Raptor vs Durango SRT Take On the World's Toughest Towing Test!

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[@ared8712]

SRT has my vote.

[@TBD2014]

I own both, love driving both. But the Dodge SRT gets me more excited getting into than the Raptor. It sounds better, is quicker, and has a better interior. Great video and comparison. These are the 2 best Truck and SUV on the market.

[@samtunks8833]

Now we have the trx tho

[@hx520w]

Good to see a towing review that includes vehicle temperatures. I like that Dodge gives exact temperatures for a wide range of components instead of having a few nebulous gauges.

[@danbrauner9247]

Just a thought guys, why don't you time it to 60 when you start the test? It could be good statistic for merging. Anyways love the videos guys keep it up!

[@barbaraschenck5691]

Dan Brauner... GREAT idea! TFL Truck, "Make it so!"

[@Treyk901]

I like that idea. Time the acceleration to the speed limit and then time every moment it can’t maintain speed due to power. I know it’s not practical but I would love to see you floor it the whole way up to truly see who’s the fastest. I’ve seen Ford do a video like this showing off the 2.7 vs the competition.

[@johnnyrocket8523]

I agree. Great idea

[@JonBecker81]

Trey K yeah It doesn’t show which one is actually faster when they both are able to just maintain 60. I wish they could find a big long hill like that where there’s traffic and do it side by side drag race style. Or better yet take the trailers to a drag strip and do a 1/4 mile. TFL, if you’re reading these then make that happen!

[@billyhw5492]

Raptor loses a point for the fake sound.

[@Inzane0216]

facts

[@slaveryn7824]

yes i gree

[@lancewelliott]

Oil temp 293 on the Durango! Ouch, props to the trans keeping 200 though

[@lfsracer79]

Yeah the oil will have a very short life being that hot. It really needs a cooler.

[@ALMX5DP]

Ifsracer79 I agree. Just like the lack of brake controller, it seems Dodge doesnt believe the customers of this SRT will tow too often or too much. They may be right, but I'd still prefer my SUV to have accessories in place to ensure I dont overstress my $70k vehicle.

[@AWDfreak]

That engine coolant temperature was quite high at 239 degrees Fahrenheit. Perhaps the 392 HEMI is a bit under-cooled for severe towing...

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

1 mile Above sea level meaning it had to work harder to pull cause it’s naturally aspirated I bet at altitude it wouldn’t have to work Nearly as hard

[@1FastGXP]

I hope it comes with full synthetic oil as the factory fill. 293°F, definitely needs an oil cooler.

[@virenvs905]

The 6.4 hemi got better mileage than the ecoboost. 😂😂😂

[@deanhallockify]

Viren vs the raptor has smaller engine, more weight, bigger tires and the truck is not designed to tow... the durango on the other hand is street oriented, much lighter and yes a bigger engine but that means that it doesn't have to work as hard because it has more power.

[@alexsj5790]

john doe so lol it's a piece of shit you Ford guys always put excuses .. blame tires blame weight blame elevation LMAO fucken cowards stgu Ford is piece of shit a suv hauls more than that piece of turd raptor

[@deanhallockify]

Alex Bajo apparently you dont know much about trucks and towing. vehicle weight, tire size, and engine size/power output are the biggest factors when towing. and at the end of the day, neither vehicle is designed for towing. and you shouldn't use so many insults for no reason, it makes you seem immature and unable to have a civil conversation.

[@Stuka87]

We have no way of knowing which got better economy. They would need to fill both trucks at the bottom, and then see how much it took to get up the hill. TFL has proven many times that the in-car computer is wrong more than it is right.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

nope have you looked up the weight of these, im sure they are very close to the same weight man

[@DanielJaegerFilms]

People seemed surprised the Raptor got almost 1 MPG less than the Durango... did you honestly expect a truck built for off-roading with massive tires to get the same fuel mileage as a street SUV?

