I have changed the title & thumbnail from that spoiler. Please accept my apology for the poor titling beforehand, though this isn't much better, at least it doesn't spoil the game for people outright. Now I'd imagine my comments will fill up with our regular program of people complaining about the fact that I gave a spoiler warning at all, as opposed to recklessly spoiling the game in the title.
@OrionTheTerrible5 жыл бұрын
What was the old title
@Fizhy5 жыл бұрын
@@OrionTheTerrible Very naughty.
@agw24684 жыл бұрын
@@OrionTheTerrible It was basically spoiling most of the game
@biscuit1194 жыл бұрын
What's the name of instrumental at the beginning of video???
@Tino262d4 жыл бұрын
Was it (scroll down its a big spoiler) "Did Micah deserve to die"?
@MartyKay3 жыл бұрын
In my current playthrough, Micah is still rotting in jail and Mr. Downes is happily living with his debt. Life is beautiful.
@porcodanet48573 жыл бұрын
You're a good man
@janisvogt30413 жыл бұрын
@@porcodanet4857 Downes stll has tuberculosis
@emtee71383 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Strauss forces you to do that mission no matter what you do. I've tried, and he just forced me into the mission
@MartyKay3 жыл бұрын
@@emtee7138 I know, I collected debt from the others and now I'm just roaming world and hunting, doing side quests, exploring.
@walmartbag56983 жыл бұрын
@saniyar parmou why are you getting angry for no reason
@matthewtaylor3774 жыл бұрын
When Arthur was crawling to the gun I never pushed A on my controller so fast in my life
@dylant.ridenhour10994 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Radagon_the_night_moose4 жыл бұрын
My controller broke cuz of it:/
@liamellison98064 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the final boss fight with Shephard from MW2
@Outbacklegend4 жыл бұрын
My finger hurt after that 🤣
@PabloRodriguez-cl4ox4 жыл бұрын
@The Last Soviet That’s a damn Lie
@beanburrito75695 жыл бұрын
When he called Arthur "Black Lung" never in my life did i want to shoot a character in a video game more badly in my life
@Basedbateman975 жыл бұрын
''ohh i have waited for this a long time black lung''
@stickman84595 жыл бұрын
“Your losing to a dead man.”
@heypeter18465 жыл бұрын
@@stickman8459 you're*
@lawrencewashington99015 жыл бұрын
What's Crackn? *ur
@heypeter18465 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencewashington9901 nah
@plutoplanti3 жыл бұрын
The actor of Bill Williamson said that the actor of Micah would constantly practice with his guns while they were on break or in the waiting room. Like when he would be talking to someone or at the vending machine he’d practice wielding them and such. The actor put a lot of work to make Micah look cool with the guns
@ThaYoungChad2 жыл бұрын
And it shows too, especially in the Rhodes battle. Say what you want about Micah, I do think he probably was the best shot in the gang. I mean look how he had John pin downed in the final mission.
@alvis25802 жыл бұрын
@@ThaYoungChad i'd say probably one of the best, he still lost when contesting arthur on beaver hollow when both of them withdrew their weapon, arthur was faster even with TB and near his death, but for john, i agree since it's not his prime
@lightningmonky7674 Жыл бұрын
Thanks cowpoke!
@PeptoAbismol Жыл бұрын
@@ThaYoungChadHosea would like a word with you.
@sugarflame1833 Жыл бұрын
He missed John several times when he was right in front of him. I do admit Micah is skilled but not accurate
@Jonin_Kazumi4 жыл бұрын
Dutch: I’m begging you Arthur get Micah out of jail.. Arthur: no *credits roll up*
@funguy1564 жыл бұрын
*plays that's the way it is*
@DoomedStatue_4 жыл бұрын
I like how he wanted to save Micah but not John
@Emajenus4 жыл бұрын
It shows how much Dutch cared about Micah. When Marston went to jail, Dutch was fine letting him get hanged. Dutch's trust of Micah is what doomed him in the end.
@yeetistic61844 жыл бұрын
I'm imagining it where Arthur stands on a small hill like luke Skywalker and just says "nah" and then cruel cruel world starts playing as John, Sean, lenny and hoseah start dancing
@ryanrochon88914 жыл бұрын
@@funguy156 dude thats fucking hilarious i had to give you written credit 1 month later
@LVNVSmash4 жыл бұрын
He's just lucky Arthur was pretty much dead when Micah finally got the balls to fight him. A full healthy Arthur would have slaughtered that man
@janewolf63904 жыл бұрын
Even half dead, Arthur came pretty close to beating Micah's ass. He probably would've shot him and won if Dutch hadn't stepped on his hand when he was reaching for the gun.
@lukas46184 жыл бұрын
@@janewolf6390 But did Micah shoot Arthur?
@asdontoistda76844 жыл бұрын
ApoSebo depends on the honour level u were on
@lukas46184 жыл бұрын
@@asdontoistda7684 I meant during the fight Micah didn't shoot Arthur.When Arthur was fighting the pinkertons Micah didn't shoot him. He went hand to hand with him
@dickwarlock57614 жыл бұрын
Arthur even makes fun of him during the fight and he says something along the lines of "can't even kill a dying man"
@xeones5 жыл бұрын
The only time he ever touches Arthur is when he's at Death's door. He never touches John. Coward.
@aaronhenderson6705 жыл бұрын
The only thing he touches that belong to John are the bullets that ended him
@brancolt_5 жыл бұрын
Because he knows John would fucking demolish him. Arthur is level headed, John is not. Especially when someone fucks with his family
@OutlawKING1115 жыл бұрын
@@brancolt_ John was young and irrational here in RDR2. In RDR1 however his daddy instincts kicked in and he became more mature.
@OutlawKING1115 жыл бұрын
I think Micah held some respect towards Arthur which is why he never fucked with him. Until Arthur got sick though, Micah saw him as weak and lost all respect he had towards him
@brancolt_5 жыл бұрын
ᴏ ᴜ ᴛ ʟ ᴀ ᴡ_ ᴋ ɪ ɴ ɢ Yes but he’s still got a very short fuse in RDR1. Rewatch his scenes with West Dickens or Irish. He threatens to kill them every conversation they have, basically
@groudon88372 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I like Guarma so much is because the game made it seem, in my eyes at least, that Micah was scared because for once he wasn’t in control which is why he wasn’t an ass to anyone while he was there
@BobaBushido2 жыл бұрын
This is late but I noticed when everyone is surprised to see Arthur there, Micah just laughs. And it's not a "holy shit you're alive" laugh it's more of a "this bastard really won't die" type of laugh Interesting lil detail I noticed
@kritizismmusics97372 жыл бұрын
In life I've seen people exploit a bad situation to make it worse and in the process just *looking out for themselves* that's Micah.
@Dynaraw Жыл бұрын
He’s a survivor …. Member black lung 🫁
@anakinskinwalker1724 Жыл бұрын
@@BobaBushido Yes, it seems you are the only other person who noticed he laughs besides me
@1___________________1-n6i Жыл бұрын
He was rude to Arthur in the camp in Guarma if you do smalltalk
@RapAndCereal5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how fat Micah actually was in Guarma when he unbuttons his shirt
@vigil_vigil78025 жыл бұрын
Ayden ProGamer He was bloated from having no food
@celess215 жыл бұрын
Well actually, I was wondering about that a lot. It doesn't look like a fat belly, but poor nutrition. If you look closely at the model, there seems to be a few scars on his stomach, and one time at the campfire, I actually saw him grabbing his stomach in pain.
@vigil_vigil78025 жыл бұрын
celess21 micah doesn’t sleep either
@RapAndCereal5 жыл бұрын
Interesting facts here
@celess215 жыл бұрын
@@vigil_vigil7802 Probably another trauma from his daddy, the guy is just too broken to fix. If you stay too long next to him at camp, he starts stuttering saying he doesn't like it when people are close to him physically, go figure, he has so many issues I could make a long ass list, lol.
@jormungandr54594 жыл бұрын
people can be strong in many ways. Micah spilled everything out when he was interrogated, but charles says that Strauss was captured and interrogated yet he didn't say a word and died In captivity.
@オクタン-g7u4 жыл бұрын
For a squirrely man as Strauss was, I actually believed him when he said he was feeding the gang. Unlike Micah.
@DKarkarov4 жыл бұрын
Strauss was a cold hard dude, look at what his job was. You have to have ice in your veins to be able to loan shark because if you have any mercy in you then you are going to fail at it. He probably just thought even if he ratted them out he would get life in jail anyway (not a long time considering his age). Even if they released him he had all those people he screwed over who might be out to get him or an old loose gang member who learned he ratted them out. In the end he probably just didn't want to go down looking pathetic and weak like all those people he gave loans to.
@jaydinero36594 жыл бұрын
Karkarov fuck Strauss tho if he didn’t sent Arthur to get money back from Thomas downes, Arthur would have never gotten infected with TB
@interlouper4 жыл бұрын
Jay Dinero look at the comment above you
@theshycryo4 жыл бұрын
@@jaydinero3659 bruh, its not like Strauss KNOWS Arthur will contract TB. Its like a boss ask some of his workers to do some errands and then the workers die from a car accident and suddenly everyone blames the boss for the accident.
@jonash34063 жыл бұрын
There is this strange bug that happens in my game, whenever Micah is around Arthur just happens to throw a stick of dynamite at his feet
@rapthewrapper54673 жыл бұрын
It's weird how this happened to me after I read this
@ChillChrill3 жыл бұрын
That also happens to me all the time
@tacizza3 жыл бұрын
My Arthur does that too, how strange..
@CustodialRuby583 жыл бұрын
I know it's just like the game takes over it's just so odd
@Handlelesswithme3 жыл бұрын
Strange that similar to my odd hand seizure to do that exact action every time the colors red, black and white are on screen.
@jamesgalloway74533 жыл бұрын
Something I think that has been missed by most and I believe to be a real clue to the truth behind Micah being the rat is the fact that he wore white during the bank robbery. This is a nod to some old movie where the inside guy wears a white suit so the good guys will know which one is their guy so they won't shoot him by mistake.
@werewolfofthedarkwolf33682 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@philipgutierrez29992 жыл бұрын
Which movie is this? I'd like to see it.
@jamesgalloway74532 жыл бұрын
@@philipgutierrez2999 I honestly don't remember, I just remember the concept was probably used more than once.
@makojuicedaniel93072 жыл бұрын
He didn't narc on the bank though. Even the pinkertons said he started narcing after they got back from guarma.
