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11 ай бұрын

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Sweeper. Sweeper. Sweeper. Turn on any MLB broadcast, and you’ll probably hear that word dropped at least once. What is a sweeper? Well, it’s a variation of a slider that is now its own separate new pitch type. The truth is, pitchers like Dave Stieb and Sergio Romo have always thrown what we now consider to be sweepers, the name just hadn’t stuck yet.
But this episode of Baseball Bits, a Foolish Baseball production, is much more than a simple sweeper explainer. Because to understand the rise of the sweeper, we must also understand the history of pitch tracking. The pitch tracking era began in 2008, continued with Trackman Statcast, and is now handled by Statcast Hawkeye. Hawk-eye in particular is key to to this story, as it lead to confirmation of the seam shifted wake effect. Seam-shifted wake is fundamental to understanding the sweeper grip and sweeper seam orientation.
Some pitchers who have popularized the pitch include Blake Treinen, Evan Phillips, Clay Holmes, Michael King, Mitch Keller, Yu Darvish, and Shohei Ohtani. The Shohei Ohtani Sweeper vs Mike Trout certainly stands out among all sweeper moments. Everyone was tuning in to the Ohtani vs Trout World Baseball Classic matchup. I hope you’ll enjoy the video!
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Alan Nathan on Freddy Garcia’s Splitter: baseball.physics.illinois.edu/...
Seam-Shifted Wake Zoom: baseballaero.com/2020/11/16/s...
Not Just About Magnus Anymore: www.baseballprospectus.com/ne...
Darvish on Sweeper: sports.yahoo.com/hes-throwing...
The Sweeper Has Problems: theathletic.com/4410264/2023/...
Soundtrack by William Kage: williamkage.com/

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@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
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@markpjgaming1795
@markpjgaming1795 11 ай бұрын
don’t let this distract the fact that bartolo colon hit the greatest homer of all time
@fastball1268
@fastball1268 11 ай бұрын
I'm going to Hawaii this summer for 2 weeks and factor has been a great support
@jesus6MOTY
@jesus6MOTY 11 ай бұрын
LET HIM COOK!
@puhleeze9674
@puhleeze9674 7 ай бұрын
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@gold_leader9288
@gold_leader9288 11 ай бұрын
Babe wake up new pitch just dropped
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
babe. babe. they're calling it the sweeper.
@JaredGoofball
@JaredGoofball 11 ай бұрын
Hey babe, come back
@Sup_303
@Sup_303 11 ай бұрын
BABE COME BACK
@deathofgreatness568
@deathofgreatness568 11 ай бұрын
NO BABE I LOVE YOU!
@Anthony_mock
@Anthony_mock 11 ай бұрын
@@evanwetzel9721 slurve drops a lot more
@CrescentCitySweaters
@CrescentCitySweaters 11 ай бұрын
In the Wii version of the 2009 Little League World Series video game, there was a regular curveball pitch button, but if you hooked the controller a certain way it would turn into a “sweeping curve.” About time the big leagues caught up with what 12 and 13 year olds have been throwing for over a decade
@Kitt_the_Katt
@Kitt_the_Katt 11 ай бұрын
Given the age of most baseball players, it may even be plausible that that edition on the Nintendo Wii when they were kids has led to pitchers who are more willing to experiment with their grip. looking to replicate that effect
@turomilen2944
@turomilen2944 11 ай бұрын
the "sweeping curve" has absolutely been in both MLB 2K and MLB The Show longer than that. could come from video games in general
@CinoG2G
@CinoG2G 11 ай бұрын
@@Kitt_the_Katt i really wanna call this a reach...but fuck it..2023
@stonethrower24
@stonethrower24 11 ай бұрын
@@turomilen2944 video games are stupid af
@v2micca
@v2micca 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I remember in MLB The Show as far back as 2009, there was a slider and sweeping slider option for pitcher arsenals. There was also a running fastball, which was ungodly broken until they rebalanced it around the 2018 edition I think.
@JoshGetto
@JoshGetto 11 ай бұрын
This may be the most physics heavy video you have ever published and I for one am absolutely here for it. So cool.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Hopefully it doesn't turn too many people off.
@rallen4954
@rallen4954 11 ай бұрын
Personally i think the ' look over here zoomer ' stats people enjoy an observation like this,niche and interesting enough but approachable too, also glad ur all good after ur channel was hacked, musta been tough
@Th3DarkCanuck
@Th3DarkCanuck 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball It turned me on!