[@philtripe]

its wrong...theres no way in hell that either computer accurate and the 4.7 mpg is just stupid...that proves they should never look at the estimated mileage ever again

[@alexsj5790]

DanielJaegerFilms yeah n it has a small motor Ford is piece of shit

[@jgcmitchell]

Twin turbos=more air into the V6. More fuel is needed to compensate for the extra air

[@ckeegan003]

Alex Bajo yeah, that "small motor" smokes every other 1/2 ton truck and out tows them too. If you watched TFL, you'd know that.

[@Stuka87]

Alex Bajo Please, explain to us how the new 3.5L is a PoS.

[@rooster3019]

I had the F150 2013 booster and now the 2018 Raptor with improved version of same size V6. They both get remarkable fule economy when only lightly worked, but both guzzle fuel when worked harder. However the new Raptor mileage is better than the 2013 regular version. The Raptor is not what I would buy as primarily a tow vehicle, but I do use to tow my utility tractors when needed and that has been no problem.

[@StyfeLife]

Nice seeing someone do a max towing test on the Raptor. Ive towed with my 17 Raptor but just four wheelers. Nice seeing a max test and having it do well!

[@truckguyjoe]

Good Saturday morning TFL Truck & TFL Truck Subscribers!

[@weialles_weinix3900]

truckguyjoe Same to you👍

[@topdawgentlv7029]

Same to you up at 4am to go to work, but had to check this out real quick

[@theunderdogpickup5879]

Morning Truckguyjoe

[@MrSentinel1981]

And good evening from Ukraine)))

[@JMedia909]

"It does help to have that extra girth" 😂😂😂

[@BreckoniousMaximus]

that's what she said!

[@viperkill3]

This was surprisingly even...I was expecting bigger differences between the two.. awesome test guys..

[@mauiman52]

Nathan and Andre are the fun crew at TFL!

[@jedironin380]

Nathan- Love the Datsun shirt! I had an '81 310 hatchback. The 0-60 with the Durango towing was great! :)

[@TheIrishPhantom]

So the Raptor has a higher gear ratio which hurts MPG but it's tires are nearly 35" tall which more than gives it a gear advantage for fuel economy (and 2 extra gears). I blame aerodynamics, the Raptor is wider and taller off the ground. Either way... put the Hemi in the Raptor and the gas mileage would more than likely be the same as what the ecoboost got or slightly better. Which is my point. I don't hate the Raptor, I hate the engine. If a much larger displacement engine with less torque can beat a turbocharged one up a mountain in fuel economy... well then the whole point of an ecoboost was just shit on.

[@taylorjackson3302]

Keep the vids coming. Cool test. I would have liked to see the temps on the raptor as was shown on the durango

[@vanandsolaradventures9079]

TFL, thanks for all your work posting these videos, good information that no one else has covered that I could find on youtube

[@1glenmore]

Aren't we missing a couple of things? No mention was made that the Raptor was able to maintain 60 mph at only 3k rpm in a higher, whereas the Durango was at 5k rpm in 3rd, I believe. As to mpg, the Raptor develops more horse power, which takes more fuel to deliver.

[@turboaccord1]

The 392 in the Durango needs a proper air to oil cooler like the hellcat. I had a scat pack with the 392 and it always ran really hot when worked hard...especially in the summer.

[@mikehawk120]

My 392 Durango is the same, runs sooooo hot, even when farting around. Spot on with your comment, plenty of places they can put one.

[@Liplip40]

Awesome test - recently picked up the SRT and can’t wait to throw a boat behind it. Awesome family hot rod

[@JohnDiMartino]

I love the sound of the Hemi,but the 3.5 ecoboost seemed to be pulling with less drama and less rpm for the most part....I expected the Hemi to pull that well,the raptor impressed me....its engine is only a little more than half the size of the blown Hemi....this test would have been more even mpg wise if they had used the the regular f150 3.5 ecoboost not the raptor version..

[@dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561]

John DiMartino Twin. Turbos.

[@ragtop63]

The Durango is naturally aspirated. It's not supercharged (blown).

[@mmholling87]

@Waylon Miller huh? The Raptor is the worst towing vehicle. It has heavy 35" tires, lifted, the wide fender flares hurt aerodynamics. A regular f150 would have done better.

