Ford F-150 Raptor vs Ford F-150 3.5L Twin Turbo Drag Race: V6 Turbo vs 6.2L V8

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

I think the performance difference has to do more with Weight rather than Density Altitude. The Raptor = 6006 lbs weighs considerably more than the 2016 F-150 3.5 Ecoboost =4,937 lbs.

[@TFLnow]

+Michael Smith Yes, weight is another huge factor. Although, this F-150 4x4 Limited weighs nearly 5,600 lbs. It also has two loading ramps in the bed. The Raptor has an aftermarket winch that adds weight.

[@badnewskelli]

+TFLnow also the ~95lb of rim and 34.75" tire

[@ه_ه-س4ض]

that why they said All New

[@childskites6346]

that aint the actual of these two vehicles because u werent there to actually weigh it. remember u got human weight and other accessories in vehicle.. plus those numbers u gave arent the weight if these vehicles, u didnt even actually weigh it, no proof

[@robbyboyles8351]

They make a regular Raptor and a Supercharged Raptor ! That was not the Supercharged one ! If it were the supercharged Raptor it would of left that Eco Bust in the dust no matter the weight or altitude !

[@JEREMIAH_TC]

ROMAN- I live in tampa at 10 feet below sea level and the 3.5 ecoboost still eats the 6.2L's lunch

[@DS-TRUCKS]

hey rome. you gotta put the 2.7 head to head with the 3.5

[@W.Vanderbilt]

now put that twin turbo on the 6.2

[@Ale55andr082]

then run with a tank of fuel

[@motortoys9942]

Or just mate the 10 sp with the 6.2

[@fasteddie617]

Will be the same result.

[@trevorc5477]

You should throw the 2.7 twin turbo v6 in there. Those things are ridiculous haha

[@chriswaller4229]

Trevor C. Ill drive mine if they want. Im also in colorado

[@fasteddie617]

2.7 are very fast! My friend has the same year as me. He 2017 2.7, me 3.5. We let them go from a dig one day. 0-60, that fkr was right there with me. I think the difference was, I turned off sport mode as we hit about 65, got off it a bit, then back into it. Started pulling away. You can't run those gears at that speed.

[@TheBasher-_-]

I looked at this, and got that slow smile that creeps across ur face when you done found something cool like sleeper car or... a really good race where it coulddd go either way

[@swampgumpharpy7977]

This was a video that needed to happen.

[@kwd_kenny]

V6 Turbo is faster than an heavy-weighted V8!

[@cooldbz12mach1padilla]

Power to weight ratio is the winner here.

[@StReEtReApEr12R]

put 35s on the Ecoboost and a 10 Speed in the Raptor and run it back. ALOT more at play here than just engines

[@mtxpert]

Couple of things. Love to see that redone with both brake boosting then get Erick from Leading Edge Tuning to shoot you a tune/tuner for both the trucks and try it again. Sea level, mile high the 6.2 won't even be close once both are tuned. Watch out for the 2017's with PFI and DI, we'll be putting E85 into them almost instantly and gaining 100+HP on stock turbos with tune only on E85.

[@erickquinones1095]

what was the distance of the drag race 300ft? definitely didn't look like 1320 or a 1/8 th

[@SC-dt4ij]

does the raptor has select shift ?

[@WreakGaming]

was it a kimg ranch?

[@44annarox]

What drive mode was the Raptor in???

[@childskites6346]

trucks dont have sport mode , so it is only drive, unless it was a manual

[@LavaStormPlays]

hah, my dad has a 2013 4x4 f-150 eco boost v6. Whenever he turned off the TC The tires were bouncing when he floored it and he hauled ass. Beast of a truck!

[@strigentodin2953]

We have the same truck! just the fx4 package!

[@strigentodin2953]

jldude84 Yup, Uncle has a 2015 ecoboost. We race but we won because ours isn't stock

[@motortoys9942]

Wasn't a huge difference but a little is a lot. Put the 10 speed with the 6.2 and that's that

[@4fastdrs]

Twin turbo charge 3.6 l V6 belongs in a Cadillac CTS-V sport not a truck.

[@johnSmith-el3yv]

wait, are they a mile above sea level?

