Ford 5.4L 3v Triton Engines: When Aftermarket Timing Jobs Goes Bad…

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@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 жыл бұрын
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@kimjaniszeski498
@kimjaniszeski498 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be using these parts on a 5.4l I got coming up.
@raftguide3r
@raftguide3r 3 жыл бұрын
In a lot of your videos your reference "updated" timing parts or updated lash adjusters and/or roller followers... Do you know what year Ford would have started using those "updated" parts in new vehicles?
@Hubjeep
@Hubjeep 3 жыл бұрын
I got to do this to my 150K 2004 as PM. What's the difference between the two kits on Amazon?
@myaffiliationisasentinel5815
@myaffiliationisasentinel5815 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know a ford transmission tech, in Florida? I've had 3 5R55E, 1 replacement, and 2 builds. Thousands later, I'm still down.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 жыл бұрын
2010
@tonytunnell9873
@tonytunnell9873 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about the 5.4 is that it has feed the family's of countless techs.
@TheRobo46
@TheRobo46 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the junk 3 valve, i run three 2 valve engines (2@5.4 and a 6.8) I did every service, 160k 170 k and 205 k no issues. I blame stupid cafe standards govt making them squeeze every mpg and engineers doing acrobatics.
@joshlott6463
@joshlott6463 3 жыл бұрын
Mine feeds the families of my local O'Riley's 😂😂
@Hawka-Loogy
@Hawka-Loogy 3 жыл бұрын
My 5.4/3V has 240K original miles. Very low revs, never miss an oil change, drive every day.
@TheRobo46
@TheRobo46 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hawka-Loogy Yes you are correct, 3 valve does get bad rap because susceptible to increased failure with lack of maintenance. These things do use oil from day one and people dont check their oil in between services. My 1984 F250 4.9 still going, same thing on maintenance. I drove it to work today, 37 years and counting.
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshlott6463 4v swap it bro, get you an older navi motor and then all you gotta worry about is shooting spark plugs
@gsquaredmke
@gsquaredmke 3 жыл бұрын
Having you do the timing job on my 2006 Mark LT was the best money I've spent on my truck. Worth every penny for your expertise!
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 3 жыл бұрын
What I appreciate most about Brian and watching him work is that he actually cares enough to do whatever is necessary to make it 100% right. He has a passion for what he does and tackles these sickly running engines like a skilled surgeon. Never met the man but I'd take his word over anyone from Ford. If he says it's good I'd say your worry days are over. Congrats on your truck.
@JustinLaNoue
@JustinLaNoue 3 жыл бұрын
Hey now it’s good for 300k since it’s in good hands now 👍
@pjones6749
@pjones6749 2 жыл бұрын
How much was it?
@FlyingV555
@FlyingV555 2 жыл бұрын
@@pjones6749 probably not cheap
@bostonCzz
@bostonCzz 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for having one of the most useful channels on the KZbin
@armandocastillo9852
@armandocastillo9852 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly
@johnphillips1345
@johnphillips1345 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a ford technician and I learn this lesson the hard way.... good video about after market crap.....
@MotFPS
@MotFPS 3 жыл бұрын
Well if Ford actually knew how to make a motor we wouldn't need to learn this lession. Now ford is going electric since it's been 100+ years of garbage.
@crewdawg2008
@crewdawg2008 3 жыл бұрын
My 2013 5.0 coyote powered F150 must not have been told its garbage. Over 200k miles and still as strong as it ever was. Regular oil changes are critical for any engine
@MotFPS
@MotFPS 3 жыл бұрын
@@crewdawg2008 the 5.0's still have chain tensioners blow out. But I agree...5.0 is 100% better than a 5.4...still ford is struggling with building a motor that builds a trusting reputation.
@crewdawg2008
@crewdawg2008 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotFPS well anything CAN have something that fails. The fact is that, while the 5.4 3V had plenty of chronic issues, the 5.0 is pretty rock solid, as were the 4.6 and 5.4 2V engines before. Even more reliable were the previous generation of pushrod engines from the 351W, the 302, down to the 300 I6. Point is, Ford hasnt had any more issues with engines over the last century than anybody else in the business.
