FORD v HOLDEN: FPV F6 TURBO BARRA vs HSV GTS LSA SUPERCHARGED

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Clay Wong

Clay Wong

Күн бұрын

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@kineticones
@kineticones 7 ай бұрын
As a ricer enthusiast it saddens me to my core to know that this country will never produce cars like these again. Dollar to pound ratio the commodores & falcons are simply amazing! They're something to be proud about, reliable and can handle power upgrades
@BT_life2
@BT_life2 6 ай бұрын
Shut up. You’re clueless.
@georgehorvath1824
@georgehorvath1824 5 ай бұрын
Totally, I damn near cried when our dumb ass government wouldn’t subsidise the car manufacturers. We have ass 🕳️ ‘s running the country and even worse now
@Samsgarden
@Samsgarden 4 ай бұрын
Yeah but imagine how fewer bogans are on our roads.
@WayneKerr69420
@WayneKerr69420 2 ай бұрын
@@Samsgarden the number is still the same. they just moved from commodores and falcons to utes like the ford rangers and 79 cruisers.
@TonySopranosBurner
@TonySopranosBurner 7 ай бұрын
The guy in the merc would’ve been fkn burning after showing off like that, just to get chopped😂😂
@qizza7142
@qizza7142 7 ай бұрын
@@dashbel506😂
@toptier613
@toptier613 6 ай бұрын
@@dashbel506 Correct - AMGs are fast but 1200hp vs a tuned a45, c63 no chance - It'd keep up for a bit - To be equal to one of these beasts you'd have to go stage 2 on the 45 and 63 ( quartermile ) The e63s however would gas these both stage 1 and would put a bus on them with stage 3
@KingOfForest22
@KingOfForest22 6 ай бұрын
@@dashbel506 no one cares about 0-100 for a 1200hp car, a $60k MG EV can do 0-100 in 3.8s. Top-end is what matters on track and that merc's engine is too weak to make big power.
@paulmihaere8270
@paulmihaere8270 6 ай бұрын
@@dashbel506 true but you'd think for the price of the Merc it would still chop it , both Awesome cars
@RonnieFoden-yi4rh
@RonnieFoden-yi4rh 6 ай бұрын
@@toptier613e63 gapping this gts and f6? 😂😂😭
@Tom-yl9zb
@Tom-yl9zb 7 ай бұрын
Leanne is an absolute goat ripping that F6.
@ClayWong
@ClayWong 7 ай бұрын
She’s an absolute weapon!🔥
@ben4026
@ben4026 7 ай бұрын
F6 every day
@Ronny-s7n
@Ronny-s7n 7 ай бұрын
She needs to learn how to change gears manually not leave it in auto.
@glennnugent351
@glennnugent351 7 ай бұрын
👍
@matteo_syd7271
@matteo_syd7271 29 күн бұрын
😂
@gregkerbage8739
@gregkerbage8739 7 ай бұрын
What a sick video. We had so much fun making it with Clay and Ahmed. Love your work Clay.
@ClayWong
@ClayWong 7 ай бұрын
Absolute blast working with you guys Greg! Thank you for the killer run mate❤️
@browncornberries324
@browncornberries324 5 ай бұрын
Nice car Greg
@-PORK-CHOP-
@-PORK-CHOP- 7 ай бұрын
I love how cool and calm Ahmed spoke, then you jump in the F6 to see a Mum and Daughter in the back, best episode.
@ahmetkiciman4154
@ahmetkiciman4154 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for reviewing our cars brother! Hopefully more content to come. Your a legend clay!!
@huseyinyildiz3083
@huseyinyildiz3083 7 ай бұрын
Well done Ahmet, killer ride my dude!! 🧿
@Hugh.G.Rection.
@Hugh.G.Rection. 7 ай бұрын
I’m not an Aussie car fan at all, but your machine is sick af and you seem super cool about it. Great build, fair play
@ahmetkiciman4154
@ahmetkiciman4154 7 ай бұрын
@@Hugh.G.Rection. thanks brother appreciate it
@cl3935
@cl3935 Ай бұрын
​@@ahmetkiciman4154 do you have a insta for the car bro?
