BEST VALUE VR HEADSET FOR 2025! A Flight Simmer's OPINION! Which is YOUR NEXT UPGRADE? MSFS 2024 +

[@ianw0000]

Thanks

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou!

[@justbrowsing5279]

After learning of not only the QC problems, but the Customer service problems at Pimax, there's no review that could temp me to buy from them. I'm not annoyed that you call it the bang for buck king, because you did mention it has quality control issues. I would say adding a statement about customer service concerns would be nice as well. You shouldn't have to be a member of a youtube content creator's discord to get noticed by customer service. I'm happy to get less bang for my buck if it makes it more likely I'll get a defect free product. So far for me, as a light flight simmer looking for his first vr headset, it's between the quest 3 and one of the crazy expensive ones. I would like to hear a discussion on customer service and QC on the super expensive ones. I don't mind paying if I can also rest assured that it's a reliable product that the company stands behind.

[@ThorNjord]

I ordered mine, and paid for it, months ago. Never got it. They don’t even bother answering my emails where I ask them for a status update. I’m sorry @vrflightsimguy, but you have to rethink recommending Pimax.

[@richardnoall3758]

Spot on mate, great if you can order it, it has no defects and doesn't fail in the first couple of years. I don't think this should be recommended to the public until they sort their QC and support department out. Having to go for support through Discord and Reddit to get something resolved is just crazy.

[@Will_Dragon]

For the Pimax Crystal Light, added weights, head strap and facial interface addons from Studioform and it is very comfortable for me now. Had an issue with the lenses, they replaced them quickly for me and now I have no issues at all. Works extremely well in MS Flightsim and American Truck Simulator.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I agree!

[@N972MK]

I agree with you if you disregard the quality control at Pimax, but I don't think that can be disregarded because it appears to affect so many people. I ordered the PCL thru a local dealer and had to send it back three times due to lens issues. Gave up in the end and went for a Quest 3 instead. With Virtual Desktop I'm a very happy simpilot and personally I think the Quest3 is the best value headset at the moment. Appreciate your channel and opinions tho :) Happy holiday!

[@a5cent]

This is the only reasonable way to ever purchase a Pimax headset. Put somebody else in between yourself and Pimax who can handle customer service properly. If you hadn't done that you'd probably be in a world of hurt.

[@N972MK]

@@a5cent ​ Yeah the customer service at the local dealer was awesome. Sent it back and received a new headset within a week. 3 times :) Unfortunately they did not have only lenses in stock tho, so I had to return the whole headset each time.

[@EritoKaio]

@@a5cent yeah... while the support itself was responsive for me and helpful, the amount of time it took for them to send new lenses was over a month and one of the new lenses was also bad so i sent it back... also taking over 2 weeks for the refund to happen. I switched to triple screens just now and used the refund money to build a sim rig.

[@a5cent]

@@EritoKaio Oh my word. I understand giving up on VR after such a hassle. It's just insane how many seem to have had problems.

[@a5cent]

@@N972MK I seriously wonder how Pimax can even make money with so many lens related issues, given that's the most expensive component by far.

[@Savage_Viking]

I'm in the category of not looking for value. I simply want the best. Every two to three years is upgrade time for me. However, that said, thank you for your reviews of all things VR.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Much appreciated! :)

[@Farabian.89]

No matter how much we thank you, It seems not enought for the incredible effort you are putting out there .. Your channel is one of the best for VR and the community of flight simmers. Your honesty and attention to details are hard to match. Thank you steve, you deserve it 👏. I am really hoping that Pimax doesn't screw it up with the crystal super!! Have a good day mate.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You've made my day thankyou so much. That really means so much. Best wishes.

[@JDVVV378]

The best bang for your bucks is for me the Pico 4. The headset is so comfortable , the Quest 3 is nice to wear for longer times. happy holidays!

[@jameshall5835]

Very nice. I own the Pimax Crystal and am now waiting for a replacement, so there’s that. 2025 is shaping up to be amazing too with new SFF headsets. Making the scene ! Maybe another headset is in my future ! 😊

[@bobeyes3284]

I waited exactly 1 year for a 8KX warranty replacement. The day the replacement arrived I put it on ebay. No way I'm dealing with them again. Wishing you the best of luck.