@calparsons2502
@calparsons2502 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotFPS best engine Ford built was the flathead, all down hill since
@sundogtune
@sundogtune 3 жыл бұрын
i want to thank you for your videos. i had my timing job done at 108,000 miles on my 2010. when i heard the very first chain slap. was told by the service tech. at ford, this was the cleanest engine he had seen in a long time. ( i also followed your advice and changed my semi synthetic oil every 4,000).i did not wait for stuff to get torn up. At 100,000 i changed fluids in rear diff. ,transfer case( 2nd time), trans. and filter, brake fluid, power steering, brake pads and spark plugs. all from watching your videos. YOU SIR ARE THE MAN!! i should get another 10 years out of this vehicle
@huntingspud3086
@huntingspud3086 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job, it's so rare to see someone being so thorough in repairing a vehicle, you set a great example.
@Bamacher59
@Bamacher59 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best in the business, thanks for all your hard work and knowledge.
@lashlarue7924
@lashlarue7924 3 жыл бұрын
Most shops just replace the engine whenever this happens. Respect to you for avoiding that. Still, those cam caps looked like trash. I’d never but these.
@juan139257
@juan139257 3 жыл бұрын
I done like 80 of these engines and mr makuloco speaks the truth and in my humble opinion a very knowledgeable technician and I trust his advice concerning any ford vehicle. Thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 3 жыл бұрын
I have bought all of the pieces from the places you recommend. One of the chain tensioners was wrong, but my local Ford dealer exchanged it. Now, with all your videos, I will be diving in. Without you, I may have had someone else do the job but now feel confident enough to tackle it. Thank you Brian.
@garryr
@garryr 3 жыл бұрын
I have always said Dorman parts are for apprentice training. The more you change a part the better you get at it........
@anonymousinc6330
@anonymousinc6330 3 жыл бұрын
It's FUNNY, because it's TRUE.
@mmardell9262
@mmardell9262 3 жыл бұрын
I love this chanel. I fixed my current 5.4 3 valve with your videos, and I'm not afraid to buy another vehicle with this engine thanks to you.
@gibrilsecka3379
@gibrilsecka3379 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is best mechanic KZbinr,he explain everything in details.nothing escape.thank you for your time
@jamespn
@jamespn 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a Ford fan but if I owned one, I’d take it to this man for any major repairs and maintenance.
@christopherslaughter2542
@christopherslaughter2542 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I just did a timing job on my 2007 lincoln Mark Lt it has 330,000 miles on it. It wasn't giving me any issues because I do all the oil changes and services on it myself and use full synthetic oil. I wanted to make sure that it will last another 100,000 so I did the timing job and watched your 4 part series and it helped me tremendously. I also purchased the parts u suggested timing chain kit, oil pump, rocker rollers, lash adjusters, VCT solenoid,and change my oil to 5w30.Thanks for your knowledge.
@gjenkins1660
@gjenkins1660 3 жыл бұрын
About how many hours did it take to complete? I need to do this job on an 07 expedition soon
@christopherslaughter2542
@christopherslaughter2542 3 жыл бұрын
@@gjenkins1660 it took me 3 days to complete because I was watching the videos at the same time so I wouldn't mess up anything. But since I know what to expect now I probably can finish it now in 10 hrs give or take a hour. That powersteering pump is hell to take off and put back on that was my only big hurdle. I also dropped my oil pan and replaced that gasket and I replaced the gasket to the oil filter housing.
@skipwilliams7288
@skipwilliams7288 3 жыл бұрын
Full 5w30 synthetic is the way to go.
@genefoster8601
@genefoster8601 3 жыл бұрын
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@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 3 жыл бұрын
The very fact that Ford has updated the whole timing sets on all of their Triton series mills a couple times, tells you that you need to use the newest OEM pieces. Spend the dough, do it once, and forget it.
@HockeyGoon939
@HockeyGoon939 3 жыл бұрын
If you actually use your truck like a truck you'll do it about every 100K. The 5.4 lacks oil flow, the plastic tensioners and the very light duty cam phazers just don't have the durability to stand up to heavy use with a little abuse tossed in. That's before you even deal with the broke spark plugs. The two valve engines weren't to bad but they were also so much less complicated.
@ronlind1757
@ronlind1757 2 жыл бұрын
@@HockeyGoon939.. you are 100% correct. So why buy the truck in the first place???
@Millerboy95
@Millerboy95 3 жыл бұрын
I love the information you put out to us viewers. I use your knowledge all the time. I'm just a home mechanic in my personal shop helping people out. But I have been turning wrenches since I was 14 so it comes naturally. Thanks for your time & helping us out.
