The Lemoyne Raiders - Red Dead Redemption 2

[@willowwyatt8652]

I like the idea that the "leader" was actually just annoying to the rest of the gang. So they gave him a fort outside of their territory just to get him away from them.

[@annetteadcock1848]

Makes sense as I'm sure you wouldn't leave a good leader in some shity run down fort in the middle of nowhere

[@scoutman66]

You can find a civil war hardee hat in the basement of the fort and a letter from a general who was presumably killed by Confederate soldiers who launched a successful attack on the fort

[@CR7GOATofFootball]

@@scoutman66 oh wow

[@dogslobbergardens6606]

@@scoutman66 There's also a D-guard bowie knife down there. That style of knife really was fairly popular in those days.

[@Mercury29477]

Honestly it’s not a bad idea as the fort is abandoned so not much people will snoop arround and it’s in a different state so they can evade the law in lemoyne as they don’t have jurisdiction over the area and it is a good hide away also it only has one enterance so they can easily take out any bounty hunters after them especially since they have a machine gun there

[@cydude5856]

I love how each gang has some sort of flaw that the Van Der Linde gang has but exaggerated. The Lemoyne Raiders fight for a cause that just doesn't work in the modern world, the Skinner Brothers are as Charles puts it, "Angry men on a rampage," the O'driscolls are basically the way Micah turns the gang, and the Del Lobos have an odd sense of comradery against a man that embodies injustice to them. The Murfree Brood are also a demented group that sticks together because of familial bonds. And if we take Angelo Bronte as well, he misleads his lackeys by giving them what they need, like how Dutch "saved" many of the members of the gang.

[@angelmunoz34]

Thats a damn good point 🤔

[@kadecase7470]

I feel that most criminal gangs in general harbor these traits.

[@normaaliihminen722]

Skinner brothers in reality are natives but due to possible* PR nightmare they changed it to European descends. Edited*

[@95zzz]

@@normaaliihminen722 that seems logical, do you have any source to that

[@normaaliihminen722]

@@95zzz Well there is Catherine German case in it Catherine's parents and male family members were killed and she and her sisters was captured and held as sex slave and there is wikipedia pages which lists known massacres.

[@dannytheman1313]

Despite being fictional there is a hint of reality, there was a period of time where some former confederates tried to keep the war going. Not just for a couple weeks after the war but for a couple years. In time they eventually dissolved a few of them turning into the Klan while some just becoming outlaws. I liked how they maintain that in the game.

[@afroartist1086]

That's basically what the KKK originally was, a band of ex Confederate soldiers still fighting on.

[@scoutman66]

@@afroartist1086 Funny since you can encounter both Lemoyne Raiders and the KKK in the overworld (although the Raiders seem to be a lot smarter than the KKK.) And of course Joe Butler, the homeless vet outside of the Rhodes general store

[@421less1]

Well yeah, they are taking the piss out of the south, the myth of southern gentelmen, the myth of northern aggression ect. They're showing you, these are the types of people who actually existed in that system in that time. Just 30 years after, soo all the polish has worn off the rot.

[@Kaiserboo1871]

@@421less1 Honestly though, historically speaking the KKK shouldn’t even exist at the time of the game. The first KKK was founded by Nathan Bedford Forest as a fraternity for former confederate soldiers (kinda like how Washington help found the Society of Cincinnati for Revolutionary War vets). However the group quickly turned into what was essentially a terrorist organization and Forest left as a result and ultimately denounced the group he had helped found. The first KKK disbanded in the 1860s after the US passed the Anti-Klan legislation. It wasn’t until the 1920s that the second KKK was founded at Stone Mountain, Georgia following the lynching of Jewish American Liam Frank who was accused of raping and killing one of his young white female workers. The game takes place in 1899. So for all intense and purposes the KKK shouldn’t even exist as an entity at this point.

[@421less1]

@@Kaiserboo1871 yeah theyre in there because theres never a bad time to ruthlessly make fun of white supremacist

[@uhobme2028]

_"I didn't put one of my own behind bars, I put YOU behind bars and it feels good thanks"_ God I love Clark's delivery of that line

[@kierancaldwell3442]

Same here I was laughing for a solid couple minutes

[@argent-wolfman90]

The good old "Lemon" Raiders as I call them

[@greedgod5827]

I feel like that was rockstars inspiration for the colors they fly

[@raditzhoneyham]

@@greedgod5827 it's a civil war cavalry bandana/neckerchief that's why it's yellow. Same reason the old man in lemoyne has red that's for artillery

[@dfreeman16s]

They were the funnest to fight

[@chimaera2611]

Is it cause they're still sour about losing?

[@seanhuds7351]

@@chimaera2611 Twinned with the SaurKrauts, a gang comprised of the decedents of Hessian mercenaries trapped in America following the defeat of the British during the war of independence150 years before

[@NotSlurry]

Yes, love these gang documentaries. Can't wait to hear the civil war accounts.

[@jackcarrol5423]

Me too bro

[@dylanmonstrum1538]

"racism bad" We wont ever get an objective video.

