Ford 10-speed TRANSMISSION 10R140 Internal GUTS opened up - Look What Happened!!

[@michaelshone2465]

Damn that is impressive. That’s a big trans. I drive garbage trucks for a living house to house and once watched our shop take apart an Allison 4500 6 speed and I couldn’t believe how HUGE it was. But seeing them apart is rare. Amazing what a good trans can hold up to. We floor it fully loaded 66,000lb, shifts 1-2, slam on the brakes, shift 2-1, auto neutral, drive, floor it, shift 1-2, slam on the brakes, shift 2-1 neutral. We do this thousands of times a day for now 7 years straight and 80% of the trucks are on the original trans. No idea how

[@RichR65Ct]

Hey" try this,slam it into 1st then slam it into 2nd and while driving down the road then slam it into reverse lol.

[@rogersavoie4570]

Great subject matter as always, I'm kind of glad I have the old 6R 140.

[@JohnDiMartino]

That’s a beefy unit. Thanks for the look inside the case and at the massive pile of hard parts. 👍

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Huge

[@InspirationDose]

2020 6.7 F-350 SRW at 130,000 miles mine does this. Harsh engagement into D or R also random shifts and sometimes loss of power/trans slips around 5th gear

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Trans time

[@toribiddle4]

Currently having the same issues with my truck, hard shift into park or drive. Dropped it off at dealer last week, said it was def a transmission problem. Bringing it back next week for trans guy to look at it. :/

[@kenneider5317]

2020 f250 with the same issue. 59,000 miles at dealership right now and they are diagnosing the problem.

[@jerryknorr679]

That is a monster of a trans. Great video ARod thanks

[@edwardkirkland686]

Beefy but still broke! I bleed Ford blue but come on FoMoCo let’s get it together!

[@Uncle_Fester24]

Great video!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Okdie

[@timmyclancy]

Mine bangs hard in to 2 gear when towing both up and down shifting. Just turned 30.000 miles and i always religiously change my trans filter at that milage for the first then every 60 after. One thing you learn from being a tech is always change fluids before the manual suggests

[@matbob7249]

I’ve got Detroit 12.7 with 18 speed eaton, 1,6 mil miles, trans fluid changed 3 times, not a single issue besides new clutch. Fluid change is overhyped Sir. Take a sample and send to lab, you’ll be surprised how much of healthy fluids you’re dumping

[@mbrown1519]

My 2020 F450 is in the shop as we speak. Some of the parts for the transmission are on back order though.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ughhhh

[@user-sq4dr3iz9o]

TSB 23-2160 will come up for CDF replacement. There's a redesigned version with a lip to prevent the issues. Wonder if they redesigned the CDE as well? Or was that the CDF in the video?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Cdf

[@Brandonpowerstroke]

That’s crazy, now reuse the filter and fluid as per Ford haha

[@codyphillips48]

😂😂😂

[@gadielsantiago8813]

One bushing to rule them all, good work on diag and getting to the root of it

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🙏🙏

[@lgg8752]

My transmission did hard shifts like that from park to drive and then reverse to park for a little bit at 7k miles. It only did it sort at random for 200 miles then went away. I have 30k miles and it's never done it again since and still shifts smooth and quick.

[@badazz2969]

Id say my 6l80e is doing great at 250k miles with 2 flushes no filter. Shes a hard shifting beast and refuses to slip right behind the ole reliable 5.3 ls.

[@jeffreyalsenz1845]

I went 250K on my 4R100 in my 2000 F350 before the truck was stolen.

[@kevinoconnell4228]

Did the plastic trans pan hold up the unit on a stand?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes..

[@robspear6004]

I am anxiously awaiting your video on how to change the fluid in the 10R140 and how to check the level. What??!! No dipstick?

[@efaraday4]

Has there been a fluid fill video yet?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No

[@sergeifil6990]

Good day. Is it possible to change 5R110 to 10R140? Is the bell the same?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Lolol absolutely not!

