansion N64 Wario Stadium GBA Cheese Land GCN Daisy Cruiser DS Peach Gardens N64 Royal Raceway GBA Bowser Castle 3 GCN Mushroom City DS DK Pass SNES Mario Circuit 4 GCN Wario Colosseum DS Bowser's Castle N64 Rainbow Road If we want to keep going, this is MK7. I am keeping gliding and underwater in mind. SNES Bowser Castle 1 (Glide) N64 Luigi Raceway DS Cheep Cheep Beach (Underwater) Wii Mushroom Gorge (Glide) N64 Frappe Snowland (Underwater) GBA Bowser Castle 2 (Glide) DS Shroom Ridge (Glide) Wii Coconut Mall (Glide) GBA Broken Pier GCN Yoshi Circuit DS Wario Stadium (Glide) Wii Koopa Cape (Underwater) N64 Yoshi Valley (Glide) GCN DK Mountain (Glide) Wii Bowser's Castle GBA Rainbow Road (Glide) Tracks selected Mario Circuit 1 Bowser Castle 1 Donut Plains 2 Mario Circuit 4 Koopa Beach 2 Rainbow Road Luigi Raceway Koopa Troopa Beach Kalimari Desert Frappe Snowland Mario Raceway Wario Stadium Royal Raceway Bowser's Castle Yoshi Valley Banshee Boardwalk Rainbow Road Riverside Park Bowser Castle 1 Cheese Land Bowser Castle 2 Sky Garden Ribbon Road Yoshi Desert Bowser Castle 3 Broken Pier Rainbow Road Peach Beach Dry Dry Desert Mushroom Bridge Daisy Cruiser Sherbet Land Mushroom City Yoshi Circuit DK Mountain Wario Colosseum Dino Dino Jungle Cheep Cheep Beach Luigi's Mansion Shroom Ridge DK Pass Wario Stadium Peach Gardens Bowser's Castle Mushroom Gorge Coconut Mall Koopa Cape Bowser's Castle

[@thibaultvallin8074]

8:39 dry bones: AHHHHHHHHHHH

[@antoniowolanin-theantoniow4120]

If I fix all the retro cups of Mario Kart from Mario Kart DS to Mario Kart 8: Mario Kart DS: Shell Cup: - SNES Mario Circuit 1 - N64 Moo Moo Farm - GBA Riverside Park - GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: - GCN Mushroom Bridge - GBA Shy Guy Beach - N64 Choco Mountain - SNES Donut Plains 2 Leaf Cup: - SNES Bowser Castle 3 - N64 Royal Raceway - GBA Cheese Land - GCN Yoshi Circuit Lightning Cup: - GCN Dino Dino Jungle - GBA Sky Garden - N64 Banshee Boardwalk - SNES Rainbow Road Mario Kart Wii: Shell Cup: - GCN Peach Beach - SNES Choco Island 2 - DS Yoshi Falls - N64 Mario Raceway Banana Cup: - DS Delfino Square - GBA Sunset Wilds - N64 Frappe Snowland - GCN Waluigi Stadium Leaf Cup: - SNES Mario Circuit 3 - DS Desert Hills - GCN DK Mountain - N64 Yoshi Valley Lightning Cup: - DS Peach Gardens - SNES Vanilla Lake 1 - GBA Bowser Castle 3 - N64 Rainbow Road Mario Kart 7: Shell Cup: - DS Figure-8 Circuit - GBA Boo Lake - Wii Mushroom Gorge - N64 Kalimari Desert Banana Cup: - SNES Mario Circuit 2 - DS Shroom Ridge - N64 Koopa Troopa Beach - Wii Wario’s Gold Mine Leaf Cup: - DS DK Pass - GCN Daisy Cruiser - Wii Koopa Cape - GBA Bowser Castle 2 Lightning Cup: - SNES Koopa Troopa Beach 2 - Wii Maple Treeway - DS Airship Fortress - GBA Rainbow Road Mario Kart 8: Shell Cup: - 3DS Daisy Hills - Wii Moo Moo Meadows - DS Cheep Cheep Beach - N64 Toad’s Turnpike Banana Cup: - GBA Mario Circuit - SNES Donut Plains 3 - Wii Coconut Mall - 3DS Rock Rock Mountain Leaf Cup: - GCN Sherbet Land - 3DS Piranha Plant Slide - GBA Broken Pier - DS Waluigi Pinball Lightning Cup: - 3DS DK Jungle - Wii Dry Dry Ruins - N64 Bowser’s Castle - GCN Rainbow Road