[@jewishspacelaseroperator5410]

@@dylanmonstrum1538 what?

[@optymalna8699]

@@dylanmonstrum1538 whats up with the quote 🧐

[@dylanjulve5374]

​@@dylanmonstrum1538 are you implying racism good in this statement or are you making the claim of most if not all AAA studios being to dumb or scared to get to any actual analysis of slave labor based societies besides the universal "racism bad"?

[@musicaleuphoria8699]

Fun fact: Eluding to the weapons deals in Cuba and South America, RDO has one of the Lemoyne Raiders hideouts at Clemens Cove where they seemed to have firearms packed on a boat.

[@kalikartoonz7656]

Kind of makes sense with them being former slavers and all

[@SunBunz]

7:47 After he was done with that impressive speech, I tossed a stick of dynamite directly in the middle of them, they screamed in terror and all blew up in all directions, killing them instantly, and Arthur said something like, “Ain’t not tales to tell this time.” I laughed so hard but almost felt bad. That guy describing blowing up in the past. 😂

[@YokaiX]

He must've had PTSD flashbacks right before he died lol

[@t3hSpAdEs]

I do the same thing at the slave shacks in Rhodes when they won’t share the chicken

[@FellMaria]

Thats exactly what i would have done. Let history repeat itself.

[@judgeddawnakaswampjaged8334]

I saved the cop!

[@thegamingcook785]

Arthur's dark humour always kills me🤣

[@Herandro_just_Herandro]

That was an excellent job, sir. I can't get enough these RDR2 gangs "documentary" videos. Keep up the good work.

[@wi-fihotpotzz8242]

bro i aint even watching series anymore im stuck down this rabbit hole of rdr videos

[@prodwonderlandd]

Pls never stop the red dead content you're one of the few actually good channels that still make content on it. Also video was amazing

[@pranavstormer17]

Everything has to come to an end though eventually

[@prodwonderlandd]

@@pranavstormer17 One day yes, but he still has a lot of stuff to cover

[@prodwonderlandd]

@@pranavstormer17 also he still really enjoys it, so i dont think its gonna end yet

[@pranavstormer17]

Prod. Wonderland I mean yeah I know he’s enjoying it but even rdr2 has it’s limits with how much you can find new in it.

[@prodwonderlandd]

@@pranavstormer17 there is a limit to what you can find in game but not the ideas you can think about and discuss

[@limitify331]

The Lemoyne Raiders keep ambushing me every single 5 minutes im in Lemoyne especially that one bridge where the train passes, its impossible to hang around lemoyne without a army of raiders just blasting you with their repeaters, there one of the reasons why i do not like being in Lemoyne lol

[@Fizhy]

They like to do that, they're kinda silly fellas

[@limitify331]

@@Fizhy there worst than the O”Driscolls, and their clothes looked like it had not been washed ever since the civil war started.

[@FlymanMS]

@@Fizhy susy bakas

[@Stairhatermari]

Chapter 3/4 be like

[@zackkilgore528]

@@limitify331 That’s kinda the point, they don’t want you in Lemoyne

[@adampleasants2078]

One thing I really like about the Lemoyne raiders that you brushed on was how they parallel the Van der Linde gang in some ways. In the raiders' case, at least to me, they reflect something like Dutch's high-falutin rhetoric about American freedom and opportunity and how that view rubs off on the gang. There's the obvious difference that the raiders are bushwhackers -- ex-Confederate outlaws still fighting the Civil War -- and it is interesting to note that Dutch would personally dislike the comparison since "daddy died on a Pennsylvania field" fighting Southerners, implicitly Gettysburg, but there's still that talk about how "something's only lost if you let it be" and misguided notions of self-sovereignty. It dovetails nicely with how you see Dutch still trying to hold on to that outlaw life even when they betray the spirit of that in the prologue by heading east "towards all that civilization". Also, tangentially, there's this interesting generational gap you're seeing with the raiders. There's the original raiders, the ones from the 3rd Lemoyne and the ones that would have been around when that newspaper mentions how they used to be seen as sort of heroes, and the younger men. That scene where a younger raider shoots the hostage police officer for "disrespecting the cause" to the disapproval of two of the older raiders who wanted to ransom him -- it shows how the times are changing with the rebel remnants evolving into essentially a Lost Cause gang, but it also brings to mind how Dutch's gang is partly kept together by there being a vision for the future and a moral justification for what they are doing.

[@messmermusicals1367]

About your second point, I didn t really see it that way. In my opinion, the 2 senior Lemoyne raiders wanted to keep the police officer alive because a ransom can fetch high, and thus provide funding for the gang to survive or gain in power. By being too idealistic, the Junior Lemoyne ruined their chances. It's quite intriguing to me. You'd think their stubborn kind would have been proud to see that their code stuck so perfectly to a young fellow. But it s the opposite. The older members prefer to think long term

[@rinzler1801]

What's wrong with self sovereignty?

[@Princess_Celestia_]

@@rinzler1801 What's wrong with it is that it's not a real thing. Everyone who wants "self-sovereignty" also wants to govern others and not let others be self-sovereign.