[@ryanstowe2350]

can you do more ford raptor videos I love them

[@gabrielback5615]

If it was just about winning races, Ford would never sell another 5.0L V8, but they do, and lots of them. I would be one of the buyers.

[@sethsteener]

You can really hear that those turbos spool!

[@richardtherien5162]

What's better than Charlie Sheen showing me the differences between 2 badass trucks lol

[@stokes8851]

I think that u should try that drag race again just to see if the ecoboost can beat the V8 on level ground! Ya feel me?

[@strigentodin2953]

I don't think it will, The raptor is wayyyy heavier than the ecoboost

[@stokes8851]

U never know until u try it! At a mile above sea level the horsepower is much less on a naturally aspirated engine than a turbocharged engine👌💯!

[@strigentodin2953]

Clarence Stokes True, But the v6 is amazing. I really want a twin turbo v8 tho!

[@stokes8851]

+Strigent Odin Yes I feel u on that💯

[@childskites6346]

u take weight divided by hp, ecoboost result is higher.

[@jjwatson858]

odiously a raptor will loose its a ecoboost f150 their the fastest stock trucks your comparing it to

[@matthewwheeler9086]

for 2017, is the 2.7tt fastest to 60mph like the 2016? Or does the 3.5tt finally have the advantage?

[@edkennedy7952]

Lol, um according to the photo finish the Raptor was right behind him no?

[@SkodzGaming]

You got to be kidding me!? Get Charlotte to countdown next time!

[@jaskdavis]

Awesome! Good race, even if you were at sea level the Raptor still would have lost 0-60 at least. Ran a few down here when I was a stock 2011 FX2 sport in Panama City Beach and could hang with them to 60 and I know the 15-16s being 700lbs lighter makes them a good bit quicker 0-60 as well.

[@Toadster88]

and that's the limited with 22" wheels! :o

[@TTCoyoteF150]

Now imagine how bad the New raptor is going to make the old Raptor look.

[@StReEtReApEr12R]

yep, right from the service bay of the local shop LOL

[@brandonwright2067]

And I’d still take that glorious v8

[@jbr496]

Don't forget the inertia of those big ole tires and gearing!

[@MacD14]

You guys should of compared a 2014 Raptor vs a 2014 3.5L .

[@valentinabellezza805]

It's not only about weight. It's also about aerodynamics/less drag. 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

[@breyerroberts1203]

Come on of course the twin turbo will win.

[@ZebulonJohn91]

Put 35s on the eco boost and see how it does

[@ericramos7668]

Should make a video with the 2015 ford 150 3.5 vs 2015 ford f250!!!!!!!!!!

Great video, this guy looks like the old talk show host Morton Downey Jr. Good job.

[@justinhoff4974]

Weight. The Eco is aluminum and the Raptor isnt. Weight was key factor here

[@NKaumans]

Ugh, when will the myth that turbo charged engines perform better at high altitude over natural aspirated end? The performance is all relative, turbos do not create more oxygen than the ambient surrounding, horse[power degradation is relative to both engines at any altitude

[@rikshaw5632]

come on man!that was not a real race,... look how slow they were going!!!nice trucks.i out ran twin turbo f-150 with a Honda v-tec,dude couldn't do nothing but throw his hands up!this was done with no mods.... straight stock😉

[@casper24ism]

Rik Shaw lol yea right!

[@prinzabubu]

Now get a SSi tune on that EB

[@fasteddie617]

..and they say chrome don't get you home? Andre needs to drive both before he tries the big boy helm. If you hit the "sport switch" the 3.5 will screw from a dig.....as well as 40 mph. Wouldn't suggest it too much though. You can immediately feel the diff in RPM and torque. Mine claims 18 in the city....no way.

[@killaurnext]

on average, a naturally aspirated engine loses approximately 5% BHP per 1000ft in elevation, so you are well over a 20% loss at 1 mile above sea level. That 411bhp is more like 330bhp :(. Turbo and supercharged engine still have a loss but not nearly as great, maybe 2-3% on average per 1000ft of elevation

[@brianthompson6253]

Andre was only given half throttle LOL

[@R777-RLM]

When the Ecoboost has it's intake valves full of carbon, and the MPI V8's are still clean, maybe there will be a difference.

