Ford Explorer ST vs Dodge Durango SRT Drag Race - Can a $600 Tune Beat America's Fastest 3-Row SUV?

[@joesainato8051]

5 star is incredibly reliable. And I don’t have any benefit for saying that. Just like livernois. They have these EB tunes down. I had 120000 on my last EB tuned and not a mechanical issue

[@Pilot545]

Agreed! I've been running their E50 tune on my 2018 F-150 for over a year now. I have about 12,000 miles now and no issue...and TONS of smiles!! :)

[@jimshorts6751]

5 Star tuned 2018 F150 shortbed XL 3.5 track hound. Low 11's and on its 20th pass, scattered the crank after ingesting the turbos. Not 5 🌟's fault, Ford fault for a bad turbo bearing and me beating the snoteroonies out of it. 13,500 miles. Cost me $ 12,000 to repair as it took out the radiator and all the AC components as well. My neighbors 1975 D150 with a Supercharged Junkyard 5.7 has a seasons full of loudpeddle debauchery and still spec's out within 3% of factory. Mind you, we picked up the motor for $2500 with trans and $5k for the Supercharger. Gotta pay to play !

[@Sak-zo1ui]

When running boost on an engine it is bound to break. Upgrading hardware will give you longevity and better performance. This is a cheap way out of upgrading your vehicle. The 6.4 in the durango if rebuilt on the bottom end will give endless miles. Also what about the drive lines with the tunes?!?! If you drive it like it should be driven it will wear down. This tune just decreases that time.

[@BreckoniousMaximus]

5 star is a great company, but I'd give More Power Tunes the edge. MPT shift points are on point!

[@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering]

That is a killer tuned ST! However, the SRT wasn't far behind it, AND the SRT still retains its factory warranty. I'd be willing to bet that tune on the ST completely obliterated the factory drivetrain warranty.

[@DmanLucky_98]

Ford Engineers: Turbo everything... Dodge Engineers: V8 everything... Chevy Engineers: We don't know what we're doin... Gmc Engineers: We got trucks...?

[@ecoboostrules9795]

Lmfao. Good one. 👌👍✋

[@nickaguirre8804]

Very underrated comment! 🤣🤣

[@ecoboostrules9795]

@@nickaguirre8804 what do you mean, its spot on.

[@nickaguirre8804]

ecoboost rules underrated by only having 9 likes Incase you didn’t understand.

[@ecoboostrules9795]

@@nickaguirre8804 ok. Wasnt real sure which way you were going with that. Lol

[@Droopy578]

Turbos make a V6 fast. But a naturally aspirated V8, is always a beautiful sound, PERIOD !!

[@dancarthen3634]

That fuel economy of the v6 tho!

[@Droopy578]

Daniel Carthen true. But add a couple more gears to the transmission and that V8 will get even high mpgs on the highway and it will balance out to a good number when you average it out with the city mpg.

[@stevenB92096]

DavGo the 8 speed FCA uses is beautiful. I can get 30 mpg with my Challenger R/T at 70-75 mph

[@everettclunie3525]

StevenB96 30 mpg? That’s impressive. The best I can get my 5.0 f150 on the highway is 23. And that’s with the 10 speed

[@stevenB92096]

Everett Clunie at what speed? The 30 mpg is with my 5.7 kicking down to 4 cylinders. If I keep it in 8 at the speeds I mentioned I can still get 25-27 or so. I normally drive at like 80 (live in FL) and get about 22-24 overall

[@anthonykindle9377]

7:20 to skip all the bs.

[@JamarD421]

Thank you

[@aggressor5448]

So, the stock Durango SRT is better and faster than the stock Explorer ST. Thanks. 👌

[@goeffdouge8456]

Fabio Jara but with 600 dollars you get a way better advantage

[@mirokhon4901]

Thank you

[@cenoholmes7215]

Anthony Kindle thank you

[@itsmyshoe7391]

Man...The way the Explorer ST launches is so satisfying, I love the way the front lifts up when it launches. Reminds me of a Range Rover Sport SVR.

[@sillycarnerd665]

In 30 years when these are clapped out, I'll finally be able to afford one.

[@northdakotaham1752]

The doors and fenders will be rusted off in five years, guaranteed. After well over 100 years of building car bodies, they still cant build one that doesnt rust through in short order. The firmware and electronics will be obsolete in three years just like a laptop computer from Walmart. All the fancy little blinky, video game lights wont get you from point A to point B. Neither Ford nor Fiat will have parts to fix them after seven years and even if they did, the cost of labor will exceed the value of the vehicle. All these guys are building is high tech, extremely expensive car crusher fodder.

[@solofalcon]

@@northdakotaham1752 My 2014 Dart GT has no rust

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@solofalcon depends upon where you live. I live in the rust belt. Five years, you have plenty of rust.

[@ZACH_95_]

North Dakota Ham I have a 2005 f150 with very little rust on it. So you’re wrong. 👏🏻👏🏻😂

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@ZACH_95_ very little rust.... but rust just the same. You proved my point.

[@jbrap7198]

How much horsepower should our new family suv have Dodge: yes

[@tontonmc8836]

Jbrap How often you have to pay for gas? Maserati- Huh?

[@franciscorodriguez6967]

Lmaoooooooooooo

[@lovescamaros1]

@@tontonmc8836 gas and mpg are irrelevant these days! we don't buy big v8's for mpg!

[@tshombeford4314]

😂😂😂

[@charlespetersonii6989]

SRT=Smiles per gallon 😁

[@spencerson7516]

The ability to throw a literal light whale to 60 in 5 seconds or less is unnervingly incredible. Can't wait for the crazy police chases in a few years

[@adamf1944]

😂 Yeah it'll mostly be Dodge since the hood loves then

[@jojmon9153]

Now get the Durango tuned by Greene Racing and test them again.

[@brodybetts5143]

Joj Mon won’t make much difference for a n/a motor you won’t get the gains the st got

[@jojmon9153]

Brody Betts 40-50hp is nothing to be sleeping on.

