Ford Mustang EcoBoost Performance Pack // This or V8 GT?

#FordMustang
#MustangEcoboost
#MustangPerformancePack
The Ford Mustang has a 2.3L EcoBoost turbocharged 4-cylinder engine as the base model. Now, there is an optional Performance Package that adds 20hp to the EcoBoost 4-cylinder. bringing the power up to 330hp. The Ford Mustang EcoBoost Performance Pack torque remains the same at 350lb.-ft. The other big addition to this new package is an adaptable sport exhaust that really makes this car sound much better. Just like the Mustang GT, this EcoBoost model is available with MagneRide suspension upgrade and an interior upgrade package that adds the 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster and improved internal materials. This new 2.3L EcoBoost Performance Pack model is a great update but expensive at $6500 Canadian. It make a good car drive really well but at that price many might want to opt for the Mustang GT 5.0L V8 with 460hp.
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[@ifazer8akathedoctor275]

Its a sport daily driver mustang gets better gas mileage than the GT Also collectible. I love it.

[@natconaway]

Oh and by the way, check with me every 6 months when my insurance bill comes due :-)

[@Philmoscowitz]

Why is it collectible?

[@Dhananjuly]

Yeah

[@barry7920]

Yes, better handling, lower purchase price and lower operating cost - there's a lot to like about the Ecoboost/Performance Pack Mustang; and while yes, the V8 'stangs are faster, the Ecoboost is no slouch on acceleration.

[@Armen567]

The $6500 HIgh Performance Package includes: • 3.55 limited-slip rear-axle • 19" x 9" Machined-Face Aluminum Wheels with Low Gloss Ebony-Painted Pockets • 255/40R19 Summer-Only Tires • Active valve performance exhaust • Black painted strut-tower brace • Engine spun aluminum instrument panel • Exterior Mirrors - Magnetic • Gauge Pack (oil pressure and boost) • GT Performance Package front splitter and belly pan • Hood accent stripe • Heavy-duty front springs • Larger brake rotors with four-piston fixed calipers • Larger radiator • Raised Blade Decklid Spoiler - Magnetic (Fastback Only) • Spoiler Delete (Convertible Only) • Unique chassis tuning • Unique EPAS, ABS and stability control tuning • Upsized rear sway bar This example also includes the $2600 Magneride.

[@Motormouth...]

Magneride is not included.

[@Armen567]

Motormouth Correct. That’s why I included on a separate line. But the Mustang EcoBoost you tested was not the base. The EcoBoost, like the GT, comes in two primary trims; Fastback and Fastback Premium. The Premium is $4800 more. A base Fastback with the High Performance 330hp package, active exhaust and EcoBoost Handling Package (Torsen 3:55 and Magneride) comes in at $43,080. Opting for the premium with the digital dash (and upgraded interior) with the optional B&O Sound puts the car about $50,000. So if one wanted the EcoBoost with the performance bits, they could save a lot of money foregoing the nicer leather interior, digital dash with nav and the the B&O Sound.

[@kellingtonlink956]

That’s a lot of coin for basically (what most people will notice). ... a cool looking “Hood accent stripe”.

[@Armen567]

TheUrbanEpicure No, no. Zack is a great reviewer. Just clarifying the different trim levels and option packages available if price is a concern.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

@@TheUrbanEpicure - It's a performance pkg, and the dopey bits that are included, like a hood stripe, painted tower brace, spun aluminum instrument panel, spoiler, etc. do nothing for performance. Agreed though, he should have mentioned all this crap because some of it IS performance related, like the chassis tuning, limited slip, larger brakes, heavy duty springs, summer tires, etc.

[@BrayZap]

These cars so well perfectly balanced. There was no other car i could find, even when considering the GT, that gives more for the money. Great interior, technology, comfortable. Great turbo and active exhaust noises. Plenty fast. Handles so well you can take turns at like 80. Looks just like any other mustang and looks fantastic. Theres literally not 1 single gripe about it. And for not much money if you dont care about warranty you can get even more out of it with the aftermarket. No other car compares for your money

[@gavinj01]

Glad to hear it!! You made feel good about the Velocity Blue one I just bought with only 9800 miles on it. Every single option and 10k less than any used base GT.

