Ford Raptor Towing Issues SOLVED! Was my new Trailer a BAD BUY?

Last November after taking delivery of our 2020 Polaris RZR Pro Xp I realized that I needed to make some major upgrades to both my truck and trailer set up if I ever had hopes of towing both of my side by sides somewhere. So, the search for a new truck began and I settled with this used Ford Raptor. Admittedly not the best tow vehicle but I was swooned by its smooth ride and crazy power. Then I began searching for a trailer that could carry both of our UTVs. This proved to be quite challenging since most trailers over 24 feet long are heavy equipment trailers that are way to heavy. I landed on this modified mobile home trailer some one had built specifically for towing their 4x4 units. I later discovered that the load was far too great for the raptors soft suspension. This is when I discovered how big of a difference weight distributing hitches make. This $300 dollar set up saved me a world of head ache!
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[@Pawan2013]

the load should be basically centered over the trailers axles with some tongue weight.

[@RyanRKJ]

Usually tongue weight should be 10-15% of trailer weight.

[@tannermarriott8903]

"not the best idea" to put it over the axels. That exactly what you're supposed to do smarty pants.

[@BryanAgapito]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@tonybeltran9198]

It was fun watching this project

[@nwwoodsman2545]

You should really watch some towing instructional videos. Or ask someone to help you. How to properly distribute trailer weight

[@getlostoff-road2820]

Two seater up front

[@TRAININGFLAME]

You also didn't say "Thats not going anywhere" when you tightened down the side by sides and I'm slightly disappointed

[@TipOfTheSpear907]

I would back the four seater back after the two seater and you should be a bit more leveled

[@kevinwilson3686]

Now you have a great excuse to get another truck! "honey, we need a diesel!"

[@jeffreywaite2585]

Get helper air bags on the back..

[@robertstoll1699]

Put can am on first

[@gregorybowers6375]

I have the Firestone airbags on my Tundra. They help tremendously.

[@chrishamilton4501]

It would also help if you put the 4 seater in the back over the axles with the lighter one up front 🤘🏼

[@marcruhland2721]

Same issue with my Toyota Tundra, I bought rear air bag suspension. Works like a dream.

[@adamkasper7866]

look into some airbags for the rear

[@bbond302]

rocking the whistler bungee shirt. Repping BC yaaaaaaa

[@tylerbennett2688]

Love when I watch your videos and you find some new gadget that fixes what ever problem your fixing completely. Keep up the great work!

[@DMAX-ed7pq]

Should have loaded the 2 seater first to reduce your tongue weight. Load the 4 seater second to let it sit right over the trailer axles.

[@kylegrozelle7737]

good gawd can you please learn how unsafe that towing setup is and share, does it even have brakes ?

[@CrewCabKaleb]

you need to get deaver progressive leaf springs

[@bryan.12b]

Should’ve put the smaller one up front and the bigger one in the back so u have more ride height on the raptor

[@AndoLife]

Another great fun laid back video Maxx, thank you brotha!

[@ericheitman4654]

Matt, You made a statement to the effect that if you were to tow out to Oregon, you’d trash your leaf springs. I’m suspicious I did that towing a horse trailer out west as it sagged badly before I left and now that I’m back, it is still sagging without the trailer! The dealer said it was fine, but I don’t buy it. How do I determine if the leafs are shot?

[@94apaulin]

Im so happy you make videos everytime you upload one it makes my day so much better and makes my worst week melt away

[@Maxx.Powell]

Dude.. I appreciate you saying that. I needed this motivation this week! 👊

[@rwright872]

I spotted you and des on I5 a few weeks ago. Gave you a 👍 and a ✌️ from my white Tundra. I knew right away it was you guys when I spotted that bad ass triple axel trailer being pulled by a Raptor.

[@acscustoms1]

Scary as hell that I have to share the road with people like this. Easily you have exceeded the GCVW of the raptor. Deaver springs would help but not get you legal. You also strapped the rzr through the bumper, oh dear... maybe you should not use the comment “can’t afford suspension upgrades” when you have a raptor and a rzr. Think about this, you have over 100k rolling with a $3500 trailer and a few ratchet straps to bolted on bumpers.

[@jorgemacias6092]

Good purchase excellent

[@cjzx325]

Glad I discovered this channel! Looks like a sweet setup. The weight distribution works exactly like your pendulum theory when you loaded the second side by side earlier in the video. The bars push up on the rear of the truck when you add load. They also add stability against trailer sway. Load the heavier side by side last and push both back as far as possible to help decrease tounge weight as well.