[@notnemesis92]

I would put Rainbow Road as the last track in the lightning cup because it wouldn't make sense to end it with a non Rainbow Road

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

Back then no Rainbow Road occupied the Lightning Cup. 7 introduced the idea and it stuck to this day. Nowadays, yeah I can see how it feels a little odd not to have a Rainbow Road

[@notnemesis92]

@@GoldenDryBonesandStu Still, I can't see how not putting a rainbow road in the last track of the last retro cup makes sense...

[@ValiTheSaltMan]

I am gonna be honest, I like the DS retros, aside from Ch*co Island 2 and Baby Park

[@stephlarson2933]

Makes sense that Luigi Circuit, Baby Park, Mushroom Bridge, and Yoshi Circuit are not in Mario Kart DS All GCN Custom Courses.

[@jacobvillalobos7561]

I thought he was going to show us a mod of all the retro tracks looking a lot better than before.

[@gustavoribeiro4609]

Well, My Fixing Retro In The Mario Kart DS - 8 Deluxe Is: MKDS: Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Koopa Troopa Beach GBA Boo Lake GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 3 N64 Mario Raceway GBA Bowser's Castle 2 GCN Daisy Cruiser Leaf Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Ribbon Road GCN Sherbet Land Lightning Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 1 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Sky Garden GCN Dino Dino Jungle MKWii: Shell Cup: GCN Mario Circuit N64 Moo Moo Farm SNES Ghost Valley 2 DS Shroom Ridge Banana Cup: SNES Choco Island 1 GCN Baby Park N64 Frappe Snowland DS Delfino Square Leaf Cup: GBA Cheep-Cheep Island DS Tick-Tock Clock N64 DK's Jungle Parkway GCN Waluigi Stadium Lightning Cup: DS Peach Gardens GCN DK Mountain GBA Yoshi Desert N64 Bowser's Castle MK7: Shell Cup: GBA Luigi Circuit N64 Kalimari Desert DS Cheep Cheep Beach Wii Mushroom Gorge Banana Cup: N64 Sherbet Land SNES Bowser's Castle 2 Wii Coconut Mall DS Waluigi Pinball Leaf Cup: GBA Lakeside Park DS Airship Fortress GCN Mushroom City Wii Maple Treeway Lightning Cup: Wii Koopa Cape N64 Wario Stadium GCN Bowser's Castle SNES Rainbow Road MK8/MK8DX: Shell Cup: Wii Moo Moo Meadows DS Mario Circuit GBA Shy Guy Beach N64 Toad's Turnpike Banana Cup: GCN Mushroom Bridge N64 Royal Raceway SNES Ghost Valley 3 3DS Wuhu Loop Leaf Cup: DS Luigi's Mansion Wii Wario's Gold Mine 3DS Music Park N64 Yoshi Valley Lightning Cup: 3DS Piranha Plant Slide GCN Wario Colosseum DS Bowser's Castle N64 Rainbow Road Egg Cup: GCN Yoshi Circuit Triforce Cup: SNES Choco Island 2 Wii Toad's Factory Crossing Cup: 3DS Neo Bowser City GBA Cheese Land Bell Cup: GBA Bowser's Castle 3 DS Rainbow Road

[@bryanpaulnintendo]

7:00 Um, yes, while I can agree that the music sounds… strange, I wouldn’t necessarily call it “bad.” The best thing about the theme is the piano.

