Flydigi Apex 4! I can't think of anything witty here.

[@KnoxAgain]

That Cowboy Bebop desk/mouse pad is awesome!

[@EightSixMatt]

Cowboy Bebop may just simply be the best there ever was for me.

[@justjoe1071]

Stopped by to say the same. Clean as heck.

[@Shadowed_Earth]

Flydigi vader 4 pro is coming out this month on the 28th

[@EightSixMatt]

Hell yeah (feels quick) I'm gonna have to order that

[@Shadowed_Earth]

@EightSixMatt same kinda hating the trigger on the apex 4. Everything else is pretty awesome. I wish they would implement paddles for the buttons underneath

[@akaoula]

Which one is good apex 4 or vader 4 pro?

[@乾淨核能]

what's the max number of micro you can set with this device? thank you!

[@willy7968]

Now that the Vader 4 Pro is out and I have the Vader 3 Pro, idk which one to upgrade to. What makes the position of the back paddle better than that of Vader 3 Pro?

[@f.f.2260]

The Apex 4 is the top of the line one. It has got adaptive triggers, twice the battery, better build quality, more range on thumbstick adjustment, better anti friction ring, smaller dead zone, a screen, a window on the vibration rotors, leds, a personalizable light, and triggers with an adjustable range. The only Vader 4 Pro advantages are the microswitch for the trigger stops, which simply does a click but is not adjustable, the c and z buttons, which I find difficult to press and not so useful, and finally the dedicated thumbsticks sensors which theoretically should provide better thukbsticks response and linearity.

[@willy7968]

@@f.f.2260 the dedicated thumb stick you mentioned, does that mean the thumb stick will be better or same with the Apex 4? I don’t care about the battery, vibration, screen, adaptive triggers Because I play majorly Warzone on my PC, I care about the sticks, centering on the stick and everything that has to do with the sticks(V3Pro stick is not good enough) and the mouse click triggers, I will take that ahead of the comfort on the Apex 4 cos damnn, it’s unbeatable if u play FPS I just need to be sure if the analog sticks on the Vader 4 pro will better or same as Apex 4 . If not, I will just go for the Apex 4, I really like the mouse click triggers though, I don’t wanna trade it for anything 🥹🥹

[@f.f.2260]

@willy7968 The sticks are actually better on the Apex 4 since they only have 0.5% deadzone, while the Vader 4 Pro has 1%. The Apex 4 also goes down to 30g while the Vader only to 40 (lower is better), and the Apex also has a stornger centering. The Vader 4 Pro has independent stick sensors, which should simply make the imput easier to receive for your machine (it doesn't actually make any percievable difference) and maintain a better linearity, according to what Flydigi says (honestly looks like a gimmick since if you put a linear curve in any other top range controller, it is still gonna be linear and there won't be any noticeable variations).

[@willy7968]

@@f.f.2260 Thank you for the insights, for reference...what's the % deadzone on the Vader 3 pro and what's the g on Vader 3 pro? I actually waited till for the Vader 4 pro cos I thought the centering will be on par with the Apex 4, this is sad mahnn

[@f.f.2260]

@@willy7968 deadzone is around 10%, while the g is 55

[@BobRoss69420]

does it have hd rumble or just regular

[@hoodlum293]

I got a warning for using this controller for warzone. Why is that?

[@EightSixMatt]

Sorry for the delay - best I can do is offer an educated guess that a macro triggered as a script against their anticheat? I don't think all games love the use devices that could be seen as creating an advantage. But just a guess I don't really know and I don't play CoD myself

[@ernyoung8357]

Looking to nab this controller for myself soon, but from my research you might be getting a warning because you're using the adaptive trigger functionality in the Flydigi config app. Afaik when you launch a game through the config app, its injecting altered game data into your game in order to make the adaptive triggers work properly, which can set off anti-cheat systems. If you can, try using "DS mode" (DS = DualSense) instead of "Standard mode" on the triggers if the option is available (might not work for all games, and might not work wirelessly).

[@EightSixMatt]

@@ernyoung8357 Good explanation, that makes sense to me.

[@ernyoung8357]

@@EightSixMatt PCGamingWiki has a list of games that support the Standard mode on the Apex 4's triggers if you want to see for yourself. I'm curious to see how exactly the adaptive triggers are implented in Elden Ring... 🤔

[@swervature]

Came for the wit, stayed for the turntable review 😛

[@swervature]

Also -- New video AND I rocked my 86M shirt today! Great minds and all of that. I just put the hoodie back in the closet from the coat rack last week, though. I figured with summer being a few days away I'll be okay.

[@EightSixMatt]

It’s still holding up alright!? Heck yeah

[@swervature]

@@EightSixMatt -- Like new. I don't wash my graphic tees in hot water and always turn them inside out. That and it's HARDCORE PINK, lol. Mostly the first thing, I think.

[@daveleaverdl]

App doesn't connect to my controller someone please help lol

[@scragglie]

DO NOT BUY THIS CONTROLLER. flydigi does not honor overseas purchases in their warranty and this controller is EXTREMELY FRAGILE AND BUGGY. it is a classic shiny chinese piece of garbage. the components, specifically the joysticks are INCREDIBLY easy to break with normal usage, and the connectivity is shoddy at best, it often loses connection and inputs stick. again i warn anyone looking at this controller to NOT BUY IT.

[@EightSixMatt]

Oof, that sounds terrible if its true about them not honoring their word. Has anyone else had this issue? Sorry for that experience man. No one loves companies that are bad to their consumer base. :(

[@scragglie]

@@EightSixMatt im pretty upset, evidently haha. but yea apparently the controllers had a defect and they are replacing them for people who have broken joysticks. ive emailed them today so i will have to wait and see if they honor that statement.

[@EightSixMatt]

@@scragglie Let me know if they make good, if they don't thats just trash of them, and I'd like to know.

[@scragglie]

@@EightSixMatt sure thing, i will let you know what they say.

[@scragglie]

@@EightSixMatt sure thing, ill let you know what they say, if anything.

[@auralxtc]

Or get a KingKong 3 Pro controller for $50 less. This is silly.

[@EightSixMatt]

KK3 is pretty nice - differently nice. :)

[@bugsbunny3400]

Nah, i’ve just bought the Apex 4 for 70$ and at this price I think its the best controller you can find out there, at least for my needs

[@Shadowed_Earth]

Kk3 is pretty good but the build quality on the apex 4 I think Is on another level. The kk3 is actually fastest latency for controllers right now.

[@EightSixMatt]

@@Shadowed_Earth I didn't realize it was the fastest :D, they both feel nice quality, but yeah that Apex feels like that scene in Jurassic Park: "Are they heavy?" 'Yeah' "Than they are expensive put them down" 😂

[@Shadowed_Earth]

@EightSixMatt hahaha %1000. I really wish the kk3 came with tension sticks as the hall affect sticks are SO sensitive