FNAF Security Breach: The Problem With Over-Ambition

The Brand New Entry in the FNAF Franchise just came out; Five Nights at Freddy's: Security Breach, to mixed reviews from fans and critics alike, so I figured I'd throw my 2 cents into the ring to discuss why I think Security Breach's biggest problem is its Over-Ambition.
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0:00 Intro
2:32 The Long Development of Security Breach
4:12 The Lacking Story of Security Breach
11:39 The Tedious Gameplay of Security Breach
22:10 The Impressive Visuals of Security Breach
24:15 Conclusion
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[@LSMark]

What did you think of Security Breach 🤔

[@IcyDiamond]

Haven’t played it lol

[@gigachadradahn4494]

From what I’ve played it’s good

[@TheDigitalApple]

……..pretty damn good

[@alwaysstaymessy]

Gay

[@kwahhh]

i know the game has issues but glamrock freddy has become one of my favorite characters recently, so i like it more than i probably should.

[@canofcheese5682]

Literally you know the game has something wrong when the “king of fnaf” finishes the game and asks if they ran out of budget at the end

[@mayonnaise3959]

Did he really say that?

[@RSproductions3425]

@@mayonnaise3959 He does say it when He gets the bad ending a.k.a leaving the Pizzaplex

[@annoyingkittycat6449]

Big L

[@mayonnaise3959]

@@RSproductions3425 thanks

[@AzureRoxe]

Not just that, but the game's issues and blatantly broken garbage pretty much made him quit the game for a bit.

[@eoncaliber]

I remember seeing someone have the idea of a “daytime mode” for the pizzaplex, where you can explore the place without the threats. I so wish they would’ve done this.

[@nickrustyson8124]

I mean sure, but that sounds like a bonus feature they could give within a update

[@LycanMOON]

Yes and then toggle if you want the boss fights or not

[@midnight_horizen8184]

They'll probably do it when the DLC comes out. (Yes DLC was confirmed in advance)

[@SirProtagonist]

If this game was just go explore the mega pizzaplex and play around with a bunch of minigames without the horror aspect, like tower unite I would be so down to play it.

[@distinguishedallureproduct879]

I said in another video that a DLC would be really dope where you play as another kid exploring the Pizza plex before the virus, playing games meeting the crew, finally able to play Bowling and Go Cart lol and in the late game of the game the virus takes hold and it gets creepy and we see more Vanny and become one of the missing children a week before Gregory shows up

[@noahbullock6696]

This game got “scary” confused with “dirty”… every time they wanted to make the characters look scarier they just made it look grimier without explaination. Why does Chika look like she rolled in mud even though 5 minutes earlier she’s shiny clean

[@mavymagdowney9798]

tbf that's what they did in the first game, like freddy with the bloody handprint. and then fnaf 2 flipped it with shiny toy versions. both can be scary but i think they failed to strike that balance here, they look too friendly.

[@noahbullock6696]

@@mavymagdowney9798 at least in that game it’s actually over the course of 5 nights. This game is only one night and it’s implied that they’re gonna open the next day. So are we supposed to assume they just get dirty and are cleaned every night

[@doodletron65b74]

@@K1llM31FYouCan ....but how does that make them dirty?

[@veyonixx]

@@K1llM31FYouCan what the fuck are you talking about

[@gardenjhr]

I think you’re all forgetting that chica… got crushed… in a fucking TRASH COMPACTOR.

[@PandaorasBox]

Honestly, I think a silent Gregory would have the potential to be more emotional and way better. Maybe just whimpers and panting to give a reaction. Scared to silence. "That is the security guard. She can help!" *Cue head shaking animation and frightened whimpers* "No? Why not? You seem frightened. Very well. I suppose we can find another way." Animatronics near by? A smal gasp and muffled heavy breathing. He could be nameless. Or it could be revealed at the end of the game. Or in the first Vanessa scene where she scolds Freddy. "A child is hiding in the pizzaplex. His name is Gregory." So much potential, wasted.

[@GDroidX]

I Do Like Silent Gregory Better. This Way, The Game Can Avoid Voice Overlapping Or Just Being Cut When You Get Jumpscared.

[@kassiaactuallydraws9361]

Agreed

[@Pihsrosnec]

yeah, plus it would better sell the idea that this is a scared child trapped in an unfamiliar location being hunted by a security guard and a squad of robots. any scary factor the concept of this game has is completely removed when the protagonist acts like they're aware they're the protagonist. like, Gregory seems completely aware of his inability to die permanently.

[@icantthinkofanything798]

That and the voice actress for Gregory sounds so unlike a small boy that it is SUPER distracting

[@icantthinkofanything798]

@@GDroidX AND it would've lent itself to the fandom characterizing the silent protagonist with just enough personality in any way they wanted. Just look at the atrocities they committed with William afton back when he was like 16 purple pixels if there was LESS info about Gregory they would've had a field day making up little father son fanfics with him and Freddy

[@thenewgameboy8095]

One thing I never got was how Vannesa was changed so drastically. In the trailer, she seemed to want to help Gregory and knew about the dangers. But in the game she is a brat that gets two minutes of screen time total, including Vanny.

[@user-xh8df9oz4y]

Yeah it really annoys me how Vanny/Vanessa barely get much screen time or explanation aside from the endings. Sure, the CD collectibles give us a bit of insight into them, but given that they seemingly play a major part into the game's story (especially with how hyped up they were in the teasers) there should have been more interactions with them.

[@CelesticEclipse]

most of vannys appearences no one even knows that shes even there like the main attrium when you activate the disc or the sewers after you dismantle chica your most likely to skip these events which really only leads to the lost and found and the vanny bad ending which dont even last for that long

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

It was probably intended to mislead peoples into thinking she wants to help you, like how FFPS trailer when it came out.

[@user-xh8df9oz4y]

@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 That doesn't make much sense though. Why would they try to mislead viewers into thinking Vanessa helps you? It's not like there's a major twist where she betrays you or anything like that. That just kind of seems like an unnecessary thing to "mislead" people about. I feel like what really happened is that Vanessa was supposed to play a bigger role in the game, and was probably planned to help Gregory escape. However, due to the devs not having enough time to properly finish it (like other parts of the game) they made her only appear a few times in the game.

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

@@user-xh8df9oz4y Maybe, I don't know it is not the first time Scott mislead peoples into thinking something else.

[@nopenope4848]

I also absolutely hate how overhyped Vanny was I get having to cut stuff etc, but cutting the main antagonist???

[@husariuspl117]

I've heard some lines that seemed like there was suppose to be a moment where you would play as Vanessa and talk with Burntrap (Afton/Purple Guy) I hope that they find a way to add the stuff they were cut, maybe release some kind of a side game with Vanessa, somewhat of a prequel to SB

[@nopenope4848]

@@husariuspl117 I hope the DLC saves this game a bit... But there so much stuff to cover!

[@3e32b05]

@@nopenope4848 will there be dlc?

[@nopenope4848]

@@3e32b05 ye i think it was confirmed to come eventually

[@husariuspl117]

@@3e32b05 there will be, but not soon, first they wanna fix the issues in the base game and THEN add a dlc

[@mdrivera8481]

I have a problem when collectibles in a game are pointless. The fact that the collectibles, all but three, serve NO PURPOSE is baffling and a huge missed opportunity

[@dumbumbumbum8649]

There’s an ending that requires you to find 60 of the presents…

[@jarrethoglesbee4596]

@@dumbumbumbum8649 Right but the game doesn't tell you thats what you need to do. In fact most walthrough sites dont even realise this and mistakenly atribute the ending to gett all the golden plushes.

[@Im_alivexx]

And there’s no lore

[@karaluchyiworsuchy]

they wanted to do SO MUCH with this game, and the game itself gave so little, its just sad

[@The_mrbob]

@@jarrethoglesbee4596 it's fnaf, what do you expect. They don't exactly make secrets easy to find. Remember when you used to have to go into files or there was a 1/100000 to find secrets. If anything having to collect all the collectibles is pretty obvious. Still a bad game though.

[@smflash]

"Something about Gregory seems.. off." I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that! The reason why I initially thought that Gregory was actually a robot instead of a child was because I found what he said to not really be what kids normally talk like.

[@karaluchyiworsuchy]

he is so badly written, omg. Freddie is just adorable, animatronics are fine, but this kids talks like a god damn toaster

[@wesleyswoodentreehouse6350]

He's very dislikeable, his cheese grater voice and always whining. What happened to the kid who was crying in the first trailer?

[@werce9120]

Honestly it would probably be a cool twist if Greg was actually a robot, with the only reason why vanny and co wanted to capture him was because he was a prototype "perfect" android. Him leaving from his containment would be jepardizing to the ethics of machines and humans or something like that.

[@Centuriez]

Well, Gregory is around the age of 11 - 14..

[@zachwhitaker.]

just make him mute god damn it

[@thefruityking6722]

The whole "Gregory not reacting to anything" really gets to me. This is a child who is experiencing crazy events that shouldn't be happening in a children's entertainment place, yet very rarely does he ever questions things or even ask questions. He goes down to the basement and sees a giant blob of wires and animatronic parts that is moving, not a single word.

[@ghostdragon5735]

Probably because it’s implied that he’s a robot therefore he wouldn’t react

[@bluredstoneiii5594]

gregory is a robot

[@Draggobuttboi]

Gregory is a noble gas

[@keenankersh7944]

@@Draggobuttboi yes

[@agentray]

Well apparently game theory says that Gregory is some type of robot, but the thing is I don't want to have to listen to game theory everytime

[@MistaBrando]

I’m still confused about how a game with a mystery plotline about child abduction/murder became a franchise seen for little kids. Like the overwhelming amount of children that love FNAF is staggering, seeing FNAF shirts on shelves right next to Paw Patrol and Minecraft boggles my mind.

[@ijustlikebees]

I know! Its so strange! Can you imagine if silent Hill or any other horror game was heavily marketed to kids like this?

[@MistaBrando]

@@ijustlikebees I think kids mostly like the designs of the animatronics and the merch associated with it, like when FNAF 1 was out one of my little cousins at the time was obsessed with their designs and the Game Theory stuff but couldn’t play the game on his iPad since it scared him 😂

[@ijustlikebees]

@@MistaBrando wild

[@ijustlikebees]

@The Real Princess Daddy bro....please go outside,touch some grass,breathe fresh air,talk to real people.