@michaelhill6627
@michaelhill6627 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to me the engine was still running despite the phaser issue, the missing guide, and all the debris in the pan. I know these engines have their faults but I've owned several and only had timing issues start after 150k miles.
@xtremegamer2218
@xtremegamer2218 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I’m getting close on my 06 then. 135k miles on it
@michaelhill6627
@michaelhill6627 3 жыл бұрын
@@xtremegamer2218 last one I had issues with had 178k and didn't blow the motor. It had the diesel sound which is just like it sounds (slightly ticking or knocking) I got rid of it but later found out that's not that serious. I'd drive it till it quits then fix it
@xtremegamer2218
@xtremegamer2218 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhill6627 Mine did have a ticking sound but it was because of spark plugs. It is still completely quiet.
@ammoalamo6485
@ammoalamo6485 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being a great resource. I hope your channel gives you great pleasure, and enough money and satisfaction to continue going forward for a long time. My experience as a consumer in the in the last 25 years is that there are way too few honest and knowledgeable auto repair dealers and shops. But you are a shining light that gives me hope.
@lesterxxx7642
@lesterxxx7642 3 жыл бұрын
i have run engines with cam wear like that. i always felt it was a bad thing to do. it is nice to hear from someone else. i do it because of cost, small town & lack of tax money
@Obamaistoast2012
@Obamaistoast2012 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! I purchased after market parts to replace the timing chain and tensioners on my 05 5.4L 3V, it made about 8000 miles before the plastic guides fell apart and ended up in the oil pan. Thanks O'Reillys!
@ginamiller6015
@ginamiller6015 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a skilled, talented, and honest mechanic make things right. Thanks for sharing!
@danielmcspadden8194
@danielmcspadden8194 2 жыл бұрын
You are a stand up tech. Everything you say is absolutely correct and refreshing to hear. Thank you so much for you’re channel. Please keep putting out these videos I look forward to seeing them…. Thanks
@medfordJimmy
@medfordJimmy 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have my mechanic video the stuff he see's on my vehicle and why it needs repaired. Can you imagine that? Love this guys take on these engines. God bless you sir.
@kappasigma1284
@kappasigma1284 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make all of these videos. They are very informative and have saved me a ton of cash with my expedition.
@kimjaniszeski498
@kimjaniszeski498 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using your 4 part 4.0l timing videos to do complete timing replacement on an 06 explorer. You explained so well I bought another 03 explorer with same issue to fix and flip. Thank you and keep up the great work. I got an 5.4l to do this on also soon. Also I watched your videos for an 5.4l swap i did last winter.
@young11984
@young11984 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a typical car lots “patch it up cheap so we can sell it” repair, i have done many that was the same way with Dorman junk....Ford parts are not that much more expensive to do it right the first time.
@leoashrae4199
@leoashrae4199 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. I've done three that were this bad (and somewhat worse... one was "painted" with red RTV). All three came from used car lots.
@erikturner5073
@erikturner5073 3 жыл бұрын
Actually my experience with 4.6 3 valves in particular, the aftermarket parts don't even fit. The chain is too tight and also the mesh between the chain and teeth is lousy anyways.
@greasee.monkey7224
@greasee.monkey7224 3 жыл бұрын
I have done a ton of these and they start and run great every time. I have you to thank for that. Since watching your 5.4 timing chain series years back, they all turn out the same. Of course we learned the hard way after 3 Dorman jobs came back, we only use Ford parts & the Melling high volume pump. Thanks for all of the teaching!!👍👍
@vbee7365
@vbee7365 3 жыл бұрын
Where are you located?
@greasee.monkey7224
@greasee.monkey7224 3 жыл бұрын
@@vbee7365 I work in Mt. Clemems near Detroit. Brian that did the video is in the Chicago area.
@arturocrespo7944
@arturocrespo7944 2 жыл бұрын
I got a question on this case I need to set the engine time or just remplace the parts ????
@armstrong4196
@armstrong4196 3 жыл бұрын
I did this job myself a couple years ago. I haven't had any problems since then! Obviously I used this channel information.
@ronringler4286
@ronringler4286 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear your take on the cam journals. I've done several with journals that bad or worse and never had an issue, though I was skeptical at first. Also, I check the cam crank correlation with a scope and if it's good, I reuse the OEM chains. Replace the phasers, guides, and tensioners, maybe an oil pump, and away you go!