[@SLICKW1993]

I have a 22 F350 with the 6.7. When I turn on the exhaust brake it jerks hard when I come to a stop, have you come across this? When I turn it off, doesn’t do it.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Might need to update pcm calibration

[@SLICKW1993]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod This needs to be done at dealer? Or is there something like Forescan or OBD scanner I can use?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Dealer

[@SLICKW1993]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thank you for your help! Amazing that you’ve been more help then the dealer. I keep telling them it’s not a transmission problem. They want to try to send it to the transmission techs instead of flashing the PCM. The dealerships here in Houston are backed up, some dealers can’t look at it. If worst came to worse would doing a hard reset on the PCM help?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yea, we can maybe try

[@g-man2228]

Beast mode for sure…

[@jeffreycastillo170]

I left the dealer about a year ago and now i wanna go back just to work on these. 😂

[@MrDraper38]

4:26 in us my issue. My 2020 F250 7.3 Godzilla 10 speed has been at the dealer for 5 weeks. Part finally came in. We'll see been apart for 5 weeks. Hope other issues don't arise since it's being totally put back together after sitting around for 5 weeks.

[@JordanWest-s6b]

Has this issue been addressed on newer 10r140’s

[@WHavriloRT]

21BO3 only for the trans matted to the diesel? I have the 7.3 gas which is why I’m asking.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Although the customer satisfaction program 21B03 States certain 2020 model year super duty F250 thru F600 vehicles equipped with a 10R140 transmission number one planetary and ring gear assembly it States this program is only applicable to vehicles with 6.7 l diesel engines

[@WHavriloRT]

Thank you for the quick reply brother.

[@artemioarellano4940]

But why did you replaced the unit, usually the CDF drum is the cause of failure, sometimes burnt clutches.

[@TerryParker-u9n]

Got a question. When you do a rebuild does it fix this issue with the transmission or will it have the same issue again over time? What is the true fix for this?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I don't know, buddy. It's going to depend on what failed and if they have updated parts or not

[@diamondhead203]

10R140 is 330lbs. It’s a light duty transmission. It’s actually small for a 10 speed transmission. For example …the 6 speed Aisin AS69RC in the Ram is 400lbs without fluids. That is a big transmission.

[@TheArlo420]

Exactly what williamGT said. I have a 2022 7.3 and get intermittent rough shifts mainly in 6, 7, and 8. Some days it's flawless, while others the clunk resurfaces and happens several times during operation. I only get the slamming from park to drive if I don't wait a few seconds after starting. Wondering if I should be concerned now or wait until the transmission craps out just beyond warranty coverage...

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Come see me for updates

[@nainarkumar]

Hello, Thanks for your shown video for 10R140, Can you provide video with working prince as well as assembling. Thanks, Great job. God bless you.

[@gsibertjr]

Question. I have a 2022 f250 6.7 and 10r transmission. I have 25,000 miles on it. Should I have transmission filter and fluid changed or just do a power flush of fluid? I can see pros and cons of both, but wondering what your thoughts are.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Drain & fill, thats it.

[@jimm2442]

You could not have chosen better than when you decided to work on Fords. You have a secure and lucrative future.

[@gbaby3339]

Well the good thing with ford, they offer revised parts and fixes to problems. When your 10 speed is overhauled it gets updated with revised parts. Ive been doing CDF drums, and planent cylinders, valve bodies. Etc here lately ive been seeing incorrect T3 shim measurements from the builder causing planets to grind together more so 10R80 f150s. A good trans tech that knows whats up will have your 10 speed fixed. I only overhaul i never replace unless its over 120,000 miles. Only problem ive seen with “revised parts” is the 6R80,6R140 overdrive clutch drum friction weld leaks or breaks completely.

[@dirtrider1092]

What’s the out the door cost for this in a 2020 4x4 DRW

[@SVTPerformance]

Makes you miss the ZF-6.

[@williamGT]

I have 2022 7.3 and the tranny shifts hard in 6,7,8 gears.

[@shaneoakley8757]

Mercon LV in transfer case or would you recommend anything different?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

LV is what it takes now

[@shaneoakley8757]

Roger that.

[@williamallen8913]

My 10r140 in my 2021 shifts hard into drive and once in a while shift hard I to 3rd 5th gears as well

[@imsicke1]

Where is your shop located and do you honor ford warranty? I have a late build 2020 with this exact same problem. I took it to the dealership and they said the jump I get from park to drive is normal because of how much torque the truck produces. I'm happy I found your video but I'm irate right now at ford!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Detroit and nope, left the dealer and have my own shop. No more warranty work for me

[@imsicke1]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod is there any special way to force ford to look at it?