[@MistaBrando]

@@ijustlikebees I just report bots like that, they just spam this stuff across people like Cr1tikal and SOG’s vids

[@rhinogamer1076]

I think a big reason in why the game isn’t scary is that whenever an animatronic sees you, it plays a sound effect, letting you know that it sees you. It would’ve been way scarier if that sound effect didn’t exist and you just heard footsteps getting closer and closer.

[@sirfazbear4993]

I think because of the apparent family horror approach, and they even cut out voice lines that include blood😒 And Vanny doesn't have her knife

[@clownrat5759]

Imagine how scary it’d be if you got seen without realizing and all you heard was loud metallic stomping lmfao

[@spongebobsquarepants2981]

@@clownrat5759 nah bruh don't even put that in my head😭

[@burgerkingfries4941]

That isn't just it. The colourful neon environment, and the colourful shiny characters make it hard to feel scared. To the game's credit, the daycare was a solid sequence. It was dark, the moon was fairly creepy, and you have to navigate a narrow space. Unfortunately, this part is over too quickly, and your objective is very straightforward. You can also just increase your brightness and see the entire room clearly, removing the challenge of navigating the dark narrow space.

[@carmandirda]

​@@burgerkingfries4941While I agree with the sentiment, the colorful atmosphere does not NEED to be a handicap. If a lion charges me in a field full of tulips, I'm still being charged by a lion. The game just goes out of its way to desensitize you to scares with the security bots grabbing you constantly and the endless sound cues. If you could be snuck up on or properly stalked, you'd still be scared.

[@YTSunnys]

This has easily been one the most tedious game I ever played. I stayed up till 3am local time to play it at launch, but because there was no pre-download I had to download the entire thing first. I'm in a fortunate position to have good internet speeds, meaning the download only took about an hour. For the record, it was the PS5 version which is only 20ish GB instead of the 80GB the PC version takes up. I started to play it (I had the day 1 patch installed), and instantly noticed frame rate issues after the intro cutscene. To make matters worse, not even **10 minutes** in I had to reset the game due to a game breaking bug. Freddy did not spawn for me after I opened the door to his room, so I wandered around clueless for a good 15 minutes, before asking a friend who told me Freddy was supposed to spawn there. After that I progressed fairly smoothly for a good while - with minor bugs of course - until I reached Parts & Services. There was a common bug on PS5 where a button prompt did not show up to enter the charging station at the end of 2am. I spent a looooong time running around wondering what to do, until looking up a KZbin video of a PC user where I noticed it was as simple as a button prompt having to appear. I tried for many, many hours to bypass it - since a couple lucky individuals made it past without issues - but no luck. Luckily for me a friend let me play his PC version because he couldn't stand the bugs. Turns out the PC version - at the time at least - is even buggier than the PS5 game. I run on high end hardware and could not play the game on any settings higher than medium for the framerate to even be **acceptable**. Even on medium I had TONS and I mean TONS of frame drops. I *somehow* managed to beat the game on PC, after around 30(!!) hours of bugs, glitches and pure confusion. I had already noted that my PC was getting pretty hot - despite my hardware and the low settings - so I closed it frequently. But it had to happen of course, and my GPU (a 3080) nearly overheated from this damn game. Luckily I managed to notice the smoke in a timely enough manner to avoid any serious damages. I have refused to touch the PC version since. So I went back to the PS5 version, which still couldn't be completed, but hey...maybe if I tried a new save I could get lucky. And at least the PS5 doesn't overheat...right? Clearly wrong. At some point my PS5 randomly turned off with a loud noise and refused to turn on for a good 10 minutes, i.e. the signs of an overheat. I refused to touch the game until the PS5 patch, which at the very least seemed to have fixed the overheating issue, but my goodness - that should never have happened in the first place, ESPECIALLY ON 2 DIFFERENT PLATFORMS TO 1 PERSON. Those ramblings aside, yes I agree the game is super broken, even in the current patch. I've had countless times where enemies (particularly security guards) would randomly teleport in front of me. I've also died to lag spikes many times (specifically in the West Arcade on PC) due to animatronics I was running from randomly catching me during the lagspike. I also remember my save getting COMPLETELY wiped after I finished the Princess Quest minigame. Luckily I learned to keep lots of back-ups but wtf?? This was on the current patch btw. Speaking of the Princess Quest minigame... It couldn't even be played on the

[@HS-mn6jc]

Read your whole comment, and I agree 100%. The game had serious potential but it’s just bogged down by so many issues. I’d call it the Sonic 06 of the FNAF series, it’s got solid ideas and a lot of care and effort put into it, but the performance and polish is just not there, and it brings the whole experience down. The most egregious issues for me personally are the ways in which you can literally lock yourself out of content if you don’t get it at a specific time in the game. I absolutely hate when games do this as it means you’ll need to reset ALL your progress just to get 100%, and it’s a clear-cut sign of either lazy programming or rushed development. I’m sad because like you said, there IS a really great game beneath all the garbage, and I do enjoy plenty of the parts about this game, but the overall package is just too flawed for me to call it “good”.

[@MaxODrive]

Read your whole comment. I haven’t played the game myself, so reading all you said was very enlightening! Thank you for the time and effort needed to make this post.

[@akasomething]

i regret clicking show more

[@xxn0obm5nxx19]

Ok

[@tobitbiggs5892]

not to toot my own horn here but as soon as i saw sum steel wool employees say that they added so much they had to hold back on more i knew the game would be unpolished and it just sucks that it was a 2 year wait and most people cant even enjoy the "experience"

[@gigaphoton376]

My biggest problem with Security Breach is the story, it's just so incoherent. The worst offender that I don't think people talk about enough are the "disappearances". What's going on with that? Why is it only properly mentioned at the end of the game? Why do Gregory and Freddy talk about them like they were well aware of it? How are these disappearances even related to Fazbear Entertainment? I mean, it can't be because they happen in the Pizzaplex, after all, Vanny catches Gregory in an alley on one of the endings. It's also not referring to the missing children's incident, since it seems like there are even adults disappearing, so, what gives?

[@Beartic.]

THIS Also, why are the children disappearing in the first place? People say Vanny killed them. But why. Do.... Afton needs to kill kids so he can come back as springtrap? Bruh that makes no sense. Why are the children being killed???

[@Probably_JENOVA]

@@Beartic. I suppose that has to do with the whole “remnant” thing that Afton obsesses over or something. Idk.

[@maximoomega3691]

@@Probably_JENOVA that remnant stuff is supposed to make him immoral when he consumes it That's how Afton survived once he became springtrap and it's most likely that some of his remnant was left on some of the computer chips that Fazbear entertainment scanned to put in the VR game they were making that's how he became glitch trap and that's how the virus spread but they don't really bring it up much

[@zombiebeast8521]

Not to mention the endings, some of them were pretty disappointing but it’s just my opinion

[@Fractorification]

When I first saw that, I dismissed it thinking that I must’ve missed a log or boss cutscene with that info. But, when I saw everyone else’s playthrough, I realized that there really is no reference to those disappearances at all till that last moment. A lot of youtubers really wanted to make this game seem better than what it is that they just kinda accepted it was a thing the whole time, even if the game never alluded it.

[@Xploshi]

I love this game, I've had tons of fun with it and I think the horrendous bugs added to the fun I'm not a fan of how they ended up misusing Afton as a crappy boss by basically retconning Fnaf 6's satisfying ending though

[@Glide9441]

It was fun it has a few glitches and can be beat in a few minutes but is good How many subs from this comment?

[@Skadoodly_Dave]

I agree completely this game is fun but Afton is just annoying now

[@dans780]

I wished that they used glitch trap instead bc I’m pretty sure he’s just a remnant of Afton and not literally afton. Plus I really likes glitch trap in help wanted.

[@yeethittter1285]

@@dans780 Same he has such a simple but good design and a creepy energy so why sleep on it

[@freshmaggot]

It’s not a retcon. Security breach afton is his corpse with the spirit of glitchtrap (at least that’s the most logical explanation)

[@theguywhoasked8709]

I especially hate the save features, I think instead of having the little save tablets there should be an option to save in the menu or on the faz watch like how every other game lets you save, and not letting us save after 6AM was the worst decision in my opinion. The game isn't that hard but with the bugs and other issues having to get sent all the way back is a real pain.

[@mayonnaise3959]

Yeah no that would just completely break the game

[@haneulnara9960]

@@mayonnaise3959 the fact that the game’s difficulty relies on the dumb saving mechanics and not the actual mechanics and enemies posing a challenge shows that it’s a pretty poorly designed system.

[@AnimationJ]

They should of made it so that after 6 AM you have to use the helpy tablets

[@harpot678]

It was a game design decision made to make you think every decision you made had consequence, that you couldn't just reload the last 10 secs of gameplay, that you needed to be careful navigating the Pizzaplex. The decision itself isn't a bad one in a game design perspective, but outside factors such as jank that ends up killing you makes this decision extremely punishing, more than intended.

[@honestmistake8167]

FNAF Security Breach was being kind of targeted to younger audiences, while also trying to appeal slightly to the smaller adult demographic. They removed things like "blood" from the games dialogue and even removed Vanny's knife from her design altogether. I feel like they should have done the entire focus on one single ending, building up to a final boss, and keeping the non-child friendly stuff out, because, this is a horror game franchise. It is meant to be scary, but the bright and colorful Pizzaplex really isn't. The jumpscares also don't help, as they seem too toned back from earlier games in the franchise. That's really all I have to say

[@mayonnaise3959]

The franchise turned from being about child murder to being a fucking pbs kids show

[@bigsmoke8556]

God I hate children

[@elgatogrande561]

@@bigsmoke8556 Mr. Afton, is that you?

[@pug8714]

Let's not forget how the FNAF games have had blood in them, and kids play them

[@Sanakudou]

If I recall correctly the developers didn’t want those changes to happen but were forced into it via the contract for their PlayStation release, to avoid making the game rating too high which could have been an issue with sale numbers. Even tho the use of the word Blood or a Bunny with a knife (that you wouldn’t ever see used) isn’t in anyway “too much” for a kids horror game, there’d almost certainly be parents out there who don’t judge each game individually and just flat out ban their kids from playing M rated games. In some places around the world (not sure about America) game stores aren’t legally allowed to sell M15+ games to kids who can’t prove they’re T least 15yr old, so I understand why the rating was an issue if they wanted to make a profit, it’s just whoever is behind determining what is PG or M is being way too precious in how they determined whether a game is suitable for kids or not.