[@randomsomeone1617]

gen 2 ecoboost. read, learn, win!

[@R777-RLM]

The 2nd gen. Ecoboost 3.5L for the F-150 with it's dual injectors, will hopefully eliminate the carbon problem. Hopefully this will spread to all DI engines. If you tow often, Ford themselves recommends the 5.0 V8.

[@1mr420]

can anyone say oil catch can

[@R777-RLM]

Oil catch cans definitely help, but they don't solve the carbon build up problem, they delay it.

[@benjaminwayneb]

Ask all the GM. Ecotec 5.3 and 6.2 owners with their carboned valves.

[@cruise2kx]

A much better, and more thought provoking, comparison would have been the new V8 f150 vs Raptor. The obvious results of this comparison questions your credibility and leaves little to consider.

[@cruise2kx]

The obviousness of your statement is precisely why this comparison is pointless. The comparison is meant to discredit the V8 instead of demonstrating the effects of newer technology.

[@robbyboyles8351]

That was not the super charged Raptor ! If it were it would of left the Eco Bust in the dust !

[@mromero911]

Sheena Boyles the raptor doesn't have a supercharger unless its aftermarket

[@MrBakerskate1]

when my ecoboost blew up I put a raptor 6.2 into it and it's a beast

[@casper24ism]

MrBakerskate1 your full of shit!

[@deebee529]

Twin turbo changes everything,

[@TheJoe999Man]

Not to mention the new f150 is much lighter

[@olliecrow3547]

Weight is a big factor

[@Biggie_Swoles]

I feel as if the raptor would win it didn't even seem like he was hammering down on it

[@joelesko681]

Poor Roman... still thinks the Raptor is the top truck. Lol

[@peachesandoreo]

A mile below sea level the 6.2L Raptor would totally smoke the 3.5L twin turbo F-150. @@

[@TRDGE]

bring that race on sand and see who's better then. #teamraptor

[@StReEtReApEr12R]

Raptor will be towing the Ecoboom out

[@franjaurro]

V6 is better for drags, if u dont believe me just see a Nissan GTR

[@childskites6346]

its about hp torque and weight

[@childskites6346]

not about how many cylinders

[@skyisdlimit6125]

He called the tiny ecoboost big now I lost respect lol

[@casper24ism]

You Tube Man you not too bright are you? First off that little engine not only out run a old raptor at sea level but out pull it by almost 5000 lbs. that's more than your pinto wagon.

[@skyisdlimit6125]

Put a twin turbo on that V8 and it's gonna eat that ecobust alive

[@koltonIII]

That would just make it a V8 ecoboost

[@koltonIII]

Aaron Cross nope, you’re wrong

[@koltonIII]

Aaron Cross nope, you’re simply not right. twin turbos make everything and ecoboost, even a chevy

[@Kiddro22]

Has nothing tO do with altitude/elevation

[@vaporizer28]

You could just add a pro charger to the v8 and would totally smoke the Eco boost. Nobody thinks of that v8 much better engine

[@kristianfussell9153]

Roland Luthi why buy a 6.2 if you need to buy a 7000 dollar procharver to make it faster than a stock 3.5?

[@motortoys9942]

@@kristianfussell9153 because it'll last 10 times as long and sound 100 times better while doing it

[@SavageBunny1]

The 3.5 is maxed out on power and could only handle a few mods before it detonates, the 6.2 could push 650hp with $6k in upgrades all day.

[@wolfwitdabeanz3211]

It's definately not maxed out on power. tf? The Taurus SHO uses the exact same engine and people have pulled a little shy of 500hp out of them stock. Livernois has tuner kits that they sell for the 2.7 and 3.5 and the 3.5 can safely be boosted up to 475 with little more than an exhaust, intake and tune on stock internals. People do this all day. It's not a special case. There are hundreds out there that have this kind of modification and from Livernois' kit there has never been a single failure and that's a proven fact. If you don't know what you're talking about.. don't talk about it. It's very simple.