[@tonyf9076]

Merry Christmas Steve, hope you and yours have a good un. Here's to 2025 👍🏻

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Tony you too 😊

[@kevinjackson9156]

Best vfm for me is my G2 which stays until it breaks because it's paid for. Can't justify the cost of the latest high-end headsets.

[@SnowTiger45]

I agree the Reverb G2 is an awesome headset UNTIL you have Windows 11 which sadly, I have had since it came out so a recent update killed it. It's a really expensive Paper Weight now.

[@virtualinsanity2457]

Had g2 for a year.. no end of issues.. now on quest 3 with pretty much same clarity but so easy to use and has lots of other fun features. Feels like an upgrade due to how good it works.

[@cammy9r]

I hated my g2. Nice sound and comfort but that tiny sweet spot.... horrible. At first I thought it was faulty but that is how they are. And no matter how careful I was the cable stilled failed. Just sits near mint in a box, waste of £500 really and too late to sell it.

[@HandlewithCare411]

​@SnowTiger45 I reinstalled windows at the 23h2 version which keeps it running just fine.

[@mauricecox7954]

Merry Christmas Steve and Melisa

[@guvnormclean]

Pico 4 is brilliant with Virtual Desk Top . had one for over a year and the G2 reverb .

[@manu_le_maboul]

I went for the quest 3 to replace my G2, it's affordable and leave me enough of what I saved to get a new GPU to replace my old trusty 2080TI; I exclusively fly VFR plus I also play other VR games besides flight simulation so it made sense indeed. I don't mind the binocular overlap, I got used to it rather quickly and I don't notice the screendoor effect at all. I also didn't want to take a gamble with pimax' quality control.

[@sirids4162]

I have ordered my Pimax Crystal light and it’s due on Xmas eve. Spent many an hour pondering, and I’ve taken the plunge for that one to replace the Reverb G2. Thanks for all the info👍

[@RE-zz7tr]

I have a reverb g2 and just put a down payment on a pimax super…….I’m thinking about canceling the order and getting a pimax light. Was the super in your consideration? Even though I put money down on the super, I’m still trying to justify the additional 1200.00 expense over the Light.

[@user-zt1er1uj6i]

Can you help at all? I have this in basket just now, subscription or membership fee per month after buying unit. What is the membership fee for? Did you have to do a membership fee? Thank you.

[@sirids4162]

@@user-zt1er1uj6i You have 14 days to try the Pimax basically, and free use of the software, after the 14 days then the subscription is required which can be paid in one go or per month.

[@sirids4162]

@@RE-zz7tr The super wasn’t in my list tbh, it was the Sonium I was thinking of, may go that way one day, but couldn’t justify it at the moment.

[@jay6817]

AUS: Pimax Crystal Light - $1,679.00 · ‎5-day delivery · ‎30-day returns. Fixed seat sims mostly for me - cable is OK really. Quest 3 - $799.99 $1,050 · ‎Free delivery · ‎14-day returns. Freedom of cables mostly (need to charge a lot) - Can do just about a good a job, and via WiFi6 dedicated router not much loss of throughput, and it's built in GPU handles the distributed load. For me, it's the Q3, straight up, but as I have a Q2, hmmm then again. But I must justify the cost to the internal accountant ;-)

[@EmesiS]

Hey Steve...Hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year. I'm still rockin the Q3 and happy with it. Maybe next year I'll think about the Pimax Light, but right now it's all good with the Q3. Cheers!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou buddy, the Q3 is so good these days, Keep it and enjoy it. Have a wonderful Christmas!

[@sascenturion]

Thanks for the video and all the hard work creating the content for us over the past year.. 😊👍 A wonderfull happy christmas and all the best for the new year to youself and mellisa and the family 👍

[@agordon20024]

The problem with Pimax Crystal Light cutting out is caused by the face gasket slipping up a tiny bit and partially covering the sensor in front of your nose. I had the same problem until I noticed the obstruction issue. It was moved from the desired position by putting my thumb there to remove the headset. A small dab of super glue solved the problem and I've had no further instances of disconnection since.