[@YelloWool]

I watched Markiplier’s playthrough, and if I’m honest, all the bugs made it much more entertaining. There were a few times he died to invisible Animatronics, and lost so much progress. It was hilarious! 😂

[@leerapt1724]

It's fun to watch but definitely not fun to play

[@ArriVerse]

@@leerapt1724 True

[@Harmonica821]

I had more pity for him in those last few episodes than I had for Dawko trying 50/20 mode.

[@YourFavRoadhog]

It maybe fun to watch.. but when you play and spend hours without a save and you die to a enemy that you can't even see, well.. that's horrible game Design

[@nickrustyson8124]

@@YourFavRoadhog Granted that's more on you for not saving, (Unless you're talking about the ending bit)

[@aussieboy4279]

I don’t understand people get incredibly angry at game delays. Game delays are almost nothing but good and the negative attention SB got from being delayed twice makes me really sad as I think this game should’ve been delayed again. It needed more time and polish and had so much potential to be better than it is. I actually think the game is quite fun despite its bugs and problems but yeah it could’ve been better

[@teejayburger2136]

Personally I think what game companies should do, in the event of multiple delays is create a ‘blooper real’ of a collection of bugs and stuff. Make people understand that they do not want to play the game in this state

[@benjamincollins4608]

@@teejayburger2136 that could be helpful and pretty funny imagine if at E3 Game company’s just revealed bugs

[@snidermcwood6433]

I think the problem is just companies feeling the need to announce games several years in advance when it's at a concept state and promise to deliver it in a short span of time that is obviously unrealistic and then delay it. Sure they shouldn't release an unfinished game and that's also probably the fault of the investors, but companies shouldn't throw out dates like that and wonder why people are upset when it actually takes one more year to be released after several delays

[@VenomQuill]

@@teejayburger2136 I can imagine "T-pose Freddy" and "dodging Roxy by standing on a crate" would be great in that sort of blooper reel.

[@sadchiefanakin1496]

I'm fine with game delays, though if it still comes out as a buggy mess it just makes me wonder why

[@lightworthy]

a trap many writers will do when revising and editing a story they’ve worked on for a long time is remove crucial plot points thinking they’re unnecessary or redundant (or an editor will) and not know the plot point is missing because they’re working with the knowledge of how the story has progressed. THATS a major problem of security breach, when “trimming the cake” they forgot that the players will be coming to it with ZERO knowledge of the years of work and storyboarding and character development they had while making the game, and clearly forgot to put it back. they cut the actual cake off and only left the frosting. fnaf has alway been vague, but security breach isn’t vague, it’s fully expects you to understand cutscenes and story beats and especially ENDINGS that have no context left in the actual game. the context was left on the cutting room floor and no one in development realized because they were working with a shared common sense basis that the player will never have

[@ARCHIVED9610]

honestly all that makes sense to me is music man and DJMM, very cool.

[@GDroidX]

@@ARCHIVED9610 Imagine There Was A Part In The Game Where He Brainwashed You With His Music Or Something.

[@lightworthy]

@Boa-Noah exactly!! fnaf has always been vague for lack of a better word here, but that’s 100% not what security breach is. fnaf’s vagueness was purposeful and tasteful enough to have more or less the right amount of clues and hints and teases to create an idea of what’s happening piece by piece. security breach is just….. disjointed pieces that don’t even look like they’d EVER fit in the same puzzle as the rest of the story. it’s really sad to see honestly, i was so excited for what this game could’ve been based on trailers

[@JinRupeeland]

"I'm sick of excusing mediocrity." THANK YOU.

[@mrbusinesss1]

I honestly think they should’ve delayed it again, maybe for another 6-12 months. Some people hate it when games get delayed, but I’d rather have a better game that lives up to its potential later than a broken disappointing game forever

[@mrbusinesss1]

FNAF:SB isn’t that bad and is actually super fun despite it’s bugs (imo) but I know it could’ve been SO much better with a few tweaks when it came to lore, endings, jumpscares and of course bugs and glitches

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

They needed More people

[@mrbusinesss1]

@@ThiccFurryBoi34 That’s 100% true

[@mathews2774]

Yeah the thing is that the same thing that happened to Cyberpunk probably happened to this game. The studio just ran out of money and had to start racking in income with this new game or they would go under.

[@PlayerZeroStart]

But like Mark said, if they delayed the game again, it would have just gotten even more unweildly and probably would have come out in an even more broken state. The problem really just comes down to that they need to get better at managing their resources, realizing they're not a AAA game company and figuring out what their limits are. Hopefully this game will act as a lesson learned by Steel Wool.

[@erikm8373]

I think it's a little annoying how the main enemy was just the staff bots. It was an inevitable consequence of having a massive environment, and only three animatronics chasing you. I do think the idea of a "support" enemy that can't kill you by itself is interesting, but I actually would've given that role to Vanny. It would play into the idea that she's toying with you if she never actually tried to kill you herself, but would still follow you around, taunting you and pointing you out to the other animatronics, maybe even being able to control staff bots (which in my design, would be otherwise passive and less numerous) and turn them violent On top of this there should really just be more active threats throughout the game. Maybe bring in that big tangle of wires and animatronics earlier than the actual final mission. Maybe there's a mission early in the game that brings you into some kind of "History of Fazbear" attraction, and while you're in there, Vanny shows up and lets out a bunch of older animatronics from past games, that roam around for the rest of the game Just spitballing ideas because I really find it annoying that the staff bots are the most frequent threat during a large part of the game

[@laudj_art]

Moondrop should appear more in more locations in the game, i mean, in the teaser trailer he is in the kitchen, there's a lot of DARK areas, and his mechanic is to appear only in the dark, but in the final game he just appears in very specific moments...

[@horseeatsdogfood5721]

@The Real Princess Daddy what? What does that have to do with anything?

[@horseeatsdogfood5721]

@Joshua_Rampage Oh yeah, that makes sense, still don't understand why it's talking about Markiplier under this vid

[@TheRebeloftheRebellion]

@The Real Princess Daddy Five Nights at McJuggerNuggets

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

It’s basically just like walking back to the boss after dying in dark souls

[@mythmage8231]

2 problems with the "Vanny is inspired by Afton" idea: 1. Tape Girl already confirmed that the games weren't fabrications, but rather, an "elaborate cover-up", so there's not that much mystery 2. Apparently, Steele Wool heavily censored the final production, with changed scenes and the removal of Vanny's knife from her "Obey" promotional poster

[@mayonnaise3959]

It’s really sad considering what this game was originally meant to be from the teasers

[@niko5008]

@@mayonnaise3959 it sounded so cool, more scary but also some interesting dialogue for the lore... none happened

[@mayonnaise3959]

@@niko5008 it looks like it was like a dead space mind fuck

[@allisonhiltunen3577]

watching the interview of steel wool done by dawko is so interesting. the devs seem really proud of the final product, and even admitted certain parts od the game would be incredibly infuriating to complete. it feels like sonic boom with how many game breaking bugs there are, how unoptimized the files are, how poor the frame rate is, and overall just how completely broken the mechanics were upon release. they also were both too ambitious with their gameplay and environments.

[@e1iteyoshi998]

Except the only difference between Sonic Boom and FNAF Security Breach is that Sega didn't give a shit about the game's product or quality and ended up rushing it just for it to meet a deadline. Steel Wool obviously cares about Security Breach but the scope of the project was just too big for their own good considering that this was a huge step-up for them as an indie game company. Coupled with rabid fan demand and the drama forcing Scott to retire added more pressure for them to try and succeed.

[@mooddood4570]

They're Idiots

[@clownrat5759]

@@e1iteyoshi998 I don’t know if that’s entirely true. They pushed back and pushed back and pushed back because of deadlines and poor time management, their coding is messy, and they even censored 99.9% of the entire lore aspect of the game to meet a kid-friendly rating instead for PlayStation.

[@spoopa7733]

Except that Sonic Boom's development wasn't screwed over because of how ambitious it was, it was screwed over by SEGA making Big Red Button make the game playable on Wii U

[@Sigismund697]

@@spoopa7733 while using an engine that wasn't supported by it, don't forget that important detail That the game even boots is a miracle

[@beautifulmanstan8840]

"I felt like I was only scratching the surface" Yeah. It's like... This isn't security breach. This is a demo for the game that they accidentally put endings into.

[@jzombie1744]

The fact that Cyberpunk got less bad feedback from this is surprising

[@CKVanilla]

its a prototype with finished models

[@Medikars]

I fell like Vanny was marketed as a major aspect of the game, with the Therapy Logs and promotional material, only to appear a handful of times.

[@yurifairy2969]

She shouldn't have been promoted so much. Clearly they were going for a conniving, secretive, behind-the-scenes type character in the actual game. The trailers made i it look like she was the main chaser.

[@REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS]

There was gonna be a vanny meter so that if you didn't move along with the story she would spawn

[@sltrskid]

@@REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS but they scrapped it and left it in the debug menu :(

[@thomasbirchall7342]

@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 fatherless behaviour

[@BlazingRoman]

@@thomasbirchall7342 ignore the weening

[@SketchUT]

For the autosave thing, they also could’ve had a separate autosave-only slot like other games have. Some spots do autosave so it’s not like they have to add in a whole new function that didn’t exist at all before

[@aresrivera9744]

I don’t think the game needs any more auto saves since it already has them. Like if you don’t save after a hard part then that’s kind of your fault. That’s literally the number one rule of any RPG or game in general. You save the game so you don’t go through it again . Saying that everything must have an auto save is kind of just being lazy and pampered. Like you’re not playing a souls game where there are only auto saves

[@tims.1615]

​@@aresrivera9744you can technically manual save in Souls games by saving & quitting

[@rooenart1346]

I think a good measure of how much the game failed yet also succeeded is the fact most of the FNAF community came running back and new fans popped up all over the place but not for the game itself but strictly the characters. People making whole worlds an stories and AU's with their own OCS because the world and characters they made are so fun but the game just didn't do anything with them so the fans took over.