[@wolfwitdabeanz3211]

jldude84 In addition to what you've said. To further put his statement into a pile of shit. That 6.2 definately cannot make 650+ horsepower with just 6 grand in upgrades. It can make 650+ with a whipple, yes. But, it won't be reliable at all. The crank and bottom end are all cast. Not forged. With 6 grand in forged bottom end and crank then sure. You could make 650+ hp. But, not before spending closer to 10 grand.

[@rikshaw5632]

😂😂😂I got em !he gave up after 4 gear😉

[@joelesko681]

Still don't trust the longevity of the turbo's. That's gonna be an expensive bill to have them replaced or repaired..... assuming they make it past warranty

[@talltiger2790]

Joe Lesko Yeah lol the engines get 5000 miles over warranty and then they crap out.

[@casper24ism]

Joe Lesko funny you guys have no clue what ur talking about.they use all this technology on their trophy trucks they know that they are tough trucks maybe instead of making blank statements that you have no clue about look it up?

[@cardinaloflannagancr8929]

Seriously you do realize how long turbo's have been out and being improved. I have an abacus if you want to swap it for that scary computer that probably won't last on your car. lol

[@biggsly5000]

I’ve had two company truck 3.5 twin turbos. Put 155k on one not one problem. The other only 135K not one problem. I had a 5.7 tundra and had the header leak, brake master cylinder fail, and a new tranny, all at less than 100k. Toyota? No thanks?

[@felixauclairtendland4766]

Nice video :p

[@lylejohnson2360]

Because we all drive at sea level...

[@ripfletching]

Love the raptor

[@alexyoungberg5232]

Im really concerned... but were just having fun🤔🤔

[@felixauclairtendland4766]

rip

[@nrhoyos76]

sea level 3.5 vs sc thundra

[@dukinygaming259]

At sea level the 3.5 has no chance

[@VortexVibe634]

Keep gaming Dukiny...

[@Twizztify]

3.5 will have a chance at sea level....., in fact, it will still win every single time

[@mayasubedi3393]

I don't

[@strigentodin2953]

jldude84 Exactly, And the ecoboost has turbos lol

[@casper24ism]

Dukiny Gaming this guy has no clue

[@rvh77]

This "comparison" is dumber than a box of rocks. No mention of axle ratios or tire sizes of either truck. Plus the Raptor weight is significantly higher, but the axle gears alone will easily make or break a drag race. As far as getting the job done ". You have to ask yourself what exactly is the job you are doing?

[@kleetus92]

I'm pretty sure that either a rolling start would have drastically different results. A mile above sea level isn't exactly a fair challenge but I have a real hard time believing a fuel injected motor with nearly twice the displacement got it's ass handed to it by a twin turbo. So either the 6.2 is the biggest joke on the planet, or this test is complete bullshit.

[@MiguelPerez-nk2wu]

The new f150s are quick bro I have an uncle who bought a 2015 with the 5.0 and we raced it with my friends 2014 raptor and it still beat it. No BS just fast. What I'm really wondering is if that new 3.5 on the 2017 raptor will be faster than the 3.5 on the regular 2017 f150

[@kleetus92]

My buddy has an FX4 ecoboost F150, it is quick, very nice truck. I just have a real hard time believing that a motor with nearly twice the physical displacement is that much of a pig. Somebody really screwed the pooch there. Now your question about the new raptor engine is interesting... the new lincoln MKZ with a 3.0 ecoboost is claiming 400 HP. A 3.5L with the same power per displacement should be good to 466 HP with similar tuning. No idea what the overall longevity of these engines will be, but, at least for a while they should be good. Now, that all being said, HP numbers are great, but it's the torque that gets the job done, and having peak torques at like 2k rpm is just useless.

[@ponygt6629]

There is a reason Y Ford is sayin the ecoboosts are better See I agree Fords V8 s are reliable and well powerful too but the turbo is better Turbos have this torque plateau that extends between 2500-5500 rpm which is nuts, U cant beat a turbo engine that easily

[@surfminion]

Your forgetting how much heavier the Raptors are along with being on larger and heavier tire package aka unsprung weight.

