Best Towing Off-Road Truck! Ford Raptor vs Ram Rebel vs World's Toughest Towing Test

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@jackkirkpatrick2849
@jackkirkpatrick2849 5 жыл бұрын
I know how hard you guys work and I greatly appreciate the amazing and honest videos you produce for us. Thank you so much
@Ekimsnegdoh27
@Ekimsnegdoh27 5 жыл бұрын
Andre is definitely the hardest working Russian I know. 🤷🏻‍♂️ He really is one of the best on this channel. He’s definitely getting better and better every video. Go job Andre.
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 5 жыл бұрын
I wish he'd still throw in some Russian language once in a while. Always was entertaining.
@smokeu600
@smokeu600 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony C Do it for us Russians watching it.
@wolfmanrebel874
@wolfmanrebel874 5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, this is the only place on KZbin you can see a Russian...and a vehicle and it's not a crash compilation,lol
@oustaz1
@oustaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Andre is Russian?
@michaelpawluk6791
@michaelpawluk6791 5 жыл бұрын
All Russians are hard working
@thatoneitalianguyzl1727
@thatoneitalianguyzl1727 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for these awesome videos, have an very Merry Christmas!!
@Ahmad-yw5hl
@Ahmad-yw5hl 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video that you guys talking about how your great TFL company started. Great job guys❤️
@kirks6932
@kirks6932 5 жыл бұрын
whaat this person said
@kaliman198117ify
@kaliman198117ify 5 жыл бұрын
I should be sleeping right now but my little bell rang so I'm here watching this video. Again love the videos
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 5 жыл бұрын
You should see if you could mate the Rebel and Raptor. I'm sure the offspring would be fantastic. Just light some candles and give them a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil to set the mood.
@optimattprime
@optimattprime 5 жыл бұрын
Cars And Zebras offspring would be a trx (t-Rex)
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing that's ever been proven to mate with a Raptor is a tow truck.
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW 5 жыл бұрын
Pat MyGroin - FoRDs ArE UnRElIAble. Get off the internet kid. That old bullshit doesn’t fly anymore let me see any stock truck run the Baja 1000 and make it back home dumbass
@rme5596
@rme5596 5 жыл бұрын
leeleelee I guess pattycakes couldn’t argue that one
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 5 жыл бұрын
@@CoyoteFTW Haha. Is your 1 felling hurt?
@drewhiz7334
@drewhiz7334 5 жыл бұрын
Once again I've been educated while entertained on towing. I will probably never tow, go off road etc like you guys or many of your subscribers, but I enjoy learning more about it. Keep up the good work, Merry Christmas and be safe during the holidays!
@JustinKingOffroad
@JustinKingOffroad 5 жыл бұрын
"it's not going to stiffen me up" hahahahaha!! thanks i about choked on my coffee this morning!!!
@pajamatime5750
@pajamatime5750 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas TFL and to all the TFL subscribers that make up the TFL family!!! All the best in 2019! 🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼
@simontallboy209
@simontallboy209 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, enjoying the comments with people complaining about a Ram bias. Great video, and informative. As you've said in the past the Raptor is in a class of it's own, but people should know it comes with compromises and that is lower payload and towing. The Rebel isn't quite as good off road, but it is a better balanced truck since most of us aren't offroad all the time. I think you highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of each truck. Looking forwards to future reports on the Rebel's mileage. Keep up the good work.
@benjaminwayneb
@benjaminwayneb 5 жыл бұрын
The Rebel should be compared to an FX4 F150.
@simontallboy209
@simontallboy209 5 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminwayneb I agree. I think the Ram would take it. The payload and towing is comparable now that Ram has increased their numbers. The Ram interior is so much better. I think the motors are pretty much a draw. Ford really needs to spend some money on the F150 interior.
@benjaminwayneb
@benjaminwayneb 5 жыл бұрын
@@simontallboy209 Ram hasn't increased anything, same power as before and that Ram really struggled with that weight. I wouldn't want to see it try that run at max. load ( 4500 rpm. and 265 deg. oil temp.)