[@chesterstevens8870]

​@@Princess_Celestia_ That's funny, coming the imperialist rainbow horse.

[@geedee1264]

And you don't see the hypocrisy of them attempting to tax (what they would call extortion)then ambush and kill people while talking about sovereignty and freedom??

[@gavinsmith7457]

Just did the Lindsay Woffard mission. In chapter 4. Arthur mentions to woffard how he’s staying in shady belle, on the horse ride back to the police station. Woffard then states “your the ones who took the belle?” (Or something to that effect) Then follows with a slew of insults. So by that I would say he’s clearly connected or has good ties with the raiders down south. Figured I’d mention it as the video doesn’t. For any of those who care.

[@sleepingcat637]

Have you seen Gavin!?

[@gavinsmith7457]

@@sleepingcat637 “I’m sorry, I don’t know any……Gavins”

[@LimpAnarchist]

When I tried to get old Lindsey in my first playing, my card crashed. I do not mess with him since that.

[@foodafen7406]

​@@gavinsmith7457"That's........ That's too bad"

[@DANKY-LEAF]

Lindsay wofford was the commander of the Lemoyne Raiders so yes he had a good relationship with them

[@calicocloxko119]

The fact that you can make an hour long video about a gang that only shows up in 2% of 60-hour campaign just shows how massive this game is.

[@exldonkeys6891]

You can spend however many hours as you want studying the lemoyne raider, I don't wanna hear this "2% of a 60 hour campaign" sht.

[@MoGumbo_]

@@exldonkeys6891 Yeah, but the casual player will overlook this. Casual player will make up the majority of the players. People who are interested will go out of their way to learn more.

[@exldonkeys6891]

@@MoGumbo_ Yeah and the creator of the video was clearly one of those people who go out there way.

[@exldonkeys6891]

@@MoGumbo_ People always say this bullsht but the fact he's still limiting it by hours shows he doesn't actually know what he's talking about. He's js copying what everyone else says.

[@MoGumbo_]

@@exldonkeys6891 They didn't seem very intelligent

[@ObeyLuckyyy]

There are some cool encounters when you and John go to clear out shady belle but most people miss these because they kill everyone very quickly

[@DarthDerp-ih2ru]

Yeah I only discovered about it today. The first guy inside the house downstairs gets his gun jammed, then tries to fist fight you, the second guy upstairs, on the left of the stairs, if you enter his room, pulls out a knife and tries to kill you. And the third guy shoots himself, but everyone knows about that one.

[@874dan4]

@@DarthDerp-ih2ru the first guy gun jams and you can let him leave and John has a chance to kill him

[@prska]

@@DarthDerp-ih2ru the first one doesnt fight you tho, arthur tells him to leave and then john kills him

[@left-2-write28]

I always liked to imagine that the first guys revolver didn't jam but just wasn't even loaded or the round in that particular spot had already been fired.

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

Well The last guy I knew was gonna end himself so I blasted his face with a shotgun to get it over with.

[@gladwrapenjoyer1973]

It kinda pisses me off that when the Lemoyne Raiders rob a train, no cops actually come. But when Arthur robs a train, every lawman from Valentine to San Francisco arrive to get a piece of the action.

[@mapleflag6518]

The law enforcement probably doesn’t really care about the Raiders and views them as a nuisance rather than an actual threat.

[@degamegang8262]

​@@mapleflag6518Yes but also some lawman themselves could have still felt bad being on the losing side. Not as bad as to join the raiders but also not as good to stop their deeds of resistance

[@paufernandezboj5517]

​@@degamegang8262 Yeah but It not make sense when It passed 30 or 40 years between the civil war and The year 1899 during the Game so its pretty weird that The law don't fight The Riders ASAP

[@lukethegoldenminecart1297]

​@Brain_Dead_Redemption its the 3rd person cameraman, hes snitching on Arthur.

[@bryantgodin]

More loot

[@glasswhisperer]

An hour long Fizhy video? A great new years indeed.

[@alohakat1148]

Back here again

[@leoncruick4612]

aCtUaLlY, iTs 54 MiNuTeS aNd 32 SeCoNdS lOnG. yOu WeRe 5 MiNuTeS aNd 28 SeCoNdS aWaY.

[@johndoe6260]

One of my favorite camp events in the game is Tilly telling Arthur, that she doesn't feel good so deep in the south, Arthur at first acts like he doesn't know what she means, until she says something along the lines of "come on Arthur, I'm a neg*o" Which then Arthur drops the act and says she doesn't have to worry, cause they take care of her

[@ntfoperative9432]

It's ridiculous that you have to censor that

[@ntfoperative9432]

Not calling you ridiculous, let me clarify

[@Samagachi]

I found it odd that they couldn’t have given her a gun for self defense

[@johndoe6260]

@@ntfoperative9432 eh I don't really care buddy, I don't want to ruin someone's day because of it

[@johndoe6260]

@@Samagachi hmmm, interesting point

[@hunterlabbe6668]

The raiders are just more fun to fight than any of the other gangs

[@zackkilgore528]

@LivingCarbon Heck one of the most famous outlaws Jesse James was himself an ex soldier of the Confederate Army

[@patar3932]

@@zackkilgore528 He never was In the army he was a gorilla with Bloody Bill Anderson after Quantrill left and was killed shit he was to young till Bloody Bill took over then he fought cole younger was In the Confederate Army not jessie

[@rustyrussell2537]

@@patar3932 I think Jessie's brother Frank was in the army or at least he was at the battle of Wilson's Creek.