[@jackr.749]

Great Video Steve. I have to agree with your list as long as the Pico 4 can be had cheaply, it uses the XR2 Gen 1 chip thus slower PCVR streaming decoding (same with Quest 2), whereas the Quest 3 uses the newer XR2 Gen 2 chip which decodes quite a bit faster. This meaning there will be more visually apparent compression with the Pico 4. As for the Quest 3, it truly is a amazing HMD for it's price point, I'd even go as far as saying visually in MSFS 2020, it's almost on par with the Reverb G2, the G2 might have a little better clarity (DP cable connection) but the optics of the Q3 are so much better. The Pimax Crystal Light is a whole different story, the resolution, pixel density and overall visuals cannot be beat at that price point, not only the clarity, but the colors and black levels for QLED panels is impressive due to it's local dimming. Oh yes, to any readers thinking of a Quest 3 S, please do yourself a favor and get the real Quest 3 with the pancake lenses, getting the "S" will probably leave you with buyer's remorse shortly after getting it, yes, as Steve said, the Quest 3's pancake lenses are the best in the business and the Quest 3 S has fresnel lenses which will leave you high and dry! LOL

[@pwhitey]

Thanks for the video Steve. I'm happy to say that I have ordered a Pimax crystal light to replace my 8KX and hope to receive it soon. Thanks for all of your work over the past year, I know that it is part time for you along side your full time job. Have a great Christmas and all the best for the new year.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's great congrats, please do let me know how you get on with it. The FOV will be a shock at first, but you will love the increase in clarity and colours. Thankyou for the kind words, it's been such a busy year I'm looking forward to a break. Have a great Christmas and New Year buddy.

[@stevetb7777]

Do let us know your thoughts coming from 8KX

[@pwhitey]

I’m sorry to say that Pimax’s lack of quality control and ineptitude has struck again. I ordered the headset and the lighthouse faceplate and DMAS headphones. They sent the headset and faceplate but no headphones. When I deboxed the headset and looked at the lenses, one lens had no film protection, it was stuck to a bit of packaging, the other lens was half covered. I then noticed that as I moved the headset, something inside was rattling. It will have to be replaced. Update, the headphones will come separately, currently in mainland China!

[@stevetb7777]

@@pwhitey Oh my!!!! So sorry! Thanks for coming back... let us know how the replacement goes!

[@pwhitey]

A replacement will not be necessary removing the faceplate solved the problem. I’m loving the increased resolution over the 8KX, the reduced FOV is a fair exchange, I’ll get used to it.

[@TRX25EX]

To me always will be Quest 3, it's best value in history of VR if you ask me because it's first true mainstream MR headset which means it can do much more than just PCVR. If someone want PCVR only then definitely Crystal Light

[@SnowTiger45]

The only downside to the Quest 3 is supporting META and the little bowl-cut jerk that owns it. I don't want anything to do with META however, I would have gladly purchased a Q3 this last week "IF" Pimax would refund me for the headset they haven't even shipped yet. I'm not made of money.

[@laserob]

I’m sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I’ve been enjoying the heck out of my Quest Pro in MSFS for over 2 years now. Easy to glance down at controls with its open face design. No pressure on cheeks. Can play long sessions without much eye strain and fatigue. Yeah it was pricey at the time, but I feel I’ve gotten enjoyment out of it. Quest 3 is now the logical better option, but still loving the Pro.

[@dtz1000]

@@laserob The two big problems with the Quest Pro are that the resolution is even lower than the Quest 2 and the binocular overlap is even worse than the Quest 3 which is already bad enough.

[@Pe11ePD]

For me, the most important feature of all of these headsets is frame reprojection method and quality. I still hear Oculus/Meta ASW is on the top, and of course Virtual Desktop. I also heard Varjo have maybe even better frame reprojection algorithm, but the only option for me - Aero, is not a great choice since Varjo decided to ditch the support for it. I'm not sure how is Pimax's motion smoothing method, let me know, especially comparing to VD and Oculus ASW. Still it's impossible to achieve native frame rate in flight sims (Aerofly FS 4 is an exception, but it's far from a serious sim), frame reprojection is, for me, a crucial feature as I can't stand seeing individual frames/choppiness at 45fps even, let alone 36. Although choppiness at 45fps is with Quest 2, maybe it's way better and smoother in Pimax or Aero. Let me know. Taking all the facts above, I think, for me personally, the best choice is Varjo Aero, Quest 3, or even Pico 4.