@simontallboy209
@simontallboy209 5 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminwayneb I have a 2015 and it's been fine under a load. I've run it though the mountains towing my travel trailer. Like any truck you need to watch you temps and adjust your driving to the conditions. The payload and towing on the new Ram is higher than my 2015. I've been looking at new trucks, and right now all the trucks are in the same ball park for towing and payload on a 4x4 Crewcab short bed. The ford can have better numbers, but that's a special order truck and If I was going to tow over 10000lbs on regularly I'd buy a 1 ton. I like the Ford and Ram, but if I was buying I'd buy another Ram. I find it rides nicer, the interior is much better. I'm looking forwards to seeing what the TFL guys get in mileage with the Etorque. My co worker has a 22015 Ecoboost and he does get slightly better mileage than I do, and both trucks are quite comfy. Not sure I like the styling of the new Ram. And these prices are getting out of hand.
@braedenblack6116
@braedenblack6116 5 жыл бұрын
Simon Tallboy plus the raptor is 15-20k more so price has to be considered.
@AscendingBliss
@AscendingBliss 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for taking so much time and putting in so much effort into thoroughly testing all of these vehicles.
@s.centralkeystone558
@s.centralkeystone558 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative and detailed video with lots of great footage. Great job and thanks for all of your hard work guys!
@Absotivalutely
@Absotivalutely 5 жыл бұрын
The Raptor is one badass truck
@tt55k
@tt55k 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas everyone !
@thirstypilgrim97
@thirstypilgrim97 5 жыл бұрын
Righteous sad grinch. Maybe next year
@thirstypilgrim97
@thirstypilgrim97 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to you!! May the pc snowflakes find some cheer this year.
@rainman7794
@rainman7794 5 жыл бұрын
Tt55 K merry Christmas too you
@JuanJose-cf8ps
@JuanJose-cf8ps 5 жыл бұрын
We live in 2018, it’s Happy Holidays
@AlejandroP1980s
@AlejandroP1980s 5 жыл бұрын
@Righteous so is good what the hell is Christmas let it snow starts playing
@RockyTop1911
@RockyTop1911 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks Guys.
@trevor8908
@trevor8908 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always guys. Your channels are the reason I actually set up a KZbin account just so I could subscribe to TFL.
@freedomjesse
@freedomjesse 5 жыл бұрын
That dodge sure was searching for gears on the way up, where the ford just held gears. Gotta love the torque of the eco boost.
@jackrotter9434
@jackrotter9434 5 жыл бұрын
Turbos* ecoboost is just a sales pitch.
@BamaShinesDistillery
@BamaShinesDistillery 5 жыл бұрын
@@jackrotter9434 Yeah, thats why chevy followed suit with their own turbo engines......
@DeltaSierra426
@DeltaSierra426 5 жыл бұрын
It found the gears, it just didn't want to hold one for too long. The Raptor is the technical victor, but a simple manual gear selection would rectify that issue in the Rebel, which any serious towing drivers should 1) be cognizant of for the given tow vehicle on how to operate 2) understand the reason to select a certain gear given the conditions at the time, be it driving hilly ups-and-downs, steep downhilll, or steep uphill.
@bbur75
@bbur75 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeltaSierra426 that's a good point
@FacuGonz3
@FacuGonz3 5 жыл бұрын
The RAM interior is just perfect.
@michaelbono2766
@michaelbono2766 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful is a better word
@dontderockmeriz4546
@dontderockmeriz4546 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos guys. Honest & fair with every test.
@alexcika9906
@alexcika9906 4 жыл бұрын
My wife and i just watched this , excellent review guys i will be getting a Rebel in the next month or so !
@platinumlawnservice
@platinumlawnservice 5 жыл бұрын
265 oil temp is getting up there...
@dustinmittel348
@dustinmittel348 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice they got a little side ways before the swap coming down the hill lol great save guys
@dww0902
@dww0902 5 жыл бұрын
Oh snap 16:36
@trailspeed7037
@trailspeed7037 5 жыл бұрын
Dustin Mittel lol I came to the comment section to see if anyone else noticed that.