@yousufnoori4439
@yousufnoori4439 7 ай бұрын
Bro I don't usually watch these videos but you're ones are unique, love the way you show the car and interact with the drivers, keep it going man, amazing stuff
@ClayWong
@ClayWong 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much brother! Appreciate you tuning in and for the kind words. Plenty more to come 🔥
@ahmetkiciman4154
@ahmetkiciman4154 7 ай бұрын
Sorry to dissapoint everyone, but we werent going to ‘street race’ and have it uploaded on youtube. We will be racing soon at either drags or roll racing soon. Will deffs record for you guys!
@gregkerbage8739
@gregkerbage8739 6 ай бұрын
See you at the track bro
@ahmetkiciman4154
@ahmetkiciman4154 6 ай бұрын
@@gregkerbage8739 il be there around 7-7:30
@mezame1626
@mezame1626 6 ай бұрын
Go the Ford 😅
@lion_blazer
@lion_blazer 5 ай бұрын
​@@ahmetkiciman4154 who won the street race
@JeffreyConner-t8t
@JeffreyConner-t8t Ай бұрын
My money is on the Holden
@marshallb6492
@marshallb6492 7 ай бұрын
I LOVE FPV F6 YOO THATS SOO SICK ON THE CHANNEL the screamer was so sick
@gregkerbage8739
@gregkerbage8739 6 ай бұрын
Thanks bud. It sounds so much better in person.
@X3R0NZ
@X3R0NZ 6 ай бұрын
Up the GTS. Its just a monster. With 427 cubes and a 2650 charger, you're gonna tree everyone. The fact that standard driveline and standard suspension will handle it speaks volumes too. Im also a little bit biased lol Huge, well deserved credit where it's due though, that FPV is is also an incredible machine. I have my preference, but i can easily appreciate it for what it is. Thanks to the owners and to Clay and team for sharing. Bloody good 👍
@bentodasilva5326
@bentodasilva5326 2 ай бұрын
Cheers for that. I couldn't stop watching without a massive smile on my face, bratha.
@lankylongman
@lankylongman 29 күн бұрын
Underrated comment. I'm still grinning
@numbvalley
@numbvalley 7 ай бұрын
Seen some Aussie cars, clicked the video 💁‍♂️
@ClayWong
@ClayWong 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed🙏
@h__adamm___
@h__adamm___ 6 ай бұрын
Simple as that😂
@thehifimaster5618
@thehifimaster5618 7 ай бұрын
Both superb cars, but it has to be the F6. Best 6 cylinder motor ever, and 100% home grown
@true191
@true191 6 ай бұрын
Not the best 6 cylinder there a echotech in the states running 4.1 qtr mile😂🤡
@8IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID
@8IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID 4 ай бұрын
best fucken motor in the universe stock barra allways shits on a modified ls's face
@thehifimaster5618
@thehifimaster5618 4 ай бұрын
@@true191 Cool, whats it like stock ?
@jackaustin3228
@jackaustin3228 4 ай бұрын
​@true191 at least barra can last tho😘😘😘
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 4 ай бұрын
@@true191 Top Fuel record over 1/4 mil was 4.4 mate, lol !!
7 ай бұрын
Those smiles and giggles... priceless. Nice footage, humble owner. Worthy KZbin upload.👌
@gpet23
@gpet23 2 ай бұрын
This is one drag I think every Holden and Ford fan is waiting to see
@paulmihaere8270
@paulmihaere8270 7 ай бұрын
Both crazy cars , gotta love both Aussie muscle legends Well done to both owners
@anish-79
@anish-79 7 ай бұрын
Both Great Cars. I'm FORD guy so F6.
@andrewsots
@andrewsots 7 ай бұрын
They are both awesome, Australia's finest !
@Sydney_LS_Owners_Club
@Sydney_LS_Owners_Club 7 ай бұрын
Two monsters of Sydney ! Another great video, Clay. Keep them coming and thank you for featuring one of our cars. The family that owns the FPV are so delightful. Love the passion and the PSICO !
