Fool Me Twice - The Supernormal Saga: Part 2 - The Lies of Artur Łączkowski

♪ The chest and the head divided by a white laser ♪
♪ A pattern of mad strobes, you're going haywire ♪
♪ You're playing your best role but the mask shatters ♪
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[@indiegamejoe]

First of all, a huge thank you to BobVids for the incredible support throughout this whole ordeal. I'm truly grateful to have met him; he's genuinely a goodsoul. So, thank you so much, Bob! I'm feeling really down and upset with myself for helping someone like Artur. It bothers me that I let myself be manipulated and deceived. I keep wondering, what could I have done differently to see through him? When he first reached out, as the video details, he completely lied about who he was and his past. I believed he was a new indie developer, and I sincerely wanted to help, because that's just who I am-I like to help people. I won't pretend that this experience hasn't shaken my trust; it definitely has. I often help indie developers for free, spending hours on calls to offer advice and assistance wherever I can. But this has really knocked my confidence, and I'll find it hard to trust as freely as I did before. However, I refuse to let Artur change who I am. I want to continue being the kind person I know I am, and I’ll do my best to move past this. Lastly, if you're racist, transphobic, or hateful in any way, I have a simple message: please leave. For everyone facing racism or any form of hate, I am so, so sorry! Do what makes you happy and live your best life, because you deserve it. Love to all of you, and yeah, it’s going to take some time to process all of this!

[@Argusthecat]

You are an amazing example of compassion and empathy, and I wish only good things for you.

[@Dialgadude]

Well-said, man. You have a heart of gold. Don't let anyone take that from you.

[@neongrey333]

hey, thank you for coming forward.

[@chrissysky01]

I'm so sorry you got caught up in this, Joe. You're an amazing person and didn't deserve to be used or lied to. ❤

[@PanAndScanBuddy]

Fuck yeah, Joe! You rule! I'm glad you're out there helping people, because you actually care. Not just about helping people who are just starting out but the marginalized as well!😊

[@rainydayjules]

A lot of people, especially on KZbin, have a tendency to go softer on the person they’ve been criticizing after the have the opportunity to actually speak to them, and I really respect that you’re refusing to let him off the hook.

[@kirbles2035]

More than letting him off the hook, Bob felt very comfortable taking the piss out of him, which I'll admit was fun to watch.

[@GuyWithChainsaw]

Hearing this guy say something was not good enough to be in his game is comical. Also I'm from Poland. I am also gay. There is problem with discrimination here, but there is also a lot of good people. This guy is an embarrasment.

[@ketrub]

nothing quite like using your whole country as a shield to be a horrible person so you can keep perpetuating this oh yeah poor little poland is so unaware that it's not common knowledge racism and transphobia is bad.... get the fuck out with this shit

[@_remblanc]

Poland def has a lot of people who absolutely can’t stand this bigoted crap.

[@weirdautumn]

There is problem with discrimination in all slavic countries. I'm a gay person from ruzzia and I always try to double check devs from this Mordor hellhole. Most of them are into some reactionary nazi shit and openly homophobic. I don't want to support bigots that want to take away my human rights.

[@jakubskarpetowski5960]

It's true that we didn't have as much problems with racism as e.g. USA, France or UK because there weren't as many people of color here in the past (in the 19th century for example). Tbh after getting independency in 1918 and before WWII our country was seen as very open one in comparison. Of course as an European country we had a lot of problems related to antisemitism, even after the German occupation. People of color started to settle here in the 50s as an element of cooperation between Poland, USSR, China and North Korea and mostly in the 90s after the fall of USSR and the opening of the market. Then there were some racism issues which weren't really covered by officials - mostly in language (like offensive terms that have entered linguistic usage) and isolated racist attacks. The effect is that many folks who were raised before 2000s had limited knowledge and views on racism. I think Artur is a perfect example of it - not really racist but with limited moral compass from lack of knowledge. Anyway, not gonna lie - we're living in 2024, there were over 2 decades of the huge expansion of the internet, when we all here had chance to learn and become better. So not really defending the guy, just wanted to share an interesting context in my opinion.

[@jakubskarpetowski5960]

also, LGBT-free zones are no more a thing as we've changed the government few months ago. It's not a very safe country for LGBTQ+ people beside few biggest cities and our current government is centrist-right-wing something but they started cooperating with EU again so hopefully we'll see a change soon. Warsaw is for example a very friendly city and I met there a lot of LGBTQ+ people who feel good here but there is still a lot to do after the last pro-catholic antitrans pro-life trump-esque govnmt which ruined a lot of things.

[@Neillan]

I'm still bewildered and horrified over the fact he used leaked audio of a *women getting brutally assaulted in front of her infant on a 911 call* and still thinks he or his terrible game has any merit. Like WHO TF DOES THAT?! Not to mention people willing to support it because he's "anti-woke" or sum BS.