[@Imperials3nate]

Ironically a better reaction to a failure than the Star Wars fans did with the sequels.

[@lawsonhovind7335]

I feel like they could have done so much more with the Daycare Attendant. He's such a cool character, but he was kinda just there for one segment and existed as a hazard, and that was it. So many questions, like: * If it was nighttime, why was Sun hyped about a slumber party? Isn't that Moon's deal? Why does Moon exist if Sun can handle the nighttime activities? * Why are the emergency power switches in a children's play area? * Why was Moon evil? * Why does Sun toss a child into the unknown for breaking a rule? Surely there must be a time out where bad kids go, instead of being tossed out into the Pizzaplex * How does the switch from Sun to Moon happen? It's vague and doesn't make a lot of sense, and I feel like showing that could really help anchor the character It's not even that hard to find an answer to all of these questions. Reworking how you interact with Sun and Moon can greatly change how he works as a character. Let's say Moon is going a little nuts due to Afton's influence (this would change Moon's red eyes to purple). It makes sense then that Sun is up at night, and handling the activities. It also makes sense why he's so insistent to keep the lights on. Perhaps there could be a bit of dialouge: Gregory: "Wait, I thought it was nighttime? Isn't Moon supposed to be out?" Sun: "Moon is... err... under the weather. So let's keep the lights on! On. ON." Sun allows you to explore much more of the daycare, and will only drag you back once you near the security desk, warning about how it could get them in trouble. However, there would be much more fun activities to do with Sun, like drawing and storytelling. Offering to tell a story to Sun, Gregory makes up a story about a kid lost in the Pizzaplex, and Sun is quick to see through these thin lies. Then, you get two allies in your quest to escape, Freddy and Sun. Sun could perhaps keep you safe, blocking a lethal jumpscare and letting you continue the game while he wrestles with whatever came to harm you (this would not apply to certain enemies like Vanny). But, let's say you're not a fan of Sun, and want to defy him. You can knock over the stack of toys, turn off the lights, and see Sun transform as usual. This time, it's a simple change of the face spinning into a new color and the spikes slipping away and replaced by a rod that pops out a hat (the hat is connected to Moon's head, which is why it doesn't fall off when he spins it). The clothes have already changed in the dark, as the pattern changes depending on the amount of light. This is a unique way of doing it, and certainly believable in the world of FNAF. We've got a dress that appears black/blue to some and white/yellow to others, so in a world of living animatronics possessed with children's souls, a pattern changing with light fits right in. Regardless, now you're chased by Moon, being chased out of the Daycare and perhaps into some other room where the switches are. Once you've turned the lights back on, Sun will catch you and put you into time out, where "you're going to sit until you've thought about what you've done!". Then, you wait to be busted out by Freddy, and upon escaping, Sun will ban you from the daycare, since you don't want to stick around anyways. This fits more in line with his character, while still providing a way out of the daycare. These two options will also change how the game is played. For 30-60 minutes after the lights come back on, Sun will make their way back to the daycare. If you decided to abandon Sun and you come across him, he'll send out a security alert, warning nearby enemies to your position. Just these small bits really help flesh out one of the coolest and most creative characters in this game

[@marmyt3]

that is actually such a cool idea! man now i wish that was actually in the game

[@pedriozie4067]

Woah this is actually really cool I loved the way you made the sun a way better character in just a few lines of dialogue and introduced an amazing mechanic at the same time. I loved this idea

[@epsilondelta2967]

This is a huge improvement

[@Triple3Trey]

Yeah definitely could have done much more with Sundrop and Moondrop and had more moments like the daycare section

[@barbwirebrat]

what jarred me even more is that there were power generators in the play structures

[@loganharris7801]

Y'know, I think it would be a lot cooler if the animatronics could "hear" you. It would remove the need for security bots and would allow creativity in strategies. For example, you might find Chica in her room while you're trying to get the party pass, and to lure her out, you make a noise to cause her to leave and investigate.

[@VenomQuill]

You mean the basis for half of Roxy's character? She has great hearing, especially after being blinded. I mean, you breathe wrong and she's on you like bees on honey. Besides, they already have a distraction mechanic, albeit one that you can't do on the fly.

[@barbedblinga421]

I feel like that just make people complain and make it more tedious to them

[@jmurray1110]

Particularly with roxie when she loses her eyes the game just tells her your location at times

[@VenomQuill]

@@jmurray1110 Her constant sobbing gives her away. ;-;

[@funnyman8161]

@@barbedblinga421 the five million security bots with broken ai grabbing you is already tedious

[@cblake4111]

My personal thoughts on my idea for the game: The game would begin with Gregory arriving at the Pizzaplex, with a brief intro showing the development of the Pizzaplex and the robots, and the mention of the mysterious disappearances. Gregory would watch the show as Freddy crashes upon spotting him. While Freddy recovers in his room, Gregory sneaks around as security guard Vanessa realizes that he is not registered. Finding Freddy's room, he meets Freddy, who offers to help him escape, though when they get past Vanessa in the maintenance tunnels, they arrive at the front gate as it closes. The other animatronics come out and meet Gregory, and they each play with Gregory as they show their respective areas, with Gregory solving a changing maze controlled by Chica, playing a match of mini-golf against Monty, and participating in an actual race with Roxy on the completed raceway. During their time together, while they are friendly, small bits of their character flaws slip out as the virus begins to affect them, such as Gregory catching Chica gorging herself after the maze and ashamedly hiding it, Monty snapping briefly after the match, and Roxy being a bit prickish to Gregory following the race, with the latter two apologizing afterwards. Vanessa then finds Gregory, irritated while also worried and seemingly nervous for some reason. Freddy and the others manage to convince Vanessa that he'll be safe with them; while nervous, Vanessa is assured what with the presence of the other four able to protect him. They decide to set up a show just for Gregory, but just as they start, the three then come under the effects of the virus, activating the previously disabled security mode (mentioned later by Vanessa); Vanessa briefly spots a figure in a warped humanoid mask and coat watching from afar. While Freddy holds off the others while taking some mild damage, he tells Vanessa to hide him in the Daycare while she looks for the figure, where Gregory meets Sun; the playful Sun insists that the lights remain on no matter what. When the figure appears briefly and the lights are disabled, Sun begins to transform into Moon, telling Gregory to find the emergency generators to reset the Daycare power before turning. Gregory then avoids Moon (who fears Gregory's flashlight) as he traverses the jungle gym while starting the generators, using his flashlight to hold Moon back. When the lights are restored, Sun removes Gregory from the Daycare for his own safety, revealing his fearful knowledge of his other half. When Gregory reveals what is happening with the other robots, he tells Gregory that he can hide in the main security station overlooking the main hall, but must get a pass from a nearby security station to access it; he also reveals that most of the other bots have a weakness to bright lights as well, and mentions that he can use either a Fazcam or a Fazblaster to defend himself. After taking a shortcut through the tunnels, Gregory narrowly evades the three while he finds the office and holds them off while Vanessa works to remove the lockdown. Finding and entering the main security station, the figure then appears on the screens, and she seemingly sounds an alarm that alerts the bots to his presence. The animatronics attempt to break in, and Freddy establishes contact with Gregory, telling him to use the electric shock systems to keep them back from the doors while searching for Freddy on the monitors and opening several doors on a path leading to the room beneath the station. Freddy saves Gregory, and the two decide to head to the Parts and Service area to repair his damage. Gregory briefly heads to the control booth for the stage to activate the stage lift, with them both heading down to Parts and Service. However, as the power briefly dips, Moon appears and attacks, taking Freddy to the repair station. Separated, Gregory finds the entrance to Parts and Service, but he requires another security pass. Vanessa tells him that a pass would likely be in the endoskeleton development area, and Gregory enters to find it. However, the seemingly docile endos then activate on their own, and Gregory uses his flashlight to keep them at bay until he escapes.

[@jimmyoakmeister]

I feel like the first delay should've been "Delayed until further notice." By giving release dates, you're creating expectations. Also, yeah, this game is so lacking in terms of explanation. I get that you can't give all the information, players need to search for info and draw their own conclusions, but to give us next-to-nothing it becomes frustrating. It's probably why MatPat just decided to go "Right, Greg's a robot." with very little evidence to go on, beyond a couple of weird lines in-game. If we had a more information and more interactions between characters (not just Greg and Fred, but everyone else as well), we may've been able to better understand what's going on here. Honestly? I'm just disappointed we don't get to restore any of the main animatronics, but we get to restore DJMM because... reasons? I would've loved to have seen Roxanne, Montgomery, and Chica just act like how they should, not like killer robots that this series always puts out. We finally get a chance to see the animatronics as how they usually are and we get... Freddy being good and that's it?

[@kayosplash]

I simply wish companies would stop promising unrealistic release dates. It causes pressure and rushed results (as we can see with this game lol). I also wish the fans/community would stop accepting half assed work. Knowing what this game could have been is disappointing. I loved the environment, i loved the design, the story was great at the start, but towards the end it was a mess and too open ended with little to no guidance. This game still has potential and I hope they see it through.

[@Tabth3778]

agreed

[@shut7353]

god agree with the second part so much. steel wool could of released the shittiest game ever and it would still have overwhelmingly positive steam reviews just because its part of fnaf. people get so excited when a new game is released and overlook all the problems with it, its irritating.

[@rightnut6270]

I remember seeing the first Twitter post announcing this game. It had details about switching between Gregory and Vanessa, Vanny being a constant threat you have to avoid, and using Freddy to combat Vanny. How much of that made it in? None

[@ellag3265]

Honestly, would have loved to see more of Vanny. She barely even appears, and she struck me as a really cool and threatening villain.

[@lobster6736]

Ok, imagine security breach, now imagine resident evil 3's nemesis. Now change nemesis for vanny, and now change resident evil 3 for security breach, does that sound good? Yes it does.

[@mrchoochooguy4045]

Vanny was missing due to bugs

[@boringmantis6489]

@@mrchoochooguy4045 Doesn't excuse it

[@TorLes_]

Can you link the tweet? I dont remember that

[@SamAmbridge]

There was multiple times in this video where internally I was like 'oh the answer to that is because....' but remembered it's secret lore. The basic game without all the tiniest lore details up to date doesn't make any sense. The experience between ppl casually play in the game for fun and ppl who play for lore is a massive gap which is a shame. That's the exact problem I have with MCU, particularly as a comics fan. There shouldn't be homework for a price of art you want to enjoy.