[@birdiebrandon]

Sick setup! Inspired me to get back into the truck world but also try the overland/rzr scene!

[@J-GIB]

Why would you put the heavier one in front?

[@kornfedjr.outdoors6048]

Hey there! That setup looks pretty sweet, I'm jelly. Lots of the comments recommend air bags, as an alternative to that, look into the Timbren systems. They're rubber helper springs that replace your bump stops. I have a set on my Taco and love them. Put a 1000 pounds of concrete in the bed a couple of weekends ago and the truck was level. Have fun!

[@WeBleedGreen1]

Ayooo washington! A couple of things. Load the small one on first and then load the 4 door backwards

[@joshowens2219]

That wood gets slippery when wet. Make sure you strap those things down good.

[@happyyou321]

You can add air bags and still maintain full travel in suspension with Daystar Air Bag Cradle KU09140BK

[@Valkyrie1911]

Uh...over the axles is exactly where the majority of the weight is supposed to go. One could even say its...ideal, to locate it there. Also buy a truck made for hauling.

[@dhfd200]

You were right in loading the SXS in the middle if it is just one. The weight has to be over the axles with a little more to the front to keep the trailer from swaying. Do not put it up front if it is only one.

[@John98512]

Great job Maxx! It looks awesome. Nice welding job :)

[@natebarker6461]

Tip for taking the bars off jack it up as high as possible to take the load off the truck it’s a lot easier to take them off

[@steelmill2928]

Dually wheel truck are meant to pull, not a Raptor

[@pinoycowboy9110]

Or a regular F-150 not a off road Raptor F-150 lol

[@Maynardd]

Why don’t you put the razor in the back?

[@OutDoorMillennial]

Glad the WDH solved your issues. Its crazy how much of an impact those have. Specially for how relatively cheap they are. Love the rig and the toys :p

[@541overland7]

A good way to help with the sag is to get airbags for the rear. My dad has some on his tundra and it helps with the trailer sag.

[@Fr33Goat]

Bags will level the truck, but they actually put more weight on the rear axle. Weight distribution hitches actually transfer the weight through the frame to the front axle.

[@The_Lost_Alaskan78]

It’s a raptor, it’s not meant for hauling heavy stuff. I had one and they have the power, just not the suspension. Airbags will fuck up the way the suspension is supposed to work and handle when going fast off road.

[@trey_the_mudder_418]

Just put the canned ham on the front and the poolaris on the back 🤦‍♂️

[@justinlivermore8956]

Wat would help is to load the pro 4 in the back cause more of that weight will be on the axels.

[@bobsyourmom]

When possible I would load the can am on first then back the razor on that way the engine the heaviest part is over the Axels. Just an idea.

[@Metrzan]

The CanAm is shorter though so would put more weight up front. The final shot of the trailer looked perfect.

[@cjN4Lholness]

Best Channel out there!

[@RyanRKJ]

Oh man, there are so many KZbin experts in the comment section when it comes to towing. Every time I see a video where anything lighter than a diesel HD has a trailer hooked up, commenters are clamoring for a bigger truck, or airbags, or a multitude of other things. I'll only say to get your information from credible sources, understand applicable laws, and abide by them. Happy and safe travels to ya!

[@SwerveNSEclipse]

You should look up China Hat/ East Fort Rock in Bend Oregon. Huge OHV area and camping

[@Maxx.Powell]

I've been to China Hat its pretty rad out there. Id love to take the UTVs out there

[@Titantramp4u]

You ran into the Achilles Heel of the Raptor…it’s rear spring package.. You added all that Overland stuff and that along with everything else didn’t leave much load capacity for tongue weight. The WDH is fine BUT..Get a set of Deaver springs in the “+1 HD”…..that will lift the rear end 1” and the HD gives you more arch and spring rate for increased loads. You will be surprised at how well it will handle when off roading and towing. …Yes I own a 18’ Gen2 and love it..

[@Maxx.Powell]

I'll deffinitly be doing this. Thanks bro!

[@markgarcia3239]

@@Maxx.Powell I added the ICON HD springs in my 2019 Raptor and experience no sag in my XP Pro and 16' trailer that was used at the ranch to haul tractors will full on sprayers. Good thing with ICON is you can add or remove leafs so if you go with the 3 leaf HD you will be more than fine!

[@RandomStuffGarage619]

Titan speaks truth. Watch keepitdirty offroad... he does a lot of rear leaf stuff with his gen2. He has a gen1 now but his 2 was sick until the steering system went to shit.