[@howardburleigh3568]

@@mmholling87 I think that's what he was saying. Because a standard F150 with ecoboost was mentioned in the original comment.

[@vette4life518]

Such a good channel... such good content!

[@neitzp]

That was good! Thank you for doing that comparison. It helped me more than you know.

[@carloscarreon4133]

Any word on that raptor, zr2, power wagon video we were told about?

[@cambradley9405]

SO glad you guys made this video, I've been comparing theses myself and this video is helpful

[@golfredhost3348]

YOU DEFINITELY SHOULD DO A LONG TERM TEST TO THAT DURANGO just as you did with the hellcat!!!

[@xx2Reed5xx]

Been digging the videos guys! Been very interesting and very non partial in passing judgement it's been really objective and helpful. Can't wait to see the new ford mustang gt vs camaro ss vids coming soon :D !!!!

[@joeseay2883]

You really trust these guys to do it right.? Not that they wouldn't be fair. Need a couple of 25 yr olds doing this stuff on the drag racing part.These guys are too slow. I know cuz I'm old.

[@barbaraschenck5691]

TFL Truck... Another GREAT video! I know there's probably more guys than gals subscribed, but (LOL) this channel is like a sitcom for dude's... I'm addicted (really), I look for new videos every stink'in day! Keep it up! Oh, who's the ONE dweeb that 'Thumbed Down' the video?!

[@joelesko681]

This was a great fun video! Think I’d take the Durango

[@mariokapllaniofficial2286]

You should make a Ike Gauntlet with the G65 AMG

[@TheBlecht]

The lack of brake controller and smaller tank on the Durango should make the Raptor the winner right off the bat. Add that the Raptor did the towing test quicker and I think it should be pretty obvious.

[@russandadamsgarage105]

The oil and coolant temps were near putting the vehicle into limp mode.

[@Dfour]

Who wants to tow at 5000 rpms for extended periods of time, even a good sounding engine will get annoying. Not to mention the added wear to the motor.

[@timg9448]

RIC C That’s only on a 7 degree uphill grade. Don’t think it would be that high-Erving on a level road.

[@Dfour]

Yeah on a level road the eco will be at 1500 and the Durango at 3000

[@Welcometofacsistube]

RPM!!!!!

[@zacharymartin4861]

RIC C They would both be at around 1500 to 2000.

[@Dfour]

Zachary Martin doubt it bc the Durango don't have the tq to pull it in overdrive

[@1970HondaCL100]

Dat sun pulled Andre into orbit.

[@joeymorris9866]

Did you put premium fuel in the Raptor for towing, as stated in the owners manual ?

[@Treyk901]

I too would like to know.

[@squeeb8141]

Trey K me as well

[@timg9448]

Joey Morris I seriously doubt they read the manual, and doubt they added premium fuel too.

[@omarfigueroa9193]

Yes I want to know too I have a f150 eco boost

[@TeamAdrenalinePHX]

Anything running turbos should ONLY put premium.

[@MikeJohnson-nr4yo]

They both did better than I expected, especially the Durango.

[@kirkenstang]

I wonder how that Durango would do if it was hot out? Especially since it got so hot so quick.

[@jssavig]

thank you guys for showing the temps

[@a65232]

Since comparing an SUV to a truck is a possibility, can we see a 2018 Transit 350 vs a 2018 Nissan 3500 up the Gauntlet? While trucks sell very well, big vans are being sold too. Weirdos like me will (occasionally) want to haul 10,000lb trailers along with 11 passengers. (Taking a big family boating on the lake, perhaps?) Business owners might want to see how their vans can handle Ike Gauntlet-level torture testing as well.

[@KingDavid314]

Wow, I'm completely stunned at the results.

[@tdeloriea]

I just traded my 15 BMW X5 diesel for a 18 Raptor. While I love having a truck again I miss the mileage and ease of towing the X5 was capable of with an Execuhitch setup. It towed my 7x20 VRV with Harley in it from Mass to Sturgis and back at over 14 mpg. The Raptor just towed the same setup to WV and back getting 9 mpg as an avg. both towed the trailer like the sports vehicles they are. Great acceleration and brakes. The Raptor in tow mode down shifting when brakes were applied is great feature.