[@Ross-om1ht]

EcoBoost is truck is lighter, plus it has a much more broad torque range, coming in at full torque by 2500rpms

[@peachesandoreo]

A mile below sea level the 6.2L obnoxious looking Raptor would totally smoke the 3.5L twin turbo F-150. @@

[@AwakeningGamesEntertainment]

Put some weight in the truck and try this lol V8 always.

[@marklopez5382]

Cute trucks, stay with super duty!

[@rikshaw5632]

I'll take either one of them!v8 for the sound and eco cause it's boosted!both are nice trucks.😃

[@Skankhunt98745]

I'll still take the 6.2 any day

[@FastZrider]

i know i wasnt impressed with the Raptor that went to pass a semi truck in front of me, lol i swear it was the newer Ecoboost Raptor because it sounded awful when he pinned it. lol my Ram 2500 passed the semi just as fast. They dont have balls when you throw big tires on those motors and try to get moving quickly at fast highway speeds. Ofcourse i do have almost double the torque in my Cummins so that helps get ya moving with 35s

[@Angel-vm7oj]

Its cuz its lighter. Like bikes vs cars, if a bike weighed as much as a car its be slower than a focus😒

[@Chuckers84]

And this is why the 6.2 is dead!!!

[@skyisdlimit6125]

Put a blower in that 6.2 and it will eat that ecobust

[@Chuckers84]

Sky Trooper yup but to bad it wouldn't be stock. So sorry

[@skyisdlimit6125]

This is the reason why I'll end up getting a Tundra and supercharge it atleast I have a peace of mind that it's gonna last me longer than any ecobust

[@Chuckers84]

Sky Trooper have fun with the lousy fuel mileage. I am currently sitting at 375925 km running at 14.5 litres/100km mixed city highway and she is still going strong. There is a reason why these are the top selling trucks. Ecoboost for the win!

[@skyisdlimit6125]

P J if im buying a truck why would i care about fuel? and as far as i know you will actually gain 2-3mpg with the trd supercharger.

[@JG-ef2cn]

v6 ecoboost sounds like crap

[@CS-gb1ul]

Roman should not be on camera, he's not very good.

[@ericmoran6269]

I really hate ecoboost

[@casper24ism]

eric moran that's because you can't afford one there sparky

[@RANDOMHOBO01]

No most don't like them because they don't last long enough. A Ford Modular V8 (4.6 and 5.4 triton) or 6.2 V8 will just run and run and have simple operation and require less expensive maintenance over the vehicles life. The Ford V8 can easily go half a million miles, something an ecoboost will never do.

[@robbieiglesias8517]

my dads raptor is much faster then that

[@Pete2So]

FORD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE FORD !!!!!!!!!!!! ULTRA FANBOY!!!!!! Aaaaaaaa

[@EPICYELLOWHORSE]

Just throw a twin turbo on the 6.2L and call it a day. The V6 is NOTHING special. All the magic comes from the turbos. OOPS! Oh yeah...ECONOMY. Seems like Dodge is the only company with balls these days. They still have no answer to their 707hp V8 Hellcat they are stuffing into at least three vehicles now...

[@casper24ism]

Burrell1 awe someone jealous?

[@User-qu7pq]

greg raymer you sound dumb as hell

[@seanhoward8276]

Burrell1 how is a hellcat relevant here? 2017 ford GT! There's your answer. Also 3.5 twin.

[@casper24ism]

Burrell1 yea but it's a dodge..

[@ohslothz4079]

greg raymer fiat

[@joelesko681]

Ecoboost will not exist in 10 years....

[@casper24ism]

Joe Lesko really no turbos in 10 years? Lol dude stay off here you look more and more uneducated.

[@Starky513]

Joe Lesko only way you turn out correct is if they only have electrics by then.

[@charlestondarwin]

This is why I stopped watching TFL. Drag race between trucks? That's just stupid. These are utility vehicles. Why would someone care about 0-60 in a truck?

[@charlestondarwin]

Aaron Cross exactly. Idiots that think trucks are cars. Trucks are for hauling and towing. Not for driving to the mall. Perhaps you are one of them. 😂

[@ZebulonJohn91]

Put 35s on the eco boost and see how it does