[@jetstreamgret2108]

I own a 2019 GT PP1 with cloth seats, the tiny radio, no selectable drive modes and it was 34,000 , a GT with the same goodies that the ecoobost you're reviewing has(leather seats, entertainment system, digital cluster and active exhaust, etc costs over 40k, not to mention the MPG difference. So yeah you could get a base GT for the same price and if you don't want the interior goodies but , with that fancy interior you wont find a GT at that price point like you mentioned. With the gas prices going up its getting harder and harder to use the GT as a daily driver, I think I'm going to get the 2.3L and get another GT in a few years.

[@ResonantFreq528]

The weird thing is that all the same upgrades on the GT are higher priced as well on top if the GT price increase. Not sure the same exact upgrades should be higher priced. It was an easy decision for me!

[@4touchdowns1game29]

Also the EcoBoost doesn't always get good mpg. Mine gets like 15 mpg on E30.

[@Adam_Sauce]

@@4touchdowns1game29 you using E30 lol of course man. i get 38MPG on 94 octane, pretty sure 90% people won't be using E30 on their ecoboost

[@MRAMX390]

I just traded my 2021 California Special in on a new 201a HPP Mustang with the handling package. I got a new job and commute 70 miles a day and my 5.0 had a serious drinking problem so enter the EcoBoost. As you said I will get another 5.0 on down the road.

[@treyjones9550]

Waiting on the foxbody for 2025. Haha

[@tommyhaupfear9320]

Typical closed-minded reviewer. There is a $10,000 USD difference between the EcoBoost and the GT performance packages. I want to see a non-biased review between the EcoBoost Performance Package and a base model GT.

[@undergroundgaming3172]

I’ve had a base 2019 Ecoboost, a 2020 GT PP1, and now I have a 2021 Ecoboost HPP with handling package. I’m keeping this one. Much more fun to throw around twisty back roads. Of course the GT has all that power and sound, but you’re 0 to illegal so fast you can’t even enjoy it.

[@DustinTavo]

I don’t get it. This car seems like a dream for me. I’m in a SN95 roush new edge. 02. This car is an all around upgrade but slightly heavier but better handling. I’m trying to test drive one myself to see for myself. Currently I really want a facelift brz, or GR86. But I could have a more powerful car and if it handles twisties about as well then I can have my cake and eat it too. And have better mileage than my V8. And a more practical car. Also with flowmasters the roar gets old to me though I also love it. I can never relax in my car. 2nd shift roar and slide or skirt on a corner just excites me every time. Don’t get me wrong I’m not gonna drive the ecoboost reasonably either but at least it won’t egg me on when I’m trying to cruise haha.

[@70xr7Cougar]

Dude its more then 20hp you are getting in the package..., Improved suspension, bigger tires, active exhaust system, torque is better throughout the rpm range compared to the standard ecoboost, 3.55 limited-slip rear axle, better brakes and some visual things... Suspension and brakes alone are worth that money...

[@chefjefe68]

Do you research: The 2.3L engine that comes with the Performance Package is based on the engine from the departed Focus RS. It is not just a hopped up version of the 2.3L Ecoboost in the non-performance package Mustangs.

[@ravax694]

Its actually not a tough sell in Europe... Pollution taxes, and luxury taxes (which increase exponentially depending on displacement) for the GT make you pay an extra 10k per year... on the ecoboost it comes out to roughly 1k per year

[@jwynncosmo]

10k just for driving a car Jesus im glad we don't have that here

[@ST_DCT]

Ok, A loaded HPP Mustang @46K vs for the loaded 5.0 @54K. If you plan on actually DRIVING the car, the cost of ownership gets ridiculous. I've had 8 other Mustangs in my life, and yes I loved my old 5.0, but my SVO was a completely different driving experience, and since this is a completely updated version of that car, buying it was a no brainer. With the money I save on the cost of the 5.0, I can easily upgrade this EB to beat up on any stock 5.0 and still have money left over. Do I miss the sound? sure, but I can drive to Florida and STILL get 30mpg. This car is no slouch, it pulls hard and handles very well. It turns heads wherever it goes...No regrets AT all...So, instead of saying "I coulda had a V8", how about review the car that you're driving, not the one you wish you were...

[@colderbeer]

THIS Mustang handles the turns better than the heavier GT.....it's a wonderful blend of good power, speed, and handling.