@mikenaples4046
@mikenaples4046 3 жыл бұрын
Wes is everywhere. Really like your channel, btw. I agree with your chain test using a scope. That’s how I checked my 5.4l 3v when I did the timing job.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 3 жыл бұрын
back to work wes you're slacking again lol
@logicalguy488
@logicalguy488 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing that you have it all off I see no reason not to just put in a new chain and oil pump. This way you don't have to do it all over again for a long time.
@jaynone9262
@jaynone9262 3 жыл бұрын
Forward Phasers ..Shields up..Return fire.. Warp 2..Very helpful video if your repairing these vehicles and not the Enterprise.
@TheAbcoffer
@TheAbcoffer Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@vinces8974
@vinces8974 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how some of these aftermarket parts companies Even stay in business, great video lots of great information
@tomcordes1768
@tomcordes1768 3 жыл бұрын
If customer is selling vehicle soon, cheapest is best.
@SuperBigdanno
@SuperBigdanno 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind aftermarket, how about ford themselves? This was and still is a terrible design of an engine, ford should be held accountable somehow.
@charlesball6519
@charlesball6519 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomcordes1768 That's not fair to the person buying it after you worked on it and used the cheapest
@fredbach6039
@fredbach6039 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever taken Dorman to court over these bad parts?
@Robbievigil
@Robbievigil 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than a master of his craft.
@charlesball6519
@charlesball6519 3 жыл бұрын
I did my timing job back in October 2019 at just under 105,000 miles, using the Melling kit (which has metal chain tensioners). The timing chain in the kit looked more like the Ford OEM chain than the Dorman chain in your video (except for the odd choice of lighter colored timing links, than the usual dark color). The phasers in the kit looked like they took Ford phasers and remanned them to the updated version. I did replace the roller followers with Ford OEM (cheaper than Melling, by half), and used Engine Tech lash adjusters (the only part I went cheap with). I bought the Melling M340HV oil pump. My truck currently has under 118,000 miles. Also, I watched your videos on how to do the timing (and one from BSK garage to fill in gaps in your video), as well as downloading the Ford service manual to help with torque values and bolt sequences, among other things. The timing kit, oil pump and lash adjusters were bought from Rock Auto, the roller followers and some miscellaneous parts were bought from a Ford Dealership in Bloomington, MN in the Ford parts network.
@willhart7861
@willhart7861 Жыл бұрын
Hope it lasted you well !!
@charlesball6519
@charlesball6519 Жыл бұрын
@@willhart7861 Still going strong, and at almost 138,000 miles.
@willhart7861
@willhart7861 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesball6519 that's great news. I'm planning on using a Melling kit very soon for mine as well. I hope I have the same results as you!
@patricknemec3270
@patricknemec3270 2 жыл бұрын
followed your early 4 part timing job vids...except for slight oil leak (thought i got all the torques right) engine runs great...THANKS!
@El.KompaLalo1850
@El.KompaLalo1850 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you and youtube for existing I’m half ways done puttin my engine back together now i have to pull the oil pan out and clean it thank you buddy
@Mustangmilton
@Mustangmilton 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative. I have an FX4 5.4T I bought new in 2005 that started having timing issues at around 130K miles. I was going to buy a full Dorman Timing kit because of the price of the parts. Luckily I saw various of you videos and they convinced me to buy original Ford cam phasers, the M360 oil pump and a matched Cloyes timing chain and tensioners set. Once the work started the tech found about 3/8” play in the crank shaft so we added a crank kit (the thrust bearing was gone and the crank was badly scored). The engine was put back together and the truck is running wonderfully. It is a great truck that hasn’t had any other issues other that mentioned above. I look forward to spending many more years with it. Thank you for taking the time to create these videos and explain in clear detail the issues that need to be addressed in order for the repairs to be reliable. I appreciate your advice!
@caseyedds2032
@caseyedds2032 3 жыл бұрын
This is spot on.. I cheaped out, bought an Amazon special kit once, lasted maybe 5k. I created more headache than I had to begin with. Went back in with OEM replacements the second time around. The cam cap thing is nice to hear. Mine were the same way, had me worried at 1st. Great channel.
@wilmarbarrick3194
@wilmarbarrick3194 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the days when timing chains were forever items that never needed attention other than oil changes.
@suntoritime
@suntoritime 3 жыл бұрын
On a lot of cars they are. Obviously not on these Ford 3 valves though...