[@imsicke1]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod are there any dtcs that get generated?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Not usually just that symptom

[@chrissargent2603]

Nice, I have a customer complaining about that. We could never duplicate it. Did this truck have a wrench light or cel on for this concern? Or was it strait symptom chart diag?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No lights, no warnings....diagnosed by symptom. Tear down time.....

[@disgracebook5708]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod An actual diagnosis not involving the computer? That’s manufacturer heresy as everything that needs to be known about these electronic nightmares is in the repair manual🤯. Seriously, excellent video & true diagnosis.

[@HOONIQUAD]

been having hard shifts mostly between 6th and 7th in my 2020 6.7. (76,000 miles) Also 9th and 10th gear seems to "drop down and the shift back up kind of seems like a half shift or something. Trans software was just updated. Cant get to Ford until end of July. Any tips.?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hmmmm has it* even been opened up

[@HOONIQUAD]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what is ut.?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Has it...

[@HOONIQUAD]

No never opened up. Seems to shift fine when below 180 degrees.. but when towing it shutters and shifts hard

[@ryanbell4895]

2020 F250 Diesel 10k miles, just sent it to the shop for a complete replacement. Hard shifting and eventually wouldn’t got into reverse or forward. Sample of fluid was silvery red. Not a happy day.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Sorry pal. What was your build date if ya don't mind...

[@bryanthornton6787]

I have a '22 F250 with the 7.3 and mine had a "clunk" when it hits about 2.5mph after start up. No clunking from stop and go driving. It also doesnt matter if it first start up of the day or just stopping for gas and getting back on the road. Have you ever heard of this symptom?

[@vinnyk3245]

Hello did you find the answer for the “clunk” you mentioned? I have 2021 f250 7.3 also and I does the exactly the same thing you mention🤦🏻‍♂️ took to dealer and said that normal, I call it BS.

[@bryanthornton6787]

@@vinnyk3245 Nope. The dealer I bought it from said it was normal but didn't know what it was doing to make the noise. Dealer number two had it for two weeks at a time for a total of six weeks. They said they couldn't find where it was coming from and told me there wasn't any need to bring it back cause they weren't making any money off of it.

[@Go2Sleep911]

Where is the vid on how to fill this 10speed transmission on a drain and fill. No dipstick blows my mind

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Stay tuned bub

[@MrDraper38]

I've had problems. And they replaced a other part to only habe it shift worse. Tech took apart and sent me a picture of the same thing you showed. Said it was lower than it should be.

[@mikehumble-k4e]

My 2020 f250 tremor 10r140 transmission is banging into gear and not taking off from a stop couple times a day just random times

[@user-sq4dr3iz9o]

My 2020 had all the crazy things happening. It's the CDF drum. Bring it in A.S.A.P. There's a tsb out for it and a redesigned CDF drum fix. Mine shifts like butter now.

[@jnuechte]

It blows me away how many people buy first model year vehicles, and then are amazed or upset when issues happen. I work in product development and would NEVER buy a redesigned anything. I also loved how everyone said the super duty 10speed would be an easy copy past for Ford since the 150 10 speed had already been out for several years. Again, obviously these people don't understand how product development works. Thanks for sharing!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

........wow

[@jnuechte]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I will mention I am a super duty owner. When I got word from a friend that worked in Ford powertrain development that the 10 speed was confirmed for 2020, I quickly jumped and ordered my 2019. So happy with the truck!!! Ford will get the kinks worked out, usually takes about 3-4 years on an item like a transmission.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I can feel ya on dat!

[@gregsparks858]

Have a 2021 F450 7.3 gas 4.88. How do I find out the build date on my 10R140 ? Noisey! Truck was built in Kentucky May 2021 know that much but they can't seem to find Tranie build date.. Thanks

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Email me with vinny

[@johnmattu7262]

I commented on the 10 spd to you about 6 months ago about any known issues, because of one I was aware of in a 21 450. It would at speed in 10th, violently downshift 3 to 5 gears at once for no reason. I have heard of several others with issues also. Where's our MAN peddle? LOL

[@ColeyCLogan]

So, have a 2020, F550, 10 speed down shifts when in tow hall, not from 10 th but maybe jumps from 8th or so. Happens unpredictable but when towing a 20 K RV. Have not noticed it jump or skip down. But that may give me a thing to watch for. I just feel the slam and the rig shake - slow down. Need more info if someone has a useful point or how to find dealer with transmission tech on staff to work on 10 speed.