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

Bowser’s Piano origins

[@bryanpaulnintendo]

@@GoldenDryBonesandStu From the Mario Movie?

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

@@bryanpaulnintendo yeah lol

[@bryanpaulnintendo]

@@GoldenDryBonesandStuMy point exactly.

[@thefancydoge8668]

Imo I would actually replace mushroom bridge with mushroom city since I prefer it over bridge, we basically already have a mushroom bridge replacement in ds that is mushroom ridge.

[@YTGamerMario]

Onpopiler opinon, i like choco Island 2, the Sound track is amzing and whatever you Call that you are driveing in too Me loks like Carrey its so delcus

[@matthewhedrichjr.5445]

Here’s my take She’ll Cup SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Baby Park Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 1 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mushroom Bridge Leaf Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Sky Garden GCN Yoshi Circuit Lightening Cup: SNES Choco Island 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Bowser Castle 4 GCN Rainbow Road

[@TheCurryMan450]

Here Is My Selection: Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Peach Beach Banana Cup: SNES Choco Island 1 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Boo Lake GCN Waluigi Stadium Leaf Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Mario Raceway GBA Sky Garden GCN Yoshi Circuit Lightning Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 1 N64 DK Jungle Parkway GBA Bowser Castle 3 GCN Wario Colosseum

[@soulpeashooter556]

Take a shot when every time he says “honestly speaking” or “overall speaking”

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

Did I get a sense of deja vu? There was a comment similar to this.. The fact that I noticed it afterwards made me really not like this video as much..

[@buzzytrombone4353]

@@GoldenDryBonesandStu That comment was mine lmfao

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

@@buzzytrombone4353 oh yeah!

[@soulpeashooter556]

Oh didn’t realise we had the same comment!

[@RiftComix]

Good list 👍

[@edwardsaldana2534]

Schaffrillas would be very happy

[@cheesy2929]

These are mine :) Snes Mario Circuit 1 n64 Moo Moo Farm Gba Shy Guy Beach Gcn Dry Dry Desert Gcn Mushroom Bridge Snes Donut Plains 1 Gba Cheese Land n64 Mario Raceway Gba Luigi Circuit Gcn Sherbet Land Snes Choco Island 2 n64 Bowser's Castle Gcn Yoshi Circuit Gba Sky Garden n64 Banshee Boardwalk Snes Rainbow Road

[@bryanchow9635]

7:52 Mushroom Bridge is also in Double Dash's Flower Cup, being the first course while Daisy Cruiser is the third. Mushroom Bridge is also short, so I'd put it in the Shell Cup, have Dry Dry Desert in the Banana Cup, and Daisy Cruiser in the Leaf Cup. Other than that, I strongly agree with the changes you would make for DS's Retro Cups. Are you considering making a video on Fixing the Booster Course Pass in the future?

[@classyconor]

I had a similar idea... Shell Cup SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Koopa Troopa Beach GBA Riverside Park GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Bowser's Castle 2 GCN Mushroom Bridge Leaf Cup SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Mario Raceway GBA Ribbon Road GCN Bowser's Castle Lightning Cup SNES Choco Island 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Sky Garden GCN Wario Colosseum

[@goofyfish17]

TBH I'd replace Peach Circuit with Riverside Park

[@RockStudios15]

You Should Do This With Wii and 7

[@osberswgaming]

Based

[@level100feraligatr2]

Here's my fix: Shell Cup SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Peach Beach Banana Cup SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Boo Lake GCN Waluigi Stadium Leaf Cup SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Sunset Wilds GCN Mario Circuit Lightning Cup SNES Ghost Valley 3 N64 Yoshi Valley GBA Bowser Castle 4 GCN Rainbow Road

[@someperson3883]

Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Peach Beach Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mario Circuit Leaf Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 1 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Bowser Castle 3 GCN Yoshi Circuit Lightning Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Sky Garden GCN DK Mountain Not in Order: Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Peach Beach Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mario Circuit Leaf Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Sky Garden GCN Yoshi Circuit Lightning Cup: GCN DK Mountain N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Bowser Castle 4 SNES Rainbow Road