[@Rexcation]

@@brodybetts5143 My 2015 Chrysler 200S 3.6L picked up 40ish horse from a tune. Mopars are super conservatively tuned from the factory

[@rsdna9698]

@@jojmon9153 No way you could get 40-50hp from that NA motor with only software changes. Maybe 10-15...

[@jojmon9153]

RSD N/A totally possible. Mopar are so untuned is not even funny. My 5.7 ram truck gained around 40hp from just a custom engine tune and transmission tune.

[@marcjohnson6515]

Sooo 4.8 sec on a TUNED st or 5.01 on hemi... I'd pick v8 all day

[@TFLcar]

After more practice, Andre got the tunes Explorer to 4.5 sec 0-60 mph.

[@ervinzefi8662]

The Fast Lane Car Still not a big gap considering that the Durango is factory .

[@saudabrahams]

@@ervinzefi8662 you wont get as much in terms of a performance upgrade when tuning the Hemi

[@ervinzefi8662]

Saud Abrahams just a torque converter will give about a half a second in 0-60 . This video is obvious that is a commercial for the tuning company . Not taking anything from the ST or the company that tuned , but with forced induced engines a tune is all you need for HP increase . Let’s not forget that the Durango is e few years old and ST is a freshly produced SUV .

[@ervinzefi8662]

Cletus Zimmerman The chassis on the Explorer is brand new. 10 speed tranny brand new. Third gen ecoboost has 80% new internals so .. yeah is brand new. On the other hand everything on the Durango is from 2014.

[@herefishyfishy6907]

First thing I'd do with the ST, get rid of those craptastic mufflers.

[@trancross7040]

Most def👊🏽

[@slomango7927]

HereFishyFishy that’s right unleash the weed eater

[@bmanclassics4350]

Id just trade it for the Durango...

[@charleshenson4183]

Why,you aren't going to make it sound any better. I've had 2 ecoboost & the factory exhaust note is something you'll have to learn to deal with

[@herefishyfishy6907]

@@charleshenson4183 there is options.

[@rigged4detonation142]

Dodge: hold my beer.......7-2-2020 announces hellcat Dodge Durango.

[@burtonh1]

Dodge= "Hold my beer" LOL

[@jshapiro34]

A Mopar owner that's after speed.....hold my beer (Jay Greene - hemi fever tuning) bye bye Ford and Chevy

[@matthewwideman2824]

Well hello here I am with Tesla

[@jimmya9064]

Gt500 Shelby Ford Explorer announced

[@bryang8311]

Matthew Wideman electric cars are for females

[@porscheguy09]

Just imagine how much power you would gain if you upgraded the intercoolers, air intake, down pipes and exhaust along with the tune. Their claimed 100 horsepower gain at the wheels equals about 525-550 horsepower at the crank if not more. Just with a tune.

[@sufficetosay]

Tranny would probably blow up lol.

[@KClife9TV]

Lol. Good by Engine and trans

[@limbeboy7]

this video just proved that horsepower is not the answer to everything. cutting weight and things like AWD play a big roll in acceleration than people pay attention to

[@benbradley3872]

​@KClife9 the 3.0l TT from ford has a 10r60 that is good up to 650~ hp and has forged internals. Engine and Trans are fine. And with FBO and tuned on e50 will beat trackhawks. Before calling bs go ahead and look up the videos these STs are monsters after giving them some love. And you're still cheaper than a trackhawk or hellcat durango.

[@KClife9TV]

@@benbradley3872 these cars are junk. Do your research and you'll see they are heavy on transmission issues

[@paladin11C40]

I would love to see the SRT Durango against the top of the line Aviator, which has 494hp and 630tq. Great video

[@sylviofleurant2507]

Me too

[@rdyoungdds]

Warlock 06 early testing of it shows it isn’t any faster than an Explorer ST. Although it has more power, it is about 1000 lbs heavier due to the battery

[@jmcrjc6799]

@@sylviofleurant2507 e

[@paladin11C40]

@@rdyoungdds Thats too bad, I was hoping.

[@rc7435]

Different vehicles, put it against the trackhawk

[@mr.boostang2064]

Very fast Explorer, might not live long with that much heat being generated tho. A larger intercooler, 160°F thermostat and a large transmission cooler will greatly help this tuned Explorer live a long and happy life

[@dannyjr7997]

Also Oil Catch Cans are very needed for engines life. Totally agree on trans cooler.

[@hajjdawood]

@@dannyjr7997no need, this ecoboost switches between port and direct injection to clean itself out

[@gregdcross]

The Durango SRT also has issues with high engine oil temps, so any time you ask an engine to produce a lot of power in a limited space, you will have temp problems.

[@chickenwithasombrero7641]

When karen and Susan start beefing in the streets:

[@toweringhorse2054]

Criminally underrated comment

[@teaganna5970]

Who can get to the PTA meeting first?

[@RadDadisRad]

When Ken and Chad start beefing

[@capolean2902]

martha sits back with her jeep srt lol

[@hooniken6940]

🤣

[@dougifresh4422]

Jeep Trackhawk: "am I a joke to you?"

[@edge20081990]

DOUGI FRESH fastest 3-row...

[@jackthompson852]

Trackhawk is 2 row

[@DP-nk4vu]

😂😂😂😂

[@lclnbm]

Gas mileage: yes you are. 😆 Btw dont crucify me. I love the Trackhawk as much as the next Dodge fan.

[@ramirosanchez2103]

Jake Jones ok then the Tesla model X will destroy all three... but don’t get me wrong I love the Durango Srt

[@HeatingAC]

@ $13,000 less, I’d spend the $600 on the ST and take the fuel economy too!

[@Starky513]

And the reliability

[@nothrottlelimit]

@@Starky513 I work at Ford..... The Ecoboost is far from reliable....

[@kaymharla7504]

@@Starky513 “the reliability” hahahahahaha

[@Starky513]

@@nothrottlelimit funny because mine has 320,000KM and is still towing my boat like it's not there...

[@Starky513]

@@kaymharla7504 mine has 320,000KM and still tows my boat without fail.

[@Mixwell1983]

I wouldnt mind having the stock st explorer in a charcoal grey with black rims. They look soo clean, however the exhaust note from the Durango is beast.

[@A.ChristopherJohnson]

Word Mopar All Day !!