@Whitegorillaboy
@Whitegorillaboy 11 ай бұрын
Go find a thin paperback published 20-25 years back entitled "The Physics of Baseball". I have one. It's very technical, but has a lot of conclusory data in it that's helpful to laypersons.
@extragoogleaccount6061
@extragoogleaccount6061 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball I think its great! I'm curious to see if physics simulations will ever lead to a new pitch being invented. (Instead of studying an existing pitch, using the simulation to discover some interesting movement and then work out how to throw it.) That seems to be the way things are heading. But at the same time....how many more interesting effects can a baseball still be hiding?
@aidanfrye4144
@aidanfrye4144 11 ай бұрын
I find it fascinating how pitches are now being named not only based on their speed differentials or grip, but also their newly discovered spin rates/axes. Like how many pitchers historically can we identify as throwing a sweeper or a gyro slider but just didn’t feel like they needed to distinguish it from a regular slider. I also wonder whether this distinction between sweepers, regular sliders, cutters, and gyro sliders will separate the slider as it’s own category of pitch with tons of variations like fastball, off speed, or curveball.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
Could definitely see "slider" becoming the basis for a pitch with multiple variation like "fastball" (e.g. four-seam vs sinker vs cutter)
@nate_storm
@nate_storm 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball speaking of fastballs, i never hear “2 seam” anymore. are they all considered sinkers?
@TheLockdownKidNYC
@TheLockdownKidNYC 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball Honestly. I could just see them calling it a good, hard slider. Some guys are better at pitches than others - that's why they're elite. I'm not sure if they will always need that kind of distinction.
@alexisborden3191
@alexisborden3191 11 ай бұрын
@@nate_storm They've more or less become interchangeable, they're thrown the same way. Some people call more horizontal pitches two seamers and vertical ones sinkers.
@tyberiusrex5300
@tyberiusrex5300 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@nate_storm it’s the same pitch, the two terms can be used interchangeably. I think in the past the term sinker was used more when it was a 2-seamer down low. But as far as I know they are the same
@GaijinBaseball
@GaijinBaseball 11 ай бұрын
It's really funny to see this video, because a big talking point in NPB circles rn is how the sweeper is getting crushed atm. Some pitchers tried to add it to their arsenal but they can't seem to get it to break right, and NPB batters are having a field day with it.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
It'll ebb and flow for sure. Made sure to note that the sweeper is already a thing in NPB and that it definitely has its shortcomings in MLB.
@greatdays3584
@greatdays3584 11 ай бұрын
feels like NPB has always been a step ahead of MLB when it comes to new pitches. we're now seeing an upward trend in splitters, sweepers, forkballs and other related pitches, that have been present in japan for a solid 10 to 20 years atp
@m.o.5291
@m.o.5291 11 ай бұрын
@@greatdays3584 splitters have always been a thing in the NBP though. The sweeper not working the same way there might be more about the style of baseball. Hitters are more disciplined and contact oriented and there are more control than power pitchers, historically a lot of super crafty control guys with a lot more variety in arm angles. Especially the kind of low arm angles that produce big sweepers. The different and smaller baseball they use might play a role too
@vumasster
@vumasster 11 ай бұрын
@@greatdays3584 didn't Daisuke have the gyro ball back in like 2005?
@andrewhawkins6754
@andrewhawkins6754 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball That's why it's time to release the knuckleball again. Hitters won't be ready. Fans in the outfield stands will need to being gloves for when the pitcher has an off day.
@Banannaise
@Banannaise 11 ай бұрын
mentioning Dave Stieb in the first two minutes -> guaranteed engagement
@homedogg1233
@homedogg1233 11 ай бұрын
Joe Ryan adding his sweeper has been so beneficial for him this year. Big reason why he’s been dominating
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
Yup. Splitter has been dominant too.
@alexlackner1945
@alexlackner1945 11 ай бұрын
It's a bit weird, to me a slider always implied sideways movement, that's how i remember it being explained in the early 90s. But okay since we can now exactly measure the vertical/horizontal movement, i get it that they wanna divide it in two subcategories.