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj94572 жыл бұрын
@@makojuicedaniel9307 He might just trying to be extra like he always is.
@darraghnolan86205 жыл бұрын
He also was the one who unnecessarily burned sadie adler's house to the ground i chapter 1 by flipping tge table with the lantern
@elijahbrink45964 жыл бұрын
He also sexually assaulted her according to her.
@michaelmillican55924 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Rockstar really made the most horrible bastard ever.
@vonhabsburg39234 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair it was right after the heat of the moment, and he didn’t know if the O’driscolls recruited women to fight or not. Not saying that what he did was right, just that he had a possible reason.
@frozenfoxgames53004 жыл бұрын
@@elijahbrink4596 Well, he tried.
@Lolpy.4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that was an accident, even if he was still trying to get to her for whatever reason, I don’t think he intended to do that.
@IDKGeorge1235 жыл бұрын
Spoilers! At the end when you confront Micah, for just a moment you can see a rat exiting the cabin before him.
@dude7543214 жыл бұрын
I know, I shot that thing and I knew it had to symbolize Micah. I wondered if anyone else saw that rat
@YI-hf6tv4 жыл бұрын
There's another one that comes out of the cabin as well. I killed both but gave the 2nd one a much more painful death by shooting it in it's balls after Dutch shot it. I came back to the rat and took its revolver afterwards
@michaeldotgov4 жыл бұрын
YEAH. I was wondering where he was then the rat scurried out and I said: "LOOK! IT'S MICAH!"
@WayTruthLife34 жыл бұрын
Also, during the Widow of Willard’s Rest Stranger encounter at the north east of the map, she asks you to shoot a rat, though for me it got away...
@erikallen38044 жыл бұрын
@@YI-hf6tv Micah’s Revolver isn’t worth the situations he put the Van Der Linde Gang through.
@Caleb_Squatongim4 жыл бұрын
Y’all forgot about all that “WAS YOU FOLLOWED” shit. It seemed like Micah was trying too hard to draw attention away from himself.
@Dalt1n9994 жыл бұрын
he was the one that told Dutch about the possibility of having another rat, preventing Dutch from ever thinking he was the rat
@rinzler18014 жыл бұрын
it’s a ruse to deflect suspicion off of him
@mileschow59614 жыл бұрын
But was he followed? Still unconfirmed...
@billkevin45014 жыл бұрын
I just thought of it as an attempt to "bully" Arthur because he was sick.
@isken65934 жыл бұрын
@@billkevin4501 me too
@sgt.marcusstacker2 жыл бұрын
Another thing I’d like to add that I noticed on my second play through… During the bank heist in Chapter 4, all the gang members (Arthur included) are wearing an all black outfit. All, except Micah, who for the first time in the game, is wearing all white. Since we know the Pinkertons were waiting for the gang and an imminent shootout, his all white outfit is like saying “Don’t shoot me, I’m on your side!”.
@123Mathzak Жыл бұрын
Interesting that you noticed that. In some old western movies, an informant would wear something white under their coats, so that law enforcement knew who the “good guys” were and who not to shoot at.
@sgt.marcusstacker Жыл бұрын
@@123Mathzak yeah, I didn’t notice it the first time around on account of being in the moment and not yet knowing he was a rat. On my second and third play through, I noticed more and more clues throughout the game. It’s just like rewatching a movie lol
@123Mathzak Жыл бұрын
@@sgt.marcusstacker But you know what’s really interesting? That all happened BEFORE Guarma? So how long was Micah REALLY snitching/double-crossing the gang for?
@Enomscaz Жыл бұрын
i didnt notice this, but it makes sence so he would stand out
@sgt.marcusstacker Жыл бұрын
@@123Mathzak yeah, it really makes you wonder. On my third play through, I studied him even further, both in and out of cutscenes, and noticed more and more clues hinting that he’d been a rat the whole game. Although in truth, rat or no rat, the only person Micah Bell ever really worked for was himself. He was probably only a rat because he got caught and cut a deal to save himself the noose. In Chapter 2, there’s a conversation between him and Dutch at camp where he tries to convince Dutch to tell him where the Blackwater money is hidden so that he can “get it himself”.
@rootintootinnewton4 жыл бұрын
Honestly Micah was an amazing character, his writing is stellar and it's like he goes out of his way to make you hate him.
@fraustpunk4 жыл бұрын
Even his voice acting somehow makes him hateable. Every word he says makes him sound shady.
@locococo89614 жыл бұрын
@@fraustpunk Triple post, Jesus fuck dude
@fraustpunk4 жыл бұрын
@@locococo8961 wasn’t me.
@STAND-ALONE4 жыл бұрын
So true! He is my most hated nemesis I’ve ever came across in a video game!
@coolgurl20334 жыл бұрын
@@fraustpunk yeah his voice actor did a good job
@TheJotaroKujo4 жыл бұрын
He was an O'Driscoll. Keep in mind he set up the "parlay" between Dutch and Colm. Yes, it was Pearson the one who talked to them, but Micah is suspiciously trying his hardest to make it happen. Since when did he care about the gang getting into trouble? Just that one occasion is when he said they should cut outsome fights. He happily embraces and creates every other one. And of course, the fact that this parlay was a trap is the key. Micah was the one who said Arthur should cover them with a sniper rifle. This was deliberate and it was his intention all along. Getting rid of Arthur. Notice how Micah acts friendly towards Arthur, trying to earn his approval, in chapter 2. But that stops in chapter 3, which is when this O'Driscoll meeting happens, he most likely realized Arthur was never going to trust him and he was the main threat, since he was Dutch's right hand man. And this is where it gets really interesting. The O'Driscolls had a deal with the pinkertons. Colm himself says this to Arthur. His plan was to give them Dutch to save himself. And this makes perfect sense, the O'Driscolls were a way bigger gang, all over the map, making a lot more noise... you'd think the O'Driscolls would be the priority, and not Dutch's gang. Unless... they had a deal with the law. Micah was the man inside Dutch's gang, he'd feed the info to Colm, who would report to the Pinkertons. Isn't it funny that Colm knew about the train heist? This was the real story of how the Pinkertons knew about Dutch's moves, the St. Denis bank... etc It makes a lot of sense. And of course, once O'Driscoll died in chapter 6, after Guarma, the middle man was cut and Micah answered directly to the Pinkertons.
@micahbell84794 жыл бұрын
👏 you just changed my mind
@insertcringynamehere4 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything except the train heist. Dutch got that tip from Kieran, an O’Driscoll.
@risk54854 жыл бұрын
Way too underrated also maybe add a tldr segment there
@BigBoss-yr6re4 жыл бұрын
I thought so too, I always thought micah was an o'driscoll. I mean even in strawberry he gets information about a wagon he and Arthur rob. Yes he does kill the guy but the o'driscolls all know dutch's gang members so he would have recognized micah, especially when he was sharing a jail cell with him. Yet still gave him information. Yes Micah says the guy was bragging about ''hitting it on the regular'' but seriously what kind of outlaw sits in a jail cell bragging about other crimes they had committed further incriminating themselves? This game is purposely filled with subtle hints.
@yaujj654 жыл бұрын
I think the theory is supported with the fact that Micah kind of act more of a O'Discroll than a van der Lande. I bet that Com planted Micah into the gang to sabotage them into destruction. From Blackwater to the fateful incident in the mountains.
@saylorp27865 жыл бұрын
I never trusted micah. his horse baylock looks just like the low honor horse from rdr1
@1230-v1d5 жыл бұрын
It is the low honor horse in rdr1
@goncman5 жыл бұрын
Saylor :P it’s based off that lol
@TwistedSecrets7775 жыл бұрын
Well CowPoke I didn't trust you either!!
@Scorecatron5 жыл бұрын
Baylock is the low honour horse in my head canon, especially because he was covered in scars, which I like to think he got when I was chucking dynamite at the gang members, chasing John and I.
@McCbobbish5 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for that horse. It must suck to have Micah as a master.
@Herandro_just_Herandro2 жыл бұрын
BTW, have anyone noticed that when the gang left the camp to rescue little Jack Marston from the Braithwaite farm, Dutch ordered Micah and Kieran to stay at the camp and kill anyone they didn't know who could eventually arrive. But when the gang came back... Micah was nowhere to be found.
@Jws202 жыл бұрын
Still upset Kieran wasn’t allowed to come along, him being somewhat compared to Micah is disgusting and it’s how I knew Dutch was a horrible leader since chapter 3
@juniorlago67372 жыл бұрын
@@Jws20 right? I mean, it's not like he barely knows the dude who was just part of the gang of his deadly enemy for many years Why wouldn't he trust this almost complete stranger?
@Jws202 жыл бұрын
@@juniorlago6737 exactly, Kieran was a great gunman and a trusted gang member and everyone treated him like shit
@devonchapman39322 жыл бұрын
@@Jws20 he was always thr first one working in the morning
@noriakipolpo8653 Жыл бұрын
Dutch was a shitty leader people say there were a second rat since the Saint Denis heist was failed but in reality Angelo bronte was just waaay smarter then dutch and just predicted they would rob the bank
@johndasalty1113 жыл бұрын
When it finally came down to it, Micah knew that Arthur would eventually try and get rid of him, so he got rid of everyone who would have sided with him, except Grimshaw, whom he shot anyway, Leaving Arthur all alone. Bill and Javier were blinded by loyalty to Dutch so they didn't side with Arthur. Charles was up in the reservation, helping people. Sadie was taking Abigail, Jack and Tilly to safety. Karen was...already gone...all the non-gun users that would have stood by Arthur fled (Uncle, Mary-Beth, Pearson, Swanson, Trelawny) Sean, who hated Micah, was set up and killed by the Grays, probably after Micah let out information. Kieran, was betrayed by Micah, who probably led him away from camp then gave him up to the O'Driscolls. Lenny and Hosea, died because Micah spoke about the bank job. And John was shot and left for dead by Dutch, probably under the encouragement of Micah. Arthur had no allies because Micah made sure they were all dead and/or gone. But there's one person left who's mentality is very interesting: Molly. She was the only one who noticed something going on with Dutch that no one else did until chapter 6. In chapter 3 and also 4 I think, Molly kept trying to tell Arthur that something was up with Dutch but kept getting interrupted. She realised that no one would take her seriously or even hear her out, so she fled the gang, probably knowing what Micah was doing, but was unable to stop it. When she returned, she was boasting about telling the pinkertons about the bank, which in her mind was probably the only way she would make Dutch listen to her. This however unfortunately led to her death. On paper, she's the most unimportant character in the story, yet when you look deeper, she was written incredibly well.
