FLIGHT REVIEW -- Arrows RC MiG-29 64mm EDF PNP (The RC Geek)

[@Icarusthe2nd_RC_and_friends]

Hi Chris, what a nice vid again! A lot of god info, no unnecessary chit chat, just the right stuff that you need to setup the plane and improve it where necessary. We need more vids like this !! Greetings from Belgium!

[@Thercgeek]

Thank you very much!

[@mrhilma]

Having flown it now - I am keener than ever. Fantastic product from Arrows Hobby, who appear to be going from strength to strength.

[@charlesrestivo870]

Great video Airplane information no BS no stupid child like jokes and language.No family members talking over flight .Just overall a smart concise video .

[@JN24185]

I just think this is a gorgeous plane. I love that our hobby can allow someone not wealthy to still buy a badass jet like this. So cool. God it sounds good too 😀

[@garyflint1965]

Hi Chris, purchased this aircraft a couple of weeks ago. Read lots of different opinions on setup and got to the point of confusion. Saw this video and went with your exact setup except on the mains I used half the original spring and half a ball-point pen spring, so it sits lower but still has some cushioning when landing. Maiden flight was superb cofg at 100mm and she was off the grass field in 100 feet. No trimming required and flaps worked perfect. During the second flight one of the mains failed to come down on the first cycle but o.k. on the second. I noticed that when the gear is up the wheels are hard up in the wells. So I removed the retracts and put a couple of washers under the front edge and all is o.k. now. Great video and thanks for the setup tips.

[@Thercgeek]

Congrats on the maiden flight success! I’m so glad it was helpful. 😊

[@rcf4phantomflyer]

Hey Chris nice watching this video. I have the same mig29 bit with a new paint scheme. Anyways you really inspire me and my girlfriend to work on rc planes and fly. I have watched alot of ur videos! Nice to see you like doing the same with ur planes.

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks so much!! That’s really great that your gf is into rc too. Be sure to hold on to her! 😊

[@howardwilliams2587]

Great looking model. Reminds me of the RusJet Mig 29 that Vitaly Robertus flew at the 2011 WC. Beautiful profile on low pass. Thanks for sharing ...

[@Thercgeek]

Yeah, that RusJet mig is an insane model. So nice!

[@Jazzman-bj9fq]

Nice jet for sure. Looks like there are a few companies out there that are stepping up the design aesthetics without asking for super large price tags. For a minute you saw the price of rc planes really ballooning like crazy which is insane since we're essentially flying coffee cups with electric motors and batteries in them.

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Just grabbed one of these. Just grabbed your twin 64mm burner kit. Looking forward to it!

[@Thercgeek]

Awesome, thank you! 😊

[@jeffhenderson934]

Bought this well over a year ago. Put it in the Hangar of Death and completely forgot about it. Glad this video showed up in the feed. I haven’t done your recommended main gear upgrade, but will before taking it out for the maiden. If it survives the 1st six flights/landings I’ll order the afterburners for it. (I seem to be missing the “landing chromosome” for edfs. I’ve replaced more nose gear pins than Carter has little white pills)

[@Thercgeek]

Ha, nice find!

[@canamwing6999]

I fly mine off a rough grass strip. I use the new Spectrum 6S 3200mAh. I wrapped the nose gear strut with duct tape twice and it works great! So far I love it with this battery and I a getting 3 plus minute flights.

[@elijahglasser1421]

Brilliant jet

[@alainrac56]

thank you Chris for the tips, after modification of main undercarriage, I did the maiden yesterday, and despite CG is 95mm, I think it is still too much forward. Roaring Top 35c 4000 battery is max aft, and this is the lightest battery on the market...to bad I'll need to test with some lead at the back...after a 3.5 minute flight, the 35c battery is too hot, also, as it needs a lot of power to fly correctly. The plane is beautiful and good craftmanship, but a bit underpowered and too nose heavy.