@bryanzzz748
@bryanzzz748 11 ай бұрын
Something else to remember is that sometimes regular sliders can appear to have lots of horizontal movement, but only bc they’re throwing across the body (example: right handed pitcher throwing his slider towards the left handed batter’s box). Now we have all the technology, we can see how much of that movement is because of its spin, and now much is just location.
@alexlackner1945
@alexlackner1945 11 ай бұрын
@@bryanzzz748 yeah good point and the camera angle can probably make it appear different as well.
@Garrett1240
@Garrett1240 10 ай бұрын
Yes, but something with today's sweeper that is unprecedented is that there's far more break and movement on average than ever before. A great slider in the 90s is not a great slider in 2023.
@wallacecreed4746
@wallacecreed4746 11 ай бұрын
This might be your best video yet. I’m excited in 5 years for the sequel when a 12-6 curveball gets renamed a Hammer or some shit like that
@josephserenson166
@josephserenson166 11 ай бұрын
I actually like that name for the 12-6 curve haha
@wallacecreed4746
@wallacecreed4746 11 ай бұрын
@@josephserenson166 people call it that just like people called sliders with lateral movement sweeping sliders before they were sweepers
@Garrett1240
@Garrett1240 10 ай бұрын
I'll remember this comment in 5 years when this eventually comes true.
@CadChamberlain
@CadChamberlain 11 ай бұрын
Sweeper? I hardly know her Kevin Brown was robbed of multiple Cy Youngs and should be in the hall of fame
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
And then I said "that's no sweeper! that's my wife!"
@JaredGoofball
@JaredGoofball 11 ай бұрын
These puns are too punny
@ThatsNotVeryFunnyLol
@ThatsNotVeryFunnyLol 11 ай бұрын
I know mostly all sports can be this way, but this type of video really showcases how much of a fine art Baseball is, especially the pitching aspect. I think batting can be an art too, but pitching is just so fine tuned, and to see how much players can vary from year to year and throughout their career is absolutely insane. It's fascinating and very cool to see.
@peterivery9524
@peterivery9524 11 ай бұрын
Someone who really has been throwing the sweeper for awhile that no one talks about enough is Adam Ottavino. His “slider” has so much horizontal movement and so much gyro spin from the naked eye, however glad to see the sweeper is coming back.
@yourmomsfavoritemexican4804
@yourmomsfavoritemexican4804 11 ай бұрын
I feel like Ottavino doesn’t get talked about enough in terms of how many pitches he has in his arsenal
@faithlarsen1257
@faithlarsen1257 11 ай бұрын
Twins throwing a lot of sweepers is probably a good sized piece of the puzzle behind their improved starting pitching. Joe Ryan’s especially. Love it.
@NuggyRC
@NuggyRC 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the Sergio Romo call out..... watching him throw that sweeping slider was always a beauty!
@WillSinks
@WillSinks 11 ай бұрын
Especially since he had just highlighted the Dodgers. Made my night to hear that Don't You Dare Disregard Sergio Romo call! He was so much fun to see pitch.
@SkilesHasFun
@SkilesHasFun 11 ай бұрын
I would have put the odds of a Dave Stieb mention on Foolish Baseball at about 1 in 241 million.
@Thorml
@Thorml 3 ай бұрын
"A pitch isn't a pitch until Yu Darvish throws one" 14:46 . That made me laugh out loud.
@maybe_proxima64
@maybe_proxima64 11 ай бұрын
dave stieb appearance, you love to see it
@treeprophet4812
@treeprophet4812 11 ай бұрын
I feel insane because i always thought a slider was a pitch that swept across the plate. I thought "wipe-out slider" just meant that Randy Johnson had a really good one. Never thought of a slider as a sinking pitch.
@TimothyRE99
@TimothyRE99 11 ай бұрын
Same here. What makes a "slider" with several inches of downward movement and barely any gloveside movement different from a curveball?
@CHill-42
@CHill-42 Ай бұрын
Im glad the pitch that made me go from a 5.6 era to 1.9 era in high school is getting recognition
@JaxzanProditor
@JaxzanProditor 11 ай бұрын
“Though all pitchers suffer high rates of injury regardless of arsenal” This reminds me, I desperately need a Foolish Baseball video about the knuckleball. Awesome video!