@paul756093 жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense 👍👍
@fullsendabeerforme29882 жыл бұрын
Okay. I’ll bite. I won’t antagonize her anymore through my next playthroughs
@fullsendabeerforme29882 жыл бұрын
@@thechameleon3791 John marston didn’t go to school, he was tought by Dutch. Change that name and profile picture because your not fuckin worthy of it
@scroopynooperz90512 жыл бұрын
The Red Red Redemption saga actually all revolves around Micah - he was the seminal character that ultimately brought about the redemption of both Arthur and John. Micah was the chosen one - the instrument of the mysterious gentleman in the top-hat. Micah saved both Arthur and John from a life of wanton criminal excesses and murder, putting them on a path to redemption. Micah always gets the hate but he is just a misunderstood character doing gods work. Would the story of Jesus Christ be as potent or transcending if not for the dealings of Judas Iscariot? He had to have known his name would be hated for eternity.. but he helped in creating the lore, sacrificing his own character anyways. By that same token, we have Micah.
@storm0fnova2 жыл бұрын
Micah is more of a rabid dog than the tactical schemer you describe him to be. this entire video plays on the false assumption that Micah has the intellectual capacity to pull that off. He's just a sloppy idiot who's wild actions made him an easy target for the pinkertons.
@ブルンバーグ4 жыл бұрын
You missed two minor details that I wanna point out real quick- 1) if you go to Micah’s camp after the stagecoach mission, you’ll find a newspaper scrap with Dutch’s name and a reward, indicating that he may have had ideas of turning on Dutch well before the Pinkertons told Arthur. 2) in the mission where Arthur is jumped by the O’Driscolls and taken hostage, it was Micah who gave the idea to Dutch. Even Hosea claims that it’s a trap, to which Micah replies “it probably is.” Could this mean that Micah was also talking to the O’Driscolls and not just the Pinkertons?
@obiden52864 жыл бұрын
And he said micha met Dutch and joined the gang in 1891 but I think it was 1898
@N120Xeno4 жыл бұрын
I saw a comment saying that Micah might’ve been not a Pinkerton mole but a O’Driscoll mole. It makes sense as the O’Driscolls had connections with the Pinkertons.
@ApatheticBeaver4 жыл бұрын
Pearson was the one who ran into the odriscolls, and Micah never had any contact. He just told Dutch.
@lewanbroski5043 жыл бұрын
@@ApatheticBeaver Micah would have let them known to talk to Pearson about this when Pearson goes into town if Micah gave them the idea it would have looked real suspect
@osamabeanladen7343 жыл бұрын
And during the saint-denis bank heist he’s the only one wearing white so that the pinkertons would know not to shoot him
@jangofett59984 жыл бұрын
I literally failed every mission with Micah cus I was blowing him up, running over. Setting him ablaze or precisely knocking him off a cliff just for satisfaction
@kvonkirk23404 жыл бұрын
My wife would sit and watch and ask "WHY??!!" Every time I did the same. You can also place dynamite or fire just before a cut seen for some fun.
@jamboreecow01464 жыл бұрын
Everyone liked that
@jasonmiles28194 жыл бұрын
Jango Fett You have the highest honor
@garywilliams61244 жыл бұрын
@@kvonkirk2340 YES lmao! though I do that with everybody. I also love doing it in GTA
@micahbell5654 жыл бұрын
giggles
@grass51832 жыл бұрын
During Arthur’s death scene I wasn’t very sad throughout the whole fist fight or even him crawling, but whenDutch stepped on his hand is just wrecked me.
@EternalNightingale Жыл бұрын
Arthur saying he tried to dutch in his last words got me and then when he passed looking at the sunrise really got me looking back in chapter to 2 camp conversation with Hosea how’d you like to die, Arthur just said face me towards the the sunrise I broke down
@ScarKxngg Жыл бұрын
Yea I started crying like a baby fr but it’s alright I just beat the game yesterday fr longest play through of my life but it was worth it fr 😢
@Alexander_Grant Жыл бұрын
@@ScarKxngg fr
@Aganie.8 ай бұрын
Same actually, the betrayal really hurts
@shoazdon70006 ай бұрын
Maybe the rat was Dutch all along. That would be a twist lol
@FischerFilmStudio4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel bad for Javier. He’s only ever been a victim of having no direction in life.
@guymankiker86634 жыл бұрын
Yea he wouldn't even point his guns at John and Arthur when Dutch told the gang to.
@kiki_de4 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you played the first RDR you should know how Javier really is.
@deependcuration4 жыл бұрын
It was tough to kill Javier in Mexico in rdr because of this. Bill had a follower mentality, Javier just needed a cause to believe in
@tf2sniperstanaccount8414 жыл бұрын
I definitely care for Javier more than Bill or Dutch, but it still felt great to yank him off of his horse and feed him to the wolves in rdr1. a coward who would rather hold onto tatters of what once was than do what's right, and he pays the price for it.
@deependcuration4 жыл бұрын
@@tf2sniperstanaccount841 what once was... well said
@idk57164 жыл бұрын
Rockstar wrote Micah’s character so well and his acting was amazing. People don’t give the actor a lot of credit. The reason we hate Micah so much is because of how good the actor played him
@laurynasjagelo50753 жыл бұрын
spot on. Best characters brings out real emotions. Negative emotions are always the strongest.
@quanahriddle30653 жыл бұрын
I don't know the voice actor for Micah, but I have so much respect for him. I have not seen many actors who could make me hate their character as much as that guy.
@honor62003 жыл бұрын
Yes, he is a great villain, they really go out of their way to make you hate him. Hell, even Micah's va hates him
@twistedoperator44223 жыл бұрын
Anyone who knows about the voice actor gives him credit.
@racersolid94433 жыл бұрын
The va is so good that some dumbass sends him a threat via letter.
@mullemeck50154 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, Charles and Micah are special gang members. Charles had a big impact on Arthur to become a good man. Micah had a huge impact on Dutch to become crazy. And they both didn’t even have to be with the gang for over a year to change it.
@connor44354 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they’re polar opposites, one is a good man who impacts Arthur for the better without wanting to kill innocents and he’s extremely buff whereas the other is a bad rat who impacts Dutch for the worse encouraging him to recklessly kill anyone who gets in his way and he’s rather fat
@Nai-qk4vp3 жыл бұрын
@@connor4435 Also, the way I saw it it's also significant how Charles default outfit does not include a coat but Micah and Arthur do. Arthur is a light brown. The colour of earth. "Down to earth" meaning, genuine. But also representing poverty and sadness. Arthur expresses a great amount of self loathing throughout all of the story, believing himself to.be nothing but a bad man. And yet multiple people tell him that for all of his supposed badness, he is also loyal, reliable and to a degree, selfless. It takes until he is reminded of his mortality,, but by then he is only become more of what he already was, and sheds this metaphorical coat of supposed filth of character and poverty of morals for him to show his metaphorical blue of a kind, selfless and honourable man determined to , in spite of all the bad he has caused, do some measure of good before his time comes to an end. Whereas Micah wears a black coat and red shirt, showing there is no inner goodness and is a monster through and through.. And then there is his hat. Typically in old western movies the villain wears a back hat and the hero a white one. Arthur the outlaw with a black hat. As per our initial impressions and conventions of westerns. The black hat symbolises a constrast with the white of the villain of the story, inverting the usual expectations and also ties with his betrayal of the gang. As well as the Pinkertons themselves. Wearing grey, the colour of neutrality and balance. But grey is also the colour of concrete and of his ever expanding desolate world of capitalism. And they too wear red beneath this literal and metaphorical coat, showing they are no better then the supposed criminals they fight. And finally Dutch. We tend to associate black with evil. But also Dutch is a very well dressed man. So an outlaw but also a gentleman, and someone fighting(supposedly) for a better world. Yet when we see him cime fully undone, Arthur and John believe that contrary to what Sadie thinks, that Dutch changed for the worse, they believe he was always this way and just finally showed his true colours. And that ties into his outfit again. Dark representing evil again and portraying how Dutch only shed his coat to reveal his evil nature.
@nab_tm3 жыл бұрын
@@Nai-qk4vp no one reading the whole ass essay😭💀
@chekschnuksout94333 жыл бұрын
@@nab_tm i did and I really liked it
@scottpodleski58343 жыл бұрын
@@chekschnuksout9433 Same here, a fantastic read.
@MrOgge503 жыл бұрын
It’s possible that Micah’s motive for staying with the gang was to turn Dutch in, causing all the commotion and bringing unwanted attention to the gang to get that opportunity, only teaming up with the pinkertons later to make his goal easier. I haven’t seen this for myself but apparently if one visits Micah’s camp that he set up in West Elizabeth when him and Arthur rob a stagecoach together one can find a wanted poster for Dutch with a bounty. Why would Micah be carrying something like that around? It may be a bit far fetched but it is at the same round possible and would very easily explain his motive for staying with the gang. His reason for not going to a local sheriff to rat out Dutch right away could be because he wants to get the money from blackwater that he just can’t shut up about first, take it for himself and then turn Dutch in, claim the prize for him and leave the rest of the gang to it’s fate.
@karenamyx22052 жыл бұрын
I agree. Likely, he was playing ALL sides. People always ask if hes the rat from the start because of Ferry Job, but couldnt he have fed them some info without like FULLY being a Pinkerton double agent? I mean, maybe his plan was to use Dutch to help him get the big pay day on the ferry, but ALSO get the Pinkerton's on Dutch. Maybe for the Bounty, or maybe so HE could slip away with the whole payday, leaving us and the agents busy with each other. When this didnt work, well.. he was kinda stuck with us because Dutch got away from the agents, AND had the ferry money. Not much else he COULD do, but rely on us. But still looking for any advantage he could take, at the sacrifice of anyone else. Probably why he was looking at the bounty. Then after Guarma, if he did in fact get picked up, and was now at the mercy of angry agents.. THEN he went full rat. I think that's why the game distinguishes it this way through Milton's Dialogue. So... was he the rat from the start? Yes, and no. He played both sides from the start and contributed to us being set up. But it wasnt until he got arrested that the threat of the agents was now more important then using Dutch for money and protection. So he had to stop playing sides and went full rat. That's my theory.