[@TeamNiem]

What does Ford state as operating temp range for the 10 speed behind the 6.7?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Going to vary depending on usage

[@armedprophet3321]

Hey Arod, on the side that you use to fill if you are doing an overhaul, that “plug” has a little dip stick attached. Could we use that when us regularly guys want to check trans fluid level ?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ehhhh....ima have to get back 2 u on that....

[@xforce687]

I believe on the super duty it's only a plug, no dipstick. You have to pull the "overflow" plug on the left side at temp while running an make sure it has a drip to be considered "full." Kind of similar to the cars. I could be wrong but I serviced 10 speed super duty that went thru high water a couple months back and that's how the workshop said to check it.

[@bretmarstellar603]

You can add fluid through the dipstick location, same as on the F150 10R80 transmission.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I know

[@robspear6004]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Well, the 10R80 in my Navigator has a dip stick. If my F450 does I've yet to find it. Hmmmmm. How does one add fluid if one doesn't know the level to which to add?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

One would have to follow the fill procedure in the WSM

[@robspear6004]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Unfortunately I don't know what a WSM is. Some sort of service manual? If so, for what is the "W"?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Workshop manual...

[@Kevin-yc4kg]

Have done 5 21b03 recalls so far all 4wd and all front planets were ok I consider them gravy

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thats awesome

[@denverbasshead]

Mine only lurches when I don't let it warm up for a little while, if I cold start and immediately put it into drive or reverse it lurches hard. Its because it idles at like 1,500 rpm on a cold start. Once it's down to 1k it will never lurch

[@newtonbaker3932]

I have a 21 6.7 F550 with that 10r140. 155,000 miles on it. The transmission is slipping in 10th gear while under load. I pull a 53 foot flatbed car trailer that weighs 7700 pounds empty. If I run in ninth gear, I don’t seem to have a problem but once I’m in 10th gear and starting to pull a slight grade, the transmission starts to slip and the RPMs jump about 2 or 300 RPM and the truck jerks, but as soon as I come off the accelerator it goes away. I took it to my transmission shop in Temecula California. The technician could not replicate the slip in 10th gear because he did not have my trailer. So they decided to replace the valve body. I picked the truck up from the shop on 6/1, loaded two vehicles on the trailer and started heading east. The transmission felt fine until Flagstaff Arizona, where I decided to once again, slip in 10th gear. I decided to continue on with my trip, and the truck ran fine until Springfield Missouri where it decided to start slipping more often in 10th gear. I talked to my transmission technician on the phone multiple times and he’s called other transmission shops that he’s worked with in the past and they are not sure what it could be. I will be reloading in Ohio and heading back to California to drop the truck back off at the transmission shop so that they can fully pull it apart and see what the problem is. From what I’ve read on the inter-webs, the only thing I can discern is that it might be the torque converter the oil pump or the clutch pack that holds 8th 9th and 10th gear. any insight from you guys would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Truck is not presenting any DTCs

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Time for trans work. Probably CDF bushing

[@user-sq4dr3iz9o]

​@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodCDF "DRUM" with bushing assembly...

[@user-sq4dr3iz9o]

There's a tsb for the newly designed CDF drum. If you're lucky they might fix it now charge as it's a known issue. I would call them out and see what they say. Worth a shot as the old design is CLEARLY acknowledged as a MAJOR FAIL part ad they redesigned it and it's happening on ALL of them after 2-3 years of use.

[@curtisbull1583]

One of a couple issues that worry me about my new 21 f350. Seems 100% stupid to me to not have a dipstick and have a serviceable trans. If possible, I will find a way to service mine often. Thanks for the videos, so for the videos I've watched from you are very informative.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks Curtis, we really appreciate that

[@disgracebook5708]

Agree, as a fleet admin, Fords decision to eliminate a trans dipstick is madening.

[@ocj921]

Mine shifts hard from park to 1st and from park to reverse. Feels like if someone hit you fron the back/front at a low speed. Have an appointment at the dealer to look at.

[@nursultantrio321]

I am replacing my second 10th trans now . Also had 3 engine replacements 2020 450

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Whaaaaaa

[@nursultantrio321]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod 2020 f450 lariat . Purchased it in 2019 December. ( first issue was oil filter switch . Fixed it then trans went out at 70 k and the engine at 90 k miles . They also had to replace the new engine before putting it in so it would be 3 engines . Now I have it at 140 k miles . The second trans is dying . Feels like someone ran into you from behind when it shifting gears . I have been extremely taking care of truck . Oil changes every 4-5 k miles fuel filters air filters . All the differential fluids been always changed before what Manual says . I drove Ford 350s for a company since 2015 to thus year and never had such a issues on the road especially doing hot shot . I feel so unlucky with Ford motor company even I would pick power stroke over Cummins any day .