[@Kingcold2002]

Get a Ford F-250 tremor or f350 tremor

[@losoutdooradventures6213]

Great content. Just subscribed 👍🏼

[@Maxx.Powell]

Thank you! I really appreciate that 👊

[@warrenweaver556]

The raptor has a 8500lbs towing capacity. Make sure that you DO NOT exceed that!!!!!!

[@built4xploration253]

Warren Weaver Too late!

[@ericbuchta9765]

TFL truck. I’m pretty sure they said it was rated at 7k

[@RandomStuffGarage619]

Yup. Wrong tool for the job. Like bringing a goose gun for deer. My f150 can't do any sweet jumps but it can tow 12k. It's all in the leaf springs.

[@RandomStuffGarage619]

@@ericbuchta9765 those guys are awesome!

[@MathewV0317]

Using wizardry it distributes weight. Haha. “Your a wizard Harry”

[@jaymontange8260]

TFL Shows a built in weight indicator for tongue weight on a dial on the tow bar. That way you have a general ideal how much hitch weight.

[@Maxx.Powell]

Ooohh that would be sweet

[@jaymontange8260]

Maxx Powell etrailer.com. Has a hitch with a built in TW scale. Weight-safe hitch

[@jamosbikeshop1872]

just get an aluminum side by side trailer and call it good, that thing is so much heavier than it needs to be

[@apexpredator55]

easy answer get a tundra

[@paulgrice6766]

Is that three Pontiac Fieros I see at your friend Tyler's brings back memories I had a 86 GT

[@brandongarcia9911]

Should have gotten the tundra😬

[@SilverFoxz]

You should get air bags for the raptor

[@frankyq21]

Nothing beats air bags. You’ll still want air bags eventually. Can get them with DayStar air bag cradles so they don’t interfere with your suspension travel.

[@AscendingBliss]

I've never really cared about trailers, but that is such a freaking awesome trailer. How is it that you always have the most badass things???

[@Maxx.Powell]

Haha thanks bro. Idk man. I always keep my eye out for cool stuff and I look for good deals on used stuff that I can easily re sell if needed. Once I know what I want to need I work side jobs and overtime to afford it!

[@El_Gato718]

Get a power wagon or the TRX 😈

[@naterobinson6570]

Try putting the can am in front of the rzr. It might work better.

[@curtisswanson7584]

You need to add air bags to the truck for sure Maxx. Could be a great instructional video.

[@off-roadskys4250]

I need a trailer like that to tow my maverick sport and defender. Good price for trailer though.

[@thebenson1983]

Miss Carol !!!! Air bags!!!

[@theninja001]

You can go to a truck stop and use the scales to find out your loaded trailer weight and tongue weight

[@The_Lost_Alaskan78]

Ok, for the people that are wanting to put airbags on a raptor. Get a different truck!!!! The raptors are not made to tow heavy stuff. Shocking! Get a 3/4 ton or bigger if you want to haul tons of shit. I had a raptor from 2013-19. It had the power, that wasn’t the problem. The suspension is soft and meant for hauling ass off road. I sold and went with the AEV Ram 2500.

[@RandomStuffGarage619]

Or best of both worlds... I have a 2019 f150 fx4 with tow package and 3.5 ecoboost. Can pull 12k. And it's an stx so it's light... thing is a baby raptor!

[@foggydew646]

Max, air bags, air bags, air bags... They will assist in bringing the raptor height to stock, and set up properly will work with the weight distribution hitch. Foggy Dew....

[@ripfletching]

I’m in the Towing industry there is a cheap fix there’s a product called sumo springs there under $200 they will add 1000 pounds to your payload capacity don’t put airbags on a raptor it will mess up your suspension travel but the sumo springs will not

[@Maxx.Powell]

Thanks for the info man🍻

[@oceanapples]

Nutt to butt! I just had flashbacks to boot camp. The Tremor can do pull that easy.

[@jessewarren2689]

If those are Dayton wheels on the trailer, you might wanna make sure they are legal for your area.

[@willigator]

Would putting the Rzr in the back help?

[@robertj.ritchie2979]

The smaller sidexside should be on the front

[@chaseadventure]

I know you are trying to keep the truck stock, but you really should look into installing some airbags. They are pretty affordable and you would be able to install them pretty easily. Great video thanks for continuing to make good content even in these crazy times!