[@Noxedwin]

Well, he claimed that the voice-acted set didn't feel authentic and emotive enough. So, uh, I guess an argument can be made for him going straight for genuine trauma to sell his tripe. A _deplorable_ argument, but still....

[@tonypeppermint5329]

God damn.

[@Bi0mega]

@@Noxedwin It's one of those weird 'you're not incorrect, but you're still wrong' moments

[@ketrub]

I am from Poland. I live in Poland. His "oh sorry I live in poor little country I no know sorry" excuse had my blood start actually fucking boiling. Artur, wiem, że będziesz w tych komentarzach. Czy naprawdę tak bardzo nisko nas oceniasz? Oj biedna mała Polska nie wie że transfobia jest zła :((

[@CaptainZaimon]

No właśnie, mamy 2024, a nie 2007. Jprdl.

[@maciejtyczynski6836]

Yea that pissed me of too/Ta mnie też to wkurzyło

[@kubazpoznania]

W pełni się zgadzam. Jego tłumaczenie jest obraźliwe dla nas wszystkich.

[@jakub_zawadzki]

Zrozumiałbym jeśli miałby 14 lat, wyobrażam sobie że w gimnazjum lajkowałbym podobne tweety bo faktycznie w takim byłem środowisku... Tylko że gościu ma przynajmniej 20-parę lat, nie wierzę że można być tak nieświadomym społecznie jako dorosła osoba XD

[@JohnathanN-ot5nu]

If you live in Poland, you should already know it's a racist shithole filled with white supremacists but your biggest concern is about a made up bigotry? 😂

[@localocalocaloidic]

liking a video of a black child falling off a roof is beyond fucking horrific. seriously sickening to imagine, how can you live with yourself liking a video of a child in a life-threatening situation. i can't believe i have to live on the same planet as someone like that

[@Neillan]

They really do get off sexually to black children suffering smh. Twitter fully encourages it too.

[@Noxedwin]

_"How can you live with yourself liking a video [of a black child being in danger]?"_ When you think that the black child is less than human. You either like it because the child is black, and you're a racist piece of shit who gets off on seeing black people suffer; or you're _not_ racist, but you're still a psychopath because _it's still a child suffering._

[@iwannabeyahtzee8056]

Was the kid alright? Like seriously, thats messed up. I hate that people post shit like that.

[@kimberlygaray7860]

Props to Joe for coming forward 👏

[@chillsy_pluto]

something seems off to me about the fact that arthur put an actual real-life 911 call of a sexual assault victim in a game and he handwaves it as "oh I just looked it up on youtube"

[@vriderch1360]

I try my best not to swear when I'm online, but this is supremely fucked up. Joe seems like the nicest guy. I genuinely hope Artur changes, but like you said, it could be entirely fake and he's just placating. I've lied before to protect myself. When I finally realized just how I hurt people, including my friends at the time, I felt like garbage and I vowed to never do it again. I like to believe people can change too, Bob.

[@manboy4720]

sometimes a swear word is the best one to use.

[@Broeckchen]

Good Lord, Joe sounds so... so deeply kind and empathetic.

[@RyanShuttlesworth]

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?

[@jakub_zawadzki]

Man, it really sucks that my country is shown in this light, but then again, the people here really are super intolerant for anyone that's even slightly different. Just wanted to say that there are also many good guys here, unfortunately they are not the ones in power... Thanks for the vid Bob

[@counter_coffee767]

this is extremely disappointing to watch unfold. I feel bad for Joe getting wrapped up in all this and hope he doesn't feel less inclined to help struggling devs in the future.

[@LiarJudas666]

my heart melted the moment i heard Joe speak. his voice seems to reflect a truly caring person

[@weirdautumn]

Love the fact that you made him donate to LGBTQ fund. All the weirdos that supported the dev because of his transphobia should know where their money have gone😂

[@softwinters-rosie]

for the past few years ive looked up to you as a youtuber. not only are your videos just excellently put together, you actually use it to spread kindness and the best for others while calling out those who deserved to be. i feel thats something we dont see much of these days although it really can make all the difference. great work as usual bob

[@CatgirlFingies]

Oof now am crying after that

[@bobvids]

🫂

[@Giancarlo_SO]

A thrilling conclusion, thanks for keeping us updated Bob! I believe that people can change, no matter how horrible, but that belief is not owed and must be proven with action.

[@longlivethesheet4561]

The Artur Saga has honestly opened my eyes to the hellscape that can exist in indie game spaces; I hope the people conned by Artur haven’t had their passion for horror games destroyed by this malicious fraudster and instead find other devs who are at least decent people who deserve the support

[@serenity8839]

Man, I really hope Joe and his sister are alright, them thoughts are hard to deal with, and honestly hope he has looked into therapy after an experience like that, hearing how he felt is just downright awful. He defo seems like a great guy. And the indie dev scene can be hard place to get footing in speaking from experience trying to find people to work with ect can be rough, so him going out of his way just for this to all backfire is horrendous.