@lexmaximaguy8788
@lexmaximaguy8788 3 жыл бұрын
Timing chains still are forever items.. it boils down too proper oil maintenance and proper design of the chain and pcv system.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 3 жыл бұрын
@@lexmaximaguy8788 They are not lifetime on a significant number of modern cars. Several European cars have had timing chains that are less reliable than belts (BMW is a major offender) but even traditionally reliable Japanese manufacturers like Honda and Toyota have engines that can require chains to be replaced after 100k even with regular servicing.
@lexmaximaguy8788
@lexmaximaguy8788 3 жыл бұрын
@@ferrumignis Eurotrash has been notorious for chain issues and premature failure. Honda and toyota started making garbage back in the mid 2000's by switching over too cheaper material. Hence it boils down too the designs of the chains and or pcv system.
@enricopolazzo33
@enricopolazzo33 3 жыл бұрын
I’d rather change two or three timing belts than one chain. My cars are well maintained and I still needed to replace a chain at 150k.
@chrishulsey6217
@chrishulsey6217 3 жыл бұрын
Have to say you are very helpful to the small guys like me who are starting there own shop and need just a bit of advice thank you much for your time and effort in videos 👍
@GreatDataVideos
@GreatDataVideos 3 жыл бұрын
I followed your videos a few years ago to replace timing parts, VTC, oil pump, spark plugs, etc. Bought the parts that you recommended, and everything has been working since! Thanks so much for your detailed videos.
@BrokenWrenches
@BrokenWrenches 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, love your channel. I just did a 3 valve timing job a couple months ago and the passenger side guide had exploded. The chain had worn a 1.5 inch slot all the way thru the cover, you could literally see the chain. Oh and it was driven here. To make it even worse it came in with the complaint of an oil leak which a different shop said was the front crank seal !!! It was the chain slopping oil right out the front cover onto the balancer. Wish i could post a video .
@pwrshots
@pwrshots 3 жыл бұрын
My 32 valve had eaten the chain guide. Chain would make a rattling noise on startup. When my engine builder took it apart. We found pieces in the pan. Installed the Ford timing set. Good info.
@t3angling575
@t3angling575 3 жыл бұрын
Had mine done in my 2001 F150 5.4L v8 after 17 years. Phasers were the main issue as well. I am at 246k miles and she is running strong. I do hear a ticking sound now though. Would love to have it rebuilt, but $$$$. Thx for the channel, it is my favorite channel for my F150. I have turned my mechanic onto your channel, and told him to refer to your channel when working on my truck. It has helped him, he is appreciative and he now takes in more Fords. Before he did not want to deal with them. Lol!
@trafficsignalman
@trafficsignalman 3 жыл бұрын
Getting ready to do this on my son's Expedition. Great information. Thanks!
@mikepoppjr
@mikepoppjr 3 жыл бұрын
Your customers must love that you record all of this stuff
@Anonymous-it5jw
@Anonymous-it5jw 3 жыл бұрын
Very timely video for those with these engines in their Fords, like me. Thanks for taking the time to make it and for showing us what to look for.
@paulpellico3797
@paulpellico3797 3 жыл бұрын
not a mechanic but i so enjoyed this video. i hope you continue to be the teacher you are.
@dorightal4965
@dorightal4965 3 жыл бұрын
The best statement I've heard regarding quality is "You can buy good quality oats for your horse, or you can get oats that have been through another horse". That goes for parts and labor!
@superduty4828
@superduty4828 3 жыл бұрын
Man you know you stuff sir, love the channel. I had purchased brand new, 04 f150 new body style, 24k miles on the truck and it went into limp mode couldn’t go more than 45mph to the stealership. They had my truck for about 1 week maybe two weeks, final result, broke a tooth on the time chain sprocket, retarded the timing broke all types of plastic. After that no other issues and I sold the truck about 4 years ago with 200k and moved up to a super duty. Great video sir, keep up the good work.
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 жыл бұрын
I heard Dorman was getting into the birth control market.
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that the IPO was for a company called, "Oops-A-Baby" condoms. ;-)
@Silent_Shadow
@Silent_Shadow 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your knowledge my 2008 5.4 is still running strong and at 75k I rebuilt the timing with all OEM updated parts you linked. Don't forget that oil pump. 5.4 owners!! Keep that oil changed!
@tazzzerolimitzmc994
@tazzzerolimitzmc994 3 жыл бұрын
love this video how you explain everything detail by detail, as im doing one now that the passenger side top valve cover broke from the front and what caused it was that passenger tensioner skinny plastic part had broken in there now just replacing everything oem never aftermarket when it comes to issues like this will never be the same awesome video once again!!