[@ashmyblunt]

@@zackkilgore528 yeah Jesse James was in a group called Quantrills Raiders after the war, which was a confederate sympathizers group that targeted former Union supporters and anyone else who got in their way in the South. I’m fairly certain that the Lemoyne Raiders is heavily inspired by them.

[@zackkilgore528]

@@ashmyblunt maybe, that’ll certainly make sense

[@renaigh]

that "Old-Timer" retelling his story would've been no more than a Boy during the time.

[@goten339]

Assuming the civil war ended in 1865 in the world of RDR, then it would have ended 35 years previous to him telling his story. He looks like he could be anywhere from 40-60? So maybe he was in his early or mid 20s, if he is around 60, which is pretty young for someone apparently fist fighting a bunch of other soldiers. Whatever the math says though, it sounds like an exaggerated story, a young solider blown into the sky and winning a fist fight against a bunch of soldiers in the middle of a battlefield...

[@tigerburn81]

Yeah, it seems that Rockstar definitely wanted a Civil War/Lost Cause connection in the game but way too much time had passed for the setting.

[@spaceflawlessness]

If he was 20 in 1865 that meand that he is 54 while telling the story. Perfectly reasonable.

[@DominionSorcerer]

@@tigerburn81 The last confirmed "soldier" of the American Civil War died in 1956, he lived to the age of 106 - he served as a drummer boy and his regiment never saw combat. The last confirmed veteran of the Civil War who saw combat died in 1953, James Hard lied about his age to join the Union Army in 1861 and fought through the First Battle of Bull Run, the Battle of Antietam, Chancellorsville and Fredericksburg. He lived to the age of 109. ' A veteran recounting his story in 1899, not even 40 years after the war, is definitely not a case of "too much time had passed" - it helped set the foundation of the Lemoyne Raiders, making them that much more insane for clinging to the cause of a state and the institution of slavery that ended decades ago.

[@ovni2295]

I mean, Confederate Civil War vets were still around doing things as late as the 1920s, because some of them WERE just boys in the 1860s. Boys as young as 14 fought in the Civil War.

[@ianatkinson1883]

Bill "These damn flies! I swear they got it in for me." Dutch "You could try washing once in a while."

[@theaccursedj.e.2723]

The gang's insults towards each other are comedy gold.

[@DRE4D1]

I absolutely love these videos man. Delving deeper into Rdr2’s world makes the game even more immersive.

[@JammyGit]

I can remember when I captured Lindsey Wofford, I tied him up and threw him on my horse, but as soon as I left the fort I did get his cronies try to save him, they also tried saving him the last time I played it through so I think it's random whether or not they try rescuing Wofford

[@markmagician2471]

Wofford is a bounty every bounty has cronies that try to save your target

[@JammyGit]

@@markmagician2471 Not every bounty will. Some of the bounties that are gang members usually do have rescue attempts, but sometimes they don't, plus not all the bounties are for gang members

[@Mercury29477]

I never encountered them but I do know that you can encounter rival bounty hunters when doing it but when I did it last time I rode so fast that the bounty hunters didn’t catch up to me and I saw them following me

[@JammyGit]

@@Mercury29477 I've not had that happen at all. I think it just goes to show how impressive the game is because it seems there are multiple ways even the simplest of missions can play out 👍

[@ChadOfAllChads]

It's speed. My brendel arabian made it basically impossible to be pursued.

[@andyn46]

RDR2 has some of the best voice acting performances ever given, unfortunately Camille sounds like they pulled him out of an early PS2 game

[@evangelicae_rationis]

Also the spanish in Guarma which isn't even near to Cuban accent because the voice actors are obviously Mexicans and they have some weird generic dialogues Same for most of the Del Lobo guys, specially the one you capture with Sadie in the Epilogue

[@scoutman66]

And Robbie Laidlaw, the supposed Scotsman who just sounds like he's doing his best Demoman impression

[@nousername2942]

Always thought it was weird how there was such a big downgrade in the quality of the Spanish dialogue in this game vs the first one. But also the Cantonese and Creole heard in Saint Denis are super legit? It's weird

[@andyn46]

@@nousername2942 I played through the first again recently and honestly other than Reyes I didn’t think any of the deliveries were awful. I live in a city with a lot of Mexican immigrants, the VA sounds like they cast people who speak English as a second language which is perfect. Not sure where they went wrong in the sequel. As someone already stated the Del Lobos are laughably bad as well. Maybe they didn’t care as much because there’s far fewer Latino characters in the game?