[@Virksaab92]

I have that one it’s really gd better than charger gt or any v 6

[@EatingGuo]

And better fuel economy

[@MattHawk5.0]

id be sayin this too if i was getting waxed by GTs 🤣

[@2W3X4YZ5]

I always wanted a Mustang SVO with a 2 litre out of a Sierra Cosworth. At this point it might be easier to customize this car into some kind of modern tribute to the SVO. And I’ll take the biplane spoiler too.

[@TheWombat2012]

I love the comment that people have said that the “EcoBoost is a sports car, the V8 version is a muscle car”. They’re two different things. And I love my new 2021 High Performance EcoBoost Mustang 6 speed manual in Yellow Peel… Everyone always says “But thu V8 sound!!” as if that’s going to be the sole reason to buy one. Not in my state (Queensland, Australia)…a V8 costs around $1200 a year to register on the road. A four cylinder is only about $750. And I test drove the V8 version. It wasn’t that much better of a car that it was worth the extra costs. I never wake up and think I could have had a V8…

[@SWEETVENOM100]

After all this time, how do you like it!?

[@batman48195]

He didn’t compare handling. GT has more horsepower but also much heavier in the front end. Ive heard the lighter Ecoboost is really fun to drive and handles much better.

[@donwa7772]

You get more than 20 hp, badging, and active exhaust with the high performance pack. You get special 19" wheels with summer tires, a 3.55 axle ratio, and GT suspension.

[@ResonantFreq528]

If you get the standard ecoboost you can get the performance pack from ford performance for $675. It’s not available on the hpp mustang. You maintain your warranty from ford. You get a 35 HP increase and 76 ft/lbs of torque. Which brings you up to 345hp and 426 ft/lb of torque. If you get the automatic you still get the same suspension as the GT.

[@ResonantFreq528]

@nismo510 not sure about the sway bar but you do get the 4 piston brenbo brakes.

[@IntothewestOkotoks]

Love mustangs, and this looks very capable, but the sound is just not right... has to be the 5.0

[@C_J_Mustang_HPP]

Sorry Motormouth, were you ever informed that this is not a base 2.3L engine? The first item listed in the Mustang Brochure under 2.3L High Performance Package is a 2.3L High Performance EcoBoost I-4 Engine. This is the same 2.3L 350hp engine that was in the Focus RS, the engine was built in Valencia,Spain. You are paying for a different engine that's why the package cost $6500. Again, everyone, this is not your base Cleveland Engine Plant built 2.3L Period..

[@MaestroTJS]

I would recommend to anyone looking at a vehicle that has a V8 option to go and buy one now. Why? Because V8's are disappearing and that trend is only going to continue, so one day 10+ years from now, you will kick yourself for not having taken the chance to own the sweetest sounding engine. (Ditto for manual transmissions, and even more so.)

[@heatrg1090]

I found a 2016 mustang gt for 25k with 53k mileage? good deal?

[@russelldarnell825]

Just got one for 24k lol msrp is a joke mines a 2020 with everything. U can haggle with them I have a 5.0 coyote as well and they about the same.

[@torres870rem]

Still sound like a Russian tractor. 😆😆😆😆😆

[@sebastienlemoine8491]

With the issue with the v8 since 2018 and the famous tick, avoid it

[@felixtheengine]

Why do so few reviewers not get this car? Think of it as MX5 with guts that you can fit in. There are few cars under $40k CAD that are over 300hp and let you row gears. Personally I wouldn't be caught dead in a 5.0. But this is lighter, cheaper and easier on your wallet insurance wise. It isn't just 20hp either, the power delivery feels much better than the standard ecoboost. Drive them back to back and you will notice the difference immediately. All that said, if you are not getting the stick...then there is more fun elsewhere.

[@budgetmike3827]

For around 50k, you could have a BMW turbo 235 or a BMW 330. Really like this version of the Mustang ecoboost, it has all the bells and whistles. The 50k pricetag makes for some heavy thought.

[@M4B21S88]

Incentives my dude...dealers know that they won’t ever sell a ecoboost for 50k, just as much as the average mustang buyer won’t spend 50k on the 5.0. I’ve see a few HPP with an msrp of 42k going for 33k-34k.

[@TheWombat2012]

I just bought a brand new 2021 HP EcoBoost manual…here in Australia that cost me just under sixty grand. Could I have bought a BMW for that? Not a good one. And I would lay money on which one is going to be cheaper to maintain and service in ten years time.