@Jeep_van
@Jeep_van 7 ай бұрын
Dude there slow next to Sydney gtrs and supras.end of that story 😂
@sticktothefacts8905
@sticktothefacts8905 6 ай бұрын
@@Jeep_van How is this comment relevant to the OP's? 🤡
@Jeep_van
@Jeep_van 6 ай бұрын
@@sticktothefacts8905 dude if there is ever 2 over hyped cars is the commodore and the falcon...in Mexico I have rolled up on that many commodores and Falcons.there that slow I don't waist my time anymore.from the traffic lights both would give you a go.from a roll.there both getting bus length gapped...when your talking family barges they might be fast...heaps of stuff these days.would embarres both of them.thats just facts.
@sticktothefacts8905
@sticktothefacts8905 6 ай бұрын
@@Jeep_van re-read the OP's comment. There was never a mention those were the 2 greatest cars in Sydney. It never said they were better than anyone. It simply called them 2 monsters of Sydney. Why you felt like you needed to put them down is beyond me, but I hope it made your teeny weeny peeny hard
@johnyoud3760
@johnyoud3760 6 ай бұрын
@@Jeep_van 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Imagine misspelling embarrass, how embarrassing
@Jonah.MR1stW
@Jonah.MR1stW Ай бұрын
14:20 t0 15:50 is the best part of this video. Love how it just eats the AMG🫡
@VicMackey-v1s
@VicMackey-v1s 7 ай бұрын
The perma-grin on Ahmed's face is gold. Seems like he really enjoys that ride. Good for him.
@jimclarke1108
@jimclarke1108 7 ай бұрын
Both great cars, can't go past a worked 7.0L GTS🏴‍☠
@TheMasterMoto
@TheMasterMoto 6 ай бұрын
15:25, this has the be one of the best things about having power and knowing it. Also all these guys seem to know where the speed cameras are!,, Absolute beasts
@robism13
@robism13 7 ай бұрын
GTS FTW baby!!!!! Awesome content Clay, loving these video’s Clay 💪
@TheShadiboy1
@TheShadiboy1 7 ай бұрын
Sorry but Ford Mustang GT500 shelby FTW and king of V8s
@Gengargamer2_
@Gengargamer2_ 7 ай бұрын
​​@@TheShadiboy1Comparing a car that came out in 2020 to a car that came out in 2013, right...... And not to mention, it costs twice as much.
@JohnWinzil
@JohnWinzil 2 ай бұрын
In your dreams little boy 😂​@@TheShadiboy1
@DavidN1975
@DavidN1975 7 ай бұрын
To hard to choose, both insane I'd have to have both 👌😆
@ChilledWombillyWombat
@ChilledWombillyWombat 7 ай бұрын
oh my that hsv,give me that F6 though,barra for life
@Gshock25able
@Gshock25able 6 ай бұрын
holden 😂
@SalimAbdallah-ek7jq
@SalimAbdallah-ek7jq 17 күн бұрын
Same , it's Australian.
@Deatomizer
@Deatomizer 7 ай бұрын
Barra takes the cake thank you
@haidar369
@haidar369 7 ай бұрын
What a crazy F6! Hands down, probably the best female driver in a high-performance vehicle. Leanne drove it like she stole it! PSICO
@vsboy2577
@vsboy2577 7 ай бұрын
The Holden chassis is incredible. So stable to keep up with the precision of that power cruiser Mercedes AMG .
@Dan-rg7jj
@Dan-rg7jj 7 ай бұрын
Chassis has little to do with it and it's apples for apples in terms of most modern sedans. You can make a lot of cars dart in and out like that have stable steering with the right sway control and camber/toe.
@victorpeirce4753
@victorpeirce4753 7 ай бұрын
@vsboy2577 Sorry to disappoint you matey, but Commodores don't have a 'Chassis' they have a Subframe.💯%😂
@vsboy2577
@vsboy2577 6 ай бұрын
@@victorpeirce4753 Comfort-oriented FE1 (Evoke, Calais and Caprice), sporting FE2, which adds firmer dampers and quicker electric steering for the SV6, SS and SS V, and track-tuned FE3 for the SS V Redline that has a reduced roll angle, larger bore struts, bigger stabiliser bars and wider rear tyres.
@petecotter6790
@petecotter6790 6 ай бұрын
​@victorpeirce4753 referring to the 'chassis' is more of a industry understanding of the suspension / body dynamics. Barely any 4 door sedans have a full chassis btw
@CoyoteAUS
@CoyoteAUS 7 ай бұрын
Love the GTS. Just saw a YT video of a drag chevy SS (vf SS here) in the US getting 10speed auto swapped. That would be awesome on this.