[@Antonicane]

I'm really glad you and Joe got a chance to really communicate to Artur just how and why his behaviour is unacceptable, and the human cost of that misanthropic charlatanism. I would hope that Artur is able to take it to heart, deliver on those promises he made, and grow as a person in doing so. However, I also know that people who are habitually stuck in an echo chamber of toxic ideologies are not apt to change their ways so easily. Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst.

[@Shark-Fist]

And to top it all off, he's not even 6 ft. Damn.

[@twkreviews6683]

Listening to Joe really broke my heart. Nothing but love and good vibes to him. Also, beyond thankful to have someone like you in our community who really cares. Thank you, Bob for being one of my favorite internet people for over a decade.

[@megapussi]

Even if Artur genuinely feels bad and wants to change, there's very little reason to believe that he actually will. People don't go through movie magic change of hearts that instantly change who they are. This guy lies about everything, even completely inane shit that does literally nothing to benefit him. His word is worthless, we'll just have to wait and see if his actions do anything to fit what he says.

[@joebrown6778]

People can change though. It won't happen overnight, and it's more likely to happen if we handle it with care. It's unlikely to happen if we don't allow the space for people that do awful, heinous things to feel that they actually do have a road to redemption that we're rooting for them to take.

[@clumsyninja925]

​@joebrown6778 do you have a point? All you did was reword OPs comment.

[@glassphoenix9095]

@@clumsyninja925 a lot of the conversation surrounding artur has been very spiteful and angry towards him - and rightfully so, he's done despicable shit, make no mistake. but the internet has a bad habit of building up peoples' identities on the things they've done, or whatever they're known for, which kind of results in them being codified as that one thing forever. like how james somerton is known by most people as The Plagiarism Guy now. it doesn't matter if people like artur do _want_ to change if they're simply not given that chance, because so much of the discourse surrounding them involves people spitting in their face for what they've already done. it can make them feel like they'll never be forgiven, or like they don't _want_ to associate with the people who are mad at them, and if we're not careful, it's possible they'll just double down on their old habits. hate and anger can be comfortable things to stew in, especially if they're already familiar to you. it's already so easy to fear and loathe what you don't understand, and if the unknown is openly hostile to you, it only gets easier to shrink away from it. i'm not saying anyone needs to forgive artur or make excuses for him; if he does want to be a better person, that _will_ hinge on him putting in the effort. and it'll probably be less daunting to get started if he gets some breathing room first. let the poor sod be on his own for a bit and think about what road he wants to take without people spitting in his face every other moment

[@Peasham]

​@@glassphoenix9095If he can't handle people criticizing him for things he wants to change on, something he'd have to do to himself if he really wanted to change, then he ain't changing.

[@Turnip199]

Definitely a heavy watch, but I'm certainly glad Joe was able to get some type of closure after being caught up in the splash zone. Interesting to see if Artur actually follows through and grows from this.

[@Halucygeno]

I wonder to what extent cultural upbringing actually explains bigotry? I'm from Poland, but I've had the privilege to be born to well-off parents who moved a lot between countries and sent me to a boarding school in England. Perhaps unsurprisingly, I ended up identifying as firmly left-wing, with ambiguously European sensibilities. I imagine I would be far less so if I had stayed in Poland and fallen in with the wrong crowd. But still, it feels weird to hear someone bring up their country of origin as an explanation(?) for why they did a racism. There has to be some deeper emotional introspection there than just "my culture made me"...

[@Churono]

If he were trying to use a smaller, more personal circle of influences on himself growing up as an explanation, rather than a broad culture, it would be easier to swallow.

[@Agent_Eli]

One of the worst things about this is that I really do want to believe Artur can change. I want to believe that terrible people can change. We’ll have to wait and see. At least this brought my attention to the KPH and motivated me to though a couple of bucks their way, as I’m sure it has others. Keep fighting the good fight, bob.

[@everfluctuating]

i believe people can change, but they have to want to change. i dont know if artur does. i dont know how much of what he told you and joe was genuine remorse and how much was lip service to make the problem disappear. only time will tell. thanks for the update. another great vid.

[@DemonofHell48]

I hope Artur does change as a person. Even if he keeps making bad bad games he could make good art if he honestly tries to change. I'd rather it be because of lack of talent or developing skills. Not because of harmful ideas in his head. He could make something if he takes the time to change and grow. There is something to tap into and help the space. And if he doesn't...well, not ever horror story is fictional.

[@LadyDeSelby]

His goal is to make money from the weirdly lucrative "Horror Game Community", I don't think he has any interest in making "good" games.

[@EzraM5]

Good on you for keeping on top of him. I do also believe people deserve a second chance to improve. Actions will always speak louder than words, though, so we'll see how much he owns up to this.