[@izevrente]

I'm pretty sure it's because it's a character who's pretending to be french LOL. He doesn't sound french at all, and you can hear the leaking of his original accent through his lines. I'd say his voice actor actually did a great job, I can only imagine it's difficult to voice a voice that's pretending to be... a different voice LOL

[@fadedflame2537]

The whole commander thing I think is a reference to the fact that the lemoyne raiders operate in multiple states. I think he is the leader of this unit, and probably one of the many commanders that they have

[@gabbykabins4333]

As a native Kansan, who had to learn all about "Bleeding Kansas" in middle school history class, being able to hear about the Lawrence, KS and the jayhawkers was literally sooooooo awesome.

[@spartan11payne]

Kansas Gang. John Brown did nothing wrong.

[@jerry-hy9ok]

Fellow Kansan here. As a resident of the state of Kansas, I am obligated to say that hearing of our state in media was the most exciting thing of my day among the sunflower farming.

[@mapleflag6518]

@@spartan11payne Based

[@jeff_underscore9244]

Man Lawrence looked real swell in 63

[@t3hSpAdEs]

@@spartan11payneevery time I see a dumb white woman get murdered by a pack of blacks I say “Thanks John Brown”

[@AyubuKK]

Just like how Charles described the Skinner Brothers, “They’re just angry men, on a rampage”.

[@shayzcactus]

I accidentally killed both bounties trying to capture them and while taking Lindsey Wofford’s body to Saint Denis, I did have a couple raiders try to stop me. Weird that it doesn’t happen if he’s taken alive.

[@amqru]

Bounty hunters u mean

[@shayzcactus]

@@amqru were they bounty hunters? I thought they were raiders because they yelled about not letting me take Wofford’s body.

[@amqru]

@@shayzcactus yep, bounty dudes who wanted the money 4 the own.

[@shomonohomo691]

It happens if he’s alive as well. I played through it yesterday, as long as you are following the yellow line on the compass when bringing him to Saint Dennis, some two or three bounty hunters or raiders will always appear. Let me double check if they were bounty hunters or raiders.

[@Mercury29477]

@@amqru lol I remember last time I did the bounty I never even got stopped by them since I rode so fast but I did see them following me and I did pop a horse stimulant on the ride

[@senorsiro3748]

The most impressive part is that Rockstar actually got the specifically Cajun French accent so right

[@luciusprepus]

Hell no y sound like a guy from france

[@Chicken_Wing91]

@@luciusprepus because that area was owned by the french before it became part of the union. Hell there are people up north in America and their accents sound damn near British

[@ThundaCracka]

@@Chicken_Wing91 Sounds nothing like anyone from south Louisiana the Cajun accent is usually quick these guys sound like a bunch of guys.

[@cryptic9511]

I have a massive feud with them, they've killed too many of my horses

[@mapleflag6518]

Make sure to blast Union Dixie when hunting them down.

[@SebastianBaos]

Don't tell me it was at the western bridge of Saint Denis...

[@SchruteFarms]

The ambush just outside of Rhodes where the explosion goes off and they attack legit caught me off guard. Also scared me because it was loud 😂

[@joshuafurlong5270]

5:51 I remember encountering this on my second play thru and listening to the dialogue thru and thru. Was quite fascinating honestly, and it amazes me how down to every last npc the voice acting in this game is just top notch. Even though this dude was some crazy scumbag I really felt like i was sitting there being told a war story... Until the end anyway I think he was just gassin himself up lmfao

[@lobaandrade7172]

A Red Dead game set during the Civil War would be amazing

[@The_Don_]

No

[@mapleflag6518]

@@The_Don_ Yes

[@JediHobbit89]

That would be awesome. I could see a mission paying tribute to The Good the Bad and the Ugly in it.

[@kiryuchansboyfriend]

In terms of story it would be an absolute banger though I’m not sure it’d be as fun gameplay wise as they only had single shot rifles, the carbine and Henry repeaters, and a handful of revolvers back then

[@kobetakemura5179]

@@kiryuchansboyfriend kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYCal35tpLyJisk

[@trombz2007]

21:15 "wait who TF is this?!" I am dead 😭😂😂💀

[@justinmoore6543]

When I first encountered the Raiders in the Rhodes bar I wasn't expecting it, and Arthur ended up throwing one of them out of the window behind them 😁

[@90sumbeats7]

Go back to the bar they’ll talk to you about it I believe there’s more to that

[@Xehanort10]

47:26 The Lemoyne Raiders are an American Civil War version of the Japanese soldiers who thought World War II was still going on years after it ended.

[@ChadOfAllChads]

The Japanese soldiers actually thought the war was still going on though. Soon as they found out it was over they went home but only after a military officer ordered them to do so.

[@chasecash738]

they have a clingman in the game, and i think that is even more close to this comparison

[@ShotoTodoroki-go6dp]

It’s always a good day when Fizhy makes a Red Dead video.

[@Wandering_Nowhere]

These documentary style videos are great. Puts into perspective how much work the studio put into setting up the world and its history.

[@Dougarawrus]

These videos are sick. Helped me start playing RDR2 again!