[@YusufGinnah]

Yeah, no replacement for displacement... Especially true with that growl.. Now they need to '5 star' the Dodge..

[@tylercouture216]

Until you see a police interceptor with the exact same spec which you will pretty soon

[@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8]

that Durango is a Big Time Gas Sucker

[@Mixwell1983]

Look perhaps I am comparing apples to orange but I dont get the whole no replacement foe displacment. Its always said with gas turbos yet nobody bats an eye on a turbo diesel.. What im asking/saying is turbo diesels are known to be reliable so why does everyone thing gas turbos are gona break ? Maybe diesels are more stout or what? This is a genuine question, what's the difference. I know diesels drive trains are stout for the torque but seems like everyones rebuttle is "its gona cost a fortune when tje turbo breaks" but yet turbo diesels are just fine.

[@AB-jp6xe]

I have a 2013 Ford Explorer with over 460,000 miles on it. I purchased it as a family hauler with about 60,000 miles on it. I unintentionally had to use it as a courier vehicle for 97% of those miles. I haven't changed any major parts or had any major parts failures!?!?! I must have one of the best built fords on the planet!

[@Macsleuth]

Love both of them. Nice to know there are tunes out there that can wake up the Ford. Would love to see a tuned SRT as well.

[@DWH300]

Turning the Durango will cost a lot more than $600. You can tune the Durango and you'll likely still get smoked by the tuned ST. My new Chrysler 300C 5.7 cost $3000 for a tune to get a dyno tested 50 horsepower. Frankly a waist of money. The Explorer ST is s fantastic SUV in stock form. For the extremely low amount of $600. You can gap the Hemi Durango. The Explorer is an easy choice.

[@buzzsantana6637]

@@DWH300bro you paid 3k for a 5.7 hemi tune ? No offense but you were robbed hard ...

[@name5293]

​@@DWH300 you're talking out of your ass. This is literally stock vs tuned. You fail to realize that the ST needed to be tuned to keep up. I mean, common sense doesn't ring a bell?

[@beto_lsx497]

@@DWH300lmao just because u got ripped off .... any dyno session cost around 600 not 3000

[@GMbowtie350]

@@DWH300No offense but a 5.7 anything is a waste of money.

[@nathankestin1922]

The content from TFL continues to get better and better keep it up guys!!

[@davidn5861]

I never clicked so fast.

[@zacharyjones7948]

Imagine pulling up on a Civic at a light in your Ford explorer towing a wholeass boat and then walking it 💀💀💀💀

[@blooddrunk1432]

bruh civic are 150hp lol

[@zacharyjones7948]

@@blooddrunk1432 The joke was aimed at Civic drivers lol... I realize that they don't come with insane horsepower stock, but civic drivers swear by them and it's always fun seeing them getting humbled 😂

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

They’ll both sound terrible lol 😂

[@n0tlance314]

You can probably walk faster than a civic lol

[@doylee469]

That thought is what is making people buy these turds.. biggg deallll

[@tjmower321]

Great now cops are going to get their explorers tuned

[@NewDeereMan]

Some do have different tunes.

[@igiveuponhumanity9238]

Deere Gear of Northeast GA Incorrect. There's not an agency in the USA that "tunes" their patrol vehicles in 2019. Warranty and longevity of all engine-related components (drivetrain, differentials, & axles included) are the main goals of every agency when it comes to money spent on patrol units. Any custom tuning would also present a blatant liability issue for any occurence that could be even remotely attributed to any vehicle performance modifications beyond the mods of retrofitted emergency equipment (and there are already very specific guidelines & requirements for aftermarket equipment installations).

[@NewDeereMan]

@@igiveuponhumanity9238 agree to disagree. This is ford tuning not Joe blow tuning vs Ford's. There was even article from Ford stating this.

[@igiveuponhumanity9238]

Deere Gear of Northeast GA The context of Tj Mower's comment, which I realize is a joke, was that police will have their patrol Explorers "tuned." My point is that aftermarket tuning will not occur on police vehicles. If you're referring to the differences in civilian versions of a vehicle versus the police-specific / Special Service Package variations and calibrations, then I concur... but that's been hapening since the early '80s that I know of without researching it, and likely beforehand as well. Take care

[@NewDeereMan]

@@igiveuponhumanity9238 we are on the same page then👌

[@lbnewell23]

Omg the tuned explorer needs some tuned suspension coz it basically does a wheelie 😆

[@xjmg007]

Wieght transfer is your friend at the strip.

[@Treyk901]

My tuned F-150 does this too and the front wheels will slip.

[@xjmg007]

@@Treyk901 for sure rebound matters more if you're power is front Biased. Especially on Fwd, but most awd systems are rear Biased in the power split so the rear wieght transfer is important.

[@justinluttrell1769]

Softer suspension in back is preferable for launches. In fact the new mustang with magnaride softens the rear suspension intentionally for launches.

[@Treyk901]

John G mine is a true 4x4 - 50/50 split front to back with a locked rear diff. 5 Star’s tune on the 3.5 Ecoboost makes so serous power, enough to make all the tires slip at launch. I have very good tires too.

[@AK_Jesus]

This channel is better than what motor trend used to be. Keep it up guys.

[@GingerO762]

I think everyone is forgetting that the explorer with a tune is still much cheaper than the competitor

[@Balkanmotorsports]

You’re forgetting the explorer st gets you to 65k. That’s about the same price of a base srt durango guy.

[@peytonlove2598]

that’s simply not true.. this ain’t ya grandmas explorer lmao

[@GingerO762]

Peyton Love bought one for my wife for $48k new

[@GingerO762]

Night Kruzer bought one for my wife $48k new. Msrp doesn’t mean anything

[@danielvisintainer3352]

@@Balkanmotorsports so what you’re saying is that a fully loaded ST with this tune is still cheaper than a base Durango?

[@davidn5861]

I love the Durango SRT!

[@teotoniobass6681]

Yesss

[@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8]

Expect to make 2 to 3 trips to the Gas Pumps a week

[@SteelTimeify]

@@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 wrong, I have an SRT Jeep with the 6.4L and I fill up once a week.