@joelvasquez3931
@joelvasquez3931 5 жыл бұрын
The Ram also got a little sideways 32:34. It looks like they entered thr parking lot a little slower than in the Raptor trying no to repeat the slide
@Brandon_B.
@Brandon_B. 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Awesome Andre! Thanks guys! Very informative & helpful test!
@jacoblavender5766
@jacoblavender5766 5 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Informative and entertaining.
@crimsonstang
@crimsonstang 5 жыл бұрын
Andre, I'm loving the Ushanka! I have a nice mink Ushanka from Belarus.
@mikeferryman9920
@mikeferryman9920 4 жыл бұрын
20:40 " so we have to go into TALL HO mode " OMG hilarious lol
@renntech44
@renntech44 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas dudes! Looking forward to many videos in the future.
@joelesko681
@joelesko681 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to all at TFL!! Wishing you all a healthy, prosperous 2019.
@sevenfourgt1904
@sevenfourgt1904 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the efforts in your videos
@justinjonsson8988
@justinjonsson8988 5 жыл бұрын
23:33 not even a Rebel interior! Says Limited on the center storage compartment
@RHaines76Gaming
@RHaines76Gaming 5 жыл бұрын
I want to mention that my 2019 Rebel is equipped with available flip up towing mirrors. You don't have them but they are an option and are awesome!
@isaiahartrip7085
@isaiahartrip7085 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. You guys always make the best reviewa
@RANDOMHOBO01
@RANDOMHOBO01 5 жыл бұрын
Good test, the Hemi 5.7 performed well (coming from a Ford guy).
@jorangel87
@jorangel87 3 жыл бұрын
Both great trucks hard choice between the 2 but I choose the 2020 ram limited longhorn
@porter_thrall0118
@porter_thrall0118 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome back to off the ranch 😂 beginning theme music
@kralgrcan5318
@kralgrcan5318 5 жыл бұрын
Tfl making my Christmas merry thanks guys
@larryburnett100
@larryburnett100 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video lots of information can't wait to see that RAM maxed out 👍👍
@thatdamguy00
@thatdamguy00 5 жыл бұрын
I think a closer comparison would be the Rebel and an F-150 with the FX4 package. That F150 with fx4 has a higher tow rating than the Rebel
@BenJamin3149
@BenJamin3149 5 жыл бұрын
Will you guys do the Ike with Mr. Truck and the new Chevy 4500+?
@TheWVgoodguy22
@TheWVgoodguy22 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video and the first video on KZbin that I watched on my 36th birthday today, definitely a good start to my day. I would have to agree with you both for a swiss army knife truck that can tow, haul family and gear and still go off road (not all 3 at the same time of course haha) the RAM REBEL is the winner (or Chevy LT Trail Boss, GMC Sierra AT4) in doing all 3 well. The Raptor did great though for what it is, but has its limits as you two stated when it comes to trying to tow and haul more than two people with that kind of weight would be fine with a 5k lb trailer. Thanks again.
@owen_81
@owen_81 5 жыл бұрын
I just sent this question in. 😀 Glad to see you were already thinking it.
@Slyder2828
@Slyder2828 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the work you do🎅🏼👍🏻
@uNkLeRaRa4
@uNkLeRaRa4 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what "Tall Ho" mode is, but I wish it came with my truck 🤣
@ramrebelwithpaws7208
@ramrebelwithpaws7208 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate these reviews and you do a great job. I own a 2017 Rebel and absolutely love it but your reviews make me want to update to a 2019. Lol
@rkalla
@rkalla 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool callout for coworkers and the effort they put in. The channel wouldn’t be what it is without the 200% you all put in.
@IDontKnowHer212
@IDontKnowHer212 5 жыл бұрын
The Raptor is my favorite hands down, even if it’s not the perfect vehicle, I mean no one or anything can always be #1 at everything.
@idontcaresapo8233
@idontcaresapo8233 4 жыл бұрын
Liev same here it’s just that I can’t afford it.. so me second favorite is the 2019 rebel so I’m getting that one in a few moths
@xx_sam_xxss5305
@xx_sam_xxss5305 3 жыл бұрын
Me too bro
@20smgreen
@20smgreen 5 жыл бұрын
Do you guys ever use cruise control going up or down? Wonder if the CC would help brake downhill w/o using the brake manually.