[@LordBaruch]

UM, I think what you meant to say was “Fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.”

[@ZekeXyZy]

Finding it funny that he’s trying to cover up his views by punching down his own country. We’re at the center of Europe and not a deserted island.

[@Shades14]

12:22 An old pal of mine had a really great take on that. They said, "Fool me three times, I'll cut you!"

[@Noxedwin]

"Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, _also_ shame on me. Fool me three times, and I am sent to my death." - Heavy Weapons Guy, _Poker Night at The Inventory._

[@TheNerdWithASuit]

This is journalism. Thank you for everything, Bob.

[@SykoFox]

I really think some people lie as much as they can to see how much they can get away with.

[@illbeanything262]

here's to hoping he changes his ways

[@Feasco]

hope in one hand, horseshit in the other see which piles up quicker

[@csokissuti7343]

I Don't think so. He had a chance to change when he became an adult. He still liked weird ass posts about people suffering..etc "I was a dumb kid" isn't really an excuse when you do something more than stupid. I mean putting someone's traumatic experience into game isn't really a dumb kid mindset. But whatever,I am way too sceptic towards him.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Fellow horror game lover here. Loved what you just said about silent hill 2 it really is more than just a game : ) Thanks for doing the right thing bobvids. I too hope Artur can change his vile ways. Like come on buddy, you don't have to be a pos like that!

[@kubazpoznania]

I am Polish and I do not agree with Artur's statement that many people here have "unpleasant thoughts about people outside". Only a small group of crapheads do and we condemn that rigorously! That's disgusting Artur said something like that about his Fatherland!

[@jamesl1153]

You’re a modern day Sherlock homes old sport! Thanks for sharing your discovery and uncovering this shady and disturbing individual and bringing him to light. He won’t change, but less people will fall for his future ploys thanks to you.

[@lupuslapas6568]

I had to mute the video when Artur started talking to explain why he used the 911 call. And followed by Joe's genuine plea to explain why no one would ever want their call used for entertainment really hurt to hear. While I want to believe anyone can change, someone who's prime entertainment on Twitter being videos of black people being hate crimed/dying going on to using real audio of a SA strike me as someone who has a very, very long and cruel journey ahead of them for change. Poland does, in fact, have a shockingly large volume of violent Nazis in the country surrounded by an extremely Catholic community. Is that the entire country? No. Just like any other country, the majority of the people are normal, kind, empathetic people. For him to say as an adult he thought any of this was okay and blaming it on Poland is just ingenuine. Right now he's not looking to actually change, he is looking to cover up his violent racist, transphobic, misogynistic beliefs in order to still get money. At the very least I hope he never makes it in the game industry for many years to come.

[@MrDumbRodent]

You're doing good work, Bob. Thank you.

[@shoesfillupwithwater]

Oh, Bob. This video is so sad. I feel so terribly for everyone affected by this entire scam.

[@Feasco]

9:43 y'know when the big titted anime demon girl vtuber avatar expressed disappointment at the situation i *felt that* (for real though all seriousness shit sucks)

[@connor48880]

In my experience, people like this who promise to change, don’t But we’ll just have to wait and see

[@scolkereybel]

Yeah, the whole 'Look, Im in Poland, so like, Im just doing as the culture demands' doesn't really explain why you then went on to lie and manipulate multiple people. That implies a level of understanding that you are in the wrong. So yeah, Im not holding my breath to see if he actually does what he said he''ll do

[@Speilbilde]

I will give Arthur this: after seeing do many horrible apologies full of people trying to shift the blame of what they did into a vague "thing" that "happened", at the very least it was refreshing to correct himself every time he tried to say "we did" and say "I did". I hope he does reflect on this and change. I don't know that he will, but I think it would be nice if he did.

[@Nikkibuh]

Big props to you bobvids for this little 'supernormal series', this is a huge mess that's just not worth anybody's fuckin time but im glad something good may have come out of this.

[@xs10shul]

It's good for you to bring all of this to light, although I think the entire games industry is a cesspool.

[@tatterdemalionUK]

Thanks again, Bob. What a shame for Joe.

[@chaolachao]

That ending P.S. ... Ouch...

[@ToastyDaEngi]

I honestly hope you continue to find and expose people like Artur for their horrendous actions. It's an ocean of potential content out there.

[@solinvictus5513]

Hey Bob. I have been a fan since the subtitled homecoming lets play. Thank you for videos. I just wanted to say as much as I myself believe being extra stern with these transphobes, racist, bigots online I can’t say I was comfortable with the tone at the end of the video. you have much bigger perspective about this whole situation than us so you have your reasons to find his apologies insincere. Hell even I am not sure he deserves a second chance. That being said I consider his apology a positive. Being skeptical about his sincerity is where I would end things. You can still be angry for all the fucked up things he has done and I honestly am angry as well but if we are going to say “ok show it then” to him, I am not comfortable starting it with angry shouts. Or I am still naive I don’t know.