@arthurfricchione8119
@arthurfricchione8119 3 жыл бұрын
I know some people say dorman parts are good. Well I just did an oil change on my daughters car and I would not even use a dorman oil drain plug. Will not use dorman parts no matter how much money I could save. Not worth it in the long run. Thanks buddy stay safe and well Artie 🇺🇸👍
@ronnienewsome6668
@ronnienewsome6668 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a big semi diesel tech I have a 08 F-150 Lariat 54 3 valve 4-door two-wheel drive i bought it had 145 on it it's got 195 on it now still running strong and smooth
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 3 жыл бұрын
Ive learned all about 5.4 from him.I already changed out own engine and everything on my 03 Ford 5.4 2 valve! Laramie
@caseyedds2032
@caseyedds2032 3 жыл бұрын
Do some more 4.6 2v stuff. I know it’s amateur stuff compared to 5.4 3v though. Love the channel. Its. Its no question this channel has saved my 2005 f150 time and time again.
@jon_are
@jon_are 3 жыл бұрын
Bank 1 cam caps are what you want to inspect since they are the last to receive oil pressure on the 5.4 3v. It will look worse than that bank 2 cap.
@hgallegos915
@hgallegos915 3 жыл бұрын
You are so awesome!! I followed your step by step and did it myself. Everything worked well!! Then i wrecked it.... I got another 5.4 f150 that's finally working well.
@michaelosborn2568
@michaelosborn2568 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be attempting this job myself in the near future. Something came loose in the timing area and slapped through the bank 2 valve cover. Chain appears to be intact and on the gear, so I’m betting on this video subject as my issue. When I purchased the Expy from a used dealer, they told me it had a new timing job. I’m sure they used similar cheap parts now, as I’ve discovered they have a rep for doing so, or even used parts. Thanks for this channel and your experience shared. I wouldn’t think of doing this kind of work without it!
@shaunsautorepairs5410
@shaunsautorepairs5410 3 жыл бұрын
Im in the UK . We never see these engines but after watching all your videos i will know them inside out anyway...Awesome content..Thanks for sharing
@peterlynn1553
@peterlynn1553 3 жыл бұрын
That was very nice of you, that's probably the best it's run since new
@TRADERnel
@TRADERnel 3 жыл бұрын
I follow you all the time and installed new engine in my 2004 f150 180,000 mi on the mark got the motor the same place as you did yours. I'm hoping the new one will last over 180,000 MI. Last one was kind of my fault not taking care of it not enough oil changes using regular oil just neglect but I love the truck and I can't afford a new one but I love your shows thanks
@josephneal4858
@josephneal4858 3 жыл бұрын
One oF My Favorites...... I love This One!!!!!
@jefferylara5775
@jefferylara5775 3 жыл бұрын
I dont own any ford vehicles now but man even so I Love your channel
@EH-nw6bu
@EH-nw6bu 3 жыл бұрын
I was watching and I also have worked on countless 5.4L and 4.6L fords. I tell everyone, when you hit 85K to 100K on these engines. It is time for a timing chain, water pump and oil pump replacement. Most people fail to listen and by 125K. they are back in the shop looking for the cheapest way out. To this day, water pump, oil pump and timing sets all come from Ford. On a different note. I would truly appreciate the information on the hood light that he has attached to the car when he is doing maintenance. I have a ton of overhead lighting, mechanic reel type lighting but not the one that attaches to the hood. Thanks for the video. You sir know you stuff and it is always interesting to watch your videos.
@Lone-Wolf87
@Lone-Wolf87 3 жыл бұрын
Just for my experience I know there are parts that you should never ever go cheap on. The timing chain is in the top things you should never ever go cheap on. Thank you a lot for another video. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@BigPlaneFixer
@BigPlaneFixer 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are great! It is noteworthy that that PCV is part of the valve cover. Mine was toast and had to buy a whole new valve cover. It is a pain in the ass job. But follow the videos and you'll be fine.
@granada666
@granada666 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your channel and expertise. According to your instructions, I changed the timing chains on my 08 Expedition and only used Ford parts. As a little tip for everyone, at the Ford dealer "Fairway Ford" you can get the original parts cheaper than on Amazon!
@joek0617
@joek0617 3 жыл бұрын
Some local dealers also sell them
@John-cj7et
@John-cj7et 3 жыл бұрын
I also found that to be true especially if you give them other business. Had to replace the bumper support / trailer hitch on 2005 f150. Checked online pricing then went to local dealer. They were about $50 less.