@Jeterfan906
@Jeterfan906 11 ай бұрын
The sweeper is so successful for Keller not only because of the movement but the drop in velocity. He was throwing the power slider that’s been so popular for so long and now that he’s ticked down slightly in velo and added a fastball that has break (2 seam/sinker) he’s become the pitcher he looked like he would be all through out his time in the minors
@bradwurst8141
@bradwurst8141 11 ай бұрын
Really impressive that, even with variable movement, Hendricks could still rely on primarily that pitch.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
Glad he's back to pitching with the Cubs
@thenightrider2121
@thenightrider2121 11 ай бұрын
I knew you’d eventually contribute to Dave Stieb’s HOF case and then follow up with a good lesson on the sweeper.
@skidrat55
@skidrat55 11 ай бұрын
It's absolute travesty he's not in the HOF
@TheGbelcher
@TheGbelcher 11 ай бұрын
As a former hitter, I think the side to side break is more effective now because swings have changed. Batters keep much more weight on their back foot making it easier to adjust to vertical movement but much harder to adjust to horizontal movement
@emmanuelwood8702
@emmanuelwood8702 11 ай бұрын
Pitchers were throwing this pitch since the '1960s. The slider was always understood to be a horizontal breaking pitch since it was invented. This is like Columbus landing in the Caribbean and said he discovered it even though people were living there for thousands of years.
@HT-sm9dm
@HT-sm9dm 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. This generation of people is honestly the worst by a very, very, very large margin.
@mehulpandya4761
@mehulpandya4761 11 ай бұрын
@@HT-sm9dm Do we need to bring up *that* can of worms on this video?
@xSoyPeanut
@xSoyPeanut 11 ай бұрын
Seriously it’s so dumb. They’re literally just throwing sliders
@HT-sm9dm
@HT-sm9dm 11 ай бұрын
@@xSoyPeanut it’s the same thing as velocity and spin rate now. They’re trying to make it look as if every team’s worst middle reliever has better stuff than Pedro Martinez, Sandy Koufax? Randy Johnson, Dwight Gooden, Greg Maddux and Kevin Brown combined on their best day ever pitching. It’s such a sad state of affairs honestly. Supposedly “evolution” is the cause for this giant uptick in performance. Because 2 decades ago human beings were just learning how to make tools out of stone and communicating by using grunts and basic sign language. In the past 20 years human beings evolved at an astronomical rate never seen by any species on this planet before.
@mehulpandya4761
@mehulpandya4761 11 ай бұрын
@@emmanuelwood8702 I wasn't even talking about your comment. I was talking about the guy seconding you.
@tylershapiro4776
@tylershapiro4776 11 ай бұрын
Cool story time. Before I had a pitching coach teach me a proper slider, I threw a slider using the exact same grip clay Holmes is using, and it was effective for me when I was a kid. I don’t know how 11 year old me was intuitive enough to know about Seam-shifting, but it was one of the most recognized pitches in the league I played in
@PhuckChumster
@PhuckChumster 11 ай бұрын
And then everyone on the field unleased buckets of semen
@thegreatescape07
@thegreatescape07 11 ай бұрын
Same! Except I was in high school. I threw a slider and knew it didn't break like a normal slider but didn't know enough to define what it was. I called it my "tailing slider" anytime someone asked about it. Couldn't throw a curveball to save my life but that pitch was my go to and got a lot of swinging misses outside of the zone.
@sneersh9107
@sneersh9107 11 ай бұрын
You would've made the league uncle Rico
@sleepyheadz
@sleepyheadz 11 ай бұрын
I didn't have a strong arm and my fastballs were like throwing batting practice, so I had to be creative to stay on the team and figured out a wicked slow airbender. I mix it up with another slow knuckle curve. Every one knew I was throwing slow stuff but they couldn't hit it. That was 30 years ago. I guess I was inspired by my terrible golf swing that slices from one edge of the fairway to another!
@absolutezero523
@absolutezero523 10 ай бұрын
I threw a 2 seamer that moved the same way the splitter in the video did and I never knew why. It was very inconsistent tho and I don't pitch anymore.
@bradyking8429
@bradyking8429 11 ай бұрын
I never pitched after 12u baseball but as a catcher in warmups I would always play around with grips. My throwing partners were always mesmerized by my slider that had insane horizontal break. Of course I had what’s now known as the wake shift grip. Pretty cool to finally understand the science behind why I could bend such a crazy pitch.
@puckerings
@puckerings 7 ай бұрын
I came into this video expecting to have to post about Dave Stieb throwing a boss sweeper in the 80s. Thank you for saving me the trouble.