[@Thercgeek]

That was about my experience with it too. That’s where if it was a touch larger, it would have been a much nicer flyer.

[@jsean13]

lol do you happen to remember which springs you used from which brand pens?? Need to find these springs you used for the mains.

[@Thercgeek]

I don’t remember. Any ball point pen spring should work so long as they’re both the same brand.

[@jettechdonatkins]

Great review Chris! Cool little jet and nice landing! My brother is a new pilot and I turned him onto your channel,he likes it a lot and wants the e-flite 70mm Viperjet

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks Don! The Viper is a great little jet.

[@alainrac56]

@@Thercgeek Yes, my Viper is my favorite EDF jet!

[@DeucesWildRC]

Excellent demo Chris, very informative as well 👍

[@Thercgeek]

Thank you!

[@DrCho1978]

Wow, its sound like a real jet. Great Video~!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks!

[@cfrincon]

Ducted fan jet technology has come of age. Yes sir!

[@Thercgeek]

That is indeed true!

[@pedromonteiro2941]

Hello Chris MIG-29 does look FANTASTIC ! How does it compare with F15, same manufacturer ? Which handles better ? Which goes faster ? Happy Flying ! Lisbon PORTUGAL

[@Thercgeek]

I’ve not flown the F-15, so I can’t really make a comparison unfortunately.

[@mikemetz8016]

Hi Chris. Need some help or advice. I set mine up with your throws for everything. I’m using a safe receiver. I get 30 up and down from the elevator with safe on. I use a 6s 4000 60c. I had horrible maiden. I gave it full power on runway. Waited a bit and started lift. Almost hit a tree at end of field because it would not lift quick enough. I kept full speed and tried again to climb after takeoff and still had hardly any climb. So I tried to bring it in but it since I couldn’t flare it crashed but I was lucky to get a clean repairable cut. I have my elevator pitched slightly down maybe 5cm under the where you see match up to rear fuse. Most my jets seem to need a slight forward edge down pitch on elevator hence the 5mm. Any suggestions on what I could or should do?

[@Thercgeek]

I’m so sorry to hear that! If you’re using safe, you want to have the rates set to 100% all around as the angle limits seem to be proportional to the rates. So, more rates will give you a larger angle limit. It honestly sounds to me that safe was limiting you too much.

[@thomassawchuk9668]

Hi Chris. Thank you again for all of the great review and knowledge videos. I have a quick question: what material did you use for the spacers? Thanks.

[@Thercgeek]

Do you mean inside the struts? I just used a piece of wood dowel.

[@jonbarnes7877]

Good stuff Chris!

[@Thercgeek]

Thank you!

[@rc-fannl7364]

Flies well, and that afterburner effect looks really nice.

[@EDF_FANatic]

chris when will you review more freewing planes??

[@Thercgeek]

Based on what I’ve currently got going on the bench, it’ll be a while.

[@lewiemotorsports3616]

Ive been apprehensive about building mine but this vid made me feel better about it, just gotta decide between the 630 or ar637

[@Thercgeek]

Either one will do the trick. I guess the question is if you want to bother with a gyro or not. 😆

[@lewiemotorsports3616]

@@Thercgeek I'm thinking because it's a mig, a gyro might save it when i attempt the cobra one too many times lmfao

[@EDF_FANatic]

Just got this plane. One of the elevator servos was fluttering which was fixed by adding Velcro to the side for dampening. The other elevator servo isn't fluttering but has some vibration at certain throws. Really strange, not sure how to fix it.

[@Thercgeek]

I’d guess it’s a result of the stab being extremely light to the servo and so as a result it has so little load on it it causes the servo to to hunt around center. Does it go away when you lightly press on the stab with your finger? Do you have a gyro active in the airplane?