[@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8]

EPA-Rated Fuel Economy: 13/19 mpg Durango SRT and that's before you step on it

[@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering]

@@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 Repeat after me... SMILES-per-gallon. Not "miles". 😁

[@smr0m670]

I would love the Explorer ST, amazing vehicle But, you can't beat the pure american hemi v8

[@pechmichaelchristina2640]

I’d still take Durango in a heart beat. Crazy number on the ford tho

[@jordangraf673]

Yeah with a tune and special fuel

[@Twittavelli]

Thats ford is trash, and imagine that Tune on the Durango

[@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8]

@@Twittavelli - what do you mean?

[@Twittavelli]

@@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 I hate how they messed up the explorer. used to love the look of it, now its tacky.

[@justinconn9343]

The fiat Chrysler barge is trash! I’d take either ford in a minute! 5900 pounds! Wtf! It needs 500 hp to get out of its own way!

[@gecko56]

0:12 god damn that explorer lifting up!

[@wthutch7882]

I would still get a Durango all day If for no other reason than the Durango is a badass without any tuning

[@FlyingFalcon77]

One of the least reliable SUVs money can buy, though. Not just the SRT, but the Durango in general

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Dakota bullshit

[@dtay8913]

@@Welcometofacsistube I agree Alex on autos has owned one with 0 issues not to mention someone in my family owns one and it's been fine so far.

[@frooz442]

@@FlyingFalcon77 I've seen a bunch of both old AND newer Durangos run perfectly fine, so I don't know what you're saying. Durangos tend to be one of FCA's more well built products. I can't say the same about some newer Explorers, they are powerful and good looking but I'd still be leery about the EB's. Older ones ran pretty good though

[@lbnewell23]

Fruitably same applies with all range rovers I’ve been in and known of within people I know and that’s a lot of range rovers i live in England and every person with even a bit of extra cash has a Range Rover and guess what no issues but what do all you Americans think of them ??

[@Emilthehun]

Finally someone who does modified car test. Please keep this a trend tfl. And the explorer is mad fast! But how long can it live with that power?

[@Dr.PhilGood78]

Longer than the life of that Durango transmission. They're junk as they age.

[@jasoncarter251]

@@Dr.PhilGood78 the 8 speed is tried and true. The 6 was trash

[@razvanmihalache5680]

@Dean Toma It's because it's in a FiAt PrOdUcT

[@Dr.PhilGood78]

@Dean Toma Butt hurt much? I actually was referring to it being in a fiat product. Ever heard of everything you touch breaks or turns to trash? Same concept. I don't like Chrysler products and never will. That company gets passed around like a bad potato.

[@MrSamwiseable]

Dean Toma hahaha exactly. People LOOVE to praise Honda or Toyota and trash anything American made.

[@midwest9040]

Really fun comparison! I am kind of surprised though that you don't do an actual 1/4 mile as opposed to 1/8 mile which would be more of a historical and industry standard.

[@Two99Point80]

True, but the 1/8 still covers the range of speeds that would be used on the street. These are daily drivers, not track cars.

[@kykrazy6050]

The V8 sound is just BEEEEEAAAAUUUUUTIFUL!!!!!

[@bartismoellis1052]

Hay wifey when you put gas in your new car would you mind mixing in some e85 ya right.

[@danielbeltran3343]

They should of tuned it on supream fuel only.

[@bryanhersman4037]

@@danielbeltran3343 But it would have lost, It already was really close, they needed every scrap of power they could find and then were just praying the driveshaft held up.

[@derekortiz3663]

"Sure thing, green's the same as yellow right? Cause that's what I used!"

[@BLACK05GO1]

@@danielbeltran3343 Yes, the E85 Tune was a bad idea. The average person will just want a tune and not have to deal with E85.

[@03mm24]

@@derekortiz3663 😬

[@prime77089]

Every time I see a boat like that I think “Dexter”.

[@smokeu600]

Hahaha I was thinking the same.

[@jeremybowden4363]

Slice of Life

[@icu6585]

Oh man gawdamn

[@kevinkern3848]

That's what I'm watching now, and this video.

[@jiml4987]

Stop ruining my childhood. I grew up on a similar boat in Lake Erie. After watching the series, I feel the same and want to drive into a hurricane...

[@sts3427]

13K price difference is more than just a small edge. Add $700 for the tune and tuner and the Fords a no brainer.

[@JamisonMK3]

Not that cut and dry for me. I’m not really in the mood to add e85 to my fuel every time I fill up while losing stock reliability.

[@skywalker2852]

Maybe I'm overly cautious, but 168lb-ft is a lot of torque to add with no change in hardware. I'm guessing the bill will soon be over $700 when something breaks and the warranty is void (I'm assuming this tune voids the warranty, right?)

[@davidscott4849]

Sky Walker It absolutely does. A powertrain failure in this vehicle will cost you 12k out of pocket if the EEPROM has been reflashed. Mode 9 vehicle information stored in the PCM easily and quickly gives the telltale. Leave it stock. These vehicles are having serious issues out of the gate. Google 2020 explorer Chicago assembly plant. There is multiple articles on it. They are having to ship tens of thousands of these things from South Chicago to Flat Rock Michigan to be reworked due to false builds. And paying crews around the clock to fix the plethora of issues due to the misbuilds..

[@scbird1]

Well I got a 3.8 0-60 in my old Ecoboost 2012 MKS Lincoln with just a tune, plugs, 3bar map and intake + 93 octane and its full weight and heavy. About 4800 LBS Looks like the Sho`s will show you who`s boss! Got to love Livernois. They may not be the best tune for all out power but the car has over 100k now with no break downs.

[@z71ben43]

Missed a opportunity to take that boat on the dragstrip and compare times

[@lytning3]

this is the most underrated comment on the video

[@Duhme1]

I'll take the v8 hemi and the factory warranty.

[@nickaguirre8804]

Logan Koller so Fords don’t get warranty?

[@Duhme1]

@@nickaguirre8804 not if you tune it.

[@3SevenStangVids]

@@Duhme1 Not true, I'm a service advisor at ford. We don't care

[@rt4t-917]

What ford doesn’t know, ford will never know haha.