[@Nootathotep]

dry dry desert over luigi circuit is a terrible opinion

[@user-xo3hw6bb9k]

Can you do a video on fixing Mario Kart Wii’s Retro Cups

[@shaneyop6486]

I would end off on GCN rainbow roaf

[@bob171]

Mine would be something like this: -Shell Cup .SNES Mario Circuit 1 .N64 Moo Moo Farm .GBA Shy Guy Beach .GCN Dry Dry Desert -Banana Cup .GCN Mushroom Bridge .SNES Choco Island 1 .GBA Boo Lake .N64 Frappe Snowland -Leaf Cup .N64 DK Jungle Parkway .GCN Yoshi Circuit .SNES Bowser's Castle 3 .GBA Ribbon Road -Lightning Cup .GBA Sky Garden .N64 Wario Stadium .GCN Dino Dino Jungle .SNES Rainbow Road

[@donaldduckith6792]

*YES* (I literally only say this because it means that Mario Kart Wii wouldn't have gotten Shy Guy Beach and DK Jungle Parkway which I am 200% okay with)

[@bob171]

@@donaldduckith6792 and if DS had SNES Rainbow Road that means Mario Kart 8 would have remade GCN Rainbow Road if they were to follow the pattern

[@donaldduckith6792]

@@bob171 Oh and it would mean that Mario Kart Wii would have gotten another Rainbow Road

[@bob171]

@@donaldduckith6792 Mario Kart DS would remake SNES Rainbow Road Wii would remake N64 Rainbow Road 7 would remake GBA Rainbow Road And 8 would get GCN Rainbow Road

[@cooprice0237]

“Honestly speaking…”

[@SMPSMLParodies_]

7:02 wdym?!? DS GBA BC2 SOUND GOOD!!

[@luangabriel5577]

Boo Lake and Banshee Bordwalk togheter

[@linkslad1266]

Shell Cup SNES Mario Circuit 1 GBA Shy Guy Beach N64 Koopa Troopa Beach GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup GCN Mario Circuit N64 Frappe Snowland SNES Koopa Beach 1 GBA Bowser Castle 2 Leaf Cup GBA Luigi Circuit SNES Vanilla Lake 1 N64 DK's Jungle Parkway GCN Yoshi Circuit Lightning Cup GCN DK Mountain GBA Sky Garden N64 Banshee Boardwalk SNES Rainbow Road

[@topherpetrole1136]

Could you do a fixing of Mario Kart Wii retro tracks next?

[@HeyItIsMichal]

That would be great.

[@topherpetrole1136]

Also one for MK7 too. Even though that game has one of the best retro track selection, there are still some tracks that can definetly be swapped out with others

[@bryanpaulnintendo]

8:36-8:38 🤨🤨🗿🗿

[@gilbert_shork3338]

Shell cup propaganda

[@britishguy54dx]

My picks would be: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Shy Guy Beach GCN Dry Dry Desert SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Bowser Castle 2 GCN Mushroom Bridge SNES Vanilla Lake 1 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Daisy Cruiser SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Sky Garden GCN Wario Colosseum

[@WCircuit7224]

I'd honestly put bowsers castle right before sky garden. It would go from the dark nightmare to the drive Through a heavenly dream which is actually quite similar to the nitro courses going from bowsers castle to rainbow road.

[@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936]

I’d put Sky Garden as the last retro track. Having Yoshi circuit as the last one is just kind of anti-climactic.

[@erick999dx6]

@@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 Unless it's GBA Bowser Castle 4 & GCN Rainbow Road

[@seansmith6255]

To be fair The retro track in ghis game were more of an extra then a nessesity Considering it was likely added do to complaints that double dash lacked content

[@Mario4736]

HONESTLY SPEAKING

[@SSBYoshiFan]

this was actually a pretty interesting video!