@matthewpallenik1407
@matthewpallenik1407 11 ай бұрын
I remember back in 2016, Andrew Miller was mentioned as having 2 different sliders, one with more vertical movement and one with more horizontal movement. We’d probably call the more horizontal one a sweeper now.
@jacobbuffington07
@jacobbuffington07 11 ай бұрын
Gotta also give Tread athletics more props. Not only did they give Clay Holmes his demon sinker, but Mitch Keller also developed his slider with Devin Hayes, one of the pitching whisperers over at Tread... Devin and Ben Brewster are slowly making Tread the best pitcher development group in the WORLD.
@matthewbrault5666
@matthewbrault5666 11 ай бұрын
devin is the man
@cloudbarrow
@cloudbarrow 11 ай бұрын
It's no coincidence that the sweeper evolved with the concept of tunnneling.
@peterskrobola8753
@peterskrobola8753 11 ай бұрын
Two Jon Bois references in the first three minutes. Dave Stieb from ‘Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb’ and Bob Feller from ‘The Bob Emergency.’
@jamey2326
@jamey2326 10 ай бұрын
I thought it was weird a few years back when everything that broke started being called a slider and now actual sliders are making a comeback as "sweepers"
@GeckoN8
@GeckoN8 11 ай бұрын
It really perplexes me how every one of the Dodger’s good right-handed pitching prospects uses the sharp gyro slider instead of the sweepy seam-shifted one, when, as you mentioned, the sweeper is more effective against same-handed hitters. Organizationally, do they feel that the slider of old is more complementary to their four-seamers?
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
I'm guessing that plays a part. Sweeper/sinker is probably a better combo than sweeper/four-seamer in a vacuum.
@cadecavin7343
@cadecavin7343 11 ай бұрын
could be they like the higher velo of the gyro sliders paired with the upper 90s fast balls that guys like bobby miller sport. maybe they like the slider at 85-89 for the hard fastball instead of the 83 or 84 mph sweeper
@YourTVFriend
@YourTVFriend 11 ай бұрын
Some pitchers throw in such a way that throwing a sweeper is pretty natural, depending on how they pronate (twist/rotate their arm) during their natural throwing motion and arm angle. For some throwing motions the gyro slider is a lot more natural.
@nothazzz
@nothazzz 11 ай бұрын
The thumbnail had me gritting my teeth. This might not be the "best" baseball bits, but it's going to go down as one of my favorites. I went into the video thinking, "Not you too, Bailey" and came out surprised that covered my feelings about the "new pitch" so completely. The ending was fantastic. Great video as usual!
@ImBirdBrained
@ImBirdBrained 11 ай бұрын
Love the quick shot on "Liz" Holmes. Perfectly placed.
@arlingtontsang9099
@arlingtontsang9099 11 ай бұрын
So, THAT’S why Dave Stieb’s Slider looks so wicked, with both sweep and drop…
@DogwaterHero
@DogwaterHero 11 ай бұрын
Any new Foolish Baseball video day is a great day. Great video, thanks for the entertainment.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
thanks!
@skidrat55
@skidrat55 11 ай бұрын
I wish I could listen to you explain baseball nuances all day. Got to be one of the brightest baseball guys I've ever seen. Keep it up!
@jharp08
@jharp08 11 ай бұрын
This channel has brought me back to baseball. Thx bro!!
@Semi_Successful
@Semi_Successful 11 ай бұрын
I've been throwing this, just how it's held for over 12 years. I really didn't want to throw a curve ball because I was terrified of hurting my elbow. So I would mess around with the grip until I came up with this. My coaches LOVED it. I called it my slider. He would call it the my slurve. I continued to throw it as my breaking pitch until I quit playing. Just started throwing again recently and I'm laughing that I was actually on to something as a kid. It just felt right in my hand and moved enough for them to whiff.
@calvandergrift
@calvandergrift 11 ай бұрын
Superb time for a Baseball Bits!
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
thank you!
@cubsfan2016W
@cubsfan2016W 11 ай бұрын
I really liked you went into depth about advanced baseball metrics that I haven't heard about. I think your audience is more of your baeball nerd than the average fan. I liked this more than your past video talking about baseball stuff that I mostly already knew. Great video!!