[@jJustPlayingNZ]

Looking at pricing in New Zealand it's the Pico 4 I think $800 (Quest 3 with good strap - $1,100; Pimax Crystal Light - unobtainable or ship from overseas at around $2,000 all up)

[@jamesleicher]

there is a game shop that has stock coming in Australia,i get back to you on name ,not sure they ship to you.for Pimax

[@jJustPlayingNZ]

@@jamesleicher Thanks for that. However, Australia to New Zealand with conversion and shipping and probable extra tax coming in to NZ usually ends up costing more. Best way is to get direct from China, sometimes they give free shipping as well. I usually try to buy from a NZ local supplier to get proper support. Things like this are just one of the minor irritations of living way down here. ⛄

[@jamesleicher]

@@jJustPlayingNZ i would wait until pimax improves their QC and customer support.

[@JM1701ABCD]

Went from a Crystal to Quest 3

[@dtz1000]

@@JM1701ABCD Why the downgrade?

[@JM1701ABCD]

@@dtz1000​​⁠Wasn’t a downgrade. The build quality of the Crystal was lacking. Have had the G2, Quest 2, Varjo Aero, and Crystal….of all those the Pimax was the worst built and had to RMA my first due to the audio wire issue. Quest 3 on Wifi 6 with virtual desktop delivers nearly the same experience with a vastly superior build quality and better customer service.

[@eddyb72]

Another great video. I'm on a ASUS ROG SCAR STRIX laptop with an AMD Ryzen 9 and a RTX3080 video card. At this moment i'm still running windows10 because i find it hard to say goodbye to my Reverb G2. I also own a Quest3. Running fs2024 on windows 10 with my reverb G2, i get a descent performance. Sometimes i wonder how much performance i have to trade in when i go to Windows 11 and use my Quest3 with remote desktop Since my Reverb will turn into a paperwieght when i do so.. :D Will my gaminglaptop still be enought to get a decente performance. Maybe one day i will have to try. :D For now, enjoy your holliday season and i hope to see some more of your great videos in 2025!

[@slipperysherman2670]

PICO 4 gives me countless issues with pcvr i don't have the router near my pc so bad and in cabled mode it doesnt play well with my 7900xtx

[@Janninatore]

I have the quest 3 as do it all headset but am considering getting something wired for sims. But Pimax is such a shady company I just cannot imagine buying from them. And apparently they stopped selling on amazon (at least here in germany) which would give me the peace to just try it and send it back if there are any problems. But there is no way I'll order from Pimax directly. I'd have considered the Bigscreen but I sold my basestations and controllers so the pricetag is just too high to consider it given the disadvantages. And the somnium is yet to hit the market so no idea about QC and it's 2k+€ :D

[@acurisur]

Quest 3 wins for me over the others you mentioned because as you said it has the best pancake lenses in the business, plus the software updates. A recent update added a Mixed Reality cutout for your yoke so you can see that while still being in VR. While I did already have that function in Virtual Desktop, having it in the OS is a massive plus and really shows that Meta knows it's customers.

[@jorgejesus3403]

I have the quest 3 for 1 month, and I love it, despite the fact that the battery runs out even with the pc link cable on, the battery drain speed in Half life alix for example, is greater than the charging speed provided by the pc link cable.

[@loiphin]

Can you do a review on Beat Saber with the Somnium VR1 please Steve ;)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

😁

[@natecontarino1748]

Pimax never honored their warranty. I am stuck with a defective Crystal Light. First they responded to my ticket in Chinese. Then they didn't believe me. I described the defect in detail and they kept saying, "I'll send you the controller" which shows they aren't even reading what I wrote. Then when I asked for a refund they said they would only give me $600. I paid $937. I gave up because if I sent it to them, I may never see a return or refund. They were clearly blowing it off and trying to get me to give up. Enjoy your new free HMDs though Steve.

[@natecontarino1748]

Also, this was sold as new and not B stock. It was obviously previously used and returned.

[@adrianstealth340]

Had to sell my quest 3 on eBay as massive eye strain , I’m back using quest 2 which is fine on my eyes , I think it could be that overlap problem

[@acurisur]

Try removing the Quest 3 eye gasket. It was the opposite way around for me, the Quest 2 strained my eyes way more than the Quest 3 as none of the 3 fixed positions for IPD were correct for my face. Also Fresnel lenses are pretty much proven to strain your eyes faster due to the small sweet spot.