[@nursultantrio321]

First issue was oil pressure switch . Sorry

[@nursultantrio321]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank you for the video . Finally I was able to see how this shit looks like lol

[@F450FTW]

My 450 came today. A video on servicing the 10R140 would be much appreciated!! Unless I missed it along the way 🙄

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Coming soooooon

[@TonyBenton0728]

Congratulations ; Mine should be in the end of august first of September 🤞!!!

[@TonyBenton0728]

Congratulations ; Mine should be in the end of august first of September 🤞!!!

[@christopherbarton7625]

Was that your boys 450? The dude from your pods cast.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Naw

[@Bore_Punch]

Was that bushing not seated when installed or did it move?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

It moved

[@original72canuck]

No issues yet on my June 2020 build F250 KR. Early on it had a bit of a firm 1-3 shift but that has lessened or totally disappeared after towing for about 7K miles in the last year. On the fence about taking advantage of the customer satisfaction program on the planet carrier needle bearings... don’t trust the local dealers to do the work mainly because they are not aware of the work, and I’ve had less than optimal service work performed there in the past. Plus, I haven’t received a letter from Ford yet.🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I totally get it

[@jeffreycastillo170]

Wait some time and find you a dealer that has experience with doing it. The more experience the tech had the better.

[@deaniverson4671]

I would plan a road trip and have arod perform the work for you.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

💪💪

[@timbo_slice4053]

That's a beast!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Dude, huge

[@timsmothers8740]

In over Your KZbin Head I'm sorry to say and yes send it to Precision. And I, applaud you for Tackling That Monster! Don't take my comment wrong as I, do appreciate the content that you put out.

[@geoffreyheitz8942]

I’ve heard about a gen 2 for this transmission. Do you know if it exists and when Ford started putting them into the trucks?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🤷‍♂️

[@anthonyc993]

Great video. I was wondering what the internals looked like. I have a 2020 f250 (9/2020 build date) with the 7.3 godzilla and 10 speed. Mine seems to have a weird sound coming from the bell housing, almost like a knocking noise. Transmission seems to have a mind of its own when shifting. Sometimes it shifts good and other times it is very clunky and doesn't know what gear it wants to be in. My rear pinion seal is leaking and i have a horrible vibration when driving. The truck is great, and I knew buying a first year engine Transmission combo was gonna come with some issues. Making appointment for it this coming week.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Theres a TSB for that. Go to the dealer

[@samgford]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod is that the 21-2100?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Huh

[@samgford]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod the tsb you were referencing? Was it numbered 21-2100. I told my dealer about it but of course I got the 'couldn't replicate' spill. My truck has a noise that can be described as a roller coaster being pulled up a hill while in park. It also makes a ticking noise above 2k while driving.

[@anthonyc993]

@@samgford my dealer told me Same thing. I’m ready to go back to a ram. I really like this truck, but it seems like the 2 dealers I have gone to for this issue don’t wanna do anything and they can not seem to figure out my vibration/shudder issue.

[@sliderrbharris]

Buddies F350 DRW is in right now getting a new transmission. 3 days and 600 miles from driving it off the showroom and it started slamming 1-3. Dealer was unable to diagnose and decided to do a complete replacement.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

LTIS

[@sliderrbharris]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod wish you were in TX, I would’ve told him to bring it to you..

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

TX boys are the ones that come see me the most!

[@3374jj]

Those planetaries are huge ...

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Huuuuge

[@Humblescape]

My 21 f350 6.2 has a noise going from park to drive when initially driven. The laymen research I did said it’s lack of fluid going to the torque converter if you don’t give it proper warm up time and is a normal characteristic of the 10 speed. I cant confirm or deny this. Other than the noise the 10 speed trans is light years ahead of my 68rfe in my 19 ram Cummins.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

You r corrrect

[@trevnelson13]

I could be wrong, but Im pretty sure the 10 speed is only available on the 6.7 and the 7.3 gasser. The 6.2 would have a 6 speed paired up to it.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

You are right! Bob, tell em' what he's won!!!🤌🤌🙌🙌

[@Humblescape]

@@trevnelson13 the 10 speed is standard on all 21 f350 (1 ton) models regardless of engine and axel ratio. 6 speed is only on the f250 if I’m not mistaking.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

250 350 450 550 brother

[@disgracebook5708]

Why on earth wouldn’t engineering spec in a key slotto keep the sleeve from rotating & thus restricting oilflow?