@billghee9387
@billghee9387 3 жыл бұрын
The part about aftermarket chain quality is spot on. Recently changed the guides, tensioners and chains on my two valve Town Car. I was collecting parts and looking for bargains via online sellers and came across what I thought was a real bargain on a Cloyes chain on Amazon. Chain arrived with a "Made in China" label on the box. I emailed a photo to Cloyes customer service as I wondered if it was a counterfeit, and they confirmed that it was, in fact, a genuine Cloyes chain. I then went to one of the well known on-line Ford parts houses and purchased the Morse/genuine Ford chains. When I compared the Morse to the Cloyes, the Morse was clearly of superior build quality. I'm not meaning to bash Cloyes as their products have been considered of quality by "motor heads" for decades. The reality is, however, that, when compared, unknown quality foreign aftermarket parts show genuine Ford replacement parts to be superior. While what was shown in this video this was clearly a used dealer's throw-it-together-to-sell-it, if someone was going to do this job on their own, the $650.00 genuine Ford replacement set in the link would have ultimately saved, at least, $1,500.00.
@paulhudgins5120
@paulhudgins5120 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, great example to use Ford OEM timing chain kit only, not the aftermarket junk parts repair.
@a2cryss
@a2cryss 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. My 2010 4.6 3v @ 146k miles currently sounds like this one at the end with my leaking exhaust manifold.
@cessealbeach
@cessealbeach 2 жыл бұрын
Brian is thorough and way better than any Ford Dealership Tech, bunch of butchers and parts swappers work at ALL Ford Dealerships, Our Gardner has a 2004 5.4 with 367K . he just had a full timing job and phasers swapped by an independent shop for $4600. man only uses Mobil 1 every 7K miles. This truck is whisper quiet with 367K miles
@erikturner5073
@erikturner5073 3 жыл бұрын
I work in an independent shop and I have to say that using dealer parts is a must on GM ecotec engines and a few others as well as the Ford mod engines. Shop owners don't want to pays the cost of dealer parts and pass the cost to the customer. That being said there was a F150 4.6 3 valve that came to the shop and needed a timing chin job done due to a noisy cam phaser. Anyways the boss kept wanting to try different aftermarket set including Dorman and the fit was lousy. I could not get the chain to fit without breaking something and that wasn't something I was going to do. Finally I TOLD him for the last time to order the dealership parts that I was no longer going to waste my time. At that point he saw that I wasn't no longer going to mess with it and he FINALLY ordered the complete set, chains, tensioners, guides, and phasers from the dealership and the Ford parts went on perfectly.
@atx-cvpi_99
@atx-cvpi_99 3 жыл бұрын
GM HFV6 is the same way also.
@patrickslandscapingservice1518
@patrickslandscapingservice1518 Жыл бұрын
I had the timing done on my 07 5.4. Truck had 160k on it. Since then I do oil changes every 2000 miles and use 5w30 oil like you recommended. Have put an additional 60k miles since.
@MaverickSu-35
@MaverickSu-35 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you man..., you're our knowledge on Fords! If just more engineers / mechanics would be like you, at least honest as you and not greedy or a parts changer without logics.
@billmalec
@billmalec 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest tip? Vice grip on the lift strut. Thanks 😁 Great stuff as usual.
@christopheredelen56
@christopheredelen56 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the awesome service work your doing and showing us that have a 5.4 triton. I had to recently unplug the ecv sensor to stop engine from stalling at very low speeds once the engine warmed up. Thanks to you we made it home.
@Me-nq4gz
@Me-nq4gz 2 жыл бұрын
Not tying to take anything away from what you’re saying but I’ve done MANY timing jobs on these using Cloyes kits when the customer is on a budget and have never had a problem. Never used Dorman timing kits, I sell OEM parts whenever I can. The things you’re saying make since and all but I’ve never had an issue. 🤞 With that being said, I’ve got one in the shop now and I think I might not do that this time. ✌️
@tomroe7715
@tomroe7715 2 жыл бұрын
From a master Ford tech, guy is good.