[@derekortiz3663]

Hahahaha, wont save you.

[@paulrathjen5594]

I never had my SRT Jeep ever go over 4.5 0-60 and typically was 4.2-4.3. Still impressed by the explorer ST and Tarus Sho with a tune. Not sure how long they will last tuned though.

[@PeePee666PooPoo]

Don't forget the Fusion Sport :)

[@AsalynStone]

i agree but could they do a comparison with a tuned e85 durango? fair is fair right

[@RJC-ps6wc]

And you can probably kiss the factory warranty goodbye once you have the tune!

[@anaccount7923]

@@RJC-ps6wcYou don’t buy these cars to keep them stock lmao

[@JasonParham83]

I have to admit, I'm super impressed that not only did the ford win but all of that extra HP was gained for $600. A new king has arrived.

[@jacobchaney]

Hellcat Durango came out the following year after this video. RIP Explorer😅

[@plugmenace8513]

@@jacobchaney it’s still rip Durango

[@OnlyOriginalNinja]

@@jacobchaneyConsidering it’s nearly double the price, they’re nowhere near comparable lmao

[@TheSweetswed]

Its not like you can't add a turbo n tune the srt or srt jeep

[@arizonacolour8793]

And I don't think I saw a cold air intake, so that would have to come in too

[@briank7457]

The stock ST puts up respectable numbers given it's sporting the narrower stock 20 inch tires (255s) vs the wider tires on the stock SRT (295s) & tuned ST (275s). Really show the difference between the weight on the 2 models, nearly 800 lbs on published curb weight between the SRT and ST

[@danmagill7616]

Would love to see a coyote 5L dropped into the explorer. It’s been a while since there was a V8 option in it. We all know now how many ponies Ford could get out of that engine if they wanted to. No need for a tune...an Explorer “GT”?? Oh and that glorious exhaust note...

[@givemesometime8405]

Ford play things safe

[@krystalstackhouse4134]

They should put a hellcat motor in a Durango

[@georgeschoonover368]

Now we would be talking!!

[@robertogiles307]

They are next year

[@redneckguitar6539]

That is a hellcat engine

[@s1lv3rbull37]

Jeep Trackhawk. (Basically the same thing as a Durango)

[@bigdog3929]

krystal stackhouse would be the best all around vehicle

[@bajj43]

I’d like to see you bring Jeep Grand Cherokee Track Hawk into the mix.

[@ZACH_95_]

It’ll fall apart during the race. Pure junk. 👏🏻😂

[@charlesdawkins4341]

Saw one parked at a gas station but not getting gas... it was broke down. 🤣🤣

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

@@charlesdawkins4341 usually the owners fault. 😂act like Ford is know for their reliability

[@magikzebra6552]

TrackHawk would kill them both...

[@crazylegshotsauce.2124]

track hawk doesn't have a third row or else it would've been here. But, it is the fastest SUV available.

[@IncognitoBoi545]

It seems like Ford is doing everything in their power to not use a V8.

[@rj6110]

ikr? why does chevys 60k mid engined corvette supercar come with a v8 and the half-million dollar GT come with a v6

[@300kMiles]

For commercial cars it makes sense, as a v6 with a turbocharger can produce comparable horsepower to a standard v8 and get better gas mileage. As for sports cars idk.

[@4468861989]

Epa

[@anthonymolina7416]

what it’s faster than the vette even with a v6

[@peterfokinpan8063]

maybe cause they are smart..... idk

[@fab12xd]

They need to start putting coyotes on those explorers

[@klasseact6663]

Why???

[@fab12xd]

@@klasseact6663 why not? Lmao

[@klasseact6663]

@@fab12xd it's an SUV, who cares.

[@TheSlow281]

They did before. I don't see why not now

[@klasseact6663]

@@TheSlow281 they did what before, V8's, weak ones! The Take rate is much higher on the Eco boost engines in the pick up trucks so why would they change?

[@lightningvolt1273]

When I saw the boat I thought he was gonna run it on the track 😂😂😂😂

[@2KCamaroZ28SS]

5 Star Tuning is truly a remarkable company. Fantastic tunes. And great customer service.

[@McBeamer94]

I like the ease of tuning of a turbo engine (+100hp in Stage 1 for less than $600? Hell yeah!) but a NA V8 is always a better choice when longevity comes in the mix. Also, don't be fooled by the smaller turbocharged engines here, as many of them are constantly kept in the boost to get the cars moving. Which means they end up consuming roughly the same amount of fuel as their larger NA comparables, not to mention the greater wear coming from the extensive boost time!

[@paulhunter9613]

Don’t be fooled with the small v8, lots of stresses on it when getting it up to speed, they are sluggish until 4000 rpm

[@mattbarker1411]

@@paulhunter9613 lol as someone whose driven every dodge V8 offering.... No they aren't.....

[@paulhunter9613]

@@mattbarker1411 I was referring to the ford five oh

[@Mr.Ramirez95]

Editing my comment so no one knows why I got so many likes. 🤭

[@danielboatright6977]

Gotta love the federal reserve

[@brentlawler792]

"That's what I like about these car prices, they go up and my wages stay the same" Matthew McConaughey

[@tmfeldman3990]

I keep telling people to stop waiting for prices to drop. Seriously, everyone is always amazed that prices just go up, like it's just a phase.

[@DarkSplash99]

Chevy needs to being back the Trailblazer SS.......

[@MindzEnt]

It’s called capitalism.

[@willboyd7794]

This was a great comparison But do apple to apple Have tuned Dodge and tuned Ford see what happens Tuned vehicles to the drag races !!

[@Dyesnipa]

you wouldnt get as much from just a tune in a n/a but I still like the durango more

[@jeffos69]

William Barbour you get way more power out of tuning turbo vehicles

[@willboyd7794]

@@jeffos69 Hahaha You don't know what are talking about Hahaha

[@jeffos69]

William Barbour are you sure? Ok you know best.

[@ecoboostrules9795]

That's not apples to apples dumbass. The EcoBoost only had 400 hp. The durango has 475. So hows it apples that way. God people like you have your head so far up your ass it's not funny. It's a 3.0 vs a 6.4. What the hell more do you need.