[@ramrod274]

Hey Arod, I have a 2020 f250 diesel. Every once in awhile when i press the throttle it doesn't respond (rpm still at idle) for at least 3 to 4 seconds then it decide to work. When it happens there's no check engine light. Through your experience what is the cause of that issue? Only 7000 miles on it.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I need MORE info.....u leavin out the meat & potatoes

[@ramrod274]

While I'm driving in 1st or 2nd and I decide to press the pedal to go faster the accelerator hesitates for a few seconds then it works.

[@timsmothers8740]

Get yourself a Banks Pedal monster if it is available for your Rig.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hmmmm

[@ramrod274]

@@timsmothers8740 Thank you Sir. I have an appointment with ford next week I'll let them figure it out, probably something to do with the pedal sensor or throttle response sensor. I definitely will be ordering the pedal monster though. Much Appreciated!

[@2025willbebetteryet]

I don't t post much, but I do watch all your videos. Before this issue was made public I tried to give everyone my thoughts on the new 10 speed. I was questioned and even laughed at, whatever. I test drove 14 different 2020's from 3 different dealers when searching for my next truck, even pre ordered the Tremor. While waiting for my Tremor to arrive I did my testing, all but 3 trucks shifted like crap 1st-3rd. Hard upshifts and even worse downshifting, my wife would turn and look at me and say are you sure you want a 2020, when I would ask the salesman what's up, for the most part they said it was either normal or it would go away, at the end I cancelled my order and bought a leftover 2019. 42k miles and cant be happier. I will however end up with a 2022 or 23 just depends what the market looks like. Funny thing is, my 2019 is worth $21k more than what I paid for it, even with 42k miles, unreal!

[@burtcale6055]

They still do it in 22 and will probably still in 23. Garbage software.

[@disgracebook5708]

2019 was the last good Super Duty.

[@2025willbebetteryet]

76k on the 2019, not even a hiccup. Love the truck. Pull 13k once a weekend every month from March till November camping. I have 4 recalls and a few reprogramming recalls for the emissions that I have never completed and a few service bulletins never done by the dealer. I performed the service bulletins myself on my own dime in the driveway. No way in hell will I let a dealership work on my truck let along the emissions software. I'll own this truck till it's no longer feasible.

[@scowell]

Loving my '18 6-speed... occasionally it has a very hard 2-1 downshift, never an upshift... thought about erasing it and letting it re-learn.

[@danmartin9558]

I have 2021 F-450 and experience hard shifts and hard gear engaging from park to drive. I only have 1400 miles on truck and I experience a growling vibration when pulling grades pulling 5th wheel. Most of the miles on truck have been hooked to a trailer. I have appointment to take into dealer I don't know what the outcome will be.

[@michaelmooney6245]

Are these transmissions more reliable on the 2022 trucks? It seems most issues are 2020 trucks and a few 2021s. Hopefully they are improving things, looking at buying a 2022.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Id pull the trigger. Dont be listenin to all that internet polution

[@Californians_go_home]

I have a 2022 platinum f350. I’m here watching these videos because the 10 speed is junk. I wish I still had my 19. I knew better than to buy this because of ford working with gm . I will never buy another gm solely because of transmission problems in the past. My 2022 lost all gears last night suddenly. Only have 7th. Ford needs to stick with what works. Go back to the 6

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

U can thank your local government for that

[@Thegoose95]

I’ve heard from at least 4 different guys that these transmissions love to shuttle shift in heavy traffic situations and low speed roads. You would think the needle bearing failure would definitely call for a recall since it could lead to complete trans failure if loose bearings are just floating around lmao.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I feel ya

[@ColeyCLogan]

a little help please what or how to recognize a shuttle shift. Under load, accelerating the trans will go up through every gear. No-load, yes it will skip or jump gears. is that a shuttle shift? Downshifting I have not noticed it skipping gears under a load.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

That's a normal 10r140 operation

[@thecryptolayman5695]

I have a 2020 (11-07-19 manufactured date) my transmission bangs hard when it’s cold between 4th through 6th gears. Usually a downshift and it feels like the transmission is coming apart.