[@njdoughboy]

More SUVS on the Ike please.

[@baddriversofnorthtexas6850]

Both of those trucks put together is the price of a decent size house. Wtf

[@dram340]

Bad Drivers of North Texas I paid 78 k for a house in florida

[@dram340]

Bad Drivers of North Texas 1700 sq ft

[@zacharymartin4861]

My childhood home cost 10k less than both trucks put together.

[@jordanayala5111]

Bad Drivers of North Texas well i live in california so you with that kind of money you would get a door. Houses are so expensive over here

[@andrewmclaren858]

You’d get a piece is shit 1bed, 1 bath in jersey. Build in 1940.

[@Ryl33hz]

at 5:30 I took my van through that Tunnel last year and soon as we peaked the other side a gust of wind blew out my HVAC and dirt/grim went flying all over the van hahahahaha. I knew that road looked familiar!!!

[@InvestBetter.]

The Raptor's tires alone probably account for the MPG difference Both great vehicles and among the best vehicles you can get under $100k

[@samtunks8833]

Probably not they both weigh about the same the ford has to move around more weight with a smaller engine and the terrible aerodynamics of the raptor combined

[@FunkMasterJunk]

Man I LOVE TFL TRUCKS! Keep it up boys!

[@jacobdorp]

Anybody realize how hot that oil temp on the Durango was? 293F is pretty hot, so is the coolant temp at 239F, not sure if that 392 hemi can take more abuse but i don't like seeing my coolant temp over 210F. Doing some research conventional oil at 250F has 100% of its lubrication properties, but at 290F it drops down to 27%

[@Snipeyou1]

this was a good one guys.

[@jareimer4404]

What were the three temperatures on the raptor, oil, coolant and trans fluid?

[@svig7538]

Love this! Like all of your uploaded videos, can we get a tow up the ike gauntlet with the new Ford Explorer. I don’t think we’ve seen on yet?!???

[@thudtheace]

The difference in MPG besides weight and tires (of the Raptor), it is also due to the use of turbos, stuffing more air into the engine requires more fuel. Cheers!

[@danielcurtin7616]

Everyone commenting about the raptors fuel economy. There’s no free lunch in physics, turbos basically allow the engine to simulate displacement under load but when you cram in more air you also have to burn more fuel. It’s eco-boost, you can get eco if you stay off the throttle, or you can hammer it and get boost.

[@parisbrown5963]

I !love this can u do more of these pleas

[@LlyleHunter]

I did enjoy that!

[@poobank]

Oil pressure seems to be ok at 293 degrees oil temp. That's good. Would love more temp data in the future.

[@AgentSmith911]

Ike Gauntlet ♡

[@AWDfreak]

I don't consider a CUV such as the current Durango a truck, especially considering it's now on a unibody platform. I won't let that take away from its capabilities, but the current Dodge Durango has no place on TFLtruck, the same that a Honda Ridgeline doesn't belong on this channel. However, regardless of that, I enjoyed the video. These interesting mashups are what bring users like me to continue watching your videos.

[@Weak_juan]

In addition to higher curb weight, beefier tires, I'm betting the TT V6 used more fuel because the injectors are programmed to squirt more fuel to keep the combustion chamber cooler during a gruel test like the ike.

[@jakes5530]

if you think about it, the two kinda do compete. Both are 70k, both are meant to be "fun toys" that can still haul your family, and both arent designed specifically for work but can tow 8000 pounds. Id cross-shop the two if I had that kinda money.

[@lapamful]

Seen it before in other car tests, the more powerful car gets better mpg when you actually drive the two cars in question in the same way. The problem is when you have a more powerful vehicle and you're not testing it directly with another less powerful vehicle, you tend to want to experience all that power. So you get less mpg.

[@letterpool]

To the guy who argued with me that a on the Jeep srt video saying it couldnt tow: hope you watched this video. Thx for coming out.