[@LadyDeSelby]

yeah, Artur has zero integrity and finding out more about him is certainly fascinating content but I felt a bit weirded out by the tone of the video. not for Artur's sake, i just don't find "defeating the Bad Guys" to be a great atmosphere to be in

[@NotJonJost]

In the guy's mildest defence, I think his regret over using the real 911 call sounded genuine and real, and the way he talked seemed to indicate making some kind of meaningful change in attitude-- he just talked with a flattened affect and in a second language, so him trying to think up the right words could come off as seeming suspect. I mean-- hopefully.

[@fireair100]

Yeah the problem is that...well he has lied multiple times before and trusting someone who says they want to make amends gets harder and harder the longer they have lied.

[@ToastyCubes]

@@fireair100 "You see, his real crime was being a human."

[@greenhowie]

That deleted comment is hilarious. The 13 year old codtuber energy is strong in that one.

[@Aburaishi]

I really do want Artur to improve himself, to redeem himself, to be better. The Discord call gives me a bit of hope (funny enough, especially the part where he admitted he was shorter than 6ft). Please do keep us updated

[@ItsSteinH]

Fair play Bob and Joe ofc

[@visceralerror]

I can't describe how bad it feels to be an indie horror developer who tries to do things right and works as hard as possible on their projects, and see that there are people like Arthur with more visibility. It really makes me feel awful, lol.

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

wow i love joe, poor guy. Whole situation sucks. What a good dude.

[@collin4555]

A man goes out of his way to deny being 6 foot, there's some amount of credibility on the table there

[@LW1773]

Round two baby, let's fucking GO

[@resusvideos3659]

I'm crying soo hard, thank you bob i really think videos like this one make a difference. I'm very touched and emotionnal that people like you and Joe exist. You managed to not keep quiet in face of violence and belitteling and i look up to you thank you Bob and Joe. I'm gonna wipe my tears i can't see my screen You are really sweet people and i really wish you the best.

[@purpleYamask]

Aside from the actual video, I'd like to commend the lyrics from GOLIATH by WOODKID.

[@littlesewingmachine]

I am SHOCKED, just speechless... BTW great video Bob!❤️🏳️‍🌈

[@Arkain89]

3:05 when I hear things like this, I just can't help seeing Dennis say "why don't we buy THREE WEEKS of a timeshare"

[@DanielSantosAnalysis]

I can't believe he's not 6ft.

[@sarsmask]

who had money on Arthur being a little birthday boy?

[@tomsmarkovs1946]

Hi, sorry this is off topic. but I watched both Voidburger playtrough's of SH: The short message. And am now watching a VOD of you two theorizing about it. I was wondering, have you come up with a solid theory that explains everything? I've been digging into it for a weak now, and I think I actually figured it out. It's really hard to find people interested in it. . My problem is that I really think the common consensus on the game is wrong. Most people get the main plot but there is a lot more if you want to explain most of the stuff that seem out of place at first.

[@CaitCatM]

Wait, the actual audio itself was from the real 911 call? I thought that whole thing with that was just about using exact dialogue from a real call for a recreation. I mean, both would have been incredibly shitty, but jesus christ, I was happier when I misunderstood that one. Fuck that shit, seriously.

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

*don't trust him*

[@CatgirlFingies]

How much more horrible stuff can this one guy do wth

[@nicreven]

Do you think his mother's really proud of him Or was that the other serial liar? xD

[@Noxedwin]

@@nicreven You mean to tell us that Artur was the first Pole to develop horror games?!

[@r4zi3lgintoro65]

Artur feels like a single parent kid whose parent didn't put attention to him very much

[@Arexion5293]

That stuff about Poland and its zones? Yeah I don't need to look it up, I've heard about it directly from a few polish people over Discord. It's messed up.

[@GooeyGremlin]

I'd be curious to see if Artur does actually want to change down the line. I've seen folks do a heel-turn before, so its not impossible. But it's good you're not giving him the benefit of doubt. Its so easy saying you can change as person, but the actuality of doing it is long and bloody hard, and lots of folks balk the moment they get the first sign of pushback. It's something you have to truly, deeply want and work for despite if no one believes you.

[@uisce_]

YEAAAA 2.0

[@KeithTheL00N]

Will you be releasing the full call in the future?

[@powerlucario]

I hope Arthur was genuine in his voice call, he seemed upfront but I'm not counting on it. He's an asshole, but if he wants to be, he seems smart enough to become a better person

[@vexxama]

Do we have an update on this?