[@EDF_FANatic]

@The RC Geek good evaluation, I didn't think about that. The servo that was fluttering wouldn't do it with a bit of pressure however the servo that has the stab vibrating still vibrates during movement. The movement isn't smooth at all. I have the as3x gyro. I thought it may be the servo not being glued in well, took it apart and saw that the servo was glued to the paint and not really to the foam side. The pushrods also had a bit of play in them. Fixed those things and still getting a bit of vibration, left me no choice but to order better servos and ball link pushrods. Bit disappointing out of the box, but hoping she will fly fantastically eventually. Such a beautiful plane.

[@Thercgeek]

Well, you definitely shouldn’t have any problems after the replacements. So, if nothing else it provides peace of mind and confidence in the system.

[@SuperMagnum2011]

thank you .🇬🇧

[@jsean13]

Is there a jet in this size that you think flys better that’s a low aspect ratio jet? My next buy needs to be a jet this size for transport

[@Thercgeek]

Though not technically low aspect ratio, Have a look at the eflite A-10 64mm edf. It’s a pretty amazing flying jet! The wing comes off easily for transport if needed.

[@jetmanlarry502]

As far as your throws go on your elevator, rudder, ailerons, and flaps what are your percentage settings on your spektrum please if you don’t mind thank you.

[@Thercgeek]

Since you have a spektrum radio, if you prefer, you can just download my dx file at thercgeek.com/downloads

[@JetAlfred57]

Sehr schöne Lakierung👍👍👍👍👍😀

[@Realitygetreal]

I agree a touch larger so I bought the 80mm version by another supplier

[@Thercgeek]

The Freewing is a really sweet flyer kzbin.info/www/bejne/fICXdJuqqLZ_q7M

[@jerrywillfong5770]

Great review. Do you always CG the airplane with retracts down? If not what is the deciding factor? TIA.

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! I do CG gear down. It's best to CG in the takeoff and landing config as that at least ensures you'll have a flyable CG in the most critical phases of flight. The CG does typically shift with the gear which is normal, but if you don't have the CG right in the takeoff and landing config, then it'll be a really short flight.

[@jerrywillfong5770]

@@Thercgeek Thanks I will remember to do that.

[@fastr144]

great video! if you had a choice, no other variables in play, would you choose this or the Su-27?

[@Thercgeek]

Well, I've not flown the freewing SU-27 or the eflite SU-30. I do have an SU-30 coming which I'm excited to fly. I like the larger size of it.

[@KenSprouseJr]

Great review as always Chris! Quick question for you. Where did you get the pitch gages that you use in your videos? Seems like such a nice easy way to get those measurements! Keep up the good work!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! It’s called an accuthrow meter and was made by great planes. Unfortunately, they’re not made anymore. 😕

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

They sell a billet aluminum one thats very very nice and like $9 on amazon

[@enzok6414]

Hi, Chris. I recently tried to replace the spring on my FMS F18 mains. I found if the springs on the mains are too soft. The plane will do that rollover at 5:59 when steering while taxing with some speed. If you touch the wingtip and the plane rolls over to the side easily, then your springs might be too soft.

[@Thercgeek]

makes sense. The springs I used were what I could find in my shop, haha! I would've preferred something a bit stiffer.

[@ShadowOppsRC]

Good review RC Geek!

[@Thercgeek]

Thank you!

[@melvinriverarcjet6544]

Hello chris.how's the cg by the book?thanks in advance

[@Thercgeek]

I don’t remember. I’d recommend starting with my recommendation from the vid.

[@melvinriverarcjet6544]

@@Thercgeek thanks

[@airhammer6203]

Nice flight and review, Chris. Who makes that throw gauge?? AirHammer out!!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! It's called an accu throw meter and was made by great planes. Unfortunately, it's not made anymore. :(

[@pietroseven8228]

In my hangar still not maidened, such a pretty plane I do not want to dismantle it on the maiden ;)

[@Thercgeek]

I definitely understand!