@brokearse2011
@brokearse2011 7 ай бұрын
Im a ford man at heart but you jst cant beat the sound of a v8 unfortunately
@ahmetkiciman4154
@ahmetkiciman4154 7 ай бұрын
To all that commenting wanting both cars to race. Hopefully we will tee it up and race at roll racing or the drags. Wouldve been redhot to post a street race on youtube.
@Ronny-s7n
@Ronny-s7n 7 ай бұрын
Brother you’d eat that f6 without a doubt.
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 4 ай бұрын
@@Ronny-s7n 4L vs 7L, it shouldn't be even a doubt....but it is the worlds most powerful taxi engine !!
@gpet23
@gpet23 2 ай бұрын
Mate when’s the race going to happen?
@alexandros-r2u
@alexandros-r2u 26 күн бұрын
Never
@gpet23
@gpet23 26 күн бұрын
@@alexandros-r2u 😶‍🌫️
@nzrealest8549
@nzrealest8549 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video bro hahah had me smiling the whole vid 😂 nothing like cars aye 💨😎
@OBS-Jay
@OBS-Jay 7 ай бұрын
F6 was sick
@Mac-zl4po
@Mac-zl4po 7 ай бұрын
Go Clay. Best content
@ClayWong
@ClayWong 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much legend☺️
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 6 ай бұрын
My mullet grew 2 inches watching this.
@alexandros-r2u
@alexandros-r2u 26 күн бұрын
As did my wang
@van14590w
@van14590w 7 ай бұрын
Fark GTS playing with that Mercedes
@ClayWong
@ClayWong 7 ай бұрын
Destroyed the AMG hard😂🔥
@johnsmith-mk3zq
@johnsmith-mk3zq 7 ай бұрын
@@ClayWong was only a glc by looks of it A modded e63s would smoke the holden
@troyvlody1365
@troyvlody1365 7 ай бұрын
​@@johnsmith-mk3zq😂😂😂
@ryno1808
@ryno1808 7 ай бұрын
​@@johnsmith-mk3zq😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Pia-ho9dm
@Pia-ho9dm 7 ай бұрын
​@@johnsmith-mk3zqgood for you
@MarkHayes-ky9je
@MarkHayes-ky9je 7 ай бұрын
Both cars are perfect, but there's something about an F6 that's irresistible
@gregkerbage8739
@gregkerbage8739 6 ай бұрын
I’m kinda partial to a tough F6 as well. LOL
@Whatsthisgonnado
@Whatsthisgonnado 6 ай бұрын
Keep up the great content. Come to Canada one day! Land of mischief!
@philnorbury9032
@philnorbury9032 7 ай бұрын
New to channel Clay love your interview style and energy.
@danrowlands3705
@danrowlands3705 6 ай бұрын
What a cool young kient... reminds me of Rufio from Hook 😂 Rufi...oooooohhh .... just got an energy bout him aye ... he dont know much about cars but he got the gift of the gab .... cool lil video hope to see more like this ...
@AaronRoche-fd3wx
@AaronRoche-fd3wx 2 ай бұрын
Bruv never stop this channel
@waynemoy5471
@waynemoy5471 Ай бұрын
Nice clip mate, Holden looked ok, but the FG for me any day.
@harleytle7395
@harleytle7395 6 ай бұрын
since really really long time, today I watched your vid and smile.
@DarrenMadden-dr2oh
@DarrenMadden-dr2oh 5 ай бұрын
Love both cars great video. Love it
@RICHYSUNCLE
@RICHYSUNCLE 7 ай бұрын
0:31 WHAT AM I LOOKING AT???😂
@ChilledWombillyWombat
@ChilledWombillyWombat 7 ай бұрын
youre the man clay,keep up the awesome content YEW
@chrisvarathan4198
@chrisvarathan4198 6 ай бұрын
Great show. That lady; so good 🎉
@bosstisubaru
@bosstisubaru 7 ай бұрын
Another banger clay lesssss goooo
@jibberjabber6919
@jibberjabber6919 7 ай бұрын
love both cars!