@SSMJ
@SSMJ 5 жыл бұрын
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: That is not how that works 😂
@20smgreen
@20smgreen 5 жыл бұрын
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: You limit the gear that the truck will go plus being in tow/haul mode the computer knows. Not saying it won't work, but..... In my 2000 Sierra ext cab Z71 stepside I kept it out of OD and set cruise pulling a 30' RV trailer up and down the hills in Tennessee. Cruise controlled the truck to a point vs not having it on.
@20smgreen
@20smgreen 5 жыл бұрын
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: They're nothing to laugh at, granted they're not what Colorado has but they have some that are still 6 and 7% grade.
@Carlos-pe1cg
@Carlos-pe1cg 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks TFL for the awesome videos you put out. Merry Xmas.
@59BigWalt
@59BigWalt 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Merry Christmas Guys.
@Digger927
@Digger927 5 жыл бұрын
In the raptor you had the right rear window down for the noise test, not really a fair comparison there. I disagree the Ram is better for towing...just by the legal rating it's arguable but the real world test showed the Raptor went up with loads of power to spare, the Ram did not then the Raptor was clearly better going down so your conclusion is highly suspect.
@jaromjenkins1834
@jaromjenkins1834 5 жыл бұрын
7:20. I don’t know so much about that. We put 5,000 pounds behind our 1997 Ford F-150 Extended Cab with 6 people in it no problem. Handles it like a dream. I see no reason as to why you couldn’t do it with a truck that’s 22 years newer and double the horsepower.
@Tonyxyp
@Tonyxyp 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the raptor is essential an offroading or race oriented F-150 variant. It makes sense that it isn't optimized for towing. I am sure the new F-150 trucks can outperform the Rebel. There are many tests of uphill towing ability on the internet you can easily google it and see the results. The F-150 beats all its competition by miles. Literally miles xD
@DannyECO7
@DannyECO7 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas from Puerto Rico!
@jw8578
@jw8578 3 жыл бұрын
'Doesn't stiffen me up on the way down'. Andre, best truck video line ever...
@thatfakelaramieslt7127
@thatfakelaramieslt7127 5 жыл бұрын
Who ever is reading this hopefully you have a great day
@robertpowers1045
@robertpowers1045 5 жыл бұрын
Straight Piped 99 and a Merry Christmas🌲 ☃️ and Happy New year🎉🍾
@thatfakelaramieslt7127
@thatfakelaramieslt7127 5 жыл бұрын
robert powers same to you
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 5 жыл бұрын
You to Merry Christmas
@strakill
@strakill 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Have a Merry Christmas.
@thatfakelaramieslt7127
@thatfakelaramieslt7127 5 жыл бұрын
strakill you to
@evanpugh7599
@evanpugh7599 5 жыл бұрын
Well yeah the raptor has less payload compared to the rebel. The Raptor is definitely more of an offroad truck than the rebel. It literally has seven modes for any purpose. Not to mention fox shocks compared to air ride. When ford introduced the raptor they didn't make it to tow a heavy load.
@rooster3019
@rooster3019 5 жыл бұрын
I have been guilty of chiding Andre, all in good fun, about his nervous and timid off road technique; BUT in this episode Andre is the BEAST! Good job!
@JsGarage
@JsGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see the Ram actually grade shifts because the 5th gens with 8 speed like mine definitely don’t. At least I can manually limit gears but it should have been able to grade shift. Ford grade shift has always been quite good in my experience. These new Rams are awesome though.
@robertstutts8315
@robertstutts8315 5 жыл бұрын
Alright! Today on The Fast Lane Truck lets take two city slicker trucks designed for strict off road driving that will never actually touch dirt on a towing test! And then let’s crown the truck that performed poorly the winner!
@dan4500
@dan4500 4 жыл бұрын
I snorted hahaha. I have a Raptor and take it off road constantly, but I hear you. I see so many pavement queens it makes me sad. But hey, if someone has the money to spend $70k+ on a daily driver truck then so be it.