[@megafudge280]

The place itself feels way too big. If you need to rely on security bots to always summon the real threat to the room the players in, then you should think about down sizing. The animatronics could never find you without the security bots in this giant mall.

[@shadow759]

I highly agree with 8:45 I been following this story because it was interesting to a point but then you get stuff like "Wait this was the issue? Since when?!" happens. I understand the whole link to another game or book whatever, but it's annoying when stuff just comes and feels like they forgot to tell it or try to hid it saying "it's a mystery see how it ties in! Ooooo" Many of the things in this game hopes you just overthink it and call it a day.

[@endergamer4545]

I mean yeah not wrong there to be honest at this point with the story and where it at now I rather forget about the story and just try to enjoy the games lol

[@justice8718]

It's easier to understand this game than the previous entrees that aren't fnaf1.

[@modmaker7617]

I didn't expect to see you here

[@shadow759]

@@endergamer4545 That's the issue with most games that try toe have a big lore like this. lol But yeah I hear you on that on just wanting to simply enjoy a game.

[@ToastyBoiChannel]

Didn’t except to see you here, I use to watch your videos all the time.

[@Scendence_]

The game seriously needs to get the "No Man's Sky Treatment", where they systematically patch and fix it over the course of 3-12 months. It wouldn't hurt to add DLC expansions to it as well, where they could add in the parts of the story they had to trim before release. But that probably won't happen and in a year or two we'll get a trailer for a new game.

[@timjor7731]

Well, they’ve already confirmed DLC, and they are patching it, so you’re in luck I spose.

[@The_KingDoge]

The dlc should be free...

[@coolboss999]

@@The_KingDoge It is going to be free... Who told him it won't?

[@Mqstodon]

@@The_KingDoge why lmao?

[@mr.bisness7617]

@@Mqstodon because they made people pay money for a unfinished game.

[@Tippex_Official]

I remember seeing xploshi (a relatively popular fake media horror channel) tweet about how one of the main elements of the prior games, the horror from these decommissioned and broken animatronics, being lost in security breach for basically all of the game due to them being so clean and modern in design, only becoming dilapidated at basically the very end of the game.

[@tylern6420]

Also they walk too smoothly

[@Thenameless1]

1:53 I'm mildly pissed you cut Kip off because the second I saw where things were starting I was chanting: "SAY THE LINE, SAY THE LINE."

[@404TVfr]

Cope

[@ironmask8860]

Ikr, I was just chanting “Come on Mark, say the line” and then it just cut off abruptly like that. 😢

[@Cybershell13]

holy crap freaking Fraddy Frazbear said amogus LOL

[@afsilver07]

Have you ever heard of Fortnite, Gregory?

[@XrosProductionsKc]

Cybershell

[@unknownwill4th549]

@@afsilver07 gregory, were stuck in this loop, unless the io looses control of the zero point, we can't escape.

[@AverageUsernames]

@@unknownwill4th549 ".Io was a ai-based soul-purpose to eliminate any loneliness among servers, so the player think they're the gamer." - Col. Idk from escape from new york

[@gungun5845]

HI CYBERSHELL!!

[@PhirePhlame]

I think the single biggest sentiment I've seen across the fanbase is the wish that there was a way to actually fix whatever's going on with the other bots without having to destroy them (especially given that the common belief, based on some context, is that they've been tampered with).

[@VenomQuill]

I felt so bad about breaking Roxy. ;-;

[@felixleidig8307]

@@VenomQuill not only you

[@an_0_mal1ce6]

@@VenomQuill I feel worse for Chica, she can't even speak. And I can only imagine the things she has to say..

[@bemiatto67]

It felt really strange that they never really explore a conflict between Gregory and Freddy when he's asking how exactly Gregory got these upgrades when he learns they're from his friends

[@an_0_mal1ce6]

@@bemiatto67 Yeah, I really thought tehy might be setting something up with that

[@ze_doodles1885]

Gregory is the complete opposite of me as a child. I asked a question about every five seconds. So much that my mom said if I was ever kidnapped they would bring me back bc I asked too many. An example, "why are there so many trees?"

[@tonybippitykaye]

I remember watching Markiplier play through the final segment and holy crap, how could they possibly think that was a good idea? Its probably the most infuriating non save area I’ve ever seen in a game! It’s one thing if the segment isn’t that long, but it can literally take HOURS to complete the final stretch and to punish players like that who want the true ending and get caught by dumb luck and bugs isn’t challenging, it’s incompetent and lazy. Overall, they could’ve done so much more with this game, but it just fell flat on its face, especially in the end.

[@IngridBlanck]

My biggest complaint is the endings. Some incredibly vague, some leading nowhere, and the true one that was supposed to be the big climatic moment was rushed to a 15 second cutscene?? The final boss battle was a struggle to anyone who played it blindly for the first time, how do you not give instructions with relevant information to fight the animatronics (yes I'm talking about the problem with fighting Roxy, Freddy literally says "hide", players found out after trial and error that they had to use the voice box too)? Also I hate that they're in comic style. All these delays to not even properly animate the endings. Wow. I don't like being that critical but come on, if you're gonna tease us with something great, give us a great game.

[@cloud99955]

Theres a slc coming

[@mesaplayer9636]

@@cloud99955 and? Most of the problems ppl have should not have been in the game when it was released.

[@vikinggamer7727]

Don't expect every game to be perfect or great, this isn't heaven.

[@meeleeman6311]

I know how u feel as a cod zombies fan...

[@Mqstodon]

Comic book animation isn't inherently worse than full animation, that's such a stupid take

[@NONOOBZ4EVR]

Vanessa, a crazed and devout believer in the Afton murders, takes a nightguard shift after hearing stories of previous nightguards. She discovers a kid is sneaking around after hours in the pizzaplex, and hastily conjures up a costume from scrap animatronic parts littered behind the scenes in the pizzaplex. Eventually, she cuts all power, which sends the pizzaplex into darkness, a few hours after Greggory is accustomed to it being bright and having relaxing jazz playing in the background. This cut in power also disables freddy (maybe you can have a gag saying how modern tech requires a wifi signal or something). With no light, no music, and a limited flashlight charge, Greggory must head across the entire pizzaplex to restore power. His only pursuer? A lunatic in a rabbit costume, as human as he is, yet looking like a mangled amalgamation of disused animatronics. This brings back the power concept, and with little to no audio, the game will be as terrifying as ever as you make your way without knowing whether you are truly safe.

[@seineevee]

I love this concept

[@crystalcat1002]

Dude, very cool!

[@fake_emperor365]

On the whole no autosave thing, I think it'd be very good to do it like how Breath of the Wild did it, with both a manual save and autosave enabled and being able to choose which save you start from when loading the game

[@earthfireinfinity]

i reckon that the lack of autosaves might be inspired by the save mechanic from alien isolation, where you save at stations that are 10-20 minutes apart. this helps create tension surrounding the xenomporh, to ensure that the game stays scary all the way through. The difference between that and Security Breach it seems, is that while at the end of the game Alien Isolation largely allows the player to explore all of Sevastopol, the main game itself is actually very linear, and saves are always there when you need them. Also the game's major threat was created in a way where you arent killed because of a stupid bug so that probably helps

[@mayonnaise3959]

Yeah that was a issue in alien isolation because of how tedious it got at some point and that game even auto saves after every major section a better system would’ve been like the evil within 2 where it is similar to alien isolation but auto saves are more frequent and the game doesn’t break every 12 seconds

[@tankspank4358]

This game feels legitimately unfinished, the animatronics deteriorating over the night as if they've been left abandoned days suggests that either this game went through massive rewrites very late in development or tons had to be cut

[@sickoslater]

There's a few pieces of evidence, mostly circumstantial, that there was originally supposed to be 5 nights. E.g. the 4 animatronics, one "works with you" per night, before you all team up to defeat Vanny.

[@ahrngel]

The ending was so anticlimactic combined with the fact that we barely see Vanny and Springtrap is shoved in for no reason *yet again* I thought Glitchtrap was supposed to be the main antagonist that strings along Vanny to do his bidding. This game could have been much better than what we got, I hope we get DLC to answer all the unfinished questions and to actually establish the characters in the first place.

[@karaluchyiworsuchy]

its like a Suicide squad syndrome. so much material, they had to cut off like 50%. so the rest is just a mess

[@silverscorpio24]

The game should've been split into two separate parts: Story Mode and Explorer Mode. Story Mode is of course the cohesive story played through in a more linear fashion with Autosaves and ONE ending. Explorer Mode would be the player simply exploring the Pizzaplex, engaging with the animatronics, and playing minigames related to Scott's previous work and extra lore bits.

[@jzombie1744]

And a point for collectibles, like have a room where Gregory goes too where he can put all the stuff he collects in it, so at least you have reason to collect them

[@greybunnie2003]

I think the way to fix this game is that they should have just released it in chapters like Bendy and the Ink Machine. The devs wanted to do a lot of stuff, and it was impossible to cram it all into just one game. Releasing it in chapters would have given them more time to work on each segment, and it would definitely help with the pacing. The story would be a lot more fleshed out, and we would get to see better portrayals of the characters, since the devs aren't speed running their introductions and deaths. Sure, some people would be unhappy with the game being split up into parts, but at least those parts would be bug tested and enjoyable to play. Plus I think it would kind of fit the short play style that FNaF is known for. It would probably run better too, because there's less stuff to render in. Edit: I know the devs wanted to make the game non-linear, and have the player be able to free roam around the whole mall and do things at their own pace, and having a chapters based game would make it so the game had to be linear. But honestly, having a truly non-linear story just doesn't work for this game, as he explained in the video. I think being able to explore certain sections of the mall instead of the whole thing would also prevent players from getting lost so easily, since for the most part, they would only be able to explore areas that were important to progress the game in that specific chapter. Plus it's not like you can actually explore the entire mall from the beginning in the game that we did get. You have to collect passes that allow you to access certain rooms, meaning you're locked out of them until you need to go in there anyway. There's just a lot of empty space to wander around in until the game makes you go in there for 5 second to retrieve some random trinket that could have honestly been anywhere on the map and it wouldn't make a difference.