[@michaelalberson126]

I am a Ford guy and in the case of these 2 competitors Imagine a explorer with a 7.3 Godzilla Ford engine. I think you already know the outcome as the 7.3 explorer would dominate the outcome. The Ford products after 150000 miles also remain rattle free In the interior of the vehicle and the engines are still performing As they did when new. The Ford will not be using oil to speak of either. T Chrysler product however will have numerous rattles in the interior and be using a much larger amount of oil than the ford. And we have not mentioned overall fuel consumption or MPG as the Ford will be the most economical to operate between the two competing brands. F O R D Rules in my book and I know because I have owned several throughout the years.

[@khackett7]

Explorer is sharp looking too. Saw an ST today and couldn’t take my eyes off it.

[@tylercouture216]

Maybe because you thought it was a police interceptor

[@howtobeatadrum]

Mr. TAMW haha

[@davidwiger6024]

Tesla Model X P100D Ludicrous factory stock: 920 Ft-Lb torque at the wheels 588 Hp 7.3 seconds at the 1/8 mile at 96.7 mph 0-60 about 2.8 seconds

[@wantsanewvehicle]

Yes, but almost 2x as expensive as either of these vehicles. If money is not a problem, as I assume it isn't that big of a deal if you are purchasing either of these vehicles anyways, then hell yeah go for a p100d mX!

[@kevinkern3848]

One problem, it's electric.

[@ggjatz2435]

Kevin Kern word I still will drive a nice sounding but slow car than a fast but no sound at all car

[@SuperchargedMM]

You really can’t compare the 2.

[@souljah2light]

Lol let's see a Tesla tow

[@ThatWhiteGLI]

11:47 " the Ford has a small Edge." Ford Pun? Lol

[@johnwheeler2754]

Lol

[@user-kc8yo9yy7o]

Lol

[@offroad5798]

Cool. Now test a tuned SRT Durango vs a tuned Explorer ST 😏

[@ZACH_95_]

Than you could just tune the explorer even more. Keep on going bud.. 😂👏🏻

[@scat3926]

@@ZACH_95_ so we always got to give the explorer the advantage

[@angeljennings3317]

@@scat3926 explorers are better hahaha

[@scat3926]

@@angeljennings3317 actually no they aren't the explorer is technically marketed as a full size SUV meaning Durango wins that by default also I've been in an explorer shit was more cramped then the backseat of a challenger the car on the inside was very tacky with switches for auto driving amd the car looks impregnated compared to last gen before space lift and a nontumed explorer and a non tuned srt. Durango I'm taking Durango to the hotel and taking explorer to gapplebees

[@scat3926]

@@ZACH_95_ also bud sincw you really think it's necessary to continue hiw about smacking a hellcat engine in that Durango lol you cant do that you could barley fit a 5.0 in that pumy bonnet

[@jwehler1019]

Reaction time vs the blue one was .23 for the durango. And anyone else notice when they raced the with one vs the durango on the time sleep they jumped the light and it showed foul.... Just saying

[@rygi23]

Reaction time has no impact on elapsed time.

[@Guy_de_Loimbard]

My guess is the "hopping" you see is the AWD system variously detecting slip and shifting torque to the other axle, then shifting it back, then detecting slip, shifting torque to the other axle, shifting it back, etc

[@ferretkiller9454]

Wheel hop is due to the stock suspension bushings and control arms allowing a whole bunch of deflection under load. Nvh is a big thing and unfortunately launching doesn’t fit into that lol. Would love to see a properly sorted aftermarket setup.

[@ryans1187]

That hemi v8 sounds great. Got that in my challenger

[@cptpuma3458]

Now I want to see the durango srt hellcat!

[@hanger2633]

It's here

[@yipeeiaye]

Cool - but you gotta make it fair guys. Tune the Hemi and say goodbye to the Ford.

[@Fin.mint.]

Won't matter, both the transmissions in these things are garbage. Andre made a mistake as well, as the Explorer had an 8 speed. Which breaks. All the time.

[@banshee107]

Wish the Durango had a HC heart!

[@rfjohns1]

How about a mod on the Durango also, just to make it fair :)

[@JM-it2zo]

Then people would complain that it’s V8 C’s v6 even though the V8 is NA and the Ford has two turbos 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Alan-tr5uj]

Yeah the obvious choice here would be to get ahold of a hellcat swapped Durango- forced induction vs. forced induction-- BUT that's a little overboard considering the SC 6.2 isn't offered in any Durango trim from the factory, while Ford offers the twin-turbo V6 from factory. I guess we will have to settle for an Explorer ST vs. Jeep Trackhawk comparo if we are ever to see Ford vs. Mopar forced-induction SUV's. I get some may gripe about the 6 vs. 8 angle, but honestly when you're dealing with forced induction- the amount of cylinders starts to matter much less- boost is a really great equalizer in the "no replacement for displacement" argument.

[@ecoboostrules9795]

Like what. It has a 6.4 hemi. The explorer has a 3.0 EcoBoost. 400 hp hemi 475. What's not fair here? It almost lost stock. Soooooo???? Hmmmmm????

[@almightyanima7023]

@@Alan-tr5uj chrysler is planning on a limited release of a hellcat version of the Durango after they release the next body style for the grand cherokee.

[@fredeb67]

Obviously you did not watch the whole clip or have some type of listening problem.

[@DieselJE]

I feel like they forgot about that huge weight difference somewhere. That's impressive for a much bigger truck X'D. Also.... It's not really "just a tune" if you're using a more combustible fuel.

[@MarioSanchez-qx6yn]

This is the best video out there on the explorer answering everything I was curious about, drag racing with my family, and drag racing with my boat in tow, love it

[@BlueSPARTAN97]

Should’ve tuned both lmao Durango is a beast...

[@BlueSPARTAN97]

Joe Wheeler are you saying a tuned Explore could beat a tuned Durango?

[@msrr1303]

E-DUB tuned Durango wouldn’t have the same gains as the EB engine. Cams, bolt ons and tune should be another story.

[@SuperSurviver71]

E-DUB most likely. Tuning turbo engines does a lot more.