[@FurkanCemTurfanda]

The High Performance package also gets you a limited slip diff, GT brakes, bigger wheels and better suspension tuning. Not just 20 hp and an exhaust. The Handling Package gives you even bigger wheels and tires, better tires, and even better suspension with the mag. shocks. Do better research before making a video.

[@chrishuber8930]

You can get the 2.3 performance package for 5500 without the 2500 handling package that adds magneride. You can get the 2.3 ecoboost performance package with a stick for 35 k plus tax Canadian. Thats a great deal.

[@stankygeorge]

One car magazines advice is; if you cannot decide which sports car to buy, then, buy a Mustang GT! But, the same magazine said; on a day to day basis, we prefer the Mustang Eco-Boost because is so toss-able and fun to drive.

[@eltisnap1494]

However, this EcoBoost will accelerate faster in the very first few seconds than the GT or even the GT 350. On the highway, it will take some time for the GT and GT350 to catch up. That’s tested and demonstrated on videos. Just saying because I hear all the time how bad turbos are and how good a naturally aspirated engine is. And if you think about it, what gives the fun factor and is more useful in daily life is the initial acceleration. You will not be doing drag races all day long every day

[@Cbrmansc77]

If you are looking for the ecoboost just get it base with no accessories for 27k That's the best value

[@chester6161]

I agree, buy the base model with minimum options, but also get the ford performance pack (about $650), it is easy to install yourself, The performance pack is just a new software package plus a k&n air filter. You must use premium gas however

[@Javonn143_]

I would get the ecoboost over the V8 because there’s so much tuning potential

[@keithbrooks9183]

It will start to burn oil before it reaches 60000miles

[@yahabibi6891]

Keith Brooks thanks to the warranty no one will really care and plus people usually upgrade their cars after 40k miles or so

[@leonardogalindo3324]

@@keithbrooks9183 got a mazdaspeed 3 with almost 90,000 miles. Not a drop off oil is burned.

[@HughesEnterprises]

Test drove an Ecoboost PP1 and drove home in a GT PP1. I know which one I like better.

[@boredaliensclub4416]

Which one?

[@oscardominguez1680]

@@boredaliensclub4416 the one he drove home in? Lol

[@brandonosborn1085]

@@boredaliensclub4416 dumbass

[@SirenS550]

Glad you could afford one ✌️

[@treyjones9550]

My 2019 has the pp1. Like others have said. 3.55 gears. Larger radiator. GT brakes. GT styling. PP1 rims. Line lock.

[@treyjones9550]

I swear tho. I got R/T, 392s, camaro ss's. All muscles reving on me all day long. I'm like it's a 4 banger bro. I Will say yeah. I'm gonna put a electric cutout on it.

[@dzgtnbz3680]

Still wish they built a V6 twin turbo that would have been interesting.

[@JogBird]

the 5L engjne will be more durable than a high output turbo 4 cyl

[@rmccorma]

Maybe, but I sure do see a bunch of GT’s having issues on the Mustang6g forum, these ecoboost engines are quite proven and across the entire ford line up. Now if you are going to modify then yeah you will prob ecoboom which has happened to a bunch of eco owners. I’ve had mine for 5 years and have only had to replace a control arm.

[@mikeriv60]

Meeeh not sure about that. My GTs engine went booom with 13k miles on it and no I don't beat my cars.

[@lukesm5747]

@@mikeriv60 Thats very rare. The coyote is known to be a very strong motor.

[@chrishuber8930]

@@lukesm5747 yes its not bad. Its not that strong though. Its a good engine. The 2.3 is from the RS motor in this high performance option.

[@nickolastiguan]

Ford is probably “prepping” its customers for when they eventually drop the V8.

[@Motormouth...]

The same 3.5L V6 EcoBoost used in the F-150 would be a monster...

[@nickolastiguan]

Motormouth the Ford GT uses a modified version of the 3.5L V6 EcoBooster correct?

[@rmccorma]

ICE engines’ days are numbered

[@nickolastiguan]

rmccorma not as soon as you think, IMO.

[@stankygeorge]

That will be the biggest mistake they will ever maker, even bigger, than the Edsel!