[@RSProduxx]

I was pretty sure to get the Quest 3 soon. I didn´t change my mind. It´s within my budget and should do the job :)

[@mikeyports100]

got my pimax two days ago fantastic picture but tracking did not work for £800 i exected it to work went back to amazon pity but unuseable

[@hornfan722]

Thanks for another great video sir. Can someone PLEASE tell me where he is at 8:48 holy moly I want to fly there :)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thank you :) I can't remember now sorry 😕

[@davidkennedy7549]

Hmmm...I'm all set to go from Oculus 3 to Primax light but really don't want to deal with quality issues. I also won't know if they aren't 100% right, as I've never looked through a pair. I just got upgraded wifi, 800mps, is that fast enough to make the switch from Link Cable to Virtual Desk Top (I tried at 380mps and it was not faster)? Can anyone chime in if I should switch at the 800mps mark?

[@Mark_Point]

Quest 3 owner, I like it but I want to try the high Res experience. Just can't quite bring myself to take the risk with pimax so I'm waiting for other things, mainly the quality control but they just seem to be tripping over themselves all the time, with new products and options that never seem to ship. Perhaps I will just save enough for a vr1

[@Mellonpopr]

great video...I've been wanting a pimax crystal for a very long time and thee Crystal Light is very enticing but I keep reading about current QC issues. The Crystal Super ticks all the check boxes for what I want in a next gen VR setup that was be future proofed somewhat but they haven't earned my trust. Which company can I go with that meets or exceeds Pimax Crystal Super in every aspect (software, hardware, quality control, support, price to name a few). I want to do this once and do it right the first time, I don't want to have to deal with support nightmares and gamble on getting a good unit or not.

[@FemboyWeebAstolfo]

People got annoyed with me saying it too but the Pimax Crystal Light is the true bang for your buck for pcvr gaming

[@guvnormclean]

Not annoyed its just massive and looks like its still from 2018 .lol each to their own

[@user-zt1er1uj6i]

Can you help at all I have this in basket just now, subscription or membership fee per month after buying unit. What is the membership fee for? Did you have to do a membership fee? Thank you.

[@AnimatrsiX]

Yes your right everyone wants one (PCL) including me but we work hard for our money and dont want drama (quality control) from the get go!

[@bigbangerz5856]

It really is right now, that will change but as of Q4 2024 and Q1 2025 I do agree

[@okkimakki]

⁠yes, you need the membership in order to have a functional headset

[@bakzetary3145]

Steve; you must be on Holiday break making all these cool videos in a row, thanks! ONE MORE MONTH wait; you know what I mean: then I'll finally get the full experience out of the Crystal Light, he, he! (A 3080Ti just does not cut it for 35ppd rez.)

[@chrisdavies4323]

Pico 4 I got a few weeks back to replace the g2, running a 4080super, 64gb and a 9800x3d. Looks ok, with spacewarp rarely see under 90fps

[@FlightSims-v4p]

I can only compare the Valve Index and the PCL. The Valve has frenell lenses and god rays but was very dependable and considering the abuse I gave it from dropping it x amount of times it held up very well. I just sold it and brought the PCL. It was a serious upgrade but the quality control - my headset wont wake up on que. I have to restart it for gameplay. So it was a trade off.

[@eugenebeck9210]

Great video! Do the high end headsets but include the MS8K so you can trigger a few people! 🤣🤣

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You know I don't need asking twice right? 😅 Have a wonderful Christmas mate

[@johncrichton4341]

YAY!! GO PICO!!!

[@flightlinevr6302]

Yay, Pico User here

[@seattime4075]

Q3 due to it's passthrough for cockpit users. Cannot go back to being 'blind'

[@naijapilotxmax6006]

binacular overlap is the word i have been searching for quest 3 sucks with it

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yup :(

[@dtz1000]

PSVR2 has great binocular overlap and I find it more immersive than the Quest 3 but I've not tried it with flight sims yet.

[@acurisur]

You can improve that on the Quest 3 by removing the face gasket, very easy to do and there are demonstration videos on YT

[@acurisur]

@@dtz1000 No, no, no , I'm not buying any VR headset in 2024 that uses Fresnel lenses, even if it is an OLED display. And I'm the perfect customer for PSVR2 as I own a PS5 as well as my flight simming PC. If I want a PCVR OLED headset there's better options - BigScreen Beyond, MeganeX Superlight 8k and the Apple Vision Pro all use Micro OLED and have much better lenses.

[@dtz1000]

@@acurisur I feel the same way but with LCD instead of Fresnel.