@willmcbeath1744
@willmcbeath1744 7 ай бұрын
20:45 that sound is just unreal
@Ante-n1i
@Ante-n1i 5 ай бұрын
Both cars are icons in Australia
@WINKERS76
@WINKERS76 7 ай бұрын
Great video CW. Thanks to the owners. Both cars frighteningly fast. Geed T had more sack behind the wheel than Leanne however she had her daughter in the car so that’s understandable. Who wins Clay? What’s your pick? 😉🇦🇺
@brycecobb282
@brycecobb282 6 ай бұрын
id have both but the aggression of that VF is POATAN scary
@JherkinTheGherkin
@JherkinTheGherkin 6 ай бұрын
That crisp dap at the start!
@nhraandnascarfanatic5907
@nhraandnascarfanatic5907 7 ай бұрын
A fella in my street, single bloke. Never married, never had kids etc (a little behind the 8ball in some ways I suspect) has wanted a gen-f GTS ever since they came out 10 years ago and swore he’d own 1 one day. Well that day came about 3 months ago after years of hard work and saving, took ownership of an absolutely spotless red 2015 model with all the goodies, only 40,000ks and 520kw for $90k (cheap for one of these things believe it or not). Only for some low life scum bag to break into his garage and knock it off while he was at work one night… it was devistating. These vehicles are becoming highly sought after and valuable… keep them safe, in good order, locked up and buy a big dog!
@Ban-pn9vx
@Ban-pn9vx 7 ай бұрын
GEEDTS what a car, just wow👀
@RussellCollins-c4g
@RussellCollins-c4g 5 ай бұрын
Love clays videos
@Colin-b2f
@Colin-b2f 5 ай бұрын
Love that Taxi drone
@shepardman993
@shepardman993 7 ай бұрын
Outstanding brother
@jimskliros6353
@jimskliros6353 6 ай бұрын
Both cars absolutely fantastic well done to the owners
@gregkerbage8739
@gregkerbage8739 6 ай бұрын
We only had PSICO on 22PSI. If it was up around the 35PSI mark then there would’ve been damage in the tunnel.
@BraydenAllan-ol4ee
@BraydenAllan-ol4ee 7 ай бұрын
That tire and rim combo on the vf is beautiful
@VE.SS.SHUUSH
@VE.SS.SHUUSH 7 ай бұрын
Commodore all day everyday
@ulmahrruk5015
@ulmahrruk5015 6 ай бұрын
Insane cars and great people, hell yeah!
@Ayks123
@Ayks123 6 ай бұрын
The security guard pulling up and the air time he received 😂
@oshlover
@oshlover 7 ай бұрын
Love Leanne, She's amazing. What a beast of a car. Stay safe. 💪🤘
@gregkerbage8739
@gregkerbage8739 6 ай бұрын
Yes she is amazing. Great driver as well
@leewood6843
@leewood6843 7 ай бұрын
always seeing PSICO around bankstown and wings and things, mad car.
@gregkerbage8739
@gregkerbage8739 6 ай бұрын
Yeah we go down there to the car wash and to wings and things for something to eat. ❤
@Dat_carguy27
@Dat_carguy27 Ай бұрын
@@gregkerbage8739just saw the car in lakemba looks sick bro 🔥🔥
@vichetkim5533
@vichetkim5533 7 ай бұрын
The F6 can handle an extra 300 hp and maintain it's home grown heritage.
@Barra.The.World.
@Barra.The.World. 7 ай бұрын
Dude, you are entirely wrong, Those Barra Motor / XR6T can get upto 2000hp
@vichetkim5533
@vichetkim5533 7 ай бұрын
@@Barra.The.World. I always followed the Ford philosophy to understate the horse power but over deliver it (This quite didn't work with the Windsor V8 Falcons according to Holden drivers). That's also the secret to Nissan GT-R's crazy success at Bathurst and international motorsport.
@PLAGUETHEREAPER
@PLAGUETHEREAPER 7 ай бұрын
@@Barra.The.World. didnt they just get one built in wa that was 3780hp ?
@qizza7142
@qizza7142 7 ай бұрын
@@vichetkim5533stop yapping shit
@nickj1663
@nickj1663 5 ай бұрын
F6 FTW! Respect to the GTS also.