@npsit1
@npsit1 5 жыл бұрын
10:28 Why would they force you to listen to the "augmented exhaust"? I'd be pulling that fuse out...
@kevinanglin678
@kevinanglin678 5 жыл бұрын
I think they make a kit to disable it online
@JLeeChron
@JLeeChron 5 жыл бұрын
You can just ask the service department to disable it. They will in my experience
@harleyjackson5513
@harleyjackson5513 5 жыл бұрын
Righteous, screw you!
@mrclean5953
@mrclean5953 5 жыл бұрын
Disable through forscan!
@tictacap
@tictacap 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrclean5953 foreskin?
@bogdanmamalat2671
@bogdanmamalat2671 5 жыл бұрын
Stiffin me up on the way down hahaha that was awesome lol
@duggydo
@duggydo 5 жыл бұрын
Really good video. The augmented engine noise is a horrible idea. I agree with Roman.
@ts9271
@ts9271 5 жыл бұрын
The difference is that the rebel is a street truck that you can take off road. The raptor is an off road truck that you can still tow with. Both are designed to serve a different purpose.
@krane15
@krane15 5 жыл бұрын
They serve the exact same purpose.
@ts9271
@ts9271 5 жыл бұрын
@@krane15 yes and no. I honestly wonder how many raptor owners actually take their trucks off road.
@dahveed284
@dahveed284 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct. The Dodge is a 4x4 work truck. The Raptor is a 4x4 desert race truck. Had they wanted a fair comparison, they would have compared the Dodge to a Ford 4x4 work truck.
@BamaShinesDistillery
@BamaShinesDistillery 5 жыл бұрын
@@dahveed284 No because the 4x4 Ford fx4 would kill the Rebel in a towing test.....The last 150 they took up with 9200 lbs beat the bench mark.......ofcourse they then dinged it because they did not get one with towing mirrors.........it took 10 applications going down as well....
@jasondonohue7355
@jasondonohue7355 5 жыл бұрын
T S i think the Rebel is more of a direct competitor to the STX than the Raptor
@joshuabray5224
@joshuabray5224 5 жыл бұрын
“Stiffen me up” lol
@ldmtag
@ldmtag 4 жыл бұрын
What does it actually mean?
@mitchelllong5848
@mitchelllong5848 5 жыл бұрын
Great video been waiting for this, don’t they have a Mopar Accessories exhaust system?
@phillipjoy8191
@phillipjoy8191 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the videos.Merry Christmas
@elliottwalsh94
@elliottwalsh94 5 жыл бұрын
16:40 drifting the raptor w/ trailer into the parking lot!
@truckertoddllc
@truckertoddllc 5 жыл бұрын
Roman has definitely became a Ram fan boy and Andre has become a yes man.
@joesainato8051
@joesainato8051 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and the hitch hooks are a pain on the 150. I added heavy duty hook points and that solved that issue. Relatively the payload is low for both when you start putting gear and humans in. Both great trucks. Imo 8000 is a good number for 1/2 ton trucks. Yes my 17 F150 is rated at 11,300 would I pull it if I had to yes. But when you get up to those higher weights if you are towing consistently at all it really should go to 3/4 ton. I had just me in truck and it only weighs 5860
@Tully3674
@Tully3674 5 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@steveadams8977
@steveadams8977 5 жыл бұрын
Love the channel and all the honest reviews 🤙
@BsurfChillin
@BsurfChillin 5 жыл бұрын
16:49 sliding in back end, woah!
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
Your timestamp is a bit off but yeah. Good catch
@knealford
@knealford 5 жыл бұрын
That was a good save pulling the raptor into the snow sideways before hooking onto the rebel
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 5 жыл бұрын
Nice hat, Andre! Where'd you get it? :D My 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk specified a break-in period for towing- the first 500 mi. towing is limited to 50 mph.
@danfun375
@danfun375 5 жыл бұрын
Another awesome IKE
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 5 жыл бұрын
I like that Ike guy... seems pretty cool.