[@Frigobar_Ranamelonico]

Hi, I can’t care less about sim, I don’t really have a budget limit. But I want an upgrade from my quest 3. What would you recommend? I’m really trying to find something better than the quest 3, but every headset seem to have huge drawbacks in comparison l. Thanks

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

'Hi, I can’t care less about sim' - You might be in the wrong place for the advice sorry.

[@Frigobar_Ranamelonico]

@ I imagine, but you seem to be one of the very few owner of most of the high end headsets who doesn’t speak as a salesmen. Could you still recommend something specifically? Hearing the part about you playing big VR games had me hoping. Thanks for the help

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@Frigobar_Ranamelonico It really depends what is most important to you in a VR headset. Funny enough, I'm typing this whilst in the Somnium VR1 (which is my fav btw). Thx for your comments.

[@Frigobar_Ranamelonico]

@ thanks

[@mastermachetier5594]

What is the upgrade for the quest 3 ? Is it worth getting the crystal light? Also what if I like to play not right next to my computer but prefer pcvr like with Virtual desktop?

[@acurisur]

Any of the top end PCVR headsets would be an upgrade from the Quest 3, so Pimax Crystal Lite, BigScreen Beyond, MeganeX Superlight 8k

[@badewannenwikinger2522]

thx for your Video. I have a question. I have a meta Quest 3 .. my coputer have 32gb DDR4 Ram, i5 13600K and a Amd Radeon 7900XT. I am sitting in a wheeliechair, and my now hobby are flysim with VR.. but.. this doesnt working so smooth for me. I use Virtual desktop, but i have sometimes so much latences(over 300)and only 2-5 fps. its unplayable. I have a 1GBit internet fiber and a wifi6 Network.but i am not alone in this. I have 3 Kids too.. but i have the same problem when they are in school. what can i do?

[@eugenebeck9210]

Check Steve's other videos about best settings for the Quest 3. He has several.

[@kangelidis]

You will have to mess with the settings , my pc is far worse than yours and i get solid 45 (90) without virtual desktop and the headset to higher res than default.

[@badewannenwikinger2522]

@@kangelidis What program did you use for VR? I have only Problems wir wifi and Virtual Desktop

[@markdavies9636]

Quest 3 is the best and cheapest all rounder. Looking to purchase the crystal super if it rocks!

[@JetlinerX]

Ive hung up the VR for a few years. I spent all of 2024 trying to get what I wanted out of VR but no matter what I did I always ran into 2 barriers. 1: Image was either blurry or aliasing was causing a ton of shimmering, or 2: If I was able to crank the settings high enough to prevent the issues in 1, my 4080 Super wasnt able to run it with enough FPS to enjoy the experience. I wish more commentators would address this stuff as I watched a lot of these types of videos all year only to realize the "dirty little secret" nobody is mentioning is that the image quality is just not there yet and the hardware is just not able to run over 4k images in real time like it needs to in VR. So unfortunately, I'm back to flatscreen with head tracking.

[@jmizzonini]

How is this possible? I have a crystal light and a 4080 and MSFS2020 runs fantastic with it. You might have just needed to tweak things bc I have no problems. What processor?? The image quality is amazing but my main gripe with VR in general is just that FoV needs to have some breakthroughs. I’m a private pilot and that’s what makes the VR experience sub par is the narrow FoV

[@JetlinerX]

@@jmizzonini I was trying to run it on high settings and the only way to get decent FPS (30-40s) was to use DLSS and even then it would struggle near the ground. But DLSS made everything SO blurry it wasnt worth it. So I did TAA on Medium and it was fine... but the shimmering in the distance, the mediocre performance, and the fact that I had to run the sim at medium when I can run at over 180 FPS on Ultra in flatscreen was just generally a bummer. Not to mention the cockpit gauges being JUST BARELY good enough to read in steam gauge planes it just wasnt worth the time and effort to keep messing with for me. I was trying this all on a Quest 3 so maybe the clarity our Pimax offers is a massive difference but because I cant be sure about that I'm not ready to spend another $800 on a "I hope this helps" purchase anymore. I literally bought my 4080S for that reason and was disappointed when it didnt really help much. Rest of the specs are i5 10600K and 32GB of RAM. There's no way upgrading either of those are going to give me the boost I need to sing the praises of VR - I simply think people are settling for mediocre visuals and not being honest about it.

[@dtz1000]

@@JetlinerX Minimum spec for Crystal Light is i5 12 series, so that's your problem.