[@MesaAufenhand]

"maybe you're right of the things that I actually did"

[@MesaAufenhand]

Maybe

[@Lucy-cl2qk]

come on artur is not gonna change because some dude told him he should lol and of course he blamed being polish on his racism, I'm polish and not any of the things he is, see? it's easy

[@AlexBooks13]

amazingly I come from a similar small country that was also very much similar but once i got access to more diverse books AND Internet i was able to recognise things and unlearn so much so uh the comment about being from Poland etc is such a cop out. He clearly has access to internet and other point of views and like...not an excuse man.

[@heavy0119]

People never change, not really

[@jacksonayres6326]

If Artur Łączkowski had just recognized the awful nature of his hateful actions and resolved to change, all of this could have been avoided. A lot of people are unconsciously bigoted or hateful, so Artur's situation isn't really abnormal or irredeemable. The staunch refusal of Artur and bigots like him to become better people is mind boggling. I don't understand how people can admit to being pieces of shit and be proud about it.

[@MrRipper557]

Not to let art off the hook and I think he does need to change (and love you moviebob bee watching for many years) but I will at least respect he did face you and try to make right... he maybe lying or not but that is still miles more than a lot of people I have seen who get caught with their hand in the cookie jar... I hope he does better because I want to believe awful things can change when faced with the damages so here is holding a candle of hope he does

[@Wiklina616]

I am sure he is developing his games in some middle of nowhere bumfuck village near Wąchock. As someone who lives in one of bigger Polish cities (Wroclaw) I am sure he is not one of big city developers, because being pro LGBTQ here is not that uncommon.

[@infinitivez]

Like I wanna be mad about you not giving him the chance to actually show he's making amends, before calling him a liar again. But then at the end, finding out he's not actually 6foot, I mean dude, screw this guy! 😆HOW COULD HE! Wish he does put in the work to fix this mess. It wouldn't take much, not as much as some. He's already done the hardest part by admitting he lied, now all he has to do is not lie again. But if he screws it up this time, he's just going ruin the rest of his life as being the guy who can't keep his word.

[@IncensedAgitator]

Its probably just a nitpick but I hate how pronounced his ums are, it feels like its almost purposesfully annoying but its probably just language, but also maybe not

[@dextergrif]

Having lived in Poland as a kid… yeah. It’s really bad to be non-white or gay in that country, so to a degree I understand being born and raised in that environment and not questioning that mindset. However, that’s not an excuse for your behavior, it’s an explanation. You need to do the other half of that and improve yourself, and if you’re not willing to do that… that explanation becomes just another excuse that the rest of us should completely ignore.

[@Thaelyn1312]

So, I would like to state this: from a perspective of my personal lived experiences, unlearning what I've been taught by a Puritan society & putting victims front & center, I do not understand why you put in your conversation with Artur Łączkowski. If you honestly felt speaking to him was going to do anything productive, fine, but why put that in the video? I truly don't get that part. As much as you still were assertive in the conversation, it's just...when you converse with the bigots, it's giving them attention that I think is better suited elsewhere. It gives them validity.

[@alanfrank7104]

Promo-SM

[@unblorbosyourshows9635]

11:00 AMONGUS

[@Cerise4697]

This comment might get deleted or whatnot and I don't expect most of Bob's audience to agree but I am kind of weirded out by the practice of constantly saying you'd like someone to change while publicly telling everyone that you don't believe they're capable of it and that they will continue to lie about their progress. This isn't really about Artur, I don't give a wet fart about the guy nor should I care about some dude who seems to be making some of the worst cruft on the Steam horror page, but it's just this tendency I see not just in Bob but in a lot of folks on the left or who purport to believe in restorative justice. It is true, as a few commenters have pointed out, that Artur seems at least regretful of putting the 911 call in his game, and from the little Bob has shown us I don't find much reason to believe OR disbelieve him either way when he says he thinks it was a stupid decision. I did watch Bob's previous video on the guy and was obviously appalled, and I could believe that any behind-the-scenes interactions with Artur might have cemented Bob's conviction that the dude is incapable of change, but barring the possibility that there's stuff Bob just can't show us out of a respect for privacy (which: I assume Joe and/or his sister were OK about publicizing the attempt, right?), I don't know if blasting around that he seems like a piece of shit who can't change is gonna be, like, terribly conducive to actually changing someone's mind out of motivations that aren't plain shame or guilt? Ironically enough I'm writing this comment in the first place because I do think Bob of all people is capable of at least reflecting on issues like this. I'm sorry Joe and everyone else had to get caught in the crossfires of Artur's bad behavior.

[@Churono]

Many people out there profess regret or intentions to change in order to enjoy an immediate reprieve, then have no follow-through. It's hard to say if this is because they never had the intention at all, or they were banking on people just forgetting their history once it's out of mind. It is deeply frustrating to have your trust in someone who claims they're going to change be betrayed like this. I understand having your guard up, and leaving room for people who aren't ready to forgive them yet. There is the further matter that even if someone does change, it doesn't erase what they've done before; that's still factually the case, and it's often worth it to remember the past even if someone does change for the better.