@MrOgge502 жыл бұрын
@@karenamyx2205 Yea that’s a good one too
@ballllllder22 жыл бұрын
It would also explain why the pinkertons appeared so fast after John killed him. He was probably going to turn Dutch in.
@harry-xk4wc2 жыл бұрын
Totley agree and micah is a rat
@someguyinazoo2 жыл бұрын
For once 8 I agree with Micah,Dutch should have been turned in
@azultarmizi4 жыл бұрын
ah, if only Arthur left him in strawberry and got to see he swing
@Smoking_Man4 жыл бұрын
* *star wars credits play* *
@bashboi40744 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see that be some kind of failing that mission. Like if you didn't do it in a certain timeframe you'd get word that Micah was dead or when you eventually went you'd see him strung up and then get the failed mission thing before starting in earnest
@sl9wdive4 жыл бұрын
If i was Arthur, after breaking him out of the jail, i would've shoot Micah myself and tell Dutch that he got killed by the lawman while trying to flee Strawberry
@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong4 жыл бұрын
@@sl9wdive Right? It's a pretty perfect setup for a double-cross. The gang's still reeling from the loss of other members by that point, so Micah dying tragically in a shootout would just be another regrettable loss, and just checking a newspaper would confirm Arthur's assertion that it was a shitshow. Plus, they wouldn't even be able to recover the body on account of the swarms of lawmen.t God Arthur missed a golden oppurtunity.
@samgardner46674 жыл бұрын
He wouldn’t have swung
@justachap13475 жыл бұрын
Should’ve left him to be hanged in Strawberry.
@moodyowlproductions42875 жыл бұрын
If only
@Arthur_Morgan4594 жыл бұрын
I tried but I couldn't continue
@michaelmillican55924 жыл бұрын
If only it were an option...
@TheRealS8tn4 жыл бұрын
Yes I Should Have
@brsvideos81434 жыл бұрын
When we didn't get the choice to just leave him in jail I knew he'd be nothing but trouble.
@loganhunter77174 жыл бұрын
I called Sean's death. Just sitting there I said to myself "I got a bad feeling about this." And as soon as i said that Sean got domed
@jamboreecow01464 жыл бұрын
That scene scared me to death ( no pun intended)
@coltonwood15484 жыл бұрын
You mean the exact same time Arthur said “ I got a bad feeling about this” ??
@them.4 жыл бұрын
Really, out of those 4, Sean was the only one who could die. Arthur is the main character, and it would be weird to kill the main character halfway through. Bill is in Red Dead 1. Micah has plenty of plot relevance as Arthur's foil even before he becomes the most hated man alive - I mean, at this point, he was still a brash, murderous, racist dickhead, but I didn't consider him any worse than Milton or Strauss until it was clear that he was manipulating Dutch
@obiden52864 жыл бұрын
Ha
@CrawDad6694 жыл бұрын
@@coltonwood1548 I know lol, Arthur said the exact same thing this guy can be serious
@mike1967sam2 жыл бұрын
My theory about Micah Bell was that it was a set up from the beginning of the story. From day one Micah was feeding information to the Pinkertons and here's why. In Micah's camp behind Strawberry we can find a Wanted poster for Dutch van der Linde. It seems old Micah was looking for a way to collect the bounty, but Micah's always been a coward, he can't act alone, he's insecure hence his solitary behaviour. Nevertheless, Micah's a master manipulator. I think that the Pinkertons picked him up and found Dutch's wanted poster on him and made a deal with him which was to penetrate Van Der Linde's gang and feed information on a regular basis to the Pinkertons. Micah would get as close as possible to Dutch in order to know his every move and report back to the Pinkertons and when they got Dutch they'd give the bounty to Micah and let him go free but at the same time I think Ol' Micah was playing both sides.
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj94572 жыл бұрын
Coward? He's bastard all right, but I really wouldn't call him that, considering how nonchalant he seemed about being almost killed multiple times.
@DarthGardens2 жыл бұрын
@@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 the first thing he does in the game is call other people "yello bellied" (cowards), and then he doesnt get on the train with everhone else. Through the game, hes a bully who coerces others to do things, but Micah himself does very little. I think its safe to call him a coward.
@DarthGardens2 жыл бұрын
@@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 hes a coward, but hes not worried about ethics or morality. Hes worried about his own skin.
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj94572 жыл бұрын
@@DarthGardens There's a difference between self-preservation and cowardice. And there's a lot of evidence pointing towards the hypothesis, that he never planned to get along with others in the gang and that also leads into the theory, he pretty much planned to play all three sides, meaning that if Dutch succeeds in his plans, he will continue to rob with him, if he didn't, he'll hand him off to pinkertons or Colm O'Driscoll, who he also seems to have friends inside to probably do the same or all three. Even if, all of theory-stuff isn't true, you can't deny his lax reaction towards his own death in epilogue, he was like "eh, guess, I'll die".
@joshuahadley7762 жыл бұрын
I think that the gang was just sloppy and had a way higher opinion of themselves then they deserved, the Wild West is going and they aren’t long for the world
@redisdead628-2.04 жыл бұрын
In the saint denis bank heist micah was wearing white, while everybody else was in black, could be a sign that he was working with them, since they would not want to shoot their mole, he needed to stand out, also, he barely hit a pinkerton during the heist
@zone64843 жыл бұрын
You’re right that would make since
@Christian-973 жыл бұрын
Lenny wore a light suit as well.
@c.o79933 жыл бұрын
@@Christian-97 yeah but he's a black man All you have to say is "look for the fucker with blonde hair and a white suit, he's our guy" And I doubt there'd be any confusion
@laurene9883 жыл бұрын
@@Christian-97 yeah but Micah only had to stand out agaisnt the white gang members to be fair. Lenny could wear whatever he wants he's not going to be mistaken for Micah
@spikepachita60263 жыл бұрын
I just think its his character design. He also wears a white hat all the time
@bigpurrwrld34795 жыл бұрын
Jack was the rat while Micah was just covering for him
@sinn46505 жыл бұрын
Wow Micah was a nice Guy all along!
@samueljonathan61015 жыл бұрын
Wtf Jack??!
@gustarddonut14525 жыл бұрын
SnazzyNewt 717 he ratted the gang out for spaghetti
@lewisofthehoood5 жыл бұрын
StHeEm0rE’s DaNk what if Angelo Bronte is jacks real dad? Papa Bronte?
@Kevin-oh9ov5 жыл бұрын
Listen here you little shit
@DoubleU1595 жыл бұрын
Rest of gang: greet Micah and Straus: antagonize
@MariusBoss114585 жыл бұрын
Strauss? What did he do except the TB on Arthur
@DoubleU1595 жыл бұрын
Marius Boss if Straus didn’t exist, Arthur never gets TB. If Arthur never gets TB, we get to wipe the floor with Micah’s ass. Also his practice is pretty scummy. Arthur says something about robbing fools that rob other fools but Straus preys on the weak and desperate.
@voodoo20065 жыл бұрын
@@DoubleU159 If Arthur didnt get TB, his amazing redemption arc wouldnt exist. Thus should be Red Dead Outlaw.
@DoubleU1595 жыл бұрын
Shahkarif100 Gaming it wouldn’t have been as compelling but I still think Arthur would’ve started to see dutch turning. Micah was still manipulating the gang and Arthur starts trying to be good even before he knows he has TB or starts to feel the effects. I wouldn’t have the story any other way than it was portrayed, don’t get me wrong, but Arthur deserved a better life.
@AbysmalRandomn3ss5 жыл бұрын
DoubleU159 Arthur getting sick was the only reason he changed into such a huge 180
@kratos6923 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice? In the last mission of Epilogue 2, when John, Sadie and Charles went to confront Micah, John was wearing Arthur's hat by default.
@Droidsbane2 жыл бұрын
nope, mainly because I always had it on my John when I got the chance to have it on his head. nice attention to detail though
@TrainedArcTrooper Жыл бұрын
wait really, thats so cool
@moodyowlproductions4287 Жыл бұрын
I know right....
@hiyapal77194 жыл бұрын
12:08 The *reason* that Micah stayed with the gang and didn't leave was because of the Blackwater money. He had no idea where Dutch had it stashed, so he buzzed Dutch's head like a fly to...
@chikowashere3 жыл бұрын
It's so obvious that he was gonna betray them, that it's actually offensive how much trust Dutch had in him.
@andrewp82842 жыл бұрын
I guess because Micah saved Dutch, Dutch had a massive “blind spot” for Micah (also because Micah is manipulative anyways), because the Blackwater heist was Micah’s own lead and it’s thought to have been a set-up. Being new to the gang, Micah lies at the convergence of these “coincidences.”
@redshirt492 жыл бұрын
@@andrewp8284 It doesn't help that the decline in Dutch's famed sharp mind started well before the game even begins. By the end he is full of his own hubris, he thought himself unassailable and couldn't fathom the idea that Micah was lying to him and always had been. That he had put his chips on the wrong bet that lead to the deaths of so many of his family and caused him to abandon others willfully. There are so many theories floating around that Dutch had always been a callous narc and that his "mask" just slowly faded away in time, and that the person he was at the end was the real him. I don't really subscribe to that theory. Dutch much more strongly resembles an idealist who becomes increasingly disillusioned and digs his heels in deeper and deeper because he can't come to grips with the fact that he's not as smart as he thought he was and that he was the one being played and used for a change. It's pretty strongly hinted that Micah was always only after the gang's money and potentially the bounty on Dutch. He pretty much singlehandedly disbanded the gang, leaving the gangs SIGNIFICANT stash of money in Blackwater for himself, he only kept Dutch around in the end because he needed him to lead him to the stash's location. Dutch, broken though he was, realized this by the end and spends the rest of his life bitter and stubbornly forging ahead on a path that he knew would end in his own death. It's rather sad actually, though his idealism was broken he could have used his wits to have that idyllic retirement in the wilds he'd always wanted but just didn't see the point anymore.
@micahbell10092 жыл бұрын
He chose the right side because of that we survived and made a new gang.. But dat didn't really work out.
@unfortunately_fortunate20002 жыл бұрын
@@andrewp8284 Dutch's whole thing is loyalty, just like Javier and Bill he has a perverted sense of loyalty and he deludes himself further and further with it until its just plain old selfishness.
@Fredfredbug42 жыл бұрын
Dutch hates when people question his authority. After Blackwater the only one who wasn't questioning him was Micah.