[@philipm8239]

Hi Chris, Philip from Sydney down under any chances you could do a review of the new Arrow F15. I just wanted to know the performance comparison between F15 and the Mig29 Im looking to purchase what you think is the best one. Need to decide quick as Arrows Brand plane seems about to disappear in the Aussie Market. P.S I love your review of the of the seagull P47 Bunny.

[@Thercgeek]

Hi Philip, unfortunately at the moment, I don’t have plans to review the f15. They’re both the same physical size, but I think the f15 has a bit more wing, so may be a little more user friendly for landings. I found the mig to fly pretty heavy.

[@philipm8239]

@@Thercgeek Hi Chris, thank you and ill go for the F15 then. Good day from Sydney.

[@melvinriverarcjet6544]

Hello chris.palnning to get this mig 29.how she fly is it stable as my f16 70mm?thanks cheers from dubai😎

[@Thercgeek]

I’d say the f16 flies more stable than this one. While it does fly nicely, it flies kind of heavy. If it were just a touch bigger, it would be perfect.

[@melvinriverarcjet6544]

@@Thercgeek i think im not ready for this one.thank you very much😎

[@volksyes9477]

This is an old vid, but man! those mains are good for the F-14 scale wise wonder If I could shove one in mine with a few mods.

[@Thercgeek]

I’m not sure the retracts would hold up to the weight of the tomcat.

[@yorgosrenken3651]

can i buy this as a first edf jet ?

[@Thercgeek]

I would not recommend this as a first jet. Honestly, the eflite viper is a great first jet. bit.ly/EflViperJet

[@i3dm]

link to mini burners please?

[@Thercgeek]

Here it is. It's also in the video description: thercgeek.com/the-centerburner/

[@victorrcjets7660]

(dumb cell phone!) good Landing with your modifications!

[@Thercgeek]

I'm not sure what that means, haha! I'm not sure if my mods improved the landings or not, but certainly gave it the right gear stance which helped with takeoff.

[@victorrcjets7660]

@@Thercgeek can i throw my cell phone under a truck? I said good landing of course!

[@Thercgeek]

Oh, haha! Gotta love that auto correct. 🤣

[@ror-ys3qp]

if you removed landing gear that might make it lighter and fly not so heavy feeling....like the Sebart Mig29

[@Thercgeek]

That would help, but then would require a bungee launch. I’m in SoCal, so it’s all about pavement out here which would tear this thing up without gear. If you fly off of grass, it may be worth a try.

[@ror-ys3qp]

The RC Geek no no it can be hand launched..search sebart mig29 to see

[@Thercgeek]

Maybe the sebart, but I wouldn’t want to hand launch this one.

[@valerijuskaniusas5349]

Good review!!!And I wish it has to be little bit cheaper 😁

[@Thercgeek]

Thank you! I agree with you, for a few dollars less, you can have a eflite A-10 BNF (includes a receiver) and that airplane is pretty darn amazing.

[@austinhcoe]

64mm is the new 70mm!! Mmmm, wadka.

[@Thercgeek]

Haha, there’s kind of some truth too that!

[@elvingalarza4565]

Where can I get the mm ruler device your using to set your rates?

[@Thercgeek]

It's called an accu throw meter and was made by great planes. Unfortunately, it's not made anymore. :(

[@elvingalarza4565]

Awesome thanks for the info. That sucks but I will be buying them after burners for mine. Awesome stuff

[@amasat71]

👍👍👍

[@ror-ys3qp]

must fly off pavement?

[@e30kitty]

299$? In germany the ask 499€ (563,62$) for this o.0

[@mdriyasatali]

Very nice #mdriyasatali

[@williewideback]

I agree, it need to be larger

[@mikeyfourbarrel8473]

The Russian text says “Trump Air” 😂

[@Thercgeek]

haha

[@lmramos44]

Good for some, too small for me.

[@Thercgeek]

I don’t disagree with you. It’s a cool model, but the bigger freewing one flies so much nicer.

[@lmramos44]

@@Thercgeek yes I have the twin 80 Freewing. A very comfortable flight.