Flight Crew Briefings New Airbus Briefing Policy.

Airbus New Briefing Policy
threats and error management

[@christosphillips3568]

Excellent presentation thanks for sharing. First briefing was funny - F/O "In case of fuel we have NO extra!" Captain's Reply " Ok Thats Great" Lool😂

[@airliner791]

Thanks for sharing😄

[@jmndaa]

This is very a courageous, frank, advanced human factors oriented thought process, focused on addressing the elephant in the room first, the routine blabber for CVR is avoided.

[@jamaljamal1004]

Amazing point of view 👏

[@jakapituana1]

Nice 👍👍👍

[@Sams911]

I am really tired of manufacturer and OEM's telling airline and pilots how to fly the airplane. I mean I get there are some things you have to provide (limitations, etc)... but Ford does not tell me how to drive safely... That is something a professional driver is more qualified to do.. and I think airlines and their 90 year+ history of developing safe flying methods should decide what to brief, how to brief it and so on..

[@valerieregters9462]

Merci pour ces informations

[@jani99m]

Very nice 👍

[@jamaljamal1004]

Thanks 😊

[@matthendricks9666]

It is good that he will use BOTH reversers in case of an RTO. This needs to be in absolutely every smart briefing.

[@jamaljamal1004]

Absolutely agree 👍

[@erni172320]

[@NadimAJ]

I noticed they didn't refer to any charts

[@gerryortiz8324]

FO: “In terms of fuel we have no extra” Capt: “Ok that’s great”- (ignores fuel completely to focus on hotspots.)😂 Mitigation strategies?

[@jamaljamal1004]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@guiduz3469]

Playback speed X3 and then it’s realistic

[@kaesarromanova1876]

Arrival briefing makes no sense because you need to change controls between PF and PM inumerous time! As usual Airbus setting stupid procedures! I give few months for them to change it again!

[@jamaljamal1004]

Thanks for your valuable comment , i think its no more needed to hand over control to do briefing is more like discussion type rather than repeating of SOP, but its a good point you have mentioned Airbus should clarify it , Thanks and looking for more pilots contribution.

[@kaesarromanova1876]

@@jamaljamal1004 09:59 They are talking beautifully but nobody is flying the airplane. For departure the briefing is ok but for arrival is just no sense as a lot of airbus procedures.

[@fernandobeduschi1487]

I could not agree more with you! I fly A320 for about 11 years ... From the very beginning was clear that is not easy aircraft to study ... I mean, much information spread about the same issue on FCOM and FCTM, both instruction manuals written by a lawyer ... So from the very beginning, many pilots always complained about how "hard" is to study any maneuver .... Airbus never fixed it ... Now they created a stupid briefing ... I just agreed with one point, we don't have to waste time reading the chart number, etc... As long as both pilots check the box, however this PNF, PF ping pong is stupid... How Can we manage it during a complex failure, like dual Hydraulic failure or Emergency electric configuration ?? On a normal day ... The ping pong is stupid but acceptable ( think of the box they say... ) but in an emergency 😡😡😡. Airbus please fix fcom and fctm keep all information together instead of complicating something that was working very well ...

[@juanpablodavila6352]

First I think its short enough not to make a control transfer, just a conversation about the plan and threats, like a normal conversation during cruise. Also there are no heads down during this briefing cause you and your crew have already checked the charts and fmgs according to the new sop. Of course in the event of an emergency or major failure you should act accordingly, transfer the plane state the plan and then land asap.

[@0403696969]

As usual Airbus complicates the things and make it more difficult with a nonsense .. disrepute the information with a ping pong way between PF & PM makes the briefing unsafe has no sequence ,confusing & illogic .. also no charts referrals and no concentration on the vital things as fire during takeoff or after departure which is part of the emergency brief as it used to be , I believe it’s a big mistake as nowadays operations the pilots stress is high due to the minimum rest and high rotation it would be much better to remind each other with the emergency procedures .. sorry but it’s really disappointed that Airbus changed the brief to such a weak and unsafe brief

[@christosphillips3568]

I will agree that the emergency brief should be included , but there is always that option available from the minute that one crew member is of limited experience. As far as the general lay-out I find it's better than the old one as the old one was more of a memorized poem with neither pilot really listening . This is more of an interactive nature and key points can be brought up for discussion. The pre-condition of course is that both members should follow strictly the SOPs and do the preparation properly, so that there is no need to go back and repeat the same stuff over and over.

[@rampy4963]

Forget about OTP as well. The threat is waffle, um, err.... sounds like you don't know what you're doing. Sound bites that prompt internalized thinking and promote mental model alignment. The assumption with this method is you've just been parachuted into the cockpit without any SA leading up to it. Briefing a firm touchdown has no practical meaning. Instead, it is better to brief a latest point of touchdown to highlight the importance of landing distance. Evidently, an engineering approach to TEM rather than an operating approach.