@abysswalker13295 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the mission “Blessed are the meek” where Micah wanted to (very out of character) make peace with the O’Driscols. Then he told Arthur where to guard via sniper and he was abducted. Then Dutch went back with him without looking for Arthur at all...
@MariusBoss114585 жыл бұрын
Well good choice for dutch Because if he did then The law will get him
@Cornholio45 жыл бұрын
it is the mission blessed are the peacemakers tho
@micahbellonline94625 жыл бұрын
Yah, but that was Pearson's idea. You know Pearson? The fat guy that ends up having his own store...? One of the real rats. He got out pretty ez if you ask me...having his own store and no lawman on his back.......Weird.
@crimdus50415 жыл бұрын
Micah Bell Online Pearson wasn’t a gunslinger like Arthur and basically everyone else. They wanted the big hitters.
@micahbellonline94625 жыл бұрын
@@crimdus5041 Well, that's poor writting then. No one would ever get away with being in the gang of a notorious criminal and murderer like Dutch. Would never happen back then, would never happen today. Pearson is a fat squealer. And how did he get that store, where did he get the money? Just makes no sense. I got a feeling the gang was infested with many rats.
@rockyfalldownstairs2 жыл бұрын
This is the exact thinking I had once I learned Micah was the rat in chapter 6. I put two and two together and said: "wait, Micah planned Blackwater". I think Arthur thought this too because he says its all clear to him now when confronting Micah.
@danteferraro232 жыл бұрын
true even arthur knows it
@Dmcs19175 жыл бұрын
The only good thing Micah ever does is give Arthur an off hand holster and a Lancaster repeater Edit: thanks for 1k likes pals
@Uchiha_Teivan5 жыл бұрын
DroppingV2s Lancaster
@Dmcs19175 жыл бұрын
Sry
@Stormertheboy5 жыл бұрын
DMCS19 he only did that just to blind Arthur and make peace with him
@Dmcs19175 жыл бұрын
@@Stormertheboy I know that but even then
@reichtanglevictor16945 жыл бұрын
Lancaster is my favourite weapon
@ghostwarrior38785 жыл бұрын
I have a strong feeling that if Arthur hadn't died from tuberculosis or if he hadn't gotten it he would have killed Micah himself
@kiana62735 жыл бұрын
Ghost Warrior 38 He definitely would, Micah wouldn’t stand a chance. The only reason Micah went after Arthur was because he took notice he was sick and weak, if it weren’t for his TB, Arthur would stomp that piece of shit into the ground
@joshuabass16564 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah arthur would have whooped his sorry ass
@TheRealS8tn4 жыл бұрын
I Would Have Won If It Wasn’t For That Damn Tuberculosis
@kiana62734 жыл бұрын
Arthur Morgan Yes, you would have... 😔 You would have stomped his ass into dust
@exemplar72054 жыл бұрын
In the high honour ending though he does win the fight he knocks him to the ground to the point where he almost grabs a gun and shoots him, if it wasnt for dutch standing on it micah would have been dead and John would have been okay
@krusk35444 жыл бұрын
Something important to note: When Colm O'Driscole wanted to meet, Micah was a big advocate of going to the meet. He convinced Dutch to drag along Arthur and put him in a sniper position. Considering Colm outright stated that Arthur was the target all along so he could draw out the Van Der Linde gang and let them get caught by the cops, real convinient that Micah had the idea to seperate Arthur and Colm happened to know where he was and put a man there to jump him. Awfully convinient.
@connor44354 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw someone say that Micah might have actually been an O’Driscole and I think that makes sense, he always hated Kieran and I can’t think of any instance where they spend time together, he might have had the O’Driscoles wait for Kieran to wonder off in particular so that Kieran wouldn’t realise that Micah was actually part of the gang
@fadedflame25374 жыл бұрын
I don’t necessarily think that’s true, one of the whole things about rdr2 that not many people notice is that, the vanderline gang is getting sloppy and predictable, that’s why the saint Denis bank robbery goes wrong, they just made too much noise and with bronte as well as all the shootings in the city it’s purely just sloppy.
@ayylmao83754 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a lot more likely that Colm just wanted his own snipers on that ledge. Micah was so insistent because he needed to get back on Dutch’s good side after strawberry
@momimhome75404 жыл бұрын
@@connor4435 Wouldn’t Kieran already know that Micah was an O’Driscoll? I highly doubt that he wouldn’t say anything to Dutch.
@connor44354 жыл бұрын
@@momimhome7540 the ODriscol gang was very big and so there’s a good chance Kieran wouldn’t even have known Micah (especially since Kieran sounds like a new recruit and Micah could’ve been undercover by that point) but Micah might’ve just been paranoid about it
@MotherCow712 жыл бұрын
Micah is the physical embodiment of the seven deadly sins. Also if you visit the camp Micah made after the Strawberry shoot out and complete the stagecoach mission, you can find a news paper snippet of Dutch's bounty.
@antone.60034 жыл бұрын
It always puzzled me that Dutch would let Micah into the Van Der Linde family, when he does nothing to hide his racism. Dutch always talk about wanting the best for the gang but doesnt even tell Micah off when he spews hateful comments at Javier, Charles, Lenny and Tilly. People who are 100x more beloved by the rest of the gang.
@Dalt1n9994 жыл бұрын
I think it's bc Dutch hated racism, but he loved people who sucked up to him more than he hated racism
@connor44354 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember any moments when Micah was openly racist in front of Dutch and I think with Micah always stroking Dutch’s ego and siding with him he could just deny his racism and Dutch would believe him
@Andy1SH4 жыл бұрын
I hated tilly for some reason
@henrykoerner32144 жыл бұрын
Hosea at one point tells Lenny not to buy into all of Dutchs fancy talk. That it doesnt actually mean anything. Hosea would know, hes ran with Dutch from the beginning. There is a lot of hints through out the game that Dutch does not really care about any of the members of the gang. And when he appears to its because it benefits him to do so. For example sending Javier, Charles and Arthur to save Sean was an attempt to save face after the disaster that was the boat heist in Blackwater. The gang is on the ropes and Dutch can tell peoples faith in him has been shaken. He makes no mention of attempting to locate and rescue Mac. Prior to the fishing trip with Jack no one knew for sure what Macs fate was.
@jamir54774 жыл бұрын
Henry Koerner Reminds me of when Kieran said the O’driscolls are similar to the van der lindes
@SimmaChode5 жыл бұрын
I always noticed the camp choice too. My first time playing I was like "wtf kind of location is this? It's not even hidden.".
@PrinceGummy5 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@stayfrostyyeah46335 жыл бұрын
Hooligan Tim that’s why micah wanted the gang to hide just in that dry creek in the end of chapter 2 so the agents would find them easy
@erikallen38044 жыл бұрын
Micah must have only 2 working brain cells to think that Arthur and Charles would think the location is hidden when it’s literally right beside a railroad track.
@agw24685 жыл бұрын
Just one question: Why didn't Arthur spit on Micah?
@ShadowCim5 жыл бұрын
In the final fist fight between Micha and Arthur, Arthur bites his knuckle, shouldn´t that have infected him?? Would have been intressting if when John got to MT hagen, Micah was coughting a lot and looking rather weak lmao. As if Arthur got the last laugh in the end
@thebournlegacy56315 жыл бұрын
ShadowCim if you remember in the game, it states somewhere (I don’t remember where) that sometimes symptoms take months, sometimes even years to manifest. There is a chance that Micah was infected but the symptoms hadn’t manifested yet, hence why even if Arthur spit in his face, there would be no guarantee he would have gotten sick and died shortly thereafter, he definitely would have gotten sick and died but there was no telling when that would have happened. Him being on top of that mountain tho and living the way he did however would have sped up that process had John not tracked him down and filled him with more led than a 3 world country kid with lead poisoning
@lebron71875 жыл бұрын
Micah would just infect innocent people then
@blessedxxiii55835 жыл бұрын
LeBron that's probably why he didn't spit on him then seems logical that way
@mrp78745 жыл бұрын
Why would you purposefully spread tb? Micah would just pass it on to someone else and so on and so on. Bad idea.
@biz26 Жыл бұрын
I also noticed that when Jack first went missing, everyone at the camp was crowded around Dutch worried while Micah was just sat by the fire sharpening his knife
@vignegang5084 жыл бұрын
*Dutch shoots Micah* Micah: You shot me pretty good Marston: Hold my Hair Tonic
@mileschow59614 жыл бұрын
PEW PEW PEW
@RainTube4 жыл бұрын
Ross: Hold my cigar Jack: Hold my book
@micahbell5654 жыл бұрын
yee haw
@grocerytag4 жыл бұрын
@@micahbell565 you have yee yee ass haircut
@PLANDerLinde993 жыл бұрын
@@micahbell565 You yeed your last haw, Micah
@equiaux4 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until Arthur grabs the Gatling Gun
@donatoerricocastelli26533 жыл бұрын
the pinkerton in front of Arthur in that moment " Well... shit"
@geauxburns5 жыл бұрын
Micah was also the one who insisted on the Peace Talks between Colm and Dutch resulting in Arthur being captured. Never really liked the idea of Micah being a rat, since having Molly being the one who tipped off the Pinkerton's made more sense. However, Micah being a survivor wanted Arthur out of the way in order to take his place within the Van der Linde Gang. Furthermore, some have theorized that Dutch suffering a head injury during the failed Trolly job in Saint Denis might have also played a factor in Micah's favor along with the loss of Hosea shortly afterwards. Even without him being a rat, Micah was already a pretty bad piece of work. Great vid Fizhy, another dea; is Baylock (Micah's horse) and Dark Horse from RDR1 one-in-the-same?
@jakeen2295 жыл бұрын
How did Molly make more sense then Micha? Molly was one of the first people who was warning Arthur about Dutch decline and she, In all intent, was genuine.
@jakeen2295 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you on the trolly head incident
@Max-wc6zy5 жыл бұрын
Serious Thought because she felt Dutch had betrayed her and hated him while Micah had no reason to hate Dutch
@garretthaslam38695 жыл бұрын
Moto Moto it wasn’t hate that made him a rat it was self preservation
@UGLYBOYwrld5 жыл бұрын
GeauxBurns nothing in rdr2 that belongs to a character that wasn’t planned until the making of rdr2 then 100% that characters belongings arent in rdr1 when will people understand this
@TheOneTrueClovehitch3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling Micah probably "accidentally" left travel plans and shit at old camps when they left more than once before chapter six so that people would find it. He loves chaos so...it'd make sense he would Intentionally sabotage everything and want everyone to get killed.