[@Thegoose95]

@@ColeyCLogan shuttle shifting is when the ecm doesn’t know which gear is best suited for the speed the truck/car is traveling at. Another phrase people use to describe shuttle shifting is that the transmission is “hunting” for the right gear to be in. Early 90’s Ford transmissions were notorious for this as well.

[@MattGiblet]

Ues i have 2020 10 sps 7.3 gas. Hard shifting no shifting run aways and no movement at all. 100k miles

[@ColeyCLogan]

My F550-2020, 6.7L Diesel, the 10R140, under 17k miles, 10-speed transmission downshifts roughly (at times) when in tow hall & towing RV 5th wheel, not from 10th but maybe jumps (skips) from 8th or so to a much lower gear. Happens unpredictable but when towing a 20K lbs RV. Have not noticed it jump or skip down. But that may give me a thing to watch for. I just feel the slam and the rig shake - slow down. Think it has occurred on longer trips, not on short 60 - 90 minute drives. My VIN - F550 Truck is not covered under the CSP 21B03, It is a month newer. I have an appointment in 2 weeks to ask a dealer to take a look. but they are telling me if they can't duplicate they can fix it and will ask me what I want them to do :(

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yeppp

[@howardriggins4010]

So on a 10R140 that’s called a CDE clutch? Because in the 60 and 80 that is a CDF clutches and the piece still stuck on the IPS is the E clutch. And how many miles does the truck have? Can’t imagine that the inner sleeve just slowly slid down. Strange

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Bout 30k

[@howardriggins4010]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod hmmm, weird nice that you found the problem . Must have been sleeve that was susceptible to expansion and contraction issues because that sleeve is pressed in and not really riding on anything but the seals on the shaft.

[@masongray9046]

The torque converter is really heavy they had one tore apart @ my local for dealer I think the needle bearings on the planetary,s were bad

[@ColeyCLogan]

In your video, the old distressed No. 1 planetary needle bearing it is not easy to see how bad it is or how it is generating the so-called contamination. The Transmission you have there did the filter look FULL of contamination????

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes

[@samuelolivares6671]

I have a 2020 6.7 and sometimes I get a hard downshift at 3rd gear. It’s not something I can replicate but happens a couple times a week. I have about 18k miles on it now. So it’s definitely past the break in period. Any ideas???

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I would make sure your modules are all up to date with the most current level software available.

[@samuelolivares6671]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks for your reply.

[@ColeyCLogan]

Figure u have the 10 speed transmission, but do u have problem when towing? If yes do u have have in TowHall? When u apply the break it starts to down shift?

[@samuelolivares6671]

@@ColeyCLogan usually only happens when not towing.

[@chadharmon5716]

Had no idea you did trans too cool what was the reason for transmission failure?

[@kyleday7598]

In my 2020 f550 yesterday, I lost all gears from 5th to 10th and reverse at 70mph

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Bummer

[@kyleday7598]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Having a hard time finding parts or a transmission

[@5302cvfd]

ordering a 2022 tremor 7.3. My 2017 f150 10 speed has not had any problems. Just tows enclosed trailer like s**t and mpg suck. Do you think ford has resolved these issues or should I stay away. Retiring in a few years and will be on a tighter budget and wont be looking for problems if they can be avoided. Thanks for any input.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Although they are TEN speeds they are completely different

[@5302cvfd]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thanks for getting back. I was hoping you had an input on the super duty 7.3 trans.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

10r140, watch my video i have on it. Not just 7.3

[@michaelchan8915]

WOW!!! That is one beefy monster of a transmission. Five pinion planetary gearset. That says enough about how beefy that transmission is. No complaints about my '21 so far, except that I do feel it does shift overall more harshly when driving through stop-and-go traffic. I hope this isn't an indication of future issues to come, because I am not a transmission tech as you already know. And we lost our tranny tech to Covid, and have been unable to replace him so far.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey there my friend

[@matthewfort3740]

Mmmm good info. I bet Fords engineers going back to the drawing board to fix that issue.