@lesterxxx7642
@lesterxxx7642 3 жыл бұрын
once i have pan off, i will check rods & mains. just nice to know before i go into repairs. that way you know bottom end is worth all other repairs
@DrdjFox-hu1mc
@DrdjFox-hu1mc 7 ай бұрын
Thanx for being so thorough 😊
@johnsonbobo2376
@johnsonbobo2376 3 жыл бұрын
Man I learn so much from you on these 5.4's
@ronalddreszel4352
@ronalddreszel4352 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my 2005 f150 running again with watching your videos i hope it holds up
@jondoes7836
@jondoes7836 3 жыл бұрын
I rebuilt the engine on my 2005 3v F250. I’m glad I spent the coin on OEM timing parts. 55k miles on that engine and it still runs like a top. Motorcraft filters only on these engines. FL-820s
@mikeybhoutex
@mikeybhoutex 3 жыл бұрын
FTM, I hope you do see this. But even if you don't, I'll have said it and that makes me feel good. I have to say thank you once again. Your work is invaluable, and I appreciate your videos very much. And seeing this particular one is very much both enlightening as well as relieving. Your 4 part 5.4L 3V timing rebuild videos were instrumental in my decision to attack my 4.6L 3V (virtually the same engine) timing problem. The right side guide blew out, due to the tensioner issue. Lesson learned. Problem was all the Ford guys I talked to say "eh, they do that, don't worry." Hmph. Anyway, if this engine's wear is not going to kill the thing, then mine is absolutely fantastic to go. Cam caps were as smooth as the cam lobes, the oil pickup wasn't near as stuffed with guide bits (how this engine didn't starve is amazing to me!), the chains weren't even stretched out but maybe 1/16th inch. At 186K, she looked near new inside there, with a little varnish of course, as I do the regular oil changes with my preference of full synthetic, or blend if I can't get synthetic, in a pinch. Point is, this particular video helps me feel better about having done the work, putting in the right parts, including the followers and adjusters too, HV pump, all Ford/Motorcraft/Ford Performance parts... and doing it right by the book with all torques and procedures... I saved some money, but more importantly I saved my '06 Mustang GT! They wanted to mechanically total her for this problem, and she's still goin' today because of your help. I can't say thank you enough. And neither can Awesome (the Mustang in question). But we'll keep tryin'! :)
@batsonelectronics
@batsonelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Here is what I learned a long time ago. Use actual OEM for stuff that is hard/expensive to replace and cheaper stuff if it won't kill anything if it fails or if it is easy to change out. My Elantra has a OEM belt, water pump, tensioner, etc and it cost about $100 extra in parts when I had it done at 101K miles. I had the shop give me the old parts back so I could inspect and the belt was still in really good condition as was 1 of the tensioners. The water pump seemed a little floppy so was likely going to be the first part to fail. The coil pack is the first non wear item I have had to replace and it is a 2007 with 121,500 miles on it.
@josephgibson2381
@josephgibson2381 2 жыл бұрын
This is precisely why I took your advice and used only Ford parts. Recently finished a total timing job, as well as roller followers and lash adjusters, and the vct solenoids. Oh, and the melling oil pump. Followed your videos to the T and happy to say my 04 150 is running like new. My only question is, do you recommend an early oil change after this job? Similar to a break in period? Since all the new parts will probably shed some fine metal particles. Love all the videos and tips and tricks! Keep em coming!
@joelethalcruz4417
@joelethalcruz4417 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is a legend.👍👍
@blueplasma5589
@blueplasma5589 3 жыл бұрын
You are Ford Tuff! Thank's for all your sharing!
@infinity3jif
@infinity3jif 3 жыл бұрын
I love it when he brings in a 5.4L
@AJourneyOfYourSoul
@AJourneyOfYourSoul 3 жыл бұрын
“Oh, geez....” I feel you brother.
@chrisretired5379
@chrisretired5379 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You !! Been looking at my 98 expy in the garage for 2 years so far, needs a timing set. Going to toss my new Melling parts, will get Ford. The spacing between valve covers and everything else looks impossible, thanks to your videos I’m going to try, have the cam holders n crank position tool also.
@e.b.6766
@e.b.6766 3 жыл бұрын
You did it again… just when I think the videos can’t get any better!!!
@rigakit
@rigakit 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite videos of yours.
@manbearpig2164
@manbearpig2164 3 жыл бұрын
The master back at it, nice job, I like the 5.4
@anthonyloy3713
@anthonyloy3713 3 жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasure watching and listening to you, so informative,
@brucebratschi4300
@brucebratschi4300 3 жыл бұрын
I think of you very positively as you are knowledgeable, experienced, and thoughtful. 👍❤️👍
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever camera you're using is doing great on focus
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