[@wdbressl]

One of the worst reviews I’ve ever seen. Apparently he doesn’t do any research, first HP package is $5k, and it is not the same Ecoboost as the standard Mustang. This is the engine from the Focus RS built in Spain modified to fit the Mustang with a bigger turbo. You also get the strut tower brace, GT front brake rotors, 3:55 Torson differential, 19x9 wheels and Pirelli P-Zero tires. The other $1500 is for the active exhaust, a separate option.

[@dreamcruzer4743]

Way too much money. A four cylinder mustang will always be compared to the GT. Too bad Ford doesn’t have another platform they could put this engine and trans combination into. I think if they were able to do that people would look at the 2.3 L performance pack differently. They should make a retro Maverick. 😎

[@chrishuber8930]

Buddy you really dont know much about cars. This car is much more than a 22 hp increase. Its the Focus RS motor with forged internals, revised for the mustang, with a larger 63 mm turbo, larger turbo compressor, and a bigger radiator. The Focus RS have been putting down over 435 hp and 480 ft lbs with a tune.

[@brolyv5802]

Got a factory ordered base 2020 GT with active exhaust, security pack, dashcams, 6 spd manual. $40k canadian after taxes. Done! No need for techs, Mechanicals lasts longer than technology.

[@TechGuruCan]

Not in $CAD! 😧

[@brolyv5802]

whisperyck not sure what you mean...

[@JCTiggs1]

Don't forget to add the performance pack. I'm so glad I have it on my 2019 GT. The Brembo brakes, torsen diff, 3.73 gears (3.55 10 spd auto), upgraded suspension parts, struts, shocks and those Michelin Pilot sport tires are ALL things you will notice and feel during spirited driving. If you look at the Ford mechanics manual there are A LOT of suspension parts that are specific just for the GT performance pack, Almost all of these parts aren't mentioned in the PP option list overview. Well worth it and you will get most of that back during resale (black book value on it $2500 to $3000). Performance pack GT's are quite rare in Canada and highly sought after. Despite getting the performance pack, I've also reinforced the CHASSIS even further with several Steeda parts, IRS support braces, bushings, front undermount chassis brace, springs etc, 305 tires out back, 285's up front etc, She handles like a proper GT3 spec car now. Just an amazing car for the money.

[@brolyv5802]

JCTiggs nice - whats concerning is there is a handful of mustang GTs 2016-2019 in the used market. Not sure why people are NOT holding on to them ;)

[@TechGuruCan]

Because the GTs were driven hard 😆, owners just want to unload it early while the residual value is still reasonable. Then u have the suckers buying 2nd or 3rd abused GTs lol. The review is in Canada, a new pp1 GT with all the extra options is > $56k CAD MSRP, before tax! It is very expensive!

[@subterfusion4005]

I've owned a 2015 Eco PP and a 2018 GT PP1. Just drove the 2020 2.3 HPP. My advice, get the GT, if not that, get a regular Eco with a manual and PP and mod it.

[@erob3878]

He is absolutely right..nothing like the sound of a 5.0 V8 .. In my case in NYC,the insurance rates and Im a daily driver

[@DustinTavo]

Could’ve had blablabla. Which is also less. And I don’t want it. And it’s still faster and better handling in theory than my current new edge Roush. I can have a more powerful and better handling car and have better gas mileage. Sounds great to me. I’m looking for handling not power. I’m between this and a BRZ.

[@morrisf3957]

you tried to light up the tires.haha didn't see anything.

[@CdnSkies]

I could have had a V8...... Awesome Right on Zack

[@undergroundgaming3172]

I hate people like this who do reviews and have no idea what they're talking about. The HPP includes a different engine block, different turbo and tuning, different brakes, radiator, strut tower brace, Torsen 3.55 rear end, sway bars. etc etc. This car is meant to go around a road course and can beat a GT doing it because it's lighter in the front and lighter overall

[@martinortiz8247]

now n days, this mustang goes for 16-18k used, while the gt is like 22-26k used, since i’m young ima have to go for this one

[@camelspyyder]

Rented both. The turbo sounds awful and it's slow. The V8 Premium was fantastic and made me grin every time I started or drove it. Second time I rented a turbo Mustang it was so bad I swapped it for an F-150.

[@Dhananjuly]

Through all reaserch, I've got answer. I'll have ecoboost performance pack high end model for daily driver, GT for touring my lovely country India and GT PP1 for World Tour. That's it.

[@KD-cx6yi]

Ughh! This car goes head-to-head now with many Euro cars the V8 just simply cannot do like the BMW M240i, and is significantly cheaper than those cars. Your droning about the V8 is just lazy.