@gumbyshrimp26064 жыл бұрын
“We picked him up and he’s been a good boy ever since” Maybe Micah wasn’t just found, but he went to the Pinkertons once he got off the boat. Maybe “good boy ever since” could also mean he was working with them in the past but went against orders and they set him straight.
@kvonn32894 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he was working with them cuz I always wonder where Micah was when he wasn’t at the camp and when the o discrolls ambushed us at shady belle when Kieran got killed
@josephstalin26064 жыл бұрын
Kvonn Nah only like half the gang was at shady belle when the o driscolls attacked. Trelawney, Javier, and Lenny for example were also not there so I don’t think Micah had anything to do with that
@aj-sj6xc3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was weird like, how come they could have just taken him ? I am pretty sure that if they would have met Micah on the way from the docks then they would have taken all the other members also. It is very likely that he just went to the Pinkertons nearest camp and told them what happened.
@joshuagross31513 жыл бұрын
@@aj-sj6xc They were all dropped off at separate points and times.
@STEELGMBL3 жыл бұрын
Micah is not a government agent man y'all are dumb😂
@shelleyorr81744 жыл бұрын
If Arthur didn’t have tb and you did the knife fight, Micah would have turned into a goddamn filet-a-fish from McDonald’s
@TheDr_Crow3 жыл бұрын
Absolute mince meat
@maiqtheliar60003 жыл бұрын
Micah would be sliced up into stringy meat
@Kakerural3 жыл бұрын
More like filet-a-rat
@kinorris17092 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine a scene playing out during the Hideout standoff before they flee, with a healthy Arthur challenging Micah. Arthur: "C'mon you RAT! I'LL FILET YOU AND PUT YOU IN THE CAMP STEW" Micah: "oh shit" John: "oh shit" Bill: "oh shit" Javier: "mierda" Dutch: "we need more MONEH"
@ThatOneHippieMan2 жыл бұрын
That’s why Micah waited for him to get weaker before attacking him because he knew Arthur would fucking absolutely destroy him if he was healthy
@fabes0053 жыл бұрын
Hosea didn’t deserve to die. Especially like that.
@skvlxc3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@tacizza3 жыл бұрын
It was horrible to watch him curl up on the ground after being shot
@jalenikezeue41143 жыл бұрын
@@tacizza The Moment Hosea was Gone Everything 😭 Fell apart
@joshuagross31513 жыл бұрын
Hosea might've been the other rat.
@jalenikezeue41143 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagross3151 NO Way I don't Believe That
@mikegermanio3243 жыл бұрын
I'm doing my second playthrough of RDR2 on PC. This time I'm being extremely thorough with exploring the lore, characters, and world. I recently found your videos and they have been a fantastic resource in my efforts. Thank you for the work you've put in. It was a very easy subscribe for me
@Daysbb5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no.... He wanted the bounty of Dutch since the beginning. And when the Pinkertons offer some help he played along
@rickperry31655 жыл бұрын
He saw an opportunity to save Dutch when he met him because he already knew about the price on Dutch's head. Micah figured he could join in and sabotage Dutch with pretending to be loyal and faithful to him, while in the meantime planning to take all the money from the Blackwater robbery and getting the money for Dutch's bounty as well.
@llamalopter87095 жыл бұрын
He probably motivated him to do more high profile actions so he could possibly raise a bounty on Dutch’s head
@br50735 жыл бұрын
Llama Lopter The gang did that themselves. All that mess in Valentine and playing those two families.
@celess215 жыл бұрын
People forget a very important thing. At Micah's hermit camp, you can find only 2 things : Dutch's bounty poster, and a newpaper clip about a murder he did with his father when he was 17. Could there be a link..? I think Micah is only in Dutch's gang for vengeance. His guns, we can suppose were his father's guns, we don't know for sure. But those guns seem more important to Micah than anything else, even risks his life to get them back in Strawberry. What's written on the guns : Vengeance is Hereby Mine. Micah hates Dutch. While Dutch talks about Faith and Hope and Dreams, Micah keeps trashing Faith, and talk about the harsh reality of life, it's very far from Dutch's way of thinking, even the opposite. Micah's family fell apart, something clearly happened. I think Micah wanted to do the same with Dutch's "family" and tear it apart, and succeeded. He won.
@Daysbb5 жыл бұрын
@@celess21 wow Thats a pretty good theory, i like it
@Lovinia14 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel bad for Dutch. Hosea was 80% of his impulse control. Facing his own mortality scares him, but for once in his self-centered life he has no way of controlling it. As he speaks fondly of the way things used to be, “an odd couple (him and hosea) with their unruly child (Arthur)” he realizes how unrealistic it is. While everyone else watches Micah in horror, he reminisces fondly on when Arthur used to be that way. His detached mind interprets it as “youthful exuberance”. He tries to live vicariously with Arthur as the new Hosea, and Micah as Arthur, but neither of them live up to the nostalgic standard. In his last scenes you see him as a quiet, senile man, unable to bear the sight of John, the last link to his past, breaking any semblance of security
@charlessmith56054 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too, especially when Dutch kept saying Arthur reminded him of Hosea twenty-four seven. Though I'm not sure about the Micah part, I honestly wouldn't be surprised though.
@thesymbiotenation.45523 жыл бұрын
@@charlessmith5605 that shows that Dutch was a good man, but like the saying goes "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
@namedoesntmatter93303 жыл бұрын
Ya know Dutch couldn't fight nature, he couldn't fight his own nature he couldn't fight gravity. In the end he paid the price for being unable to control his violent nature and as an act of self destruction, kills himself by backing off a cliff in RDR
@rossl59083 жыл бұрын
Dutch was actually a weak man
@nathanwilliams38773 жыл бұрын
@@rossl5908 very weak. But he & his followers bought his lies & saw him as strong. Noble.
@myboycone21815 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Micah was actually really smart, he manipulated Dutch into what he wanted. Arthur and Hosea didn't like him because how close he got to Dutch so fast.
@justmuppet17655 жыл бұрын
Thats almost as taboo as saying Hitler was really smart. Yet very true
@aliddda3285 жыл бұрын
Micah is the only one Dutch didn't see his heart inside he is hiding a gunslinger inside a gunslinger
@justaguy38255 жыл бұрын
Yeet Skeet that isn’t an unpopular opinion, no one said he’s dumb they just hate him for what he did
@N1sjsjsj5 жыл бұрын
nah Dutch was just insane after Hosea's death
@myboycone21815 жыл бұрын
@DeadlyNeedle ! He manipulated Dutch in many ways, one main point is at the Blackwater massacre. They were going to do a less reward, less danger score but Micah came to Dutch last minute with the boat score high danger, high reward which ended up manifesting into the story of Rdr2. Another example is micah convincing Dutch to kill Leviticus Cornwall in Annesburg.
@KingjakeStudios3 жыл бұрын
11:59 Micah was greedy, and saw Dutch as a money making opportunity. He wanted the gang to grow weak, so he helped the pinkertons to kill off as many gang members as possible to the point it’s just him, Dutch, Cleet and Joe. So when the time’s right, he could turn on Dutch and take the money the gang has made without it being much of a challenge. This is why in chapter 6 Dutch constantly says: “we need more money”. he only said it a few times in chapter 4 because Hosea helped Dutch plan things out. However after he died, micah planned things for Dutch and told him he needed as much money as possible, (including the money in blackwater). This would also explain why he got angry after Dutch turned around on him before Arthur’s death. Because he lost his trust. Therefore he can no longer make any more stacks of money, and he lost the chance to get the money from blackwater.
@rolandvillegas39635 жыл бұрын
The amount of mission fails I have for killing him
@Alexa-hf7pb4 жыл бұрын
Roland Villegas I have never not wanted to kill him
@nextgenstatus4 жыл бұрын
Lol it was still early on, but I wanted to leave his ass in strawberry. And at that point all he really showed was him being a racist and massive asshole.
@Alexa-hf7pb4 жыл бұрын
nextgenstatus when he said that him and Arthur are basically brothers I laughed
@iseveneleven25935 жыл бұрын
There was that one part during the Saint Denis heist when Arthur said "It was a trap, just like that Blackwater job you did." And Micah says "It ain't nothing like that."
@jasondyrkacz82704 жыл бұрын
The response in Saint Denis was incredibly fast.
@deletedchannel69375 жыл бұрын
Micah wanted the blackwater money that’s why he stayed
@celess215 жыл бұрын
If he knew Dutch actually hid the money in his stomach....
@brigader41014 жыл бұрын
That’s probably why he keeps asking Dutch to let him go back to collect.
@tristadarden31594 жыл бұрын
that and he wanted the bounty put on dutch’s head. if you go to the hideout micah had in strawberry after he leaves it, you can see a wanted poster of dutch saying how much the law wants for his head
@rg24244 жыл бұрын
How much was the bounty?
@DaveEllen9674 жыл бұрын
@@rg2424 $10,000
@thirdhandlv4231 Жыл бұрын
Micah didn't alert the Grays or Braithwates, he makes it rather clear after Seans death that his goal is kill them all, even when Bill's life is threatened Micah says ''either way you are a dead man.'' He took that betrayal personally.
@colin3695 жыл бұрын
Noticed while playing on PC that you're required to break Micah out of jail in Strawberry before the train job outside Rhodes in Chapter 2. Suddenly the too fast response of the law makes perfect sense.
@TylerJ04124 жыл бұрын
Its funny how one of the biggest paying scores you get from a story mission, which was the Valentine bank robbery. Was led by Bill Williamson, and was done with Karen, Lenny and Arthur. That job can give you $20G in total, with a $2,500 cut for Arthur. This is also only in chapter 3. I dont remember if there's a mission that gives you anything bigger than that for the gang
@slamwisebamgee4 жыл бұрын
Sodom? Back to Gomorrah was RDR2's version of Four Leaf Clover from GTAIV. Funny, too, because both are bank robberies that get pretty messy, but which are ultimately successful.