@SenorTortas
@SenorTortas 11 ай бұрын
Bailey, you are the only one whose sponsorships I watch and don't skip through. Thanks for putting the effort in this as well
@hardyworld
@hardyworld 11 ай бұрын
I remember in the 90's when there were 'hard' sliders and 'sweeping' sliders. Since the grip and mechanics are the same, I prefer that terminology over calling them separate pitches, but it's commonly difficult to categorize some pitches. Some pitches look like a mix of a 2-seam fastball and a sinker so how do you categorize those? Until you set technical definitions to these pitches based on how they are thrown and/or their movement, there are always going to be outliers that don't 'fit' conventional pitch definitions.
@timsomers8820
@timsomers8820 11 ай бұрын
Back in high school, I think this was one of the pitches that I used. This would have been back in 2013/14, and I just remember it being able to break from hitting a RH batter to middle of the plate. Alas, I could never get it under control, so I generally would go for the 12-6 curve as my offspeed go-to.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
Probably a lot of called strikes on that pitch for you.
@timsomers8820
@timsomers8820 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball Yeah, even though I could only touch low/mid-70s with my fastball, that was definitely enough in rural northern Michigan lol
@frenchyfred1310
@frenchyfred1310 11 ай бұрын
I've been a fan of yours for a while now, but that was probably one of your best analysis. Congrats young man.
@rafaeldominguez2812
@rafaeldominguez2812 11 ай бұрын
You had me at your video game music and your sense of humor and creativity always keeps me here. You're great at what you do. Thanks for all of your infotainment.
@jakobpierce5078
@jakobpierce5078 11 ай бұрын
A slider was always supposed to be horizontal.
@RatedCargo
@RatedCargo 11 ай бұрын
Factor really brought a new meaning to the Foolish50
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
If I don't get them to sponsor next year's I've failed
@noahmoore6513
@noahmoore6513 11 ай бұрын
One of the best videos you’ve made. We need a few of these every year, heavy research and game theory. Makes me want to research the Zac Gallen Cut Change from a few weeks ago.
@gidster840
@gidster840 11 ай бұрын
it truly astounds me how you don't have more viewers and subscribers with the absolutuely amazing content you make. I find myself rewatching these baseball bits over and over again and instantly clicking when a new one drops because I know I will be watching some of the most high quality youtube videos on the platform. So FB please keep making these videos because they are just so darn good.
@ashtagbeats
@ashtagbeats 9 ай бұрын
Genuinely the best KZbinr in the game of any genre. I’ve probably watched every baseball bits 3 times
@guitarchim
@guitarchim 11 ай бұрын
I'm a pitching physics nerd so this video was right up my alley :D
@walterjohnsonisthegoat8356
@walterjohnsonisthegoat8356 11 ай бұрын
Another amazing video. You should make a video about the best pitcher of all time, Walter Johnson.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
I'm starting to suspect that the person commenting this is, in fact, Walter Johnson.
@averyplote7148
@averyplote7148 11 ай бұрын
Loved this video! Would love to see more technical videos like this one!
@alex47927
@alex47927 11 ай бұрын
This is exactly the video I needed. I could see the difference in the sweeper but was so confused by how, honestly this vid is so awesome, happy to be a patron
@decker528
@decker528 11 ай бұрын
It's just a slurve with the ball being held a just little farther back in the hand
@athleticgeek1
@athleticgeek1 11 ай бұрын
Interesting... didn't think about using a deeper grip from the same arm slot to get that movment. I had a 1-7 curve and all I had to do is drop my arm angle to 3/4s and it would act like what we called a slurve in the 90s.
@decker528
@decker528 11 ай бұрын
@@athleticgeek1 I know how to throw stuff, I just can't do it myself🤣🤣
@texasranger9599
@texasranger9599 11 ай бұрын
So where do Slurves play in the Slider spectrum?
@ricardoamaya2500
@ricardoamaya2500 11 ай бұрын
Most of this went over my head, but I loved every second of it
@ButterflyBlood
@ButterflyBlood 11 ай бұрын
one of the best episodes ever! this is what baseball is all about
@amm6112
@amm6112 11 ай бұрын
I guess you could say this pitch is “sweeping the nation”
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
you could say that. I wouldn't say that. but you could say that.
@amm6112
@amm6112 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball you can’t stop me Bailey.