[@joefurrer5428]

6 months ago I purchased a 2018 EcoBoost performance pack 10-speed Auto with everything this one has except for magride and the 20 extra horsepower and went out the door for $27,000 with 23 mi on it brand new off the showroom 2-year-old leftover best bang for my buck ever. No leather interior which is a waste no heated seat which is a waste but it has the gauge package the toggle switches and the big screen along with sink three and a CD player which is a must for me they stop putting them in until back in 2020 it's an extra option now not worth the money for what they're charging for the upgrade to the CD player performance summer tires 19x9 also rear end temp gauge. For tracking it.if I take it into the dealer I can have a factory tune put on it with warranty bumps the horsepower up to 350 and 375 lb of torque for only 7 to $800. The new 2020 cannot take the new tune like the old ones just letting you know. 😉 PS does not have active exhaust which I like it quiet to sneak up on them. little known fact the higher performance rear spoiler was wind tunnel tested through NASA and at 80 miles an hour it puts 60 lb of downforce on the rear of the EcoBoost Mustang or the GT letting you know that makes a big difference. The rear spoiler they put on this 2020 EcoBoost performance package is a waste of money no function at all. Just bling.lol

[@hawaii5084]

I'm sorry but the sounds is not ideal for me for a mustang. That's i traded in my 2019 Mustang Ecoboost to a 2018 Mustang GT PP1 love it so much specially the V8 sounds is what a Mustang suppose to sound like.

[@VerryJerry90]

the 2.3 isn't the the same base 2.3 i believe the HPP has the 2.3 from the now extinct RS

[@ericaranda5274]

This review is incredibly misleading. And you sir are wildly misinformed. To start. The engine is a 2.3l but with forged componenents from the focus rs.. the wheels are an added value. It comes with corsas tires . The pkg also gets gt brakes with slotted rotors. It also gets a monster rear sway bar. Plus the added power and exhaust. The internals alone are hugely valuable in this segment . Also gets a much larger radiator. . Now im in agreement about the price. But you sir have slapped a bunch of people in the face with this information or lack of. This pkg is a huge bundle of parts and has been mis represented here.ahhh forgot it also gets an appearance upgrade. Pony pak grill and tsil emblem as well as a decal pkg on the hood. Lots of goodies here.

[@RobustArid379]

he is right V8 is the best bang. but the oil change and gas eater is not economic if you drive this thing to work. I would buy all three. I don't like the word mustang choose "eco-boost" why used the economy word as a turbo word. just say turbo boost car instead.

[@fabianvargas3103]

51,000 there will be a dumbass that will buy it lmao my next car up to get is the Shelby GT500!!

[@drogon2988]

$51,000? 🤣🤣🤣. Just got a 2019 EchoBoost Premium for $21k. Liking it so far but I definitely have a lot of mods to throw on it to make it mine. Luckily I work at an automotive super store so I can buy almost everything I want at cost!

[@PedroPerez-kw8pf]

Fr mine was 20k back in 2017 when I got mine they are trippin balls

[@rddaulby]

What are you going to do with more hp ? All for the manly ego boost i guess !

[@BrayZap]

Just bought a fully loaded 2019 ecoboost with every option. For the price i could get that or a less optioned GT and for regular driving and some fun here and there the GT didnt make much sense. If i really wanted a GT i couldve gotten it but the difference is minimal, rather have the 201A, performance pack, b&o soundsystem, recaros, etc

[@mike_zilla8604]

Are the recaros really better than the original leather seats. You're missing out on the cooling and heating features. What's so good about the recaros seats. Just wondering for myself when I decide too buy a mustang.

[@BrayZap]

@@mike_zilla8604 sorry im late, it depends on you personally there's no way to say for sure. What i dont get is why ford gives the Focus ST and RS heated recaros but couldn't put those in the mustang. For me, ive never had heated or cooled seats in my life so it doesnt bother me since nothing changed. Some people who have had heated and cooled seats will need them or they will feel bad without them. Where i live we have seasons but i can live without the heated and cooled and would rather have the extra snug luxury feeling of the leather recaros. They just feel too amazing. Either seat is fine

[@mr.confused5137]

You can find them all over in the mid to low 20s and with a tune intake and exhaust your looking at big gains and better gas mileage than the GT also cheaper insurance than the GT The insurance is one reason ill probably be getting this over the GT

[@TechBrosGamingChannel]

The only reason I want a GT over this is the sound. I cant stand a fart machine on a mustang. It doesn't fit imo

[@RobustArid379]

this car competition against honda type r and 4 bangers racers.