[@94B34]

Like the Datsun shirt.

[@nicholasprice7004]

When are you going to do a towing test with the Durango R/T with tow package and AWD? Would really love to see that. Considering in it's class tows the best at that price point. Not everyone has $70k to spend

[@here2456]

You Guy's are Awesome!!!!

[@tgtmkfamily107]

Love this video guys!

[@bigb59100]

god its amazing how people dont realize tires/ lift etc... a stock truck can get 20 mpg.. put a lift and 35-37's on it and youll be lucky to see 14. SO... that being said... everyone talking down on the raptor... if the durango was higher and had all terrains on it... you deffs wound not have seen 4.7 mpg lol Get it through your head

[@jordanfournier4366]

bigb59100 it’s EPA rated with all of the aforementioned in mind, so it’s real mileage is disappointing.

[@VQSeries]

Awesome video, I'm guessing raptor won due to turbos keeping power better in high altitude and broader/lower torque range intended for p/up truck/towing duty. Just a guess though, could be wrong.

[@darinschmidt6456]

Can you guys please do this test with the 5th gen 4runner!

[@00Marez00]

I tow a 5700lbs boat with my v6 durango gt awd with a proper tow configuration. Does surprisingly well, not the fastest, but definitely does it better than alot of half tons we have hooked up that boat to.

[@seanmuehlhauser9612]

Isn't the max towing 5000lbs for the v6😬

[@00Marez00]

@@seanmuehlhauser9612 it's actually 6200lbs.

[@seanmuehlhauser9612]

@@00Marez00 is that what the owners manual says or is that what the hitch says? My girl is kicking around the idea of buying a V6 in the next few days. We would do a V8 but everyone so far has had some issues.

[@00Marez00]

@@seanmuehlhauser9612 that is the owners manual. The tow package comes with an upgraded transmission oil cooler, to keep the transmission running smooth. It tows really well. We have had it for 2 years with no issues at all.

[@PatrickRich]

Thanks for showing temps, i was wondering about that on the srt. 239 seems really hot, wouldnt want to do that a lot

[@MrTxblksteel]

I would assume axle ratio played a lot in the mileage department on top of the raptor having bigger tires, wider and less aerodynamic. Both did great though but the mileage difference should be obvious.

[@fread51]

I fell like you can do more with that Raptor

[@danielc5205]

When a manufacture determines said tow ratings, is that at sea level on flat ground? Or, is it at high elevation going up a 7% grade? For me, towing at high elevation up a grade would change the said tow ratings of any vehicle.

[@kevinlesperance1091]

"Eco"boost lol

[@shephardmapungwana3718]

Right?😂😂😂

[@AngelGonzalez-hf1js]

No the srt is faster

[@seanbooth845]

Could you guys dive deeper into what exactly makes the raptor motor a high output? Seems like you could achieve these numbers by some simple had held tuners. I'm sure Ford put some goodies in side that motor but what exactly are they?

[@DaTKify]

Love the comparison good work!

[@cwoolfork5974]

I like them both! Great video!

[@kentuckyhillbilly7240]

NICE VIDEO

[@adammorrell6280]

Why don't you do accelation towing tests as well as the ike gauntlet. Of course any vehicle will be around the 8 minute mark because you are going to same speed all the way up no matter the vehicle. It does give you a good sense of mpg and rpms as you climb but the time is kind of irrelevant.

[@nonrevhogan8938]

I heard you say that you manually shifted down to not brake as much. The point of other trucks were to see how the transmission handled the downhill.Ok know this was for fun. But maybe a suggestion because when you used the manual shift down one the transmission handled the downhill well, off brakes etc. I was wondering how the difference would have been on the F250 and Chevy if a manual shift would have happened and see how the trans RPM’s handled the hill. They were both 10 I think. So if a truck had to brake 5 times then you would manually shift down and see how it handled. So in the same test we would already know that its has to brake a lot, so more than 5 is already not great. But then we could see how it would handle with a manual shift , which is what we would have to do anyways..... Ok suggestion done...... I was always curious to see how it handled if that would have happened. Thanks, keep up the great videos!!!!