[@coyotedes6886]

Remember 60/40 weight distribution on the trailer is ideal. 60% of the weight in front of the axle and 40% behind the axle.

[@johnrobert1053]

I can’t wait to see this in a meme! Get a set of air bags for truck. Between load stabilizer and air bags you’d be golden.

[@RandomStuffGarage619]

Or just... buy a proper truck for towing?

[@jimmylane2384]

put some air bags on the truck

[@Sir_Chuckles_Channel]

find the heaviest sxs put it on the back then put the rear tires in that open box area on the back they dont need to be snugged together

[@bravoballer2]

Don't get airbags they only help with sag and dont actually help with weight issues. And also you can remove your trucks spare tire and put it on the trailer and give yourself another 100 lbs of tongue weight to play with.

[@ODXJ]

What trails did you go to? It looks familiar. But so does some of your clips of you driving around town.

[@MasterDrhd]

Time for some rear air bag

[@cadelangemore3114]

Easy fix: Ford F-350 6.7 Power Stroke

[@AllRightHauling]

I didn't read through all the comments, but did you try switching machine locations? Try the Canned-Ham on the front of the trailer and the Polaris on second. Adjusting the weight is critical.

[@donniejohnson8137]

Add a set of air bags up under it that is all you need ..... that ford will pull it ....

[@Maxx.Powell]

I think that's a great idea. Id love to add air bags

[@billpowers6802]

What length is that trailer? I'm gonna be hauling a Pro XP4 and an X3 soon.

[@Maxx.Powell]

32 feet I believe 🍻

[@OscarGarcia-tf6jg]

You need to still get it weighed, just to be on the safe side

[@J-GIB]

It would take less then 20 minutes to cut off those welds and weld it back on. Hit it with spray paint and you are golden.

[@jdbusybody]

Maxx dont spend alot for a lift. All you need to fit 37's is Geiser springs it raise front 2 or so inches.

[@A.Jacked]

Probably would want to throw the 4 seater in the back of the trailer and the two in the front

[@charlesedwards8030]

Looks like you need a bigger truck.

[@lanceleibnitz7705]

Max. I have said it multiple times...a towing vehicle is a diesel 3/4 ton and up.

[@kecknj]

Yeah dude like 6 times in this one thread. Lay off.

[@TRMN8R03]

I'm looking into getting a Raptor Ranger and i want to tow my 03 cobra racecar. Would this setup make pulling a car with a Ranger Raptor work or is that just going to be too small of a truck even if it has the same power Level of you Raptor

[@Blue-P51]

Raptor is good eye candy yes... but for towing I’m guessing not so much. I’m only guessing the total weight with two toys on the trailer...? Time for an F-250 or 350.. you’d love it!!

[@RandomStuffGarage619]

Even an f150 with tow package will easily tow that. Mine can tow 12k.

[@bmac8130]

You didn’t say “that’s not going anywhere when you tightened the big strap ...Are you even a dad lol. And yes I know you said it when Tyler was questioning the small straps but that doesn’t count.

[@Maxx.Powell]

Dammit! You're right! I have failed as a man and as a dad

[@bmac8130]

Maxx Powell wouldn’t say that.... but your dad jokes are weak! Lol

[@ericbuchta9765]

Is that more then the raptor is rated to pull.

[@Maxx.Powell]

The only thing limiting the Raptor is the rear leafsprings not power or gearing. With a weight distribution hitch compensating for the soft springs the rapto can easily tow 10k no problem

[@ericbuchta9765]

It will pull it I’m sure. I thought that the manufacturers under rated them bc they have off road suspension. My SS Silverado was rated at 7000 pounds.

[@LOOKFAST]

@maxpowell 541 overland beat me to the comment but you can get air bags with compressor for about 500 and also put a quick connect to a compressor for a air hose to fill tires and other things while over landing . And adjust your bags on the fly.

[@milonetzler67]

How much does trailer weigh and how much is total weight with both off road vehicles?

[@daltonwiseman2985]

The razor looks heavier. You could put it in the back.

[@brevinross4877]

I want a MP hat...

[@CampingRuss]

Definitely need airbags 5000 pound air lift kit in the back I agree with Tyler I did that with my truck I love them last time I checked my springs one was busted so keep an eye on the springs but my airbags definitely saved them great job on that trailer welding it to the sway bars that’s a big ass trailer to bro, I definitely need my next toy to be side-by-side two person that’s the next toy for camping Russ toys. 😆 ok 👌🏼🔥🤠🔥Camping Russ out ps tell Tyler I said hi 👋🏻