[@JetlinerX]

@@dtz1000 Using a Quest 3, and being 2 generations out of date on a processor isnt going to unlock 60FPS randomly. Its comments like this that make people spend stupid amounts of money they dont need to to chase performance and visuals that just arent possible right now in VR.

[@askjamesland]

dude how is your dof sooo smooth? mine is soo jumpy, I gave up talking to them.

[@paulmann8675]

I understand how you think the pimax crystal is the best headset for the money Steve on paper yes it’s a fantastic headset But it’s let down with poor quality control playing the lottery to see what you get Poor customer service people waiting months for a refund I think the only really best bang for buck is the quest 3 quality control customer support ok it’s not on par with the pimax crystal specs but specs are not everything as it’s not the whole package

[@user-zt1er1uj6i]

I had the Crystal light in my basket tonight, I read about the subscription or membership fee per month after buying the headset. that put me off, does anyone know what the subscription is for?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I need to learn more about this, but that sucks! :(

[@user-zt1er1uj6i]

@@VRFlightSimGuy I will be paying £ but this is a copy ... Payment Option 1: Pay membership fee at once with 10% discount $599 upfront + $11.99 membership fee * 24 mo. * 90% = $858 USD in total

[@shawtdusanshawt]

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[@victordemaeyer2365]

Hello, my name is Victor, im from Belgium i am 50 years old. While i was saving to get my ppl, because I love everything that flies. A. Now I can't do it anymore so my only option is msfs 2020 My pc has a ryzen 7 3800 with an nvidia rtx 3060 and 32Gig ram. I recently bought a pimax Crystal Light to enjoy flying in VR, but I don't know what or how to get the best results in terms of settings. Can you help me with this? Thank you very much in advance. Mvg Victor gehad, en

[@ScorpionF1RE_USA]

"Meta Quest HDMI Link Lets You Connect DisplayPort to Meta Quest 3" Am I missing something?

[@dannymiester5825]

Quest 3 winner for me all day long

[@djalan5678]

Hi Steve, I'll be happy with the price of the pimax. However, I've been told they is a subscription to pay every month, making a lot more expensive. Not value for money for me! Thanks for the review though 👍

[@Caroline9411]

There is some misunderstanding here. Actually, the whole price will be a little cheaper than before. The original price is $899 in USA, after the Pimax Prime, the price structure is 599+ $11.99/month(24 months), then the headset will be 100% owned by you. So the price is $886

[@djalan5678]

@@Caroline9411 Thanks Caroline 👍

[@terryshields7269]

I bought a normal Crystal in April 24 from Amazon but it developed a fault in September. Pimax concluded that it needed replaced but I was still waiting in December. I got a full refund from Amazon because no replacement was available and it couldn’t be repaired. It was a great headset when it worked but my advice would be to get it from Amazon for extra peace of mind as Pimax offered to trade the £1500 Crystal for the Light!

[@shawtdusanshawt]

I had PICO 3 with DP cable, then I bought PICO 4 which I replaced with Q3 and I never looked back to PICO 4. Q3 has better lenses and clarity, sw, support. PICO 4 better comfort. Ideal would be PICO 3 with DP but with Q3 lenses.

[@simonarcher1294]

I've got a PICO 3 DP. Bloody useless, just cannot get it to run properly with DCS (5600x and a 7800xt)

[@ryanw1433]

I’ve got deep pockets Steve! Problem is they’re lightly filled 😂

[@OlivierFablu-c9m]

For me there is no discussion, the Pico 4 Ultra is much better than the Quest 3, if we only talk about PCVR, I discovered videos from a PlugAndPlay VR channel, and the performances seem incredible.

[@a5cent]

Pimax is the best! F all you haters! 🤣 If Pimax gets their customer service and QC issues in order before the MeganX Superlight comes out, they have my order for the super, but I doubt it.

[@paulsleighty]

Must be costing pimax a fortune with all these returned headsets. Shame cos it could be awesome if they could resolve the quality control issues.

[@digitalsiler]

I want sunglasses weight, Micro LED, 4 hour battery life with wireless 8K and at least a constant 60FPS I'll keep dreaming 😂😂😂

[@eugenebeck9210]

@digitalsiler the closest to that is the soon to be released Immersed Visor. Productivity headset and not for gaming, yet! It is an open software system so someone will cracked it for gaming, just it it time! 😎

[@digitalsiler]

@eugenebeck9210 we'll need an 8090 super mega TI to run it and it will cost 10K bucks

[@ji3200]

​@@eugenebeck9210 Immersive Visor don't have 3d side by side. Its only 2d so its not possible for vr

[@jimmy8x541]

Pico 4 is a great bang for the buck entry imo. PCL absolutely not. Will never support Pimax.