@JaredGoofball
@JaredGoofball 11 ай бұрын
@@amm6112 you are dabbling too far in the magic of puns. Be careful
@amm6112
@amm6112 11 ай бұрын
@@JaredGoofball I’m in too deep
@TheTEN24
@TheTEN24 11 ай бұрын
It is crazy how much this pitch has blown up. However I feel like too many guys have tried incorporating one so now hitters are adjusting and crushing a lot of them
@freeparking301
@freeparking301 11 ай бұрын
Being a Phillies fan it always nice to know that I can come to this channel and see a Bailey that does not Falter.
@hans_the_great
@hans_the_great 11 ай бұрын
I always thought of a slider as a pitch mainly with horizontal movement so I definitely learned something
@greengriffin7758
@greengriffin7758 11 ай бұрын
Foolish day let's get it
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
yup
@bullshark3771
@bullshark3771 11 ай бұрын
I threw a sweeper growing up. I considered it my slider and had a gyroscopic slider that was basically just a 12-6 curve.
@bradyking8429
@bradyking8429 11 ай бұрын
I always considered pitches with more horizontal movement were sweepers and anything with a vertical break was a curveball. Now cutters (which I always considered a fastball) are now classified as sliders. Crazy how much things have changed
@alwilsonwastheman
@alwilsonwastheman 11 ай бұрын
Dave Stieb was filthy..his sweeper/slider is still the best ive witnessed
@jarrodbrimble1433
@jarrodbrimble1433 11 ай бұрын
Great video as always Bailey. Just an interesting thing I noticed. When you discuss the raised seams and air wake it causes it sounds very similar to the conventional and reverse swing used by bowlers in cricket. Fast bowlers have been using the raised seam to swing the ball for much of the game’s history. It’s worth noting that while swing bowling has been around a long time, for much of its history bowlers did not have any idea how it worked, they just knew how to do it.
@pranavarora9976
@pranavarora9976 11 ай бұрын
I can't believe so many pitchers are getting all swept up in the hype.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
har har har
@maxgreineder9867
@maxgreineder9867 11 ай бұрын
Listen, you could be all cool and new and throw a sweeper, but you could also just be Bryce Miller and literally only throw fastball. Both work to me
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
His fastball is nasty work
@Agua-hd4jh
@Agua-hd4jh 11 ай бұрын
High spin four seam and gyro slider my beloved
@Agua-hd4jh
@Agua-hd4jh 11 ай бұрын
Side note on that, I think generally especially relatively shorter pitchers can benefit a lot from a four seam gyro kind of arsenal especially if they have a high spin rate. As that better utilizes the lower release height and higher vertical approach angle. While some taller pitchers can use those levers to throw hard sinkers and sweepers etc from a lower arm slot. Really it depends on a ton of different factors pitcher by pitcher especially how well they can spin the ball. But I hope analytics leads to increased diversity in pitching styles based on what bets suits the individual. And as a 5’9 pitcher myself I hope using a shorter height to one’s advantage as well as taller individuals helps improve baseball as a whole
@maxgreineder9867
@maxgreineder9867 11 ай бұрын
@@Agua-hd4jh I am tall and also not a pitcher, so while I can't confirm exactly what you said, it lines up with what I've heard from other pitchers. Interesting read
@NothinButRock
@NothinButRock 11 ай бұрын
The seam wake shift is probably the reasoning behind Al Alburquerque's slider being so unpredictable. As far as I know, he just gripped it and threw it and didn't care where the seams were. Also Javy Baez getting demolished in the sweeper highlights.
@JS-te2vj
@JS-te2vj 10 ай бұрын
Japan has always thrown sweepers... We've always categorised them into: Slider - sweeper H slider - faster slider V slider - downward slider Gyro slider - gyroscopic slider One seam - Darvish invented pitch
@dryerasesports
@dryerasesports 11 ай бұрын
NEW BASEBALL BITS BOYS LOCK IN
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
NEW BITS
@mukkslide27
@mukkslide27 11 ай бұрын
Jeez, a Dave Stieb and Bob Emergency overlap in one minute. Awesome stuff.
@marcuscooper8595
@marcuscooper8595 11 ай бұрын
Always love when Dave Steib can be brought up!
@Katsos44
@Katsos44 11 ай бұрын
Always been more of a mopper fan personally
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
that's when you throw a sweeper in the rain
@Baseballify
@Baseballify 11 ай бұрын
I threw a sweeper back in the day in Wiffle ball
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
yeah I mentioned your career in the video, didn't you watch the whole thing?