@Sataneliteoneshots
@Sataneliteoneshots 6 ай бұрын
Both would be amazing, i just can't ignore the HSV purely on sound and style alone. 👌
@tomanycooks
@tomanycooks 5 ай бұрын
I'd be stoked with either
@sollydogg
@sollydogg 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video bro mean rides
@DamoMartin25
@DamoMartin25 6 ай бұрын
Two absolute monsters of cars. I'd happily have either but if I could only have one I'd go the F6.
@YaMarnis.
@YaMarnis. 7 ай бұрын
15:45 it was at this moment... buhahahaha
@kineticones
@kineticones 7 ай бұрын
The best moment so far on Clay's channel lmao
@RossReviewsau
@RossReviewsau 7 ай бұрын
Greg is a legend had the privilege of featuring that car last year in Sydney! unreal car!
@MD-qh8gg
@MD-qh8gg 4 ай бұрын
Both beautiful cars hands down.
@goz7569
@goz7569 6 ай бұрын
I’m sitting on the fence on this one 👊🏼😎👊🏼
@cronos1911
@cronos1911 7 ай бұрын
Awesome cars and drivers!
@jamiegreenwood7996
@jamiegreenwood7996 7 ай бұрын
being a ford man for over 40years my choice is defiantly the F6 killer sound and looks
@5150-w6d
@5150-w6d 6 ай бұрын
barra does not sound good mate
@jamiegreenwood7996
@jamiegreenwood7996 6 ай бұрын
@@5150-w6d everyone has their own opinion to me the Barra is king
@Spoonfed78
@Spoonfed78 7 ай бұрын
Great cars and builds. I miss my Turbo Taxi. No quite that power 😂, but decent enough and with LPG tags on the plate use to surprise (LPG setup right is the next best thing to E85)
@MrFACTZ12
@MrFACTZ12 6 ай бұрын
More of these vids bro der mad aye
@Ante-n1i
@Ante-n1i 5 ай бұрын
Sound so good
@andrewpattichis3819
@andrewpattichis3819 7 ай бұрын
The Holden is the best I also have a Holden
@SYLRMS
@SYLRMS 5 ай бұрын
ngl mint seeing the f6 go but he needed the old bloke to drive it and give it a proper gutfull
@glennnugent351
@glennnugent351 7 ай бұрын
F6 💪
@gregkerbage8739
@gregkerbage8739 6 ай бұрын
F6 rocks!
@joelholland8523
@joelholland8523 12 күн бұрын
Dreaming bro 😂 best call
@mattbell-hw7qp
@mattbell-hw7qp 6 ай бұрын
That gts is straight up evil 😈
@astrofrombne1123
@astrofrombne1123 6 ай бұрын
I’m a holden bloke myself but that fpv is mint as.
@abshassan
@abshassan 7 ай бұрын
@15:44 hahaha Malaka got smoked, love it.
@76cruiserAustralia
@76cruiserAustralia 6 ай бұрын
Hell yeah I love both
@maximumnoise78
@maximumnoise78 Ай бұрын
That gts sounded amazing.
@MrJaredbbr
@MrJaredbbr 7 ай бұрын
Armet looks like the eshay final boss 😆
@eezee187
@eezee187 6 ай бұрын
That VF is MINT brah!! 🔥🔥🔥
@RICHYSUNCLE
@RICHYSUNCLE 7 ай бұрын
14:37 I love people like this 😂
@HorrorcoreXLGaming
@HorrorcoreXLGaming 6 ай бұрын
This channel is 🔥🇦🇺🤙
@SirAMG63
@SirAMG63 5 ай бұрын
The GTS and GLC 63S going at it was gold 😂
@sinbad4507
@sinbad4507 28 күн бұрын
I'm a Holden guy, the interior of the VFs is far superior than the fords, but there is no denying how good the Barra motors are. Both cars are a testament to Aussie automotive ingenuity
@T.N101.
@T.N101. 7 ай бұрын
Barratheworld.
@MrJpilcher
@MrJpilcher 7 ай бұрын
They are both cool I'm a ford guy but both look like fun. Personally I like driving low powered light weight car on windy roads or down mountains because you need to grab it by the scruff of the neck and wring everything out of it. Its more enjoyable tipping a car into a corner at 160km to 180km using all the grip of all 4 tyres.
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