[@oliviahughes3158]

The whole thing with the endoskeletons who only chase you when your back is turned is one of the best parts of the game. It's also ripped straight from TJOC

[@meowntown69]

And they ripped it from Doctor Who

[@BEZERKSTUDIOS718]

Felt more like that one sequence from Little nightmares 2

[@maritofuentes4690]

It's a common horror trope The creature only moves when you don't look at it You could argue that TJOC Ripped it from the SCP game

[@cajunking5987]

Doctor who

[@etam8099]

@@maritofuentes4690 and SCP ripped it from DW

[@voin5371]

Honestly my biggest issue with the game is the pacing, the starting of the game feels great story wise but half way through it just begins to suddenly go peddle to the metal in plot progression with the endings being a mixed take of time. Honestly I feel that they had to cut out a lot of content simply because they didn't have enough time or manpower to achieve their goals, it's a shame but for me, I still enjoyed the game at least.

[@gereniccc4487]

Honestly, I'm ok with inconsistent pacing if it suits the story.

[@dumbsville]

This video really makes me want to play Alien: Isolation. Thank you, Mark!!!

[@IcyDiamond]

Are you ever gonna do a Hazbin Hotel review?

[@dumbsville]

@@IcyDiamond nope

[@Glide9441]

@@dumbsville lmao

[@blake2521]

Woah look it’s the lego guy

[@Numbuh_W.]

Hi Lego Jesus

[@zoltanvamosi4267]

I would say that Security Breach was something completely different about 6-5 months before release. The current version is quite imperessive compared to the other games but it feels like a very cut down version of something that was meant to be more. Judging from the trailers and such the story was meant to be quite more of an element and was waaay different beforehand. I do not know what happened at Steel Wool to end up with what we did but my guess they either want to keep those elements for future projects or decided this is better. Who knows, but the game is pretty decent in my opinion.

[@Ize_OnThePrize]

"Ah. That wall just moved." *Yes Gregory, that is how a door works.*

[@mayonnaise3959]

Gregory has the worst lines in gaming up there with Ethan from re8

[@ComicalRealm]

"This game may not be the scariest ever, but it has its moments. Every environment is completely enjoyable, and it’s very different from the other FNAF games. Aside from the bugs (they’re features!) it works for what it is." - Freddy Fazbear

[@chillonil3993]

MatPat won't be happy with this.

[@nobody_is_here3646]

Are you a bot or am I dumb? I saw this comment before...

[@Lessembarrassingman]

Do you mind

[@chillonil3993]

@@nobody_is_here3646 nah not a bot

[@paradoxisheretohelp5067]

You said this on game theory channel

[@helloeverybody.8455]

I find it odd that people still think that games being absurdly glitchy or subpar upon release only for some updates to come along and patch some stuff is okay. Would it not be much better to do the patching and playtesting before release so that the game is a properly functioning product right from the get-go and no one would be complaining about game-breaking bugs?

[@drax2021]

Welcome to modern gaming.

[@thelostmessenger]

@@drax2021 Agreed

[@ryguy8a22animations8]

All the game needs to have better function is just to be able to go back like 10 save slots so you don’t have to get soft locked by a glitch that causes you to have to go back like 4 hours in gameplay

[@Rosa-he6xb]

I agree with this, even if I get where people are coming from of glitches being funny sometimes, the developers should still patch it or at least make it where it’s rare(though maybe sometimes it can be work into the game as a function? Like I remember hearing about a glitch in Deltarune where in Spamton NEO’s boss fight the laser heart ending up *spamming* more shots at a quick speed, Toby turned it into a secret mechanic instead of getting rid of it).

[@stealthproductionz6648]

I wish they delayed to finish. But the little kids on Twitter were whining and @ them ,which I don't doubt everyday, begging them to release it. I've seen a lot of that. And then they did and they got mad that the story was bad,so much was cut out,and really buggy.

[@MatthewChenault]

When I saw this game, it was clear that they were over-ambitious. If they took the time to flesh out the mechanics or lowered the overall scope, it would have turned out much better.

[@canislunaticus]

19:56 I remember playing the game with my bf and he was pretty excited to see what boss fight we would have against Roxy and I just stared at him and gave him a painful smile as this 10 second scene was about to play out. He expected (Like I did too) that we would drive and actually have some sort of "boss fight" like we did against Monty but no it's a 10 sec scene where we don't even control gregory and Roxy gets hit in the face and that's it. The scene after that is us doing the normal run to a point without getting caught and hide along the way. On multiple occassions Roxy got stuck or just walked right past us or stood right in front of us without killing us for some reason, really taking us out of the experience.

[@theboi5584]

The game isn’t bad, in fact I actually think it’s quite good, but it’s definitely struggling from being too ambitious and releasing in a state of being unpolished, which results in excessive bugs and glitches (Which are slowly, but *thankfully* getting patched). I do think after a period of time where the developers can slowly update and polish the game more, it’ll prove itself to be a worthwhile FNAF game.

[@anasevi9456]

Part pf the problem that most FNAF's fans are lucky to have something as powerful as a PS4 pro, PC or not. Besides help wanted they were all very modest games before. This is a problem because FNAF SB was made with the UE4 engine; and is demanding. UE4 is notorious for becoming vastly more buggy on low end or old hardware the more intense graphics are. Slingshot bugs, textures never fully loading, script timeouts. I like it a FNAF SB lot as a game, the scope and environment are amazing, and it has been mostly bug free, but I am mid 20s with a computer that would be considered still high end, even if 3 years old. Fortnite is UE4, but its very well honed and graphically accessible.

[@theboi5584]

@@anasevi9456 yeah, FNAF SB was made primarily for more powerful hardware to take advantage of the graphics and lower the bugs and glitches.

[@PikminCereal2]

I like to call games like this the crash twinsanity effect where you can see the love and ambition but it is covered in bugs and glitches while being rushed

[@theboi5584]

@@PikminCereal2 agreed, I’m still able to like the game because of all the passion and effort that went into making this game

[@nickrustyson8124]

Even then, I wouldn't say slowly, the game came out 2 weeks ago and already got some patches

[@stoffhimel]

most of the boss fights were cut. theirs audio files in the game that would have been used in racing roxy. there was enormousness amounts of stuff cut for various reasons. even a bowling minigame! this game probably needed another 2 years of development to fix most of the issues.

[@The_KingDoge]

Exactly, the scope was far bigger than they could achieve, and it ended up having to be moulded into the final product

[@arturzinurov4781]

And why would they? There are people calling it their most favourite game ever already.

[@hunts4209]

Boss fights like what?

[@chum5868]

Hope this game gets the No man's skye post-release treatment, where they keep working on improving the bugs and adding content to it

[@stoffhimel]

@@hunts4209 racing roxy. thats the only one I know of.

[@cblake4111]

This game has enough flaws to where I'm relatively certain that a whole slew of Security Breach Fan Games will be coming out to make it a bit more presentable.

[@chimanruler15]

Hell, people may straight up just mod the game!

[@Imperials3nate]

.......and we're still waiting for that SB fangame renaissance

[@xxskellyxx1965]

If u look at early trailers, the intended gameplay honestly looks so different from the actual gameplay. They def switched a lotta things up

[@rod1028]

Security breach was such a mixed bag, they did some things right like the design of the animatronics and their personalities, but the game wasn’t ready for open world and it wasn’t even ready for release.The game suffered from many soft locks and bugs. The game wasn’t really scary when you had a faz blaster that removes the tension of the animatronics trying to kill you as you can just flash them. And you know the game ain’t that polished when you can beat it in three minutes.

[@voin5371]

Gotta ask, how do you beat it in 3 minutes?

[@justice8718]

What do you mean? The Fazblaster only really works on Chica and staff bots while blind Roxy, moon, Vanny, and Monty aren't affected by it at all. Although, blinding the main animatronics should take two shots instead of one and the boss areas need to be more dangerous. Imagine if in Roxy's stage, there are more hazards, the hiding spots don't save you, and it taken more time to move on to next room. Monty had little helpers that slow you down and stunned you. Chica's staff bots could actually kill you if they spot you two or three times.

[@Nicu-vy3gm]

@@voin5371 with glitches

[@nickrustyson8124]

@@justice8718 Plus the Camera is so much better, since you take out Monty for it (The only animtronic who isn't affected by the Camera at that point) and it has a much wider range, while the Fazblaster, you need to aim for their face

[@SuperCaitball]

@@voin5371 Speedrunners found a whole bunch of really busted glitches and exploits to massively sequence-break the game.

[@Bobo-wp2bw]

The only time I legitimately felt fear when playing this was when the endoskeletons came to life. That was genuinely creepy and I wish stuff like that happened a lot more often.

[@VenomQuill]

*shutters* That was horrifying. It reminded me a lot of "Joy of Creation" and I kind of hoped a FNaF game like that would have come out. Or with models similar to those or something.

[@mr.faramund2609]

@@VenomQuill Yeah, I really felt FNAF:SB stole that gameplay mechanic from TJOC. I get that the "weeping angel" mechanic is common in a lot of horror games but it feels like even the endoskeleton designs and atmosphere was copied.

[@VenomQuill]

@@mr.faramund2609 Kinda. But of every segment in that game, the endos? I don't know, maybe.

[@meowntown69]

Getting past Roxy without her eyes is scary but it's mostly because you know she's in pain

[@petrichorrs]

Yess.

[@catibarra4496]

One of the things that confuses me about the endings is that the Springtrap ending is supposed to be the true ending but is only given two stars at the end of the cutscene, whereas the free Vanny ending is given three.

[@maximoomega3691]

I have no proof to back this up but maybe those two endings were supposed to be connected in some way

[@cy-bernet-ix]

one problem i noticed was that, if i moved between cameras too quickly, the game just entirely crashed

[@Ducksalesman]

Holy shit

[@unclegrandpagaming165]

FNAF security breach had so much potential, it was just mismanaged & rushed

[@Acethecooldude]

the game should have released in 2022 so the game wouldnt be filled with bugs you can even speedrun it in like 3 or 5 minutes

[@stopmotionartist4987]

@@JROvi12 It definitely felt rushed, especially with the endings

[@lamondlense]

I mean I don’t hold Steel Wool to account for that, the fans were constantly bombarding Scott and Steel Wool to finish the game and this could’ve made them rush production to keep up with the hype

[@rickywilliams1586]

@@Acethecooldude and people would have lost their collective minds. The major issue with the gaming community is the self fulfilling prophecy. They bitch about a game being delayed. They demand it be released. It gets released like they wanted then complain its buggy.