[@secondarytrollaccount666]

I like how lemoyne was inspired by Louisiana, its swamps, farmland, even saint denis is RDR2 new Orleans.

[@G5_Edits]

This game is one of the few games that even after all these years you find/discover something new

[@icelern2123]

We're blessed tonight with this long one lads

[@liamriddell8461]

I have been rewatching the gang documentaries all week, this is gonna be good!

[@turboturtlehead]

Very in depth and non rushed video on this gang. Very well done.

[@mestillme1855]

0:40 - I’m from Louisiana (where Lemoyne is based off of) and these words are true in game, and in reality.

[@lindaturoski7843]

Boohoo

[@DANKY-LEAF]

Buddy this is not reality for you, we know you want free compensation for your ancestors but its not happening

[@C_H03219]

This was so good! I can’t wait for you to do a video about the O’Driscolls!

[@Ez_editz32]

He did

[@theenclave6291]

The amount of detail just in listening to the gangs alone is truly astonishing

[@bdavis24fan]

38:12 I love Arthur's response so much. I'm just picturing him just going back to his bed and hanging that poster up and being like "looks nice" 😂😂😂

[@RforRex]

To me the lemoyne raiders are more annoying then intimadating unlike gang such as the murfree brood and skinner brothers

[@limitify331]

The murfree only ambush you when your in roanoke ridge, but the raiders? They ambush you everywhere in lemoyne so yeah they suck ass

[@greedgod5827]

Nothing is scarier than the night folk tho

[@pavannair6469]

@@limitify331 the murfree also appear near the swamp

[@TDog111]

@@pavannair6469 no

[@evangelicae_rationis]

@@greedgod5827 Have you ever heard about the Skinners?

[@hewned578]

21:10 "Wait who the f- is this??" is perfect delivery

[@samsonakinkunmi2594]

It lives in my head rent free 😂😂😂

[@kneesox3298]

Alright i know this sounds cliche and most people who read this wont believe it (i wouldnt),but i started watching Fizhy 4 years ago when i was 10 as i loved assassins creed and he and i shared similiar viewpoints,but the special thing abt his channel for me is how as my interests changed so did his (to witcher,to red dead and mass effect) so on behalf on the community thank you Ethan!

[@soldier660]

35:01 even for bandits, i love people who have loyalty ^^ !!! and try to help their friends.

[@GhostShipBaychimo]

The name in that letter you found, “William Marcus Anderson” might be a reference to the Real life Figure William “Bloody Bill” Andersen who was a bushwhacker during Bleeding Kansas, riding with a group called “Quantrill’s Raiders” who were the perpetrators of the Lawrence, Kansas Massacre. I love how they add in these small details that get over looked especially if you don’t have much knowledge of the History of Missouri and Kansas or even the Guerrilla warfare that took place between the two states.

[@skimslimmy]

33:37 “He is French, which as you can imagine is the biggest crime of all” that got me good 🤣

[@VeXeDZERO]

Mate, I only recently got RDR2 and have binged out all your Vids from over 2 years ago. It's great to see you still making more. I like your sense of humour.

[@jackp.richardson6415]

It’s actually incredible how Rockstar went into making these detailed animations for the camp encounters. A lot of people would just go into the camp & kill everyone without even thinking.

[@realeddie-h3l]

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[@Thechief8771]

If I wasn't a rdr fan, I would've assumed the Lemoyne Raiders were a fictional sports team

[@gulabjamundevourer]

I love your videos fizhy! I hope you never stop making them (unless you don't want to make them any more) as all of us really like them!

[@imabot5520]

I don't know if you know this but if you capture him in chapter 4 he references the fact that you took over Shady Belle

[@aaronchatterjee7784]

Amazing video, I find that RDR2 is one of the most in depth games so many details im on my 4th play through and still finding new things

[@stevetackett581]

I get my RD fix from your videos. They are all top notch! Thank you so much for the time and hard work you put in to reveal the nuances of this masterpiece to us again! You have a true gift of putting a storyline together seamlessly. Thanks again

[@josem.castorena4853]

Like Arthur Morgan says "there a bunch of children playing soldiers."

[@renaigh]

I guess you could say, the Lemoyne Raiders were a 'Lost Cause'

[@HagridsMum420]

I could listen to you talk about red dead lore for days. I've played since release and got 100% completion 4 times now and it still doesn't get old. I still come across things I've never seen before, like how the raiders graffiti and vandalise Saint Denis, never seen that in any of my playthroughs that i can remember! Love this game and love your content on it.

[@MrDoggy-eu2jw]

you got a shit ton of patience, the furthest I've ever got out of completion in total was 80%.

[@darkcellofficialmusic]

@@MrDoggy-eu2jw I'm up to 91.8% but I know I can never get 100% because my story progress is at 99% despite having finished the main story and the epilogue

[@MrDoggy-eu2jw]

@@darkcellofficialmusic did you try the challenges, side missions, and hunt all the animals. Plus on top of that you gotta find collectibles on top of that.