[@BrayZap]

The high performance package doesnt make much sense for how much it is. Im perfectly happy with getting a 2019 performance package for much cheaper then for a measley $600 for the ford performance tune you get 335 hp and 390 ft/lb tq with basically all the same shit

[@chinesesogood]

I heard rumor that the ecoboost 2.3L engine is essentially the same as the first gen Mazda 6 2.3L engine (04-08), but with upgraded tech and turbo.

[@alextran8188]

Yeah the 2.3 ecoboost has been in many vehicles throughout the years in one form or another before it made its way into the mustang and ranger

[@joefurrer5428]

You're 100% right it is a Mazda motor when Ford and Mazda were working together Ford took that motor because it was a stout little motor and they liked it. 😉

[@alextran8188]

@@joefurrer5428 Ford didn't really "take it." It was theirs all along. Remember, Ford owned mazda for 30+yrs up to around 2016.

[@skipgreener]

This is an amazing car and a much better daily driver than a GT. I would never be happy with a base GT when I can have this much better balanced car with improved fuel mileage and so much fun to drive on twisty roads. Also 6500 hundred gave you a full GT Mustang body ,brakes and suspension with the Focus RS engine with a 355 rear end gearing, it is a lot for the money. It does not look like a plain ecoboost and is a lot of car for the low 50,000 thousand range fully loaded. Gt is a great toy car but not a good daily all weather car.

[@larrysmith6797]

Motormouth is the Soccer Mom of car reviews. 30 horsepower and an exhaust for $6,500.

[@treyjones9550]

Yeah it's worth it.

[@badtad]

I'll informed poor review do your homework

[@NoContext414]

Not gonna lie, just get a GT 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@charleswilliams9757]

I purchased a 2022 version of this Mustang. It is well worth the price. Handling is exceptional.

[@Jorge_Magallon]

This would have been a fun car to teach Andrea to drive a manual,

[@Motormouth...]

I tried but she said noooo

[@philipguacci6452]

The GT. We love our V8s down under. No Gt350 or 350r came to Aust. No to the Mach 1 for now also and the Gt500. Prices suck here also. We did get 700 Bullitts at over $72k each. Special build R for Australia $100k. The four cylinder just does not have the magic. Even if it is cheaper $51k plus options.

[@conn3r81]

The GT is great, but for a regular person who drives a half hour to work every day, 31 mpg starts to sound a lot better than 24. You can also bet your insurance will skyrocket with a GT as opposed to a base model gas saver. Gas, insurance, and base price makes the GT less attractive for a daily driver, unless you race your car every day on your way to work.

[@ResonantFreq528]

If you get the standard boost engine you can get a performance pack from ford Performance which increases the hp by 35hp and 76 ft/lb of torque for $675. The performance pack is not covered by ford for the hpp ecoboost but it is for the standard. I think that’s a reasonable price. Much cheaper than 6k.

[@Philmoscowitz]

My question is this: how much is the magneride worth? Is it better to get the GT with the premium package (but without the performance package) or the Ecoboost with the premium, high performance, and handling packages? Because, they're almost the same price.

[@ResonantFreq528]

I am having mine built right now. I passed on the hpp with the magnaride. I am going to end up having more hp and torque and it will be covered by warranty for much less money.

[@Philmoscowitz]

@@ResonantFreq528 - Nice. I drove a 2021 Ecoboost convertible this summer while I was on vacation. It came with the premium package but not the handling package with magneride. The suspension was totally fine without it, even over rough roads. I don't know how it would be on long distance trips, though.

[@ResonantFreq528]

@@Philmoscowitz from the videos I have been watching the magnaride seems to be more for racing by changing the suspense characteristics to hug the roads or drag racing. It seems like a cool feature just doesn’t seem to be worth the price for me.

[@Philmoscowitz]

@@ResonantFreq528 - Good point!