[@LadyDeSelby]

Yeah, I personally don't have any sympathy for Artur in particular (and he does seem to be a compulsive liar) but I don't think the rhetoric and tone around this is something people should be so comfortable with. It feels a bit like using the obvious moral superiority as "content" for a good video; look at this call of us telling him how to be good like us, the good guys! This kind of tactic can very easily be used against people who aren't as clearly bankrupt as Artur, and are more vulnerable as well. I know this is a tough topic for people to talk about, especially when they feel on guard from bad faith "so much for the tolerant left" criticism, but it's very, very worth people bringing up.

[@Peasham]

He's not sorry he did it, he's sorry he got caught. Until we can definitively say he's sorry he did it, there's nothing wrong with criticizing him further, as he should be ready and willing to listen to that criticism if he truly wants to change.

[@Cerise4697]

@@Peasham idk, ideally you'd be right, but also: he's some guy on the internet. it's not like i or really anyone else in this comment section is personally deeply invested in his wellbeing or his growth. nor *should* we be; he's a stranger to us. i think there's more than a small element of performativity to statements like this, where all of us minding our own business after learning that a racist transphobe guy made some games (and staying away from those games) is probably slightly more conducive to whatever path of self-redemption he tries to take. it obviously depends on the person etc but i guess over the years ive grown skeptical of people masking a certain performative false morality as "criticism" that usually isn't even in good faith

[@Peasham]

@@Cerise4697 And if he was just a random racist and homophobe it'd be one thing, but rememberer, he got into this situation by scamming people and saying he'd sue anyone pointing that out, and he has a sizable audience that he gained through lying to someone.

[@m1ssw1z61]

Great video but I'm going to go ahead and guess Joe's sister didn't consent to her suicide attempt being public knowledge? Unless you point out she did at any point? Don't know if she'll love knowing all your viewers know that now 🙃

[@Imthedrunk]

I want to say that I do not intend this to be a personal attack against you bob, so if that's the way I come across that is not my intention. Obviously, adding a real 911 call in any game is in very poor taste, and, in addition, the developer should not have lied regarding the numerous things he's accused of but I think you handled this poorly. At first watching these videos, I was under the impression the developer had made real racist transphobic tweets towards others or attacking communities via his Twitter, but he never has. If he did you would've shown it, but all he's done, in my view, is *like* problematic tweets. I read his blurry apology you showed in this video and he acknowledges that an immature part of himself found those tweets humorous. It seems to me that he had an edgy sense of humor but never actually composed any real harmful tweets towards anyone, so I don't believe he's an actual racist or transphobe. We should be more careful who we call racist or transphobic epecially since on the internet these terms get thrown around so much that the words themselves become or start to become meaningless. I don't think *liking* edgy tweets is enough to prove as a matter of fact that someone is definetly racist or transphobic. I think it might depend on the rubric or criteria you're using but this instance, to me, is not one of those cases. I can only speculate that the reason the developer's inital apology was deleted from his Twitter was because people didn't find it satisfying and left negative comments as per usual when a content creator posts an apology online. Whether he left the apology up on his Twitter or deleted it, I feel like it still wouldn't have been enough for anyone. Towards the end of this video you still discredit the developer and believe him to be a liar, poisoning the well to your viewers even after having that conversation with him. I don't think there have been any real victims of targeted harrsament or hatred involving racism or transphobia that have been made by this man. I'm willing to take him at his word and give him the space to change. Please correct me if I'm wrong on anything. I come in peace.

[@Peasham]

When you like something on Twitter, it gets shared to your followers. When you like something on Twitter, that means you like it. Hope this helps, though I've a feeling it won't.

[@Churono]

If your takeaway from these videos was 'Artur personally made racist transphobic tweets', well, that's not something bob said. If you took away that bob was specifically or definitively calling the man racist or transphobic, this also was not something bob said. All your comment reflects is your own difficulties listening and understanding this bit of nuance. bob simply stating facts in line with what he knew so people could make informed purchasing decisions about Artur's game should not have been very controversial, but it ended up resulting in a legal threat. Nobody is saying that Artur should go to prison or whatever you're thinking a lack of forgiveness would result in.

[@bobothetransdimensionalhob2659]

So correct me if im wrong but bobvids is attempting to irreparably tarnish a man's reputation because he made a few game bobvids didnt like and the man liked tweets that bobvids also did not like.