@chrismyers1725
@chrismyers1725 5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Andre is exhausted from putting a hose in a water jug. Ooooh the horror
@JLeeChron
@JLeeChron 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Myers that, and putting it into the same position as before....haha
@bennyb6071
@bennyb6071 5 жыл бұрын
Not having a 9 to 5 job and driving the newest and best trucks must be horrible as well
@donaldogerber1196
@donaldogerber1196 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are fantastic 😉
@Masterchief.1033
@Masterchief.1033 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are my favorite auto channel
@harrymaier5727
@harrymaier5727 5 жыл бұрын
oil temperature in the boundary with snow? hahaha imagine that crap of hemi in summer?
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 5 жыл бұрын
Oil temps were fine for both trucks. Not even close to being hot.
@Rj-to8qm
@Rj-to8qm 5 жыл бұрын
@@EGGINFOOLS 264 in the winter is hot, imagine this on a 80°F day
@ricwestdoesitwork
@ricwestdoesitwork 5 жыл бұрын
Great test! I would have picked the Ram before you even hooked up to it just because of the towing ability and payload. Having to brake 2 more times wasn't a big deal with me.
@SSMJ
@SSMJ 5 жыл бұрын
What's interesting to me is that they're letting the truck and its software do all the engine braking, instead of actually manually selecting a lower gear. I would bet you the RAM based off the RPMs could probably go down another gear and still be okay and that would definitely increase the engine braking performance by quite a bit. The Raptor software did a much better job however, and kept that thing about as high as it possibly could go in terms of RPMs without sitting in Red Line. That's probably the biggest difference between these two trucks in the downhill tests, which is super interesting.
@tinkleburn5574
@tinkleburn5574 5 жыл бұрын
The extra breaking is worry some, aspecally so far below max cap... Meaning dodge may have exaggerated the numbers... Very dangerous
@krisherrera9834
@krisherrera9834 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing I regret about my 19 ram rebel is not getting the level 2 package and the 12 in screen, but besides that i love it
@retroelectro1190
@retroelectro1190 4 жыл бұрын
Going to pickup my 2020 Ram Rebel Black Edition (fully loaded) in 3 days. Trading in my 2017 Big Horn....Can't wait!!!
@claude3990
@claude3990 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video, but as you guys always have said the Rebel is more of a comparison to a F150 FX4 pkg. The Raptor is not made for towing, you guys know that..Please retest the Rebel against the F150 FX4 pkg. I do agree that Rebel interior is Gorgeous. Happy Holidays
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 5 жыл бұрын
Yet it's rated for 8k.hmmm..
@benjaminwayneb
@benjaminwayneb 5 жыл бұрын
@@EGGINFOOLS It looks like the Ram should be rated for about 6000 lbs. by the way it struggled with this weight!
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 5 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminwayneb It shifted alot yet had a faster time!
@slimjimmy693
@slimjimmy693 5 жыл бұрын
The raptor wasn’t built for hauling trailers...
@kipp2139
@kipp2139 4 жыл бұрын
Every truck is made to haul at least a little
@billrobsham697
@billrobsham697 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah , I agree. I mean it can but wasn't purpose built for it specifically. I'm almost thinking the F-150 Tremor would have been a better component in this test. Probably built for work and play with the right all around gearing
@Nmatenum420
@Nmatenum420 Жыл бұрын
Love the trailer hitch comment I felt the same way . Going from my Chevy to my work f150 I was like what am I doing wrong and came to same conclusion
@frngljav
@frngljav 5 жыл бұрын
How is it possible that hardcore truck has the same payload as 2wd sedan? And driving like that (5500rpm) for sure ccannot be good for engine...
@mikefahy482
@mikefahy482 5 жыл бұрын
Offroad suspension doesn't work well for towing or payload
@UniversityOfTurmoil
@UniversityOfTurmoil 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It seems the 'full size' American pickups have half the payload compared to a 'small' truck like a Hilux. I wonder if the American version of the new Ranger is similarly down-rated compared to the Rest-of-the-World versions.