[@buzzytrombone4353]

Take a full shot of plum liquor every time this guy says "Honestly Speaking"

[@the_xenoninstitute]

Hot Take: Baby Park is only fun in double dash, in Ds its boring, in mario kart 8 its more frustrating than fun (especially online), im not saying its bad in 8, its plays well and looks amazing and The music is iconic but i groan whenever it comes up online.

[@AleTheKingOfGame]

Honestly speaking

[@Teh-Dee-bear]

Great video

[@thimb3056]

Honestly Speaking

[@supermdztv7228]

Honestly speaking that's a pretty decent catchphrase

[@Squiddy-go1du]

In my opinion I’d take DS retro tracks all the 8 ones any day (excluding the booster course pass) just like I’d take Wiis battle mode over 8s or 8DXs any day.

[@thadarkorange]

9:02 ON GOD BRO, mkds was my first game too and if anyone played ds theyll know how GOD AWFUL choco island is.... the handling is super terrible and i barely got any first place due to how slippery it is

[@harleypippenger3255]

mario kart 7 had the overall best retro courses of all 4 new games

[@monopolyrubix1875]

Fine concept, but you use a lot of words to say comparatively little. Cut out some of the fluff words like "plus", "necessarily", "after all", "well", etc. and the video will be more concise and more pleasing to listen to.

[@kaiserbill25]

Here are my choices. I'll take into account the DS's limited hardware and Nintendo's mindset at the time. Shell Cup SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup GCN Baby Park GBA Bowser Castle 2 N64 Frappe Snowland SNES Donut Plains 2 Leaf Cup SNES Koopa beach 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mushroom Bridge Lightning Cup GCN Yoshi Circuit GBA Sky Garden N64 Bowser's Castle SNES Rainbow Road Did banana and lightning in reverse order so I could end out on a rainbow road. Changes aren't too drastic. They just add a little more variety.

[@cheezyfriez12]

Honestly speaking

[@justthenamekevin]

My “fixes” because I’m insane: *Shell Cup:* SNES Mario Circuit 3 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Luigi’s Circuit GCN Yoshi’s Circuit *Banana Cup:* SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Kalimari Desert GBA Yoshi’s Desert GCN Dry Dry Desert *Leaf Cup:* SNES Vanilla Lake 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Snow Land GCN Sherbet Land *Lightning Cup:* SNES Choco Island 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Bowser’s Castle 4 GCN Rainbow Road

[@SuperZombieBros]

I don’t mind Chocolate Island that much since it’s based off of a late game area in Super Mario World, which does seem like a good pick for the final retro cup.

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

If the road wasn’t as bumpy and slippery (at least on DS), I wouldn’t have minded either. Alas though, it is what it is

[@danielfotheringhamproducti7368]

@@GoldenDryBonesandStu, honestly, it would have worked better in Wii, 7, and 8, since tricks were added in those games, and if Choco Island 2 did return in Wii, I’d have it as the replacement for Mario Circuit 3, or even, making it appear as the third course in the Lightning Cup in 7, replacing Rainbow Road, and putting DS Airship Fortress as the final retro course, and last, but not least, if it appeared in the Booster Course Pass, I would have kicked Mario Circuit 3 out and had this instead, alongside Vanilla Lake in Wave 5. So yeah, that’s my personal opinion on where Choco Island should have been. I actually played the Choco Island tracks on Wii via Rom Hacks, and I enjoyed them there since you get to do tricks off the bumps, and it’s not as slippery like earlier games. Anyways, thanks for reading! 👋

[@awesomejosephaj5830]

Nice video. Interestingly enough, I just started playing this game again and this happened to show up in my recommended.

[@misshontz7538]

Mk7 has the best retro choice selection I've seen in any Mario kart game.

[@barticgameoshawottsquad6149]

True

[@stuffenjoyer6677]

Mario kart 8 Deluxe: “Am I a joke to you?”