[@rickywilliams1586]

@@stopmotionartist4987 well people were losing their shit over it being delayed.

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I'm not really a fan of FNAF but the new game kinda looks fun. I know the jump scares don't hit as hard but to me that's fine as I'm a wuss. This game has gameplay I can understand. With the other FNAF games I get confused by all the ruels that each game has and mechanics for the nights.

[@milquetoast-god]

I think it’d be better to get a 7~8 dollar game that is confusing to you than to get a 40 dollar game that’s super buggy and has game breaking glitches everywhere. I’m not saying never get Security Breach, but I’d say wait until a good patch comes out or some DLC.

[@joshuaa7266]

From what I've seen, this one is much less coherent. Multiple youtubers got lost because there's no indication for where to go, which is a problem in a game where there's loads of places you can go. It's also ridiculously buggy, and the ai forgets you exist if you stand on anything other than ground. As it is, it looks more like a free pre-release game than a completed $40 game.

[@Capolen]

how the old games can confuse you, they are literally games for 9 year olds xd

[@Phobie_2008]

@@Capolen why do literally everybody think FNAF is a kids franchise? The fucking lore is nowhere near kid friendly. Security Breach is as kid friendly as this series had gotten.

[@Capolen]

@@Phobie_2008 I accept that the old games were not for children but security breach is the most furry childish and ridiculous things that I saw xd

[@teddybearkiller5271]

I hate the fact that they actually went ahead and censured it a lot of it! They took away Vanny's knife and every mention of blood, even though the Fazbear's frights books have dealt with not only blood and guts but actual f*cked up deaths!!!!! Like wtf some of those scenes in the books are legit terrifying and yet we can't have that in the games what the f*ck!!!!!!

[@frozarburst6350]

I already commented before but looking back now, if there's one thing I can take away from this that speaks the most volumes to me other than the broken performance, it's that no fnaf fan I've seen has lost hope in the series because of it. They're still invested in the lore and I'm glad the love is still there even when devs make mistakes. :) So long as they're willing to acknowledge them of course. I don't want it to sound like I want them to fail. I want them to bounce back and deliver a good experience. Not just throw this out there and call it a day

[@slobbybeerus4168]

Maybe they are lying and wanting to give up

[@aruce9]

Security breach is a good example scope creep actively ruining a project. They should’ve had some of this stuff being DLC while making a polished game and in depth lore and a good story.

[@inendlesspain4724]

Maybe an episodic structure. I know people kinda hate episodic games and the format has its own drawbacks, but in this case I think it could've worked well.

[@aruce9]

@@inendlesspain4724 with security breach I could’ve seen it. Like an anthology where you go through different protagonists surviving a night ending with vanny.

[@Nobody-qk4xu]

The game is not bad in concept, but execution, it definitely has heart and soul put into it, which is more than other cashgrabs from big companies can say, but the game is pretty much unfinished, probably because it was rushed, which happens way too much in this era

[@natsuki7325]

I agree

[@The_KingDoge]

Eh, the game feels a bit soulless and rushed

[@MorningSunGamer]

I haven't played it, just watched let's play and stuff. It definitely feels half-baked in the gameplay aspect and story was ok. Like besides the obvious bugs, it feels big budget environment wise, but with not much in it. Best part is Freddy and we need more wholesomeness in some way like with SB Freddy.

[@getsouped]

i like security breach from a visual perspective. its a gorgeous game, i adore the character design (for the most part), and i kinda like how long it takes to explore, because it gives me a chance to take everything in. however, thats... all i really like about the game. its buggy, the lore is either confusing or nonexistent, the endings suck, and as a bonnie fan... i wish they didnt just kinda slap bonnie in the bowling alley and be like “there he is :-)” without anything else pointing to WHERE HE COULD BE???? while i agree that yes, the game was released too early and probably wouldve come out a bit better if they had released it later, steel wool seemed to be the ultimate reason for security breachs downfall by focusing on the details before fixing bugs and nailing down the story solidly.

[@ilikemilk781]

I strongly agree with the fact that it would've been so much cooler if Vanny was just a fucked up crazy person inspired by William to kill children. Something like this could still be done with current story of Vanesa being mind controlled by William, like she could get sick of being told what to do and being pushed around by Glitchtrap and other people in her life, eventually giving in to Glitchtrap and going full serial killer Vanny, but instead she choses not to serve Glitchtrap, instead maybe seeing his flaws in his plans and killings, trying to be more than him and out do him. This is just my personal opinion but I really just want William Afton to stay dead at this point, he was such a good villain in the OG games but now he's just handled poorly in my opinion. I was hoping with the soft reboot of Help Wanted that Vanny would become the new main antagonist for the future games, William would still be there but take more of a back seat, instead something like just call backs and references to him, kind of like Vanny's idol. Like it would have been so creepy to see a a whole shrine room of William or something made by Vanny. Despite the flaws of this game I still enjoyed my time with it, I just hope that whatever is next will improve upon the flaws of Security Breach and further develop the things that worked in this game. I'd give the game a 7/10

[@markandrew287]

this plotline would've actually given a chance for William to have a redemption arc.

[@jozillaarevalo1747]

@@markandrew287 ......tf he... HE MURDERED CHILDREN

[@markandrew287]

@@jozillaarevalo1747 And so did Vegeta, Shadow, Asgore, and an array of plenty other characters who are anti heroes. That doesn't stop them from being good guys and characters.

[@jozillaarevalo1747]

@@markandrew287 XD vegeta still went to hell even after becoming a good guy and he has had dozens of years to build character. Afton coming back isnt that fun to me but id rather him control vanny than come back to work beside us the player against a fan girl. Sorry I dont wanna team up with a guy who uses childrens souls as his play things.

[@markandrew287]

@@jozillaarevalo1747 Fair enough. I don't know, maybe I'm just a sucker for redemption arcs.

[@SwaggyG_2102]

You can definitely tell that there was a lot of things cut from the final version of the game. There was so much cut, that it made the game seem misleading and hurts the story.

[@The_KingDoge]

The game likely was planned to be bigger, but they couldn't handle it and the game ended up as the awkward mesh it ended up as

[@Boonetube27]

I think what would really help Security Breach would be one definitive ending, entailing Afton, Vanny, etc in a nice, long, bow. Solving many complaints, including the missed potential of Vanny, and the meh of the Afton ending. I loved the game, and hope that it can be even better!

[@derpyzmuffinz]

I wish the game had more story than “survive until 6AM.” By the time I started to get invested in the story Freddy told me to leave 🤨

[@Megsducks]

I really appreciate the passion that went into this game though. It’s nice to see creators try ambitious ideas, it just needed to be left in the oven a bit longer.

[@thejumpboy1185]

The problems were Sony (I think) and toxic fans that could dox an employee easily for rushing the game's release

[@meowntown69]

Right?! There really is so much heart to this game but it all feels disjointed

[@wyster14]

I still love how a lot of fans are pinning the blame onto the fans, whenever pressure from fans has almost nothing to do with an overly ambitious game that was developed in a clearly small timeframe for what they wanted done. Yes, they should have delayed, but this problem could have also been avoided if the gaming industry wouldn’t announce games like in the concept stage, instead of waiting for late development to actually start putting out teasers and trailers. Like, I mean final polishing stage, like the game could be released next month and complete stage. The amount of bugs, cut material, and unpolished and optimized stuff is a symptom of what went wrong, and what is wrong. Much like another popular studio, Mojang, they attempted to do a lot, and when they realized they couldn’t they delayed it, and then released a cut and buggy version that’s almost unplayable because they haven’t even optimized it yet. That is the real problem

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

Agreed by the end of the day it’s steel wool and scott fault.

[@chrisgonzales5597]

“the fans rushed it!! they had to release it!!!” do they really think that companies care about fans???

[@Ofxzh]

Fnaf security breach felt like a major let down to me. It felt rushed, and the subtlety the fnaf games had up to this point was just nowhere. Springtrap felt incredibly shoehorned in and I’m pretty sure I could right a better story. Lastly, just strayed away from reality a bit more than what normally was okay.

[@C.L.G._Artisa]

20:19 - Really? I actually really like the idea of the robots becoming so advanced later in the timeline that they start becoming more self-aware with genuine personalities beyond what's in their programming... I think that's super fascinating. In fact, while watching this video, I came up with an idea for the story's direction (if it was redone or something): What if the animatronics really are their own sentient selves who are *not* possessed by the spirits of deceased people, but they've been corrupted by... I dunno, Vanny, Burntrap, whatever? Said corruption forces them to act like mindless killing machines, concealing any sentience deep inside. Maybe Gregory gets to see little snippets of that sentience in different animatronic characters throughout the game, & he (& thus the player) feels for them. Gregory could try helping to free them, & the story could be much more character-driven which I love. I mean, think about it: Freddy claims they're his friends & shows to care about them. He'd certainly want them to be okay. You'd think he'd be more distraught about his supposed friends trying to harm his adopted so- I mean Gregory. Also, I like the idea of Chica, Roxy, & Monty nearly dying but NOT by the hands of Gregory. I actually kinda wish it wasn't him who did that in the canon story. I definitely love this whole "rewrite" idea when it comes to Sun & Moon. In the canon story, Sun never really tries to hurt Gregory & even warns him - practically begs him - not to turn the lights off. After the Moon fight, Sun is angry with Gregory, but he merely bans him from the daycare. Maybe Sun wasn't aware that the other animatronics were also trying to hurt the kid & thought normal security would come get him. I know this comment is long, but I just got super passionate about this outta nowhere & just really wanted to share my thoughts & ideas here. Anyways, great video! 😃👍🌟

[@a_legendary_dodo3774]

I think one of my biggest problems is just how boring the enemies (gameplay-wise) turned after a couple hours into the game. I mean, I understand moving and running is the core mechanic of the game, but every single enemy, despite some of their behavior differences (more/less speed, more/less aggression, etc), can simply be avoided by running and hiding. I think it would have been better to cut on the budget of some map areas and instead add way more animatronics that serve different purposes and could even be associated with their "personalities". Examples: what if roxy was extremely fast and almost unavoidable but, because of her "narcissism", she's easily distracted by lights and sounds; what if monty was rather slow and "dumb", but because of his "anger issues" he constantly destroys obstacles and hiding spots, making it more difficult for you to escape other enemies; finally, what if instead of a million security bots around the area, those same cams you use to help you could also be your detriment, meaning that they constantly share your location to the animatronics and guide them through the map to reach you (and don't just wait around two miles away and teleport in front of you once a bot discovers you).