@ShelbygtR-wo8wh
@ShelbygtR-wo8wh 5 жыл бұрын
@@UniversityOfTurmoil The top payload on the Ranger in the US will be 1,860 lbs,the top payload for a F-150 is 3,230 lbs
@ericgarcia5108
@ericgarcia5108 5 жыл бұрын
Ok so, a couple of problems with this video. But first off before a say anything else. The Ford Raptor and the Dodge Ram Rebel are NOT in the same class, not even close! The Ram Rebel compares more to the Chevy Silverado Z71 or the Ford F150 Fx4. The Raptor is in it's own completely separate league. What the Ram Rebel essentially is, is just a normal 1500 on coilovers and air bags. Other than that there is nothing special about the Ram. The reason the Raptor doesn't tow as much is because of it's specifically offroad suspension. As I mentioned before, not a normal everyday truck like the Ram. But i'm obviously not telling you something you don't know. What doesn't make sense though. Is that the Ram got the same MPG's and time as the Raptor. When the Raptor was at it's max towing rating, and the Ram still had several thousand post to go. Not only that, but it also had to break the most out of the two, again while the Ram not towing max. So how did it win when the Ram did the same in one segment, and did WORSE in the other segment? That makes no sense what so ever. I honestly can't wait to see when you max out the Ram. Because if it did the same or WORSE as the Raptor. With still several thousand pounds to go. Then it's probably gonna do terrible with max towing. Might have to floor it all the way up, and break 10 times on the way down. Look, I understand that you are excited about your new truck. But that doesn't mean you should say the other is worse, just because you got the competitor. In other words, don't be bias.
@grgoss1
@grgoss1 5 жыл бұрын
Well said. And I would flip the argument around too. Put 3 or 4000 lb trailers on and do a side by side comparison. Watch raptor clean up. And ya, everyone understands that if you want to tow heavy, get the dodge.
@grgoss1
@grgoss1 5 жыл бұрын
I would add, I don't mind they tested the raptor against the rebel. I get the raptor is an offroad beast and not really set up for towing, but if I get one, I will be using it as a daily driver, for towing light trailers (under 5000 lbs), for carrying some loads to the dump, for some light 4x4 (not bashing and abusing it, but using it) and for gravel roads. It wouldn't be parked in a garage and only used on high speed offroad days, so the info is helpful. Based on everything I've seen, would love the raptor with the sole exception being the wider track on tight trails and the dumb fake exhaust tone.
@bobclark6350
@bobclark6350 5 жыл бұрын
Because both vehicles were able to hold 60 mph going uphill I'm not surprised that they did it in the same time. In other words, even if you had all the power in the world you would still make the same time because you can't go faster than 60 mph. So, the only exception was the acceleration part in which case one might argue one truck should have been faster than the other which is where I might argue that the Ram should have been a little faster since not at max payload. But max payload is more of a structural rating (tow ratings do not give an effective speed range) keeping in mind that the Ram also has less horsepower/torque.
@lancekohl124
@lancekohl124 5 жыл бұрын
What about the fact the raptor is $20k more than a Rebel? Many Raptors are over $70k.
@grgoss1
@grgoss1 5 жыл бұрын
@@lancekohl124 I guess for me, price is easy to figure out. Function requires some more thought. Then you can overlay price to figure out what features and functionality are worth the price.
@fleshrocker
@fleshrocker 5 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@mikemissouri5152
@mikemissouri5152 5 жыл бұрын
Oil temp was 265 in the Ram. Seems pretty hot especially with the cold outside temp. What if it was 95 degrees outside?
@Deepanimosity
@Deepanimosity 5 жыл бұрын
264 degrees oil temp seems like an awful lot....
@philtripe
@philtripe 5 жыл бұрын
it sure is. dinosaur oil would cook into paste before long and he says it will tow more? not if it was my truck
@tsslaporte
@tsslaporte 5 жыл бұрын
@@trp2413 my Camaro SS 1LE sees 285F oil temps at the track and is 100% ok. Modern Oil is robust.
@FrankySilverFace
@FrankySilverFace 5 жыл бұрын
I thought so too. Especially in the colder Temps of this test. The Ike must be one MOTHER of a hill!
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 5 жыл бұрын
That oils temp is just fine.