@ronintiger4 жыл бұрын
they had enough money to go to tahiti
@simsdiver52014 жыл бұрын
@@ronintiger and to the moon when you factor all that crazy heist money Dutch had been sitting on since Blackwater
@captaindiabetes53853 жыл бұрын
The Saint Denis one was the biggest but (spoiler warning) you didn’t get if because the ship sank
@simsdiver52013 жыл бұрын
The Blackwater heist was the mother lode. Dutch being the true psychopath lunatic that he was, was literally hiding/sitting on some $60,000 from that heist the ENTIRE game. That translates into some $8M+ USD in today's money! He sat on this retirement nest egg and kept getting his ppl killed for no damned reason at all except for sheer greed. All was quiet until Chap 6 when Abigail busted his selfish ass stealing the key to his loot chest.
@ItsTimeIDisappear095 жыл бұрын
"He's a rattttt, Dutch. You know it, I know it..."
@Saveira1615 жыл бұрын
He's lyiiiiiiiiiing
@razor3884 жыл бұрын
' he's sick! He's dying..'
@TheRealS8tn4 жыл бұрын
Burn In Hell Micah!
@GTAandApplechannel4 жыл бұрын
ItsTimeIDisappear09 he is crazy
@buildawall58034 жыл бұрын
@@razor388 COME OOOOOON DUTCH AHHHHHH
@thecowboy96983 жыл бұрын
With the way Micah acts, and how damn-near every time he was around there was nothing but trouble, if it had been revealed that Micah was an undercover Pinkerton agent, sent in as a spy to bring down the gang from the inside, it would've made total sense. In fact, I'm surprised Rockstar didn't go that direction To be honest, because it would have made more sense in some respects.
@thecowboy96982 жыл бұрын
@vrtxte I'm not so sure, because look at the types of men that Milton and Ross were. They were shown to have been as bad as the men they hunted, really. Either they became that way over time, or they always were that way deep down inside, which was the whole point of the second game, stripping back the layers of the characters, and revealing who they they truly were inside. I would say that Ross was the worst of the two men, because Milton actually tried to give the other gang members a chance to leave, only wanting to take Dutch into custody, yet Ross on the other hand was so hell-bent on getting rid of John, that would've gladly have taken out Abigail and Jack as well, if it meant him accomplishing his goal.
@williamsmith67062 жыл бұрын
@vrtxte the pinkertons were very brutal and responsible for a few massacres themselves.
@BillMan50002 жыл бұрын
Probably because they wanted him to be a gang leader in the epilogue, and didn’t think it would be realistic for John to be able to kill a government agent and get away with it for the next four years, without it even being mentioned in Red Dead One.
@AJ_Deadshow2 жыл бұрын
It tells a tale of how the spirit can be corrupted, the fact that he wasn't an agent from the start.
@thecowboy96982 жыл бұрын
@@AJ_Deadshow - Micah was always corrupt. I don't think there was ever a point in the game where he ever sincerely said or did anything kind for somebody else. Everyone else around the camp, no they weren't good men, but they weren't completely heartless, either. But Micah was the very epitome of maliciousness.
Correction: Me: Greet everyone except Micah and antagonize Strauss
@OrionTheTerrible5 жыл бұрын
2019: OK, Boomer 2020: OK, Cowpoke
@buildawall58034 жыл бұрын
You
@OrionTheTerrible4 жыл бұрын
@@buildawall5803 OK, Cowpoke
@buildawall58034 жыл бұрын
@@OrionTheTerrible you rat u rat - amma survivor black lung a survivor
@OrionTheTerrible4 жыл бұрын
@@buildawall5803 OK, Cowpoke
@buildawall58034 жыл бұрын
@@OrionTheTerrible ok WII BOI
@quinnalaskasmogg28695 жыл бұрын
I had never clicked on a video so fast, my entire heart is yelling YES HE IS THE LIL RATA
@giggijordan94805 жыл бұрын
New rapper name LIL RATA
@Ratiroth5 жыл бұрын
I'll be taking that name for my future rap career. Thank you cowpoke
@ye71705 жыл бұрын
Why does this sound like something Gustavo Fring would say?
@Trevsland5 жыл бұрын
ye I was thinking that too.. when he looks at Hector in wheelchair and he says “a crippled little ratta”
@maximumaction11255 жыл бұрын
DUTCH HE'S A RAT he's a rat
@brandonwhite49922 жыл бұрын
I actually feel like Micah was a huge factor in chapter 3 right at the end. The fact that Micah all of a sudden was insisting on peace with the Odriscols which led to Arthur almost being killed and the whole gang being ambushed by the Pinkertons. Way too much of a coincidence on that one. Then right after Sean gets killed, Jack gets taken, and the Pinkertons show up at camp. I think Micah at the very least was cooperating then.
@BKAngmar Жыл бұрын
Nah, because why would Micah walk right into town where he knows they're gonna be ambushed, and why would Leigh Gray not reveal it when Micah and Arthur confronted him?
@CopiousDoinksLLC3 жыл бұрын
I love that Amos straight-up tells Micah that he's going to come kill him if he finds out that he's within 50 miles. I dunno what Micah did, but it must have been bad lol
@punkhyena8752 жыл бұрын
Like I think Amos is Micahs younger brother and probably didn't have the same fucked up psychology as Micah and there father but was still brought along to be an outlaw and a gunslinger.
@AFanOfCinema2 жыл бұрын
Micah probably creeped on Amos' daughters
@marcellomercuri56192 жыл бұрын
@@AFanOfCinema I don't think they were born yet, but I'm sure Micah did every sin under the sun (except for usury)
@ajmerthethy67242 жыл бұрын
He’s a murderous sociopath with low impulse control and a probably above average IQ. Any reasonable person would want to stay away from him.
@unfortunately_fortunate20002 жыл бұрын
@@marcellomercuri5619 underrated comment
@idontno20854 жыл бұрын
Rockstar honestly done too much of a good job with Micha, have honestly never hated a character more in game or film. Ending of RDR2 for micha wasn’t enough for me at all. I need an alternate timeline where Arthur fights him healthy and wipes the floor with him
@mullaoslo4 жыл бұрын
Tenpenny from San Andreas is is only equal
@privateerbouncher96224 жыл бұрын
Or you kill Micah before Arthur dies.
@majik51944 жыл бұрын
Honestly I hated Dimitri from GTA 4 more. He was even more slimy than Micah. Ig Rockstar is just good at making villains tbh
@abd-qadirgilani88713 жыл бұрын
Seriously. I can't complete the game because of him. He'll rot in Strawberry jail forever - I'll never ever free him. No other villain in any other game affected my ability to play said game except for Micah.
@idontno20852 жыл бұрын
Here I am all these years later from this comment and that bastard still remains my most hated character. As above said he’s that hated I don’t want to complete the game.
@davidcameron53085 жыл бұрын
If anything, I feel like Micah was giving anonymous tips to the Pinkertons in order to undermine the gang and eventually cash in the bounty on Dutch. However, when Milton nabbed him after Guarma, Micah had to step it up because now his neck was on the line too.
@mst48134 жыл бұрын
This could be true actually
@connor44354 жыл бұрын
That’s good but I think he put himself in harms way too much for it to be anonymous, for example in the Saint Denis robbery if it was anonymous he’d have found a way to not be in the bank so he wouldn’t get shot
@Tony_J_Nolan Жыл бұрын
The fact Micah suggested such a horrible location like dewberry creek is pretty suspicious on its on
@OFAH555 жыл бұрын
Fizhy if you go to his camp after he leaves it (the camp when he was away from the gang), you can find a bounty poster for Dutch.
@lewisofthehoood5 жыл бұрын
Yes I think he might already know that
@OFAH555 жыл бұрын
@@lewisofthehoood Even if he does I still think it's worth the comment on the chance he doesn't.
@mau5pilot8545 жыл бұрын
I never knew that, cheers
@slimretro26595 жыл бұрын
How much is the bounty?
@OFAH555 жыл бұрын
@@slimretro2659 Dutch has a bounty of $1000 (most bountys only go upto $100).
@crazymangoz95835 жыл бұрын
I wish that in Arthur and Micah’s final fight that Arthur would have coughed on him. Instead of Dutch/John killing him with a few shots, he would have died an inescapable, slow, and painful death. That’s what Micah deserves.
@alexandergriffith18255 жыл бұрын
"...Some men, just want to watch the world burn."
@randall60645 жыл бұрын
The dark knight reference huh
@arlostein10005 жыл бұрын
So deep you're fuckin Palaeolithic
@jackrobinson38334 жыл бұрын
Alexander Griffith ok Alfred
@hsatin204 жыл бұрын
Seriously. Some people dont have a motive other than just loving to piss in everyone else's sand box.
@alexandergriffith18254 жыл бұрын
@@arlostein1000 ok.
@rednefarious69682 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder, was Micah at one point an O'driscoll? Shot the cell mate because he knew him, old running partner as well, maybe saw Dutch and knew him from the old days and gambled that since he never went against him under Colm that Dutch wouldn't recognize him as an O'driscoll, figured he'd back whoever was stronger, double cross them, then lead whichever gang he could pull together and take advantage of the power vacuum in the region. The louder, more brutal way of running meant to build his reputation, and his place in Dutch's gang may have been for colm in the first place, changing allegiances when he realized Colm was going to hang and he was always so quick to drop his mask to yell at you in front of the law, but less around them. After Arthur gets kidnapped with Micah being the only one who could have tipped them off, he takes you out to rob an O'driscoll carriage as if to say "hey I know what you're thinking if you aren't stupid, let me smooth that over." and then, it's an ambush. He played every side, and he damn near won.
@UpwardNinja Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t an O’driscoll but he was a survivor
@sharquimetal5 жыл бұрын
There's a part when he says "There's a bigger picture here, Morgan" he was getting them screwed from the beginning, all he wanted was money and never cared for the gang. Once he got the money, hed probably disapear.
@sharquimetal5 жыл бұрын
Also, he wasn't always so shitty to Arthur, he tried to side with him at the beginning but then realized that "he ain't as dumb as he looks".
@thedarkderp25205 жыл бұрын
@DeadlyNeedle ! Milton confesses to Arthur that after guarma Micah had been feeding information to him and the pinkerton's about the gang so yeah he's a rat
@thedarkderp25205 жыл бұрын
@DeadlyNeedle ! why would Million lie when Arthur was on death's door and a gun pointed at him use your brain man
@thedarkderp25205 жыл бұрын
@DeadlyNeedle ! your rants are adorable
@thedarkderp25205 жыл бұрын
@DeadlyNeedle ! says the guy who still hasn't proven that Micah isn't a rat your adorable rant didn't provide any additional information on why Milton would lie to a dying Arthur plus the gang was already done at that point both Milton and Arthur knew it so why not lay out all the cards on the table it was a lose -lose situation for Arthur face it you just want your Micah fanfiction to be canon
@ddhouston33804 жыл бұрын
1:38 I think thats definitely one of the most underrated scenes of the game, the peak of how western Rdr2 could get in one scene.