[@chrisoak4916]

I am desperate! What is with my Pimax Crystal (not light)? What is with comparison to other VR Heassets? Is my Crystal dead? I paid 1800 Euro one year ago!. Pimax charity? What is with youtouber like Flight Sim Guy to talk about this issue?

[@Slaintemaith]

"Opt for" the speakers?! They sell out before you're aware they're available.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It's cuz they're so popular unfortunately

[@Slaintemaith]

@@VRFlightSimGuy thankfully the Pimax fits right over my AudioTechnica headset beautifully. Almost like it was made to.

[@carlosdominguez3108]

Regular Pimax Crystal, stay away. More issues that you can imagine, and you won't realize it until you start using it.

[@kaecatlady]

I'm not at all annoyed with your choice of the Pimax Crystal Light as the best "bang for your buck" headset, Steve, because, based on what you and other VR creators say in reviews, that's the absolute truth. As you also said, however, I have absolutely no trust in Pimax's QA or CS. Worse, based on recent comments by at least one other VR-oriented KZbinr it's clear that, even if you get a "perfect" Crystal Light on your first try, if something goes wrong that has nothing to do with "wear and tear", Pimax's Customer Service won't have a clue of what to do, and will string you along while displaying that cluelessness. And that's why I'll be sticking with my Pico 4 (don't bother with the Ultra; it's not worth it) until a good headset with a proper DP comes on the scene--or it ages out.

[@justmekph145]

No bigscreen vr

[@kencoble3012]

Firstly Merry Christmas & have a great new year Have had my crystal lite now for around 3 months was my replacement for the G2...have to agree best bang for your money CL preforming great in DCS flightsim 2024 also pimax deserve some praise after a rocky start software continues to update. Communication support instant at present & again wonderful video content honestly crystal lite is a brilliant headset Would recommend to anyone .

[@cuypers1984]

I'm still on windows 10 for my G2. But it keeps disconnecting or not connect at all to the pc, o get very frustrated by it. Ordered a Quest 3 when i was angry, but actually returned it without giving it a proper go. I always feel like you are selling your soul with a Meta product. I'm lost, i still can't get over my G2 just being or going to be dead. I don't want to spend another 1K on a VR headset as i'm mostly runnig triple screen... So my only choice for now is Pico or Quest 3... Sad times in VR world

[@cammy9r]

I enjoy the pico 4 performance and hope it lasts another year at least before it needs replaced. Being wireless opened me up to other games like Alyx and Metro. For the price it was It worked better than my g2.

[@alanwright4575]

Pimax crystal light is without a doubt the most disappointing piece of tech I have EVER bought. It is a way overpriced overhyped experience. The quest 3 is by far the best route into VR gaming. Great cost ease of use and user experience over a wide range of uses. I regret selling mine every single time I put my pimax back on 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. Which is hardly ever now. Msfs2024 and pimax crystal light a marriage made in the bowels of hell. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@SuperTica22]

no doubt G2, cheap working horse i dont see any real competition.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I do not recommend the G2 anymore sadly.

[@Mellonpopr]

I loved my G2 until I upgraded my CPU and decided to do a fresh windows install and lost the ability to do any VR due to Microsoft removing Windows Mixed Reality in the latest patches

[@stevetb7777]

He says right towards the end, Crystal Light is the best G2 replacement. It does blow the G2 away, so I'm not sure how you can say no competition... especially considering the G2 has no future due to WMR being discontinued = )

[@paulmann8675]

I’ve just sold my G2 today😭😭 £90 only had it about 1 y and a half from new oh well bad choice there I guess who was to know about mixed reality bombshell 🙄 I’m putting towards a quest 3 to keep me going when my pc upgrades turn up 9800x3d😎

[@iankphone]

Windows MR is dead. Nobody should buy into an unsupported ecosystem.

[@Kir-ts8eq]

6:23 does it need more battery , for long gaming? 📟🪧💿

[@mrrm1st]

Merry Christmas Steve 🎉. Thanks for another great year of content 😀

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers mate! You too :)