[@kirkenstang]

NonRev they only manual downshift when it’s a Super Ike test like this one.

[@nonrevhogan8938]

joe blow My memory might be going but I thought that was the super Ike when they did the F250 and Chevy. They had hit 10 brakes. Maybe my memory is fading. I’ll have to look back. Not that Diesel one. That grade shifted great. The 6.2 one. After it broke down on first attempt...........Watched again so last edit...Ha . Kent said this is the Super Ike HD. One against the Ram 2500. Actually did 12 brake applications... same as Ram. They did not manual brake..... Like to have seen how the 6.2 handled if a manual shift would have happened. Maybe make the second half of downhill more interesting. Thanks.

[@tritchie6272]

Interesting! If memory serves the Durango is unibody. If so I wouldn't expect it to handle that kind of weight so well. Both apparently had plenty of power.

[@larryjackson7701]

Should do one with the Shelby F-150

[@cekdaralibaba4897]

I love the channel thank you so much guys

[@dylanrittenhouse6090]

the mpg difference is most likely because of the turbos vs a super charger. The super charger adds more low end power making, great for fuel use while towing. Turbos add more high end power. So they burn more fuel at lower speeds, while producing a better acceleration at higher speeds. This affect also raises top speed.

[@MarcMonson]

its not supercharged...

[@dylanrittenhouse6090]

ya i realized that after the fact. thought it was the same engine they put in the jeep cherokee tomahawk

[@2003evodave]

Dylan Rittenhouse what?....turbos DO give more low end power more efficiently than superchargers especially twin turbos. Modern variable blade turbos are also great at widening the Power band of an engine. FYI- superchargers take power from a engine to run them VS turbos have zero parasitic energy drain so are more efficient. The negative of turbos is the engine bay space they need.

[@dchawk81]

Of course it's not porpoising or squirrelly, Nathan. You've got a weight distributing hitch on there. That just means you installed it correctly.

[@julianbxpe7863]

Do one with the raptor vs the tacoma

[@Baph0met666]

Why drive the Durango in manual mode? Should of kept it in automatic I own a 2015 Durango and unlike my BMW they don't up or down shift when needed you need to manually shift to the next gear I've noticed that if going up hills by having it in manual mode it slows it down if not shifting properly re-do the test and you will see a time and fuel difference.

[@revampted]

that srt is a beast

[@NatureRecycleFlorida]

great footage

[@xz23e]

You should do a Toyota tundra up cliffhanger 2.0!

[@MorganPierce75]

Great video, thank you. For those not able to get the SRT, would you be willing to do the same or similar Ike Gauntlet for the GT/RT/or Citadel trim lines of the Durango?

[@Phos9]

I suspect that coolant temp isn’t high, it’s honest. Most coolant temp gauges are just idiot lights masquerading as gauges, they’re going to just sit in the middle under normal conditions.

[@ReyDeLasFierasCrocodine]

Does Ram-TRX stands for T. rex? Badder and Better than Raptor?

[@kingdaniel3519]

Okay, this channel is great, it's my favorite on youtube and Ford is the best truck, period. However, comparing EVERYTHING to the Raptor is starting to wear thin, guys. Come on, ya'll couldn't've got your hands on an EcoBoost Explorer or something?

[@k.r.v.4219]

Hey the 30% increase in mileage correlates to the increase in displacement! As the bigger engine works less! Sure tires make a difference, but so do twin turbos. Everything in the outcome of numbers bring only one thing out, demand on the engine. One is a high strung smaller engine, tuned about as high as you can. The other a big displacement that is also high tuned, but not with forced induction. So cylinder pressures are not as great in the bigger engine!

[@mmholling87]

We must have watched a different video. The Ecoboost V6 was running less rpms than the V8 at anytime during the video.

[@garbage854]

Cool test :)

[@jdouglas7516]

Why did you only tow 7000lbs when it can tow 8700?

[@_valve]

0:16 Andre was shook😂

[@jimdelucia9127]

Loved it.