[@brianenochs]

💯 The SRT 392 naturally aspirated V8 is not going to see anywhere near the power and torque gains with just a high octane fuel tune as a forced induction application such as the twin turbo V6 in the Explorer. Although I do feel that the SRT would see enough of a gain with a high octane ethanol tune to give the tuned Explorer a lot closer of a race for sure. Come on guys let's compare apples to apples here.. Tuned Explorer vs. Tuned SRT and stock Explorer vs. stock SRT..

[@sergeysmelnik]

Does nobody realize you cant just "tune" a durango srt? You have to replace the ecu with a hacked one. And the tune will get you 15 hp. You can remove your cats for another 15 hp.

[@AbdullahZahid]

Explorer with the 5.0 would be pretty sweeet, but the tuned explorer is fast AF!

[@DWH300]

So your impressed that a 475 6.2 Hemi Dodge Durango costing between $72,000 up to $80,000 depending on options can beat a loaded $55,000 factory twin turbo V6 Ecoboost 400 Horsepower Ford Explorer ST. Having been in both vehicles. I would purchase the Explorer ST hands down. If I wanted to go faster, add a tune and beat the Durango and save the extra money for the overpriced Durango. If you want performance. Purchase a 2022 rear wheel driving skipping the AWD which reduces some weight and adds better launches at the dragstrip. Frankly. I believe most buy these for family haulers and towing. If you want to go drag racing. Buy the Dodge sedan. Now show me these two SUV on the track.

[@the3leggedhorse]

So I learned that if you modify a vehicle, it makes it faster . Hmm 🤷‍♂️

[@moparfam300c]

Duhhh

[@A42yearoldARAB]

So shocking I know. Especially to 5.0 owners lol

[@factthatdude4059]

😂🤣🤣🤣

[@af7119]

depends on the modification. once i modified my 87 camaro by removing the tires and throwing away the ignition key. thing went slower than ever before.

[@matthewhunter6421]

yeah, but the question is, why not spend considerably less, even with the tune and still outperform the Dodge?

[@mileslumpkin9500]

Gotta love the fake exhaust tips on the Furd... with that said, I’m very impressed. It ran the exact same 8.08 as my 2004 WRX back in the day, and it was considered quick amongst my car peers. For an SUV to be as fast is insane. That’s a 12.4 in the 1/4!

[@TheXdriven2005]

ej20 bby!!! I had one too.

[@nameless5r]

Fastest suv on the planet Trackhawk......... Hold my 🍻

[@xiruhvengex]

He said fastest suv 3 row. Trackhawk is not 3 row but the model x p100d is and will smoke both

[@luisdelpozo9674]

nameless5r Tesla Model X..... hold my batteries

[@jessperez477]

Tesla model x and model y

[@michaeloliver6605]

5 Star tunes are great! Woke my ecoboost expedition up!

[@Tiersmoke92555]

So tune the dodge and do it again.

[@ironbull2003]

Still will lose to a tuned TT set up.

[@JuanGarcia-zq5tp]

Who cares, the Durango looks and sounds way better. The interior is also nicer despite being older too.

[@Hitman_Hugh]

Put a Whipple on it then tune it 👍🏻

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@KamikazeSOF2 that still put them closer in specs. Understandable the output from NA to FA is diffrent but power aside modern turning involves the whole vehicle.

[@Tiersmoke92555]

@@Hitman_Hugh now that's just no contest at all. Even at only 7lb that should be around 600-700 hp

[@MrRonaldabogadie]

they should tune that's badass Rango and find out how fast go.

[@F1FIDY]

zeo fallen won’t pick up as much power as the explorer is boosted.

[@Kevly_]

Tunes don’t do much on an NA V8

[@wy34football]

Yea it won’t do AS much for a naturally aspirated engine BUT it doesn’t need to do AS much. There’s no replacement for displacement.

[@alfrede.neuman8611]

@@wy34football Well....evidently, there is. It's a small displacement V6 with two turbo's and a tune. ;)

[@lovescamaros1]

@@alfrede.neuman8611 forced induction is always the great equalizer but nothing is better than v8's with gobs of boost.

[@mikelliteras397]

Stock Explorer was closer to the Fiat than I thought it would be

[@RCPhotosVideos]

Mike Lliteras sorry the current Durango predates FCA and the Fiat merger.

[@theshield1613]

@@RCPhotosVideos fiat Durango

[@shockburn]

The Durango is actually the WK2 platform that was Mercedes / Chrysler last joint project before fiat was involved. WK2 underpins the durango, grand Cherokee and Mercedes ML SUVs

[@nyxsyn]

It hasn't been fiatized just yet as the others have mentioned. It's still on an older platform. Next gen though, may be another story. Rumored to be on the alfa romeo platform.

[@ShaneMckinley-dc9sx]

Mike Lliteras so true

[@motorcyclestig8539]

Coming from a srt8 jeep owner these are the fastest 3 row GAS engine SUVs because im pretty sure the tesla model x p100d is considered a 3 row and we all know the damage that thing does. Its hard to find anyone calling the tesla model x a 3 row for some odd reason but It has 3 rows and seats 7 so they need to throw out GAS engine when they say fastest 3 row. Just saying.

[@Iconhulk]

Dammmmmmnnnnn that tuned Explorer Was SIIIICK..... !!

[@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering]

I would love to see a supercharged SRT versus a Trackhawk!

[@raulchaidez2946]

No mames that's pretty much the same shit

[@raulchaidez2946]

A track hawk is supercharged

[@wafflehousechevy]

Are we just supposed to ignore the tuned explorer leaving early?

[@6.2Slomaro]

J. S. Still had better time and trap speed 🤷‍♂️

[@blacke.blackerton5430]

Exactly.....

[@blacke.blackerton5430]

@@6.2Slomaro even though the tuned Explorer left early, you are correct on overall trap speed....

[@NorthernCommando]

they weren't comparing who crossed the line first. It was all about comparing ET's.

[@tonymarino1730]

Yes!