[@Neo_Bones]

Ah yes, exactly 1 GBA track, and all N64 tracks are from the Mushroom Cup

[@BoltPin_05]

@@stuffenjoyer6677ot really fair, since the booster packs still have 2 more waves left

[@DiamondBull66]

I think 8 Deluxe + Booster Course Pass is better

[@ussans6444]

Rant: I LOVE CHOCO ISLAND 2!

[@zigzag2041]

For my version of Mario Kart DS Retro Tracks Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Riverside Park GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 1 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mushroom Bridge Leaf Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Sky Garden GCN Yoshi Circuit Lightning Cup: SNES Choco Island 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Bowser's Castle 3 GCN Rainbow Road

[@A-Dasher]

I wonder what would happen if instead retros were introduced in Wii and not Ds hmmm

[@toxicjoshua7934]

Hey man it’s your choices and they were good choices, I wouldn’t change leaf cup either and GCN bowser castle would be quite good in the lightning cup

[@TheRaginGaugen]

The leaf cup is underwhelming imo it should be like a star cup and it’s not even close to that I would replace choco mountain with dk jungle parkway gba Luigi circuit for sunset wilds and mushroom bridge for dd jungle

[@ToadDuck]

This video blew up crazy

[@Roxleton]

Hot take: all the DS nitro tracks are pretty meh other then like RR and Airship Fortress

[@AvertAT]

10:30 I think the Bowser mechanic would work on DS, just remodel the Bullet Bill launcher from Airship Fortress

[@LandonEmma]

ERMII KART DS!

[@LandonEmma]

probably going to make a rom hack of this, to make the retro tracks better, most of these custom tracks exist.

[@lw97nilslinuswhitewaterweb24]

Alternative history

[@jordanault-rapley4097]

The retro course selections in DS were a bit meh not bad per say compared to the Mario karts that came after DS. I basically agree with most of your picks, something to note is that the shells cup order in DS is pretty weird 3 of the 4 tracks are the first tracks in their respective MKs e.g SNES Mario Circuit 1, GBA Peach Circuit and GCN Luigi Circuit. whereas Moo Moo Farm is the 2nd track in MK64 they could’ve picked Luigi Raceway if they wanted to make the shell cup an all first track cup

[@shystudio6711]

Golden I have a my ideas for the cups shell cup I would do this snes Mario circut 1 n64 Luigi raceway gba shy guy beach gcn Mario circut second one I’ll add snes chocolate island one n64 toads turn pike gba snow land gcn gcn mushroom city leaf cup normal thunder gcn I would replace with waluigi stadium and snes will be Mario circut 4

[@TrademarkLover64]

9:29 I actually played some Ermii Kart DS not that long ago actually. The Vanilla Lake 1 remake they did on there is also phenomenal, I must agree with you on that.

[@moosesues8887]

Hehe mayro kratt moment

[@AlbertBoris]

Thanks for the shoutout! This is an interesting topic and it's a shame MKDS' retro track selection is as meh as it is. Personally, I think GCN Wario Colosseum would be the perfect track to end off the game, with how epic and ambitious it is.

[@thomaseadbhardmcqueen7511]

Dry Dry Desert and Bowser's Castle fit the last-track-of-the-cup vibe perfectly (although I think DDD was pretty obvious in that regard). Also I think the addition of Koopa Troopa Beach was a good addition.

[@the1-upclub98]

I actually like the GBA BC2 music BECAUSE of how different it sounds, but I understand if it sounds too ear-grating for everyone else. I can't hear the main melody half the time.

[@crowls4205]

I’ll be honest I liked the retro courses in this game aside from baby park and choco island 2

[@SuperGameCube]

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[@crystalizedstar9381]

Ngl I'm happy you kept mushroom bridge as a track I didn't reliase the shortcuts were missing as a kid but after watching the game for so long I saw it was missing and felt a bit ripped of

[@GoldenDryBonesandStu]

I didn’t realize there were shortcuts up until I watched a video about Double Dash years later, so I thought that was interesting