[@darkcellofficialmusic]

@@MrDoggy-eu2jw do they count for the story completion or full game completion?

[@MrDoggy-eu2jw]

@@darkcellofficialmusic full game completion

[@stpbasss3773]

I'm on my second playthrough chapter 2 and last night I kept running into these guys everywhere. I love taking out the rival gangs in this game, especially when you can sneak up on them at a campfire and toss some dynamite at em.

[@pavan923]

When you get to the encounter where the veteran recalls the battle at copperhead landing I threw a dynamite stick into their camp right after he describes the "boom" sound from the artillery

[@Hadzy_07]

I’ve been watching your old rdr2 videos, and I’m so glad you are still making these!

[@Clementinewoofwoof]

Dude…it’s amazing how much detail is put into the campfire npc talking

[@TheWhiteDeath115]

As John I had an encounter with the Raiders outside of the tavern in Rhodes. Apparently there was a raider yelling and belittling a friend of his who he served with in the War. The friend became a member of society and chastised the raider for living in the past.

[@trenchgaming2166]

I do like that the leader of the leymone raiders is in a old captured Northern fort with a letter from a general killed by confederate soldiers. Really adds to the disenfranchised and "the south will rise again"feel of the old confederate states

[@sithiradulanjithgalhenaged6974]

If you deviate from the path and go through the field and cut the road, you can avoide the riders

[@WJT.]

32:50 Man this game is so confusing, you can carry the killer lady from the saloon in Valentine to the sheriff office and get her jailed, but if you try that with the Lemoine Raiders in Saint Denis you will get wanted by the police 😒😐

[@laidbackgaming2417]

I can never get enough of the high quality red dead content.

[@void-creature]

15:12 to clarify, as I understand it the Moonshiners themselves were Braithwaits, who were then going to sell the shine to the raiders. That's why Catherine calls it "her" shine

[@skydiver2234]

I love how fizhy brakes down his videos and truly shows the downfall of each character/gang

[@Mitsurugi2424]

24:42 I love how the way he says giddy-up is in the same tone as the taunt.

[@scoggishshowtime1473]

What if after the Shady Belle takeover The Raiders Fragmented but old members make new gangs and they still call themselves the LR plus weaker gang take that title/name to seem more of a threat Makes sense to call myself a member of something that people already fears.Thus making the raiders seem a little clustered and flustered So technically there could be half a dozen gangs with each a different "leader" like the guy at the fort that does not get mention after the bounty mission Maybe he was a small fry gang leader using a fake Raider member Like it's not to be a LR -no tax ever, hate every thing different then what you are told, get yellow thingy - Great Video Fizhy , make a list of your favorite interactions in the RDR2 there's never too rdr2 content

[@redbeard1050]

I absolutely love these gang documentary videos, they are great!

[@GRH_Roadhouse]

Thanks again for your help moving my fridge freezer fizhy mate appreciate it and remember pokemon legends is coming out on the 28th of this month Roadhouse

[@saitojharry]

44:32 yeah i found that funny. The ones i encountered on the way back whom i thought who would rescue him turned out to be rival bounty hunters. 😄

[@lowkeylaw]

Man every time I play or watch someone else play RDR2... It just amazes me with the sights and sounds. 2018 was 4 years ago (not really that long ago) but nonetheless just amazing graphics. 21:16 Lmao that caught me off-guard

[@TheNukedNacho]

I love the absolute power move of you taking on these gangs and bounties with the Bow. Just tanking their gunshots and countering by putting an arrow or two in them.

[@FatPegLegPirate]

Great video keep up the work, I look forward to these documentary videos every time they come out

[@julesgasior194]

12:35 the flies got it in for bill 🤣🤣

[@jackmiles1918]

R* did a great job when it came to their take on the civil war. Although the views of the South has problems that are very clear in todays age, that doesn't mean that every Northerner was good and every Southerner was bad. Best example is the 2 homeless vets from Valentine and Rhodes. The Union vet turned out to be devious and shady as we found out more. But the Confederate vet turned out to be a genuine and honest person. I'm English so I don't know too much about the civil war, but i was still able to appreciate this detail

[@JediHobbit89]

That, and a lot of the anti Southern bile came from the villainous Dutch. Though of course that's understandable as his father was killed at Gettysburg. I also appreciate the fact that the Murfee Brood, a gang of feral, inbred hill people were located far in the north. That's a very typical southern stereotype here in America.

[@thyme1483]

​@@JediHobbit89 more northern Appalachian vibes than southerners vibes

[@testacular6805]

23:14 it seems to me that William Marcus Anderson is a reference to Bloody Bill Anderson who was actually involved in the raid on lawrence kansas. I never noticed that detail until now.

[@prodpenthouse]

These videos gotta be tough to make.. Thank you sir for your efforts.

[@exoticzcoolgg9885]

I love playing rdr2 and listening to your vids and your voice is really nice thank you for these videos.

[@PhireandIce1999]

That random guy attacking you in the saloon with a knife was priceless

[@rhetoricjester934]

Love that red dead is so deep you can make an hour long video about a faction that your only interaction with is through in game player controlled action. No cinematic necessary. Open world world-building is a tricky thing to nail and although I hesitate to ever say anything is perfect. It's close, real close.