[@moonblue3312]

The first vehicle my husband and I bought when we got married was a Dodge Ram, the next was a Dodge Durango GT. I will never buy another brand of car. I’ve been unfortunate and had accidents in both the truck and Durango and the other cars ended up worse than ours. Performance is amazing and protected my family in both accidents.

[@xjmg007]

Ford gained almost exactly 1mph per 10hp. Pretty cool. In the 1/4 the gap would be intense.

[@iPROxIAMROCK]

John G You’re not wrong but they definitely should’ve raced the Jeep srt it weights like 600+ pound less would’ve been closer and more fun

[@EDHBlvd]

This was exactly the video I was looking for. You guys rock.

[@Zakatak360]

Aww man I was waiting for them to drag race with boats attached! Those STs are everywhere now and I can see why lol.

[@jerryrobinson5163]

It appears that Henry Ford left more than just his legacy behind him. He left behind a very great innovative company. So all you Ford haters out there just suck It up.

[@mikeoxlong6351]

Ford’s recipe: add turbos at the expense of reliability... Dodge: Just put a damn good V8 naturally aspirated engine in an SUV...

[@davidpatrick8153]

Ford: let's make a much less expensive, much better mpg SUV with a much better ride and interior than Fiat.

[@kylestewart8049]

that new explorer is damn good looking. Durango needs a refresh fo sho! keep the 392 tho 😎. and no way am i turning up my family wagon and voiding my warranty. ain’t happnin

[@harleyjackson5513]

New Explorer is very nice!

[@ratedrodwoods5716]

That dodge dont need changing is is beasty

[@ratedrodwoods5716]

But the explore look good

[@stephenmitchum5864]

kyle stewart I am in the mature and I was thinking how in the hell did Ford come out with a new SUV that looks so dam dated and ugly especially the interior . I also wondered how Dodge was able to have such a dated SUV that still looked so good.

[@stephenmitchum5864]

Market lol not mature

[@allenvaldez3555]

Man that Tuned explorer takes off 😂

[@kal6844]

The Durango still faster he just don’t know how to drive it

[@fatboyrodriguez7774]

@@kal6844 good joke 😂😂😂

[@Jimmy_MZ]

@@kal6844 nah chief. I love a hemi but that ford hauled ass

[@A-Mafia313]

Durango driver seemed like he didn’t wanna give it gas

[@raymondmosley8332]

@@A-Mafia313 The explorer redlight too

[@stevenp3176]

Durango did pretty good for weighing more than most pickups. They benefit from pretty aggressive gearing though.

[@SCfanIam100]

Not a fair test to special tune your favorite car and not the other one .

[@Burroughsbikebuilds]

Dude, what are you doing towing a boat in the rain like that... it might get wet! Tisk tisk...

[@bryanmchugh1307]

The Durango STARTS at $64,000?! Yeesh! The tuned Ford is a better value..

[@charleshenson4183]

And alot better on fuel which adds up over time.

[@firstname5912]

Yeah it’s a better value. Until it has like 50k miles and THEN you’ll see the difference

[@charleshenson4183]

@@firstname5912 Than it'll be an even better value,because by that time you would have saved thousands on fuel 🏁

[@guerrerok90]

Charles henson dont forget the maintenance on a twin turbo ford 😂

[@firstname5912]

@kgbboxer right!!

[@TheRegisteringisgay]

Explorer sounds like doo doo. I'd rather have the durango by far.

[@TheRegisteringisgay]

@InnerGuide no bite? Looks like it handed the stock ford its ass

[@AlineaEuros]

@@TheRegisteringisgay it did, and hemis also have a ton of tunability options too, not sure what that other fool is talking about.

[@goldenchildxx4015]

Dodge always been kicking but since the 80's 😎

[@B0RRAC0]

So in essence, you need to tune a Ford to even compete with a stock Dodge?! Not to mention the DELICIOUS V8 sound!!! Based off sound ALONE, I'll take the Dodge any day!

[@kkellerk23]

@@devinbender8428 I'm a dodge man. And I would take the Ford all day long. Fiat has been inflating the prices lately. And haven't been selling much because of it.

[@B0RRAC0]

I do think the Ford is better looking! I just love the big V8 engine of the Dodge! Got rid of my 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit for a BMW X5 M and absolutely regretted it! Even my wife hated the sound of the BMW!

[@oscaramador4200]

Of course you need to tune a small 3.0 to beat a stock Hemi with more than twice the displacement.

[@gregmatson1470]

The price on the window and the price they actually sell for are worlds apart. As the Explorer is new, I'm sure most will sell for close to MSRP for a little while. Dodge on the other hand still has new 2018 and 2019 Durango SRTs sitting on dealer lots that can be had for $10k+ off MSRP easily as the 2020 models are now arriving. With the money saved, throw a TVS2650 on the Durango and ask for a rematch.

[@RickJohnson]

How would the 5-star compare on a pump gas tune?

[@jfsecrist]

Yes, agreed. Apples to apples would have been nice.

[@djrandol3841]

Not to mention their DSRT way under performed from the average DSRT.

[@Jaylovescars]

No kidding. I love how nonchalant they are about mixing to e50 like it's no big deal. It makes a huge difference, especially with a boosted car. Not to mention e85 isn't available everywhere. Dead middle of the Rocky Mountains here and no e85 pumps within 75 miles of me. Still enjoyed the video tho.

[@DP-nk4vu]

Jaylovescars my thoughts exactly I was waiting for them to just skip over the fact they run e85 I’ve seen people with boosted cars just do an e85 time and pick up 40whp easy, it makes a huge difference

[@alfrede.neuman8611]

93-Octane and E85 is pump gas. Nothing exotic about it.

[@Edgarr386]

Tuned Explorer: I'm fastest than the SRT Durango Maybe future Hellcat Durango: IMMA bouta end this man's whole career.

[@quig1984m]

Trackhawk!

[@JustinKelly]

@@quig1984m Its not three row which this was about

[@Edgarr386]

@@JustinKelly yes

[@lmcmill5964]

I’m a Jeep Chrysler Dodge guy but I’m slowly being sold to FORD EXPLORER ST. Price is right. Third row seating. 400hp stock and can get a $600 tune that gets me 100 more HP. Yeah, fck it, I’m sold!!