[@matthewmarain1562]

That exhaust sounds like shit

[@powerv8844]

Love the wheels look sick on the stang

[@rembo183]

You’re right! Too much money at $51k. Of course that’s Canadian money. I think it’s closer to $40k US But I purchased a Bullitt last year for about $48k US. That came with 480 hp and Shelby performance bits. The GT350 isn’t cheap and offers less features overall but does have that flat plane crank engine and a Tremec manual for close to $65k similarly optioned Asia my Bullitt. Bottom line is the 4 cyl is not a good deal if you get a premium with same options because it’s too close to GT or Bullitt. GT 350 is a bigger leap financially.

[@ethanrice1102]

The interior packages you added were 10k alone. You can get a hpp with handling for 40k msrp

[@TheApexProjects]

Did he say niggaly? @4:40

[@mikeriv60]

Put my Lincoln MKZ 3.0 Twin turbo AWD system in the Mustang and let's see what he get.

[@kellingtonlink956]

Perfect ending. You are absolutely right, with your logic. Instead of bragging about its “High Performance 2.3” ... maybe they should have done some minor changes (hood scoop/wing?)and brought back their legendary “SVO” badge. It was not really well received; yet every ‘5 Litre’ owner (mostly LX’s) owner secretly wanted one ... Thanks for another entertaining video.

[@MichaelJohnson-uo3ef]

Heres the heart of the issue the GT base doesnt make enough power for the high performance pack to shine meaning they could have went with a twin turbo set up with a slightly larger second turbo and the stock twinscroll and made over 400 horse power but then no one would buy the GT but V8 purists and yeah you can spend 10k and get a whipple stage 2 installed to make 850 with the V8 but thats way too much power for most people and 400 horse power for a low thirty thousand dollar car is a bargain.

[@ronindebeatrice]

Why did they do away with the pony badges on the V8's? Just an eyesore "GT" badge on the rear. I'd buy the ecoboost just on protest.

[@RobustArid379]

is it a v8 mustang

[@migy5031]

Ford might as well have called it the Mustang GTS, since they copied a page from Porsche’s playbook.

[@peakreactivesr3504]

This model has better gas milage and better daily usable engine this is a deal breaker for me

[@jhavondenton2850]

Gt500 >>

[@MyHumanWreckage]

Love the car, but arrrg, those ugly Ontario license plates that were so controversial they went back to the white ones lol.

[@limpunsing224]

GT V8 is definitely more compelling

[@mars77ify]

The colour is beautiful!!

[@j.r.arnolli7494]

Maybe more a car for Europe, esp Denmark and The Netherlands, due to tax reasons, this car would be half the price compared to the V8 overhere😷

[@Motormouth...]

Yes, that's a great point.

[@daved9091]

5.0 is old school 2L Turbo is the now Electric is the future I drive a '20 Mustang GT

[@markmenhinick7161]

I was at dealer and tested them both how is your gt 5.0 any problems ?

[@nickolastiguan]

Hi Zack, the Mustang GT is pretty much half the price compared to C63 Coupe and M4 etc; and I don’t think the Germans are twice as good, thoughts?

[@Motormouth...]

Agree, it is one of my favourite cars. Expensive but huge value compared to the German cars.

[@nickr3441]

The charger is a much better car, price alone dodge all the way

[@warrenschultz2735]

No it's not the same..internals are different.

[@alexissolis5003]

gt has way less mileage and it way more

[@peterzebot9863]

Nice double entendre. ;)

[@freedom6919741]

5.0 all the way !

[@sizwenzama3988]

This car looks beautiful I saw wish I could see it in a drag race

[@yahtzeejimbob]

Where's the woman's perspective?

[@thefitnesslife4988]

Ecoboosts depreciate faster than gts. All those features don't change whats under the hood. Imagine paying 35K for this. A year from now put this cars info into kbb with all the options I bet you it will be worth about 10k less than what you paid for it new lol. Meanwhile the base gt going to be worth a few grand more.

[@Moondoggy1941]

Basic Ford Mustang GT in a manual is 38.7K then with a discount of 1700, so right abut 35K

[@brandonfullerton2]

With the pandemic going on, the odds of getting an even better deal than that is pretty good. I've seen barely used program car GTs with almost no miles on them for $25,000.

[@Moondoggy1941]

@@brandonfullerton2 Yeah I have not seen those deals yet, everything is still really expensive, I hope this COVID ends soon so i am can buy my car, I already bought a Lexus GX 470 but I am going to still get my car. My car was stolen last Feb.