@subhammishra72284 жыл бұрын
that was one of my favorite scenes from the game
@Quisse985 жыл бұрын
He was making Dutch bounty higher so when he was able to bring Dutch in he’s getting his money’s worth
@acompletelynormalhuman63923 жыл бұрын
7:27 Molly was the one who told about the bank robbery she specifically admits as much though redacting that statement there's still plenty of evidence for this Theory
@ReaIly2 жыл бұрын
You know she didn’t right? Milton said she didn’t say a word
@Taveren4 жыл бұрын
I have the sneaking suspicion that he was just selling the information to the highest bidder, first to the o'driscolls, then to Leviticus Cornwall and then to the Pinkertons
@kingcobra28584 жыл бұрын
Micah enjoys it and its what he only knows. I find the dishonorable run endings meta when he said; "You're not better than me!". He's basically calling out the player for being as bad as him.
@micahbell5654 жыл бұрын
IM A SURVIVOR
@kingcobra28584 жыл бұрын
@@micahbell565 i know, i know. I get u. Hahaha
@PLANDerLinde993 жыл бұрын
@@micahbell565 No you're a backstabber
@MrSoup-zs4rd3 жыл бұрын
I think its also supposed to show that beneath all the sneers and shit-talk, Micah Bell was deeply insecure.
@kingcobra28583 жыл бұрын
@@MrSoup-zs4rd yeah, i mean why else would he do that to his crew
@setofaro5 жыл бұрын
Why did Micah kill Cain? (The dog) that shows he’s just a true monster
@blessedxxiii55835 жыл бұрын
Micah don't care about nobody but himself
@micahbellonline94625 жыл бұрын
Micah seems scared as hell of that dog the first time he sees it, the dog jump scares him. I guess he had a very bad experience with dogs, that's trauma. Micah is broken on so many levels, there's nothing left to save in him.
@kristijan125 жыл бұрын
Wait, when does he kill the dog??
@setofaro5 жыл бұрын
Kristijan Ilic When Jack is calling for Cain in Annesburg Micah tells him that he’s not coming back evilly suggesting he’s killed him
@sondjuchiha9755 жыл бұрын
Kristijan Ilic chap 6
@tomasking9823 жыл бұрын
I feel like there is also some sort of in-game reasoning for Sean and Lenny's deaths. In Chapter 1, it is established that Sean is not a competent gunfighter when he is attempting to shoot lined up bottles (failing) and Arthur has to give him some advice on how to effectively shoot one of them. Sean also constantly mentions how Arthur is like a "big brother" to him and how he loves him, illustrating to the player that Sean obviously has a great admiration of Arthur. The fact that Micah would recruit him for the business in Rhodes, especially when there are plenty of other competent gunslingers back at camp to recruit instead, shows that he was potentially easily disposing of a gang member loyal to Arthur. This could have also been the case with the bank robbery in Saint Denis with Lenny (this part is based more on speculation, but is still valid). Lenny, though admittedly better than Sean at gunfighting, is quite young and inexperienced. Seeing as this robbery happened after Dutch's head injury (one of the supposed causes for his personality shift), and his ties with Hosea were weakening, it's pretty safe to say that Micah could have had at least a small influence on the plans for the heist and could have intentionally overexaggerated Lenny's skill to Dutch (who does not spend that much time with Lenny at all), also taking into account the fact that Lenny REALLY admires Arthur, who is always watching his back (even in the event of his death). I think the explanation with Sean is much more plausible than the one with Lenny, but both are pretty cool theories :D
@uncomentarista3103 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the head injury was that bad, the main thing injured there was Dutch's pride and ego
@antonioskoda95165 жыл бұрын
I'd say so, the Pinkertons showed up surprisingly fast in Saint Denis, and Micah was the one that was constantly in Dutch's ear back in Blackwater, which ultimately lead to the whole downfall of the gang. I believe that Micah was a rat since the beginning. Maybe Milton didn't want to admit that they were that useless and unable to capture the gang, so he said that they picked him up after Guarma.
@retroclowdy52125 жыл бұрын
How did cornwall know it was them who robbed the train
@gustarddonut14525 жыл бұрын
He also wore a white suit while the gang wore dark colored suits Signaling the pinkertons that he was not a target
@noa_zeus5 жыл бұрын
alo ti,sta siris lazi HAHAH salin se
@antonioskoda95165 жыл бұрын
@@noa_zeus brate❤😂
@noa_zeus5 жыл бұрын
@@antonioskoda9516 haha
@rolandosanchez20193 жыл бұрын
The "I am a survivor, black lung, a survivor, thats all there is, living and dying" is him justifying his betrayal
@ayushdogra78503 жыл бұрын
Dutch always had a mask on for the first chapters of the game. The quote in the game that "people dont change over time, they just slowly become who they really are." perfectly shows how artificial Dutch's talks are, when confronted with cold hard reality, dutch forgoes everything and switches to sole survival. Beautiful character presentation and development btw ❤
@micahbell10092 жыл бұрын
But I still manipulated that basterd to another demension.
@noegodinez1777 Жыл бұрын
I was kinda surprised how "crazy" Dutch sounded during the first few missions in chapter 2. He would be sitting and reading and then suddenly sound paranoid about Arthur.
@mac-ec8do Жыл бұрын
In horseshoe overlook there's actually a spot where you can pick up Dutch's notes for his speeches. Knew from the start he was gonna be a bad leader.
@mangler33214 жыл бұрын
Love this guy’s content, definitely not going back to MrBossFTW again
@wimedogusmc514 жыл бұрын
MrbossFTW is just click bait. Don’t like that guy!
@Robin-dl5jk4 жыл бұрын
Fuck MrBossFTW. Most annoying youtube account ever. What a cockroach
@thewaffle1874 жыл бұрын
@@Robin-dl5jk he is a rat, you know it and i know it
@Arclight39834 жыл бұрын
@Wassup Boi Mrtrashftl?
@legotheepic36114 жыл бұрын
@@Arclight3983you are both incorrect his name is actually MrVirginityFTW
@motormouth24724 жыл бұрын
As the bad guy, Micah is actually one of my favorite characters from RDR2. I hate how much of a douchebag he was, but I'd be lying if I said his character was not done amazingly.
@a-holeproductions49833 жыл бұрын
If you hate the villain, he’s good at what he’s doing
@micahbell10092 жыл бұрын
Indeed nice to have some respect for once.
@unfortunately_fortunate20002 жыл бұрын
@@a-holeproductions4983 if you love to hate the villain*
@BurningMarsh2 жыл бұрын
I only genuinely hate him due to his racism
@micahbell10092 жыл бұрын
@@BurningMarsh They don't deserve rights.
@CalvinKool-Aid3 жыл бұрын
he could have been moleing all along, milton says hed been a "good boy'' since guarma. he could have been giving them breadcrumbs until he had dutch's trust and then went full rat
@latewizard3015 жыл бұрын
"with them for 5 months" "in 1891 Micah met Dutch" i don't think it is 5 months between 1891 and 1899 :D
@conor19405 жыл бұрын
When he met him, doesn't necessarily mean he joined the gang at that time
@frederickmccandless94625 жыл бұрын
@@conor1940 he said he joined right after
@latewizard3015 жыл бұрын
@@conor1940 watch the video again... at about 3:00 in the video
@sci_pain34095 жыл бұрын
Frederick Mccandless he joined right after and micah showed dutch his time machine he stole from someone
@latewizard3015 жыл бұрын
@Game PUNISHER Micah was just more sly than Dutch somehow, and managed to brainwash him. He's not a rat, he's a rat turd!
@jarnoveldman92564 жыл бұрын
I absolutely despise him but they way he says: "Black Lung, you're back, Hooray!" Made me laugh
@micahbell10092 жыл бұрын
"Blacklung, your back, Hooray!"
@unfortunately_fortunate20002 жыл бұрын
hes a very well written character though, pure douche but a well written douche.
@Mr_cookies-wb6xl4 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest we know Micah’s honor bar😂
@Victorian_specter3 жыл бұрын
high af, which make sense, cause he helped pinkertons, which were actually the good guys if you look at it that way...
@NationalismDjazair3 жыл бұрын
@@Victorian_specter No, its really low. He killed a sheriff who took his guns, and killed his wife, he killed the dog cain of the camp, and it said he loved killing people unnecessarily with his father. His bar is low, but he is in the good team
@quanahriddle30653 жыл бұрын
@@NationalismDjazair he killed Cain? Alright, that's too far. Ratting out a group of outlaws with good intentions is one thing, but a random dog?
@annedin8963 жыл бұрын
Really low. He had the rare low honour horse
@metaldragon2973 жыл бұрын
what honour bar? pretty sure his is non existant 😂
@ded2thaworld9635 жыл бұрын
I had always assumed he was a mole my first play through. He was obviously a shithead all game, so when i found out he was a rat i just figured he was from the start since Pinkertons always knew wtf we were.
@fabiosaade77315 жыл бұрын
In one one of the missions i forgot wich one hosea was talking to arthur he said that they had a lead in blackwater but micah kept talking about the ferry job so he was a rat since the beginning working with the pinkertons to capture dutch
@fabiosaade77315 жыл бұрын
@DeadlyNeedle ! pinkertons probably promissed him a lot plus there was a big bounty on everyones head
@fabiosaade77315 жыл бұрын
@DeadlyNeedle ! idk im just saying that because in the end before abigail kills milton he says tha micah told him everything and not molly
@ded2thaworld9635 жыл бұрын
DeadlyNeedle ! Feds probably offered him immunity for all the shit he does, usually how rats work.
@johnnykorynsel82065 жыл бұрын
DeadlyNeedle ! Just because you have to kill some of the guys you work for doesn’t mean your not with them. It happens all the time with undercover ops. Most likely during the st denis bank robbery Micah saw how bad shit was getting and saw no way out then after guarma the pinkertons gave him a deal. Get Dutch in there custody and work for us will give you immunity and safety. And seeing as Micah is all about himself of course he would take it. He was never in it for the other gang members. You can hear it in the way he talks that he’s a liar
@zekez9525 жыл бұрын
These rdr2 montages youve been doing at the start of videos lately are really cool. Keep up the good Ethan. I really enjoy it