[@doctordice2doctordice210]

The guy here is scummy but bobvids videos on him are 110% politically motivated first, morally driven second lol Now looking at this video, the guy is a genuine racist scumbag, screw him

[@bobothetransdimensionalhob2659]

@doctordice2doctordice210 The guy is Slavic. Racism kinda runs in their blood. Hell their so racist that despite the fact that they look similar, eat similar foods, and have similar cultures. You would expect them to get along but no. They would rather kill each other believing their better than one another, despite being almost carbon copies of each other. TLDR: the man is Slavic and thus racism is not surprising

[@mamayareborn]

We also can't just float past some of the people mentioned in this video did some stupid and awful things too. Horrovisuals is notorious for defending anti-content warning sentiments and vehemently shared that sentiment to all of his followers saying the games were more important than people's feelings. The vtuber thing at the end sucks sure, but keep in mind we're talking about someone who made a joke out of the idea of sexualizing women and the objectification and commoditization of female streamers in online spaces with hypersexualized anime avatars. She does not give a fuck and it's telling her first reaction was "oh no what will they think of ME". I hate Artur and I adore horror games, but let's not pretend he came out of nowhere. He is solely a product of a very real rot that exists in this community, and always has.

[@Feasco]

you could have just said nothing about the vtuber

[@vriderch1360]

The VTuber literally did nothing wrong. Who cares if she has breasts?

[@Noxedwin]

Artur attempted to profit off the worst day of a woman's life. A guy tries to normalise traumatic media in public spaces. Woman has big tiddy; realisation that her first sponsor is a shithead. One of these things is not like the others.

[@LadyDeSelby]

classic "women choosing to be sexy is oppressing themselves" moment, i can't believe you have 14 upvotes for this absolutely appalling misogyny - except i can because people just like you say this kind of thing about us online every single day

[@LadyDeSelby]

Hey, my comment is filtered out in "popular comments" view so I have to make a second comment pointing out that the way you talk about that Vtuber is appalingly offensive (certain body types are too inherently dirty for women to have, I guess), and that you have 15 upvotes is even more so. It's becoming a serious issue to me that people talk about women like this and it needs to be pointed out.

[@doctordice2doctordice210]

Ok, I thought you just disagreed with the dude over actual political ideas, this shit? No screw him completely

[@schultheisstudios]

I hope Joe never likes the wrong thing. I hope Bob never likes the wrong thing. I'm not saying Artur didn't deserve the criticism he got, but damn the man came to Bob, admitted he was wrong, tried to make amends, and Bob spends the whole video shitting on him. Will Artur be true to his word, maybe not, but I honestly don't think Bob gives a shit. He sees Artur one way, whether he does better or not.

[@metalsonic8888]

If Artur changes, great. He deserves praise for doing so. Maybe even support for his future endeavors. But only after that change occurs. Words are cheap and as Bob pointed out Artur has a history of lying. Until he has more than words he has to live with the consequences of his prior actions

[@HadalStreetlights]

"The wrong thing" here being hate crimes lmao.

[@schultheisstudios]

@shuurmonsters5615 ever liked a joke that was crass? Shit that is okay today maybe hateful tomorrow, always remember that.

[@lupuslapas6568]

He openly liked videos of black people being violently attacked, nearly killed in accidents, or otherwise harmed due to hate crimes/the videos being posted by racists who proudly wanted these black people hurt. You can be a violent racist and grow from it and become a well rounded person in the future but no one, especially black people and lgbt+ people, are required to accept his apology much less believe him. Considering the sides here are Bob and Joe being lied to and deceived vs Artur hiding as much evidence as possible until he was confronted with it by someone who was helping him earn money ( Joe ), yeah, I see why Bob doesn't like him and would shit on him for the entire video. It's not like Bob outright said Artur will never change; he said that Artur had promised multiple things for Joe and to charities in the end and that he would like Artur to change. And so far Artur has done nothing to show that he is doing so. People deserve second chances but no one that they harmed is obligated to give them that second chance.

[@schultheisstudios]

@metalsonic8888 You're absolutely right he has to prove himself, but I have a hard time believing Bob has any hope for him. Is criticism a one-way street here? I am not defending artur, I literally said he deserves criticism. I just think Bob saying he has hope for humanity is a bit two-faced when he leaves very little room for faith.

[@nunyabusiness6744]

Why is RTarded video recommended to me KZbin no seriously why is this recommended to me

[@Dondonn8xm]

Racism is bad but transphobia isn’t a thing. You'll learn that someday.

[@akhimahathir2004]

L

[@donoso1312]

shut up

[@MikeBurgerChef]

this guy sucks but imagine wanting to tattle on someone this badly

[@vriderch1360]

Yes, calling someone out for awful racist and transphobic behavior, as well as scamming and lying to people, counts as "tattling". Do you hear yourself?

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

@MikeBurgerChef I don't think you're "all there" in the head.

[@Noxedwin]

Upholding social contracts like "Don't profit off the suffering of others", "call out foul behaviour when you see it", "endorsing and spreading hate should not be tolerated" is exactly the same as school playground bickering. You heard it from OP first, folks.

[@EzraM5]

And this shit here is why people act like such pests... Can actions have consequences, please?

[@cas013500]

Maybe don't threaten to sue people if you don't want further attention