[@duplicarus]

The Lamoyne Raiders are so racist that it’s comical, which brings me a lot of enjoyment. Like the stereotype racist hick is just hilarious

[@bobcatfish2796]

Believe it or not, they don’t seem so fantastical and ridiculous if you’re familiar with the American South, even to this day

[@duplicarus]

@@bobcatfish2796 i mean… I live in the south, have most of my life. However North Carolina south is probably drastically different from say Georgia

[@christopherlambert7814]

@@duplicarus what part of NC? Im from the backwoods small town NC everybody is "old south" here...depends where you are in any state really, if your in Raleigh or Charlotte your not gonna see much of it.

[@duplicarus]

@@christopherlambert7814 yeah definitely lived mostly in Raleigh, currently in Greenville and it’s same way. I did hear however that there was high supremacist activity on the western side of the state. Which currently reading the about what happened in NC during the civil war it makes sense. Seeing as the eastern side of the state had more union sentiment than the west, it was also where the Union started operation in NC drawing some forces from the area into the Union at the time.

[@christopherlambert7814]

@@duplicarus yea im from Western NC...the kkk marches in my hometown every June and has as for a long long time...but there are also alot of good people here too, im a gun toting country boy myself but i hate the stigma that we get cause alot of us dont have hate in our heart even though we grow up around it.

[@jalengeneblazo1772]

So happy to see this series come back!

[@redshirt49]

The Braithwaites produced the moonshine, the Raiders were buying it and providing protection for the operation as well.

[@theflyingdutchman7969]

33:06 well I live in Texas where there isn’t state tax and the streets are shit, no sidewalks, and everything’s broken, old, or run down💀

[@emilefragz1885]

I'm not saying this is a bad thing because obviously I had just recently subscribed due to these in depth videos but it is actually awesome that this game is so huge that it can be milked for content years after release. Great Videos.

[@andrewp8284]

Especially because recent years have seen a lot of big game companies go downhill in the level of thought, effort, detail, and ultimately “love” they put into later series titles. Like Battlefield 2042 recently.

[@emilefragz1885]

@@andrewp8284 Most Triple A titles at this point are just cash cows.

[@biohazard724]

There are a bunch of eerie parallels to current events here in the when it comes to the raiders

[@magnet1te615]

You know your Day is saved when the legend uploads an red dead gang video

[@void-creature]

37:44 loyalty... Arthur, it ain't - I HAD A GOD DAMNED *PLLLLAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!!*

[@gwoody4003]

What I had taken from Red Dead Redemption 2's story and charachters is that good and bad isn't so black and white, and entirely dependant on perspective Just about every thing in the game is an example of or result of the dynamic nature of morality. The whole honor system in the game is kinda indicative of that. You aren't encouraged or discouraged to play a certain way, other than the public's perception of you, and the pride or guilt you feel after making a decision. And the game does a good job of making a player invested in the story and charachters so they do feel good or bad about their actions. You are forced to do bad things to protect your people or just to survive, and then often, later you are shown the results of those choices. You justify them the same way the corrupt sherrif or the lemoyne raiders do. You did it for the good of your tribe.

[@jarrodsullivan9230]

I agree to a certain extent. I love that the karma system kinda just exists, you aren't really rewarded or punished depending on any choices you make. It only fails for me when you get to the end, as they go against all of that and punish you by having the main antagonist of the game murder you because you didn't make the right choices. Feels like a missed opportunity to do something different. I remember reading somewhere (this may not even be true so don't quote me on it, just think it's a cool idea) that the epilogue of the game would be different depending on your karma, so to better match your specific playstyle. Good karma had you playing as John, building the ranch and getting the family back as we see in the base game. But for bad karma, you'd play as Dutch, descending further into insanity whilst building the gang of Native Americans we see him within the first game, robbing banks and raising hell with them. The mentality was to reward the player regardless of their playstyle by giving them whichever ending best matches their choices. Again, may not even be true but it would've been cool to see it implemented. As is though I still think the karma system is pretty solid, certainly more so than in the first game where it really didn't matter what you did.

[@gwoody4003]

I will have to play through again and find out. I pretty much have neutral honor the whole game til the end, then it gives you all those opportunities to repair your honor with good deeds so that no matter how gnarly you been, you can still get the "good" ending. I kinda wanted to go full villian next time anyways. I never achieved all the bandit challenges cus I never really did stick-ups and coach robberies. After the Valentine bank roberry, Arthur is balling and you never really need money again. Especially if you find a few treasures.

[@commadorecundo5028]

The author of the letter at 22:35, William Marcus Anderson is most likely inspired by William T Anderson "Bloody Bill", an officer of Quantrill's Raiders; An infamous group of bushwhackers that outlaws Jesse and Frank James served in.

[@Yougotcaged102]

I think you know a game is good when someone can make an hour long analysis on the history of a gang that the developers created just so that you can have a few extra heads to put bullets in