[@angelinatheweird366]

Dang that's a good idea. Should've been in the game.

[@gereniccc4487]

I love everything about this

[@travisb.honest2438]

With Security Breach it was so Overly-Ambitous that it went full circle and lost all ambition at the last hurdle. From what I have been told there was so many things cut, you could make a new game out of the cut content.

[@yami_the_witch]

Security breach aside from the literal bugs is still fundamentally broken, if you remove the bugs what are you left with? An empty free-roam with barely any threat where moving around is a pain, everything and anything is tedious to do, especially the menial mind numbing tasks, there are no horror elements and vapid visuals. It's not a game, it's a glorified interactive cutscene that drags on and the story elements aren't even good!

[@cecilharvey2005]

I personally think that the main problem that came with Security Breach was that like the developers designed the levels and stuff first (Basically the whole Pizzaplex) before they decided on the story, gameplay, etc. (which was confirmed in the interview Dawko had with the people in charge of the project that you mentioned). Basically, I think Steal Wool designed the gameplay, story, etc. around the levels instead of the other way around.

[@GottaBGlitches]

Freddy teleporting everywhere, appearing on the wrong side of walls, running past you when you call for him and spinning extremely quickly in the charging station in the springtrap boss fight can sometimes be funny, but also annoying

[@ahopefor]

Just seems game breaking and bad to me.

[@SpiceMer]

I feel like they should've released a demo of the game to the youtubers, the feedback might've helped the game a lot and made the fandom see how big they wanted to make the game (i dont know if it would help with bettering endings though) and, well, also, they wouldn't be at the point of no return (unless they made dlc)

[@wafflepawffle52]

Bloody hell, I said this almost exactly on gamejolt and my account got banned! I can’t believe that so many people are covering up for the mediocrity that’s it’s disheartening. This is a franchise I dearly love, but the moment when I say “wait, this isn’t high quality, it’s not horrible but it’s not overwhelmingly good, like everyone is saying it is” I get blocked and even banned from game jolt communities. Idk how to feel

[@burgerkingfries4941]

Gamejolt moment

[@sfmhero0127]

I completely agree! You made great and true statements. For some reason though, I love the game. Maybe because it's a bit different than the others and was fascinating to experience. It could have been so much better, of course and it definitely has issues, but it does show that this studio has potential. This game really had great moments and creative character designs. Still my favorite was the daycare sequence, an utterly terrifying idea. I also loved having an animatronic on your side, kinda a breath of fresh air and interesting to see their take on such an idea.

[@slenderminion2229]

Security Breach was the biggest disappointment of the year for me, and as a big fan of the series that just breaks my heart to say. Everything you said reflected my views on the game: overambition and lack of focus. The game supposedly ended up being three times as big as it was supposed to, yet in retrospect i think that was a mistake. Better to have a smaller, polished, more linear and focused experience than a big, vague, unfinished mess. We have two villains that have been hyped up for years, Vanny and the return of Afton via Glitchtrap, yet both of them got barely any screentime at all. Hell, Afton has more lines in the _trailer_ than he does in the game since he's completely mute. The game should have been all about the connection between Vanny and Afton and how Gregory does (or doesn't) fit into their plans. There was a big opportunity to flesh out these characters that was completely wasted. The story just... _stops_ once you get the first party pass. It worked with the other games because they were small enough to have simpler plots and leave the interconnection with the rest of the series to secrets, but Security Breach is such a large game that it _needed_ to have a proper story to keep us going. It doesn't and ends up completely unsatisfying as a result. Plus, you know, the true ending completely spits on the ending to Pizzeria Simulator by having Henry's sacrifice turn out to have accomplished absolutely nothing. Not only is Springtrap still active for some godforsaken reason despite having a much better continuation in Glitchtrap, but the other animatronics are also still there via the Molten Freddy Blob thing. Gameplay-wise, the decision to turn off the save stations at 6 AM just completely boggles my mind. You're seriously telling me that nobody thought that disabling the ability to SAVE YOUR GAME in a game designed around exploration and finding secrets and multiple endings was a bad idea?

[@VenomQuill]

The game went super well up to just past Daycare when you got the first badge and found yourself in the main area. I think what happened was the game was linear. You could do literally nothing else. At all. Just a linear story. Keep away from robots, roam some dark hallway before the daycare, evade Moon, and then get out and grab Freddy's help. After that, you're on your own. Being on your own in an open-world game is rarely fun. Skyrim was open world and fun, but it had pretty much zero plot, flat characters, and was made to just be a sandbox to play in. The DLCs were amazing because they were full of plot and cool new stuff. And guess what? They were linear in a smaller environment. I love Security Breach. However, I think it would have benefitted greatly from being a tad more linear. Maybe letting people choose which boss to fight first is cool, but most of the game is "Here's an extremely vague thing you need to do with a vague description, get on it" and then being thrown into the world. A more detailed quest list and maybe some bumpers on the bowling lane would do the game very well. Again, not so much that it ruins the open-world aspect or feels like an interactive movie, but enough that you know what to do.

[@cordyceps7531]

Don’t forget that Baby and the Puppet are also inside the Molten Freddy blob thing, which means Scrap Baby Lefty’s souls survived the fire, which basically means that all Henry did was kill himself and achieved nothing.

[@slenderminion2229]

@@cordyceps7531 Yeah, i counted them as "the other animatronics". I guess at least Michael got peace, but other than that Henry accomplished nothing. It would have been far more satisfying if the Blob just didn't exist and Afton was now restrained to being a digital being without a body of his own. At least that way it would have done some good and slowed him way down.

[@redpanda6497]

@@slenderminion2229 Just wait till they make another game where even Michael survives.

[@slenderminion2229]

@@redpanda6497 God please no.

[@slynthehedgehog8061]

"The game's story is too simplistic." * Look at MatPat already going batshit insane * -Not too sure about that...

[@henrynelson9301]

MatPat made a theory video on a Friday Night Funkin MOD, it’s not exactly a high bar.

[@tarabaci]

He does that because clicks and money.

[@jimmyoakmeister]

He's working with so little that he has to make shit up to try and explain it, really

[@uckbritley1305]

he may actually be insane

[@wingdings_1738]

I just think the game doesn’t work on a conceptual level. What made the originals so scary was the helplessness of being stuck in one room. That and making the animatronics all 80’s glam rock makes them not scary anymore.

[@Jepsonduel]

Fnaf: Security Breach is a game that can be perfectly represented through a masterful scene in the movie Fred 2 that I will now unrealistically describe. Fred and his friend are present at Fred's mom's date (which is at a restaurant) because they are spying on her date since they think he is a vampire. (Already amazing I know). While his friend pretends to be a waitress, Fred finds himself being mistaken for a new cook who was supposed to be there but did not show up. He swiftly begins making food as if he was meant to be there. As this whole ordeal is going down, Fred says to the head chef, "Ayo, this place is wack. It ain't got that real ish." The head chef then responds. "Excuse me good sir, but I believe that you should show us more respect as we have certainly had more experience than you in culinary arts." Fred then calmly responds with, "Real ish brotha. But You know I can make anything taste killer, man." The head chef understandably not believing this preposterous assertion comes back intensely with, "I see... Can you kindly show us this skill you remark at?" Another worker behind him nods then quickly pulls out a cartoonish, yet concerning-ly dirty sock; challenging Fred to make it taste amazing. Fred respectfully replies, "Bet." Fred then proceeds to get to work with the sock. He dices vegetables. Get's the fryer ready, and gets out various other ingredients. After being done with this daring task, Fred presents his fried sock to the man who the sock belonged to with very beautiful presentation. The man suspensefully eats the sock in silence... Fred sweating and barely being able to ask, "Yo homie. Slide a man some info, is it good?" The man swallows and gives Fred a brief, yet long awaited reaction. He says......"It tastes like a sock." Fred, swiping his sweat from his forehead, responds and says, "But it tastes pretty good for a sock right?" The man affirmingly nods. In this long winded and humorous Fred 2 reference, I mean to say that I like where they wanted to go with this. They released it at an awful quality, tried to say they would work on it, and I respect it. Unfortunately, as our good friend Fred showed... You can get something out quickly and say "Oh, I'll just make it good later," but if you are given a pile of hot steamy doo doo and are told to make it taste good, the result will undeniably be poop. Maybe it will be slightly better than just normal poop. But at the end of the day, you can do everything in your power to make that poo poo taste cool cool. But... it's gonna still be pretty bad. Unless you take out the main ingredient, which is the poop, you will not make a masterpiece. And with this, fine reader, I bid you... adios.

[@logankessler]

I think steel wool has great potential when it comes to the FNAF series. This game was, in my opinion, impressive for an indie developer for their first game to this scale. I can’t wait to see what Steel Wool brings to the franchise next!

[@sebastianc1110]

Same here.

[@SpringyGirl69]

Yea fnaf vr was pretty good.

[@cupid5366]

Yeah but I don’t really see this as a FNaF game….it’s pretty and all, but it’s super buggy and overall just isn’t what was originally intended

[@Nate14567]

They pretty much threw the old unique concept out of the window

[@alexgrant7514]

"Have you ever heard of Among us, Gregory?" We need more memes spoken in that smooth voice.

[@Chronically_Bored]

Fnaf 6 was the perfect ending (the henry speech was fucking badass like that line "don't keep the devil waiting old friend." God damn) and so everything after fnaf 6 i disregard as alternate universe in the multiverse so it doesnt botch up henry and michael's sacrifice because that ending doesn't deserve this slander