@matthewhartup941
@matthewhartup941 5 жыл бұрын
Hot enough to deep fry some flightless yard bird
@Kevin-lm9ex
@Kevin-lm9ex 5 жыл бұрын
Rebel is cool truck but needs some engine updates
@JohnDoe-nz6bk
@JohnDoe-nz6bk 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Kelly it's fine!
@Kevin-lm9ex
@Kevin-lm9ex 5 жыл бұрын
Americans don’t want fine we want more ha ha
@SeanOzz
@SeanOzz 6 ай бұрын
I live in Dillon and have a jeep Mojave. I just got a horse and have learned the Mojave can only tow 4500 lbs. so I’m trying to decide if I have to trade it in. Any suggestions on a truck that will still be fun like the gladiator for trails in the mountains and tow a two horse trailer in the mountains ? I’m guessing 7000-10000 lbs will be needed. Google keeps showing me the f-150 but the raptor looks like it might be more fun like the gladiator ?
@calebgopinath2071
@calebgopinath2071 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@davidstephens8871
@davidstephens8871 5 жыл бұрын
Was that the "Off the Ranch" intro music?
@robertwalker1248
@robertwalker1248 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it was
@dmegahan
@dmegahan 5 жыл бұрын
It actually was played here first long before Matt started using it in off the ranch. That particular track is copyright free so no royalties have to paid. Hence why you will actually see it in many different you tube video. TIL has used it for about 4 years now. Off the ranch only about 8 months.
@blakeybw
@blakeybw 5 жыл бұрын
The Raptors needs a V8 5.0 Twin Turbo period, a V6 is not for a Pickup Truck.
@dan4500
@dan4500 4 жыл бұрын
It had a 6.2L that the V6 just dominates in terms of HP and TQ... So yeah, not everything needs a V8.
@lance_r72
@lance_r72 5 жыл бұрын
Great work! I am curious as to how you got a REBEL without the REBEL seats??
@garbage854
@garbage854 5 жыл бұрын
Good video 😀
@andyhighsmith6519
@andyhighsmith6519 5 жыл бұрын
I think the real but is that a more apples to apples comparison is an FX4
@mikefahy482
@mikefahy482 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, raptor is way different than the ram
@tinkleburn5574
@tinkleburn5574 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, they are comparing a workhorse to a racehorse
@mikefahy482
@mikefahy482 5 жыл бұрын
@@tinkleburn5574 dessert runner vs a normal truck with bigger tires
@tinkleburn5574
@tinkleburn5574 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikefahy482 lol and a miner suspension upgrade xD edit, or downgrade?
@JohnDoe-nz6bk
@JohnDoe-nz6bk 5 жыл бұрын
Fx4 is only skid plates and Ford shocks.
@stubblekusaf
@stubblekusaf 5 жыл бұрын
Hearing ya'll complain about the augmented exhaust note is getting old.
@psx2rulz2
@psx2rulz2 5 жыл бұрын
@Rick Johnston You can't just "take out the fuse" for stuff like that. It's built into the software of the truck. They're all rolling computers now.
@psx2rulz2
@psx2rulz2 5 жыл бұрын
@Rick Johnston Yea really. If it's an augmented exhaust note piped through the speakers, that really can only be done via software and I can almost guarantee a dealer wouldn't turn that off for you. I am pretty sure you can buy a tuner or get a tune and have it turned off however.
@dahveed284
@dahveed284 5 жыл бұрын
@@psx2rulz2 Its an interesting question. If I had a new Raptor, I would want the ability to control the fake engine noise. Especially if its only in the cab. I'd turn it off.
@justinslishinsky6551
@justinslishinsky6551 5 жыл бұрын
Any chance you guys tested the Silverado Trailboss on the Ike? Love to see that vid. Thanks again for awesome reviews.
@dirtsailoroff-road5580
@dirtsailoroff-road5580 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2016 ram rebel and I love it. It looks mean as hell.
@teop7887
@teop7887 5 жыл бұрын
The Raptor is designed for off-road racing, not towing, the suspension is too "soft". The Ram is the obvious choice. Still, I'd take the Raptor 😁 Merry Christmas!
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