[@seanfarrell8155]

I just ditched my '21 F-550 Lariat for an issue similar to this. But mine would bang into gear while trying to leave an intersection. That truck was the only new vehicle I've ever owned and it was a huge disappointment. Lol. Happiest day of this year was sending that thing off to a new owner! My 08 had the 5R110 with 366,000 miles and never had one single issue.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Bummer

[@15Jeep]

I can might believe no issues with the 5R110, but no problems with the 6.4L Powerstroke diesel engine??? If your 2008 had the 6.4L twin turbo diesel engine you were very lucky to get that mileage out of it since the 6.4L Powerstroke was known for "engine block cavitation" behind the water pump. There was and is NO fix for a cavitated engine block, unlike the problems with many of the operating systems (individual parts - FICM, water pump, engine oil cooler, etc.) of the 6.0L, which high quality parts were available from Bullet Proof Diesel.

[@seanfarrell8155]

@@15Jeep I deleted it when I bought it at 60k. I put heads, gaskets, and head studs on it at 186k. I think I've put 2 water pumps on it and did thermostats both times. Everything else is original.

[@adaycj]

It is pretty sad to me that the exact same problem that has existed for years on the 10R80 is here in this trans too.. I suppose there will or already is an updated clutch drum to fix this problem permanently.

[@wakeupamerica2024]

Updated CDF drum 👍🏻

[@tommilynnstewart1608]

Are these transmissions garbage? I just ordered a 2022 F-550 Can they handle the abuse?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Stay off them forums my man. They fillin ya with mis info

[@cory9088]

I work at a GM Dealership and I have my first 10L1000 apart because of some burnt up clutch packs. I was reading on the web that the parts from that trans were interchangeable with the trans you got apart. But watching your video I see alot of differences in the two. So I would have to say that statement about the parts being interchangeable is false.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Correct

[@jimm2442]

Are you seeing a lot of issues with the 10L1000?

[@cory9088]

@@jimm2442 this is the first one that' i've had apart and its a first year model. Other dealers in the area are seeing broken output shafts. The one I did had valve body issues and burnt up two different clutch packs. Personally I think GM should leave these bigger transmissions to Allison instead of building them, themselves.

[@MrStaybrown]

Thanks for sharing. I have also heard people and techs saying the GM and Ford 10 speeds are the same.

[@larryschaum6280]

⁠​⁠@@MrStaybrown The 10L80 and the 10R80 Have a lot in common, but not exact. They were a joint venture between Ford and GM The 10R140 and the 10L1000 Are completely different.

[@MrDraper38]

I just hope they get mine back together properly and don't have more issues down the road. 🤞 mine is a 2020 F250 7.3 Godzilla of course 10 speed.

[@chadharmon5716]

Never mind you explained it lol

[@markhaney7332]

I have a Feb 2020 F350 - my truck shudders going through 1 through 4th gears when towing our 15K lb 5th wheel. It shifts great but definitely can feel the truck shudder when taking off from a stop (tow haul mode). We are pretty easy on it - the 6.7L is a beast - towed the Rockies in late June. Does not shudder at all unloaded.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Interesting

[@allencarney7825]

I have a 2020 f 450 and it does the same shudder under load, slams into gear when going forward to reverse and flares when shifting. Ford says it's normal. I call bullshit myself.

[@onehot57]

My 2018 F150 bangs into drive from park! I have never liked that .

[@niceguy4928]

Complicated for sure 👍🏻

[@antoniomontejano7375]

I have a 2020 f550. If I’m at a red light as I let go of the brake to move across the intersection there is a pause and then it just jumps into gear. Or if I come to a stop after I fully stop it feel like a small jolt like if someone tapped my rear end. Not sure if this is that 21b03 thing…

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Shhhoot bout sounds like this dudes problem....

[@olegreg3299]

The 10 rs are great but they all share the same faults once corrected they are pretty tough. I still prefer the 6rs. But ive been doing them for a while

[@mr_big_pea_pea4013]

So, is this coming out of Ford’s pocket or the Customers pocket?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

3/36

[@srn9973]

I have a 21 F350 6.7 only 6200 miles it shifts absolutely perfect. I also have a 17 F350 6.7 the 21 gets about 2 mpg better.

[@KEN-du2iz]

So far mine's running like a clock.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ditto

[@nicholasholder2486]

The only thing I have to complain about on mine is that it stutters 3-4 times when shifting from 4-6 when it shifts 4-5-6 there’s no shaking at all. Almost feels like hitting three small pot holes. 20’ 6.7 w/ weight reduction.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Wow! Too bad, that underlying stock CAL could probably use an update, but.....too late for that now....