@Baseballify
@Baseballify 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball no my bad 😥
@IanRosevear
@IanRosevear 11 ай бұрын
Love this video, super informative and interesting
@Homie_John
@Homie_John 11 ай бұрын
Love for the goat, Dave Stieb, only a minute and 35 seconds into the video? New favorite youtuber
@KenshinPlayz57
@KenshinPlayz57 11 ай бұрын
I will add this to my pitch arsenal in wiffle ball, i'll be even more unhittable
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
Blitzball sweeper is probably nasty
@KenshinPlayz57
@KenshinPlayz57 11 ай бұрын
​​@@FoolishBaseball yeah, no one's beating mine but there sweepers are ok
@wallacecreed4746
@wallacecreed4746 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball are we ever gonna see you in the warehouse
@jakemorrison821
@jakemorrison821 11 ай бұрын
I’d rather watch baseball bits than go to my wedding
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
nothing stopping you from doing both
@cantripleplays
@cantripleplays 11 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball baseball bits needs 100% attention to be fully appreciated
@CJ-ln5dk
@CJ-ln5dk 11 ай бұрын
Possibly the best video from Follish Baseball. This guy really crushes it.
@RangeSniper23
@RangeSniper23 23 күн бұрын
I was throwing this pitch in high school. I thought it was just a weird slider because I threw side arm.it has very little drop but that ball can look like it's heading straight down the plate then it just breaks right off the plate right when you start your swing. I loved throwing this.
@nikolailyon4848
@nikolailyon4848 11 ай бұрын
why sweep when u can let the Celtics come back from 0-3
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
that's called a reverse sweep
@brandonyankees1
@brandonyankees1 11 ай бұрын
ITS A SLURVE
@pwrinnmbrs
@pwrinnmbrs 11 ай бұрын
Not sure if you mentioned him, but Jon Lester had a funky slider/cutter too. I remember when he first debuted, Remy and Orsillo were always talking about it
@pabloarevalo2268
@pabloarevalo2268 11 ай бұрын
Brother your page and content are so good it makes me emotional
@spcooper94
@spcooper94 10 ай бұрын
This was the most clear and understandable explanation of the sweeper I've ever seen. Props!
@Alexandertygreat
@Alexandertygreat 9 ай бұрын
Amazing channel, loving all things baseball rn. Do a video on teacherman swings?
@bobbyg1587
@bobbyg1587 11 ай бұрын
This is a really good video. Good job guys.
@danielc2545
@danielc2545 11 ай бұрын
Baseball nerdery and dry humor. I love it! Never change, Bailey
@Qwertisi
@Qwertisi 11 ай бұрын
So interesting, genuinely. Thanks so much!!!
@JoelSpoongler
@JoelSpoongler 11 ай бұрын
you mentioned ryan pepiot and my heart jumped. i played high school football with him, good quarterback. i was waiting for the day you would mention him
@falcon1378
@falcon1378 11 ай бұрын
Watching the braves game in person had me way confused, had no idea what a sweeper was until all of our relievers were tossing em.
@rashiroselin
@rashiroselin 11 ай бұрын
New baseball bits on my birthday >>>>>>>>
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
happy birthday!
@Warum.2439
@Warum.2439 11 ай бұрын
Been using this pitch for over 10 years. Glad it’s gaining popularity. You need the duality of vertical and horizontal break
@hkgcgsdhjgd
@hkgcgsdhjgd 2 ай бұрын
I am continually amazed by the scientific and technological breakthroughs that are happening in the game of baseball. It just goes to show that when nerds and jocks are able to set aside their differences and join forces, they can accomplish some incredible things.
@Bengal
@Bengal 11 ай бұрын
I saw Sweeper in the title and I thought this was a dedicated sponsor video for BROOMS
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 11 ай бұрын
Gonna get that Swiffer Wetjet code someday
@IDL716
@IDL716 11 ай бұрын
Collab!
@Tevatron044
@Tevatron044 11 ай бұрын
The theory of a Sweeper modified slider is exactly the same idea as Swing Bowling in cricket, used for years. I had Indian friends when i played that taught me this and i would try to implement it into my game. I like to think that i did, but i never had the technology to prove it or measure it. Good to know i was on the right track and like i always tell myself before i go to bed, I should've stuck to baseball
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